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because there were slaps before a game last year the stadium they started building should be given to the GAA. despite the fact that people were banned over that video.

Don't recall saying anything of the sort. For what its worth, i don't have any great opinion either way on the whole TD / SR affair. I just see a 'soccer club with a significant sc**bag support element' getting a 'free stadium from the government' and to my mind, those 2 things shouldn't go hand in hand.

what are Rovers supposed to do about that?

Bury their heads in the sand and pretend that there isn't such a culture associated with their team would seem to be your suggestion but at the same time insist that the government provide gratis a stadium to allow these scumbags spend their welfare getting access to it.

In the UK, they have a campaign to rid the game of racism. A similar campaign to rid your club of scumbags would be a start.

As for referees in boots, do you expect a serious reply to this widespread cancer in GAA 

Appears to be a problem with YouTube at the moment.
Point isn't about these clips - the point is that words are cheap until such time as SR ban all involved for life.
And while you are at it, i don't suppose there is any chance of banning those that were involved in the 3rd YouTube cliip - the Hill 16 pub scrap ... and given that there was about a hundred or so involved in this, this can hardly be dismissed as a "tiny majority" (as per apology on SR website) given that official match attendances are a snip over 1,000.

Sorry, i don't doubt that you are a genuine supporter but having such a significant amount of folk associated with your club means the whole club will be tarred with the same brush, similar principle as English soccer supporters abroad. 
Unless this element is rooted out and banned then i don't think your club are entitled to any access to whatever form the redeveloped Tallaght ground takes.

and if the perpetrators can be identified, they will be barred from future games.

Serious detective work required there so .....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAB1eI4VvXk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGLi85h5xnI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHV5-Advmf0

There was a section of the Rovers support chanting abuse at Webb about his wifes death either during the match or in a minutes silence before it according to Newstalk (i was only half listening until it grabbed my attention so not sure which it was). I think Webb is an ex Rovers player so in fairness to the Shamrock Rovers fans, they had good reason   

Interesting that RTE didn't see fit to mention it on their website report  .... http://www.rte.ie/sport/2007/0420/shamrock1.html  ..... can you imagine the abuse the GAA would have got in the media if a similar event occurred at a GAA match

Woops, posted this on the Laois thread, probabl should have posted it here instead:

Very disappointing from Mayo perspective. Fell to pieces after we had man sent off and Moran (midfielder) went off injured. Mind boggling that our sideline left our best player (No. 11) in the full forward line for 50 minutes where no ball was going and brought him out when the game was lost expecting him to perform a Houdini act.
For anyone that was watching it on TV - did the keeper save the penalty or did it hit the post ? and was the Mayo sending off justified ? It looked more like the Mayo guy lost his footing as he was going in with the shoulder and ending up taking the legs from under the Laois guy but i was on the opposite side of the ground so may be wrong.

Fair play for Laois though, they upped their game in the 2nd half and reduced their error count dramatically unlike Mayo and were well deserving winners

In addition to above, McMenamin from Burrishole was left way too long at No. 11 and the decision not to move Hanley there half way through the first half was as poor a decision by a Mayo sideline as i have seen in some time.,

As for the vote on this thread, it is only reflective of where the posters on this board are from.

Very disappointing from Mayo perspective. Fell to pieces after we had man sent off and Moran (midfielder) went off injured. Mind boggling that our sideline left our best player (No. 11) in the full forward line for 50 minutes where no ball was going and brought him out when the game was lost expecting him to perform a Houdini act.
For anyone that was watching it on TV - did the keeper save the penalty or did it hit the post ? and was the Mayo sending off justified ? It looked more like the Mayo guy lost his footing as he was going in with the shoulder and ending up taking the legs from under the Laois guy but i was on the opposite side of the ground so may be wrong.

Fair play for Laois though, they upped their game in the 2nd half and reduced their error count dramatically unlike Mayo and were well deserving winners

Let's say Tallaght Stadium has a capacity of 2,000. Rovers fill it 40 times a year

That would be the Shamrock Rovers ice hockey team or something that play 40 home games per season ?! an 80 game season ??

Right blast so if your in a room with 30 people and ONE person comes in with gun, everyone stands back lets him shoot?

OK, i was a bit flippant with my last reply.

Facts according to the BBC website: "Victims were found in at least four classrooms as well as a stairwell." ........ so it doesn't appear to be a case of one big group of people who sat watching others getting shot.

To be in the situation, the initial human instinct would i am sure be one of shock and it would take some brief moments to realise what is going on. Second instinct (again, just my opinion) would be to assess whether you or others are in danger - if you're life is in grave danger then some people would be brave enough to try and overpower him while most people would either freeze or be traumatised.

And in this case, there appear to be a few cases of people being brave enough to try and do something.
BBC website again: "We know that there were a number of heroic events that took place within minutes of this tragedy unfolding."

I don't understand why someone didn't overpower him and take the gun off him.

I'd say the reason why might be something to do with him having a gun 

Ho ho, wonder what the Sky Sports commentators have to say about this ! Looking like a defeat on par with Irelands against Australia

The crash is more likely to become a self fulfilling prophisy with the extra amount of negative sentiment and talk that will arise from that program last night. One thing though, the crash that they envisaged on the program was driven by a rapidly falling dollar. I'm no expert on current fluctuations but how likely is this ?

Have to say i am with An Gaeilgoir re Devenney. The defensive side of his game is not up to scratch. When his man wins possession, he stands way too far off him, not even closing the opponent down when he attempts to kick. That just not good enough. Even regarding the strong points in his game, i.e.: the surging forward ... he doesn't strike me as really knowing what to do when he makes a burst into the opponents half, unlike say Aaron Kiernan
Re the comments about Brady - he had a good game but the comments re his workrate off the ball are valid IMHO. He did not work as hard in trying to close down the Galway backs as the other forwards.

Couple of other random thoughts:
If you could combine the attributes of Keith Higgins and James Kilcullen, then you would have the prototype full back.
Why did 5 of the 6 backs have to wear gloves on a dry ball ? Overall, the basic handling skills of too many guys was poor. Too many times a 2nd attempt was needed to get a grasp of the ball.
I liked the look of the half forward line that finished the game, i.e.: Dillon, Moran and Campbell.
Higgins yet again got the better of Michael Meehan

Obv if a rovers/soccer ground is built, then rugby, tennis, GAA, cricket will all have a precedent on their side to have the council/gov give them some land and then build a stadium/facility for them.

Has the precedent not been set with Athlone Town ? They were given a free site from the council ..... albeit they claim they gave the council Mels Park in exchange despite Mels Park only ever having been leased. Then over the last number of years, they have been given almost 4 million in capital sports grants but fair play to them, they have contributed the proceeds of a few golf classics and gala dinners. And what do they contribute to the region - a shite team in the Ericom League First Division that attracts smaller crowds that the average junior club championship match and they also have a youth team. There was a bit of a 'Waynes World' about them in building this stadium - "If you build it, they will come"  ..... hasn't proved to be the case yet.
On a pro rata basis, Athlone GAA club should be completely funded for a couple of 5,000 seater stands

Mark O'Connor yes. Was a captain in the army in '95 as far as i know