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#41
Just read this article from the Joe.ie website and thought it was worth putting up here to discuss.
With more and more players leaving GAA for other sports and going travelling and not showing the commitment that their fathers or uncles might have done before them, this article looks at some of the issues.
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I remember making a joke in the changing rooms a few years back after a game we had lost.
The manager - the player/manager at the time - slammed his boots to the floor in pure outrage. He stood up and ordered everyone out of the showers. We were all forced to stop what we were doing and told to sit down like a bunch of school children.

"Boys aren't f**king hurting enough," he roared, before detailing what a week of a loss should actually consist of.

After the game, after the warm-down, after the debrief, he was furious that someone was no longer hanging his head in shame and that people were daring to move on with their lives. He was furious that someone was trying to take any enjoyment from the rest of his day. He wasn't going to accept a player with the absolute affront to have any kind of a life outside of club intermediate league football.

We lost that game, you see. What on earth could anybody be smiling or joking about?

What has happened to GAA clubs?
What has happened to the Gaelic culture?

When did it become this vacuum of fun? When did it get so lifeless? Since when was a game of football on a Sunday allowed to dictate how you would feel and behave for the rest of the week?

There used to be a time when you could play hard, leave it on the field, and carry on with your life afterwards. Win or lose. There used to be a time you could be proud of your effort. You were allowed to be. That genuinely used to happen.

You could give it a rattle, empty the tank, and feel some sort of fulfillment regardless of the result.

Now, if you lose a match, if you nearly lose a match, you're given a week's penance. The next training session - instead of just working on what you should actually work on and getting on with playing football - has become a verbal execution. It's a deliberate tactic of some managers to actively make sure you take next to no pleasure out of those sessions after a loss - otherwise they'd think they're doing something wrong.

'We'll see how much you're f**king enjoying yourself now. Why don't you make a joke now?' That sort of thing.


All the while, morale is decreasing, resentment is rising, and people are running away from the game and from their clubs quicker than players are being dragged from the showers for another dressing down.

And it isn't an attack at the training volumes or the increasing professionalism. It's a common misconception that players are working too hard, that teams are trying too hard to win. That's fine. That's healthy. Why wouldn't they? That's human nature to want to better yourself and you'd often find that people who step away from the game end up pursuing another activity if for nothing else but to fill the competitive void left in the their lives.

Some people run marathons. Plenty of people train harder than an average club player and they do it in their own time, for their own pleasure.

But the fact that the games of football and hurling have stepped up, tactics-wise, conditioning-wise, effort-wise is a good thing. That is not the issue.

Some people want to win. Finding that passion and drive is one of the best things you can do in this life.


There's something pure about bringing yourself to the very limits of what you thought was capable. But there's also something very dangerous about bringing yourself to the very limits of your mental well-being.

And the fact that you're seemingly not allowed to take any enjoyment out of the game anymore is worrying. Fire is good until it starts burning down everything else in your life.

I used to come home from games to a concerned mother tip-toeing around, building up to a simple, "how'd you do?" If we lost, I'd just sharply cut her off and say, "No." And then I'd walk out of the room. It wouldn't be discussed and I wouldn't be spoken to for hours.

This was the best thing in my life. This was where all my best friends were. It's where I grew up and spent every single day of the week and I refused to even speak two words about it at home. Literally.

I got whipped off in the first half of a championship final before and convinced myself that night that I was finished. I had quit. I had enough of it. It had worn me down - the mental effort. But I took the winter off and got over myself. I realised that the sun was still coming up, the world was still turning and I realised that there were more important things going on outside of this depressing world of about 89 people. All of whom started off happy.

Young Roscommon players await to play in the half-time games 20/5/2012

You don't realise that though when you're right in the thick of this new pseudo perfectionist culture.

And it has gotten worse and worse. Now there are young lads just quitting and it's not because they don't want to train twice a week or because they don't like being in good shape and it's certainly not because they don't like playing matches.

It's because it is unforgivably all-consuming.

It's the mentality of it all.

It's because they're told to be thinking about games for every minute of every day. They're being sent text messages by the hour. They're being told not to go out, not to eat shite, no more holidays and no more joking in the changing rooms. Then they're reminded of all that again.

They're being told how to live outside of the club. Get out of work earlier. Eat better. Reminded to drink water, no talking to the media and how every single game every single Sunday is the most important game of their lives.

