Russia invades Ukraine Feb 2022

[mouview]

Ah the morally correct westers warmongers, starting countless wars all over the world in the last 70+ years, outraged over Russia sorting out it's doorstep. The only tragic thing here is innocent people dying, Slavic brothers killing each other, while the US makes a buck.

Stole that from another site but pretty accurate.

Aye its all Americas fault . Today has shown us that Putin knew fine well that the West would do nothing. Boris and his sanctions was a bit like in Team America - the we will have to write to you an angry letter. Joke. Ukraine should already be planning for a massive guerilla campaign as they have no hope with convetional warfare.

A place the size of Russia would be self sufficient and won't give a damn about US or EU or others' sanctions.
The "west" will hardly invade or come to military aid of Ukraine for fear of triggering WW3.

Refusal to buy Russian energy and lock their financial institutions out of world access would hit them hard enough eventually, but they have now pivoted towards China anyway. I'd say Taiwan is getting pretty nervous at the moment.

[J70]

Ah the morally correct westers warmongers, starting countless wars all over the world in the last 70+ years, outraged over Russia sorting out it's doorstep. The only tragic thing here is innocent people dying, Slavic brothers killing each other, while the US makes a buck.

Stole that from another site but pretty accurate.

Sorting out their doorstep?

I'm sure you're happy enough with Armagh's current status then.

Sure sorting out their doorstep was what the English were at back when they finally completely took over Ireland under the Tudors. Had to do so, supposedly, to protect themselves from the geopolitical threats of the time.

[bennydorano]

Russia may be a huge country geographically but it's economy is only comparable in size to Italy, so economic sanctions will bite eventually, especially if they are well targeted.

I would say the UK Government will be squirming as it becomes (even more) apparent how much dirty money London cleans and how much the Conservative party take in donations from dodgy Russians.

[johnnycool]

Russia may be a huge country geographically but it's economy is only comparable in size to Italy, so economic sanctions will bite eventually, especially if they are well targeted.

I would say the UK Government will be squirming as it becomes (even more) apparent how much dirty money London cleans and how much the Conservative party take in donations from dodgy Russians.

UK and European Armies are ill prepared for this type of intervention hence their reticence to put feet on the ground and they'll try to avoid doing so for as long as possible and Biden also commits US troops to the cause.

Scary times indeed.

Putin is an empire builder and he's being laying the groundwork for years, testing the waters in Syria and Crimea, building allegiances and political favours, creating turmoil in political systems, cyber attacks and it looks like it's all coming to a head now.

One historian believed there'd always be a war of some sort every 50 years or so in Europe and they're not wrong.

[Solo_run]

Watching NATO on sky news and I wouldn't have a lot of confidence in them.

Boris Johnson's comments are soundbites that he uses over and over again "appalling" etc

Joe Biden trying to put on a strong front when in reality the USA does not care

EU just keeps banging on about sanctions - I don't think Russia gives a s**t to be perfectly honest.

Ukraine must feel very betrayed by the EU. However, this is another reason why you celebrities should be barred from politics!

Putin has called everyone's bluff and nobody will step up.

[Armagh18]

Ah the morally correct westers warmongers, starting countless wars all over the world in the last 70+ years, outraged over Russia sorting out it's doorstep. The only tragic thing here is innocent people dying, Slavic brothers killing each other, while the US makes a buck.

Stole that from another site but pretty accurate.

Aye its all Americas fault . Today has shown us that Putin knew fine well that the West would do nothing. Boris and his sanctions was a bit like in Team America - the we will have to write to you an angry letter. Joke. Ukraine should already be planning for a massive guerilla campaign as they have no hope with convetional warfare.

A place the size of Russia would be self sufficient and won't give a damn about US or EU or others' sanctions.
The "west" will hardly invade or come to military aid of Ukraine for fear of triggering WW3.

Russia is huge in terms of land mass, most of which is wilderness/useless/frozen over. The Russia economy isn't huge compared to the EU/US.

If the world boycotted Russian gas and oil it would cripple them, although how anyone can justify that then go buy oil from the Saudi's I really don't know.

