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General discussion / Re: Orange Order Museum in Belfast and Loughgall
« on: October 23, 2017, 10:20:17 AM »
I think we can safely say none in Ros, Mayo or Galway.
Wouldn't think there's any in Sligo but it is rumoured there's one in Laythrum.
Good few Protestants round Mohill but I suspect they're too busy making a living to be bothered with bigotry or disrespecting their neighbours.
There was a statue of paedophile king Billy up in Boyle but he was removed in the 30s. The pillar is still there though.
No hatred or bigotry evident in this post then?
The only reason I can find you considering that statement as bigotry is his referring to King Billy in such a way but I'm sure you'll be happy to elaborate further as to why?
The statement in bold above implies that all Orangemen are bigots and disrespect their neighbours.  Do you not think that that's a bit of a broad brush?  This is particularly tenuous assertion when presumably the poster lives nowhere near NI and is unlikely to know any Orangemen personally.  Therefore, I would contend that the poster is displaying bigotry by labelling all Orangemen as bigots who disrespect ther neighbours.
The OO is probably transphobic as well.

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General discussion / Re: Orange Order Museum in Belfast and Loughgall
« on: October 23, 2017, 09:21:15 AM »
The thing that is striking up North is what Protestant political culture is made up of. King Billy is really important. There is no equivalent for catholic Irish. There can't be. Because there is no period of history that is definitive. Ní uasal agus íseal ach thuas seal agus thíos seal . An icon who represents Protestant domination is out of touch now.

Then the symbols. The Queen . The poppy. The Somme.
War.

Nobody in England cares about the Somme. Society has moved on and become more inclusive. Nobody cares about hating Fenians either.

People in the London elite think the DUP are fruitcakes.

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General discussion / Re: A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.
« on: October 22, 2017, 08:18:36 PM »
There won't be a Border Poll and even if there was to be it would be heavily in favour of the status quo:

https://sluggerotoole.com/2017/10/22/latest-findings-on-a-border-poll/
People expect stability but if Brexit happens all.bets are off. The DUP hate the EU. They don't understand economics

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General discussion / Re: Orange Order Museum in Belfast and Loughgall
« on: October 22, 2017, 04:22:49 PM »
Is there an active Orange presence (Halls,Lodges etc) in the South,outwith the Border counties, and Dublin and Wicklow? E.g. In any part of Munster?

I know of one or two in Cavan and monaghan but nowhere else. The protestants in the south have become more enlightened than there northern cousins and have rejected sectarianism.
If a group.is part of a larger rational unit it will be rational.But if it is the majority it may be nuts.

This works for Jews in the US vs Jews in Israel and Protestants in the Sout vs Protestants in NI.

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GAA Discussion / Re: The Patronising Dublin Fan Thread
« on: October 21, 2017, 09:05:20 PM »
That's a really tough draw for us to start next year. Offaly or Wicklow in the quarter-final, and presumably that game will be away from home, just to make the task even harder.

But, sure look it - if something is not difficult, it's not worth doing.
Dublin should be okay if they score an early point and hold the ball by passing it back to Clucko repeatedly for 65 minutes

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: October 21, 2017, 09:03:27 PM »
No talk about this on the thread http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

This is old news for those that do not suck on the MSM teat.
I can barely see you up there master. Is that really you? I don't pretend to be as learned as you but is it really old news that the Senate Judiciary Committee intends to probe this?

At this point there is no evidence Clinton was involved in decision making (which took place across multiple agencies), which is why it would be a huge story.

But it should be investigated (fairly!), given the allegations about bribery and coercion, no matter how high up the chain the wrongdoing, if any, occurred. If it results in criminal charges, so be it. No one should be above the law.

But, to use the Trump administration’s term, when it comes to the Clintons specifically, it will probably turn out to be yet another “nothing burger”, as all these GOP Clinton hunts invariably do. The more conspiracy minded will take that as yet more evidence of the Clintons’ evil ways, skills and reach. Trump will use it to his advantage no matter what (“ never mind my f**k ups, look at crooked Hillary!”) while he himself ignores emoluments issues.

So who should investigate this? Robert Mueller? Will they roll back in James Comey the great protector of Her Highness? They both are up to their eyeballs in this. No point in having the Republicans doing the investigation either, all but a few are compromised in other matters and will not upset “The Club”.

A proper Independent Council is needed that will not abuse it's power, otherwise this will get litigated and the criminals will get off once again. All we'll get from the blind followers is that “it was litigated, no evidence was found, lets move on”.

Washington DC is the greatest enemy of the American people.
the parasites who own 50% of everything are the enemy.

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General discussion / Re: Tim McGarry Ulster-Scots
« on: October 21, 2017, 08:51:44 PM »
THere is no way on earth this nonsense is a language.