WhatsApp groups are forming, pep talks are non-stop. Players have to tell 40 other lads that they won't be at training and never is even one of them let away with it.

Managers are demanding more and more commitment, more and more focus - not for the players to do well, but so that the managers can do well. They don't trust the team to just go out and do it without being hounded for a week into doing it.
At the end of it all, three teams in the whole county win a championship. The rest of them fail. Most of them fail. And all that roaring, all that shouting and arguing and 10 months of being told you're doing it wrong wasn't worth it. That total focus and playing the part of the dutiful foot soldier wasn't worth it. You start to wonder is any of it worth it.

Donegal broke the barrier four years ago with sheer work-rate and commitment and, because of that, club teams are now being told to keep pace with them for some unjustified reason. If Donegal can do it, we can do it. Never mind the funding, the pool, the fact that it was inter-county level.

Jim McGuinness set a blueprint that inspired a nation with how he dragged the men from the hills from nowhere but his complete control over every facet of those players' lifestyles has also seeped down to club level where it's now at a stage where implementing those demands and that attitude on a team has become an easy strategy for a manager to show he's putting his stamp on things. Implementing those demands and that attitude on a team has just become the first port of call.

What has happened is that losing a game of football has become the worst possible thing imaginable where a club-wide state of mourning is enforced on a weekly basis. Managers are getting even more involved, players are told to double their sacrifices, the text messages keep coming and the pressure continues to mount.

Then you have club games postponed and rescheduled and postponed and rescheduled and, all the while, a group of young men are being pent up preparing and waiting and shitting themselves with the anticipation but D-Day draws no closer.
What happens then is that players just give up because they're getting no enjoyment out of the game anymore - they're not allowed to. They feel like they've committed a crime because one Sunday didn't go their way and younger fellas see this culture of doom that's headed right in their direction so they start actively looking for ways they can escape before they're even a part of it.
There are players around the world in different destinations who actually plan their trips home so they won't be roped into rejoining the team when they return.
People are genuinely running and hiding from the mental commitment that's now obligatory to be a club player.
And why wouldn't they?
It's been a long time since a young man on a senior team did something because he wanted to do it.
It's been a long time since playing hard was enough.
It's been a long time since someone cracked a joke in the changing rooms after a defeat.
Jesus, it wasn't even that funny.

#42
I just read this article in the Irish News which talks about an interview with Michael Lyster.
They mention building a bridge between RTE and Mickey Harte but Mickey is not interested.
Also talks about Brolly being a lose cannon and his horrible comments about Marty Morrissey and Cavan football.

There are some video extracts in the article below
http://www.irishnews.com/news/2016/04/08/news/rte-sports-anchor-michael-lyster-speaks-about-tyrone-manager-mickey-harte-s-dispute-with-rte-478120/
#43
I read this story today in the Irish Times but just realized it happen last June.
Does it normally take that long for it to be heard?
Seems unreal how much fuss the guy caused just cos he seemed to be a bit crazy about not getting his way.

Was also wondering when they say they had to dump all that fuel so they can land safely I presume, do they just dump it in the sea or where?

An American man accused of endangering the safety of a transatlantic flight chased a flight attendant up the aisle after she refused to serve him cheese and crackers, a court has heard.
The head flight attendant on the United Airlines Boeing 777 claimed Jeremiah Mathis Thede was "agitated" and demanded to know the name of the colleague who had not given him the snacks.
Sheila Wire, the purser in charge of the flight crew, said later in the flight Mr Thede also allegedly threatened a fellow passenger who had told her Mr Thede had placed a potential "trip hazard" - a discarded food tray - in the path of attendants walking backwards down the aisle.
The airliner, carrying 264 passengers, was en route from Rome to Chicago on June 20th last year when the captain made the decision to touch down at Belfast International Airport after concerns were raised about Mr Thede's behaviour by cabin crew and other passengers.
Mr Thede (42), a Californian, denies a charge of endangering an aircraft or persons in the aircraft.
Ms Wire, who has 43 years' service with United, was the first witness called as the trial began at Antrim Crown Court.
She told the court how she had to brief four other male passengers to prepare themselves in case Mr Thede had to be physically subdued.
In the event, police officers removed him from the flight when it touched down in Northern Ireland.
Ms Wire described how she was first alerted to a problem in the economy section between 30 and 45 minutes into the flight.
Rushing towards her
She said she arrived to see attendant Lisa Hall rushing toward her, with Mr Thede following her.
"I just saw this look on her face, she was stunned," said Ms Wire.
Ms Wire said Mr Thede, from Berkeley, had a pad and pen in his hands and was repeatedly saying "I want her name."
After directing Ms Hall to go to the cockpit, Ms Wire said she tried to establish what had happened from Mr Thede.
"He responded that he went to the back, he wanted cheese and crackers, and 'that lady wouldn't give them to me'," she told the judge.
"I stood there waiting for more information but it was just that - that was really the basis of what was happening at that minute.
"I remember standing there taking a very deep breath and I remember in my mind thinking 'This is over cheese and crackers?'."
Mr Thede, dressed in a light grey suit and white shirt, sat in the dock listening as the purser gave evidence to the jury. He has been on bail in Northern Ireland awaiting trial since last June.
Ms Wire claimed that at other points in the flight, Mr Thede was getting up and down from his seat and opening and shutting the overhead bins when the seatbelt signs were on, and refused to sit down when warned.
Numerous complaints
She said his behaviour prompted numerous complaints from other passengers.
"One said, 'What is United Airlines doing to ensure my family and I are safe?'," she said.
"I remember that as a direct quote."
Ms Wire said she warned Mr Thede that the flight might have to be diverted if his behaviour continued.
"He looked at me and said 'Are you done yet?'," she told the court.
It has been claimed the plane had to dump thousands of litres of fuel before making the unscheduled stop.
As the crew would have exceeded their legal flying hours if the aircraft had resumed the journey straight away, the passengers were forced to wait almost 24 hours before the plane could take off again, with many having to sleep on the terminal floor.
The trial continues.

You would imagine nowadays they would have better ways to deal with this sort of stuff.

The telegraph in the UK ran this version of the story last year
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/aviation/11691641/Airline-passengers-erratic-behaviour-and-demand-for-nuts-caused-flight-diversion.html
#44
GAA Discussion / Conor McKenna - Essendon FC Mate
February 24, 2016, 04:09:23 PM
I was chatting to a few people about Conor McKenna the other evening and I wondered how was he getting on.
Interesting watching a few of these videos what type of training they do and how they kick the ball differently.
Will be interesting to see does he come back in a few years a better player or will he stay there long term.

http://www.the42.ie/conor-mckenna-afl-melbourne-2292664-Aug2015/
At the end of that first video if you click on the top right video you get to see him a lot more in a training game.

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/player-profile/conor-mckenna

How would people say Marty Clarke did in Aus and when they come home are they a very different animal?
#45
Great win for Galway yesterday with what I believe was a rather inexperienced lineup

Tyrone struggled a lot to break down a very defensive Cavan team but played in terrible conditions I wasn't so worried about the performance.
Hopefully its a dry day anyway and a few of us are going down to Galway the night before from Dublin for the craic.

We used to have some amazing games in the league back in the mid noughties against Galway and Kerry with high scoring and some good draws.
#46
With 2016 having so many Tyrone v Derry matches lined up it reminded me of the rivalry between the two clubs back in the nineties and that epic game in 1995 which Mugsy admitted on TSG its his favourite ever GAA moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cEc9kyQoGg

There were some rough & dirty matches with a lot of teams trying their hardest to take Canavan out of the equation.
I was lucky enough to watch PTG in his prime and how he used to waltz around teams single-handedly.

Then Armagh became our new biggest rivals in the noughties as they dominated Ulster for most of that decade.
In my totally impartial eyes I always considered Armagh the most physical and dirtiest team in Ulster if not in the country but then as I got older I saw others saw Tyrone as no angles either. My earliest memories of Tyrone was in Omagh v Armagh with the Grimleys playing and players being punched even before the ball was thrown in.

So I thought with the board being so quiet lately I wondered how would most people answer this question.
We all know the last few years the bad reputation Tyrone have built up with Tiernan McCann adding another bow to the equation after the Sean Cavanagh tackle and Brolly's outburst.

No doubt Tyrone and Armagh fans will have loads to say (most said before) but I am curious how others see us and other counties like Donegal & Monaghan in recent years.
Feel free to post the odd interesting picture.


