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Title: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 09, 2006, 11:48:40 PM
Well ...somebody had to start it..  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Guillem2 on November 10, 2006, 09:54:12 AM
Test
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on November 10, 2006, 10:16:34 AM
Anyone at Tullyglass last night for the presentation dinner - saw a couple of posts on the old board that Sidearse made a complete tit out of himself as MC for the night.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 10, 2006, 11:10:43 AM
just checking things work. any changes to the team theis Sunday Slim or are they playing the with the same team? any nerves in the camp? a lot to live up to after us wining it last year
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on November 10, 2006, 11:20:05 AM
The team hasn't been named yet, I'd imagine it will be the same as Sunday last with one change as we got a man red carded.

I'd say the squad was more nervous last week than this week as winning our own championship was the main priority and now that monkeys off the back there is no great pressure.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 10, 2006, 11:38:11 AM
Surely the pressure for the Antrim champs to retain the Ulster Club is still there isn't it? :)
Title: MFC 2006
Post by: aontroim on November 10, 2006, 12:15:46 PM
Dunloy was on the other board posting that St. Galls have been awarded the title.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on November 10, 2006, 12:33:47 PM
Surely the pressure for the Antrim champs to retain the Ulster Club is still there isn't it? :)

hardly  ;D

as said before, anything from here on is a bonus. We'll give it a go yeah but there is no expectancy on Cargin winning Ulster, thats just silly.  :-\

jaysus but them new smilies are crap  >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: davincicode on November 10, 2006, 04:56:11 PM
Just jumping into our section, was at the T/Glass, absolute joke sidebottom should be more careful, forgetting himself and where his origins are.
Title: Slim Outs himself
Post by: passedit on November 10, 2006, 06:41:46 PM
http://p072.ezboard.com/fgaadiscussionboardfrm1.showMessageRange?topicID=10594.topic&start=1241&stop=1256


I'd change that password again if i was you mate.


 :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 10, 2006, 07:04:57 PM
Gall's minors expecting to be playing Monaghan Harps in the Ulster minor I hear from an inside source. Real shame, was hoping they'd offer to play the game. Having experienced it last year, and admittedly it's about as far as my football career will go, it's a special feeling winning on the day.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 10, 2006, 08:18:59 PM
How did someone sneak into your account slim?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on November 10, 2006, 08:46:41 PM
was @ tullyglass..........mr sidebottom won't be invited back methinks.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Queenie on November 11, 2006, 09:40:24 AM
Just Moving across from the Dark side, back soon, good luck Clooney and the Dall!!!!!
Title: Clean Sweep in Provincial Hurling
Post by: aontroim on November 12, 2006, 04:59:23 PM
Congratulations to Clooney Gaels (JHC) and Ruairi Óg (SHC) on making it a clean sweep of Ulster Hurling titles for Antrim Clubs.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: davincicode on November 12, 2006, 07:27:16 PM
Headed to Maghera, thought it was the pick of the Ties, how wrong can you be, absolutly dyre. In saying that i think that this year 06/07 Ballinderry will be too Physical and fit for anyone. Ballinderry for Ulster Title!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 12, 2006, 09:24:45 PM
Rossa camogs getting hot under the collars.

http://www.odonovanrossagac.com/

www.odonovanrossagac.com/petitiontks.asp  - only click on this link if you support their stand.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on November 13, 2006, 05:51:33 AM
Name that club!

Apart from the people whose pitch it is, please name where the photo of the Rossa Girls on the link was taken.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: davincicode on November 13, 2006, 09:24:46 AM
Anyone hear what happened with the Sinn Fienn vote on the St Brides position for the game against the PSNI?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ziggysego on November 13, 2006, 05:04:38 PM
Pictures of Greencastle's win over Ardoyne yesterday in the Ulster Junior Championship are now posted on the Greencastle website.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: becks on November 14, 2006, 10:52:00 AM
Could someone post the county minor football panel, havent got a chance to but the paper yet.
Title: Minor F'ball
Post by: aontroim on November 14, 2006, 11:14:39 AM
This doesnt look to be a panel of 24 so id say it's just a training squad and will be drastically cut in the new year.

P Fitzpatrick; B Lockard; Pierce Cusack; N Mc Alea (Sarsfields)
C Caldwell; J Donnelly (Gort na Mona)
C Heatly; B Rushe; J Ferran (St Pauls)
B Neeson; A Downey (St Johns)
D Birt (Dunloy)
P Graham; T Mc Cann; S Allen; A Maguire; D Mc Cann (Creggan)
N Mc Keever (Portglenone)
C Smyth (Lamh Dhearg)
P Mc Cann (Cargin)
P Fischer; M Jones; N Hawkins(Ardoyne)
L Maguire; S Finch P Magee (Rossa)
C Mc Veigh; K Mc Bride; D Trowlen; M Meleady (Aldergrove)
C Hughes; D kennedy; M Morgan(St Endas)
R Smith (St Malachys)
C Herrity (Lisburn)
M Grahame; PJ O'connell (Ahoghill)
M Magowan; A Gribbon; A Mc Caffery(St Galls)
N Mc Cann; P Gallagher (Glenavy)
C Donnelly; C Mackle; C Mooney; T Mc Crudden (St Brides)

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 16, 2006, 04:21:44 PM
Typical arrogance from Rossa and Ballycastle men. When clubs start realising that they do not have a divine right to stay in a certain league based on what they have done in the past the better. Not so long ago Naomh Gall was relegated, and rightly so, I’m sure our committee at the time tried to argue for staying in Division one but failed. We went down came back up and went on to win 5 Senior Championships in a row and an Ulster championship as well. That was the kick up the arse our club needed. For years Rossa have tried to stay in division one football but finally they were relegated.

Ballycastle have found themselves in a difficult position this year, but are not the worst team. As the league came to a close, they started to win games in October and against teams that could not be bother to turn up at this time of year. With one of there committee men on the Antrim fixtures committee, have they had word of the intended league changes and applied themselves a lot better than they did at the start of the year.
We played them and they came down and played the game as if it were championship. Had we the knowledge of a certain member of their club and the game that we were playing was a relegation play off match then I’m sure Naomh Gall would have played the game at a higher tempo and the result could have been different.

 The county board at the start of the year said one up one down. Like everything they have done this year, they have went back on there word. County games would not control leagues games, lie number one, senior hurling would have reserve games played before them, lie number two. League would be decided by, one up from Division two and one down from division 1, lie number 3. League games would not be called off for silly reasons. Lie number 4.

Dare I say it. but I think the county would be better off if the previous county executive was still in control. If they have any balls, they should stick to there word
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: slow corner back on November 16, 2006, 10:18:34 PM
You have lost me a bit here skull, have new league structures been proposed/ agreed and if so what are they? I think its a bit off the mark to complain about the opposition trying in a league match by the way.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: slow corner back on November 16, 2006, 10:20:10 PM
apologies milltown row, read the St Galls part and assumed u were skull,. I am off to write out "You must pay more attention 300 times"
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 17, 2006, 09:05:40 AM
read the St Galls part and assumed u were skull,.
huh?  :-\

have new league structures been proposed/ agreed and if so what are they?
If its being muted in the halls of power then what can milltown do but complain if they are being kept in the dark about potential changes while other opposition (because of their links) are fully aware of them. This is an unfair advantage


I think its a bit off the mark to complain about the opposition trying in a league match by the way.
So I'm assuming by that scb, that you don't understand the concept of playing league hurling and playing championship hurling and the reasons why the two games are different (although in theory they shouldn't be ....but they just are). If Ballycastle knew they had to beat StGalls to survive in Div 1, this would have given them a championship flavour to the game which St Gall couldn't have had due to the fact that they thought them and everyone else was just playing out the league just to get the match stats up before the County AGM to make things look better for "Antrim Hurling" at a High Level (Croke Park will be praising them for getting all their fixtures completed  :()....I digress ....anyway would you agree that St Gall were at a disadvantage

Feels a bit weird defending St Galls at the minute considering the minor football debarcle. There is nobody blameless in this disaster and Dunloy have to take a large chunk of that for creating the problem, but the fact St Galls turned down the opertunity to give both both sets of players their big day is sickening. Ask a Lamh Dearg player how he feels about the championship he won the year Cargin/StPauls got bucked out? There are no winners here
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on November 17, 2006, 09:13:57 AM
Cargin/St Johns i think it was.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Guillem2 on November 17, 2006, 10:01:26 AM
Good luck to the Rossa Camogs on Sunday in the All Ireland club final. After all the messing about over the venue there's an important match to be won now. Go out and win it!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 17, 2006, 10:07:41 AM
Sorry lads you picked me up on an argument I had with a Rossa man. My point is simple, is it fair to say that if a team knew that an impending change to the leagues was coming and that if they played out there remaining games against teams that did not know there was a change to the structures, would this not come across as underhand?

If we had have had the knowledge of Mr Donnelly who sits on the fixtures committee and is also a Ballycastle man. The skulduggery of it stinks. I have no problems with Ballycastle just the way things have been handled.

Regarding the Dunloy problem. The county board have refused Naomh Gall the game. Speaking to members of the team and some of the management they have said they wanted to play the game. Dunloy had a chance to put their case towards the Ulster council, have they done this appeal? There would be one or two people who have said they don’t want the game played but the majority of players, members, and committee men/ladies want the game to go ahead.

This is the worst situation to be in and as far as I’m concerned we have not won any title. This happened to us against Glenarm many years ago in an Intermediate final and we were at Casement and on the pitch with referee there, and Glenarm didn’t turn up. We asked for the game to be played and played the game. Only won by a point in the last minute but it was well worth it.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on November 17, 2006, 10:31:53 AM
The appeal to ulster council must have been unsuccessful, the dunloy lads don't seem to be training anymore.  dissapointing after a terrific win over lamh dearg to not even get a shot at the match.  Obviously someone in dunloy made this call but it wasn't the players but its them thats being punished.  as are st galls,
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 17, 2006, 11:33:02 AM

Regarding the Dunloy problem. The county board have refused Naomh Gall the game.

Well somebody is lying milltown because I have it on good authority that St Gall were asked twice if they would play the match
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 17, 2006, 11:39:03 AM
The county board did not even ask us to play the game. That’s what I’ve been told. To be fair I’m not in the inner circle but would but would be speaking regularly with the senior members and committee, like I did on Saturday night and that was there answer. They could have been telling me porkies but…the fact of the matter is there was a ball’s up and two sets of lads have missed out and it’s a hollow victory.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 17, 2006, 12:07:58 PM
The county board did not even ask us to play the game. That’s what I’ve been told.

As I've said...someone is lying
Title: Hurling leagues promotion and relegation
Post by: slow corner back on November 17, 2006, 09:58:58 PM
Skull First I apologise for referring to u in  the original post, as I said in my second post, thirty seconds later, I clearly was not paying attention. Secondly I played for a long time and I never once pulled on boots just to go out and fulfill a fixture, there is such a thing as pride in urself and ur jersey and complaining about the opposition trying to hard is a lame excuse. Thirdly anyone with even a fleeting knowledge of Antrim GAA will know that leagues structures are changed almost every year and certainly every second to third year. Yes you are correct to say this is unfair and unjust and my own club has both benifitted and suffered from it in the past as I am sure St Galls have, however it is not a huge surprise.
Anyway my question which no one answered/ knows the answer to is what are the proposed changes and how far down do they go.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 18, 2006, 11:11:12 AM
according to an "Antrim official" it's just hearsay and nothing will be changed. your right I've played every game to win whether it's Guess Who with my kids or hurling. but the fact remains that (and if you had have been there) they had a different degree of intensity in playing that game (ballycastle) if they had have played like that all year then they could have went a lot further than they did.

it's about time the sorted out the hurling leagues properly. the football leagues are a roaring success, even the lower leagues in hurling all the teams seem to be fighting for positions, but the senior league has been a joke for a number of years.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: wondering on November 18, 2006, 11:48:29 AM
wat about these senior football trials has anybody impressed? what does everyone think the team and panel wiil be?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: gaafan123 on November 18, 2006, 12:56:49 PM
who should be antrim captain tis year? if mr mcgourty was elected captain he may curtail his off field antics and prove very beneficial to th team.. wot do u think?
Title: Antrim Captain
Post by: saffronman on November 18, 2006, 01:59:43 PM
giving mc gourty captaincy would make his ego trip even more theatrical, i honest dont know how he could captain a team, any game i have seen him in he has given abuse to every man that makes a mistake and even towards management, this isn't the behaviour of a county captain! i hear he and fellow st galls men havent made a show at trials as yet, interesting!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Queenie on November 19, 2006, 10:09:50 AM
giving mc gourty captaincy would make his ego trip even more theatrical, i honest dont know how he could captain a team, any game i have seen him in he has given abuse to every man that makes a mistake and even towards management, this isn't the behaviour of a county captain! i hear he and fellow st galls men havent made a show at trials as yet, interesting!

I am great believer in the alledged rumour that he,s wrestling with issues of comming out of the Closit, emdrace it kevin it does,nt make you a bad person.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Forgot me Boots on November 19, 2006, 10:21:34 PM
If the St Galls players, or any player for that matter, don't appear for trials and dont get picked will the supporters stand behind the manager for taking a stand? Or will it be a case of we pick the best available and to hell with the boys who go everytime and are prepared to stand up and be counted?

Comments
Title: Hurling Manager
Post by: slow corner back on November 20, 2006, 09:05:48 PM
Any white smoke from Casement yet about the managers job? The decision was meant to be confirmed tonight wasnt it?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on November 21, 2006, 08:05:21 AM
Apologies if I have missed something on this thread before about this but is it the case a few of the St Galls contingent did not attend trials/are not putting themselves forward because of what happened to Culbert?

So anyone in the know - is this a training panel with a view to maybe bringing people on board later in the year/start of the season?

And finally...any word on the hurling?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim abu on November 21, 2006, 10:00:51 AM
It was confirmed last night that sambo and woody have been appointed as the county hurling managers. They won the vote from the floor , which was not as close as a lot of people expected.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 21, 2006, 10:58:06 AM
It was confirmed last night that sambo and woody have been appointed as the county hurling managers. They won the vote from the floor , which was not as close as a lot of people expected.

I thought this was to be decided by a separate committee?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffron on November 21, 2006, 11:07:59 AM
It that not very harsh - I cant claim to know very much about club hurling or the last manager but I go to the majority of the county hurling games and Jim McKernan did everything that was asked of him.

On what basis was this decision made? Is it simply that the position is up for grabs every year? In the interests of continuity this seems a bad decision
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim abu on November 21, 2006, 11:08:09 AM
there was a seperate committee, which was made up of the County chairman and secretary, someone from Creggan and Ahoghill (who seemingly have stated they know nothing about hurling) and 2 others. They made the recommendation that Sambo and Woody get the post, that is how the vote took place.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 21, 2006, 11:25:27 AM
Sorry for my ignorance aontroim abu, but do these committees give their reasons for their selection before the floor vote?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim abu on November 21, 2006, 11:58:04 AM
Sorry skull havent a clue, if anyone out there does please post
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on November 21, 2006, 12:34:11 PM
well i for one will wish the two lads all the best for the antrim senior hurling job, two terrific players in there day, they know how to win in a saffron jersey and will have the respect of most of the players.  good luck indeed,

i do have my concerns, i wonder what Sambo will take the reins, the one who in his Irish News column lambasted Dinny Cahill for the lack of a thriving club scene in Antrim or the Sambo who along with Woody suffocated the life out of the minor competitions this year in pursuit of a big scalp with there talented minor team.

I'm open to correction here, maybe it wasn't there fault only 4 meaningless minor hurling league matches were playd this year, but i been led to believe it was, their preparation of the minor team being to such an extent it prohibited the development of other players

As a club hurler i hope the dog wags the tail this year and we get a thriving club scene, which may very well be for the benefit of the county team.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 21, 2006, 01:14:25 PM
I doubt it very much, i would love to have heard there interview and wheat they promised for the county team, have they got a money backer? and will they have a say in how the county is going to sort out the hurling leagues. also who is taking the minor hurling team?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Quarterback on November 21, 2006, 02:01:23 PM
Kust reading the irishnews during lunch and was appauled at the comments of kevin mc gourty.  To stand up and say that jody gormley will win nothing with the panel he has picked.  Its a disgrace, wat gives him the rite to judge, wat has he don, hes an average fottie player who is a slabber on the field, he appears in the irish news every so ofteh when he says 'boo' I tell ya if he was a tyrone man and he said what he did about micky hartem it would be bye bye mc gourty...Pr**k
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: amninc on November 21, 2006, 02:23:40 PM
Were you from Quarter back??????
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: amninc on November 21, 2006, 02:25:01 PM
Sound like a boy that mc gourty has got the better off.  Hes 100% right in what he is saying maybe stand back and look at your opinions.  Far from an average footballer either, walk onto any ulster team - jealousy is a wonderfull thing.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: cville on November 21, 2006, 02:28:47 PM
McGourty thinks he's Jesus! Too big headed - Nobody is bigger than the County and he is learning!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on November 21, 2006, 02:41:16 PM
Lol, wise up.  McGourty is a decent football player, but he is a mouth and what has he done in the game to warrant slabbering to the irish news week in week out, the fact thats hes a student at his age must contribute to his frequent availability for spouting.  He would not get on the tyrone or armagh teams, and would not get on derry. down or donegals either.  Whats has he done for antrim, Ive never seen him score too much. He was class aginst fermanagh in the championship in 2006 too
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffron on November 21, 2006, 02:53:12 PM
Why was Sambo and Woody given a 3 year term and McKernan only a one year term?

Forgive my ignorance but how does the appointment of Antrim managers work??
Title: Re: amninc
Post by: Quarterback on November 21, 2006, 03:15:50 PM
If anything the younger brother is much more of a talanted player,...Im not jealous of a man that is a nobody....why would i b?  It just annoys me to c a man slabber about his county and new manager....I dont want to read this in the paper....He isnt an excellent player, hes an average player....AVERAGE, and to say that he got the better of me,,,,,i doubt it....Lets just day i havent been sitting watching all ireland finals from behind the box in 03 and 05......
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffronman on November 21, 2006, 03:21:48 PM
As everyone agrees McGourty is a mouth piece and a p***k i dont know him personally but he seems the type who you couldnt like even if you reared him, his outburst in todays paper does not suprise me at all, there'll be plenty more before his career is finished. he is a good footballer, sometimes untouchable but most tmes i have watched him he is more interested in slabbering to the ref and his team mates instead of getting stuck in! Jody is completely right to pick players who are committed to the cause and want to wear the jersey with pride and will not cry off  from training because they are hungover or sitting on a high stool as is the case with the afore mentioned!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Guillem2 on November 21, 2006, 03:31:23 PM
Good luck to Woody & Sambo. They have their work cut out for them. I hope they have a plan. Personnaly I would have stuck with Jingo for another year. He took the job when we were very low and noone else wanted it. He did all he could for the county in the circumstances and now he's been shafted by the clubs. He'd be right to feel bitter.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on November 21, 2006, 03:51:28 PM
Why was Sambo and Woody given a 3 year term and McKernan only a one year term?

Forgive my ignorance but how does the appointment of Antrim managers work??

I think someone posted on here (or the old board) before that if the clubs nominate someone else for the role then the county executive are obliged to look into it and interview all parties again, so IMO  the three year term thing isn't really worth a jot.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on November 21, 2006, 09:33:51 PM
Sambo & Woody were approached by the Antrim players to put their names forward this year - i think that speaks volumes for the high regard Jingo was held in.

Regards the selection committee - the non-hurling members would have every right to be there for a different perspective and if the creggan member is who i'm thinking of then the candidates will have had little chance to try and bullshit their way into the job!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Forgot me Boots on November 21, 2006, 10:11:19 PM
McGourty may shut his mouth, who died and made him captain? Was he prepared to stand up and be counted with all the other Antrim Players, go to training with all the other players, thats the question that needed answered, he has answerd NO he can f**k away off. Give Jody a chance. i posted previously about where peoples loyalities would lat if this sort of thing happened, i know where mine are. If we are to progress we need unity from within the entire countys footballers and sadly at the minute we dont seem to have it.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Guillem2 on November 22, 2006, 08:13:19 AM
Well its done now so all the best to Woody & Sambo in there new positions. What are their aims for next season? Avoid relegation from Div 1 (it will be hard with the re-structuring), win Ulster SHC and win a match in the All Ireland group stage. Who can we beat in the All Ireland? Laois or Dublin at most I'd say.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 22, 2006, 08:23:27 AM
Mc Gourty is only captain of Queens. read the article and there is nothing on it thats out of order. these people phone him up like everybody else at this time of year to fill a column, Kevin is only too willing to spout off. people on this site are over reacting. If he's not playing for Antrim so what!!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffron on November 22, 2006, 08:29:44 AM
Obviously wish Sambo and Woody all the best and hope they can move us forward but if you give someone the job they achieve what was asked of them and then they are immediately replaced what does that say? Is it a pre-requisite that your the players choice cause if so lets just be done with it and ask the squad who they want managing them. But as has been said its done now and  hope it goes well.

Read the Irish News article McGourty says very little in it and was obviously asked for his opinion - he shouldnt give it of course but cant see the big deal this time
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: cville on November 22, 2006, 09:03:40 AM
Is it just me or is the Ulster SHC a dead duck? The sell-by date seems to be up on it... The highlight for me was 1992 - massive crowd - about 20,000 in the sun at CASEMENT .... (OF COURSE THE OFFICIAL ATTENDANCE WAS 12,000) Drumcree in the mid 1990s coincided with th e final and I feel that Antrim have outgrown the competition ... I mean Down have no ambition beyond the Christy Ring Cup... Any views?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: cville on November 22, 2006, 09:06:42 AM
Sorry - just to clarify the Drumcree quote ... The final was played for about 4 years in a row on Drumcree Sunday and the crowds were well down and the atpmosphere was unreal.... The Ulster Hurling Final has yet to recover it's sense of occasion .. The Saturday night final in 2003 is another thing...
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on November 22, 2006, 10:42:02 AM
Is it just me or is the Ulster SHC a dead duck? The sell-by date seems to be up on it... The highlight for me was 1992 - massive crowd - about 20,000 in the sun at CASEMENT .... (OF COURSE THE OFFICIAL ATTENDANCE WAS 12,000) Drumcree in the mid 1990s coincided with th e final and I feel that Antrim have outgrown the competition ... I mean Down have no ambition beyond the Christy Ring Cup... Any views?

The Ulster championship lost its meaning when it stopped becoming a stepping stone to the full AI series. Now it is a meaningless competition which is good to win, but that's it.

Down are only competitive at Christy Ring level at the minute and hopefully Antrim with their greater resources will make inroads into the qualifying series of the Liam McCarthy and I'm not talking about beating Laois or Dublin, but Offaly or Limerick is who Terrence and Dominic should to aspiring to.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim abu on November 22, 2006, 01:04:10 PM
the ulster championship is done, even with Armagh joining next year to make another game. would be interested in hearing everyones views on the idea Sambo had a while back about Antrim joining the Leinster championship. what about joining senior only, or at all levels? obviously this will ruin hurling in Ulster but as he said at the time Antrim people have to be selfish and look after their own house
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffron on November 22, 2006, 02:11:20 PM
The same was asked of Galway and they dont seem keen - they've also remained more or less competitive in a province with only themselves - what happens to the Ulster Championship then?

Given the constant complaints about club hurling in Antrim on this board are we not better off seeing were an improvement in the club hurling structures takes us before we decide
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: BottleOfStout on November 22, 2006, 02:11:36 PM
Absolutely,  this years events killed the Ulster Championship.  I believe it is irrevelant to Antrim now.   The heady days of  the early 90s couldl only be repeated if Antrim and Down and / or Derry can get relatively competitive at All-Ireland level and even then with no connection between Ulster Championship and All-Ireland it has no purpose.  Maybe the the 10000-15000 crowns would return ( 20000 never happened)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: cville on November 22, 2006, 03:01:55 PM
Ref - 20,000 at Ulster Hurling Final? Try this one for size

http://www.sportsfile.com/fotoweb/Preview.fwx?position=2&archiveType=ImageFolder&sorting=ModifiedTimeAsc&search=jim%20close&fileId=4C3ABA64E9D5C430719D19E637E06F040B41EBD67AFD4DB45349769D3DA29DA5FC788D58B16C1545D9DFF19DCC0CAFF51CD2FE7937D6917B92F2CC2E300E

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: cville on November 22, 2006, 03:04:00 PM
Sorry - link may be dead .. go to google, enter sportsfile ie, enter as guest, type in Jim Close - it's the black and white one
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 22, 2006, 04:28:28 PM
McKernan astonished at snub
 
Antrim hurling manager Jim McKernan
22 November 2006


Jim McKernan has issued a statement criticising the Antrim county board for failing to ratify him for a second year as senior hurling manager despite leading the Saffrons to Christy Ring and Ulster success.

McKernan was overlooked by the county board in favour of Sambo McNaughton and Dominic McKinley, despite an excellent debut year as manager in 2006.

“To say I am extremely disappointed is an understatement, I am totally astonished not to be allowed to implement year two of our three-year strategy after a very successful year which we exceeded all expectations and targets,” said McKernan.

“The addition of Mick O’Connell to our management team makes the decision by the county board even more difficult to accept. My record stands for itself. Last year no one wanted this job when Antrim was in decline, it was a poisoned chalice, it had no viable vision or go forward strategy. This position has been turned round and now the players and supporters and my management team can hold our heads high.

“At the start of the year Antrim Hurling was in turmoil, they were relegated from the Liam McCarthy Cup, player confidence was decimated, and the team was in decline,” said Kernan, who went on to point out that under his managerial reign the county retained their place in the NHL Division 1 with wins over Galway and Laois, ran All-Ireland champions Kilkenny to two points, won the Christy Ring Cup, claimed the Ulster SHC and reached all the targets set out by the county board at the start of the year.

“If the selection process was based on achievements, track record and effort then I cannot understand the county board’s decision not to install us for another year, but that is in the past.

“I would like to personally thank my management team and players for their commitment and professionalism especially to Paul McKillen and Paul Boyle without whom our achievements would not have been met. It is with great regret that we were not allowed to achieve our full potential as a management team thus preventing us delivering Antrim into a top eight position in the country in 2007.

“Finally as a true Antrim man I would like to offer my sincere best wishes to the new senior hurling management team and I hope they achieve the goals that we had set for 2007 season.”

 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on November 22, 2006, 04:38:02 PM
Sorry - link may be dead .. go to google, enter sportsfile ie, enter as guest, type in Jim Close - it's the black and white one

On a side note, i think that caption is wrong. That certainly isn't Danny Hughes in the picture for two reason. Danny always wore a red helmet, that guy thrashing weeds isn't wearing any and secondly Down were sponsored by either Kirsten Hunick (sp) or the Ulster bank in 92 and there's no sponsor on the jerseys. My guess it is the minor game the same day.

The point about the crowds is right though, they were far larger then and maybe the odd exception in recent years most notably was the year of the draw and replay, possibly two to three years ago now when a decent crowd turned up.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Guillem2 on November 22, 2006, 05:57:14 PM
Impressive crowd alright but Johnnycool is right. Didn't Danny Hogg ware a beard around that time. That isn't Jim Close either.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: cville on November 22, 2006, 06:35:15 PM
I think you're right on the photo - my guess would be 1991 - as that was the last year they both had the old style jerseys ... 92 the year Down won was the biggest crowd - although the 1995 draw was up there also... since then it has lost any sense of value ... Just think that 1992 was the peak of the Ulster revival ... you recall that the previous summer Antrim fell to Kilkenny in an epic ... also that year Antrim played Down in November in a top of the table clash in Division one of the league... On the stand side and at the concrete behind the goal you couldn't turn a sweet in your mouth ... Now at Casement it's just the die-hards... 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 22, 2006, 08:15:57 PM
I  think Jody would need to get the likes of McGourty on his side as he's one of their potential matchwinners with a few good years ahead of him. I actually thought Conor may have received the call-up.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 23, 2006, 10:06:38 AM
how disd creggan get 8 on the squad
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim abu on November 23, 2006, 10:09:32 AM
Impressive crowd alright but Johnnycool is right. Didn't Danny Hogg ware a beard around that time. That isn't Jim Close either.
you're 100% right that isnt Jim Close. it is the minor game from 1992 and it is Joe Boyle form Rossa playing for Antrim, dont know who the Down player is
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: cville on November 23, 2006, 10:17:37 AM
JUST TO REFRESH - ANTRIM DOWN GAME CASEMENT 1992 - GO TO SPORTSFILE IRELAND - TYPE IN JIM CLOSE - LOOK AT THE B W PHOTO...