[seafoid]

https://www.ft.com/content/b8b02d31-c258-4e98-8c3c-8cbeabef792e

Western security services, which have accurately predicted the course of events up until now, believe that Putin intends to overthrow the Ukrainian government and install a puppet regime in its place. This "decapitation" strategy will take in not only the central government, but also regional and local governments.

Lists have been drawn up of Ukrainian officials who will be arrested or killed. The military tactics that Russia uses are likely to be extremely brutal — "the kind of thing we saw in Syria and Chechnya", according to one US official.


The deployment of Russian artillery and its air force would mean heavy military and civilian casualties on the Ukrainian side. Some western sources have spoken of 50,000 deaths within a week. The Ukrainian military is determined to fight back. But it is likely to find itself heavily outgunned. The Russian goal may be to surround Kyiv and force the collapse or resignation of the Ukrainian government, led by Volodymyr Zelensky

. The Russians will not want to get involved in urban warfare, if they can avoid it. They are also determined to keep the west out of this conflict. In his speech, announcing the invasion, Putin warned outsiders tempted to interfere that there would be "consequences you have never encountered in your history" — a thinly veiled reference to nuclear war.


For now, the western reaction will be confined to economic sanctions. Fearing that this moment was fast approaching, US and European diplomats have been working on a co-ordinated sanctions package for some weeks. That will be rolled out over the coming days. Russia will now be hit with financial, individual and technological sanctions.

Russian banks will be cut off from finance. Powerful Russian individuals will find themselves unable to travel to the west and will have their assets in western banks frozen. Russia will be cut off from advanced technology — such as semiconductors and aircraft parts. The effects on the Russian economy are likely to be profound. But that is unlikely to divert Putin from his chosen course. The Russian leader himself is not going to go hungry. Instead, he is likely to use the war he has unleashed as an excuse to wipe out the last vestiges of political freedom in Russia. The country will now tilt into full-scale dictatorship, which will make it easier to stamp out any dissent from Russians dismayed by the course that Putin has chosen.

[sid waddell]

Ah the morally correct westers warmongers, starting countless wars all over the world in the last 70+ years, outraged over Russia sorting out it's doorstep. The only tragic thing here is innocent people dying, Slavic brothers killing each other, while the US makes a buck.

Many other Armagh GAA people think they're Oliver Cromwell?

Or is it just yerself? 

[Itchy]

Its so sad to follow this on Twitter (i wouldnt trust a word to come from anywhere else). The Russians seem to be getting minimal resistance. I would have thought Ukraine would have a lot of good military kit from the yanks. Who knows Putin's motives for sure - is it empire building or does he just want to keep the americans off his doorstep? Time will tell I suppose. God love the poor Ukranians.

[Itchy]

https://www.ft.com/content/b8b02d31-c258-4e98-8c3c-8cbeabef792e

Western security services, which have accurately predicted the course of events up until now, believe that Putin intends to overthrow the Ukrainian government and install a puppet regime in its place. This "decapitation" strategy will take in not only the central government, but also regional and local governments.

Lists have been drawn up of Ukrainian officials who will be arrested or killed. The military tactics that Russia uses are likely to be extremely brutal — "the kind of thing we saw in Syria and Chechnya", according to one US official.


The deployment of Russian artillery and its air force would mean heavy military and civilian casualties on the Ukrainian side. Some western sources have spoken of 50,000 deaths within a week. The Ukrainian military is determined to fight back. But it is likely to find itself heavily outgunned. The Russian goal may be to surround Kyiv and force the collapse or resignation of the Ukrainian government, led by Volodymyr Zelensky

. The Russians will not want to get involved in urban warfare, if they can avoid it. They are also determined to keep the west out of this conflict. In his speech, announcing the invasion, Putin warned outsiders tempted to interfere that there would be "consequences you have never encountered in your history" — a thinly veiled reference to nuclear war.


For now, the western reaction will be confined to economic sanctions. Fearing that this moment was fast approaching, US and European diplomats have been working on a co-ordinated sanctions package for some weeks. That will be rolled out over the coming days. Russia will now be hit with financial, individual and technological sanctions.