I wonder how they went about classifying it? Whoever managed to get them to believe it was a language did some job!
a language needs certain features to qualify. Using the words and structure of another language 95% of the time does not qualify ulster Scots as a language.

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General discussion / Re: Orange Order Museum in Belfast and Loughgall
« on: October 21, 2017, 08:49:33 PM »
Michael - if that's the case you were probably very unfortunate to come across a bunch of Neanderthal morons. I've been to trad sessions up and down the country and never heard what you described. I would recommend you try the fleadh ceoil next year in  Ennis I think, it's a great experience.

Indeed, such a thing would be very uncommon and rightly so.

Speaking of OO history, I was poking around for some other information and I came across a fact previously unknown to me, that the Arts centre in Birr was originally built as an Orange hall! Offaly interesting.
Offaly and Laois were planted in the 1600s . Portarlington had a big Huguenot population at one stage.

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General discussion / Re: Tim McGarry Ulster-Scots
« on: October 20, 2017, 09:27:37 PM »
Is there an Ulster Scots dictionary?
Is the Bible available in the language?

They're working on it. If you have a bit of time to kill and feel like a good laugh, you could get hours of endless fun out of this:

http://www.ulsterscotsacademy.com/words/dictionary/index.php

Check out the Gospel of Luke, or "Guid Wittins frae Doctèr Luik." The foreword begins "A hale lock o fowk haes taen ït ïn han tae draa up an accoont o aa tha things that haes cum aboot amang iz."
GRMA. Very interesting

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Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling Championship 2017
« on: October 20, 2017, 01:44:43 PM »
Cathal Barret is back with Tipp according to to Indo. A bit late.

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General discussion / Re: Tim McGarry Ulster-Scots
« on: October 20, 2017, 08:12:51 AM »
Is there an Ulster Scots dictionary?
Is the Bible available in the language?

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General discussion / Re: Orange Order Museum in Belfast and Loughgall
« on: October 19, 2017, 07:28:37 PM »
Does anyone know if there is an native Irish equivalent (equal and opposite) to the Orange Order museum?

http://www.orangeheritage.co.uk/museum-schomberg-house/
Sunset in  Corca Dhuibhne
Or a sideline cut over the bar from the Cusack Stand side

The problem with Unionist identity is making it real

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on France 2016
« on: October 18, 2017, 09:35:47 PM »
Denmark no where near the ability of the belgiums
The original reference was to the strength of the Belgian team in that 1997 WC play off.

These play offs are naturally stiffer than the Euro 2016 play offs which were contested by 3rd place teams, Our opponents B&H were the top seeds then.
 I think we did well to get Denmark, they'll be favourites but not by much and naturally O'Neill will be out to reduce the technical ability deficit. O'Neill's record against the odds in the crunch games, is very good, however this current team is about the weakest play-off team since 1997.

Weakest or not they’ve made three of the last four playoffs and have made two tournaments in the last five years. Better than almost any single period in Irish history bar Big Jack’s team. Denmark aren’t a world away from Bosnia, if we’re being honest.

As individuals we’re nothing special but our defensive organisation and spirit have been first class. Generally those things count for a lot at international level.
I think tournament numbers in recent years have been expanded to.insane levels , Syf . Eg 1988 Euros had 8 teams while most recent had 24 iirc.

Until last year Euros hadn't expanded in quite some time. We qualified under the 16 team system for 2012 in case you forgot, and this WC is still the usual 32 so you've picked a wrong time to bring up that chestnut.
Ireland were worst team in the 2012 Euros. It would have been better not to have qualified.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on France 2016
« on: October 18, 2017, 07:08:08 PM »
Denmark no where near the ability of the belgiums
The original reference was to the strength of the Belgian team in that 1997 WC play off.

These play offs are naturally stiffer than the Euro 2016 play offs which were contested by 3rd place teams, Our opponents B&H were the top seeds then.
 I think we did well to get Denmark, they'll be favourites but not by much and naturally O'Neill will be out to reduce the technical ability deficit. O'Neill's record against the odds in the crunch games, is very good, however this current team is about the weakest play-off team since 1997.

Weakest or not they’ve made three of the last four playoffs and have made two tournaments in the last five years. Better than almost any single period in Irish history bar Big Jack’s team. Denmark aren’t a world away from Bosnia, if we’re being honest.

As individuals we’re nothing special but our defensive organisation and spirit have been first class. Generally those things count for a lot at international level.
I think tournament numbers in recent years have been expanded to.insane levels , Syf . Eg 1988 Euros had 8 teams while most recent had 24 iirc.

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General discussion / Re: Ophelia
« on: October 18, 2017, 01:05:28 PM »
Agreed Syfīn.
For once......
Jaysus Chrisht !

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