Agree that it's not Jim Close... agree that it is the 92 minor final ... I had expressed the view that the Ulster Hurling Final once attracted near 20,000 people.... 92 was the biggest ever.... not a kick in the arse off it!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on November 23, 2006, 10:21:14 AM
oneill, i think its time you removed your tongue from Sean McGourty's hole. Ok, you work with the scruffy tr**p-big deal. Connor McGourty for the Senior team? Get a f**king grip. He needs 2 more years before looking at it.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim abu on November 23, 2006, 10:26:05 AM
JUST TO REFRESH - ANTRIM DOWN GAME CASEMENT 1992 - GO TO SPORTSFILE IRELAND - TYPE IN JIM CLOSE - LOOK AT THE B W PHOTO...

Agree that it's not Jim Close... agree that it is the 92 minor final ... I had expressed the view that the Ulster Hurling Final once attracted near 20,000 people.... 92 was the biggest ever.... not a kick in the arse off it!
ok ok cville - calm your jets before you burst a blood vessel. FFS im only pointing out who really is in the photo
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: cville on November 23, 2006, 10:26:51 AM
Thanks for that ...
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Antrim__Lad on November 23, 2006, 12:15:38 PM
Impressive crowd alright but Johnnycool is right. Didn't Danny Hogg ware a beard around that time. That isn't Jim Close either.
you're 100% right that isnt Jim Close. it is the minor game from 1992 and it is Joe Boyle form Rossa playing for Antrim, dont know who the Down player is

yep, its not Jim Close, it is Joe Boyle from Rossa.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on November 23, 2006, 12:26:25 PM
Slim,
i agree that Cj not ready for county senior but u can say the same thing about crozier and tomas mccann
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on November 23, 2006, 12:29:04 PM
Mickey Culbert didnt agree when he had them playing in his last few games!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on November 23, 2006, 12:35:46 PM
Your boy cj could be good, give him a year or too. He did well for ur minors this year, but there has been a few more impressive minors around ulster in recent years who havent went straight into senior teams.  As for the older fella, well hes a different story.
I agree that maybe there shud be more st galls players there.  But this mcgourty debate is frustrating.  Yes he maybe shud be on the panel, but to say he wud get on any team in ulster and be many's main man is nonsense.  He has done very little for antrim to suggest differently, and u can hardly read alot into university football. Fair dues, it is good standard, but scoring a few points in a uni match against hung-over players a few years younger than urself doesnt make u great.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on November 23, 2006, 12:43:01 PM
ur right, culberts last few games...in the tommy murphy cup!! when the only players for selection were the 1's who could be bothered!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Frank The Tank on November 23, 2006, 04:03:36 PM
Slim

It's fair to say that the McGourtys are not everyone's cup of tea. But if you have to resort to scummy remarks like that it doesn't say much for you.

My advice to you kido, as one of the characters of this site, is to stop giving them so much bloody air time!
I will just this once.

Kevin McGourty has never produced for Antrim. Why? Because you need a different mentality at that level. Conor McG is an exciting talent. Will he produce at Inter-County Senior level or will he throw toys out of the pram at every opportunity like big bro?
Already showing signs of serious arrogance, I fear the worst.   
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 23, 2006, 05:02:10 PM
oneill, i think its time you removed your tongue from Sean McGourty's hole. Ok, you work with the scruffy tr**p-big deal. Connor McGourty for the Senior team? Get a f**king grip. He needs 2 more years before looking at it.

Good man Slim, some things never change. Luckily enough, I've been living in Antrim for almost a decade now and know that you represent the 1% that give the county a bad name. I think if you ask Sean McGourty he'll tell you he'd prefer to throttle me for some of the things I've posted on here, but he'll not get the chance as I don't work with him, which, as you say, is a big deal?

Finally, from what I've seen, young Conor is the most exciting forward in Antrim football right now, light years ahead of many of his older contemporaries in terms of class. Not many have scored 0-2 in an All-Ireland Club Final. Not many have landed the best point of the day against Nemo Rangers...and that's before the age of 18. He's young (18/19?), but he's good enough. I can't think of one Antrim county forward I'd have before him.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 24, 2006, 12:23:15 AM
Flipping back to hurling

What opinions do you (who are interested) have on the following questions

With Jingo not going quietly, this has obviously added to the pressure Sambo and Woody will be under to deliver the goods next year. What I would like to understand is

1. What are the goods which they need to deliver? What I mean is, has a definition of "SUCCESS" been defined for them or more importantly, has a definition of "SUCCESS" been defined for Antrim hurling and is there a possibility that the those two objectives if they exist (which I have to admit I don't believe they do) are opposed to each other, thereby making FAILURE inevitable at AT LEAST one level if not two?

2. Taking these questions forward, what are your expectations of the Div 1 club league next year? (even after this years disaster..which the County board are still making excuses for)

3. How many of you believe that the number of intercounty matches in the summer months and the subsequent lack of club matches is directly ruining the game for the local communities?

4. Have you any suggestions to improve the current situation with club matches(which has existed for 10 years or more)?

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 24, 2006, 08:49:08 AM
1.   here are my views for what it’s worth:

With the amount of posts on various sites (Hogan stand, Antrim site, and this one) and from club players the County will have to improve the leagues or it will be the only thing that the County board will be remembered for. I’m hoping against hope that they fix the leagues this year.

12 teams for division one, two way league if reserve games are to be played then all teams need to have two teams, Glenariff need to have two teams. These games have to be played on a Sunday. Games against local teams can both be played during the bright nights, not like we had this year when we were fixed to play Portaferry, Cushendall, and Ballygalget, mid week when there was no chance of two games being played. Hosting clubs should put on a spread for fans coming down and put on discount prices for players for a couple of pints (drivers can have coke….cola) this will hopefully bring back the craic the clubs had years ago. During the period that the north Antrim Feis is on the Belfast teams should run off a competition with senior hurling teams from Belfast, division one teams to not play their county players.

If we are leaving the reserve teams out this year then the reserve teams to be dropped down into division 2 with two leagues open draw at the start of the year and games to be played on a Friday night or Monday night. This should free up fringe players of the senior panel to be available for their senior teams on the Sunday (a senior team needs 5 to 6 subs to be competitive otherwise players think they are guaranteed a place on the team)

Championship should be a straight knockout. Reserve teams play the same team before the senior game. Means players wont play both.

We wrap up the county players in cotton wool before big games, if Sambo and Woody have a panel of players fighting for each position then there is no need to have this 7 or 10 day rule stopping games, absolute madness, the county players need competitive games before the intercounty games, if they get injured there should be players chomping at the bit to get on and impress. I could go on have to start work now…
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on November 24, 2006, 08:53:48 AM
Where did I say CJ wasn't a quality prospect? No doubt he is and given time will be a top class player. Throwing an 18 year old lad in at the deep end against fully grown men is a surefire way to get them wrecked. Sure, keep him and his likes on the U21's and let him play a full year with his own senior team before making the giant step from Inter County minor to Senior!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 24, 2006, 01:41:23 PM
players like donnie brennan of laois have done it before.clarke wasnt much older when he startted playing for armagh,and no offence but it would be alot harder to break into these teams than antrim from what i have saw of their most recent panel
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on November 24, 2006, 05:01:25 PM
theskull1

my own thoughts on the matter is, as i suspect is your own.  that the success for antrim hurling and sucess of the antrim hurlers are two mutually exclusive objectives (esp under this management).  For Sambo and Woody to be successful they will seek to bring the level of preparation up that of many of the top southern teams.  I don't think they will quantify success in games won but in the competitiveness the antrim team bring in each game, training and preparation will go to a new level.

success for antrim hurling i believe to be something different, i remember a time going to club hurling matches every other sunday, the crowds were fantastic the atomsphere great and me as a person who played football first became more and more involved in hurling.  to my mind that is success and has been missing for a few years.  Success is a thriving club scene. 

can a club scene thrive with the sheer amount of time required for the county team to succeed.  hence i believe its one or the other or neither

as for what i suspect will happen next year, not entirely sure but i don't expect regular matches, possibly 3/4 matches in quick succession then nothing for months
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling sucess
Post by: slow corner back on November 24, 2006, 09:37:01 PM
What represents success for Woody and Sambo
Minimum, Win at least one of the regular 5 NHL matches and be competitive in the other 4 ie loose by 5/6 points at most. This would place Antrim in Div 2 for the 2008 season. Championship Win Ulster and in group stages win at least one game and be competitive in other two
Moderate, Win two national league games, we would still end up in Div 2 and win one championship game and loose second by 1 point/ dodgy ref, list any of our usual excuses
Real sucess Gain place in Div 1 for 2008, eight team league remember. Qualify for all ireland quarter final. I am not holding my breath.

Leagues
I have always favoured eight team leagues as we had a few years back played home and away. So what if Rossa and Ballycastle drop into Div 2 they are not that good at present, that would give us
Div 1 Loughgiel,C,Dall,Portaferry, Ballycran,Ballygalget,Glenarriffe,Dunloy, St Johns
Div 2 St Galls,Rossa, Ballycastle,Lamh dearg, Stpauls, Sarsfields, C,Dun,Tir Na Og
Div 3 Carey, Gorts,Glenarm,Armoy,Glenravel,McDs,Ahoghill,St Endas,
These would be competitive leagues with every1 fighting to get promoted or avoid relegation. We need something at stake in games. You could certainly attempt reserve leagues for Div 1 and 2 even if they were only played on a one way basis, I would expect a lot of midweek games and u cant play senior and reserve on a wednesday night, altough you could play reserve games midweek before county matches so maybe home and away?
Leagues to be played during April, May, June and July. August set aside for group championship as per this year which I thought was quite good.
And before any of u ask I just relegated my own club to div 3

Will any of this come to fruition, probably not as there are too many vested intrests, Ballycastle do not want to be in Div2 in their centenary year for one and Sambo and Woody will probably ban hurling for 4 months of the year. Heres hoping I am wrong about them.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 25, 2006, 11:52:59 PM
you have backed up my conspiracy theory, Ballycastle have been trying to win games to stay up as they know of the impending leagues changes.

thats a competitive league slow corner back but we can still have a ten team two way league that would be competitive. Ulster hurling league could be played in April and march then leagues start in may and championship august.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Frank The Tank on November 27, 2006, 11:38:54 AM
Re: Club Management Appointments

After the recent appointment of MM at Creggan, it seems that Antrim Club Football is an attractive proposition after all.
Has any one heard of any other possible appointments?? Are St.Galls staying internal?

Any truth to the rumour, Delargy is taking Portglenone? 39 steps; you are bound to know?

Are the newly promoted Gort na mona and moneyglass gona break the bank too?
Will Cargin keep JC for another year? Have a feeling this marriage could end up like Josies posterior i.e. Rather pear shaped!!

Replies.........
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 27, 2006, 01:21:01 PM
You've actually checked out Josies ass???  :-[

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Frank The Tank on November 27, 2006, 02:01:21 PM
Is that the best reply you can come up with skull?

very poor form........folklore has it when once Josie was asked in arby's carpark after a disco:

"What are ye Josie, a man or a woman"? Josie replied.......

"What the fxck does that look like ye wnker?"    as she produced a mamoth of an unshaven punani..........

Josie subject closed.


Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on November 27, 2006, 02:02:55 PM
*shudders*

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 27, 2006, 05:12:18 PM
Well I always heard the one about her propositioning a fella outside arbys one night

"Curt me or I give you a kickin'" she said
after short consideration he replies
"I'll take the kickin'"  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: slow corner back on November 27, 2006, 09:33:59 PM
In reply to Milltown,
You may well be right about Ballycastle and the league changes I am from Armoy and would not be that up to speed with what they are up to. I just liked the eight team leagues because they were very competitive and when we were good enough for the second division we were involved in a lot of good competitive matches. Personal highlight beating Loughgiel in Loughgiel which has only happened once in my lifetime with Armoy and is unlikely to happen again for a very very long time
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 27, 2006, 10:00:42 PM
How are things in Armoy in relation to hurling SCB? What are your numbers like at the  juveniles levels? Have you got interested coaches? We don't tend to hear too much about what's going on armoy yet we're only a few miles away
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: slow corner back on November 27, 2006, 10:11:53 PM
Things are at a pretty low ebb up here. We dropped to the junior championship this year and could not even win it. I am not taking anything away from Ahoghill who beat us well on the day but its not that many years since we used to be winning that championship with our reserves.
As for the juveniles we have been unable to field an underage team as Armoy for about six years now. We combined with Carey to form Glenshesk at underage but even then sometimes struggle to get teams out. As for our underage coaching, there are some good people involved with Glenshesk but if I was being totally honest I suspect that since Glenshesk formed Carey have pulled more than 50% of the weight in mentoring team organising etc.
Basically we have spent 10-15 years improving our club rooms, pitch car park etc etc which are now very good. Unfortunately if you put all your effort into that there is not a lot left for coaching players as is evidenced by our league performances
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on November 28, 2006, 12:44:32 AM
In fairness SCB, I think too many administrations are becoming more and more interested in faciities and are neglecting the most important area within their clubs..development of young people within their community. I have noticed this within my own club and it has had a noticable affect. I think it's time the penduleum swung the other way.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on November 28, 2006, 01:15:43 AM
Have to agree with you skull. I was thinking exactly the same this week.
Title: Re: hugh mcgettigan
Post by: goldenyears on November 28, 2006, 10:32:24 AM
folks, can anyone give me a background or opinion on hugh mcgettigan? he was a selector under brian white? whats his coaching/managerial capability etc etc. thanks
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on November 28, 2006, 10:33:50 AM
he managed Creggan there for a few years before they got Mickey Moran in. He didnt win anything with them but i wouldnt read much into that as they're shite.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffronman on November 28, 2006, 10:42:26 AM
slim thats a bit of cargin shite talk, to be fair to creggan they havent the selection of players that other big clubs like yours have but their committed to the jersey and want to improve. i thought mcgettigan did as much as he could with the players available to him.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on November 28, 2006, 10:45:56 AM
don't get me wrong, I've seen McGettigan in action close hand and think he's a good manager-his man management is excellent. Top bloke.

However, Cargin shite talk it is not, Creggan are shite. Though they have 8 players on the County Panel at the minute so who knows!!  ;D :D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on November 29, 2006, 12:44:24 PM
under 21's this weekend, who's left in it? is it at semi final stage with us, Gort na Mona, St Galls and St Johns or is there more?

Gallsman are u playing? its all a bit farcical playing it in December like. typical  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Gnevin on November 29, 2006, 12:48:21 PM
Whats a realistic goal the Antrim hurlers this year ?
Title: Casement Park Social Club
Post by: reiteoir on November 29, 2006, 02:25:00 PM
I hear that the Casement Social Club meeting was held last night and there are a few members looking to break away from the County Board. The County Chairman is always the Chairman of Casement and the Secretary and Treasurer are also the County Secretary and Treasurer, well these boys want to be able to fill these posts themselves. That means then that the GAA will have no control over the place. From what I can gather the County solicitor got involved.

The way I see it is that if these boys take Casement Social club away from the control of the GAA then they should be turfed out as the money generated by the club is used for our teams.

I admit my opinion is based on third hand info but the ring leader is a real shit stirrer. Anybody know the craic?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 29, 2006, 02:58:21 PM
Minors are playing in the Ulster Competition at St Pauls. Not sure if the Jonnies game is on. Cant believe the county did not sort out the minor final……Hollow victory
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 30, 2006, 02:40:45 AM
U21? Slim, the last I heard of the U21 was back in August when we beat Aldergrove and reckoned the semi with the Johnnies would be the following week. Haven't heard a f**king thing since! I'm coming home for the minor game this weekend, lots of lads still there from our wonder team last year, hopefully they can go further!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 01, 2006, 09:57:07 AM
does any1 know what the craic is with the res champ! were sarfields chucked out ?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 01, 2006, 10:15:18 AM
also i heard the other nite that frank delargy is the new portglenyin boss an paddy mcneill who trained the county seniors last year, is training them. u heard it here first !!
heard hugh mcgettigan has been approached bout a few jobs aswell!
anyone else hear any news of new managers in the county, who will be takin galls next year, mcgourtys da maybe?
Title: You heard it here first - I don't think so
Post by: Sausalito Bay on December 01, 2006, 12:22:32 PM
also i heard the other nite that frank delargy is the new portglenyin boss an paddy mcneill who trained the county seniors last year, is training them. u heard it here first !!
heard hugh mcgettigan has been approached bout a few jobs aswell!
anyone else hear any news of new managers in the county, who will be takin galls next year, mcgourtys da maybe?

I have a feeling this won't be happening if what I've heard is true, mind you you couldn't make it up. According to our chairman, this Delargy fella approached one of our "stars" asking him to move to Portglenone and he would pay him expenses! Disgraceful you might think, but it gets funnier.

Apparently Delargy didn't even have the job confirmed when this happened, and Portglenones committee found out what he had been doing they promptly ruled him out of the running (to their credit). This came from a call from the Portglenone secretary to our chairman to let him know they knew nothing about Delargys tapping up so I'd say its true enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 01, 2006, 12:33:49 PM
and where would you be from? at least til we guess the 'star'
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Sausalito Bay on December 01, 2006, 12:46:34 PM
Wouldn't be a million miles from yourselves Slim, so that makes it one of three. Don't particularly want to say much more than that.
Title: Re: You heard it here first - I don't think so
Post by: johnjoe on December 01, 2006, 01:24:44 PM
also i heard the other nite that frank delargy is the new portglenyin boss an paddy mcneill who trained the county seniors last year, is training them. u heard it here first !!
heard hugh mcgettigan has been approached bout a few jobs aswell!
anyone else hear any news of new managers in the county, who will be takin galls next year, mcgourtys da maybe?

I have a feeling this won't be happening if what I've heard is true, mind you you couldn't make it up. According to our chairman, this Delargy fella approached one of our "stars" asking him to move to Portglenone and he would pay him expenses! Disgraceful you might think, but it gets funnier.

Apparently Delargy didn't even have the job confirmed when this happened, and Portglenones committee found out what he had been doing they promptly ruled him out of the running (to their credit). This came from a call from the Portglenone secretary to our chairman to let him know they knew nothing about Delargys tapping up so I'd say its true enough.


hello,
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 01, 2006, 01:35:54 PM
hello to you too johnjoe have u something to say!!

i thought the only stars there were in the portglenyin area were the ones in the sky over the winter!haha
so is delargy not manager then. heard thru the grapevine that woody had asked p mcneill to train the hurlers !

slim is jc takin yunes next year again, wud hope so from ur point o view, gud man for the job!
what bout the 2 tirnaog men join m'glass any truth in it!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 01, 2006, 02:09:13 PM
Boyd is for Moneyglass, who else?

I'd imagine Sausalisto Bay is from Whitehill  ;)

and the star player in Question is Michael Magill  ;)

I mean, come on-Creggan players wont be leaving, especially their stars now that Morans there. And Moneyglass, well, they have Brady and thats it but he'd have gone before now if he was going to go at all.

Tir na nog man then Sausalisto?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 01, 2006, 02:30:22 PM
i heard boyd and phelim mccloskey are for mg
so magill is the star, so thats an amalgimation of poprtglenyin,greenlough,bellaghy reserves and now randytown.
what wud magill do for hurling then ! spose he cud play for the geraldines!haha

hi slim c yous r playin 4 matches this w/end
under16,minor,u21 an mccormick cup
so goin for dec, spose u fancy ur chances in all 4
r u playin
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on December 01, 2006, 02:37:07 PM
culchy,
what Greenlough players play for portgleonone? i cant think of any
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 01, 2006, 02:52:02 PM
Gort na Mona wont be easy beat in the U21's, a great minor side from 2 years ago coming through. Stinsons minors already beat our boys not so long ago, hard to fancy us in that one either.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 01, 2006, 03:00:42 PM
Hello to you too Culchie. just trying to get the swing of this...new to the board and all that!

Magill wouild be a good catch for portglenone,his club are going nowhere fast! Wasnt it his mother, Mairead Mc atamney that put portglenone on the map? Would that not be a basis for a move to a club with better aspirations? Personally dont agree with the expenses thinng, tho Id imagine throughout the country there are expenses paid for travelling longer distances, etc.

What about Boyd or Mc Cluskey. Will they be an addition to mg. Heard Boyds name mentioned in despatches, but what kind of player is mc cluskey? And why all the talk about Randalstown players on the move. Whats the crack with that?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Sausalito Bay on December 01, 2006, 03:08:19 PM
You should change your name to Columbo Slim. I was talking to the man in question at lunchtime and he says this delargy clown was asking McVeigh from Ballymena and some Kilrea boy to go to Portglenone as well.  I'd say he'll have trouble getting a managers job when clubs hear how he operates.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 01, 2006, 03:33:03 PM
ok 'thatthefootball' i was slightly exagerating!

mcloskey is a halfback not 4 bad
probably better than what they have at the min, his older brother plays for them.

so does delargy think roman abramovich is fuelin the ship or what
sean doc wud have tay sell a hell o alot o pretties b4 they can afford you then slim!! ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on December 01, 2006, 03:37:16 PM
Thatsthe football....greenlough dont have any players...period
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 01, 2006, 04:14:33 PM
Sausilito boy, if you believe everything that Magill tells you, you will up as big an eejit as he is!

And seeing youre from the over-achieving hotbed of Tir Na Nog, whats the crack with all these players leavin. Rats deserting a sinking ship comes to mind. Do you play yourself?

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 01, 2006, 04:29:31 PM
very funny max !!haha

sausy it wasnt one of those 3hour liquid lunch flexi half day things that all good civil servants get on a friday
that u were talkin 2 'the star' durin. spose the w/end up there starts on a weds nite in the bot!!

talkin of clowns, an theres enuf o them round portglenyin, delargy obviously doesnt have any faith in the squad
that portglenyin already have.
mcveigh wud hardly leave the mena, he half mccann is he not, as for any kilrea man joinin them i'd very much doubt it.
kilrea have a very gud up an comin team. that wud be like slim leavin toome 4 tirnaog./
Title: Portglenyins
Post by: johnjoe on December 01, 2006, 05:22:05 PM
Delargy might have overstepped the mark looking for Magill, but he would still be a good appointment for portglenone. Sure Culchie, didnt he do a decent job at Kilrea, and could hold his head up after a year at the loup. After all the big hullobo and fuss( and ok, he shouldnt have been poaching, but theres not a word about Boyd and Mc Cluskey leaving the same club) maybe he will tell them to shove the job! Im sure it wont change his life!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 01, 2006, 06:10:17 PM
ye he did do a very gud job way loup they were beat by an excellent ballinderry team
dont think kilrea were that impressed by him though, thats not to say h cudnt do a job for ports

anyone herd any other rumours bout managers/players
heard glenravel an rasharkin are lookin for mcgettigan to take them !
Title: managers
Post by: johnjoe on December 04, 2006, 10:11:37 AM
Culchie, nothing for or against Delargy, but his Kilrea record was particulary impressive. Something like 19th to 5th in three seasons! Three years at any club is a long time, and you arnt going to be everyones friend at the end of it, so it would depend on who you were talking too. How they do last year without him? If he cant resolve his differences with Portglenone, then I cant see him struggling to find a decent club. There isnt exactly a large queue out there of people qualified to do these jobs, or willing to take all sorts of abuse from all sorts of people! Portglenones loss could be someone elses gain!
Hugh Mc gettigan is a great lad, good coach, organiser and motivator, but he would need to be very keen, or the money would need to be very good to take Glenravel or Rasharkin. JC back in at Cargin. Mc Toal hard at it already at St Pauls. Moran at Creggan.Any word out there at St Galls or Lamd Derg?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 04, 2006, 10:27:05 AM
JC back in is he?! You know more than I do JohnJoe. It hasn't been confirmed but I expect it to happen all the same.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 04, 2006, 12:22:26 PM
Slim, was talking to a top Cargin man last nite and as you say, JC is nailed on for another year - unless he dosent want it, and that dosent sound like john charles, does it!

On another subject, sounds like CJ had some game yesterday. Have to say he is a real talent. Milltown,how good was he yesterday, and one more question. Would you have won without him?

Finally, see the milky bar kid is back in town. Is this a step forward or backwards, or does no-one really give a xxxx!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 04, 2006, 12:30:59 PM
did anything come outta the county convention in toome yesterday !
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 04, 2006, 12:42:16 PM
Was not at match yesterday, Christmas tree going up and all that, but was in club that night lads said that the weather played a big part in the game, the Naomh Gall lads dealt with it better. CJ apparently scored his best goal every. I’d say that this team that’s playing in the St Paul’s tournament is not the best that we have had over recent years but they could do better than the teams of the past. CJ is a big part of the team but they are not a one man team. He only plays on the full forward line, the ball needs to put up there. Burkey, Harbinson, Gribben and a few others make this team solid.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on December 04, 2006, 01:34:13 PM
Delargy was seen as a clown in the Loup, explaining why he is not there this year. Ye would think that if he was decent and after getting to a county final his services would have been retained.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 04, 2006, 01:57:55 PM
Max, sure every Antrim person is seen as ac clown in Derry football. Thats just typical of your arrogant Derry attitude. the same one that saw your own club STUFFED by St galls last year. Didnt Delargy take an Antrim u-21 team down to the Loup earlier last year and bossed Derry about like rag dolls. Incidentally was talking to Paul Mc Flynn recently and he said that Delargy wasnt popular at times at the Loup because he tried to change their style of play, but overall he was "quite good" and finished strongly. No matter what, after a year there he would surely be a better all round manager for the experience.
100 posts in a few weeks, Max. You must be one really sad f**k. Now do us all a favour and f**k off back to the Derry board, or we will go on there and talk about all the crap Derry coaches working in Antrim. By the way, whats your own managerial CV like?

Good to see St Galls fly the flag for Antrim yesterday. Think we should all get behind them for the St Pauls tournament.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on December 04, 2006, 02:03:52 PM
your own club STUFFED by St galls last year.

Two points in an Ulster final is hardly a stuffing. St Galls are a good team.It was a close fought game with our keeper handing the galls a goal that made the difference. Enlighten me as to the successful club you reside in.  I never said anything in my last post about Antrim...R u delargy in deguise...very tou
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 04, 2006, 02:16:40 PM
I agree, an unwritten rule of the board should be you cant slag off someones club and not reveal what club you're from yourself.

So, JohnJoe, either shite or get off the pot!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 04, 2006, 02:49:47 PM
was just wonderin, what does anyone think the county team wud be next year if u had 2 pick it from the trainin panel?

heres my startin fifteen!

1. s mcgreevy , 2.s mcveigh , 3.a mclean , 4.j loughrey , 5. t scullion , 6.p doherty , 7.s devlin , 8.j quinn , 9. m mccann , 10. c close , 11.k brady , 12. j crozier , 13. p cunningham , 14. m dougan , 15. m rea.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 04, 2006, 02:54:01 PM
not a bad team, havent seen much of this guy rea though i hear he's good.

Dont be surprised if Crozier doesnt attend the panel at all. He's still playing the club season and has had a hectic year, might need a break.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 04, 2006, 03:14:05 PM
Slim, Crozier was on fire earlier in the year, but he has def been quiet in recent games. Was on the missing list against Clontibret and the Lamhs. Bit of class, but def needs a few months rest.

