The Official UFC Thread

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Syferus

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Quote from: gallsman on October 09, 2018, 12:37:38 AM
Doesn't matter. If he doesn't have KO power 10 minutes into a 25 minute fight, regardless of energy expenditure, that points to bigger problems.

But if you insist, go back five minutes earlier to round 2, five minutes less of grappling dominance when Khabib was still happy enough to attend and trade with him to the extent he put him in his arse.

"One of the most outstanding and dominant performers in UFC history shouldn't have been given a UFC contract"

Intriguing, but unsurprisingly stupid, take on things.

Not really. The UFC is the definition of sports entertainment. They don't have any responsibility to give any particularly fighter a contract if it doesn't suit the product they want to produce. It's no coincidence that there's not many superstar grapplers in UFC history. It's the fighters who knock people out that become the big stars.

If you find it entertaining bully for you, but that firmly puts you in the anorak camp and not the casual fight fans the UFC is desperately trying to attract. If I was chasing the mainstream like the UFC is I'd consider fighters like Khabib to be the bane of my existence. The rules need to change to either limit the dry humping on the ground or those fighters need to be never hired in the first place.

And IIRC McGregor has never won any fight by KO after the first two rounds so the suggestion that judging his power to be weakened in the third isn't valid is one of the biggest pieces of rubbish you're yet tried to pass off. McGregor has been well known to have problems sticking the pace in long fights so of course his power had been impaired after Khabib had sat his fat arse on top of him for ten minutes.

screenexile

If only there was a sport where 2 lads stand up to each other and try to knock each other out??

OgraAnDun

Quote from: screenexile on October 09, 2018, 01:04:48 AM
If only there was a sport where 2 lads stand up to each other and try to knock each other out??

Club SFC?

Insane Bolt

Has McGregor not earned enough money to last him several lifetimes?

Taylor

Agree with Syf here to a point with regards to the UFC needing names to sell fights rather than the best MMA exponents.

If all they are interested in is making money then they need to suspend/ban Khabib for as long as possible. He is and will be completely dominant in this division and no one will touch him. However we wont make the money for the company that other fighters can clearly make. He doesnt sell PPV. Its pretty simple.

McGregor is a good fighter and a great promoter and he will bring the cash to the company. It is in their interests to keep him at the top of the pile

GJL

Quote from: Taylor on October 09, 2018, 10:49:12 AM
Agree with Syf here to a point with regards to the UFC needing names to sell fights rather than the best MMA exponents.

If all they are interested in is making money then they need to suspend/ban Khabib for as long as possible. He is and will be completely dominant in this division and no one will touch him. However we wont make the money for the company that other fighters can clearly make. He doesnt sell PPV. Its pretty simple.

McGregor is a good fighter and a great promoter and he will bring the cash to the company. It is in their interests to keep him at the top of the pile

So instead of getting the best in the sport to the front they should get the best promoters to the front.

It then is no longer a sport!

NAG1

Quote from: GJL on October 09, 2018, 10:56:49 AM
Quote from: Taylor on October 09, 2018, 10:49:12 AM
Agree with Syf here to a point with regards to the UFC needing names to sell fights rather than the best MMA exponents.

If all they are interested in is making money then they need to suspend/ban Khabib for as long as possible. He is and will be completely dominant in this division and no one will touch him. However we wont make the money for the company that other fighters can clearly make. He doesnt sell PPV. Its pretty simple.

McGregor is a good fighter and a great promoter and he will bring the cash to the company. It is in their interests to keep him at the top of the pile

So instead of getting the best in the sport to the front they should get the best promoters to the front.

It then is no longer a sport!

It never was a sport, it was/ is a business.

From the Bunker

Quote from: GJL on October 09, 2018, 10:56:49 AM
Quote from: Taylor on October 09, 2018, 10:49:12 AM
Agree with Syf here to a point with regards to the UFC needing names to sell fights rather than the best MMA exponents.

If all they are interested in is making money then they need to suspend/ban Khabib for as long as possible. He is and will be completely dominant in this division and no one will touch him. However we wont make the money for the company that other fighters can clearly make. He doesnt sell PPV. Its pretty simple.

McGregor is a good fighter and a great promoter and he will bring the cash to the company. It is in their interests to keep him at the top of the pile

So instead of getting the best in the sport to the front they should get the best promoters to the front.

It then is no longer a sport!

It was the same for the GAA! When the Leinster final was between Westmeath and Laois in 2004, The Stadium was only half full. The GAA wanted Dublin in Leinster finals to ensure high gates. The difference here was they could influence the Dublin product with money.

Chicago Hurling

Quote from: Insane Bolt on October 09, 2018, 08:32:34 AM
Has McGregor not earned enough money to last him several lifetimes?

