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Beragh Div2 for another year. They simply dont have the artillery to survive in Div1 while the current culture not dissimilar to Cookstowns in the not too distant past is doing nothing to further their progress. Ctrl Alt Del

["Down on the site of Paddy Donaghy's seven-acre farm of land in Dunmoyle, Cardinal MacRory Park stands home to all the men of Glencull, Ballygawley, Altamuskin and Garvaghey.From the Ballygawley roundabout to the club's base is almost seven miles. It's a huge expanse of territory in the context of a rural GAA club in a county so densely populated with them.To offer some context, Clonoe, Coalisland, Killyman, Edendork and Stewartstown clubs all co-exist in an area smaller than the one Errigal have to themselves."]

"Down on the site of Paddy Donaghy's seven-acre farm of land in Dunmoyle, Cardinal MacRory Park stands home to all the men of Glencull, Ballygawley, Altamuskin and Garvaghey.

From the Ballygawley roundabout to the club's base is almost seven miles. It's a huge expanse of territory in the context of a rural GAA club in a county so densely populated with them.

To offer some context, Clonoe, Coalisland, Killyman, Edendork and Stewartstown clubs all co-exist in an area smaller than the one Errigal have to themselves."

A comparison on number of GAA houses, people or families might offer a more balanced analysis
Mental. Speaks for itself.

Ballinderry?

[Collie Holmes]

2016 Club managers


Division 1/SFC

Ardboe     Rouse/Coney
Augher
Carrickmore       mc elroy/loughran
Clonoe         cassidy
Coalisland    McKeever
Dromore    Meenagh
Edendork
Eglish.        Collie Holmes
Errigal Ciaran       pascal canavan
Galbally         Beattie
Greencastle     Tracey
Kildress        dillon
Killyclogher
Omagh         Strain
Strabane       Mc Nulty
Trillick          Seaney

Division 2/IFC

Aghaloo
Aghyaran        Mc Ginnity
Brackaville
Cookstown      collins
Derrytresk
Derrylaughan  O'Hagan/B Quinn
Donaghmore   Gary and Richard Hetherington
Dungannon
Eskra
Gortin
Loughmacrory heard today that new manager is Scullion from Bellaghy? First name escapes me.
Moortown
Moy
Pomeroy     Harte & O'Donnell
Stewartstown O'Kane
Urney           Langan



Division 3/JFC

Beragh
Brocagh shay Mckeown ex power screen or is it another phone prank?
Castlederg
Clann na nGael
Clogher
Dregish
Drumquin       Mc Girr
Drumragh       Gallagher
Errigal Ciaran III
Fintona
Glenelly        Mc Connell
Killeeshil
Killyman
Newtownstewart
Owen Roes
Rock
T***yreagh  McHugh(Brackaville)

Derrytresk - Paul Conway

another club for Holmes, hard to beat a good Gael

The relegation battle in Division 1 looks very interesting.  Dungannon picked up a nice win vs Eglish that could prove enough.  Moy now face Augher with both teams needing points to avoid the automatic drop with Donaghmore playing Greencastle.

I expect Donaghmore to win.  I don't know what mentality Clonoe are going into the Dungannon with, are they chasing a top 4 position?  Moy v Augher (coin toss)

Hard to beat prediction time for last day of season, Augher to beat Moy who have a squad away to Ryan Mellon's stag that day, 
Dungannon to be beat by Clonoe and as a result should play Donaghmore in playoff following their 2 points being granted by Greencastle. Moy straight down, followed by Donaghmore, Dungannon to playoff with Div 2 opponent, Augher survive.

Top end - momentum appears to be with the Carmen

[donaghmore actually improving after getting knocked out.]

Cathal mccarron wasn't there last year and when was the club championship played? I think some people on here need to look at other counties before giving out about Hartes power over club games.

I think the county players in Armagh played 2 league games all last year. And I'd say tyrone's county player activity in club football stands up to any of the top 8 counties. I'm not saying they shouldn't be playing but when your competing against this as a county manager it can't be easy.

I can see arguments both ways but I really enjoy going to championship games in May. I suspect most players going to America for the summer will go either way. I know another argument is clubs giving up after getting knocked out. I didn't notice it in division 1 anyway with teams like donaghmore actually improving after getting knocked out.

Donaghmore always get better as the season progresses - particularly towards the very end! 

And the Moy are the dead opposite.  As soon as the championship is exited they become they hit the beer.


[did the Moy not have their most consistent run at the end of the season, did the beer run out?...such a ridiculous post👏]

Cookstown have been trying to sort out there indiscipline problems at the end of this year AFAIK. It became a particular joke after the committee tried to discipline a couple of players (one in particular whose always acting the maggot but wouldn't be wat u would call hard) however it was threw back in their face by mugsy so I hear the chairman resigned - great prep for a relegation fight.

As one poster said there were a lot of teams looking to get at them this year and I think there'll be even more looking to get at them next year. So they wont get it handy IMO.

The Cookstown situation is quite interesting. From the outside I would have assumed that it was their manager McKeever who was trying to install the nasty streak in them but possibly not as he has walked when their indiscipline reached an all time low. I would not just blame one of two of the players however as there are easily at least 7 or 8 who behave like maggots. Some of their supporters and I'll include 'mentors' in that group would not add much to their cause either. That type of approach eventually comes back on you and what we have seen at the end of this year is a Cookstown team low in confidence. Without confidence Cookstown have nothing.

Will they bounce back? Not for a while IMO as this year in particular has appeared to do severe damage to the core of the club. For the decent gaels of Cookstown I do hope they return as a more positive club but it may be Div 2 for a while. It may not be such a bad thing for the Fr Rocks to go off the radar for a couple of years.