Close a RFF not a no 12, play Cunningham as FF. Dougan there or thereabouts if he puts the work in, and Magill a cert if he really wants it. No Niblock either, thats strange, he is an unreal ball winner, but I suppose he didnt go to the trials! Paul Doc better at Full back, and dont be surprised if Tony Convery is back after Christmas fer CHB. Was Sean Kelly on that team?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 04, 2006, 03:29:45 PM
sorry johnjoe why are u questionin the selection- my startin fifteen from the trainin panel as in the one that jody gormley pook from those who attended trainin eg. 8 from creggan and 3 from stgalls. as for magill he 2 busy gettin his agent 2 get him a bigger signin on fee from portglenyin, think a years supply of buckfast shud clinch the deal!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 04, 2006, 03:44:36 PM
Aidso Gallagher is on the team now
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 04, 2006, 04:10:27 PM
Culchie, with respect, Magill is training with panel presently, as far as i know anyway. But he will be missing on the tough training nights as his previous form suggests. Milltown posted Aidso is back too, so dont be surprised if there are a few more additions, like Convery, Niblock etc. Also, Slim, any truth Gerard O Boyle could be on the way back for youse next year? Got that one on good authority too!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 04, 2006, 04:12:47 PM
O'Boyle was on a year out of football, so I'm assuming he will be back.

Tell me johnjoe, what club are you from? why are you embarrassed to tell us?

Culchy's a Rasharkin man, Milltown Row's a galls man, who is your club?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 04, 2006, 04:31:20 PM
Slim, promise I will come clean in the near future. Just enjoying a bit of anonyminity. You would love it if people didnt know about your kickouts, and I have known your identity for a long time. You can be a bit controversial, but as long as you dont cross my line you will be ok!
In fact your posts can be good crack, but please dont get into bed with that useless derry arsehole from bellaghy who is so far stuck up Cassidys hole its untrue. Must be a relation for sure! Probably never kicked a ball in his life, but a fuckin all round expert in everything. Typical Derry mouthpiece!

Hope the Saffrons stuff them in June in Casement.

Culchie, Paul Doc not better in full back? Wot you think?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 04, 2006, 04:31:34 PM
slim what makes u think milltown row is a gall's man?
or when did i say i was from rasharkin ?

jj have others joined the trainin panel since it was announced.
i never heard. if magill is trainin he shud make the team whether hes joins ports or not
just hope jody sticks to his guns

i agree that crozier needs a break, after all he still only a bit o a wane.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on December 04, 2006, 04:43:55 PM
Anybody aware of who is in and who is out of the county hurling 45? I haven't seen a list anywhere?
Title: Hurling Panel
Post by: reiteoir on December 04, 2006, 04:52:52 PM
Haven't seen the list any where myself but I'd put a bet on that young Jim McKernan will be booted out.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: amninc on December 04, 2006, 05:02:23 PM
Johnjoe for you to say Magill misses all hard training as far as his form goes.  He was part of eleven fellows thats trained with me for the county last year between oct and dec when all the rest never bothered showing up until after,  and i was one of the fellows dropped.  So dont go by your silly form look at the bigger picture of the so called county stars that dont need to train eg tony scullion and the likes.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 04, 2006, 05:54:05 PM
Amninc, Im sorry if you were dropped. Sometimes football can be a real bitch. Tell me this, if you gave 100 of the best footballers in the county a pen and paper and asked them to name their BEST squad, would you be on most peoples top 25 or 30.

I cant answer that for you. Was your form good during the summer. Are you in with Jody now?

With regard to Magill, I think he is pure class, just a really lazy so and so. Hopefully if he is in with Jody, someone is making a strict note of who does and who dosent attend and FINISH all of the really hard sessions. I mean, how many sore throats can you get in a season. If there is a hiding place, Magill will find it, and he isnt alone! Thats my point, while at the same time I accept he is class.

I`ve no agenda here, just love to see the man fulfil his potential - but confident he wont even get close to it cause to it because his head is well up his arse at the minute! Love to be proved wrong on this tho.
Title: who got the letters? county hurling
Post by: milltown row on December 04, 2006, 07:59:57 PM
from Naomh Gall, Burkey, CJ and Karl Stewart. Karls really keen to do will this year. not sure if the other two will bother. CJ is a class act but he is a hard to work out. he may have too much on this year to committ to hurling for the county at senior level
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 04, 2006, 08:19:12 PM
Milltown Row, Burkey's not good enough for senior hurling, was fairly lucky to make the minor panel.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 05, 2006, 08:17:29 AM
that maybe Galls man but, i heard he got a letter. he has not even played a full senior game for Naomh Gall!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 05, 2006, 08:49:00 AM
'' and I have known your identity for a long time. You can be a bit controversial, but as long as you dont cross my line you will be ok!''

how about go f**k yourself johnjoe?  :D

Cross your line my arse!

Culchy, yer a Rasharkin man. and I know Milltown Row is a Galls man (hence the name!!), have you ever been to their pitch?!



I'll be talking no more with johnjoe until he reveals his club. Its all very well coming on here slabbering about Magill and the likes anonymously! grow a set of balls. I bet you wish you had a couple of Magills at your club regardless of where his head is.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 05, 2006, 10:37:55 AM
ok slim i was only geggin, i have only actually been 2 milltown row once b4, an we mite not be there for a while again. i know how u know where im fray, it must have been that u r used 2 the lingo!

i c there r 3 matches on ur pitch this w/end again slim will b in some shape after that. we're rat-swiping on it on sat goin by the paper, hope the pitch doesnt spoil our fast flowing game.

big magills not the worst, bit o a druth but sure thats the student life for u. he cud do a job in fullforward, the black scallion deserves credit where its due, he has played at croke for the hurlers an theres no hiding places there. he must be fed on duck eggs, blue moulded sodas an guinness.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: amninc on December 05, 2006, 10:40:08 AM
Johnjoe i guessing you are a portglenone man-bit of a rash staement , what are ur reasons.  Currently on the panel at min.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 05, 2006, 10:45:19 AM
what are the 3 games culchy? it seems the county just throw everything the direction of our place these days cos nobody else wants it. Our pitch needs you hoors tramping through it badly!

the new pitch is in great nick, the bottom one is very heavy though.

Our U16's are in the SW Championship Final on Saturday, thats the only game i know of on it but i assume you lot have a hurling game-abbey cup no doubt?! what else is on it?

you might be lucky to get the club opened, our dinner dance is on Friday night!!  :D

were you playing in the McCormick Cup?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 05, 2006, 11:07:12 AM
aye the abbey cup agin tir na og.

think the other match is minor final of some sort, shield or somethin.
sean stinkins and moneyglass me tinks.

aye was playin on sunday gettin the run around fray some wee minor, some craic.
think he had even been playin b4 our match an he was still runnin everywhere.
thought we shud have won, had more than enuf chances in first half.
then the owl legs went in the second half an the ref didnt help either.
but cant blame him, hes actually one of the better ones.

spose yous hay a bit o celebratin 2 do on fri nite then.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 05, 2006, 11:16:49 AM
aye, think we had 4 minors playing- 2 of which are under 16 and another minor came on as sub. you should have won it, fitness levels beat you in the end and it showed that our lads were playing more football the past few weeks. We had the bare 15 and then a couple turned up late, they helped when they were brought on at half time.

you must have been corner back or wing half back.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 05, 2006, 11:26:38 AM
AYE TWO O THE BOYS THAT CAME ON SCORED THE GOALS THAT FINISHED US OFF
WHO WAS THE BIG FELLA WHO CAME ON AT MIDFIELD NOT A BAD PLAYER, SCORED A GOOD GOAL.
WILE LUMP OF A CUB,AGAIN MUST B FED ON DUCK EGGS. AYE YOUS JUST RAN THRU US IN THE SECOND HALF.

TELL ME SLIM DO U KNOW UR COLLEAGUES USERNAME OR IS HIS ID UNKNOWN.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 05, 2006, 11:35:34 AM
Thats big Seamy McCloskey-minor last year, big brute of a fella aye. He's a good prospect for the middle of the park and was on the senior panel this year.

I might take a wander to the field on Saturday to watch the infamous rat killers in action!! :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 05, 2006, 11:46:10 AM
think johnjoe mite b huffin now  ???
its all gone quiet over there.
id say jj is fray the outskirts o belshaft.
maybe up the hill.
give us a clue okocha.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 05, 2006, 11:48:00 AM
Culchy, your Abbey Cup game may find a new venue- ye wont be playing it in Toome. Its been confirmed to me that our pitch will not be available for that game.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: MichaelMagill on December 05, 2006, 12:43:19 PM
Just reading through your carbage JohnJoe,  You seem to have some personal issue you need to sort out with me.  Im sorry Delargy embarressed you lot - its just not the way football is done in my eyes. You talk about these hiding places - least i get to the stage were i can hide as you say.  Anyway this is me so who are you and stop hiding behind your little computer screen.Dont expect you too as one of you qualities is prob a lack of balls-prove me wrong. slan
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 05, 2006, 12:52:15 PM
go on the boy ye!!

i dont think it is Magill though.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: MichaelMagill on December 05, 2006, 01:02:52 PM
I guarentee it is.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 05, 2006, 01:05:23 PM
i wudnt argue way him.
hes alot bigger than me.
hows the form the blackscallion bot da mora nite then!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on December 05, 2006, 01:08:11 PM
Amninc, Im sorry if you were dropped. Sometimes football can be a real bitch. Tell me this, if you gave 100 of the best footballers in the county a pen and paper and asked them to name their BEST squad, would you be on most peoples top 25 or 30.

I cant answer that for you. Was your form good during the summer. Are you in with Jody now?

With regard to Magill, I think he is pure class, just a really lazy so and so. Hopefully if he is in with Jody, someone is making a strict note of who does and who dosent attend and FINISH all of the really hard sessions. I mean, how many sore throats can you get in a season. If there is a hiding place, Magill will find it, and he isnt alone! Thats my point, while at the same time I accept he is class.

I`ve no agenda here, just love to see the man fulfil his potential - but confident he wont even get close to it cause to it because his head is well up his arse at the minute! Love to be proved wrong on this tho.

Mick, if those sore throats are a bother, get the tonsils out, It should work trust me.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: amninc on December 05, 2006, 02:22:14 PM
you were on the panel after christmas then john joe?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Fr Ted on December 05, 2006, 02:29:47 PM
If it really is M Magill, then fair fcuks to you, there is too much personal insults and slabbering going on about individuals on the GAA board, it should be used for as the name would suggest a 'discussion board' for airing an opinion on a topic, not to launch cowadly personal atacks.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 05, 2006, 02:44:12 PM
i agree with Ted, god bless ye father.

insults dont bother me if i know the person is legit. yer man johnjoe is an imbecile who refuses to name his club and has some bone to pick with Magill!

as i said before, grow a set of stones johnjoe and stop hiding-you logged on here 40 mins ago, saw that Magill (or someone saying he was magill) was on and asking questions and you ran out again like a wee girl!

shite or get off the pot...
Title: 2007 Ulster Hurling league
Post by: MadMick007 on December 05, 2006, 02:49:27 PM
I see the Ulster Hurling league entry forms are out. Will all Antrim Senior Clubs join this year? :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on December 05, 2006, 03:00:20 PM
well we will have to, as it's the only way to get games ;D

any idea of the dates that they are proposing?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 05, 2006, 03:12:17 PM
re:madmick

i dont know about any of the senior teams mick but i know our team benefitted greatly from the ulster league this year.
we got 2 the semi of div3 which was of great experience for us.
we then went on to the junior championship final and have since won div 3 league.
without the ulster league we wud not have been as successful, its games that was needed.

the ulster council r tryin their best 2 improve the standard of hurlin in ulster, this is what they though wud b the best method.
some other teams dont agree namely dunloy, who didnt participate this year an suffered badly,cause come the championship against the dall they were rusty.
sure u cudnt beat it, its better than playin friendlies, competitive games r what u want!

also no more badmouthin iindividuals lads, these r the ones we will cheerin on come next june against the boys fray oar the bann!! football fans can be so fickle at times.
its a short dinstance between a pat on the back an a kick up the arse!!
Title: U19 Hurling?
Post by: aontroim on December 06, 2006, 11:43:22 AM
Had heard rumour that some people would like to scrap Minor and U21 grades for an U19 competition - looks like some are pre-empting this!

(From antrim website - antrim.gaa.ie)

The Antrim u19 Hurling panel (selected by Dominic McKinley and Terence McNaughton) to play Waterford on Saturday 9th December is as follows;

Neal McAuley
Aaron Graffin
Paddy McGill
Neil McManus
Shane McNaughton
Paddy Doherty
Paul Shields
Randal McDonnell
Eddie McCloskey
Colm Duffin
Eoghan O'Neill
Barry McFall
Sean Burke
Conor McGourty
Shay Casey
Oran McFadden
Brendan McDermott
Cormac Donnelly
Simon McCrory
Chrissy O'Connell
Connor McCann
Mickey Dallat
Conor Rocks
Conal Maskey
Anton McCaffery

The venue will be confirmed later in the week. Any player not able to attend on Saturday, please inform Kieran on 07990 537166
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 07, 2006, 10:03:14 AM
anyone know where any fixtures are this weekend?

i heard cargin gorts u21 match is at corrigan
an galls johnnies match is at gortnamona

anyone hear where reserve competition between sharkin an lamhs is at?
Title: Naomh Gall Fundraiser
Post by: milltown row on December 07, 2006, 10:13:08 AM
Texas Hold’em Night at Naomh Galls club rooms, Sunday 10th of December (this Sunday) registration at 7.15 £10 entry, £5 buy ins. One buy in after the break,  big prize money!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 07, 2006, 10:20:57 AM
culchy, you'd need to buck up yer ideas before playing the Johnnies in that reserve C'ship. they're a decent side, physical too. though its most of their under 21 team so you may hope they make the final of the u21's and take their eye off it. Locky McCurdy still playing at the ripe old age of 43...at least!!

you have to beat Lamh Dhearg first though...
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 07, 2006, 10:31:37 AM
i know the story bout the chicken an egg an which came first slim!
was wonderin where lamhs match wud be not 2 many clubs want a crowd of hoors
trampin their pitch into shite at this time o the year

if johnnies get to u21 final i'd doubt if reserve competition will be finished this year.
heard one o ur boys sayin on sunday that last years mccormick cup was never played
between ursels an someone canny mind who the other team was.

gud luck for ur u21 semi agin gorts, im sure they'll be hard 2 beat

i see okocha hasnt been on here since big magill scared the brown stuff outta him.


Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 07, 2006, 10:35:49 AM
the mccormick cup is a farcical competition and so is the o'cahan cup. both have and will continue to be treated as such by ourselves in the future. we couldnt care less about them and why should we? the SW board dont! pure shite, but fixtures have to be fulfilled.

your game with Lamhs will likely be tossed for- no other pitch will want it, we certainly dont as we seem to be gettin every game imaginable.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 07, 2006, 10:43:49 AM
Just got a quick chance to log on an see wots been goin on. Havent gone away you know! ( I actually have to work now and then,believe it or not) A couple of quick points tho.

firstly I apologise to magill if I caused offence. It really is far too easy to come on here and run someone down. You are a class player(dual) but a lot of people think there is a full 25% left in your tank. Do you want to be known as agood player, or the best the county has had for many years? all I am doing is letting you know that a lot of your fellow players really want to see the real Michael Magill this year, the one who could play for Kerry, if you were from there!

So shake off the Bot head and really get stuck into playing to your full potential, and youll be all over this board for all the right reasons! Hopefully this wee kick up the arse will spur you on to greater things. We are all behind you.

Ok big man!

Slim, shite or get off the pot,your hole. read the rules of the board. Why are you obsessed with clubs and identitys. My opinion will be either right or wrong wherever Im from. But at least I could kick the ball more than 25 yards, so why dont you runalong now and practice those kickouts, and when you get them up to 30 yards, I might give you a few clues. You see, Im doing this for your good too!

Finally,(to broaden the discussion) looks like a really good u-19 squad there, with Paul Shiels top man, but shitloads of quality throughout. Good luck to this exciting squad, and to Woody and Sambo as they embark on a new era. Go to it lads!






Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 07, 2006, 10:51:32 AM
damage is done d**khead, dont try crawling up Magills arse- he doesnt work like that!!

as for my 25 yards kickouts  :D ;D

classic stuff, original too!!  :-\

I've represented my club in the USFC, have you? Nah, didnt think it  :D

maybe your a wee bit bitter, dont know where i'm getting that from-just a hunch!!..
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 07, 2006, 12:06:00 PM
Slim, my response to Magill was genuine. Most readers of this site will know where I`m coming from. Sometimes the truth hurts, and hopefully Magills real response will be on the playing field. What part of this are you having difficulty with. Lets put it this way, imagine Magill and Mc Gourty af full pelt in the county forward line

If anyone is trying to get personal, its you Slim, so wind your neck in and chill out a bit!

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 07, 2006, 12:12:51 PM
as if Magill has anything to prove to the likes of you  :D

Didnt he represent Antrim in Croker, how many around here can say that? its all very well you coming here and launching personal attacks every time you post while hiding behind yer screen name, your a big man!!

So, in your 14 posts thus far you've ridiculed Magill, McGourty and my own footballing ability/attitude etc.- good going. ::)
Title: Fixtures
Post by: aontroim on December 07, 2006, 02:33:40 PM
Antrim Championship Fixtures - 9th December 2006

U21 FC
1.30 p.m. @ Gort na Mona - St. John's v St. Gall's
1.30 p.m. @ Glenavy - Gort na Mona v Erin's Own, Cargin

Reserve Football Competition
2.00 p.m. @ Cushendun - Lamh Dhearg v St. Mary's, Rasharkin


EXTRA TIME MUST BE PLAYED IF NECESSARY IN ALL GAMES


Is this a first for FOOTBALL to be played at Cushendun?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 07, 2006, 03:47:42 PM
some fuckin craic boys
how did they think that one up
cushendun where men r men an sheep are feared

i'd say it'll be a game of 2 halves definitley
gale force winds down there
they'll have 2 clear all the seaweed off the pitch b4hand

hi slim dont raise 2 okocha's bait
we all know u were part of the all conquerin cargin team that were the best team
in antrim this year, even with ur 25 yard kickouts

if ur man wud only drop his guard an let us know what club he is from
what is there 2 b feared of apart from magill landin 2 ur club 2 get his own back.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 07, 2006, 03:54:02 PM
i cant say I've ever had the honour of a game in Cushendun. How the Co Board chose that pitch to play Lamh Dhearg and Rasharkin I'll never know!!

just shows how highly they regard the Reserve C'ship....not highly  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 07, 2006, 04:05:41 PM
aye c'dun some spot if ur a goat, on the edge of a cliff
they dont use a lawnmower, they just let 2 a local farmer

slim its not even called reserve championship

it gets called a reserve fuckin competition
how insultin is that

competition - thats somethin on the tv when the answers that obvious
u dont even bother enterin it.

thats somethin u had when u were a wane at school to
c who cud pee the highest up the wall, i always laughed when i heard of one fella
who thought he was great he cud hit the roof, he was great all rite until he realise what goes
up must come down, fuckin pisshead!!

anyhow doesnt matter what its called its there to be won
maybe next year sometime!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 07, 2006, 04:21:31 PM
Locky McCurdy still plays? Find yourselves some body armour lads!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 07, 2006, 04:25:15 PM
Locky's alright, honest player. He'll hit you if ye deserve it! wouldnt be long in having a pint with you after the game, regardless of the outcome.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 07, 2006, 04:32:02 PM
body armour

u mean like those white things yous st galls pansies
wore last year

or do u mean the medievil type
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 07, 2006, 04:34:28 PM
Yes, because insulation shirts are known for their heavy padding. Eejit.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 07, 2006, 06:54:24 PM
och c'mon boys can ye not take a wee joke
wheres ur sense of humours, sake!

i wud well believe that the doc cuts the grass in c'dun
hes a good fella, give him a chance its only his first year in charge
rome wasnt built in a day,
if we can improve a bit every year, then we will eventually get there
look at the bigger picture dont be so narrow minded!

also gallsman,heres me, bein fray the sticks we're used to the cold weather
we dont need any fibre glass-wiry wool jumpers to keep us warm.
i hear o'neills r for bringin out a special edition of sportsmans tights!
they'll be made from cotton wool, aye catch ursel on!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: becks on December 08, 2006, 11:35:54 AM
id like to know how stinsons and moneyglass are going to play twice on sun like the fixtures suggest. 12.30 in toome in the minor league final and then at 2.00 in aldergrove in the laverty cup semi final!  Dont think its gona happen.
Title: Antrim hurlers train in Ballymena
Post by: dec on December 11, 2006, 09:35:12 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/6170631.stm

Antrim hurlers train in Ballymena
Ballymena Rugby Club opened its training facilities to the Antrim hurlers on Sunday in an historic move.

Prior to Sunday, hurling had never been played on any of the Eaton Park pitches in the predominantly Protestant town.

Antrim hurling joint-manager Terence McNaughton described the training venue as "perfect for us" given that so many of the squad hail from north Antrim.

Ballymena chairman Rab Brady spoke of his club's desire to "develop a good working relationship with the hurlers".

"Hopefully they can use the fabulous facilities that we have here," he said.

"We are not concerned with religion here or any aspect of that but just glad to see other sports organisations use the facilities."

The club's premises have hosted soccer and cricket, as well as rugby down through the years.

Invariably, Antrim hurlers have trained in West Belfast down through the years and the county board is now hoping that Jody Gormley's Saffron football squad will also be able to avail of Ballymena's facilities during the course of this winter.

Antrim hurling bosses McNaughton and Dominic McKinley had no hesitation in heading for Ballymena.

"When you train at 10 o'clock or a Sunday morning, you don't want to be dragging guys from the far ends of north Antrim to Belfast," said McNaughton.

Antrim GAA chairman John McSparran said that the hurlers were "delighted" by the decision to train in Ballymena.

"I noticed one of the things they said this morning was:'My God...dressing-rooms with heat in them'. That was a novelty for them," added the Antrim official.

"I haven't heard one dissenting voice. And if you know the position in Antrim where we are lacking facilities, anybody who would be critical of this, is way wide of the mark."
Title: fair play to ballymena
Post by: reiteoir on December 12, 2006, 10:15:16 AM
Fair play to BRFC, thats thr=e way things should be. Hopefully, one or two of their lads will take up Gaelic games.

The only thing that worries me is that as its Ballymena men providing these facilities, are much are they looking? ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Great Leap Forward on December 12, 2006, 10:41:31 AM
It is a fantastic gesture by Ballymena and should be applauded.

I hope they don't find themselves victims of vandalism or some other form of retribution from local arseholes who will will judge their actions as licking up to the fenians.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: an caman on December 12, 2006, 12:30:07 PM
taken form antrim website

U19 Hurling  11 December 2006 
The U 19 hurlers played their match on Saturday at Larne as planned .Although it was very cold and there had been some rain the pitch was in good condition, both teams started off intent on winning this game. With a strong breeze which favoured the Waterford team in the first half , the Antrim defence had to work hard to keep the scores down, Chris O’Connell was in nets with Neal Mc Auley at full back, other defenders were Randall McDonnell, Barry Mc Fall

The Antrim midfield were closing down their opponents quickly to help out their defence and Simon Mc Crory was supplying the Antrim forward line with plenty of chances . Paddy Doherty got the first goal for Antrim with Paul Shields and Cormac Donnelly getting points on the board also, before Paul Shields got the second goal for Antrim The score at half time was Antrim 2.3 v 2.7 Waterford,

With the wind at their backs Antrim quickly set about taking their points and drawing level and then to add a further 10 points to leave the score at the end

Antrim 2.17 v Waterford 2.9 .Other scorers on the day were Eddie Mc Closkey and Colm Duffin

All members of the panel took part in the match.Thanks to Latharna og for their reception on the day and to Mrs Anne Mc Caughan for the tea for every one . Thanks also to Tommy Mc Intyre for refereeing

After the match both teams attended a reception hosted by the Mayor Larne , Mr Danny ‘O, Connor in the council offices , The Mayor welcomed everyone and made a presentation to both teams . County sec, Jim Murray thanked the players, host club Latharna Og and the Mayor
 
An encouraging result. like the idea of an under 19 team. will allow alot of the fellas from the last two years minor teams to continue playing together. Also a good result for the jordanstown hurlers in the div 2 hurling league final. they would have alot of antrim lads playing.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: slow corner back on December 12, 2006, 09:55:29 PM
WELL DONE TO THE u-19S. iT IS OBVIOUSLY IMPOSSIBLE TO SAY HOW STRONG WATERFORD WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF dECEMBER BUT ENCOURAGING NONE THE LESS. ON A DIFFERENT POINT I HAVE NEVR BEEN TO LARNES NEW PITCH, WHATS THE SET UP LIKE THERE, JUST CURIOUS.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Guillem2 on December 13, 2006, 08:00:32 AM
Good work by Woody & Sambo sorting out Ballymena. Maybe signs of a more professional approach to training the county team.
The Larne pitch is in the middle of nowhere over-looking the town. It's a good, full size, pitch, wiith catching nets etc. The changing rooms are a port-a-cabin but they have showers that work and have hot water. Well done to all concerned in developing a fine facility in such a hostile environment.
On another ponit, I've heard that Bredagh hurlers want to join the Antrim league next year. Will they be accepted? I don't see any problem, certainly not with travel. The more teams the better IMO.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 13, 2006, 10:52:08 AM
has anyone heard when the reserve competition final is or where it is?
is it this side o christmas.

seen a couple o ropey fotas in the local press around b'mena of cargins
anual dinner.
young kevin o'boyle got their senior player of the year.
didnt see much of him this year but he must be a real talent if hes gettin awards like that!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 13, 2006, 10:56:51 AM
Kevin thoroughly deserved that award, a class act all year and consistent throughout.

u need to watch yer back culchy, i was talking to a lad on Saturday evening who was enquiring who you and jj were.

ropey pics me hole, there'll be some papers sold this week- all scrubbed up and lookin well!!  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 13, 2006, 11:17:21 AM
hi slim dont tar me way the same brush as that jj eejit!
i know who ur on about.
anything i said bout him was tongue firmly in cheek.
im sure the big man was wile worried bout what somebody like me was sayin anyhow.
id say jj is a current county panellist there a couple of them floatin about here.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 13, 2006, 11:24:02 AM
bein a county panellist means f**k all really if yer slabberin about other men on the panel or men that should be! but no, he was only askin about who you were.

that reserve final isnt on this weekend, I'd say it will be played next Saturday, possibly at our place.

clubs dont want anyone on their pitch at this time of year but as theres 2 games on ours on Sunday I'd imagine we'll probably get that reserve final.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 13, 2006, 11:40:15 AM
its black eye friday next week, it'll be some craic on sat if its on!
wud it be on ur new pitch up the back.

what r the johnnies like slim!
our team will be the same that played yous in mccormick cup
minus 1 player a half back.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 13, 2006, 11:46:59 AM
i only watched the Johnnies once and that was against us in the semi-final. The're a good team with a lot of young players and a couple of old heads too- Locky McCurdy, Donal Kennedy and their keeper-all with SFC medals under their belt.

they have that same old Johnnies style about them though-if they are getting it tight, then start a fight. that happened us and with a load of cubs on our team we didnt need it, got a man sent off and they won by 2 i think.

you'll get it tight, very tight.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Cromagh on December 13, 2006, 02:19:01 PM
Kevin O Boyle is a gud young player but Slim - he was by no means your best player. I thought decent clubs didnt hand out them awards!! ;D

Are you telling me that if he had of got injured you wouldnt have won the championship
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 13, 2006, 02:29:57 PM
where did i say that Cromagh?

he's a great player and would get on any club team in Ulster-FACT!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 14, 2006, 02:57:14 PM
whats the predictions for the u21 final?

probably be tight with the conditions bein a factor.

not long til mckenna cup lads, how will antrim cope without their students,
are there many?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Blacksheep on December 14, 2006, 02:58:21 PM
What has this to do with Armagh Harps??   ::) ADMIN!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: slow corner back on December 14, 2006, 07:46:21 PM
I reckon Bredagh hurlers would be welcome in the Antrim leagues, sure havent the half of them played for Antrim clubs already, although many years ago in most cases!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Cromagh on December 14, 2006, 08:43:16 PM
Slim

You are getting carried away with yourself! Yes hes a good player but a bit light to be included in every team

Ballinderry - McGuckian, McOscar, Crozier/Wilson - dont think so
bELLAGHY - mCgOLDRICK, O'Neill, Doherty/McShane

St Galls - McRory, Brady, McLean

Cross - Bellew, Kernan, Hughes


Are you telling me Slim that he would get on any of the above - well if he would why the hell has Jody Gormley not picked him for the county - oh thats right he wouldnt know anythinh.

