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« Reply #10155 on: February 11, 2017, 12:58:38 PM »
HAsn't there been stories about Melo all throughout his career? Selfish, mouthy, shoot on sight. He tries to get his, and if the team wins that's a side benefit.

Could be wrong but I'm pretty sure I've heard that.

Melo has been a scapegoat in NY for almost the entire time he has been there, even while he has been heads and shoulders above everyone else on the team. Everything is always blamed on him, when its the dysfunction of the management of the team that is the real problem.

Yes, there are times when the team gets bogged down in isolation basketball, but he has tried to buy in to the triangle stuff and pass the ball a lot more under Jackson. Unfortunately, Porzingis aside, he has generally been surrounded by has-beens and never-will-bes.

I'd tell Jackson, the Knicks and NY to go  f**k themselves and go somewhere to try to win a championship before he finishes up if I was him.

He might get some appreciation in his absence from the loudmouth, obnoxious idiots who "support" the Knicks then (the same people who jeered and booed when Porzingis was selected in the draft).

I've been a pretty keen Knicks supporter for years, but the shit that's going this season has drained me. The Oakley stuff is the final straw. Talk about a classless, petty way to treat one of the best players in team history? And then to flippantly suggest in press releases that he get "mental help"?

f**k them.

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« Reply #10156 on: February 11, 2017, 02:27:18 PM »
Did he not play with the Nuggets as well? Anthony I mean? I'm pretty sure he was there for a rake of years and had the same knocks on him there, i.e not a team player, a me feiner who is more interested in padding his stats than winning a championship. I'm fairly sure that's why real contenders have never really gone near him.

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« Reply #10157 on: February 11, 2017, 02:30:22 PM »
Did he not play with the Nuggets as well? Anthony I mean? I'm pretty sure he was there for a rake of years and had the same knocks on him there, i.e not a team player, a me feiner who is more interested in padding his stats than winning a championship. I'm fairly sure that's why real contenders have never really gone near him.

More to do with the max contract in all likelihood. Clippers wanted him and they've a team that's very close to contention but they couldn't/can't find a third partner to make the trade work. Doc Rivers is one of the best coaches in the sport so if he thinks he can work with Melo that says a lot in itself.
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« Reply #10158 on: February 11, 2017, 02:36:06 PM »
True. Maybe he's getting a bad rap, but I certainly remember stories like that about him. I don't follow the NBA too closely though, so it could be nonsense.

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« Reply #10159 on: February 11, 2017, 02:38:20 PM »
True. Maybe he's getting a bad rap, but I certainly remember stories like that about him. I don't follow the NBA too closely though, so it could be nonsense.

I read something the other day that if his team wins is secondary to him, after his stats line so I don't think it's nonsense
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« Reply #10160 on: February 11, 2017, 03:17:04 PM »
Did he not play with the Nuggets as well? Anthony I mean? I'm pretty sure he was there for a rake of years and had the same knocks on him there, i.e not a team player, a me feiner who is more interested in padding his stats than winning a championship. I'm fairly sure that's why real contenders have never really gone near him.

He is a naturally selfish player for sure, but that's probably because he has been far and away the best shooter in any team he's ever been in. Part if the problem is that the Knicks generally have only had him and one or two other half decent shooters, so the options have not really been there. One year they were decent when JR Smith was on form, but he blew a gasket in a playoff game against Jason Terry and never recovered (same week he was voted best 6th man in the league). It's up to the management to surround Melo with players and find a system that works. Like I said, he is an easy scapegoat for the Knicks horror show. I've no idea what Denver fans thought of him.
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« Reply #10161 on: February 11, 2017, 11:11:52 PM »
Melo's career deserves nowt. An elite scorer with no interest in playing defence whatsoever ever since he was drafted. No team that has any interest in contending has any business adding him. Cavs made the right move going for Korver. While he can still score, the game has moved beyond what Melo can offer. Compare him to KD and you can see just how far off the level he is.

He's been finished in NY for years and has happily hidden behind his no trade clause. Even without him the Knicks are a complete mess with Jackson in charge but Melo is no help.
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« Reply #10162 on: March 09, 2017, 09:15:09 PM »
Some start to NFL free agency, Texans basically gave Browns a 2nd round pick in 2018 to get rid of Osweiler, a salary dump NBA style
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« Reply #10163 on: March 09, 2017, 10:08:36 PM »
Some start to NFL free agency, Texans basically gave Browns a 2nd round pick in 2018 to get rid of Osweiler, a salary dump NBA style

Id say they are after Romo. Alshon  Jeffrey gone to Eagles. Cards get kicked Phil Dawson but looks like Calais Campbell is off to Jacksonville and Tony Jefferson to Baltimore.

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« Reply #10164 on: March 09, 2017, 11:38:43 PM »
Cutler released by Bears :)
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« Reply #10165 on: March 10, 2017, 11:59:08 AM »
Cutler released by Bears :)

Jets I'd imagine.

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« Reply #10166 on: March 10, 2017, 02:20:53 PM »
John Elway is going to look like a bit of a lemon if he doesn't get his QB two years in a row because of the Texans. And the Texans have shown they're mad enough bastÓrds  that they'll overpay.

But without a big ticket QB the Broncos will find it difficult to attract and retain the talent that makes you the Super Bowl contender Elway intends them to be this season and next.

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« Reply #10167 on: March 10, 2017, 02:23:53 PM »
Yeah it's probably between them and Houston for Romo.

If I was Romo, I might be thinking that Jacksonville, Indianapolis and Tennessee is an easier path to the playoffs than Kansas, Oakland and the Chargers.

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Re: American Sports Thread
« Reply #10168 on: March 16, 2017, 03:26:19 PM »
NCAA College Basketball's March Madness starts today.  Probably the top sports tournament in the world...agree or disagree? 

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Re: American Sports Thread
« Reply #10169 on: March 16, 2017, 03:30:56 PM »
Love it. Even the play in games the last two nights were excellent.