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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 12, 2017, 09:47:40 PM »
 This is a huge theme.  The way the 1% are degrading politics


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/dec/11/the-prospect-of-a-roy-moore-victory-should-make-your-stomach-churn-with-fear

What is happening to the Republicans under Trump is a process whereby the base radicalises the establishment, and the establishment then feels empowered to begin dismantling aspects of democracy. Moore has stated that the last time the US was great was “at the time when families were united – even though we had slavery” – although not the families of black people, which were, of course, torn apart.

However, the historical parallels are more recent. In his study of the rise of Nazism and the fall of the Weimar republic, the leftwing German historian Hans Mommsen identified three destabilisers defying the textbook explanation that “Nazis were evil and the German bourgeoisie naive”.

The first was the rise of conservative paramilitary combat leagues, numbering at least 400,000 before the Nazi brownshirts took off. Although their aim was always declared to be keeping order, the combat leagues created a paralysis in the official policing structures that the Nazis exploited in their march to power. The second was the corruption of the judiciary. In a series of court cases, most notably when they upheld the libellous charge that the moderate socialist leader Friedrich Ebert had committed treason, the German courts eviscerated the republican constitution on which Weimar democracy had been based. The third destabiliser was the resort to rule by decree under conservative chancellors after 1930, sidelining the elected parliament – again with the approval of the courts.
Following this process through the collapse of Weimar democracy, the Nazi years in power and the Holocaust, Mommsen dubbed it “cumulative radicalisation”. Far from exhibiting naivety, the German business class became increasingly complicit in hollowing out parliamentary democracy, always under the pressure of a radical, plebeian, racist voting base.
 
is hard to look at the US today without seeing the cumulative radicalisation of the right: there are militias – not just of the classic gun-toting variety, but regimented groups of younger, more urbanised men, mobilised via internet message boardsdevoted to violent misogyny and racism, such as the Proud Boys. There are figures such as Moore prepared to defy the constitution, and a network of more than 200 law enforcers in the “constitutional sheriffs” movement – which claims that an elected local sheriff should be able to overrule federal law.

And now we have the beginnings of rule by diktat, not only in the frequent presidential decrees and arbitrary sackings of officials by the White House, but in Congress itself. The Republicans sprang a massive and detailed amendment to the tax bill just a few hours before it was due to be voted on. Trump’s Treasury secretary, Steve Mnuchin, has offered scant analysis of the effects on debt or distribution arising from the new tax bill and deleted a study from the Treasury website that was implicitly critical. The normal processes of democracy are being short-circuited.

victory for Moore on Tuesday will up the tempo of rightwing radicalisation. Nobody needs to say that a new secession by the south, as his backers want, is impossible, or that a US run by local sheriffs in defiance of the federal courts is a neofascist fantasy. These are signifiers for a more practical programme of tolerance for racist policing, limits on abortion rights and the shrinkage of the state.



'Maybe Putin is right': Roy Moore remark on same-sex marriage resurfaces

 

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There is not a single major company in the US whose material interest aligns with the political programme of Moore, not even Koch Industries, which has bankrolled the Tea Party movement, nor Rupert Murdoch’s Fox Corporation, which has boosted the rightwing agenda. In most global corporations, the language Moore and his supporters use could not even be uttered in the restrooms, let alone the boardroom.

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General discussion / Re: Investments
« on: December 12, 2017, 11:55:57 AM »
By the time any investment reaches the gaaboard it is  probably too late, in fairness

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 12, 2017, 10:44:27 AM »
I doubt Brexit will happen. It is emotional rather than rational. It would put the UK and EU in competition so the EU will handicap it. And it is not the answer to the real problem which is an economic system that does not work for ordinary people.

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General discussion / Re: A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.
« on: December 12, 2017, 10:09:49 AM »
What sort of changes would nationalists want in a UI? 20 years ago the south was seen as socially conservative. Apart from abortion this seems to have been addressed .
What else needs to be done in Dublin.?


I think the state is far too centralised.

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General discussion / Re: Death Notices
« on: December 12, 2017, 10:07:12 AM »
Poor old Cheggers was only 60.

He is in this clip with Sean Hughes who also died this year.
https://youtu.be/tdKHSmhevPg

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 12, 2017, 05:51:48 AM »
It is very hard to predict stuff in the US now. Politics are very emotional. Voters havent figured out yet that Trump is a cHarlatan.

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General discussion / Re: Investments
« on: December 12, 2017, 05:26:27 AM »
This is the worst one

https://youtu.be/pUPIIbEpn2A


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General discussion / Re: The Palestine thread
« on: December 11, 2017, 09:48:38 AM »
Netanyahu is a fruitcake. Europe has more Muslims than Jews.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/11/israels-netanyahu-eu-will-follow-suit-jerusalem-recognise-facts/

Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel’s prime minister, has said he expects Europeans to follow US suit in recognising Jerusalem as the country’s capital. In a first visit to Brussels by an Israeli head of state in 22 years, Mr Netanyahu told EU leaders on Monday that it was time they “recognised the facts”. 

He said President Donald Trump's move,condemned by the Palestinians and by European governments, should be emulated by them.

"It's time that the Palestinians recognise the Jewish state and also recognise the fact that it has a capital. It's called Jerusalem," he said.

"I believe that, even though we don't have an agreement yet, this is what will happen in the future.

"I believe that all, or most, of the European countries will move their embassies to Jerusalem, recognise Jerusalem as Israel's capital and engage robustly with us for security, prosperity and peace."

He said the reality of seeing Jerusalem as Israel's capital "doesn't obviate peace, it makes peace possible." 

Federica Mogherini, EU foreign policy chief, said that the bloc would continue to recognise the "international consensus" on Jerusalem.

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General discussion / Re: The Palestine thread
« on: December 11, 2017, 09:33:35 AM »
This thread has been running for 7 years now, and all the facts presented and debated over the years
shows that the end goal of Zionism is to take over all the land that is what is left of Palestine.

Bit by bit they are building new settlements, bulldozing Palestinian houses, filling jails with all before them,
and this is just in the West Bank. In Gaza, they have unleashed 3 deadly attacks that has killed 4,000, injured
over 20,000 and destroyed thousands of homes and infrastructure.

The place will be unlivable inside a few decades

The siege on Gaza is into its 10th year, and there is a generation who are now growing up having seen 3 attacks
and are still locked up in the worlds biggest prison. It's inhumane.

The single reason Israel gets away with their crimes against humanity is all down to the support they get from the USA.
Just like the NRA, practically every politician at every level throughout the USA is in the pocket of Israel.

Their voting records prove as much when it comes to all things Israel.

In the UN, the USA uses it veto when it comes to calling Israel to order.

There is no two state solution, never was, and never will be. 

It's time to realise that and boycott Israel in any way we can.

There should be no more of this entertaining of Israeli delegations in Ireland by those who proclaim to stand by Palestine.

It took international support to help bring us to where we are today in Ireland, and it's up to us to help
in any way we can to pass on that solidarity to the Palestinians. They need all the help they can get right now.

The women who walked out of Dunnes stores made a difference, so lets follow their example.
Zionist money bought US politics. It is tied up with wider corrruption. Eg Senatot Tom Coton from Alabama gets half a million dollars per annum. from AIPAC to vote for Israel .

Zionists use anti semitiSM slurs to shut down debate


They also use the Holocaust. Germany is forced into silence.

It is a f**king mess.

Israelis should have pariah status . Only outside force can change anything.

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General discussion / Re: The Palestine thread
« on: December 10, 2017, 09:13:39 PM »
Macron told Netanyahu that Jerusalem is not recognised by France as Israel's capital . Euros are sick of Israel''s shite . The peace process is a sham.

Celtic raised over £100K for Palestinian charities recently

https://youtu.be/uoHVtOS5prU


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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: December 10, 2017, 08:41:35 PM »
In the past United had more money and better players than City - Hence why United won most of the time. The tide has turned.

(Not in my life time)

They’d plenty money in the 80’s but never won because there were better teams.. stupid post

Money wins titles, in all sports.
except most GAA and other amateur sports

Clann had better players back in the day.  Money would not have beaten the McManuses.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 10, 2017, 06:12:12 PM »
Obama has lost the plot!! Trying to take credit for President Trumps success. What a joker.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/dec/6/thanks-obama-former-president-credits-himself-stro/
according to the FT any decent economic performance is a hangover from Obama.
Let's see how well the economy is doing in a year.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 10, 2017, 06:05:35 PM »

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 10, 2017, 04:11:06 PM »
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/10/robert-mueller-trump-special-counsel-russia

Fox, which has effectively been a state news network, is cementing the base that will stay with Trump. If the base holds, it’s going to be very hard for Republicans to jump ship.”
Matthew Miller, a partner at strategic advisory firm Vianovo and former justice department spokesman, agreed.
“The president has been trying to delegitimise the justice department going back to the summer,” he said. “In the last couple of months we’ve seen the rest of the Republican party join in and follow his lead.

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