So Slim dont get carried away - Hes a good wee player that had a decent year. A bit early to be making sweeping statements about him -time enough in 3/4 years before you could make a decent judgement - that is if you could actually make one ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 15, 2006, 08:36:00 AM
Ah Cromagh, you have shown yourself up on this site yet again.

If you knew anything about what you're talking about then you'd know that Kevin O'Boyle is on the Antrim panel,  :D ;D

what a stupid jabrone you are  :D

he played in the friendly last week for St Marys against Antrim and starred!!

stick to what you know Cromagh- not much  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Cromagh on December 15, 2006, 02:06:50 PM
Stand corrected Slim >:(

But still stick with my point - he wudnt get on every team in Ulster
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 15, 2006, 05:15:56 PM
Cromagh, who is Mc Rory of St galls?

Kevin O Boyle is a class act, and will play county football for years. Best man to man marker around, support play  O Boyle is just another of the top class Antrim footballers that will match Derry at any age group. Remember there was nothing at all between our minor or u-21 sides last year,and our second team gave youse all you wanted at Maghera in the mc Kenna cup. I know that Antrim football does respect and fear some counties, but we have no fear whatsoever of playing a grossly overrated and arrogant county like Derry.

Bring on June, I cant wait to get a kick at youse!

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 15, 2006, 05:41:55 PM
McRory is the St Galls midfielder - right?? Mark. Hatrdly a good comparison as he is a midfielder.

Kevin O'Boyle is a tidy wee corner back and there's not too many in Antrim. He'd be needing a few eggs in the morning before making a good county footballer but he's young yet.

Unfortunately it's no coincidence that a lot of the good young footballers in antrim were schooled in derry. O'Boyle, Crozier, Michael McCann and you could go back to further years for Rony Hamill, Kevin Brady. Some would argue Owen Doherty though I wouldn't meself...

I think some of them other Cargin seniors went there too.

It would leads you to ask if our underage coaching is good enough. The unfortunate answer is - probably not.

Edited - add madden to that list.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on December 16, 2006, 04:42:43 PM
any word off u21 final result
Title: U21 Final Result...
Post by: aontroim on December 16, 2006, 04:58:43 PM
Cargin 2-10 v 1-5 St. John's
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on December 17, 2006, 07:58:40 PM
From The BBC

Body of man found in club grounds 
 
The man's body was found in west Belfast
The body of a man has been discovered in Belfast.
The remains were found in the grounds of the Gortnamona Gaelic Athletic Association club on the Upper Springfield Road on Sunday morning.

Forensic scientists are working at the scene in the west of the city to establish the circumstances surrounding the death.

Police are invesigating the death. A post mortem examination is due to be carried out on Monday.

Any one know any more about this?

 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 18, 2006, 10:34:43 AM
Congrats to Cargin for an overwhelming u-21 success on saturday. A truly fitting way for the best young player in the county to finish off his under-age career. Well done Michael and co.

From a St Johns perspective, where does this leave them? I know that O`Prey consistently over-rates the St Johns players. My feeling has always been that they have NO players anywhere near good enough at u-21level. Mc Glinchey got the vote last year on the basis of one good challenge game, the rest of the time he struggled. Hasson would always have been a better option, with his stamina, and engine etc. Meades inclusion was a joke(class stuff Gerry) and everyone knew where that came from. and he did well to last the ten minutes he got!

Could have forecast a hammering before the game. Their only player of true county standard is Brian Neeson, full stop, but no doubt O`Prey and his (St Johns) backroom staff will have other blue tinted ideas

Once again Andy fails to deliver the goods at managerial level, despite his side trying to resort to bully boy tactics near the end, and a referee that did his best to turn the game St Johns way.

Cargin, youse were a credit to your club, and well done.



Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 18, 2006, 10:43:48 AM
jj theres no point comin on lickin arse now
u shudve known not to cross slims line.

all the same well done 2 cargin u21s

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on December 18, 2006, 11:17:39 AM
Heard Kevin O'Boyle got a pretty serious injury.  Dislocated shoulder with collar bone broken in 2 places???
Hopefully its not as bad as what I've heard and wish him a speedy recovery. 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 18, 2006, 12:02:47 PM
Culchie, my post has f**k all to do with either you or Slim. Either you agree with the sentiments or you dont. Stop trying to make this personal, I have no argument with Slim or yourself, so keep it that way. Have you no worthwhile opinions to offer, or is it you who is licking arse, cause it certainly wont be me! If I say well done to Cargin, its because its merited, as far as I know Slim is not involved.

Away back to your Ulster/Scots dribble with you!

Really disappointed with the news on young Kevin. Truly a class act. Hope he bounces back, but that sounds like a nasty injury?

And just as a footnote, my previous post was not an anti St Johns bias, even if some readers take it that way. Just personally believe they are hugely over-rated,and while they arnt a bad team, they have a lot of decent players, but no outstanding ones at this (u-21)
or senior level. From a county perspective, I`d rather be saying they have half a dozen class acts, but they just arnt there. If anyone agrees or disagrees thats ok, its only my opinion!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 18, 2006, 01:24:15 PM
Brian Neeson is not of counsty standard. Having played against him a few times, and adm ittedly he's still young, he's shown no justification of the hype I hear from Johnnies. Completely one footed, and it's not even that great. Anyone who was at the St. Gall's - St. John's minor championship game earlier in the year would have seen him getting completely skint.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 18, 2006, 02:05:11 PM
john joe, john joe, john joe!

i was only winding you up. ur the one gettin personal-ulster scots.
just because my grammar isnt great, more like lazy.
i totally agree with your previous contribution.
cargin deserve all the praise they get, they are a well run and organised club.
they sometimes dont get the recognition they deserve for their football,
some people would rather concentrate on other aspects of their game.

anyway, hows the county training goin
u said in a previous post u cant wait 2 get a kick at them from derry!
do u think u will make the panel or startin team.
have u any inside info for us average joes!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffronman on December 18, 2006, 03:45:57 PM
Congrats to Cargin u21s for a great win, rounds off a great year for their club, finally they have shown they can play ball without using the bully boy tactics they previously used!
Also wish a speedy recovery to kevin o boyle, class act who was one of the highlights of the year in antrim football!

Heard rumours that Mr K McGourty was up to his usual tricks yesterday against his fellow county men, started a row and got sent off, can anyone update us??
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 19, 2006, 10:23:32 AM
Cheers Culchie, no hard feelings at all.

People on this site should realise that all we do here is sound off on our opinions. Its obvious that some of my earlier posts hit a few raw nerves, but I stand by them. I think Magill operates well inside the comfort zone, and Mc Gourty is a first class nuisance. Thats not to say that if they both got the finger out, Antrim would have a deadly and potent forward line. My comments are borne out of frustration that Antrim may never fully get the best out of the two of them. If my comments cause offence, they have a real opportunity to prove me wrong. On the playing field where it matters, not on a keyboard.

Saffronman, agree fully. Cargin have got their fair share of bad press in recent years. This year they have been a real credit, playing disciplined and good football. Their display against St galls was my highlight of the football year. Makes for an interesting 2007!

Culchie, there is a no talk ban about anything going on in the football camp, but early signs are positive. Thats all I can say.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 19, 2006, 02:18:33 PM
thats fair enuf jj.

we will just have 2 wait til the mckenna cup starts.
will u be playin for antrim or r u part of 1 o the uni squads.
do antrim lose many 2 the uni teams.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 19, 2006, 02:27:37 PM
Magill knows the identity of JohnJoe anyhow-as do i.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on December 19, 2006, 02:32:57 PM
go on then slim
spill the beans or at least give us a clue!

uv been rite an quiet the last lock o days slim
heard u had a fallen out way a not so goldie lookin chain
outside arbys
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 19, 2006, 02:36:42 PM
a bigger contingent of uni players than ever this year, culchie.

With some sensitivity re earlier comments, best I didnt disclose which camp I`m in. Maybe some time in the future I`ll drop a clue or two, but mums the word for now. Training fairly brutal at the moment. Morale ok. Its a bit tough for a few though....reckon one or two wont stick the pace!!!

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 19, 2006, 02:42:19 PM
yer right there culchy, quite a falling out!!! hence the quiet couple of days-had a few complications.

i wont be 'outing' yer man- just letting him know that he is well known.

thats a mad shock for yer community at the minute culchy, disaster for all involved at the worst possible time, not that theres a good time.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 19, 2006, 09:08:28 PM
Good luck to St Gall's on St Stephen's Day. Would love to see them run out against the Island in the final - CJ's swansong at minor level?

Any word how Mickey Rea is getting on with the Antrim panel?
Title: Re: Clooney Gaels, Antrim and Norn Iron junior hurling champions
Post by: johnneycool on December 20, 2006, 12:52:49 PM
I hear the Gaels were invited to Ballymena council buildings for a civic reception and the sitting DUP mayor welcomed them as Antrim and Northern Ireland junior hurling champions.

Shit stirring bollocks.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on December 20, 2006, 12:57:27 PM
i never heard that but i did hear it was on last night and there wasnt the slap up feed that they were expecting!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on December 20, 2006, 01:58:27 PM
i never heard that but i did hear it was on last night and there wasnt the slap up feed that they were expecting!

Tea and biscuits was what my reliable source told me
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 21, 2006, 12:15:40 PM
Its all gone very quiet. All you civil servants off already?

Heres a stocking filler, might liven up the thread.

Top Ten Best Performance Awards for me in 2006.

1 St Galls display versus Nemo.
2 Antrim minor hurlers gallant display versus Galway
3 Cargin display versus St Galls
4 Under 21`s twelve point victory versus Fermanagh
5 Antrim Hurlers Christy Ring revenge versus Down
6 Antrim minor footballers victory against Armagh
7 Under 21`s narrow defeat to Tyrone in Omagh
8 La Salle Mc Larnon Cup campaign, esp All-Ireland semi final.
9 Lamh Deargs gutsy c`ship final versus Cargin
10 Cushendalls c`ship comeback versus Loughgiel


Best young footballer award     CJ Mc Gourty
Runner up                              J. Crozier and K O Boyle (joint)

Best young hurler Award          Paul Shiels
Runner up                              Neil Mc Manus

Best overall club.                     Gort Na Mona   ( For providing an outlet in an area with particular urban distractions, and under age
                                            teams in both codes who can hold their own at the highest level in the county)

Runner up                              St Brigids, both on and off the field. In 5 years, they could be the biggest and best club in Antrim.

Merit                                      St Galls, for putting Antrim football on the map, and for nearly (should have) winning the All Ireland.
Merit                                      Cargin, for winning new admirers for their fast and positive brand of disciplined football.
merit                                      St Johns, for underage emphasis, winning u-12 all county football and hurling.

Finally, county man of the year to John Mc Sparran, for the ability to take hard decisions, for his committment to delivering the Strategic Plan (excellent stuff) and to his support and instigation of new finance initiatives, and better training facilities.  Also a good effort( can be better next year, but good start) at a players awards dinner in Tullyglass. Very good first year, tho priority next year is to get fixtures sorted out.



Should start a bit of debate, comment, (slagging off) whatever!

Either way, seasonal wishes to ye all,  even you Slim, and lets make 07 a good un.

Slan.























                       
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on December 22, 2006, 08:51:34 AM
Its all gone very quiet. All you civil servants off already?



Top Ten Best Performance Awards for me in 2006.

5 Antrim Hurlers Christy Ring revenge versus Down
                     


Are you sure it wasn't Down who exacted revenge in the Christy Ring round robin game after taking a pummelling in the Ulster championship??
I know Antrim went onto win it, but that was by beating Carlow not Down!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffronman on December 22, 2006, 03:05:53 PM
Merry Christmas to all Saffron Gaels. Wishing you all A Peaceful and Prosperous New Year. Heres to a good National League Run then success against them Derry c***s in our back yard! Up the Saffrons
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on December 22, 2006, 03:09:39 PM
Merry Christmas to all Saffron Gaels. Wishing you all A Peaceful and Prosperous New Year. Heres to a good National League Run then success against them Derry c***s in our back yard! Up the Saffrons


How can you put merry xmas and c$$ts in the same sentence....very uncharitable of you
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on December 22, 2006, 03:32:31 PM
Maybe youre right JC, no worries. At the end of the day Antrim hurlers got to the final, only to go for 30 minutes without a score, against CARLOW. And some people thought it was a good display! Hard to watch I thought, and a million miles removed from the pace of the senior game that followed. Hopefully better fare ahead next year.

Max, have to say that Saffronman was way over the top there, but only because of the supposed season of goodwill. Normal hostilities will resume in January. Until then, convey our best wishes to the gaels of Derry.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on December 24, 2006, 04:16:17 PM
johnjoe must be on the soup why was cargins thumping of casements not in top 10,
Title: SPOH
Post by: aontroim on January 01, 2007, 03:39:21 PM
Tragic news about the untimely death of former Antrim footballer Sean Paul O'Hagan in a car accident last night - deepest sympathy to his family and friends and all at Con Magees Glenravel.

Go ndeanaidh Dia trocaire ar a anam.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on January 01, 2007, 04:32:32 PM
Deeply shocked and saddened to hear the death of Shaun Paul, a great lad and great player, will be sorely missed by family and whole Antrim GAA community! R.I.P
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ziggysego on January 01, 2007, 10:08:11 PM
Terrible news this morning about Sean Paul. My sympathies go out to his family, friends, community.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Abble on January 02, 2007, 09:00:39 AM
Spo, you'll be very sorely missed as a superb footballer and a great person at Northbrook, you won manys a game for us on your own...it was a joy to have known you, socialised with you and played alongside you.
Jordy.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 02, 2007, 09:40:13 AM
Terrible news.  My sister in law was very friendly with Shaun paul and I met him on a few nights out.  I am also friendly with Kieran McKinley, who was seriously hurt in the crash and their is a very surreal feeling about the whole situation.


May he rest in peace.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on January 02, 2007, 11:03:26 AM
Terrible news. knew sean paul fairly well, really decent lad, good footballer and a more than handy hurler when he wanted to be.

Deepest sympathy to his family, friends and all at Con Magees
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on January 02, 2007, 11:32:59 AM
Very surreal indeed.  I remember Sean Paul from his stint in Coleraine, he was leaving when I was starting.  When I heard others were in the car, I had a bad feekling it would be McKinley or O'Loan as they all mucked about together along with Niall Higgins.  Any word on McKinleys situation.  Who else was invloved?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 02, 2007, 01:26:03 PM
Kieran is serious but stable.  He has two broken legs, a broken arm, bashed ribs and bad cuts on his face.  Mrs BC and her sister were talking to him in the hospital yesterday and he was in serious shock.  There was a young girl. I can't remeber her name who is serious, haven't heard any news today so hopefully that is a good sign.  The driver was also hur but not as serious.

This is the second time in recent years Kieran has had a bad accident on that stretch of road.  The terrible thing is it was only a few hundred yards from Shaun Pauls house when it happened and he would have been home.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on January 02, 2007, 01:47:44 PM
Poor Kieran, I remember he had the leg broke a few summers ago when the marquee was up.  Good that he's stable, lucky to be alive, injuries sound horrific..  I only got a message frm him on bebo last week about his xmas plans, crazy to think what has happened. The tributes are pouring into SPOH's account.  Very very sad!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Guillem2 on January 03, 2007, 09:12:39 AM
RIP. I hope all those injured make full recoveries.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 04, 2007, 08:38:30 AM
Horrible blow for Glenravel and the community with the loss of a top footballer and a top chap.

May God give his family and friends the strength to pull through this testing time.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: youbetterbelieveit on January 04, 2007, 10:34:01 AM
lads just a quick question, who are the main hurling/football dual clubs in Belfast?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on January 04, 2007, 10:35:56 AM
Antrim team v Down in McKenna Cup this sunday

McGreevy
damien gault
colin brady
Laurence ? (st pauls)
sean mcveigh
gavin bell
AN Other
joe quinn
darryl martin
aidso gallacher
mick mccann
eoin o neill
micky rea
ciaran close- captain
paul close

heard this team announced at training last nite. forget who wing back is and not sure the corner backs surname.tony scullion and kevin brady away skiing. the forward line has a bit of potential but i would worry aout the defence.
what do people think?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on January 04, 2007, 10:36:59 AM
main dual clubs in belfast would be st pauls, rossa, st galls, st johns
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Guillem2 on January 04, 2007, 10:37:51 AM
Rossa, St Gall's, St John's, Gortnamona, St Paul's. Take your pick. It depends on the standard you are looking for.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 04, 2007, 10:42:03 AM
Wee Closie at Full Forward?!  :o

don't believe that though if its true is a big mistake imho.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 04, 2007, 10:45:17 AM
Slimyer back at work then? Playing Close at FF in the Mc Kenna Cup is not bid mistake FFS
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 04, 2007, 10:48:20 AM
and you'd know Max!  :D

Closie aint a Full Forward, maybe thats where he could end his playing days but at the minute he needs to be on the wing or in the corner.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 04, 2007, 10:50:18 AM
I dont disagree, but my point that in the MC KENNA CUP, its not a big mistake, particularly if he is given a roving role. :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on January 04, 2007, 10:54:08 AM
i agree with slim. close aint a full forward. i think if brady was available he would be playing there with close in the corner. will be interesting to c how mickey rea fares out. dont no much about him
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 04, 2007, 10:56:05 AM
Roving my hole, he's chief scoring threat on that team and needs to be close to the posts! Unless its a 2 man full forward line they're going with. By the looks of it he's gone for plenty of midfielders anyhow with the whole half forward line having played midfield for their clubs recently- Aidso played their for St Galls and Mick and Pig played their for us.

i know its only the McKenna Cup but we need to get things right early if we're to dump you hoors from the USFC  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 04, 2007, 11:04:42 AM
I see you have broken your new year pledge already :)
Title: Antrim Team v Down confirmed
Post by: aontroim on January 04, 2007, 02:51:26 PM
McKenna Cup - Antrim v Down

1. Sean McGreevy
2. Damien Gault
3. Colin Brady
4. Lawrence Higgins
5. Sean McVeigh
6. Gavin Bell
7. Niall Ward
8. Joe Quinn
9. Darrell Martin
10. Aiden Gallagher
11. Michael McCann
12. Eoin O’Neill
13. Paul Close
14. Ciaran Close (Capt.)
15. Mickey Rea
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 04, 2007, 02:54:19 PM
who the fook is Lawrence Higgins?!

Closie the Captain, go on the boy ya  ;)

doesnt seem too long ago when he was running out the Casement door as Mascot!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on January 04, 2007, 03:03:43 PM
What club does M Rea play for
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 04, 2007, 03:04:40 PM
Glenavy. But according to a previous poster he gets about!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on January 04, 2007, 03:19:39 PM
cheers slim
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 04, 2007, 04:03:37 PM
Oh please. That has to be the worst Antrim team I've seen in years, and let me tell you I've followed our footballers up and down the country for years!

No out and out scoring threat up front.......paul close never scored when he was there before...aidso gallagher has no real feet, mick mccann maybe a couple of scores, micky rea is an unkown at that level and ciaran close cant do it against good oposition. as for the pig..a good oul grafer but just not at that level.

and as for choice fpr captaincy, reckon thats a complete joke. When the team needs driven on, close will be lookin up into stand to see who's watching him!!

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 04, 2007, 04:11:45 PM
has aidso got plastic feet then?!  :P

think you've gone a wee bit OTT there shady character, it is time to try these things out-play the players that havent been seen before-the likes of Mickey Rea and yer man Higgins and see what they have.

Close was a good captain for us last year, brought home the bacon  ;)

what club are you from Shady?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 04, 2007, 04:21:12 PM
Certainly, young rea deserves a go. And lets hope he is the business!

Were you in Enniskillen last year?! Yes aidso has plastic feet! and 3 out of t 4 of the rest of the fellas have been there before and not really cut it, if we are being truthful about it.

The Mighty Kickhams is my club. And who knows maybe M&M can bring us home some bacon this year!

Yes, Close lifted the cup but not really a leader....cargin boys will tell you that themselves. You seem pretty fond of him Slim?! u must be quite CLOSE?! ha....sorry about the pun.
Getting carried off at end of the county final and then mysteriously losing his pain at the final whistle. Hardly the credentials of a leader Slim?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on January 04, 2007, 04:24:05 PM
Is Rea not from Tyrone? 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 04, 2007, 04:26:46 PM
Hes from Brackaville I think.....but now plays for glenavy. Let's hope he's not like alot of the other castaways we've tried in the past!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 04, 2007, 04:28:40 PM
I had the misfortune of being in Enniskillen and getting the biggest soaking of my life yes with the rest of our panel that day. What a f**king piss of a day that was.

Close has problems with his calves-they cramp up sometimes but get back to normal after a few minutes rest. would it have been wiser him staying on the field unfit to walk?

what do you make of Daryll Martins County credentials?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on January 04, 2007, 04:31:42 PM
What age is he?  I heard he was from the Moy
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 04, 2007, 04:34:53 PM
Dito.

AHAHAHA.......are you for real?? i swear that has to be the funniest thing ive heard in a long time!!

Are you his mammy?! Get real.......he didnt get a kick..not because his calves were too sore but becuase he let ur man mcdemott intimidate him, and physically overpower him, thus he was taken off.

You are good craic tho slim :-)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 04, 2007, 04:41:15 PM
He scored 6 frees though before he left  ;)

Anyhow, Creggan must surely be favourites for this years Championship- they have more men on the County Panel than any other Club (8 i think) and with Mickey Moran at the helm they should really be an unstoppable force!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 04, 2007, 04:49:13 PM
6 frees before he left?? county final u are talking about i take it Slim?
Cos it wasn't for sure in enniskillen.
and sure an excellent wee free taker but not a force from play at county level...so far.

Big Martin will  do ok this time of the year when the pitches are heavy and you need grafters...but prob not the answer come championship. Thats being honest.

Only 4 on squad, i think you'll find Slim. We aspire to great. Is that so bad? or should we sit back and let one club monopolise like happened for 4 or 5 years at club level
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on January 04, 2007, 04:53:44 PM
Im not from Antrim, but out of curiosity what is the craic with Creggan. Ive  heard they have 8 players on panel, then I hear 4.   How many exactly is there?  How good a side are they in all seriousness.  I would be able to rate the top few teams in Antrim but never heard much about Creggan.  You have St Galls/Cargin, then the likes of Lamh Derg, Portglenone, St Johns, Rossa.  But where would Creggan be?  I seen a large squad of them in Cookstown training a few weeks ago.  Obviously there is ppl to come into the Antrim Panel yet, such as P Cunningham and whoever else is playing for a Uni.  What about B herron, has he joined K Mc Gourty in simply opting out.  I hope you's do well, and believe me I think you's will be better without the likes of K mc Gourty, bit of a mouth and hasnt really delivered for Antrim.  Groom Crozier and the other McGourty in good time, but from what I hear the panel is gelling well and enjoying Jody's work.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 04, 2007, 04:57:22 PM
Jaysus but yer a very touchy Character!!  :D I was only assuming you were going to be hard to stop this year- by your own admission round Creggan. I've listened to numerous Kickhams men blow themselves up as the next big thing (we've been there before eh?!) so its hardly strange for one to take such a view!

Hopefully now that MM is in charge he'll take down the daft sayings on the home changing room walls  ;)

and please, before you attempt to slate lads like Closie- make sure you have even 1 player better than him in yer ranks!! at the minute-you sure dont!


so, how good are Creggan? Someone please answer nrico, I couldn't seriously attempt to  :D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 04, 2007, 05:08:07 PM
Touchy?? Definitely not. I am realistic. Creggan are not currently in the top 5 teams in the County. But we do lie somewhere between 5 and 9. Reckon that is accurate.

As for comparing close to creggan players. When did I say we had a better forward or a player capable of starring at county level? thats rite I didnt!I just made the point that for Antrim  against good teams he's never looked good enough. FACT.
Oh you are protective over ur little Bum Chum aren't you Slimy?!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on January 04, 2007, 05:09:30 PM
i hear their hard to beat in that school pitch of theirs,not much good in the wide open spaces,basically u would have too say they are sh*te
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 04, 2007, 05:12:10 PM
Byjaysus it doesnt take long for a Creggan man to show his true colours  :D ;D

3 posts and he's shown himself to be anti-Close, anti-Slim, anti-Cargin and anti-Jody for selecting the wrong captain!  :D

Show some love man, maybe thats were you're going wrong up in Creggan  :D


probably not though  ;)


nice one hightower!  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 04, 2007, 05:22:23 PM
Anti-Slim?? don't flatter your self son!!

as for anti-jody not at all.....but i am entitled to my opinion.

There's not many people around Cargin who thought he was captain material...thats all....not a leader...a good club player and good free-tker. Full-stop. Now that hardly slating.
It's starting to become really clear that you are very fond of Mr. C... a close friend indeed!


Slander creggan all you like. But I didnt come on here to talk about mine or your club. So pull ur head out of your parochial back side and talk about what the conversation started with in the 1st place!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 04, 2007, 08:21:04 PM
Mickey Rea is an ex-Derrytresk (East Tyrone) player and an important member of the Academy Hogan Cup winning side in 1997.

He'll get you scores - you'll be mightily surprised.....! He has never 'whored' himself around clubs. Derrytresk are a struggling Div 3 outift. He was courted by senior clubs and accepted a couple of offers.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Guillem2 on January 05, 2007, 07:56:11 AM
Are there other counties in Ulster playing players from outside the county on their teams? A Scullion plays for Down and R Gallagher has move to Cavan. Any others? I can't think of an example wher it has worked out well.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on January 05, 2007, 08:50:28 AM
It's with a heavy heart that i'm writing this,having just returned today from Christmas i'm still in shock about the  untimely death of our playing colleague Shaun Paul, not only was he a class footballer he was also a fine hurler too. having been relegated last year he was looking forward to playing this year to get us promoted and had been training really hard. His death has left a massive hole in our club and it at this stage nobody can talk of GAA. The attendance and support from players from other clubs at yesterdays funeral shows how popular he was.
May God give his parents Sean and Sinead and his brother Ryan, sisters Kelly and Danielle the strength to get though this difficult time.
RIP SPOH
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 05, 2007, 11:13:11 AM
Fao: Slim

I've just realised someting Slim. You said in an earlier post that u were part of the Antrim panel that day in Enniskillen. How many faces can you hide behind. First you have people thinking you are Geek, Then Screamer and now who?? Niall Scullion or somebody?! ha ha

Not that it really matters, but your identity is obvious, but het, your secrets safe with me!!

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 05, 2007, 11:49:33 AM
Everyone knows my identity on here you tit! who said i was on the Antrim panel that day? not me.
my identity must'nt be that obvious or you'd know it  :D

and it obviously does matter to you or you wouldnt bring it up, you arrived on here, named yourself after me and proceeded to attack Closie- of course I'll defend him but doing that to the likes of you is pointless as your envy has no limits.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 05, 2007, 12:07:20 PM
"I had the misfortune of being in Enniskillen and getting the biggest soaking of my life yes with the rest of our panel that day."


That's what you said you TIT!! And if it's the Cargin panel you are on about, then wise up you plonker!! The only place you ever played football was the USA, well until you got there and they realised you for the phoney that you are!!

Are u getting cross?!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 05, 2007, 12:10:14 PM
 :D ;D

you really are dim!!!

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 05, 2007, 12:11:34 PM
Look Shady do yourself a favour and read through the past twenty pages, it will help you to stop making a dick out of urself.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 05, 2007, 12:17:00 PM
aye shady- take Max advice. though a certain ex-USA/Aussie visiting Cargin man will be happy at your words of him!!!  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 05, 2007, 12:23:32 PM
Go back to the derry site max u p***k.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 05, 2007, 12:28:43 PM
Shady let's see if you can add something constructive.

What are your problems with Jody Gormley? He's not been in long so I don't know what you base these problems/fears on. Enlighten us.

You are from Creggan right? What are you or Creggan's expectations under Mickey Moran? Are youse back training yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 05, 2007, 12:32:42 PM
Mickey Rea is an ex-Derrytresk (East Tyrone) player and an important member of the Academy Hogan Cup winning side in 1997.

He'll get you scores - you'll be mightily surprised.....! He has never 'whored' himself around clubs. Derrytresk are a struggling Div 3 outift. He was courted by senior clubs and accepted a couple of offers.

sorry oneill..'whored' may be a little strong but he played for derrytresk,brackaville,derrytresk and now his new club!?!know for a fact as well that he contacted a number of senior clubs(eglish being one)offering his services when he fell out with brackaville.don't think he could get a transfer to anywhere except derrytresk(his home club).he went back there for a while until he fell out with them and now he's playin for his girlfriend's home club!every man to their own but i don't think i could see myself ever playing for another local club over the sake of
a fall-out.

saying that he is handy and good luck to him..he was a hero in the academy along with mssrs thornton,early,mcguigan etc during that hogan campaign

Derrytresk would have him back in a flash, Laceer. There was no fall-out.
Best of luck to him on Sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 05, 2007, 12:37:24 PM
Too right ONeill, I hope he has a stormer. Can't say I've seen the guy playing before but have heard some good reports about him-best of luck to him.

As for judging Gormley- f**k sake, its a bit early for that surely. At least give the man the McKenna Cup before we call for his head!! And to be honest he hasnt had everything his own way either what with injuries and players making themselves unavailable for the panel. He has to play with what he has.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 05, 2007, 01:03:11 PM
Absolutey no probelm with Jody Gormely. Seems like good enuf guy, that can bring some much needed discipline to the setup. Where did I slte him intomygun?

Someting constructive? With their best team out Antrim can be a competitive force.
 
points I made were about:
1. The tried and tested players
2. Lack of scoring threat for sunday
3. Poor choice of captaincy.

Not about Jody Gormely.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on January 05, 2007, 01:08:31 PM
been a while since there has been any urling chat on this thread, anyone know the list of entrants for the ulster hurling league this year.

Dunloy have entered it this year, personally i think its a good move now as the lack of matches was a huge hinderence last year. what you thik theskull
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 05, 2007, 01:39:22 PM
perhaps our learned kickhams buddy is a bit perplexed at the lack of Creggan men starting, or worse, maybe he hasnt been selected for the panel himself!  :D

1. Tried and tested players- like who? and who should be there instead?
2. Lack of scoring threat for Sunday- I wouldnt worry too much about Sunday but Mick McCann and Close are consistent scorers.(i dont know much about Rea or what form the other Close is in these days)
3. Poor choice of captaincy- this is a personal thing you have with closie, jealousy or something-i dont know.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 05, 2007, 01:40:52 PM
shady character, how long did it take you to make that up!
saying theres already a slimshady on here!

you say you have absolutely no problem with jody,
then you you question his choice of captain!!
do you suffer from short term memory loss, as in a sentence or two.

whats wrong with close as captain he is a sure starter all year,
which your captain has to be.

give jody and the squad a chance.
Title: UHL 2007 Entrants
Post by: aontroim on January 05, 2007, 01:42:58 PM
Looks like a stronger league than last year with all major Antrim clubs from Div 1 & 2 entered for 2007 - looks like CLooney are the only team from Div 1 & 2 not to enter.

Antrim (22)                    Armagh (6)
Loughgiel                       Middletown
St Johns                        Keady
Ballycastle                      Cuchulainn
Rossa                            Sean Tracey’s
Glenariff                         Killeavy
Lamh Dhearg                  Craobh Rua
St Paul’s
Cushendun                     Donegal (6)
Gortnamona                   Burt
Carey Faughs                  Setanta
St Endas                        Mac Cumhaills
Rasharkin                       Aodh Ruadh
Armoy                           St Eunans
Ballymena                      Four Masters
Dunloy
St Galls                          Tyrone (5)
Sarsfields                        Eire Og
Tir Na Nog                      Eoghan Ruadh
Shane O Neills                Shamrocks Strabane
St Brigids C Mills               Naomh Colum Cille
Ardoyne                         Gael Chamabhainn
Creggan

Down ( 8 )                      Fermanagh (2)
Ballycran                        Lisnaskea
Portaferry                      Lisbellaw
Ballygalget
Newry Shamrocks           Monaghan (6)
Bredagh                        Castleblaney
St Peters W, point          Truagh Gaels
Castlewellan                   Monaghan Harps
Clonduff                        Inniskeen
                                   Carrickmacross
                                   Latton

Derry ( 8 )              
Kevin Lynch’s
Banagher                       Cavan (4)
Ballinascreen                   Mullahoran
Lavey                            Ballymachugh
Slaughtniel                     Cavan Gaels
Swatragh                       Woodford Gaels
Eoghan Rua
Na Magha
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 05, 2007, 02:20:46 PM
What's the story with promotion and relegation from last year?

e.g. Would Bredagh or the winners of division 2 go up to division 1?

Good to see St Galls and Dunloy in it. It will keep Milltown row happy! Having watched Dunloy's abysmal performance against Cushendall in the championship last year I know they are much better than that and if they can get youngsters shields, doherty etc. blended into their team with a few of these games they can make Antrim club hurling much better. The atmosphere at Dunloy - Loughgiel matches is special so a few tight games between those two in the latter of the championship would be a joy to behold!

Shady character - what are Creggan's expectations under MM? Enlighten us? Championship last four ? League top four? Or  are you aiming for the stars and looking for a championship??
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 05, 2007, 02:46:34 PM
Back to work this Monday, can’t wait was getting cabin fever.

Anyway yes we have entered the Ulster league, was an executive decision last year with the footballers at Croke. But looking forward to this year’s competition.

Anybody any ideas of the structures? Would be unfair of us and Dunloy to waltz in and to the top division, well us anyway. What dates will they be? Looking forward to the year. Any venues/dates for the all Ireland club semis (hurling)?

Onto football, I’m sure most of our posters will be at the match this week to cheer on the new look Antrim team!!! I’m personally looking for an improved team from last year as the county committee believe that Jody is the ticket. I’m pleased (honestly) that he has taken a firm stance with certain players and although it will take time with the new boys I’m sure over the course of the 3 years Antrim will get better (well they couldn’t get any worse) ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 05, 2007, 02:55:02 PM
Oh dear oh dear...now we have culchy and Slim ganging up on me :-(

Cluchie....think you should concentrate on the football. A least you can play a bit.
Contesting Jodies choice of captain is hardly a major deal. He's knew into the job, and I think you will find that the point I am making is the opinion of both cargin and antrim players, but obviously not Slims opnion, as there may b sumting more going on btween him that meets the eye!! Will you b massaging his calves for sunday?!

As for Jody., I have no doubt when he has a fulller hand available to him he will do just fine.


A grand wee footballer, better that I ever was, but hasnt cut it yet at county level. Now tell me where the jealousy is there?

As for Creggan. I'm not on here spouting about winning cships etc. or about having  plyers making the county team, so need need to get stuck in to the Kickmans. Mickey will hopefully consolidate the hard work pit in by Hugh, and maybe bring us on another level. Are we Senior Cship material? Currently, absolutely not.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 05, 2007, 03:00:27 PM
There ya go culchy, and you thought Rasharkin Reserves wasn't a high standard  :D shady character says you can play a bit!!!

you aint on here spoutin about winning championships, you're merely spouting shite!!

name names, who are the players better for the job? you come on with these 3 flaws in Gormleys management style already but have no solutions of yer own. Congratulations by the way, you've been here only 2 days and everyone knows you're a wally already  :D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 05, 2007, 03:18:21 PM
A wally Slim??

No the definition of a wally is:

Someone who comes on to this site and justifies an inter-county player's poor championship performance, by saying he has tight calves!! ha ha.....moooooooo.............

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 05, 2007, 03:28:00 PM
Hilaaaaaarrrriooous!!!!   :o


ok, i think you've made a big enough d**khead out of yourself so here goes-

i am NOT who you think i am and culchy is NOT who you think he is!!

you were back of the queue when they were handing out the brains at Creggan Primary weren't you?  :D ;D


Sherlock Holmes you certainly aint  ;D ;D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on January 05, 2007, 03:36:13 PM
been a while since there has been any urling chat on this thread, anyone know the list of entrants for the ulster hurling league this year.

Dunloy have entered it this year, personally i think its a good move now as the lack of matches was a huge hinderence last year. what you thik theskull

Well it was either an intention of Antrim GAC last year to "force" clubs to play in the UHL this year or downright ineptness to do their job properly. Either way, any club interested in hurling has had to go this way. I do not expect the standard of hurling to be eanywhere close to the Antrim Leagues as these matches will be played without County Players. Also If the matches are "fitted" into saturday afternoons/evenings I expect people working and dual players with all county league matches the following day not to play either. This will drop the standard to an even lower level. A level which won't do the standard of hurling in Antrim any good at at. Sure there will be games, but the competition has to be mean something and be evenly contested for it to add up to anything worthwhile.
On the club side of things, I reallly hope that our young players get their chance and whatever management comes in has the confidence to stick with them. They will need time to bed in, but they will also need to demonstate the right attitude and show that they want it enough.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 05, 2007, 03:44:39 PM
I was, right at the very back. Unfortunately when he arrived in toome, he was all done!

Who I am supposed to think culchie is anyway??

As for you, who the fcuk cares anyway?! Just happens I know who you are.
No big deal.

So get over it, and get back to what you know, talking shite about football.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 05, 2007, 03:49:36 PM
Get over it?!  :D
you named yourself after me, you must care some bit! as for knowing me, as I said- its common knowledge on the board you tit!!  ;D

there is little point in talking football with you, you can't see the wood for the tree's and are way too negative thinking- no scoring threat, bad choice of captain blah blah blah.....

answer my questions, who should be on instead? Maybe....
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: FreeTaker on January 05, 2007, 05:18:53 PM
no need 2 bring other creggan ppl in this, jus cos shady is being a w***** and bring down the name of his club.  good luck 2 close and antrim on sun, cos i think they'll need it.
Title: FAO Milltown Row
Post by: CiKe on January 05, 2007, 09:16:40 PM
I hear Séan Kelly is in England this year? Whereabouts? Christ, if he is in London he'd be some addition to our team!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: TIRCONNAILGAEL on January 06, 2007, 08:08:10 PM
anyone know why mark dougan is not on the mckenna cup panel? was impressed with him last year in the competition espcially against derry
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on January 07, 2007, 05:48:53 PM
any reports from todays game? who played well ,who did'n't?
heard it was played in terrrible conditions
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 07, 2007, 09:28:08 PM
Good to see Queens with three players starting -Crozier, McGourty and Niblock and the poly with at least two - Cunningham and Micko Herron. The more younger boys playing at that level the better.

Didn't make the game. Not a bad result considering the inexperience. More interested in how the newcomers did than the result anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on January 07, 2007, 09:29:45 PM
Paul Doc was also playing for UUJ, at centre half back. 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: FreeTaker on January 08, 2007, 12:47:33 PM
Any word of new managers within the county?  Whos taking who?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 08, 2007, 01:49:00 PM
its as you were for us- hardly a shock!

MM at Creggan is the only other one I've heard.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on January 08, 2007, 01:50:37 PM
Is it Eddie Quinn from Moortown that is taking Rasharkin?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 08, 2007, 02:02:48 PM
he's Quinn anyhow, not sure of his first name.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on January 08, 2007, 03:03:58 PM
Is it Eddie Quinn from Moortown that is taking Rasharkin?

yes
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: loughshore lad on January 08, 2007, 03:13:00 PM
I thought it was Damien "Fudgie" Quinn??
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 08, 2007, 03:15:00 PM
i have been reliably informed his name is Enda Quinn!

Quinns are ten a penny in the moortown.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 08, 2007, 04:06:58 PM
Slim....at least you make me laugh :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 08, 2007, 04:08:33 PM
what?!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 08, 2007, 04:13:11 PM
I am refer to word assoc...brain dead today eh eh!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 08, 2007, 04:19:16 PM
i see shady markII hasnt reared his ugly head today then.
hes probably still eating that huge slice of humble pie.
aye close isnt up to it, with his sore calves and all.

theres no flies on you slim, not much gets by u!!!
you must keep ur ear close to the ground.
always knew there were plenty o rednecks around toome.

is delargy in at portglenyin way his blankety blank chequebook and pen.


Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 08, 2007, 04:20:34 PM
oh aye, brain dead alright! i'm supposed to know that you're referring to another thread on the other board!! f**k sake  :D

where is shady character today?

i hear Close had a good game yesterday as did Mick McCann by all accounts. Close with 3 from play and one free and Mick with 2. So much for no scoring threat.

anyone hear how Rea or the other Close played? or Higgins?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 08, 2007, 04:27:58 PM
only what i read in the paper slim.

rea hit 3 or 4 wides in the first half then got a point in second.
one of his wides was a goal chance in first half.

paul close didnt score and was taken off in second half, think higgins did alrite.

johnjoes mate got a run out yesterday, he came on for rea in the second half.

i see young crozier was on halfback for st marys, he scored a point.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 08, 2007, 04:30:33 PM
think it was Queens!

who is johnjoe's mate?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 08, 2007, 04:32:43 PM
big magill.

aye the cargin boys done alrite yesterday
tomas mccann got a run out aswell.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 08, 2007, 04:36:23 PM
ah, i see what you did there. He'll knock JohnJoes pan in if he gets the chance!!

wouldnt read too much into it yesterday but sure theres a sign of life thankully!

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 09, 2007, 01:59:40 PM
No didn't get a chance to come on yday. Some of us have to work for a living.

Humble pie?? Why would I eat humble pie? As an Antrim supporter I am only delighted when we get a result.
Granted it was 2 very experimental sides, but a result nonetheless.

As for young Close, I heard he had a decent game. Fair play. I never ever questioned his cababilities, but I did question his abiltiy to perform against Ulster sides when at full strength. Nothing has changed, but hopefully I will be proved wrong.

Thanks for your indepth report there Culchie. It sounds as though there is also a bit of promise in young Rae. Lorence Higgins too. It will be interesting to see how Lorence fairs. A good strong, fairly tight marking player who seems to have improved as he's got older.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 09, 2007, 02:08:55 PM
Quote from shady character

''and sure an excellent wee free taker but not a force from play at county level''

Close scored 4 points from Antrims 9. 3 from play. Not bad for a man thats not a force from play  :D ;D

also, Antrims no scoring threat? Close scored 4, Mick scored 2, Rea scored 1, and Paul Close scored one. Thats 4 from the 6 forwards-not bad considering the half forward line was made up more of midfielders.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 09, 2007, 02:38:28 PM
Considering you would like to go down the road of previous quotes, I must have my turn. This cracks me up!

Slim says, In reference to young Close having a stinker in the chamionship (and being replaced at half-time accordingly) v Fermanagh last year:
 "Close has problems with his calves-they cramp up sometimes but get back to normal after a few minutes rest. would it have been wiser him staying on the field unfit to walk?"
 Classic!!

It;s not getting through Slim. Taking nothing away from the fellows, 1 maybe 2 of those players will be on the Down starting 15. So whilst the result was great and very encouraging, it along with the performances must be put into perspective. As for Close, good game (2 from play, 2 frees), but my point is still the same. We need such players to do it aginst , the derry's, down's, cavan's, fermanaghs, tyrones and armaghs when they are full out. If and I hope they do, I will be the first to hold my hand up. So dont think that by certain players doing well I will somehow be embarrassed! Delighted I will be.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 09, 2007, 02:43:51 PM
3 from play, 1 free. According to Close anyhow!

So basically yer a ditchman? quite happy to sit there and criticise players and management on their selection and leadership skills but are willing to celebrate these lads should they beat Derry? You haven't a clue. Your inane ramblings aren't even good reading as they are poorly constructed and you double up on yourself!

for the record, you'll find it was also a very experimental Antrim team on show and you won't see 8 of that team start against Derry.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 09, 2007, 02:57:15 PM
Is that the best you can came up with? To call me a ditch man, and criticise my posts?

Excellent stuff. This debate is starting to bore me a bit now. But for the record I never criticised mgt. but rather questioned a decision? Is there a difference?
If thats called crtiicism, then fine, as lons as its constructive then I remain the right to do so.
Perhaps I should come on here, kiss everyone involved in the Football set-ups ass and pretend that we are the finished article?!

I have not said anything in any of my posts that you will not hear from a selection of your mates on the county squad. Of course you will not admit that on here, but you know that is a fact. As  for me, time for a change of record.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 09, 2007, 03:08:35 PM
too right it is, change the record indeed.

you are a ditchman, not even that-you hide behind the safety of yer computer and say the likes of Close isnt good enough to play against the Derry's and Tyrone's! when indeed you have never represented Antrim and never will.

Jealousy is a horrible thing sc, horrible horrible!!

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 09, 2007, 03:15:34 PM
now now fellas no need to get all het up! ;D

i think jody is doin the right thing at this time of the year.
hes trying to blood new players to see what theyve got
he brought on the more experienced boys in the second half to settle the thing down
a bit when we were under pressure.
if he can blood new players and still get a result then fair play to him
he has done what many before couldnt achieve.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 09, 2007, 03:17:42 PM
I dont think Slim will represent Antrim seniors either, he cant even kick the ball out properly :P
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 09, 2007, 03:24:16 PM
 :D where or when did i say that i would?! i know i wont! But i also wont say that a player who performs consistently for his club after his 1st year as a senior player for Antrim isnt good enough. And if i did and he turned round and scored 4 points in his next game I'd have the balls to say I was wrong!!

also, if I did say he wasn't good enough I'd surely be able to give the names of those who should be in his place?????

culchy, why in under f**k do you write all yer posts like a poem?!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 09, 2007, 03:26:22 PM
One of the 7 deadliest sins slim.

My, you are very protective arent you?!

Is he your boyfriend?!

Ok, just for the record. My point was that: thus far, Close hasn't done it against the better teams in the bigger games. FACT.
But I also did say, that I look forward to the lad maturing into a good inter-county player. And I do believe that is a strong possibility, but not a formality.


Ok defintely subject closed from me.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 09, 2007, 03:27:57 PM
you didnt say that!

ok, i will speak very slowly and make it simple for you-

who should be on ahead of Ciaran Close?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 09, 2007, 03:30:29 PM
ollie duffin
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 09, 2007, 03:32:01 PM
sorry slim i cudnt resist!
by the way im cross eyed and can only see one half of the page
thats why i write everything on the left hand side of the page!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 09, 2007, 03:36:39 PM
I didnt say he shouldnt be on you maniac!!

At the minute he's one of the better forwards there. If everyone was available to Jody, he'd still be there-abouts.
If you are confused, read the previous post.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 09, 2007, 03:38:25 PM
I believe that Slim is a terrier dog that wont let go, pretending to be a sub keeper who cant kick the ball out ,who wont ever play for Antrim seniors :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 09, 2007, 03:41:14 PM
pretending to be  ;)

yer right culchy, he's no Ollie Duffin. But he could give Budgie McCann a run for his money!!

you said he wasn't good enough against the big teams-FACT. if he isnt good enough against them he shouldnt be there now, that makes sense. so, who would you bring in as manager that would do a better job against these 'big' teams?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 09, 2007, 03:47:07 PM
shady character you what your called, and your from creggan.

you totally contradict yourself everytime you post
your not slagging off close but you say he isnt good enuf
huh!!

try being constructive in your criticism
by putting forward a resolution to all our problems.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 09, 2007, 03:55:49 PM
No wrong Culchie. I did not contradict myself.

What I said was that in the 4 or so big games Close has played for Antrim he hasnt played well.
Am I lying?

And everytime I went on to say that he has the potential to improve to be a good inter-county player. Where is the contradiction there?
He has shown it for cargin and against the lesser county sides. My position has always been that :

1) More than good enough to be there
2) Needs to improve game this year come championship

My point about him being a poor choice for captain was not a reflection on his ability as a player, but rather a leader.

So don't get caught up in Slims little infactuation with CC!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 09, 2007, 03:57:05 PM
Slim And Closey up a tree :D :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 09, 2007, 04:03:06 PM
of course I'll stick up for him, he's a mate as well as a clubmate!

but here is what you've said about him-read for yourself-

A grand wee footballer, better that I ever was, but hasnt cut it yet at county level.

ciaran close cant do it against good opposition

and sure an excellent wee free taker but not a force from play at county level

not a leader...a good club player and good free-tker. Full-stop.


but now he's more than good enough to be there  :D ;D

Max, away on with ye, theres a tatoo artist in Belfast who's ordered a batch of CPM08 stencils in and he's waiting on your call!!  :D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 09, 2007, 04:05:56 PM
Slim and Closey up a tree
giving hand jobs and
all for free :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 09, 2007, 04:11:06 PM
ok shady, but you say close isnt good enuf against the bigger teams, but who is, who in your disturbed mind is as good as or better than close
against the so called bigger teams.

the fact is we arent kerry, we dont breed all-stars every year!
ciaran close is one of if not the best forwards in county antrim, comprondi !!
unless you know something we, being the rest of the county, dont please let us in on your, very well kept, secret weapon!!
comprondi mcfly!!

dont just keep repeating yourself saying that your not repeating yourself!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 09, 2007, 04:11:14 PM
dont see anything wrong with that.

I said at the minute (current panel considered) he's more than good enough to be on.

Ok maybe "cant do it" was too damning. So lets change that to: hasnt done it, but can do better.
Redemption is a wonderful thing. Still doesnt change what I said about the lads performances to date for Antrim on the big day.
But heres hoping.



Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 09, 2007, 04:13:52 PM
nice to finally have gotten through that thick bonce of yours!!  :D :D

I was right and you were wrong, apology accepted.  :)

now, moving on.....
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 09, 2007, 04:20:00 PM
There once was wee wan called Slim
Who hailed from the townland of Toome
His English was blue
His graciousness not true
But his chances of plaing is still Slim.



 :D :D :D :D :P
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 09, 2007, 04:24:40 PM
Ok Culchie. Get out of Slims back side for a minute.

My repittition is merely me replying to Slim asking the same questions over and over.
Do you disagree with what I said about his performances? Dont fret Slim can take it!

Yes hes up there with the top 8 forwards in antrim, but it doesnt mean he shouldnt need to improve his game.
I refuse to name players who aslo havent done it. But to answer your question indirectly. Forwrds who have done it on the big day for antrim that are there currently: Brady, Magill, and did big Paul Doc not bag a couple against cavan 1 day?

But maybe our county are cursed. No Mcgourty, Madden, O'Boyle, Stewart, Micko, Kelly etc Granted herron and stewart never committed, so we don't know.
So maybe its time for others to step up to the mark.





Title: All-Ireland Club Hurling Semi-Final's
Post by: aontroim on January 10, 2007, 11:15:20 AM
SUNDAY 11th FEBRUARY 2007

All-Ireland Club JHC Semi-Final
SKEHANA (GALWAY) v CLOONEY GAELS (ANTRIM) - [MULLINGAR, 12:45pm]

All-Ireland Club SHC Semi-Final
LOUGHREA (GALWAY) v RUAIRI ÓG, CUSHENDALL (ANTRIM) - [MULLINGAR, 2:30pm]

All-Ireland Club IHC Semi-Final
KILLIMORDALY (GALWAY) v GORT NA MÓNA (ANTRIM) - [NAVAN, 1:00pm]

SLight advantage to the Galway teams for the mullingar games - no need for hotels and the like for them - cant see the antrim clubs going down the morning of the matches.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: FreeTaker on January 10, 2007, 05:13:10 PM
whats wrong the slims arent fightin 2day??

anyways lets get another debate started here.  who do use think will win div1, div2, div, and div4 football.  div1, div2 and div3 hurling?.  sfc, ifc, and jfc.  shc, ihc and jhc.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 10, 2007, 05:14:19 PM
jeez man, thats a long debate with all them leagues. I'll tell you tomorrow!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on January 10, 2007, 06:16:27 PM
Will have to wait to see who is in the leagues first before guessing winners - prob not much change in football but i can see yet another shake up in the hurling.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: FreeTaker on January 10, 2007, 06:52:38 PM
thats very gud point der.  i heard the hurling leagues cud the changed.
just heard a few more managerial appointment have been made in the south west:
portglenone- paddy downey
tir na nog- gary coleman
moneyglass- mickey hughes
cargin- jc devlin
rasharkin- enda quinn
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on January 11, 2007, 12:21:41 AM
Quote
tir na nog- gary coleman
  ;D - whatcu talkin about willis?

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Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 11, 2007, 12:30:36 PM
any word of what the team is for sunday against donegal in mckenna cup ?

any clubs started pre-season training yet!!
are creggan and st paul's the only two antrim teams in the ulster football league.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 11, 2007, 12:34:26 PM
we're in it. haven't trained yet either!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: loughshore lad on January 11, 2007, 12:38:08 PM
Culchy

Who is the moortown man taking Rasharkin? Is it fudgie?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 11, 2007, 12:49:58 PM
Enda Quinn.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 11, 2007, 12:53:00 PM
Paddy Downey for the Ports....ambitious outfit the Ports :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 11, 2007, 12:58:03 PM
no sorry l'shore lad, i was mistaken when i was last speakin to you.
i was told it was fudgie quinn, but it is actually enda quinn.
he took the moortowns minors and u21's to grade 2 championships over the last lot of years.
he isnt that old, maybe early 30's. hes been down to meet the players a couple of weeks ago.
i dont want 2 scud him but i think he'll do a good job, well couldnt do any worse than last year.
do know who he is. i know theres a lock o quinns up round the lough l'shore lad.

is this ur first year entering ulster league slim, spose it wud be better than havin to arrange friendlies,
not that yous wud have another bother gettin opposition. starts bit early though, think it starts 4th feb.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 11, 2007, 01:46:37 PM
starts 4th Feb yeah, and it is indeed our first year in it. The last group games are early March anyhow.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: FreeTaker on January 11, 2007, 03:34:39 PM
Club Managers continued:

st galls- sean mc gourty
st pauls- eddie mc toal
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 11, 2007, 03:35:33 PM
Is that Daddy Mc Gourty?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 11, 2007, 03:38:08 PM
as far as i know sean will not be the manager. position has not been filled in club for senior manager
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 11, 2007, 03:45:26 PM
Re club managers etc, a lot of different faces from last year.

Is Mc Toal and JC the only two still there from last year?

What about Lamh Dearg, any news yet from the top of the hill?

Whats the inside track on Downey. Max, you def dont seem to be a fan.  Will he bring in a right hand man, and if so who? Will he bring out the best in Portglenone?

Whats the view from Moneyglass, didnt he do a spell there?

And will Quinn take Rasharkin on a bit. Whats his credentials?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 11, 2007, 04:03:39 PM
Downey was a complete disaster last year, it wasnt the fact that we got beat in the championship it was his organisation and the actual poor performance of the team that reflected badly on him.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 11, 2007, 04:57:37 PM
Portglenone should be a good test for him. They still see themselves as a top three or four team at worst. Time will tell tho!
Big year for them both.

Incidentally, Antrim could be interesting this year. Creggan, Lamh Dearg and St Pauls will all be pushing on this year too, so there will be a lot of tight meaningful games to look forward to, even allowing for the battle between the big two, Cargin and St Galls.

Think the standard in Antrim is improving all the time. St Galls raised the bar, and Cargin matched that intensity. Can any of the chasing pack close the gap, or is it going to open up further in the next few years?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on January 11, 2007, 05:24:18 PM
I hear creggan are training 2 nights a week already, they are keen and I think they pulling out all the stops to finish in the top 8 off the league by all accounts.Talking to a fella called Mc Quillian at work,he tells me Enda Quinn is the up and coming manager in tyrone
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Cromagh on January 11, 2007, 08:35:14 PM
Downey at Portglenone - my god........they are a real knowledgeable outfit that lot.....

They have had some top managers......Gerry McPeake, Black Eddie, Kevin Kidd ;D and now paddy downey

Enough said. They deserve all they get - People who never succeed at Bellaghy in Management  - add that with the players who they took from Bellaghy reserves -  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 12, 2007, 11:21:06 AM
hightower, ur mates at works nickname wudnt be sweetchuck wud it! ha ha ha.

i dont honestly know much about enda, just what ive heard and he was down one nite talkin to the players.
but he certainly has made an impression from all that i have seen of him.
looking forward to see how all the others react to him when we start trainin.
as you wud expect hes big into the tyrone way of playin football.

hopefully we can give div 2 a good shout this year if not win it, im not for presuming we will because in div 2 its a real battle.
but on the positive we have owen quinn and jarlath (chisel) mooney back this year after a year in oz.
Title: Antrim v Donegal
Post by: aontroim on January 12, 2007, 11:32:59 AM
1. John Finucane
2. Damien Gault
3. Colin Brady
4. Lawrence Higgins
5. Sean McVeigh
6. Gavin Bell
7. Niall Ward
8. Joe Quinn
9. Darrel Martin
10. Aodhan Gallagher
11. Michael McCann
12. Chris Lynch
13. Ciaran Close (Capt.)
14. Kevin Brady
15. Michael Rea

Not much change from last weekend apart from Goals and 2 forwards.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 12, 2007, 11:35:58 AM
Brady can only strengthen the team, I'd imagine he'll be in good enough shape fitness wise and has a wealth of experience in what is a relatively inexperienced side.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on January 12, 2007, 12:52:05 PM
Culcy, don't know his nickname but M Mc Quillan was telling me Raymond Munroe was looking him to go with him with one of the Tyrone development squads so he must know something.Is the manager who was over the Loup last year going with P Downey at Portglenone forget his name thou
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 12, 2007, 01:15:38 PM
Was  Delargey not thrown out of consideration for the Portglenone job for trying to tap up Michael Magill ! Looks like the evergreen Frankie Doherty will be the man entrusted to assist Downey with the task of bringing the Antrim Championship to Portglenone. Would expect Kevin O Kane to be involved in some capacity, wasnt he Downeys right hand man at Bellaghy.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 12, 2007, 01:20:03 PM
He was, his communication skills remind me of Slim, one liners and insulting
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on January 12, 2007, 01:37:54 PM
Max you musn't have a pile of time for K O'Kane ala Black Eddie or ex Bellaghy players "G Mc Peake or P Downey" and I think Johnjoe must have inside info on Portglenone he seems to know alot.Went to school with F Doherty's son Owen,was he not involved with county minor setup for a few good years
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 12, 2007, 01:41:59 PM
All wrong, like the guys the best, were talking football here, not personalities
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on January 12, 2007, 03:12:37 PM
Was K O'Kane manager in94-95 season when he got yous to an All-Ireland which turned out to be a lottery on the day given the conditions.G McPeake was he not involved with the team that Crossmalina beat in an All-Ireland semi,they must know something about football M AX
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on January 12, 2007, 03:21:08 PM
Johnjoe I think I heard something about that'Delargey thing',he must have thought he was in the Premiership,but I hear he's a good enough manager?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 12, 2007, 03:32:12 PM
Wrong on all counts. Tommy Doherty was the manager, O'Kane his assistant. Quinn,Diamond and Cassidy called the shots, did the training and the talking. Mc Peake wasn't near the management when we got to the semi final that Croosmalina won
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on January 12, 2007, 03:44:55 PM
Max My mistake,was S Birt and G McPeake not joint managers or was McPeake just a water carrier like O'Kane was when crossmalina beat them?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 12, 2007, 03:47:22 PM
Mc Peake was assistant to Birt in 98. Look....the bellaghy taem of that time any person who had a reasonable idea about football and discipline would have won a championship because of the quality...except of course for that man Chris Brown
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: thewatercarrier on January 12, 2007, 04:02:21 PM
K O'Kane couldn't have had anything to do with a good footballing team. Was he not under the Antrim minors for something like 5 years without a win? As for F Delargy awful manager, awful motivator! Heard at the Loup he was basically a figure-head, nothing more. McBride ad Mcflynn ran he team.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 12, 2007, 04:37:22 PM
Water carrier, thats a good positive first post. O`Kane shite, Delargey shite!!

Never heard anyone say anything good about O`Kane, and he has been round the block a fair bit. But in fairness I`ve heard some good reports about Delargey as a coach and a manager. Was talking to a few of the Loup lads and he recoved after a wobbly start to finish quite strong, and thats coming from both of the lads you mentioned earlier( Mc Bride and Mc Flynn).

Wouldnt imagine it would have been an easy assignment, sandwiched between O`Rourke and Barton, but you cant say they had a bad year with a second place finish in the league. Maybe the Loup could do without a manager at all, if the players are going to call the shots. Have you a personal grudge against O`Kane or Delargy, cause you were very quick in there for your first post?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on January 12, 2007, 05:04:53 PM
Now now I take it you don't get oil from O'Kane fuels watercarrier,you are starting to sound like big bad MAX next thing you'll be posting poems about them
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 12, 2007, 11:06:26 PM
all this shite talk about Derry managers in antrim so what. all these teams need to put the effort in, and if they are up to the standard come august then yeah it might have been worth the money paying for these guys
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 15, 2007, 09:53:34 AM
good to see some newcomers, well some of them have been around for a brave while now, are showing well in the mckenna cup.
fair play to beller, i see he got the starman in the irish news this morn even though we got beat.
and paddy logan back in the saffron jersey, he used to win games on his own at underage, he has had back luck with injuries so lets hope paddys back to his best.
was anyone at the match?

i see also the u21s played donegal 2 matches on sat with 2 different teams and won both.
the only worrying thing for me is that tomas mccann, played for u21s on sat and then came on for seniors yesterday.
he shudnt have to do this.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 15, 2007, 09:56:15 AM
if he was given the choice Tomas would have played both anyhow- he can't get enough football!!

wasn't at the game but heard it was a crap game though Antrim done well considering they played most of the game with 14 men after Higgins was sent off.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on January 16, 2007, 12:28:02 PM
I see Sambo & Woody are blooding on their minors while the 'Dall contingent are absent.....

Antrim v Down Senior Hurling Challenge 15 January 2007

Antrim and Down senior hurlers played a friendly on Saturday 13th Jan at Mallusk in very wintery conditions.

Down started brightest with a goal and a point before Antrim replied with their first point through Johnny McIntosh, followed up by ponts from Kieran Kelly, Karl Stewart, and McIntosh again. Paul Shields then scored a goal and point for Antrim with McIntosh adding a goal to his tally before half time. Down had scored a goal plus 2 further points to leave the score at half time Antrim 2-5 v 2-2 Down.

Conditions worsened in the 2nd half with both teams making many changes at half time. Antrim scored another 6 points in the second half through Liam Watson, Paddy Doherty, Paul Shields, and Johnny Campbell while Down added another goal to leave the final score Antrim 2-11 v Down 3-2.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on January 16, 2007, 04:22:37 PM
I think these lads would benifit more from a years club hurling rather than going straight in to Senior. Take a look at what Ross Carr is doing in Down. He is deliberately not selecting the star minor players from a couple of years ago so they can enjoy their football for a year or two before they are ready to be called in at 21/22. Both Shortie and Paddy are dual players and have had a hard two years slog already in the minor ranks (shortie in particualar). Paddy Doc has still to prove his worth at Senior level for his club so why include him in a County Squad at such a young age? Dinny did this with Darren Quinn for 3 years and he's still not the hurler everybody expected him to be for the simple reason (IMO) that he sat on the bench for 3 years instead of cutting his teeth with his club first. I do think Darren will come though. Shortie is a class act, but he needs to fill out and that will take time. I think this is not in the best interests of the player for him to be included

Were there any other minors playing on Saturday?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on January 16, 2007, 05:31:52 PM
Randal McDonnell was also playing (minor 2 years ago?)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 17, 2007, 11:13:36 AM
 Just got word that the old south Antrim hurling leagues will be starting up again, this will be good providing all clubs participate this time and all the hassles of the previous attempts fixed. Refereeing was always the problem and a lot of teams couldn’t be bother to turn up.

This was the main reason why we (Naomh Gall) asked to play in All County leagues, but if there is good numbers for the league then it should bring more hurling into Belfast…….. Any Thoughts?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 17, 2007, 12:28:32 PM
i hear that the div2/3 debacle between rossa and glenavy will be resolved in the next 24/48 hours.
i wonder what outcome they have come up with.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 17, 2007, 05:19:03 PM
rossa always seem to be involved in some sort of arguments, Am I right that a few years ago they refused to be relegated from ACFL Div1 and the county board accomodated them by making it a 11 team league that next season
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on January 18, 2007, 08:26:23 AM
That would be right, they threatened to pull their players off the county panels if they were relegated and the county stated they wouldn't be relegated due to their services to the county!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Hurley man on January 18, 2007, 09:32:29 AM
Has anyone in North Antrim been able to get a copy of Gaelic Life yet? I seen the ad on TV last night. It's out on a Friday.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on January 18, 2007, 09:35:42 AM
i've got it both weeks its been out its in a Newsagents in Ballymoney

I'd be pretty sure it would be in the shops in Dunloy too.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 18, 2007, 09:41:21 AM
aye its available at all good newsagents,although they are few and far between in north antrim!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on January 18, 2007, 10:36:42 AM
How many clubs in Antrim would be back training yet?

My own club haven't had the AGM yet so it'll be a couple of weeks before we're back
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Hurley man on January 18, 2007, 11:16:13 AM
aye its available at all good newsagents,although they are few and far between in north antrim!

Do you mean that good newsagents are "few and far between" or there is not many copies of Gaelic Life. What did you think of it?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Hurley man on January 18, 2007, 11:17:29 AM
aye its available at all good newsagents,although they are few and far between in north antrim!

Do you mean that good newsagents are 'few and far between" or there's few copies of Gaelic Life. What did you think of it?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 18, 2007, 11:20:47 AM
Think he means good hurlers are few and far between in North Antrim!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 18, 2007, 11:25:50 AM
okocha where in the hell have you been hiding!
how have you been getting on with the county/uni in the mckenna cup?

well the best hurlers in antrim are from the north coast, have been for the last two years!!

sorry caman man i meant the newsagents are pretty shite in n.antrim.
paper itself is a good read.
was there not something very similar out a couple of years ago or is it the same paper!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Hurley man on January 18, 2007, 11:37:06 AM
okocha where in the hell have you been hiding!
how have you been getting on with the county/uni in the mckenna cup?

well the best hurlers in antrim are from the north coast, have been for the last two years!!

sorry caman man i meant the newsagents are pretty shite in n.antrim.
paper itself is a good read.
was there not something very similar out a couple of years ago or is it the same paper!

I think this paper is based in Tyrone and although there's a lot of football in it at the moment,, I've heard that they plan to give hurling a good dig when the league starts up. I would be nice to have a good paper for us all. Yes there was another similar style paper a few years ago but Gaelic Life is from a different company. Was checking out their website www.gaeliclife.com.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Sky Blue on January 18, 2007, 11:40:32 AM
Are you yet another one who works for them Hurley man or the same guy who used 3 or 4 names to raise publicity already! Pathetic attempts at marketing.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 18, 2007, 11:58:17 AM
Hiding is the correct word, in case big Magill gets me! Anyway, good to see he is training away at the minute, and hopefully he sticks one in the Derry net come June, and turn round and say "stick that Johnjoe". Even better if its the winner in injury time!

N e way, to tell you the truth Im not on Jodys panel at all, or never was. Bit like Max, wouldnt be up to that standard at all. Just a wee smokescreen to gets the hounds off the scent. Still have the three security guards round the clock tho!

Apart from that Culchie all is good. Has your man Quinn started the big comeback trail in Rasharkin yet, and whats he like?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 18, 2007, 12:14:39 PM
we havent started yet, think we start sunday week, he seems good enuf havent seen much of him but he has the right attitude anyhow.

what bout ursel, do you still play or have you hung up the boots, to be a barstool general.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 18, 2007, 12:38:53 PM
Its the barstool all the way Culchie. Easier on the limbs, harder on the pocket!

Would be an Antrim man thru and thru, but like yourself, living near the Bann, I`d have an interest in the Derry scene too. Could be an interesting year, getting Derry in senior, minor and u-21 this year. Think we could win a couple of them at least. Bring them on, they are ripe for the takin!

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 18, 2007, 01:47:09 PM
wud i be correct in assuming ur from portglenyin, then!

 8)

all the same okocha wudnt be a name associated with there!! :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: loughshore lad on January 18, 2007, 01:53:52 PM
we havent started yet, think we start sunday week, he seems good enuf havent seen much of him but he has the right attitude anyhow.

what bout ursel, do you still play or have you hung up the boots, to be a barstool general.

Culchy was chatting to a few moortown men at the weekend and asked about Enda Quinn. All had a good word for him - managed their minors to a grade 2 or 3 minor championship in 2005 and apparently is quite good from a tactical view point, that particular panel only had 17 players and apparently he utilised all 17 extremely well running players in and out of games through out the year. The consensus was he should do a good enough job for yous!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 18, 2007, 02:10:25 PM
Aye, Culchie, sure youd that sussed a long time ago. Wouldn`t be involved with them on any sort of regular basis, but I have a couple of kids at the club, juvenile camogie and underage football. Your detective work is going well today! Might have to up the security arrangements!

At least the thread is moving better. Mind you it could be jazzed up a bit more when the season starts for earnest. The content on the Derry board will make for good crack in the coming months too. Bet we were the one draw they really didnt want. Do you think we can take them?

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 18, 2007, 02:40:24 PM
och sure its all a bit of craic as long as no one gets too personal!

of course we can beat them, heres hoping for a good nfl, to get us well ready for them.
our boys are every bit as good as them, just not as committed, but maybe jody can change our way of thinking.
the thing is i dont see derry having a good nfl, so they will be comin into the game on the back of a bad run.
winning breeds confidence.
but we have to believe.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Great Leap Forward on January 18, 2007, 02:49:44 PM
Has anybody heard what the spirit in the Antrim camp is under Gormley? There were rumours of discontent surfacing after a few months of Culbert's reign. From what I have heard he is training them hard.

It's good to see McGreevy back. He is among the best goalkeepers in Ulster. Thon Murray boy had a bit too much of the Rene Higuita about him.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 18, 2007, 03:09:08 PM
heard everyone is knuckling down to business, just gettin on with it.

i suppose there are no prima donnas on the squad at present, which helps, and no interviews with the press of late either!
jody wants to keep everything on the qt!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: goldenyears on January 18, 2007, 03:10:58 PM
what do you boys think of hugh mcgettigan?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 18, 2007, 03:52:53 PM
Lads lets be realistic, Antrim are not gonna be a threat until they sort out the mid-field area, Joe Quinn is still there, lets be honest, he's not really good enough at that level, he is a big strong lad, but his delivery to the forwards is rubbish, he cant score, In my apinon one of the reasons Antrim have struggled in resent years was due to the lack of quality ball into the reasonably acurate forwards, and to me Joe is one of the Culprits, what about Mick McCann & Kevin "the brat" McCourty or even a fit Paddy Logan
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffron on January 18, 2007, 04:04:03 PM
Quote
what do you boys think of hugh mcgettigan?

Did/does he teach in St Marys?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 18, 2007, 04:33:14 PM
Unfortunately we are not over blessed with natural mid-fielders. Big Joe can still pull out a big display, but he should not be allowed to use the foot too much. Eddie Quinn has been the best mid-fielder in the county for the last 10-12 years, but chose not to play for the county. Mick mc Cann is a decent prospect for sure, but you`d nearly need to be 6`3 or 6`4 to go in against an O`Shea, Whelan or Mc Grane.

Still, those two are definitely the best we have at the moment, and sadly, I cant think of too many in the 18-22 year old group thats going to change that any time soon. Interestingly, big Seamus Mc Cluskey might step into big Eddie`s shoes - not a bad player at all. I know he`s raw, but he can field a ball, and he`s ignorant enough for mid-field. What`s your opinion Slim?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 18, 2007, 04:36:13 PM
By the way slim , has there been any retirements from the Cargin Set up, ie Wiggs, Michael Johnson or Big Eddie, whats the news
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 19, 2007, 08:39:25 AM
Seamy McCloskey is a good prospect, so too is Gerard McCann who is a good 3 inches taller than Big Seamy! Played midfield for the County minors last year but has been dogged with injury since. Both need a year or two on our senior team before thinking about the county but they are certainly 2 for the future.

Mick McCann could mix it with anyone at midfield, he might not be 6' 4'' but he has a serious leap on him and is a top class fielder. Great score-getter too.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 19, 2007, 09:56:39 AM
Ta Slim. Thats right, youse have Gerard Mc Cann too - forgot completely all about him. Thats a serious bunch of young fellas coming through there at the minute. Mick, Tomas, Gerard, KOB, Justy, big Seamy,- all look like county players for the next 10 years!

And more to the point, three of them are mid-fielders too!! Future starting to look green all right. Thats good for the county though, and its now up to other clubs to get up to the Cargin and St Galls standard.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 19, 2007, 10:17:52 AM
Cargin seem to have alot of young talent coming through, Kevin O'Boyle is an excellant footballer, that's a credit to the coaches and coaching structure in Cargin, what's wrong with the rest of the county, where is this talent, is that maybe the other clubs do not have the youth or is it that the fault lies with the coaches or the indeed with the clubs coaching structure, I am pretty sure its not the loughshore air thats makes the differnce in cargin
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 19, 2007, 10:35:44 AM
There are plenty more young lads coming through as well round our way, this years minor team has a lot of talent in it and the following year will see 4 or 5 big strong lads in it. Another McCann on the way through is Paul, played for the U21's this year and is minor next year- one to watch.

Kevin O'Boyle will be out for a while yet, needs an operation but hopefully he'll be ok. would love to see him mark Paddy Bradley in June!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 19, 2007, 10:39:27 AM
Slim is there any retirements from the cargin senior team
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 19, 2007, 10:41:09 AM
from last year? nope. none that have said so anyhow. training started on Wednesday past and everyone was there, even the odd new face  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on January 19, 2007, 11:50:48 AM
Taken from antrim website.....


Quote
Jody Gormley has named his Antrim side to face UUJ in the last group game of the Gaelic Life Dr. McKenna Cup.

1. Sean McGreevy
2. Conor McGoldrick
3. Colin Brady
4. Niall Ward
5. Chris Lynch
6. Gavin Bell
7. Sean McVeigh
8. Joe Quinn
9. Aodhan Gallagher
10. Tony Scullion
11. Kevin Brady
12. Hugh McKay
13. Ciaran Close (Capt.)
14. Michael McCann
15. Micheal Magill

Four Antrim players make their first starts of the competition – Conor McGoldrick comes in at corner back, and Tony Scullion, Hugh McKay and Michael Magill are all introduced into a re-arranged forward line.

The game against the students of UUJ takes place in Casement park on Sunday 21st January with a 2:00pm throw-in.

Big split Counry Forwards v City defenders/midfield (bar McVeigh)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 19, 2007, 11:52:58 AM
Taken from antrim website.....


Quote
Jody Gormley has named his Antrim side to face UUJ in the last group game of the Gaelic Life Dr. McKenna Cup.

1. Sean McGreevy
2. Conor McGoldrick
3. Colin Brady
4. Niall Ward
5. Chris Lynch
6. Gavin Bell
7. Sean McVeigh
8. Joe Quinn
9. Aodhan Gallagher
10. Tony Scullion
11. Kevin Brady
12. Hugh McKay
13. Ciaran Close (Capt.)
14. Michael McCann
15. Micheal Magill

Four Antrim players make their first starts of the competition – Conor McGoldrick comes in at corner back, and Tony Scullion, Hugh McKay and Michael Magill are all introduced into a re-arranged forward line.

The game against the students of UUJ takes place in Casement park on Sunday 21st January with a 2:00pm throw-in.

Big split Counry Forwards v City defenders/midfield (bar McVeigh)


 :o
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on January 19, 2007, 12:02:08 PM
Thought that looked a bit strange alright Slim - will he just get a free rols about the middle to scrap for ball or has he played forwards for you's before?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 19, 2007, 12:05:14 PM
never played forwards for us before-ever!!

i'd say he'll play in around the middle 3rd of the field- Gormley seems to be doing this a lot in the opening games, he plays big men in the HF line and must bunch up the midfield leaving Close and the FF's plenty of room. Hence McKay on the other wing, he's a midfileder.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 19, 2007, 12:14:07 PM
full forward line looks good!

slim you were saying earlier about mick mccanns fielding, i mine him a couple of years ago you's played galls in portglenyin
it was a very tight match, mick was in at full forward, a high ball was put in,came down with snow on it, mick rise a good couple feet above his man,
turned and hit the back of the net, great piece of skill.

im sure there will be plenty of changing during the match on sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 19, 2007, 12:17:41 PM
great goal alright, won the game that goal- G O'Boyle scored a couple of crackers that day too.

surprised you're here culchy and not at home applying yer fake tan for tonights prestigious dinner dance.

watch that chain outside arbys, b**tard thing got me 6 stitches!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 19, 2007, 12:29:09 PM
yes, he's back indeed.

I'm not one for the limelight myself-you cant really refuse a cameraman when presenting an award!!

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 19, 2007, 01:29:23 PM
I heard Big Eddie & Mick Johnson had hung up there senior boots
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 19, 2007, 01:33:18 PM
lads what club is Ethan the Searcher from?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 19, 2007, 01:39:05 PM
if you heard it then its true!!

i wouldnt count on it all the same.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 19, 2007, 01:42:44 PM
Slim what are the approx ages of the aforementioned players
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 19, 2007, 01:44:41 PM
Big Ed would be about 33/34 and Mickey would be 36/37.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 19, 2007, 01:50:20 PM
ahhhhh. that they were older, avoiding injuries they could play senior football yet, but were are cargin gonna play all this new young talent ????
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 22, 2007, 10:22:04 AM
Slim , apart from JC who seems to be doing the business has any other Manager been as success at Cargin
Culchie , any decent managers in Rasharkin lately, Francis Halferty seems to be successful at underage
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 22, 2007, 10:25:32 AM
are you talking senior level?

our u16s Won the SW League & Championship, which isn't easily won considering playing against the amalgamated Sean Stinsons outfit!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 22, 2007, 10:44:57 AM
sorry slim , just seniors
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 22, 2007, 10:47:20 AM
well before JC & Co we had Kevin O'Kane (was shite) and then Danny Quinn & Matthew Gribben (v poor)

previously John Brennan was the last to win the Championship in 99/2000
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 22, 2007, 10:52:22 AM
was danny not a good coach or was just v poor alround, just he seems to have a reputation for being a quality coach
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 22, 2007, 10:57:26 AM
ethan, i'm still under the impression that you are indeed Maximus Marrilius so you know my thoughts on this already!

you can run but you cant hide!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 22, 2007, 11:14:50 AM
whatever you think,
You must be reading to much Sherlock Holmes stories,  >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 22, 2007, 11:19:29 AM
Slim, somebody has been messing with ur head.....again
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 22, 2007, 11:24:07 AM
Yep, whatever you say.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 22, 2007, 11:31:44 AM
Slim - max seems to have made you very paranoid, mention Danny Quinn and you clam up, keep taking the prozac
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 22, 2007, 12:10:34 PM
double e and max, what do you's bellaghy men have against slim !
ganging up on him, do you's not know eachother bein from the same place or used to be !


ethan, our best senior manager over the last while would be paddy mcneill, under him we finished 4th in league and got to championship semi-final.
apart from that, ciaran loane took us up from div 2 before he was good, but his health hampered him at that time,
colm rocks,from loup, took us for 3/4 months he had right idea, but left because players attitude was shite, as did damian o'boyle last year. not there long to get a fair reflection.
and kevin kidd took us last year, he did alrite with portglenone but dont think he is any good, we got relegated last year under him.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 22, 2007, 12:18:00 PM
Kevin Kidd has done the rounds....boy is he crap,,,still manages to get the phone call
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 22, 2007, 03:13:44 PM
Cluchie, you are the 1st man that I've heard praise Paddy McNeill as a manager, he is said to be a very good fitness coach but once a football is introduced he is appartently lost, Paddy is a good lad though, was the relegation all down to Kidd to you think, and as Max says he does get about a bit, is he with anyone this year
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 22, 2007, 04:44:25 PM
Not much detail about yesterdays game from an Antrim perspective. Anyone on the thread at the game? Anyone have a good game?

Looking at the match reports, 8 Antrim players featured for the various universities, must be a long time since this happened before this year. ( Doc, Micko, Paddy Cunningham, Loughrey, Crozier, Niblock, McGourty, and young CJ.)

Kevin O Boyle is still out hurt, or he could have made it 9. Theres no doubt some good things are starting to happen in Antrim football. Good to see Micko concentrating on it too at the minute. For the first time I can remember, there is the nucleus of 20-30 players good enough to play high level inter county football. Certainly we should get a strong 15 out of it for the c`ship, especially if Kelly and Convery return too.





Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 22, 2007, 04:53:05 PM
Cluchie, you are the 1st man that I've heard praise Paddy McNeill as a manager, he is said to be a very good fitness coach but once a football is introduced he is appartently lost, Paddy is a good lad though, was the relegation all down to Kidd to you think, and as Max says he does get about a bit, is he with anyone this year

wee paddy maybe isnt the best manager, but he is the best we have had or should i put it like this we got the best results with him in charge, he is a tough taskmaster.
you would be right in saying that he is big into fitness. ask any of the county players from last year.
no kidd wasnt all to blame for getting relegated, the players have to take the blame also, but even as late as the playoff he didnt make changes soon enough, he stuck with the same boys all year and wouldnt give others a chance. he applied to take us this year again but enda quinn got the nod instead.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 22, 2007, 04:59:56 PM
Rasharkin will be expecting immediate promotion, its never easy winning leagues, easier to stay up than get up, your ex-pats will be back to bolster your panel though
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: amninc on January 23, 2007, 09:32:04 AM
Match on sun - sean mc veigh , christy lynch very good.  Michael mccann and micael magill showed well (Mccann should be mid of park), kevin Brady came into it well near the end of the second half.  Midfield were dominated as was majority of half back line - but you have to take into consideration j'town are near sigerson and are flying.  Any other views.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: illdecide on January 23, 2007, 01:19:19 PM
Hi lads Slimshady was on our site (Armagh club football) talking shite, i see he's doing the same on the Antrim one.  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 23, 2007, 01:35:05 PM
Fao: I'll decide

And you thought you wud come on here to tell us that?

Clear off toss pot.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: illdecide on January 24, 2007, 08:37:12 AM
Hi shady who the F**k rattled your cage you c**k box, sorry if i interrupted your conversations about what its like to win a championship match. Stick your Antrim thread up your arse >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 24, 2007, 02:29:06 PM
What a load of shite lads.

Have a look at Derrys page today, and the level of sensible debate. Sometimes you get good enough craic/debate here, but most of the time its negative and childish.

Heres one for you.

Do you think John Mc Sparran is a good county chairman? Has he delivered on his pre-election promises? Do you care?

