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#46
Quote from: Rossfan on December 08, 2017, 11:58:08 AM
So do you want an end to senior, Inter and Junior at club level?
No I don't. As I pointed out earlier history and tradition play their part in all competitions. Senior and Junior championships at club level have existed since the dawn of the Association. Intermediate was a logical addition when numbers became unwieldy. No county was ever graded Junior. They fielded Senior and Junior and (later) teams.  Our leagues are graded and progressive. They weren't always so. In the mid 90s there were four equal divisions in the league for one year. Teams want a league and a championship.
#47
Quote from: Rossfan on December 08, 2017, 10:12:35 AM
Decisions in the GAA are made by the wise administrators in Congress and implemented by the equally wise ones in Central Council.
Hopefully they listen to the relevant ones but sometimes they just have to lead to boldly move on from endless debate and discussion.
The introduction of tiered competitions across any range of sports has diminished the status and earning power of teams relegated/placed in the lower divisions. Teams in League of Ireland Div2 (or whatever it's called) are nearly anonymous. The Europa League at the next level has lost all significance bar the semi-finals and finals. The Pro 14 in Rugby has reduced club rugby in Ireland to a few column inches now and again. Even the Secondary European Rugby cup competition that Connacht play in this year barely gets a mention. I could go on and on. Players know when competitions are relevant or not. In this regard history and tradition are important. There is no desire anywhere to turn the All- Ireland Championship into a League where you graduate upwards or downwards based on results. That is what we have in the NFL. But once a year in the championship all teams live in hope. You might find that hope unrealistic for some but it doesn't prevent them trying. Clubs from towns and villages across England enter the FA Cup each year and their chances of beating Dagenham are no more realistic than their chance of beating Man City. The opportunity to pit yourself against the best is what drives them.
#48
Quote from: Rossfan on December 07, 2017, 10:18:54 PM
Ok.
3 Competitions with teams of similar standard would make things more interesting at least.

How is the present system improving football?
More interesting for whom?
The players and counties for whom this is being proposed (by those who would stay in the elite division/s)want nothing to do with it. I'm always wary of groups and individuals who think they know better than I do what's best for me.
#49
Quote from: Rossfan on December 07, 2017, 11:37:49 AM
When was serious hurling not confined to 9 counties?
You'd think Wicklow, Ros etc were competing for Liam McCarthy for years until the tiers were brought in.
Not much "football ambition" in around 20 Counties as it stands.
See Derry where players are not interested in playing for the County.
Wasn't much media coverage of the Carlow v London Qualifier game last Summer.
My point was that a tiered system has not improved hurling and therefore cannot be held up as an exemplar for improving football.
#50
General discussion / Re: Brexit.
December 07, 2017, 11:29:29 AM
#51
Quote from: Rossfan on December 06, 2017, 02:57:10 PM
I see the Tyrone Sec is stealing my ideas - talking about need for tiered AI football Championships while keeping the Provincials as they are.
Please send on the usual fee Mr McCaughey  :D
I'm only surprised that you are surprised at Tyrone running with this idea. The "big" counties would love this. All sponsorship etc would be directed at the top tier counties as all tv & media coverage would be directed in the same way. Has a tiered system in hurling advanced even one of the lesser counties? The system is designed to keep the traditional hurling counties isolated from the rest and allows the Association claim that it is catering for the needs of weaker counties without doing anything for them. Arguably hurling is now confined to 9 counties (all Munster bar Kerry, Kilkenny, Wexford, Dublin and Galway). Offaly, Laois & Antrim have now dropped to a lower level with Kerry, Carlow & Westmeath.  A tired Football championship would ring the death-knell of football ambition in half the counties.
#52
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
December 06, 2017, 10:47:02 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 06, 2017, 04:50:44 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on December 06, 2017, 02:12:36 PM
Kerry County Board report spending over 1 million on team preparation across the various countg teams with over 300000 on the senior footballers. No shortage of moola there
That's not very surprising since it covers all teams in all grades, ladies as well as men's teams. Mayo also spent over €1M on team preparations  in 2016 but that included the cost of fielding all teams, men and ladies, in all grades, replays included.
Travelling expenses take up a huge chunk of mayo's costs every year.  The same may well apply to Kerry also.
Ten of the present Mayo panel live and work/study in Dublin so the cost of ferrying them down to Ballyhaunis or wherever, and back again maybe 4 times a week is considerable.
( I believe that sometimes it's the home-based players who do the traveling as they are brought to Dublin to make use of the specialised facilities that are there. I've been told this but I don't know the details.)
Still, both Kerry and Mayo combined don't spend as much on their seniors as Dublin does. Dublin, if reports from their AGM  are true spent in excess of €1M last year.
Mayo accounts for 2016 showed €1.6 million spent on teams. None of this refers to Mayo Ladies.
#53
GAA Discussion / Re: Your GAA highlight of 2017
December 06, 2017, 10:39:08 PM
Andy Moran in so many was that don't need elaboration.
#54
Quote from: T Fearon on December 06, 2017, 05:06:37 PM
There can be no shared future when one community owes allegiance to Britain and the other to Ireland.Only when these two obsolete ideologies are abandoned and the communities merge to have a common outlook,can a shared future come on to the horizon.
Both communities are members of the EU......does that help?
#56
GAA Discussion / Re: Your GAA highlight of 2017
December 03, 2017, 10:55:55 PM
Quote from: seafoid on December 03, 2017, 08:16:11 PM
Cora Staunton just won her 6th club all Ireland with Carnarcon.  What a legend
As the captaincy passed between players each year she had to wait 15 years to captain the team. Captain in '02 and now 2017. Ní bheidh a leithéid ann aris.
#57
GAA Discussion / Re: Railway cup no more?
December 01, 2017, 07:06:40 PM
What part of "It's dead" don't you get. There is a bigger turn-out for U-10 training on a Saturday morning than there is for this competition. It's not the first competition to die and it won't be the last. It's just changing times. Embrace it.
#58
GAA Discussion / Re: Alan Dillon Retires
December 01, 2017, 10:53:24 AM
There's a tidy "All-Star" corner-back in Westport by the name of "Ringo" who will defend his territory with vigour.

#59
Has O Clochertaigh not left Labour and Green Party before. Seems like many others across many parties he is a Mé Féiner.
#60
Mayo / Re: Mayo Club Football.
December 01, 2017, 12:24:49 AM
Anybody involved in the discussions on league reform tonight?