#47
GAA Discussion / Who was the Blue Panther
October 24, 2015, 01:21:40 AM
Who was the Blue Panther?
#48
https://www.facebook.com/groups/GAATicketExchange/

The scramble for tickets at Croke park last Sunday for the Dublin v Mayo match got me thinking how can we get genuine GAA fans into a social network where they can sell, buy and swap tickets safely without paying over the odds prices to touts. I know we already have toutless.com but anyone can join this group and then if you have a ticket to sell or swap you can advertise it here and then use private message with other members looking for tickets to say where you are and how much you want for the ticket. A lot of people at every match end up going into the stadium with spare tickets in their pocket that they couldn't get rid of. When selling tickets you have to make a judgement call of course is this person going to the game themselves or going to sell the ticket on for profit.

So I've set up this group but not really sure what is the best way to manage it.
My initial idea was that people with tickets to sell will stick up a new thread by clicking on sell something and then say how many tickets, where they're for and the price. FACE VALUE ONLY otherwise I will delete it.

Does anyone have any ideas how to manage this better or can I split it into match by match threads in some way?

Any other views or advice will be well received.
#49

I'm the treasurer of the Tyrone Assoc Dublin and we are running an event in St Vincents GAA Club on Sat 19th Sept to raise some funds for one of our members who has stage 4 cancer.
http://gogetfunding.com/hugh-mccanns-treatment-fund/

We have an interesting night of craic agus ceol planned with special guests including Brian Mullins, John O'Leary, Art McCrory, Eugene McKenna, Seamus McCallan, Pascal Canavan & MC Noel McGinn from teamtalkmag.com (1986 AI final team) to discuss the 1995 season as its 20 years ago this year.

Brian Mullins was the Derry manager that year and he lost his hat in a funny incident with gentle giant Finbarr McConnell during the rather heated Derry v Tyrone game in which Tyrone won with 13 men.


We have 2 AI final hurling tickets for lower Cusack section 303 (covered) and we want to swap them for 2 football tickets.
Anyone interested please PM me. I live in Dublin and can meet you this week.
PLEASE DON'T ASK ME TO SELL THESE TICKETS. SWAP ONLY
#50
Was some controversial posted or did RTE step in?
#51
A friend of mine has got the ten year deal where he gets 2 AI final tickets each year both for hurling and football.
They are up for renewal and he says they are looking for over €3,500 for each ticket for the 10 years so to renew it he would have to pay €7000 for the 10 years lower Cusack section.

Does this sound really high or is he missing something?
How much is a normal ticket for the Cusack on AI final day?

Does any of ye have this deal?
#52
I heard Lyster say Galway play Donegal so we must get Mayo or Sligo then.

The draw has been very fair to us this year in fairness.
Is it likely to be double header with Galway & Donegal on one day as opposed to half empty stadium both days.
#53
A few of us were chatting recently about fellow ex pat Tyrone fans who would come back to Ireland for the weekend to maybe catch a match.
With Tyrone in the qualifiers on Saturday nights (hopefully more than one) we were wondering could we social network and arrange to meet up especially for away games and maybe book accommodation and pints etc.

If you are interested can you pm me or know others abroad who might be interested let me know their details.
#54
A few of us were chatting recently about fellow ex pat Tyrone fans who would come back to Ireland for the weekend to maybe catch a match.
With Tyrone in the qualifiers on Saturday nights (hopefully more than one) we were wondering could we social network and arrange to meet up especially for away games and maybe book accommodation and pints etc.

If you are interested can you pm me or know others abroad who might be interested let me know their details.
#55
Thank God we missed the other Ulster teams and I'd say Limerick will be a tough enough nut to crack
Good to get home advantage for a change to and it suits me as I'm up home that weekend.

Wonder how Mickey will approach this game? Will he throw in a smattering of U21's or play it safe with the Donegal starting 15.

Have we met before in the championship? 2007 League I see.
#56
Back home to fortress Omagh NOT! ::) against a top top team. I fear the worst. We always struggle against the rebels.
Hopefully that dropped point on Saturday doesn't send us down but one more win should be enough in a very tight league



At this stage of Cork's league campaign last season, Colm O'Neill's contribution amounted to two substitute appearances and five points.

It was consistent with Brian Cuthbert's kid gloves approach towards the player on his return from a third cruciate operation. O'Neill's summer was as much a story of frustration as he only had his first start against Sligo in the qualifiers.

Cuthbert recently defended his decision. "He's a very special player and I wanted to make sure he was going to be playing many more years for Cork and if I was to forsake three or four months of last season for that to happen I was happy out."

Truth be told, though it seemed O'Neill cut a disgruntled figure at times, he realised he wasn't ready to attack the season whole hog.