Keep it constructive please.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 24, 2007, 02:33:20 PM
no, in a word.

the fixtures last year were nothing short of a disgrace. Playing an U21 championship the week before Christmas is ludicrous as well as not allowing for a drawn SFC Final and having it played to extra time- and if it had been drawn the winners may have been asked to play the USFC 1st round the day after the replay!!!  ;D :D

so on that basis, no.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 24, 2007, 04:24:19 PM
I was talking to John about these problems in the not to distant past and he assured me that he had every ambition to fix these problems, but that it was going to take time to break down the very top heavy committee way things are currently conducted in Antrim. He said it would take at least another year to remodel the county board structure. maybe ye want to much that cant be delivered that quickly
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 24, 2007, 04:26:29 PM
wanting the Championship Final to be played at a reasonable time of year is too much? Antrim were out of the Championship by the July holidays and we finished the Championship near Halloween!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 24, 2007, 04:27:21 PM
the fixtures problem is not soley down to Dr John, the fecking clubs wont play the matches when they are fixed, they make up of sorts of excuses, I am mainly refering to league matches, the clubs cant always blame the board they must take a look at themselves and stop gerning
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 24, 2007, 05:46:40 PM
Point taken Slim. Liam O Kane has paid the price for the fixtures c**k-up. He is a big loss to the county though. Take a good lok at the county strategic plan, and then tell me we can do without a man like Liam O Kane!

Seriously, make it a priority to get a copy of this document. Liam O kane courted the opinions of every segment of GAA activity in the county, ran seminars, invited written submissions from every club, individual ,or group. His final version not only diagnoses our problems,(which every bar room expert already knows) but has implemented an action plan to remedy. Yes, a timescale, the finance involved, and who is taking actual responsibility fot its deliverance. Its the best road map of its kind in the country, and after a year of burning the midnight oil, and coming up with such a brilliant piece of work, he gets shafted over the one job he didnt want to touch with a bargepole.

The floodlights in Casement were supposed to be on, except for unforeseen planning objections, so a lot of windows were lost to read up the log jam etc. And  of course the one match that needed a result ended up with the draw that cocked things up even further.

Fixtures were a total mess tho, no one can dispute that. But surely JMS has contributed more in a year than his predecessor did in ten! I`d be well impressed with his first year.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 25, 2007, 10:19:50 AM
heard that frankie delargy is to coach glenravel this year with barney reid as manager!

good luck to them both, they'll need it.

also heard that a fella mcgarry from loughiel is for playing football for glenravel this year, he was fullback all year,then dropped for the championship final and has
had a falling out with loughiel, just what i heard maybe speculation.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 25, 2007, 11:02:20 AM
Wish Frankie all the best with Glenravel, as you sy Clunchie it'll be a tough job, I would have thought that Frankie would have wanted to be manager aswell, but there you go
Title: Transfer season
Post by: aontroim on January 25, 2007, 02:29:01 PM
Any major news on inter-club transfers yet - transfer window opened since start of Jan - closes end of Feb.

Havent heard anything concrete yet but there was talk of a lot of McDermotts players going to St. Pauls and of course the Portglenone saga talked about before Christmas.

Anything definite yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffronman on January 25, 2007, 02:30:41 PM
I hear from word up the county that Paddy Logan will be playing for All Saints Ballymena this season, can anyone confirm?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 25, 2007, 02:33:09 PM
no McDees men going anywhere, from what i heard Matt Bradley will be taking them next year
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on January 25, 2007, 06:40:54 PM
i hear he's for casements but now delargy is supposed to be glenravel bound,delargy could now be in for him 'saffronman'
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 26, 2007, 10:04:57 AM
Was talking to a die hard Antrim football supporter last night, who hasnt missed a game fot years. He had been "reasonably" impressed with the displays against Down and Donegal, but reckoned that last Sundays game against UUJ was by far the worst Antrim performance he has ever seen. Thats some statement, because there have been a fair few stinkers in the length of time this person has been following our senior footballers.

Not wanting to dampen any of this new found enthusiasm for the new management team, and I know a lot of players were missing/playing for uni`s etc, but this guy is a good judge, and reckons we are rank outsiders on Sunday against Mick O Dwyers Wicklow who have been re-vitalised. Hope I`m wrong, cause this was one of the few fixtures last year where we got league points, albeit at Casement.

Hope our little bubble will last longer than the first couple of league games!



Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 26, 2007, 10:43:21 AM
Its Official Frank Delargy is new coach at Glenravel but he is not involved in team selection,
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 26, 2007, 11:03:39 AM
I know Frankie right and well, and if he takes on Glenravel, he will put his everything into it.

Most teams have a few players who are county class, and tragically Glenravel lost one of theirs as we all know. Who are their main players outside of O Loan, if he plays, Windows, and an aging Martin Mulholland? Would they be expected to come straight up from div 2?

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on January 26, 2007, 11:46:37 AM
Johnjoe,

Even before what happened to Shaun Paul we weren't expecting to have an easy year as we don't have the players coming through so it could be a couple of years before we're challenging for promotion.
It won't be easy with local derbies against Ballymena and Rasharkin with a few akward trips to belfast, following Shaun Pauls death it will be interesting to see how we react this year
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 26, 2007, 12:13:59 PM
I know Frankie right and well, and if he takes on Glenravel, he will put his everything into it. :D

I love it! Just cheered me up on a Friday John Joe! You are a legend!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 26, 2007, 12:24:17 PM
I know Frankie right and well, and if he takes on Glenravel, he will put his everything into it.

will he be offering LOADSAMONEY to players from other clubs as he ahs done already this Winter???

it seems he's taking Glenravel as a last resort- nobody else will have him  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 26, 2007, 01:20:05 PM
lads. lads, lads, Frankie will be Coach , not manager, and by all accounts he is a very good coach, level 2 I believe, so let he who is without sin cast the 1st stone, on a coaching front
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 26, 2007, 01:31:05 PM
Listen Ethan before you jump off on the wrong track.
I wasn't slating Fd's coaching ability. I just enjoyed John Joe's statement:

I know Frankie right and well  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 26, 2007, 01:34:58 PM
wasnt getting off on any track, just making sure nobody else did, thats all
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 26, 2007, 01:48:20 PM
Whoops.......

Aw f**k it!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: becks on January 28, 2007, 02:22:38 PM
word on the street is that ahoghill have received 5 transfer requests from the logan brothers,  paddy, martin, barney, terry cant mind the other ones name.  They are ment to be goin to ballymena.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on January 29, 2007, 09:34:02 AM
PG1 ultra's??

Are you f**king kiddin me?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on January 29, 2007, 10:01:54 AM
can anyone confirm league start dates. i heard lower divisions start 10th march then div 1 and div 2 start 15th april.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 29, 2007, 03:21:45 PM
Naomh Gall Poker Night
No limit Texas Hold'em
Naomh Gall Clubhouse
Saturday 3rd February at 7:30pm (reg 7:15pm)
£10 Entry. No tickets needed just pay at the door.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: FreeTaker on January 30, 2007, 10:46:22 AM
just heard that all football divisions except div 1, start on the 18th march.  they'll b a few handovers that day!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on January 30, 2007, 01:12:44 PM
Naomh Gall Poker Night
No limit Texas Hold'em
Naomh Gall Clubhouse
Saturday 3rd February at 7:30pm (reg 7:15pm)
£10 Entry. No tickets needed just pay at the door.

Illegal!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 30, 2007, 01:17:21 PM
tell Gerry     :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on January 30, 2007, 01:17:35 PM
no, the shinners said i was ok!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 30, 2007, 01:22:23 PM
Anyone hear any news on the glenravel situation??
Rumour has it Delargy got a better offer somewhere else in Derry.......

Did you here John Joe? You knowin him rite and well and all  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 30, 2007, 02:21:27 PM
Shady, funny enuf I was talking to the man imself during lunchbreak, and he says something about no smoke without fire, and a still waiting on the fat lady to sing. Didnt make any sense out of it at all. Suppose all will be revealed in due course.

Would that be him and Kevin Madden locking horns next year then?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 30, 2007, 02:23:00 PM
I heard Frankie was offered the Swatragh Job but turned it down
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on January 30, 2007, 02:33:28 PM
johnjoe
whos kevin madden taking next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 30, 2007, 02:35:09 PM
Kevin Madden is coaching at Glenullin , not sure if he is manager or not
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: shady character on January 30, 2007, 02:42:18 PM
Sounds interesting JJ. He certainly gets about frankie.

never heard about swa job ethan. This one was further north.
Not sure whether they are top division or not JJ,. to say who he'l b getin horny with  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on January 30, 2007, 03:13:57 PM
I`d say they are top division all-right Shady!!

Baker the manager at Glenullin, Kevin is trainer and coach. Good guy, wish him well. Almost choked there tho.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 31, 2007, 11:50:50 AM
Well John Joe, has your mate Frankie D taken up the reins in Co Derry or not. go ahead you can tell us, your among friends here
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 31, 2007, 12:10:31 PM
Top division north derry side...

Banagher are there and it's obviously not Glenullin.

Dungiven just got relegated as far as I know.

Must be banagher then...
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: hightower on January 31, 2007, 07:07:03 PM
just under 5 hours of the transfer window left frankie D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on January 31, 2007, 07:21:02 PM
is the window not open til end of February  :(
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on February 01, 2007, 12:42:47 AM
The Antrim GAA one is - but FD's style is more akin to the Premiership whos'e window is now closed!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on February 01, 2007, 10:33:43 AM
Top division north derry side...

Banagher are there and it's obviously not Glenullin.

Dungiven just got relegated as far as I know.

Must be banagher then...

yep your right, he thinks he can win them a championship :D
maybe he was offered more money! money talks!!
Title: NFL Antrim v Wicklow
Post by: aontroim on February 01, 2007, 10:55:01 AM
Team for Sunday's game - wont be a guaranteed 2 pts this year - watched Wicklow v Dubs in O'Byrne last weekend and they were much improved under Micko - hopefully though we can start with a win.

1. Sean McGreevey - Naomh Pól
2. Christopher Lynch - Lámh Dhearg
3. Colin Brady - Naomh Gall
4. Conor McGoldrick - Naomh Treasa
5. Sean McVeigh - Naoimh Uile
6. Gavin Bell - Ui Dhonnabhain Rosa
7. Tony Scullion - Clann na hÉireann
8. Joseph Quinn - Naomh Pól
9. Michael McCann - Clann na hÉireann
10. Paul Doherty - Naomh Mhuire (Rasharkin)
11. Kevin Niblock - Naomh Gall
12. Aodhan Gallagher - Naomh Gall
13. Ciaran Close (Capt) - Clann na hÉireann
14. Kevin Brady - Naomh Ergnat
15. Patrick Cunningham - Lámh Dhearg
16. John Finnucane - Lámh Dhearg
17. Darrel Martin - Chiceann An Chreaigin
18. Paul Close - Ui Dhonnabhain Rosa
19. Patrick Logan - Naomh Mhuire (Ahoghill)
20. Oistin McAteer - Na Cicéaimí
21. Laurence Higgins - Naomh Pól
22. James Loughrey - Naomh Bríd
23. Niall Ward - Naomh Pól
24. Michael Rea - Naomh Seosamh
25. Eoin Roe O'Neill - Clann na hÉireann
26. Andrew McClean - Naomh Gall
27. Damien Gault - Naomh Eanna
28. Conor McGourty - Naomh Gall

(Team from from antrim.gaa.ie)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on February 01, 2007, 11:54:23 AM
Good looking team there for Sunday. Best of luck to Jody and the boys.

 



Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 01, 2007, 11:58:13 AM
Can someone shed any light on the rumour that Jeffery Donalson MP is an ardent follower of St Brigids GAC (Belfast), apparently he has attended all there chamionship matches last season, if it is correct , then he has changed his tune, for it was not that long ago he was referring to the GAA "as the IRA at play"
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Guillem2 on February 01, 2007, 12:12:01 PM
Not really a surprise Ethan. In his youth young Jeffery hurled and played football for An Riocht in Kilkeel. When he got into politics he quit. Apparently he was fairly handy at but codes when younger but didn't like the physical side as he got older.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 01, 2007, 12:29:28 PM
jasus I never new it, fair play to the wee b**tard - and does he follow St Brigids
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Guillem2 on February 01, 2007, 12:36:02 PM
He wouldn't miss a match!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on February 01, 2007, 12:42:15 PM
Is this true?  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on February 01, 2007, 01:21:47 PM
hes taking some hand out of ya :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Blacksheep on February 01, 2007, 01:57:53 PM
 :D :D :D
Excellent!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 01, 2007, 02:16:01 PM
Chris Lynch at corner back...

Sure he's an attacking half back or a defensive half forward!!

Cunningham and Close in one team are going to be hard to accomodate - maybe would make the stature of the full forward line a bit too small...
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 01, 2007, 02:24:21 PM
the only similarities between Cunningham and Close is that they are lefty free-takers. Close has more of a buzz about his play than Cunningham who i reckon would be a wilier oponnent.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on February 01, 2007, 03:19:36 PM
do you reckon there will be any diving on Sunday? ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 01, 2007, 03:25:38 PM
milltown, i hear your good friend Culbert (or Michael as you call him!!) is taking a team a brave bit from home this year!!

must be quare travelling expenses  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 01, 2007, 03:40:41 PM
Same old story, Joe Quinn at Midfield, I feel sorry for the full forwards with the supply this man gives they will be feeding off scraps
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on February 01, 2007, 04:24:16 PM
for the love of the game ::)

33p a mile ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 02, 2007, 08:52:13 AM
Don't think it would matter what team we put out, Wicklow will be on a high with Micko's first league game in charge.  Genuinely can't see us coming close to getting anything out of this game, unfortunately.

Still number 28 is an interesting development.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on February 02, 2007, 10:42:29 AM
always the optimist eh, thats coming from a person that calls themself saffron sam2!!

sure isnt it jody's first league game in charge aswell.
whats the point of the team going if we're a cert to get beat.
with that type of mentality we might as well just pull out of the ulster championship and concentrate on the tommy murphy!ffs. >:(

i do agree that no.28 among others are interesting inclusions!
cj, loughrey and the like. i wud have thought a couple more would have been on the panel, but i suppose u can only pick 28.
thought tomas mccann, justy crozier, benny hasson mite have got in there too, but their day will come.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 02, 2007, 11:10:44 AM
Just a few points - IMO
Sean McGreevey (Good Keeper) is a step back, Finucane just have been given the 1 jesrey
Sean McV & Tony Scul all good enough Club players but they are not Halfbacks at county level, Sculiion may do ok in the corner , his delivery is poor, Bell may do OK at  wing half but not at CHB
Joe Quinn - wont even comment
Paul Doc - Big Lad, doesnt use his strength enough - out of his depth at this level
A Gallagher - quick & Strong but lacks enough football skill

These are not personal attcks on these fellas , just points about football

PS I know this is only Jody's 1st League game
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 02, 2007, 11:47:35 AM
Sean McGreevey is probably still the best keeper in Ulster so should be in goals well ahead of Finnucane.

Who would you replace Scullion or McVeigh with?

Who would you have on ahead of Paul Doc?

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on February 02, 2007, 11:51:13 AM
my biggest concern about the team is the two corner-backs. both have never played there at club never mind county level! surely gault and ward are better options here
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on February 02, 2007, 11:53:38 AM
Just a few points - IMO
Sean McGreevey (Good Keeper) is a step back, Finucane just have been given the 1 jesrey
Sean McV & Tony Scul all good enough Club players but they are not Halfbacks at county level, Sculiion may do ok in the corner , his delivery is poor, Bell may do OK at  wing half but not at CHB
Joe Quinn - wont even comment
Paul Doc - Big Lad, doesnt use his strength enough - out of his depth at this level
A Gallagher - quick & Strong but lacks enough football skill

These are not personal attcks on these fellas , just points about football

PS I know this is only Jody's 1st League game

yes double e that is your opinion and you are entitled to it, but i wud have to disagree.
all those players will start against derry, apart from sean mcviegh and he wont be far away.

i wud be more worried about the cornerbacks.
big pd will maybe end up in the half back line because in my opinion magill will come into the forward line and the defence needs tightening up.
mcveigh will end up playing corner or full back along with colin brady and another.

but thats just my opinion.
i didnt think a bellaghy man wud take such interest in antrim or are you one of those imports that now hail from the casements club portglenyin.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 02, 2007, 11:55:00 AM
Niall Ward for McVeigh
Paddy Logan for Paul Doc
Switch Lynch & Sculiion


Slim are you in full agreement with Jody's selection  
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: CoolHandLuke on February 02, 2007, 12:04:38 PM
My Antrim team for Sunday would be
1. McGreevey
2. Brady
3. McClean
4. Ward
5. McVeigh
6. Bell
7. Loughrey
8. McCann
9. Gallagher
10. Brady
11. Logan
12. Doc
13. Close
14. Niblock
15. Cunningham
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on February 02, 2007, 01:14:14 PM
Is it an overnight to Wicklow? Beller and CJ for roommates!

The excitement is starting to build. see Wicklow are hot favourites to win the match (4/6), but Antrim are well capable of getting a result. Since when did Antrim ever fear Wicklow. Go out and tank them! Up the Saffrons.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 02, 2007, 01:22:54 PM
Culchie, I have always had an interest in Antrim Football, have I family contentions there, but this  bellaghy - portglenone this seems to bother you, why jealously maybe  :P, I heard last year the Oran O'Kane was seeking a transfer to Portglenone from Rasharkin, and before you ask me how I know Oran, he is married to a Bellaghy Girl
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on February 02, 2007, 01:32:55 PM
Culchie, I have always had an interest in Antrim Football, have I family contentions there,
 ???

are you asking me or telling!!

dont always believe what you hear double e!!




Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 02, 2007, 01:35:26 PM
sorry - I have Family connections here,
aye Big Oran didnt move, rumour has it Portglenone wouldnt take him :P
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on February 02, 2007, 01:50:39 PM
I understand that Oran O'Kane has been approached by bellaghy to get involved in coaching some of there underage teams. He is living in Ballynease and as you say married to a bellaghy girl.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on February 02, 2007, 01:59:43 PM
aye max big O has been involved with our minors over the last couple of years and he is taking the u16s this year.

heard something bout that bellaghy wanted him to help out, but sure what could you's boys learn from an antrim man,
after all you's are a gaa hotbed! :P
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 02, 2007, 02:41:41 PM
Cluchie, look on it as bellaghy improving Oran's coaching abilities free of charge and then Oran will inturn pass his newfound knowledge unto the rest of Rasharkin, sorta bellaghy doing yous a favour really  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on February 02, 2007, 02:55:01 PM
your not bad craic double e!! ;D

do those family connections extend to maximus marillius or do all bellaghy people JUST have the same mindset
as that as tina turner wud say are SIMPLY THE BEST. :D ;D

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 02, 2007, 03:17:09 PM
Nah, Culchy , I can safely say max and me are not related, but our titles are there for all to see, so we must be doing something right  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: FreeTaker on February 04, 2007, 11:52:22 PM
what all this talk about creggan and mickey moran calling an urgent meeting last week?  then on the cavan hoganstand website, there is talk of him being connected to the mullahoran job??  think i even heard his name being connected to glack in derry.  things must b hitting a rocky patch already!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 05, 2007, 09:15:26 AM
''paddy logan instead of paul doc''  :D ;D

thats the best I've heard in a long time!!

how did kickhams do in the Ulster league opener? its a bit of a farce that oul league- good for competitive friendlies though.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: CoolHandLuke on February 05, 2007, 09:46:28 AM
Bad result yesterday lads, any reports? I would have thought the team we sent down would have been more than capable of taking something out of the game. Leaves us with a mountain to climb now with meath, cavan, wexford and sligo all to come. Suppose we can just hope everyone takes points off each other in this league and we can grind out a few wins.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 05, 2007, 10:47:42 AM
Slim "know it all" shady
 U agreed with that team selection, conceeded 4 goals,
 Slim "manager of the year" Shady  :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 05, 2007, 10:51:30 AM
show me where i said i agreed with it Max? i mean Ethan.

and if you keep the insults coming Ethan then people are going to hear a thing or two about our Maximus  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 05, 2007, 10:59:23 AM
what the f**k are you MAXing about, Slim he has really got into your head, Why do you think I am Max, get a life  :-[
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 05, 2007, 11:01:43 AM
you never showed me where i ''agreed'' with the selection?

and the Max thing, well, i'll say nothing more about it and just await another insult.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 05, 2007, 11:07:01 AM
Ok Slim if you didnt agree with the team selection , what changes would you have made

As for insults  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 05, 2007, 11:10:59 AM
would have had McLean on and Christy Lynch off out of that back line.

Would have played Paul Doc at 6.

Would have had Niblock on the bench and Justin Crozier at 11.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on February 05, 2007, 11:15:20 AM
was good to see the younger lads gettin their chance as some of the older boys clearly werent up to it yesterday.

wud not have mcgoldrick in the team and as i said before no harm to christy lynch he isnt a cornerback.

i agree with slim put paul doc at chb move beller to wingback and mcveigh in the corner.

slim what about geek, did he not bother this year.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 05, 2007, 11:15:55 AM
Slim

and kept Mcveigh & Scullion at 5 & 7  (both were replaced) and Joe at 8,
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 05, 2007, 11:20:39 AM
I'd have McVeigh off, Scullion was carrying an injury into the game. Bell out of CHB.

Antrim are missing a workhorse in the middle of the park, big Marty could do a job there if he was up. As could Tony Convery or even Painter Marron.

Geek isnt up this year, he scored a wonder point for us on Saturday from the sideline! he was also named Captain for the year, Captain Smurf.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 05, 2007, 11:52:17 AM
I dont rate Scullion as a HB , could do a job in the corner, he is very quick and strong in the tackle
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 05, 2007, 11:52:59 AM
Did you see the County Final?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on February 05, 2007, 11:59:56 AM
Slim...you think that ethen and maximus are the same...take a look at the amount of posts each have...if they are one and the same...he must have nothing to do...if you say you know who he is...check his job...I dont think 1200 posts from November is possible.

By the way another crap Antrim performance. Did the captain lead by example :o
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 05, 2007, 12:01:31 PM
Did you see the County Final?

Yip, saw him go to ground very easliy trying to win easy frees, which he managed to do, he went down once holding his head, tryring to a player booked when actually it was Eddie Quinn that give him a we dig in the rips by mistake.

Why I dont rate Tony at Half Back is because I think is final ball to the forwards is suspect, IMO a half Back needs to play quality ball into the forwards, Tony doesnt do this consistently,
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 05, 2007, 12:03:12 PM
The same player that won Man of the Match that day? No?

He went full pelt from start to finish right through extra time and set up a lot of scores bombing up the right wing.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on February 05, 2007, 12:13:28 PM
hoganstand

Quote
Wicklow 4-9
Antrim 1-10

The first half was nip and tuck with Wicklow gaining an advantage with a Keith Byrne goal at the end of the first quarter. Antrim responded well and with points from Paddy Cunningham trailed by just 0-6 to 1-5 at the break.

On the restart came an avalanche of Wicklow goals as Tommy Gill fired a powerful shot to the net and from the kick out the home side regained possession and Gill was on hand again to fist home his second major.

Antrim were shell-shocked at this stage and things got worse for the Glensmen when Jack Dalton fired home Wicklow’s fourth goal to put his side 4-7 to 0-7 ahead.

In the final 25 minutes the home side only managed two points but Antrim managed only slightly better with Chris Lynch grabbing a late goal in reply.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on February 05, 2007, 12:16:09 PM
no doubt tony scullion is a good half back at club level with his pace and power. slim ur correct about what u say about the county final.
but county level is different. its about the speed and accuracy of the ball into the inside forwards. too many times scullion puts the head down and runs, by the time he looks to make the pass the forwards have made their run and the defence is organised.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on February 05, 2007, 12:52:42 PM
So yer going to take us in the first round... :D :D :D

A real bad weekend for Jody..the Abbey and then 4:9
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2007, 02:51:53 PM
always the optimist eh, thats coming from a person that calls themself saffron sam2!!

sure isnt it jody's first league game in charge aswell.
whats the point of the team going if we're a cert to get beat.
with that type of mentality we might as well just pull out of the ulster championship and concentrate on the tommy murphy!ffs. >:(

i do agree that no.28 among others are interesting inclusions!
cj, loughrey and the like. i wud have thought a couple more would have been on the panel, but i suppose u can only pick 28.
thought tomas mccann, justy crozier, benny hasson mite have got in there too, but their day will come.
Unfortunately my pessimism proved to be well founded.  A lucky one point victory at Casement last year over the same opposition was the first clue. Add that to the fact that the game was an away match and that any extra impetus from Mick O'Dwyer is likely to be much more than any extra impetus from Jody Gormley meant we were always long odds to win this game.  Nothing wrong with my attitude, simply a realisation of exactly where Antrim stand at the minute.

Still there were positives, the team that finished appears much stronger than the one that started. We need to concentrate on trying to make it as difficult as possible for away teams to getanything at Casement, otherwise it's division 4 for us.

This result and the Derry result do not change my opinion about the championship match in any way at all.  I would be confident that the saffrons will be a lot closer to Derry than they were to Wicklow.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 05, 2007, 02:55:09 PM
they also travelled down there yesterday morning! pure stupidity imho, they should have went down on saturday night.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 05, 2007, 02:59:13 PM
why did they not stay over, has the county board tightened the purse strings
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 05, 2007, 03:05:56 PM
they also travelled down there yesterday morning! pure stupidity imho, they should have went down on saturday night.
Agreed, feckin stupid.  Still the county board saved a handy few quid there. Seems like they want to save a few quid on a round of the qualifiers next year too. McGarry will be happy.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 05, 2007, 03:07:38 PM
they also travelled down there yesterday morning! pure stupidity imho, they should have went down on saturday night.
Agreed, feckin stupid.  Still the county board saved a handy few quid there. Seems like they want to save a few quid on a round of the qualifiers next year too. McGarry will be happy.

total twat.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 05, 2007, 03:16:37 PM
Rubberman :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: CoolHandLuke on February 05, 2007, 03:17:45 PM
Wot a joke. No other county team would travel 3-4 hours on the morning of a match. It puts our boys on the back foot from the start. On a playing issue, I know everyone says we have the players, but do we really? Everyone seems to have pulled together under Jody & he's had his pick of most players in the county yet we are still getting well turned over by second rate teams. Alot of our players have ability & show well in club competitions but inter county is another step up & i'm not sure alot of our players are up to it, especially in the physical stakes which is a big part of county football nowadays.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on February 05, 2007, 03:22:09 PM
Quote
Quote from: saffron sam2 on Today at 03:05:56 PM
Quote from: SlimShady on Today at 02:55:09 PM
they also travelled down there yesterday morning! pure stupidity imho, they should have went down on saturday night.

Agreed, feckin stupid.  Still the county board saved a handy few quid there. Seems like they want to save a few quid on a round of the qualifiers next year too. McGarry will be happy.


total twat.

I think i'd have to come to his defence on this! Victor Meldrew would be the one (surprisingly) whose voice seems to be heard a lot more than it should on matters like this - county treasurer isn't the one booking buses / accomodation for players nor deciding if they should stay overnight or not - arrangements will all have come through the CAM and county exec will have made the call on overnight stay etc - McGarry will be more concerned with trying to find a new sponsor at the minute.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 05, 2007, 03:24:04 PM
even if he had booked the panel and their wives into the Hilton for the week before the game he'd still be a twat.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 05, 2007, 03:27:57 PM
Slim I sense you are somewhat aggitated by the Rubberman? did he run over your pet dog, steal yer women? whats the sceal
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 05, 2007, 03:30:56 PM
Slim I sense you are somewhat aggitated by the Rubberman? did he run over your pet dog, steal yer women? whats the sceal

 :D ;D

christ on a bike!!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on February 05, 2007, 03:40:15 PM
It may have been the players choice to travel down on the Sunday morning. 
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on February 05, 2007, 03:50:43 PM
Would that suggest that the players still have not totally bought into club Antrim...and see this overnight stay, which is part of quality preparartion, as a waste of their  time
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: CoolHandLuke on February 05, 2007, 04:05:21 PM
If it was the players choice it is completely the wrong one. What is the point in training 3-4 nights a week, doing weights programmes, watching what you eat etc all in a professional manner if your gonna screw all that up on a sunday when it really mattered by being squeezed into a bus all morning. The management should have insisted on staying the night before and outlined the reasons for this. Players with a professional and committed attitude would tow the line even if they preferred their own bed on a sat nite
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on February 07, 2007, 08:26:33 AM
With Frank Delargy no longer interested in training us, we have appointed Paul mc keown as our new trainer for the year (with Barney reid still as manager). Paul is an ex St Galls player, lives in Crumlin and has taken both Aldergrove and Glenavy over the past few years. both clubs have differing opinions of him, anybody else any idea of what he's like?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 07, 2007, 08:56:17 AM
never heard of him. but by all accounts he got both teams relegated.

suits you sir!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on February 07, 2007, 09:49:17 AM
Paul is a good, motivator, plenty of years experience and has plenty of championship wins behind him and has played county at all age groups, played against Cargin up at Rasharkin in that great game, when we won 5.  4, not sure of the team Slim :P. Paul scored 2 that day.

