Brexit.

Started by T Fearon, November 01, 2015, 06:04:06 PM

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Rossfan

I'd imagine Hungary is still a net recipient of EU funds.
Those Scottish Courts certainly stymieing Bozo's schemes.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

maddog

Quote from: RedHand88 on October 04, 2019, 04:11:49 PM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on October 04, 2019, 03:41:22 PM
What happens if Hungary vetoes an extension, given the recently passed-into-law parliamentary bill that the UK can't legally leave without a deal?

No deal is the default in the absence of a deal, Benn act or not.

They would have to then go for the VONC and try and oust him

seafoid

The Johnson proposal which the DUP support means :

No GFA
No alignment on food and labour laws

Nice of them to reveal their true colours
The agenda will increase the mortality rate. It is evil
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Eamonnca1

QuoteHungary's far-right government says it won't veto Brexit extension as favour to Boris Johnson

Hungary's foreign minister has poured cold water on suggestions that the country would veto a Brexit delay as a favour to Boris Johnson.

Some Brexiteers had suggested that the country's right-wing populist prime minister Viktor Orban would refuse to approve an extension out of ideological sympathy for the Brexit project.

But the country's foreign minister Peter Szijjarto said Hungary would not be at the forefront of decision making on the issue.

"If there is such a request we'll make our own decision," Mr Szijjarto said in an interview reported by the Bloomberg news agency.

"A few large western European member states really want to put an end to this and want it decided one way or another, so probably it won't be our decision that will be key on this issue."

Mr Johnson has been ordered by parliament to go to Brussels and ask for a further delay in order to avoid a no-deal Brexit - but he says he does not want to, and would rather leave without a deal on 31 October.

Having another leader veto the extension has been presented by some as another way around the issue.

It is very unusual for a leader on the European Council to outright veto a decision backed by all other member states: though it is technically possible because unanimity is required for a decision, it is more usual for a compromise position to be reached.

Hungary's government has shown little proactive interest in Brexit since Britain triggered Article 50, despite Tory MEPs backing it in the European Parliament last year when it came under fire for its abuse of the rule of law.

Back in March Brexiteers announced they were going to lobby Mr Orban's government, as well as the populist outfits in power in Poland, and at the time Italy. They were met with no success.

Many of the populist leaders in question have their own rows with Brussels, and are not keen to waste their political capital on helping the UK. Most are not even particularly keen on Britain's departure from the European Union, at least in public.

Whether the UK gets another Brexit extension is more likely to be decided by leaders like Emmanuel Macron, who previously pushed for a harder line policy against the UK – and Leo Varadkar, who has said he has "endless patience".

Could be that the continental far right was initially excited about the Brexit vote and started calling for their own exit referenda, but the catastrophe of Brexit as it has unfolded has probably changed their minds. Three years of crisis, polarisation, damn all work done domestically, one leader after another spat out of the system. The longer these convulsions go on the more people will come to realise it's better to just stay in the EU and not rock the boat.

omaghjoe

Shows the weakness of their position if their hopes are pinned on Hungary


Main Street

Johnson is  akin to a 3 card trickster walking on stage in front of a European convention of grandmaster magicians.  What idiot could come up with the DUP veto on an extension and thought because it looked democratic nobody would notice. Possibly the DUP threw it in there and the Tory delegation didn't take note.


seafoid

Daniel Hannan has an article in the Daily Telegraph saying that Leave voters will understand if Johnson has to delay Brexit beyond Oíche Shamhna

Tory strategy is in bits.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

t_mac

Quote from: seafoid on October 05, 2019, 08:26:48 PM
Daniel Hannan has an article in the Daily Telegraph saying that Leave voters will understand if Johnson has to delay Brexit beyond Oíche Shamhna

Tory strategy is in bits.

They will win a general election though opposition need to get a second referendum  but they all as power Hungary as Hungary.

seafoid

Quote from: t_mac on October 05, 2019, 09:51:34 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 05, 2019, 08:26:48 PM
Daniel Hannan has an article in the Daily Telegraph saying that Leave voters will understand if Johnson has to delay Brexit beyond Oíche Shamhna

Tory strategy is in bits.

They will win a general election though opposition need to get a second referendum  but they all as power Hungary as Hungary.

I wouldn't bet on it.Johnson is particularly unpopular with women . The Tories will lose their seats in Scotland too.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

screenexile

Serious propaganda going on at the minute from No. 10 with the 'text' last night and the leak of the Merkel conversation this morning.

Did she actually say those things?? Major new outlets going with the story as if she did. UK would seem to have got the jump in on the blame game!

Sterling/Euro rate dropping heavy today as well.

mouview

Quote from: screenexile on October 08, 2019, 12:02:47 PM
Serious propaganda going on at the minute from No. 10 with the 'text' last night and the leak of the Merkel conversation this morning.

Did she actually say those things?? Major new outlets going with the story as if she did. UK would seem to have got the jump in on the blame game!

Sterling/Euro rate dropping heavy today as well.

Which news outlets though? Those sympathetic to Brexit/BJ? Being strongly refuted in Brussels circles as in 'not being Merkel's style'. I know which I would rather believe.
This may actually be one of the most heinous developments yet, if that's possible; basically, No. 10 (probably Cummings) attributing false statements to a foreign head of state, and one whom has always been a friend of the UK. Calling Merkel a liar in other words. Is there no low to which No. 10 will now stoop?

screenexile

#8411
BBC/Times/Sky News/ITV all have it as the lead story that's not to mention the headbangers like the Sun/Dailymail/express... f**king journalism these days would do your head in!!!

DUP jumping all over it too... rats wouldn't be in it!

imtommygunn

Quote from: mouview on October 08, 2019, 12:20:15 PM
Quote from: screenexile on October 08, 2019, 12:02:47 PM
Serious propaganda going on at the minute from No. 10 with the 'text' last night and the leak of the Merkel conversation this morning.

Did she actually say those things?? Major new outlets going with the story as if she did. UK would seem to have got the jump in on the blame game!

Sterling/Euro rate dropping heavy today as well.


Which news outlets though? Those sympathetic to Brexit/BJ? Being strongly refuted in Brussels circles as in 'not being Merkel's style'. I know which I would rather believe.
This may actually be one of the most heinous developments yet, if that's possible; basically, No. 10 (probably Cummings) attributing false statements to a foreign head of state, and one whom has always been a friend of the UK. Calling Merkel a liar in other words. Is there no low to which No. 10 will now stoop?

There is no low. None.

imtommygunn

Just reading up now. Johnson really needs to be got out of that job and quick. There isn't any low he wouldn't stoop to. It's no deal by whatever lies he makes up to get there at current minute.

seafoid

It'll come down to an election. Brexit vs Corbyn
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU