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Reading this thread with interest as I genuinely care about the state of Laois hurling. Often I read two people disagreeing on forums and I can cobble together the gist of the overall story as people will have share a common thread on details, facts, information (without actually agreeing).
However I have NEVER seen posters post such diametrically opposite details with both adamant they are correct. Can anyone corroborate either reports of results in Tony Forristal etc. ??

The Poster made the following comment

" The  team reached the semi final of the Tony forrisal after beating cork and Wexford in Waterford lost to Tipperary who I believe won the competition out."

You can verify whether he told the truth or not here

Tony Forristal and Sonny Walsh Results 2022 results available below


https://twitter.com/tonyforristal/status/1563643591699836928?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg

https://twitter.com/tonyforristal/status/1563651881267863552?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg

Thanks. Some questions on the structure of the current Forristal/Walsh Tournament.

My understanding is Forristal Cup is top, Forristal Shield is next and then Sonny Walsh tier 3. Why (in the results) are Wexford 2 in the Forristal Shield but Wexford 1 in the Sonny Walsh competition? I also see a Tipp 1 and 2 in the Sonny Walsh. Theres also a Tipp 1 in the Forristal.  Are they different teams? Should it read Tipp 1 in Forr and Tipp 2+3 in Sonny Walsh.

It just makes for unclear reading.

Reading this thread with interest as I genuinely care about the state of Laois hurling. Often I read two people disagreeing on forums and I can cobble together the gist of the overall story as people will have share a common thread on details, facts, information (without actually agreeing).
However I have NEVER seen posters post such diametrically opposite details with both adamant they are correct. Can anyone corroborate either reports of results in Tony Forristal etc. ??

Everything in Laois GAA is run by people who only line up everything for their own clubs to prosper. Small minded, passive, reactive rubbish. The county board do their business behind closed doors. The media are not allowed in and the county doesn't even publish an agreed report. Unprofessional and no transparency. WHAT ARE THEY AFRAID OF? The media are mere cheerleaders. They refuse to call out the bullshit or are afraid to.

CLEAN OUT THE WHOLE LOT

It should have happened when Eddie Brennan shone a light on the county board.

Have we any pride?

Even just look at what Offaly did with their minors compared to us. They used the school system to keep the players together playing high quality opposition and then that has fed into u20s. Its looks like they have actually accelerated in their progress making Leinster final 2 years early.

What did we do? Let team go separate ways. Brought in some for u20s and lost to Westmeath.

Its quality games at right level that really bring on players. Gym work etc is important but exposure to progressively more difficult opposition is what teams need and it was plotted well by Offaly.

Just look at our Dev Team beaten by 40+ points last week to see who is nurturing our young players. Nobody.

Stream or radio available for this one?

I'm not sure why but for some reason I think the Dubs might be in for a fright

I got a bad dose of this before the last Leinster final vs Dublin.

At first I was thinking completely logically and knew that anything less than a 15 point defeat was progress.

Then as the days passed and I thought of the crowds going up, the train, the open space in Croker with good forwards and I started daydreaming of the Dubs getting a man put off,of Cluxton dropping a clanger or 2, catching Dublin out on a short kickout, Dublin being complacent, the moment when Laois Laois Laois lets you know others are starting to believe, a big row that was going to unsettle the Dubs or a cagey lowscoring game with a Seamus Darby moment for the ages at the end.

By the time the match rolled around I was expecting something. A performance. The pints after. The sheer bliss of beating the Dubs.

I know. I know.

I got carried away.

But shur isn't that what it's all about.

We're all allowed to dream.

Fennell marker got 2.04 from play.

OK it wasn't his best day but a more committed, genuine player you will struggle to find. I have no doubt he will come back better again. Super attitude. We need more like him.

not sure wat it says wen our minor manager is doin tv commentries for u20 football games in the middle o championship.

Did he miss any of his commitments (training sessions or matches) to the minor team? If not, he is a volunteer (who puts huge time into the minor hurlers) he is entitled to spend his free time any way he chooses. A ridiculous,  personal  and petty comment.

We should have made Paudie Butler Director of Laois hurling when he was here. Put him in charge of upskilling coaches, Setanta/developments squads etc.

2pm on Saturday in Thurles for a relegation game vs Westmeath

Who sets these fixtures?

Almost every Div2, 3 etc game along with all Joe McDonagh games seem to be on Saturdays around midday.

