A5 WTC (New Road from Aughnacloy to Derry)

[Hereiam]

It has probably been answered on here before – but what was the reasoning that it couldn't go ahead in 3 separate sections?

I doubt if it could be properly answered, there was never any need to do it all in one go. Roads all over the country were improved in sections.

The problem was that the Irish government promised money and then got hit by the crash . The North doesn't have the budget for this project. Things then got held up in the courts. Then Stormont collapsed. You couldn't make it up. And people are still dying

There has been a concentrated effort by one section of the community to make sure this road is never built.

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It has probably been answered on here before – but what was the reasoning that it couldn't go ahead in 3 separate sections?

I doubt if it could be properly answered, there was never any need to do it all in one go. Roads all over the country were improved in sections.

The problem was that the Irish government promised money and then got hit by the crash . The North doesn't have the budget for this project. Things then got held up in the courts. Then Stormont collapsed. You couldn't make it up. And people are still dying

There has been a concentrated effort by one section of the community to make sure this road is never built.

Fenian road in Orange land. That's how they see it.

[Armagh18]

Awful. There is blood on the hands of a lot of people for not having this built. RIP, another family hit by tragedy.

[Walter Cronc]

It has probably been answered on here before – but what was the reasoning that it couldn't go ahead in 3 separate sections?

I doubt if it could be properly answered, there was never any need to do it all in one go. Roads all over the country were improved in sections.

The problem was that the Irish government promised money and then got hit by the crash . The North doesn't have the budget for this project. Things then got held up in the courts. Then Stormont collapsed. You couldn't make it up. And people are still dying

There has been a concentrated effort by one section of the community to make sure this road is never built.

Fenian road in Orange land. That's how they see it.

I just find that completely mental. Surely compulsory purchase orders can be used in this scenario. This is what your land is worth. End of conversation!

[quit yo jibbajabba]

Not sure bbc needed to show the mans car being towed away....

[trailer]

It has probably been answered on here before – but what was the reasoning that it couldn't go ahead in 3 separate sections?

I doubt if it could be properly answered, there was never any need to do it all in one go. Roads all over the country were improved in sections.

The problem was that the Irish government promised money and then got hit by the crash . The North doesn't have the budget for this project. Things then got held up in the courts. Then Stormont collapsed. You couldn't make it up. And people are still dying

There has been a concentrated effort by one section of the community to make sure this road is never built.

Fenian road in Orange land. That's how they see it.

I just find that completely mental. Surely compulsory purchase orders can be used in this scenario. This is what your land is worth. End of conversation!

Well compulsory orders will be used. But the AA5A just cannot delay and bog it down in legal challenges ad infinitum.

[TwoUpTwoDown]

In these situations it never does harm to wait agreed

I hadn't meant to come across as insensitive. Our own family have been directly impacted by A5 and I apologise how it came across, I'll delete original post.

[quit yo jibbajabba]

In these situations it never does harm to wait agreed

I hadn't meant to come across as insensitive. Our own family have been directly impacted by A5 and I apologise how it came across, I'll delete original post.

Ah no need to apologize I meant in general when these things happen. Sorry for your loss

[Feckitt]

Jim Allister
@JimAllister
Mr Jim Allister KC (North Antrim)
To ask the Minister for Infrastructure to detail the acreage of farm land that is required to be acquired for the A5 project.
5:53 pm · 18 Apr 2024

What is this cnut at now?

[square_ball]

Another 2 fatalities last night on the A5.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-68934323

[Milltown Row2]

Another 2 fatalities last night on the A5.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-68934323

What must the parents be going through? Crazy, hate it when my daughters home and heads out to meet her mates, I know a crash can happen anywhere but those fast roads with poor enough visibility, bad entry and exit roads need to go!

Coupled with speed restrictions on cars of kids up to a certain age

[armaghniac]

Coupled with speed restrictions on cars of kids up to a certain age

Of course the 6 counties has a speed restriction on persons driving for the first year, and this driver cannot have been much beyond that. But there is no useful enforcement.
Moving to some sort of electronic gadget is the way forward, so that people get into the habit of driving normally in their first few years. Perhaps like the proposed smoking restriction you could require new drivers to have electronic monitoring from now on.

[Milltown Row2]

Coupled with speed restrictions on cars of kids up to a certain age

Of course the 6 counties has a speed restriction on persons driving for the first year, and this driver cannot have been much beyond that. But there is no useful enforcement.
Moving to some sort of electronic gadget is the way forward, so that people get into the habit of driving normally in their first few years. Perhaps like the proposed smoking restriction you could require new drivers to have electronic monitoring from now on.

That's what I'm getting at, we know about the 45mph limit for R drivers but at 2am in the morning kids are going full on in a car that is not that standard of pace we had back in the day.

Its not difficult for cars to have them, in fact a lot of vehicles do

[general_lee]

So we have already apportioned blame in the most recent fatalities to the deceased because of their age? 

The three prior fatal collisions have claimed 5 lives, all over the age of 30. The road in its current form is simply unfit for purpose.

[AustinPowers]

So we have already apportioned blame in the most recent fatalities to the deceased because of their age? 

The three prior fatal collisions have claimed 5 lives, all over the age of 30. The road in its current form is simply unfit for purpose.

Yes, that's what  I was thinking.  Not all accidents are youngsters in  their teens or 20's.

Also , you could be the best driver in the world , but  sometimes  you can  just be unlucky .

Anyway, awful news  again from the A5.

Just get that frigging road done!