Tyrone County Football and Hurling

Started by Fear ón Srath Bán, April 01, 2007, 05:58:31 PM

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God14

Quote from: sensethetone on July 17, 2023, 11:27:30 AM
Quote from: God14 on July 17, 2023, 11:25:39 AM
Quote from: sensethetone on July 17, 2023, 11:15:00 AM
Quote from: God14 on July 17, 2023, 11:10:17 AM
I'm surprised the management havnt stepped down by now.

Is their term up this year?

yes, 3 year term complete.

have you heard they left this morning? probably untrue.

No not heard that

Quarterbackk

Chatter that they want another 2 years.....

An Watcher

Honestly don't think they've done enough to merit that.  Done a great job to win the all ireland but something seriously wrong the way we've been playing

sam03/05

I think 1 AI in three years and remaining in Div 1 throughout that time  - gives enough credit in bank.
It will be a bit of a rebuild job regardless of who is in the hot seat.

Jerome

I have already said it in this thread but regardless of who the management team is they all must be 100% committed to Tyrone cause and if coaches aren't willing to give up club commitments during county season then find suitable candidates that will.

Lamh Dhearg Alba

Quote from: sam03/05 on July 17, 2023, 07:51:48 PM
I think 1 AI in three years and remaining in Div 1 throughout that time  - gives enough credit in bank.
It will be a bit of a rebuild job regardless of who is in the hot seat.

On the surface that looks very good and well worth another term. In reality after year one - and winning that AI was a magnificent effort - Tyrone have been a mess and regressed massively. I could accept a couple of mediocre seasons in other circumstances but there has been no sign of any cohesive plan unfortunately and the team has under performed hugely given the quality of player available. Sorry to say it but I don't see any evidence at all to suggest the current management team deserve more time.

Jim Bob

Quote from: Lamh Dhearg Alba on July 20, 2023, 11:10:29 PM
Quote from: sam03/05 on July 17, 2023, 07:51:48 PM
I think 1 AI in three years and remaining in Div 1 throughout that time  - gives enough credit in bank.
It will be a bit of a rebuild job regardless of who is in the hot seat.

On the surface that looks very good and well worth another term. In reality after year one - and winning that AI was a magnificent effort - Tyrone have been a mess and regressed massively. I could accept a couple of mediocre seasons in other circumstances but there has been no sign of any cohesive plan unfortunately and the team has under performed hugely given the quality of player available. Sorry to say it but I don't see any evidence at all to suggest the current management team deserve more time.

Blasé BS. Why don't you get down to the soecific of why the management are to blame and not the players.
You talk about quality of players.
Should  they have won an All Ireland this year  under different management ?
Should players have been played in different positions}
Should other players have been played iand where? 
Tell us why we didn't win the All Ireland this year

trueblue1234

Quote from: Jim Bob on July 21, 2023, 12:04:03 AM
Quote from: Lamh Dhearg Alba on July 20, 2023, 11:10:29 PM
Quote from: sam03/05 on July 17, 2023, 07:51:48 PM
I think 1 AI in three years and remaining in Div 1 throughout that time  - gives enough credit in bank.
It will be a bit of a rebuild job regardless of who is in the hot seat.

On the surface that looks very good and well worth another term. In reality after year one - and winning that AI was a magnificent effort - Tyrone have been a mess and regressed massively. I could accept a couple of mediocre seasons in other circumstances but there has been no sign of any cohesive plan unfortunately and the team has under performed hugely given the quality of player available. Sorry to say it but I don't see any evidence at all to suggest the current management team deserve more time.

Blasé BS. Why don't you get down to the soecific of why the management are to blame and not the players.
You talk about quality of players.
Should  they have won an All Ireland this year  under different management ?
Should players have been played in different positions}
Should other players have been played iand where? 
Tell us why we didn't win the All Ireland this year
It's been two bad years. We're not just taking about not winning an AI in the last two years. We haven't been competitive at all. The players will shoulder some blame but so do the management. The number of players leaving the panel, the lack of confidence that good established players have shown, Our slowness at breaking with the ball, are all aspects I would say can be pointed at the management.
I think it's time for a change.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

Jim Bob

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And why what you stated above is the management s fault ? Be specific

Darragh Canavan is happy for them to stay on and he'd know a lot more about the state of things than you

LeoMc

Quote from: Jim Bob on July 21, 2023, 12:59:58 AM
And why what you stated above is the management s fault ? Be specific

Darragh Canavan is happy for them to stay on and he'd know a lot more about the state of things than you
Daragh was asked a direct question. He could hardly have said anything else.
You appear to be trying to absolve management of all blame.
I am not party to the day to day going on's in Garvaghey but the number of players walking away over the past 2 years does not indicate a happy camp. Players need to believe in what they are doing to invest the time and it would appear not enough players are being convinced.

Redhand Santa

You couldn't say a bad word about Dooher and Logan in terms of what they've done for Tyrone football. They've done a lot for football in the county and no one can take away from what they've achieved.

Do I think they should stay on? No, definitely not. The last two years have been mediocre and they had two bad years with the u21s outside the All Ireland win as well. I just can't see them turning it round from here with so many players already making themselves unavailable and all momentum seems to be lost. Tyrone looked far off it in terms of conditioning as well the last two years which is another area needs looked at.

The biggest problem would be who to replace them. There isn't many obvious candidates in the county and it's hard to imagine Malachy O'Rourke taking it.

Jerome

Certainly seems to be a big step down in terms of physical ability since Peter Donnelly was replaced by McElhome.

square_ball

Ciaran Meenagh anyone? The way Derry set up and played against Kerry was light years ahead of what we attempted 2 weeks previously. He does seem to have a big allegiance to Derry though so again probably unlikely.

Jim Bob

Quote from: LeoMc on July 21, 2023, 08:18:14 AM
Quote from: Jim Bob on July 21, 2023, 12:59:58 AM
And why what you stated above is the management s fault ? Be specific

Darragh Canavan is happy for them to stay on and he'd know a lot more about the state of things than you
Daragh was asked a direct question. He could hardly have said anything else.
You appear to be trying to absolve management of all blame.
I am not party to the day to day going on's in Garvaghey but the number of players walking away over the past 2 years does not indicate a happy camp. Players need to believe in what they are doing to invest the time and it would appear not enough players are being convinced.

Are you suggesting that Daragh wasn't being honest ?

03,05,08

Quote from: Jim Bob on July 21, 2023, 09:10:01 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on July 21, 2023, 08:18:14 AM
Quote from: Jim Bob on July 21, 2023, 12:59:58 AM
And why what you stated above is the management s fault ? Be specific

Darragh Canavan is happy for them to stay on and he'd know a lot more about the state of things than you
Daragh was asked a direct question. He could hardly have said anything else.
You appear to be trying to absolve management of all blame.
I am not party to the day to day going on's in Garvaghey but the number of players walking away over the past 2 years does not indicate a happy camp. Players need to believe in what they are doing to invest the time and it would appear not enough players are being convinced.

Are you suggesting that Daragh wasn't being honest ?

He's not actually the son of god you know??