[Ardboe]

Don't think Paul Devlin will be in a rush to get into the senior dugout for Moortown.Plenty of talent in Moortown,but getting players out to play and the drinking/attitude of most of the team is beyond belief.Chriko wasnt hanging about with them anyway!

Dromore-Ardboe final for me, with dromore to edge them, though ardboe have some serious firepower up front.

Think derrytresk are banned from the all-ireland series so they could technically win Tyrone & ulster but go no further. thats my understanding of it anyway.

Bad game in Dungannon today, two defensive teams with Ardboe's defense somewhat better against what was a rather rudderless Moy attack on the day. Colm Cavanagh injury took Moy's main asset out of  the game and with two McConville goals killing the game as a potential contest following his introduction in the second half. Ardboe could get to a final but they will need to improve.

[R]

I've asked a few friends and they say Clonoe provide NO refs. Also Patrick Doris played against Eglish, Colly didn't

You mean R Patrick?

2 Reds 2 Weeks in a row!!!!! Surely a lengthy Ban is Needed

Not only the red cards but his behaviour after getting sent off as well. By all accounts he was at the same craic last week after getting the line

Obviously striking or half attempting to strike a respected club man(Paul  McGurk) last week merited no action from the Cookstown management and club but to put him back on the starting team for the following week.

Did i witness Jayo (the spitter) and a manager/mentor go at it on the Cookstown line?
Typical Cookstown, all fart no shite!!! They will probably win the all-ireleand intermediate next year.

Mulligan also threw a half hearted head but at Marty McKeown Lucky for him it didn't land as it would have been terrible to end a colourful career with the biggest kicking any man deserved! Jayo got involved with an elderly man but again he did nt try too hard to get over the wire as he knows the softest part of Ardboe men is their teeth!Whoever sent Cookstown out with such tactics should not be involved with any club! moy will give Ardboe their fill as they actually try to play football

Not that I'd be a huge fan of Ardboe but I was delighted with yesterday's result. Cookstown need to reflect on themselves as a club and what values they are trying to promote. I understand that its hard to control some personalities particularly those who have a certain amount of talent but it has possibly gone on long enough at this stage for Cookstown. I watched Quinn after he got sent off, what could only be described as an embarrassment, if you are going to jump a wire for god sake jump it.  A subsequent exchange(hold me back and let me at him type approach) with another Ardboe spectator who to be fair had too much vodka in his coca cola bottle during the game. The icing on the cake was Quinn's exchange of punches with Paul McGurk after the match as they left the dugout. I can only suspect Paul(a complete gentleman  FME) offered the rationale of common sense Fr Rocks clubmen of whome I know there to be many. I watched a number of occasions yesterday how Cookstown men went to ground to control the tempo of the game, occurrences clearly orchestrated from the sideline. This accompanied by their on the field values yesterday and over this last couple of years might direct huge questions at the current management structure.

Ardboe have an ability to control a game at key times which may be telling against their next opponents.

Who appoints referees? For a major championship fixture should a referee from a team's neighbouring parish be appointed or would that be a regular occurence?

Or better still a man from a neighbouring parish who spent all of his youth growing up in that neighbouring parish, eg Huson (Galbally/Carrickmore) appointed to referee a semi final of the championship that Carrickmore were playing in....

10. The granting of a postponement of any game is a matter solely for the Chairperson of the CCC and requests for postponements will only be considered in very exceptional circumstances. In the absence of the Chairperson of the CCC, the Secretary of the CCC shall deal with such requests.

Interesting. I wonder did the Chairperson reject any requests before the Blackwater was re-routed?

Are you talking about the allegations of Moy Tir Na nOgs hosing their field on Friday night, thus waterlogging it, thus resulting in the game with Eglish St Patricks being called off on Saturday, thus resulting in Seany Cavanagh being fit to play in the abomination rules the same day and then freeing him up to play in the amended fixture last night?

Love a good conspiracy theory, I wonder is there any truth that the Moy did do this, if they did then I say fair play to them.  Nobody got hurt the game was played the points were won.  The CCC have been criticised on this board for the fixtures and this fixture was another balls up.  It would of been simple for Moy to play Clonoe that weekend knowing Clonoe had Ulster Club commitments allowing Sean to play International Rules and The Moy club to run their fundraiser.

I noticed the rumour had spread outside the county with Derry men tweeting about hosepipe bans.  I find the whole thing laughable to be honest. The refixture was good for me because it was an excuse out of the house.  Decent game of football although I thought Eglish were very poor but young McKenna made a difference when he came on.  Serious pace.  Tyrone CCC should look at implementing mid week fixtures into the normal calendar maybe ease congestion.  Looking forward to Clonoe vs Coalisland tonight, Predictions??  Clonoe full out?

I believe Sludden got the score wrong at half time and full time by two points, such a clown...

I see Dromore are down to play Trillick next week

The score line certainly wasn't a reflection of the game. Was 1 in it with ten to go and moy on top. Carrickmore took their goal chances whereas the moy missed 4 or 5 good opportunities. Don't think the ref did the moy many favours either.

Ref was very suspect tonight, certain penalty and disallowed point stand out, however Carrickmore converted their goal opportunities whereas Moy lacked a bit of luck in that end. Game will have served Carmem well, Moy looked every bit as good and at times a better side than Carmen interestingly

Hate to be brutally honest but blaming the referee is a cop out. Whilst Moy put up a spirited performance for as long as they could - strength and depth in Carmen squad won the match for them. Bar the cavanaghs and Ryan Mellon I fear the rest of the Moy footballers would be nothing more than good junior footballers!

Which is a testimony to the three players mentioned!

Peculiar match analysis from someone who was at the game...