If he spent like a regular individual sure. But as long as he lives like a king he'll keep running into the classic fighter problem where you need to fight every few years even after you're well past your prime and losing. We'll see if that Whiskey venture is profitable enough to keep him out of the ring. I doubt it though and he's certainly not scaling back his lifestyle anytime soon.
Chicago -> Milwaukee -> Galway

Mayo for Sam

bennydorano

Quote from: NAG1 on October 09, 2018, 11:04:04 AM
Quote from: GJL on October 09, 2018, 10:56:49 AM
Quote from: Taylor on October 09, 2018, 10:49:12 AM
Agree with Syf here to a point with regards to the UFC needing names to sell fights rather than the best MMA exponents.

If all they are interested in is making money then they need to suspend/ban Khabib for as long as possible. He is and will be completely dominant in this division and no one will touch him. However we wont make the money for the company that other fighters can clearly make. He doesnt sell PPV. Its pretty simple.

McGregor is a good fighter and a great promoter and he will bring the cash to the company. It is in their interests to keep him at the top of the pile

So instead of getting the best in the sport to the front they should get the best promoters to the front.

It then is no longer a sport!

It never was a sport, it was/ is a business.
For the Gullible.

Taylor

Quote from: GJL on October 09, 2018, 10:56:49 AM
Quote from: Taylor on October 09, 2018, 10:49:12 AM
Agree with Syf here to a point with regards to the UFC needing names to sell fights rather than the best MMA exponents.

If all they are interested in is making money then they need to suspend/ban Khabib for as long as possible. He is and will be completely dominant in this division and no one will touch him. However we wont make the money for the company that other fighters can clearly make. He doesnt sell PPV. Its pretty simple.

McGregor is a good fighter and a great promoter and he will bring the cash to the company. It is in their interests to keep him at the top of the pile

So instead of getting the best in the sport to the front they should get the best promoters to the front.

It then is no longer a sport!

Like it or not thats the way of the world.

Soccer will regularly keep players who put bums on seats when they should get rid - Ronaldo? Cantona?
GAA - the Dubs are the cash cow so pump money into them to ensure they remain front and centre.
NFL - Kapernick got the road but if it had have been Brady or Rodgers do you think that would have happened?
NBA - Bryant and the rape allegation/payoff
Cycling - Froome
Athletics - Sir Mo

Its all about the money and it would be naive in the extreme to think otherwise

The Gs Man

Quote from: NAG1 on October 09, 2018, 11:04:04 AM
Quote from: GJL on October 09, 2018, 10:56:49 AM
Quote from: Taylor on October 09, 2018, 10:49:12 AM
Agree with Syf here to a point with regards to the UFC needing names to sell fights rather than the best MMA exponents.

If all they are interested in is making money then they need to suspend/ban Khabib for as long as possible. He is and will be completely dominant in this division and no one will touch him. However we wont make the money for the company that other fighters can clearly make. He doesnt sell PPV. Its pretty simple.

McGregor is a good fighter and a great promoter and he will bring the cash to the company. It is in their interests to keep him at the top of the pile

So instead of getting the best in the sport to the front they should get the best promoters to the front.

It then is no longer a sport!

It never was a sport, it was/ is a business.

MMA isn't a sport?  You're kidding, right?
Keep 'er lit

bigarsedkeeper

Quote from: The Gs Man on October 09, 2018, 12:13:15 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 09, 2018, 11:04:04 AM
Quote from: GJL on October 09, 2018, 10:56:49 AM
Quote from: Taylor on October 09, 2018, 10:49:12 AM
Agree with Syf here to a point with regards to the UFC needing names to sell fights rather than the best MMA exponents.

If all they are interested in is making money then they need to suspend/ban Khabib for as long as possible. He is and will be completely dominant in this division and no one will touch him. However we wont make the money for the company that other fighters can clearly make. He doesnt sell PPV. Its pretty simple.

McGregor is a good fighter and a great promoter and he will bring the cash to the company. It is in their interests to keep him at the top of the pile

So instead of getting the best in the sport to the front they should get the best promoters to the front.

It then is no longer a sport!

It never was a sport, it was/ is a business.

MMA isn't a sport?  You're kidding, right?

MMA is a sport - UFC is a promotion business

The Gs Man

Exactly.

It just grates on me a bit when people confuse the two.

I would just love it if even a quarter of the people who watched Khabib vs McGregor tuned in to watch Holloway vs Ortega in December.
Keep 'er lit

rosnarun

Quote from: Insane Bolt on October 09, 2018, 08:32:34 AM
Has McGregor not earned enough money to last him several lifetimes?
yes whoever heard of a well paid sports man full of his own importance  exaggerating how much he earns and over spending becoming a bankrupt in a year after retirement ?
Vanity whiskeys(c which taste like turps according to  bloomberg) and huge entourages don't come for for free you know
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