WHY? HOW DOES THIS PROMOTE HURLING IN THESE COUNTIES?

[Its the same as football in hurling areas]

What you say actually confirms what I said. There isn't the appetite in the traditional football clubs for hurling because there are not enough "hurling people" in these clubs. The football people don't care enough to try to develop it further and while I can't speak for all clubs I can honestly say that I have never seen anyone actively try to prevent hurling. It's not protests which kill hurling in the football areas but more apathy. Its the same as football in hurling areas. Unless a hurling person "blows in" to a football area or vice versa then it'll never start up much less grow. I love hurling but am from a football area. My young fella brings his hurl to school cos I almost bully him to but he himself has said there's more of the lads playing football so he'll l play that with his club

Most Hurling Clubs play Football at Juvenile and at some level at Adult Level

Football Clubs bar 1 or 2 exceptions dont play any Hurling whatsoever

This is true and we often have club officers tell us that "this is a 'football' area" and decide that nobody in the area wants to play hurling. An example would be if hurling coaching was offered to a primary school through a GDA. Often a club officer would say 'ah there wouldn't be any interest in that here.' So a 50-60 Yr old club officer decides that a whole class/school has no interest in hurling without even letting them try it or asking them. This happens. If you think otherwise you are naive.

I didn't say there isn't appetite. There may be appetite in certain places but football focused club executives can gently persuade those people that it's not worth the hassle. Before they even find out if there is fuel for the fire, they put it out.

Are there underage hurling teams in your sons club?

It's very easy to accuse clubs of being closed to hurling but in my opinion it's not true. Clubs will let anyone start a hurling team and many have tried. They fail not through resistance of clubs but through sheer lack of people to run such teams. Take port for instance..... A big traditional football club with an decent underage hurling setup. How many people are driving the hurling?? 5 or 6 whereas there's multiples of that doing football. There are not enough people skilled in hurling to teach the skills to kids and even if you put County coaches in there still won't be enough to sign up to coach. You mentioned Emo/St Paul's, these kids are getting good coaching through Emo and Rath schools as both principals are hurling men but once again once it goes back to the clubs there's only small numbers there to coach. Also parents choose which sport the child has a better chance of progressing in as they can't be out 6 nights a week. It's not the clubs which are stopping hurling but tradition. Clubs will always revert to their stronger code just to keep things going but as with hurling clubs will always struggle to get enough coaches to teach the weaker one.

I don't agree on this at all. There are 5-6 ppl involved in Port because they have ignored the atmosphere of 'we don't really want hurling here'. It is difficult enough to attract ppl to get involved without the idea that 'hurling is a foreign sport' (yes, hard to believe but I have heard that one a few times in a variety of clubs)
If you think hurling isn't impeded, tripped up, ignored and neglected from those within our own organisation then I suggest you must be viewing the situation from quite a distance.

Now that Port have established juvenile hurling where is their determination to build on it and form an adult club in the area? There isn't any. They will be happy to allow those lads tip away at hurling as an isolated player with some club nearby. Safe in the knowledge that hurling will be dead in 10 years and it will be a long time again before ppl try to resurrect it. Very similar to Slieve Margy.

[and bringing on a light lad soon after, made little sense in those conditions.]

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Though McManus took his goal well, I thought O'Connell was caught badly for that one, and I'm not sure he's the best fit for a full-back.

We need a few more lads like Mullaney, hah! I did think taking him off was a bit odd. I know he wasn't having a great game, but taking him off, and bringing on a light lad soon after, made little sense in those conditions.

On first point I think we generally felt O'Connell was under pressure at FB and McManus did get the goal and contributed otherwise also. However I thought LOC battled well and actually did OK especially considering I don't think he's been at FB too often before for club or county.

2. I agree. Mullaney could have been used in at 14 as a target man. When he was gone only Purcell and Podge had physical size to dominate. It was a day for bigger players.

On the topic of big men. We could do with Eanna Lyons back on field. What is his story?

Laois playing 1 of their most important games of the year in Belfast. GAAGO commentators dull as dish water so turn on Midlands 103...

...who are playing Bryan Adams 'Please Forgive Me'.

You constantly put 90s music ahead of our hurlers and footballers. You ignore us, you are short with us, you give us lip service but we know you don't really care about the things that are important to us. We are finished. I cannot forgive you.