Brexit.

Started by T Fearon, November 01, 2015, 06:04:06 PM

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Godsown

Agree Seafoid but strategic thinking isn't something that is readily associated with hardline loyalist such as DUP and their paramilitary friends.
Not only is US deal under threat but I imagine the Free Trade deal with EU or elements of it must be under threat.

seafoid

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/why-contrasting-ideas-on-sovereignty-are-feeding-distrust-between-eu-and-uk-1.4248670
"The Achilles' heel of the Northern Ireland protocol is that it relies on the UK to implement it."
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

johnnycool

Quote from: weareros on March 03, 2021, 09:24:52 PM
EU may well respond by saying if UK is not going to respect single market by checking non-standard goods entering via North, they will have to block those goods from North entering EU. That would seriously hurt fishermen and farmers for starters. Might get very messy and hurt a lot of businesses. As usual Unionists will accept no responsibility for mess that ensues.

Or better still block all GB goods from coming into the EU until they see sense...

I presume the UK gov is nowhere near prepared for the 1st of April with no personnel or processes in place like what happened the GB fishermen who went looking for veterinary certificates for their catches only to find out DEARA hadn't enough vets in place yet all along the Gov were blaming businesses for not being ready.


All the same Ian Og and wee Jeffrey will feel a bit of love from the Torys. How long that lasts is another story.

bennydorano

UK seems to think it's on pretty solid legal grounds in regards to the 'temporary' easements  (breaches of NI protocol).

Analysis in the i newspaper - UK doing to try and hide the fact there's a border in the Irish sea & EU going large at it to divert attention from Vaccine rollout fiasco.

lenny

Quote from: bennydorano on March 06, 2021, 10:34:24 AM
UK seems to think it's on pretty solid legal grounds in regards to the 'temporary' easements  (breaches of NI protocol).

Analysis in the i newspaper - UK doing to try and hide the fact there's a border in the Irish sea & EU going large at it to divert attention from Vaccine rollout fiasco.

John Campbell retweeted this morning a Conservative publication which says that Frost has been brought back in with a view to moving the border from the sea back onto land. This would be very dangerous but Frost seems like a complete dickhead and seems to lack any kind of diplomacy at all. He's an extremely dangerous man in the current circumstances.

mouview

Quote from: lenny on March 06, 2021, 11:50:19 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 06, 2021, 10:34:24 AM
UK seems to think it's on pretty solid legal grounds in regards to the 'temporary' easements  (breaches of NI protocol).

Analysis in the i newspaper - UK doing to try and hide the fact there's a border in the Irish sea & EU going large at it to divert attention from Vaccine rollout fiasco.

John Campbell retweeted this morning a Conservative publication which says that Frost has been brought back in with a view to moving the border from the sea back onto land. This would be very dangerous but Frost seems like a complete dickhead and seems to lack any kind of diplomacy at all. He's an extremely dangerous man in the current circumstances.

That would show a level of strategic thinking beyond BoJo. He is just brought in there because he's a mate Johnson is trying to keep happy. Even The Times is kicking back against him;

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/frosts-fight-with-the-eu-is-political-thuggery-cdpzs3k0t


lenny

Quote from: mouview on March 06, 2021, 12:11:24 PM
Quote from: lenny on March 06, 2021, 11:50:19 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 06, 2021, 10:34:24 AM
UK seems to think it's on pretty solid legal grounds in regards to the 'temporary' easements  (breaches of NI protocol).

Analysis in the i newspaper - UK doing to try and hide the fact there's a border in the Irish sea & EU going large at it to divert attention from Vaccine rollout fiasco.

John Campbell retweeted this morning a Conservative publication which says that Frost has been brought back in with a view to moving the border from the sea back onto land. This would be very dangerous but Frost seems like a complete dickhead and seems to lack any kind of diplomacy at all. He's an extremely dangerous man in the current circumstances.

That would show a level of strategic thinking beyond BoJo. He is just brought in there because he's a mate Johnson is trying to keep happy. Even The Times is kicking back against him;

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/frosts-fight-with-the-eu-is-political-thuggery-cdpzs3k0t

That's not The Times though, that's matthew paris a times commentator who was against brexit and has always been totally against johnson. He's a very good commentator but his views will be largely ignored by johnson and frost.


Sportacus

Quote from: bennydorano on March 06, 2021, 10:34:24 AM
UK seems to think it's on pretty solid legal grounds in regards to the 'temporary' easements  (breaches of NI protocol).

Analysis in the i newspaper - UK doing to try and hide the fact there's a border in the Irish sea & EU going large at it to divert attention from Vaccine rollout fiasco.
They're in a good position to call the EU's bluff. An EU legal challenge just reintroduces the risk for food supply on 1 April so it's not a great end goal for Brussels.

Rossfan

How much food does the EU import from England/Scotland/Wales??
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Main Street

Quote from: seafoid on March 04, 2021, 08:47:02 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/why-contrasting-ideas-on-sovereignty-are-feeding-distrust-between-eu-and-uk-1.4248670
"The Achilles' heel of the Northern Ireland protocol is that it relies on the UK to implement it."

further on in the article  "Sovereignty goes deep into the Brexit and Irish questions because it raises issues of how far the UK can be trusted to adhere to international agreements."
"further raises suspicions on the EU side that the UK cannot be trusted to implement agreements faithfully on its own"

seafoid

Quote from: Main Street on March 06, 2021, 05:47:13 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 04, 2021, 08:47:02 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/why-contrasting-ideas-on-sovereignty-are-feeding-distrust-between-eu-and-uk-1.4248670
"The Achilles' heel of the Northern Ireland protocol is that it relies on the UK to implement it."

further on in the article  "Sovereignty goes deep into the Brexit and Irish questions because it raises issues of how far the UK can be trusted to adhere to international agreements."
"further raises suspicions on the EU side that the UK cannot be trusted to implement agreements faithfully on its own"

https://irishtimes.com/business/economy/chris-johns-lying-is-the-default-setting-as-brexit-corruption-spreads-1.4056849... "Johnson will eventually get around to deciding which of his commitments to honour (my guess is none of them). As Keir Starmer, shadow Brexit secretary, said, the Johnsonian method couldn't be clearer: promise then burn. "

They want a Brexit with no.link to the EU.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

thebigfella


Rossfan

All sorted out no doubt ::)
I wonder did "frank" include telling DUPUDA that an International Agreement between 450,000,000 people and 60,000,000 is not going to be torn up because 17th Century neanderthals don't like it?
https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0312/1203612-northern-ireland-politics/
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

bennydorano

Not sure what Mary Lou is giving off about, I heard 2 different news reports this afternoon that SF snubbed Boris as his visit was a 'publicity stunt'. Mixed messaging there.