GAA Response to Coronavirus

[imtommygunn]

In addition there are considerablu more sports than just the GAA. I think it's probably a stretch to think all sports have been punished because of the GAA or because of one match that was on tv last friday. Then how would we know if the real rationale behind it has not been communicated.

[Taylor]

In addition there are considerablu more sports than just the GAA. I think it's probably a stretch to think all sports have been punished because of the GAA or because of one match that was on tv last friday. Then how would we know if the real rationale behind it has not been communicated.

Exactly Tommy - it makes zero sense.

The nonsense spouted by some posters on here is embarassing

[imtommygunn]

I am starting to read tweets saying that the CMO is saying it's about what happens before and after matches and car pooling etc, congregation etc.

I guess that's the rationale.

I think it's horseshit the decisions here and things like people going to GAA matches etc were really helpful for communities. Anyway - at least we're still allowed to go to matches up here lol. (For about a day I suspect). I imagine that will be nipped in the bud too.

[rosnarun]

I am starting to read tweets saying that the CMO is saying it's about what happens before and after matches and car pooling etc, congregation etc.

I guess that's the rationale.

I think it's horseshit the decisions here and things like people going to GAA matches etc were really helpful for communities. Anyway - at least we're still allowed to go to matches up here lol. (For about a day I suspect). I imagine that will be nipped in the bud too.

maybe the Gaa should think about holding the entire championship in the north at least there would be a few supporters

[Baile Brigín 2]

it is absolutely on the GAA if social distancing rules are not obeyed in grounds. Bubbles be damned. Seats have to be marked, you can sit here and here only. If people disregard that, out they go. End of.

Show me workings here please. No theories or hopeful punts. Just some  regulations from government that I've missed. Thanks in advance.

You mean like the GAA's own regulations?

*There is an onus on both the spectator and the organisers to ensure that all social distancing requirements are adhered to. This is currently 2 metres. In line with GAA protocols, supporters are strongly advised to wear face coverings at games. Patrons are also encouraged to bring their own hand sanitiser.

https://www.gaa.ie/news/nhsc-guidelines-on-return-of-spectators-to-gaa-club-games/

Some matches did not obey the GAA's rules. End of.

So by that logic all restaurants/pubs should be closed after the incident at the Berlin bar at the weekend?

I'm sure it was discussed.

[Taylor]

it is absolutely on the GAA if social distancing rules are not obeyed in grounds. Bubbles be damned. Seats have to be marked, you can sit here and here only. If people disregard that, out they go. End of.

Show me workings here please. No theories or hopeful punts. Just some  regulations from government that I've missed. Thanks in advance.

You mean like the GAA's own regulations?

*There is an onus on both the spectator and the organisers to ensure that all social distancing requirements are adhered to. This is currently 2 metres. In line with GAA protocols, supporters are strongly advised to wear face coverings at games. Patrons are also encouraged to bring their own hand sanitiser.

https://www.gaa.ie/news/nhsc-guidelines-on-return-of-spectators-to-gaa-club-games/

Some matches did not obey the GAA's rules. End of.

So by that logic all restaurants/pubs should be closed after the incident at the Berlin bar at the weekend?

I'm sure it was discussed.

Was it discussed?
Sorry I didnt know that.

Tell me - how did they then make the decision that it was safer to keep pubs/restaurants open than to allow attendance at open air events?

[thewobbler]

it is absolutely on the GAA if social distancing rules are not obeyed in grounds. Bubbles be damned. Seats have to be marked, you can sit here and here only. If people disregard that, out they go. End of.

Show me workings here please. No theories or hopeful punts. Just some  regulations from government that I've missed. Thanks in advance.

You mean like the GAA's own regulations?

*There is an onus on both the spectator and the organisers to ensure that all social distancing requirements are adhered to. This is currently 2 metres. In line with GAA protocols, supporters are strongly advised to wear face coverings at games. Patrons are also encouraged to bring their own hand sanitiser.

https://www.gaa.ie/news/nhsc-guidelines-on-return-of-spectators-to-gaa-club-games/

Some matches did not obey the GAA's rules. End of.

Hold on. "End of?"

You have hung your hat on one open-ended, non-commital word "onus" in a 2,000 word statement.

And from that you feel you can justify your previous nonsense that:

Seats have to be marked, you can sit here and here only. If people disregard that, out they go. End of.

People like you are dangerous. You will cast off any nonsense in your head as fact. This is not a time for people to push agenda filled rumours. Stop it. Just stop it.

[6th sam]

The whole principle behind aiming for universal Covid hygiene behaviour is that if enough people do it , it will have a cumulative effect. Therefore the key messages were kept simple to try to make compliance more practical.
Given the government's apparent one-sided view of the effects of Covid ( ie the primacy of The direct effect of the virus, over the effects of restrictions), the GAA has to use its influence to balance that argument. If they are pro-active in promoting the small sacrifices in all aspects of life not just GAA: masks, 2m distancing , hand and face hygiene , responsibility around socialising & testing , then arguing for a limited number of loyal spectators could be won, on the basis of the importance of enjoyment and socialisation for our community.

[square_ball]

Executive in the north to discuss spectators at sporting events today as well. Will it follow suit up here?

Is there social distancing being adhered to at matches? Not from what I can see from the matches I have seen on tv and in Tyrone over the weekend. Sure there's a club in Tyrone made a few quid from letting people in through a back fence. And for crying out loud Clonoe got a bus for their players to go to a match 5 mile up the road even after Mcdonnells own home club had cases from players car pooling. You couldn't make that nonsense up there.

[armaghniac]

The guy on the radio continues to blame people congregating after the game, i.e. in the pub or whatever.
I wonder about this in the context of club GAA games, but even if it is happening them surely the solution lies in regulating the indoor venue not the outdoor one.
It is perfectly possible to safely go to a game in your own car, sit 2m+ away from other people, wait a few minutes to let the crowd dissipate, get back into your car and go home. But because others will not do this, all of us are excluded.

[6th sam]

Executive in the north to discuss spectators at sporting events today as well. Will it follow suit up here?

Is there social distancing being adhered to at matches? Not from what I can see from the matches I have seen on tv and in Tyrone over the weekend. Sure there's a club in Tyrone made a few quid from letting people in through a back fence. And for crying out loud Clonoe got a bus for their players to go to a match 5 mile up the road even after Mcdonnells own home club had cases from players car pooling. You couldn't make that nonsense up there.

Tbf to government both sides of the border, they are spooked by the possibility of getting this wrong . If individuals and communities are not prepared to make small sacrifices and promote them, then the governments have to consider more draconian measures.

What really concerns me is the primacy of the direct effects of the virus against the effects of restrictions .
Covid is a threat to the vulnerable -and that's where the focus must lie. To the vast majority of individuals it has not proved a significant threat however.
The effects of restrictions however are a threat to all of us, including the vulnerable.
The direct effects of the virus can be seen almost immediately and are recorded ( sometimes over-recorded), whilst many of the effects of the lockdown won't be seen for months/years. Here's a few to ponder that we already know of:
Mental health stress
Increased alcohol consumption
Increased domestic violence
Social and Educational effects of school closure , including less monitoring and therefore protection of vulnerable children.
Stress around university places and career opportunities for our young people
No respite from life's stresses thru: family,holidays, sport, theatre , cinema, pubs
Economic disaster : which will inevitably hit housing, health and education
Unemployment and its long lasting effects.
Decreased capital expenditure for societal improvement
Decreased activity/exercise, increased obesity
Less exposure to sunlight and fresh air
Increased health problems associated with poverty
Delayed diagnosis and treatment of disease.
Decreased revenue for enjoyable past times in life: sport, arts , hospitality sector
Lack of sensitivity for the autonomy and rights  of the individual especially the elderly.

There are some positives to Covid restrictions which we can learn from and build on.
Decreased carbon emissions, ?decreased car accidents, increased community awareness and support especially for the vulnerable , holidays at home.

Much as I respect any loss of life,  and have total sympathy for the bereaved, it must be recognised that a significant number of those who died with Covid, were actually very Weak, frail and prepared for death , and if they didn't die with Covid,  death was likely to occur within months anyway due to their frailty. We urgently need to target Extra resources for the vulnerable to minimise the exposure to and effects of Covid.

The above thoughts are reasonable , sensible and shared by most of us, but who in politics or media is promoting this narrative. Where as I totally respect the science surrounding the direct risks if the virus, I think that it's scandalous that nobody, up to and including the WHO is quantifying the massive short and long term effects of restrictions .

[LOVEGAA]

As I was saying earlier, you can't say that having 50 people at a match is more dangerous than 100 people in a shop, say Penney's or Eason's

But keeping the shop open is more important than having 50 people at a match



This is the key issue.  The economy needs to be kept going or we will be in deep trouble.  Jobs are way more important than activities now. The real fear now is the winter months and the capacity of our hospitals to cope

I went to the 1st round of our championship and I have to say there was no social distancing whatsover. Everyone mingling on the way and the way out and was def more there than the recommended number.

I know factories are a big problem but we have to try keep business' open and people in jobs.  The government really need to look at provision centres and accommodation for these workers where there are just too many people living together.

[6th sam]

As I was saying earlier, you can't say that having 50 people at a match is more dangerous than 100 people in a shop, say Penney's or Eason's

But keeping the shop open is more important than having 50 people at a match



This is the key issue.  The economy needs to be kept going or we will be in deep trouble.  Jobs are way more important than activities now. The real fear now is the winter months and the capacity of our hospitals to cope

I went to the 1st round of our championship and I have to say there was no social distancing whatsover. Everyone mingling on the way and the way out and was def more there than the recommended number.

I know factories are a big problem but we have to try keep business' open and people in jobs.  The government really need to look at provision centres and accommodation for these workers where there are just too many people living together.

Government needs to target areas vulnerable to spread, and protect the vulnerable . They need to counter complacency and reinforce messages around "small sacrifices by all",  but any return to a prolonged lockdown, needs to be balanced against the massive effect that this will have on vulnerable individuals and society as a whole .

[LOVEGAA]

The last thing we need is another full lockdown, both from a financial and mental point of view

The issue of workers living in over crowded accommodation needs to be addressed and sorted ASAP. Direct provision centres need to be sorted as well.

Factories and other large industries need to have random inspections and not pre notified ones.

[dublin7]

A representative from NPHET was on the radio this morning and he said they have clear evidence of people picking up Covid-19 from attending sports events.

While most counties have taken the 200 capacity/social distancing seriously some other counties have been far too lax. You only have to watch the matches on TG4 each weekend to the the differences.

Stopping people attending sports fixtures won't effect the economy and will help with social distancing. It's far easier to this than close restaurants, pubs etc. given the additional effect this will have on the economy and already struggling businesses.