Russian banks will be cut off from finance. Powerful Russian individuals will find themselves unable to travel to the west and will have their assets in western banks frozen. Russia will be cut off from advanced technology — such as semiconductors and aircraft parts. The effects on the Russian economy are likely to be profound. But that is unlikely to divert Putin from his chosen course. The Russian leader himself is not going to go hungry. Instead, he is likely to use the war he has unleashed as an excuse to wipe out the last vestiges of political freedom in Russia. The country will now tilt into full-scale dictatorship, which will make it easier to stamp out any dissent from Russians dismayed by the course that Putin has chosen.

You have to laugh at the hypocrisy of these american experts - Do they mean like the tactics they have used and supported the use off in places like Palestine and Yemen. f**k off you hypocrites.

[Sportacus]

It looks like the Russians are gaining ground at lightning speed.

[Armagh18]

It looks like the Russians are gaining ground at lightning speed.

Hopefully for the sake of the innocent this is over asap.

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

Its so sad to follow this on Twitter (i wouldnt trust a word to come from anywhere else). The Russians seem to be getting minimal resistance. I would have thought Ukraine would have a lot of good military kit from the yanks. Who knows Putin's motives for sure - is it empire building or does he just want to keep the americans off his doorstep? Time will tell I suppose. God love the poor Ukranians.

Head you over sure and get stuck into them

[seafoid]

https://www.ft.com/content/948dca16-71b9-42c8-9faa-e66c0a76aca7

The critical question that could determine the fate of the war is whether Ukraine's forces can organise a strategic retreat to avoid encirclement or find a fallback line from which they can successfully resist or delay the Russian advance westward, said Michael Kofman, senior research scientist at CNA, a US-based think-tank. "Quantitatively and qualitatively, Russia has considerable supremacy here. Ukrainians are facing a grim situation," Kofman said. "We should not be surprised by early Russian ground advances, as the question is when will Ukrainian forces choose to hold the line.

https://youtu.be/htgr3pvBr-I

[lenny]

https://www.ft.com/content/b8b02d31-c258-4e98-8c3c-8cbeabef792e

Western security services, which have accurately predicted the course of events up until now, believe that Putin intends to overthrow the Ukrainian government and install a puppet regime in its place. This "decapitation" strategy will take in not only the central government, but also regional and local governments.

Lists have been drawn up of Ukrainian officials who will be arrested or killed. The military tactics that Russia uses are likely to be extremely brutal — "the kind of thing we saw in Syria and Chechnya", according to one US official.


The deployment of Russian artillery and its air force would mean heavy military and civilian casualties on the Ukrainian side. Some western sources have spoken of 50,000 deaths within a week. The Ukrainian military is determined to fight back. But it is likely to find itself heavily outgunned. The Russian goal may be to surround Kyiv and force the collapse or resignation of the Ukrainian government, led by Volodymyr Zelensky

. The Russians will not want to get involved in urban warfare, if they can avoid it. They are also determined to keep the west out of this conflict. In his speech, announcing the invasion, Putin warned outsiders tempted to interfere that there would be "consequences you have never encountered in your history" — a thinly veiled reference to nuclear war.


For now, the western reaction will be confined to economic sanctions. Fearing that this moment was fast approaching, US and European diplomats have been working on a co-ordinated sanctions package for some weeks. That will be rolled out over the coming days. Russia will now be hit with financial, individual and technological sanctions.

Russian banks will be cut off from finance. Powerful Russian individuals will find themselves unable to travel to the west and will have their assets in western banks frozen. Russia will be cut off from advanced technology — such as semiconductors and aircraft parts. The effects on the Russian economy are likely to be profound. But that is unlikely to divert Putin from his chosen course. The Russian leader himself is not going to go hungry. Instead, he is likely to use the war he has unleashed as an excuse to wipe out the last vestiges of political freedom in Russia. The country will now tilt into full-scale dictatorship, which will make it easier to stamp out any dissent from Russians dismayed by the course that Putin has chosen.

You have to laugh at the hypocrisy of these american experts - Do they mean like the tactics they have used and supported the use off in places like Palestine and Yemen. f**k off you hypocrites.

Why just blame the americans for palestine. No country in the world seems to support the plight of the palestinians which I find incredible.