This year couldn't be much more different. He's started all four Division 1 games and scored 3-21, 0-17 from frees, coming off just once when the deed was done against Kerry.

The patience and work of both player and manager seem to be paying off

"Last year I got a season under my belt," said O'Neill. "This time last year I probably still wasn't 100%. I trained hard and got a good winter's prep under my belt and I've confidence in it. I'm still doing rehab with the physio."

"Cuthbert couldn't hide his delight for O'Neill after his latest star showing in Páirc Uí Rinn. "After three ACLs and he is able to come back out here and perform the way he does? It's remarkable, it's the character of the man. "He's a very special player and a very affable guy that everyone is mad about and every time he puts on a Cork jersey he just takes off."

The four long trips north haven't been too kind on his knee but Cork's decision to base themselves in Enniskillen the night before games has helped. It meant only a short bus spin to Ballyshannon on March 1 and it will be the same again when they face Tyrone in Omagh on Sunday. "We go up there on Saturday evening and have plenty of time to rest and recuperate and get ready. We'll be getting out the maps again to see what route we're taking but we're looking forward to a different kind of game. We're taking residence up there at this stage! It's a great challenge to go up to every stronghold in Ulster. There's always a huge crowd and it's a great place to learn about your team and your panel."


Cork are just two points worse off than this time last year when they went the first four games unbeaten on the way to topping Division 1. For a side expected to struggle and still with an uncertain midfield, it's impressive.

"You probably could say we're safe," remarked O'Neill, "but we're not looking at safety, really. We want to make the latter stages of the league. We know the championship's a long way away and having some competitive games at that time prepares you well for championship."

That the latest batch of points were taken from Kerry was satisfying but bragging rights are on hold. "We need no reminding of how we did last year. Similar to what happened (on Sunday), we beat Kerry comprehensively in Tralee and probably got a bit carried away and started believing what people were saying. We're happy with the two points but there's a lot of work still to do."
#57
GAA Discussion / Friday afternoon teaser
March 06, 2015, 03:20:18 PM
Who was the highest ever scorer in one match at intercounty level?
Please don't just guess but have a name, county,score and against who is possible.
#58

On March the 7th 2015 Tyrone make the painful trip back to Dublin to meet the AIG(Dubs) in their own backyard, sorry I mean GAA HQ.

With it being my birthday and us (www.tad.ie) planning a big night on the 6th at the Tyrone owned Lansdowne Hotel, I decided to get this thread started early to give ye all a bit of notice and to book a hotel.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/329662576095/

Noel McGinn and the TeamTalkMag.com team are coming down to stream the night live with us having Charlie Redmond as our star guest on the night to re-live that moment when he wasn't really sent off at all. Charlie has the real story that will put our minds all at rest so we can forgive the poor Dubs for this travesty once and for all and get back to hating Meath and Armagh.

By the way does anyone know Paddy Russell's email address?

Also found this little thread in my research. Where is the one on here?
http://www.hoganstand.com/Clare/MessagePage.aspx?PageNumber=0&TopicID=16827
#59
General discussion / Wii v Xbox for a seven year old Boy
December 12, 2014, 06:14:12 PM
Hi All

Sorry if that has been brought up before. I'll be surprised if it hasn't.
Our 6 year old got a wii last Christmas from Santa despite my thoughts he was too young. He's our eldest of 4. 1 girl.
He loves it and plays maro karts and skylanders a lot on it but has recently moved onto Minecraft on the android tablet

He's now asking for an Xbox and I'm telling the wife NO WAY HOSE A but as usual she's a big softie and he is a great wee kid.
I think he's too young for it and even though a couple from his class have it already, they tend to have older siblings.
Wonder what do you think? Especially if any of ye got yer 7 year old a Xbox and do you regret it now or think it was OK.

#60
Tyrone / Photos and videos of Tyrone over the years
December 03, 2014, 12:04:30 PM
A few of ye probably saw me asking for pictures recently of Dooher and Canavan lifting Sam as whilst there are loads in google images most are quite small and when you print them out are poor quality

With the chat recently of Aughabrack and the players we produced over the years I was wondering if I could get some good pics of Patsy Kerlin, Paddy Ball in their playing days and see could I create a picture with them alongside Dooher and Stevie O'Neill.

Anyone got any such pics can you post them here and maybe this thread could be used for other good Tyrone county pics such as these ones I found on the web


Who was the sub keeper back then?


Anyone know was the mascot that day now a famous player?