A manager will come in with new ideas and tactics but if the team don’t put the same effort in then it’s doomed from the start. I wish him all the best
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 07, 2007, 09:59:23 AM
aye, ok thenm, i was wrong. He'll be great- you'll be championship contenders in 2 years time!

He relegated 2 teams in 2 years- not a good record, ffs my management record reads better!!!!  :D

and just because he's been a successful player doesnt mean he'll ever cut it as a manager.
Title: Re. Glenravel's new trainer
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 07, 2007, 10:21:02 AM
Random song lyrics.

The road is long
With many a winding turn
That leads us to who knows where
Who knows when
But I'm strong
Strong enough to carry him
He ain't heavy, he's my brother

So on we go
His welfare is of my concern
No burden is he to bear
We'll get there
For I know
He would not encumber me
He ain't heavy, he's my brother

If I'm laden at all
I'm laden with sadness
That everyone's heart
Isn't filled with the gladness
Of love for one another

It's a long, long road
From which there is no return
While we're on the way to there
Why not share
And the load
Doesn't weigh me down at all
He ain't heavy, he's my brother

He's my brother
He ain't heavy, he's my brother...
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 07, 2007, 11:00:43 AM
this may be a silly question Sam but.... what the f**k?!
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on February 07, 2007, 11:02:13 AM
Well, up on till last year Slim he won as much as your previous managers!!!! And they were the best.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: CoolHandLuke on February 07, 2007, 11:11:58 AM
What's the chances of picking up a result on sat evenin under lights against a mediocre meath team? Should Jody play the same team that started or finished the last match?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 07, 2007, 11:18:37 AM
who did he manage to a Senior Championship??
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 07, 2007, 11:33:14 AM
Paul is a good, motivator, plenty of years experience and has plenty of championship wins behind him and has played county at all age groups, played against Cargin up at Rasharkin in that great game, when we won 5.  4, not sure of the team Slim :P. Paul scored 2 that day.


Must have been a cracker, I real spectacle, 5 pts to 4 pts, catch yourself on,  :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on February 07, 2007, 12:36:21 PM
it's always good beating Cargin, and vice versa
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 07, 2007, 01:25:07 PM
Paul is a good, motivator, plenty of years experience and has plenty of championship wins behind him and has played county at all age groups, played against Cargin up at Rasharkin in that great game, when we won 5.  4, not sure of the team Slim :P. Paul scored 2 that day.

A manager will come in with new ideas and tactics but if the team don’t put the same effort in then it’s doomed from the start. I wish him all the best

They tell me, well my source Butterknife tells me, that the man in question was unsuccessful with his application for the St. Gall's under-14 managerial position. The Con Magee's are in safe hands.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on February 07, 2007, 02:20:59 PM
your well informed (under 16 though), Sam internal polictics. Paul will be taking an under 15 development squad at the club, then take the team next year. under age teams (at naomh gall) have always had plenty of people looking to look after them.

and besides Glenravel could not get any worse. whats your club Sam?
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 07, 2007, 02:35:02 PM
by f**k, i thought Sam was taking the piss!!

Correct though, Glenravel cant get much worse but putting someone clueless in charge may be the final nail in the clubs coffin!!

ffs, sure they even let me take our u16 team the last 2 years  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on February 09, 2007, 10:46:20 AM
anyone for the turning on of the lights ceremony!!

we will do well to get something out of the match, interesting to see what team is picked.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 09, 2007, 10:52:09 AM
i'll be there culchy, you can buy me a pint before (or after it) the game, i allow you.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim abu on February 09, 2007, 10:59:14 AM
definitely going. after all the fuss about the lights this is one occasion i wont miss. and i hear there will be a game on as well
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 09, 2007, 11:11:25 AM
has the antrim team V meath been announced
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on February 09, 2007, 11:14:41 AM
wont be announced til just before throw-in, apparently!

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 09, 2007, 11:17:15 AM
very cloak and dagger stuff, are they worried that they might give meath an advantage by declaring the team early  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on February 09, 2007, 11:25:24 AM
typical toome man slim, tight as bedamned. :D

who do you's play in ulster league this weekend?
was talking to a fella from the screen, he says they'll takes you's no bother when yous meet, i begged to differ with him!
he thought you's wud be crap without ur county men.

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 09, 2007, 12:02:54 PM
they may well beat us, we arent taking the competition seriously at all, the management are using it to play a lot of boys they didnt see much of last year and other lads who they have never seen at senior level. to be honest, its only glorified friendly matches, thats all.

we play Derrylaughan on Sunday 1pm in Toome.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 09, 2007, 12:27:28 PM
Slim , have Cargin found these matches worhwhile, I know yous are taking them as friendly's and blooding new talent, that fine , but doesnt it make for a long season for the regular 1st teamers, will it not take its toll on them later in the season, it seemed to do that wilth creggan last year, started off flying then died away mid season
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 09, 2007, 12:31:56 PM
Slim , have Cargin found these matches worhwhile, I know yous are taking them as friendly's and blooding new talent, that fine , but doesnt it make for a long season for the regular 1st teamers, will it not take its toll on them later in the season, it seemed to do that wilth creggan last year, started off flying then died away mid season

 :D ;D

We've only played one game and it wont be taking its toll, we're training slowly. Dont worry about us Ethan (Max), we'll be grand come mid season.
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 09, 2007, 12:42:35 PM
Slim , you'll have to get over this max thing, I bet "you think about him 24/7" to quote The Real Slim Shady,

He must have f**ked up yer head, maybe its the loughshore air
Title: Proposed Fixtures for League and Championship
Post by: aontroim on February 09, 2007, 01:59:11 PM
Have just been send a copy of the CCC proposals for 2007.

Most rumblings on here look to be true enough with hurling leagues starting on Wednesday 18th April - wed evenings for the first SEVEN! games then switching to Sundays in July.

Div 4,5,6 football starts fairly early (11th March) and Div 1,2,3 starts 15th April

Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: CoolHandLuke on February 09, 2007, 02:14:41 PM
Aontroim, does it give provisional dates on the CCC proposals for senior club football championship games first and second rounds?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on February 09, 2007, 02:22:10 PM
I've removed hurling from the title of this thread for obvious reasons
Title: Re: Antrim Hurling and Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on February 09, 2007, 02:32:29 PM
Aontroim, does it give provisional dates on the CCC proposals for senior club football championship games first and second rounds?

From what i can decipher it looks like;

SFC

1st Rnd - 29th July
2nd Rnd - 12th August

IFC/JFC

1st Rnd - 21/22th July
2nd Rnd - 1st August (IFC only)
3rd rnd - 18th August

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim abu on February 09, 2007, 02:35:35 PM
any dates for the hurling championships? or is that asking too much?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on February 09, 2007, 02:51:49 PM
will post on the Antrim Hurling thread just to keep it right...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CoolHandLuke on February 09, 2007, 02:57:11 PM
Cheers Aontroim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shaws road on February 09, 2007, 10:27:23 PM
i hear tonight that the two mc gourty cj and kevin and sean keely have agreed to go to chicago for the summer ina $20,000 move any truth in this from people in boston and they paln to have karl stewart and colm bardy before the summer is out???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 09, 2007, 10:34:17 PM
Shaws Rd, it has probably been put out by the Kevin Mc Gourty publicity machine. If being a top inter county footballer was measured in how good you were in going crying to your favourite little rag (The Irish News) he would be the best of them all. Mc gourty has to realise you have to do it on the pitch, for me he is the most over rated player in Antrim, when has he ever performed for the county?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 09, 2007, 10:35:28 PM
I take it that's when Antrim exit the Championship?

Gonna head down to Casement tomorrow night - looking forward to seeing this Meath team in action. Haven't seen them in the flesh since 2002 v Donegal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shaws road on February 10, 2007, 12:20:26 AM
shaws road  very good reply but even like i dont like him mc gourty is the only player in antrim history and will ever be probabaly to play in five all irelands in two years and from what i hear in st galls its massive , mc gourty v kelly only one win winnner with me kelly but according to last sundays paper the irsh times o dywer calls mc gourty as good as egan the county forard for kerry during the golden years surely not micko  he is good but not that good
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Uladh on February 10, 2007, 08:59:44 AM
mc gourty as good as egan the county forard for kerry during the golden years surely not micko  he is good but not that good

Ah come on now. a very good club footballer but an average county footballer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lecale2 on February 10, 2007, 09:18:21 AM
McGourty is all talk. He may have put in some good performances at club level but I've never seen him do it for the county. I'm not sure he has it in him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 10, 2007, 12:02:16 PM
Uladh....well said, he has never done it for A ntrim, he is very fit which is a big asset at club level but at inter county level everyone is super fit. He seems more interested in speaking to the papers and raising his profile through interviews rather than raising it on the pitch. In fairness he will love the fact that he is being discussed on this message board, he should take a leaf out of CJ's book and let his football do the talking
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theoriginalmup on February 10, 2007, 06:15:39 PM
Nice to hear lads talkin about goin to America in Febuary ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cloc Mor on February 10, 2007, 07:40:18 PM
You clubs in the Belfast are all a shower of pricks - just heard the Ulster Colleges asked nearly all clubs in Belfast to use their ground for a MacRory semi final between St. Colman's Newry and St. Pat's Maghera yet every one of them said no.  Why might this be?  I mean you aren't even using the fields yourselves.  You don't even have football on most of them so why not let someone play on your fields? 
Maybe, and I hate saying this, your demonstrations are more important than football.  You've let us all down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 10, 2007, 08:26:16 PM
Latest Score Antrim 0-5 Meath 1-7
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 10, 2007, 08:51:08 PM
Latest Score Antrim 0-9 Meath 2-11
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: onlyonefut on February 10, 2007, 09:20:50 PM
Full Time Antrim 1-11 Meath 2-11
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 10, 2007, 09:33:48 PM
how did antrim come back--when i left it was 2-10 to 0-6
i hate that--now gormley will be goin on like a lucky goal just beat antrim and "only a kick of the ball in it at the end"
this may be technically true but in reality the gulf was at least 10 points
Did meath give up and antrim get lucky or did they really put it up to Meath?

In my opinion Antrim were like wee lost boys and were shite
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: down22 on February 10, 2007, 09:44:10 PM
A bit of both - meath let things slip a little, antrim were a (little) bit better. Antrim goal came very late. But Antrim never really looked liked coming back.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 10, 2007, 09:53:12 PM
How much did the thiefs charge in to it? I was all geared up to go then thought it will be pure shite and didnt bother.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Caitlin on February 10, 2007, 09:55:24 PM
It was 7 quid in. Antrim were second best. I have an interest on the team and Gormley seems to be committed but this was a lot worse than Wicklow.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 10, 2007, 10:04:51 PM
I think i made the right decision then, did young Mc Gourty come on?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on February 12, 2007, 01:49:34 PM
Aye, young CJ made his official inter county senior debut. The announcer got his name wrong, the suit musnt have known what he looks like. Mc Gort got a good dig in the mouth from one of the Meath players, probably for slabbering about his mother or girlfriend. Thought Beller had put that nonsense out of him a few weeks back!The person manning the scoreboard made a c**k up, and the national anthem failed half way thru.

From a football perspective, it was a hard game to analyize. Meath looked bigger, better, stronger, sharper and played better football.

Antrim as usual took 25 passes to get across the half way line, and were made to work hard for every score. How hard can it be to stick a hightower in the edge of the square and put one or two in to test them. For me, Joe Quinn would be ideal in there, with Close or Cunningham playing off him. Or even Paddy Logan. Better still Benny Hasson.

At the end of the day, for all that, Meath won with two very soft goals. Finucane looked completely blinded for the first one, and their second looked a definite Square ball. Throw in the fact that the average age of the team is very young, and I wouldnt be over critical. Still think we are starting to produce a lot better type players  than ten-fifteen years ago and we must be patient.

As the eternal optimist, we can but hope, but can we really cut it at c`ship level without the following players?

Convery, Kelly, Magill, Micko, O`Boyle, Mc Gourty, and big Eddie Quinn is still the best midfielder in the county, and has been for ten years.

Every county needs their best players out, and for a variety of reasons we arnt gettin some of ours. If most of those seven were in there fighting it out for places, then think of the quality Jody would have to pick from.

Without them, well, its just going to take a bit longer!


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 12, 2007, 02:02:13 PM
Aye, young CJ made his official inter county senior debut. The announcer got his name wrong, the suit musnt have known what he looks like. Mc Gort got a good dig in the mouth from one of the Meath players, probably for slabbering about his mother or girlfriend. Thought Beller had put that nonsense out of him a few weeks back!The person manning the scoreboard made a c**k up, and the national anthem failed half way thru.

From a football perspective, it was a hard game to analyize. Meath looked bigger, better, stronger, sharper and played better football.

Antrim as usual took 25 passes to get across the half way line, and were made to work hard for every score. How hard can it be to stick a hightower in the edge of the square and put one or two in to test them. For me, Joe Quinn would be ideal in there, with Close or Cunningham playing off him. Or even Paddy Logan. Better still Benny Hasson.

At the end of the day, for all that, Meath won with two very soft goals. Finucane looked completely blinded for the first one, and their second looked a definite Square ball. Throw in the fact that the average age of the team is very young, and I wouldnt be over critical. Still think we are starting to produce a lot better type players  than ten-fifteen years ago and we must be patient.

As the eternal optimist, we can but hope, but can we really cut it at c`ship level without the following players?

Convery, Kelly, Magill, Micko, O`Boyle, Mc Gourty, and big Eddie Quinn is still the best midfielder in the county, and has been for ten years.

Every county needs their best players out, and for a variety of reasons we arnt gettin some of ours. If most of those seven were in there fighting it out for places, then think of the quality Jody would have to pick from.

Without them, well, its just going to take a bit longer!




Better than Mick McCann? I'd disagree with you on that score, having played with both.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Truth on February 12, 2007, 02:03:45 PM
Johnjoe....What is this i have missed about Bell & Mc Gourty,i have seen a few posts alluding to something,did he give him a slap or what?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on February 12, 2007, 02:46:23 PM
"allegedly" and "apparently" it was more than one slap. St Marys Uni versus Antrim a few weeks ago in a pre season. Just about as good an education as the peerless CJ will ever get. Apparently the verbals is part of his reportoire, with mothers and girlfriends tending to feature often. Either very brave or very stupid, I mean FFS would you want to talk to Beller like that. Either way, Bell did him a good turn in the long run!

Slim, big Eddie`s performance against St Galls was the highlight of last summer. I know he cant/wont play for Antrim, but he would be my full forward as a target man. Ok, Mick Mc Cann`s the man from the banks of the Bann now, but my post referred to the last ten years! Maybe some of the other Mc Canns coming through might be the business for the next ten. I`m a big fan of Mick`s, but he needs some more consistency in his game. Was AWOL Sat night!


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 12, 2007, 02:55:00 PM
johnjoe, your words were- big eddie quinn is still the best midfielder in the county.

You never mentioned full forward either.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 12, 2007, 02:58:59 PM
The Mc Gourty boys certainly like to talk, i would leave Ciaran exempt from this, hes a good lad. I have had to give motor mouth Kevin a few slaps down through the years for his mouthing on the hurling field. I was saying to the fella i was marking against St Galls that the Kevin boy was a terrible p***k and he said half his own team cant stick him......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 12, 2007, 03:01:21 PM
You clubs in the Belfast are all a shower of pricks - just heard the Ulster Colleges asked nearly all clubs in Belfast to use their ground for a MacRory semi final between St. Colman's Newry and St. Pat's Maghera yet every one of them said no.  Why might this be?  I mean you aren't even using the fields yourselves.  You don't even have football on most of them so why not let someone play on your fields? 
Maybe, and I hate saying this, your demonstrations are more important than football.  You've let us all down.
You are what is commonly known as a w**ker.  If you could answer me a few questions of my own:
1.  Where was the St. Patrick's Armagh vs. St. Louis Kilkeel quarter final played the previous weekend?
2.  Why did Rossa play their Ulster Senior league match against Carrickmore at St. Mary's and not their home pitch?
3.  Is it likely that St. Gall's have changed their policy of making their pitch avaialble whenever possible for Ulster Colleges' matches since Christmas?
4.  Why do you feel the game had to be played in Belfast?  Surely there are any number of neutral pitches in the general Armagh / Dungannon / Cookstown / lough shore area that could equally well have been used.  Did those clubs let us all down.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on February 12, 2007, 04:33:40 PM
Point taken Slim. In fairness you are better placed to make that call. Both top players fair to say. Pity Big Eddie did`nt justify his potential at inter county level though. In his prime he would have been the first name on the team sheet!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 14, 2007, 09:33:52 AM
Gerard O'Boyle is now on the Senior County Panel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on February 14, 2007, 01:57:34 PM
Thats big news Slim. Do you think he will really give it one big effort. Hope he does for the countys sake. By the way whats the crack with big Magill this weather. Do you know if he is still on the panel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on February 14, 2007, 02:07:53 PM
I remember writing something about mcgourty a few months ago on this site, about kevin mcgourty being so over-rated.  He has never done anything in ana ntrim jersey and maybe has played a few good games for st galls in antrim but has never shone in ulster club.  He is somehow at about 25 still playing with queens, and maybe scored a point at most in their 3 mckenna cup games.

Out of interest, what 5 all irelands has he played in two years?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 14, 2007, 02:15:10 PM
7's, All Ireland Club Final, Sigerson? i have no idea really and far less do i care.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 14, 2007, 02:38:26 PM
I dont even know why we are discussing it but for what its worth, Mc Gourty is a media darling,Irish News in particular, always has a soundbite and has something to say. I dont think he is too over rated by people that actually know what they are talking about. A high media profile will certainly get you favourable reviews, good club footballer, average intercounty player. End of rant.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on February 14, 2007, 02:45:21 PM
Thats the only 3 I could think of Slim.

Well put Slim!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 14, 2007, 02:52:03 PM
McGourty played in two Sigerson finals, but missed the one in Belfast because he fell out with James McCartan. That would certainly be number 4 and possibly why some think it is five finals.

Good to see O'Boyle back in the squad.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 14, 2007, 04:31:25 PM
Closie is captain, he wasn't fit for the full game on Saturday night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shady character on February 14, 2007, 04:38:13 PM
he had tight calves....tho plyed well by all accounts when he came on.

slim your magic hands must hav worked  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on February 14, 2007, 05:15:36 PM
McGourty played in two Sigerson finals, but missed the one in Belfast because he fell out with James McCartan. That would certainly be number 4 and possibly why some think it is five finals.

Good to see O'Boyle back in the squad.

McGourty fall out with someone, never!!  :P
Title: Creagh Concrete
Post by: aontroim on February 14, 2007, 05:40:23 PM
Creagh Concrete new county senior sponsor - deal is supposed to be worth big money (compared to the £30k / year Bushmills gave)


From antrim.gaa.ie;

Antrim County Board has announced a new sponsorship deal covering the senior football and hurling teams with Creagh Concrete, one of Ireland's leading producers of concrete products, which is headquartered in Toomebridge, County Antrim. Under the deal, which was brokered in part by fundraising body Club Aontroma, Creagh Concrete will brand the senior team's playing gear and partner the county in other innovative ways for three years.

Antrim Chairman John McSparran welcomed the partnership.

"We are delighted to be have secured a long term partnership deal with Creagh Concrete which will help us to improve the fortunes of the county on and off the pitch. We have been looking for the right commercial partner over the last few months and it is important to us to work with a company with roots in and commitment to Antrim. There have been a number of important developments within the county in recent months including the installation of floodlights at Casement Park and the launch of our strategic review. This partnership with Creagh Concrete will help us to build on those and to work towards our long-term goal of real success with our teams.

In our preliminary discussions before concluding a sponsorship deal we found that we had an instant empathy with their work and team ethos, found them similarly ambitious to ourselves and we were particularly attracted by their well earned reputation on being a company that employs from and contributes handsomely to worthy causes from all sides of the community. Their degree of success over the last few years and their track record of innovation is something we very much aspire to as a county especially since they are a County Antrim based company and that makes everyone all the more determined to make this partnership a success for everyone involved. We believe that we can help them develop their markets in the south and elsewhere. We as a county want to be part of their continued success and we would like them to be part of ours."

Seamus McKeague, Managing Director of Creagh Concrete said the firm was pleased to be working with Antrim.

"We have been involved in helping out local clubs and other sports associations in smaller ways and we wanted to step up that support. We were impressed with the professionalism we encountered within the Antrim set up and we want to support the county's move towards a successful future. The principles which underpin the way we go about our work at Creagh Concrete – commitment to success and teamwork – are reflected in the way those behind the Antrim set up are approaching the significant task of helping Antrim achieve the success such a big county deserves. We hope that through our support we can help them achieve this success.”

Club Aontroma Chairman Eamonn Prenter said the deal heralded a 'new beginning' in the way Antrim goes about its business. "We worked with the county Board on the sponsorship issue and the whole approach was thorough and professional. Club Aontroma has managed to initiate a degree of interest in Antrim's affairs, which until now was dormant. This important deal with Creagh Concrete is another major step forward.

NOTE

The sponsorship deal begins immediately and will run for the next three seasons.

Over the past twenty-five years, Creagh Concrete has grown to become one of Ireland's leading producers of concrete products for the construction, civil engineering and agricultural sectors.  For more information on Creagh Concrete contact Jacqui Burns on 028 796 51220 or visit www.creaghconcrete.com

For more information on this release contact Terry Cormican on 07742 949111
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 14, 2007, 06:34:02 PM
Gerard O'Boyle and Kevin McCourty are similar, they are both very talented club footballers who cause great problems for the oppostion week in week out, but neither of them have ever counted at county level, McCourty wants to play only on  his terms and Gerard has never really shown any interest in playing at that level,

Are these Antrim great white hopes,  :-[

I stand to be corrected
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Truth on February 14, 2007, 08:38:29 PM
Aye fair comment, i watched him last year when Antrim played Clare in qualifiers at Casement. It was their biggest game of the year and he huffed and puffed and gurned and yapped his way through the match, end product from him....... zilch. Now that was against the might of Clare......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 14, 2007, 09:07:23 PM
Kevin Brady disappointed me on Saturday. He was a fellow who always looked like he had potential to become a great Antrim player. However, he just seems to run, and run, and run, without little end product. Stylish but limited.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 15, 2007, 08:45:21 AM
Creagh Concrete is in Derry!!!

Who are you to question Gerard O'Boyles talent Max? He hasnt played a full season at the County so nobody knows his credentials in that arena.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 15, 2007, 09:58:11 AM
listen Slim " parnoid" Shady, read my f**king post, I didnt question his talent, I questioned his committment

and for the record the owners of Creagh Concrete are from Antrim, ie Dunloy and they have a base there, typical know it all , know F**k all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 15, 2007, 09:59:08 AM
mind your language Max. wouldnt want the world to know now would we...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 15, 2007, 10:02:57 AM
slim grow up, get a life or go out and play with the traffic
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shady character on February 15, 2007, 10:23:41 AM
Now boys, take it easy.

Good to see Geard O'Boyle at long last join the county squad. We badly need another scoring forward.

On a negative note, many folk around Cargin reckon that when he was playing he was too individual, with everything going through him. He also had a tendency to take the option of going for a score every time, even when it was totally the wrong option.You may argue if he's scoring 8 or 9 points a game then who cares.

But the problem to me seemed not to b GOB but rather that Cargins game plan meant little or no responsibility on other other forwards, with the rersult that gerd was the only one scoring.

This isn't going to be a factor at county level, so I reckon he will do well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 15, 2007, 10:42:05 AM
oh jesus christ, its Creggans version of Jeremy Kyle on to sort out everyone elses problems!! you seem to think you know a lot about what goes on around our club, when really you dont. i think your qualm with GOB & Cargin stems from the fact that Creggan got rid of him-possibly their best ever talent along with Bateson.

Hopefully he does well at the County but its more important to me that he does well with us than with Antrim, club before county-every time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shady character on February 15, 2007, 10:50:22 AM
My qualm with GOB?! What the f**k are you talking about?
"Good to see Geard O'Boyle at long last join the county squad. We badly need another scoring forward."

Oh here we go...its the old cargin cave-man mentality....you'd b the first p***k into to Croke Park if Antrim got to an All-Ireland QF/SF.

By the way...did u get "wee closey" a valentines card.....or are you gona GIVE HIM ONE at the week-end?!  :D  :D

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 15, 2007, 10:53:36 AM
Now boys, take it easy.

Good to see Geard O'Boyle at long last join the county squad. We badly need another scoring forward.

On a negative note, many folk around Cargin reckon that when he was playing he was too individual, with everything going through him. He also had a tendency to take the option of going for a score every time, even when it was totally the wrong option.You may argue if he's scoring 8 or 9 points a game then who cares.

But the problem to me seemed not to b GOB but rather that Cargins game plan meant little or no responsibility on other other forwards, with the rersult that gerd was the only one scoring.

This isn't going to be a factor at county level, so I reckon he will do well.

i think this is self explanatory.

as for Antrim, of course I support them-why wouldnt I? Its my County as much as anyones. I just stated that i would put my club before my county any day of the week.

maybe you're in a bad mood cos that squad of 10 players Creggan sent up to the County has been correctly chopped down to one  :D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shady character on February 15, 2007, 11:03:58 AM
Yes Slim and then I went onto say:

"But the problem to me seemed not to b GOB but rather that Cargins game plan meant little or no responsibility on other other forwards, with the rersult that gerd was the only one scoring."

Not at all. I said at the time that we had only a couple of players county standard, and one of them isn't even on the panel.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on February 15, 2007, 11:07:26 AM
To make any sort of breakthrough, Antrim need ALL their top players out there doing the business at training and on match day. Great that Gerard O`Boyle has thrown his name into the hat. The county is a completely different set up to club football, and some thrive, and others struggle. Lets hope Gerard has the capacity to cope with it. Hopefully it will bring out the best in him.

I still have a problem that to be a real threat, we need all our top players out, and for me there are still to many better types not yet in. Who knows, maybe Jody has drawn a line, and they might not be "allowed" in at this stage. I`m talking Convery, Kelly, Mc Gourty after Sigerson, and Michael Herron who will now be in the shape of his life after a big Sigerson campaign with UUJ, where he has played every match this year. And of course my old friend Michael Magill, who on his day I rate maybe the best of them all.

There are 6 players that would make an enormous difference, and just think of the competition for places then.

There is serious talent in Antrim, and a better type of young player coming through than ever before. But we need to get them all out. Finally, todays launch of new county sponsor, led by Dick Mc Keague, is another massive breakthrough. Well done to CLUB AONTROMA and all concerned.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 15, 2007, 11:10:48 AM
who? Dougan?

dont blow him up too much cos he reads this!!!  ;)

agreed re: McGourty & Herron.

Believe me, Magill is NOT your friend- the last time i spoke to him he wanted to rip off yer head and shit down yer throat! and he knows who you are, allegedly  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shady character on February 15, 2007, 11:21:07 AM
Yes it was dougan i was talking about. But the same boy needs to get his act together.
The fella has the potential, but the wrong attitude when it comes to training/lifestyle etc.

Is that you slim or is it Shinny?  ;D
Doubt magill wud have it in him to rip JJ's head off....He doesnt like the nitty gritty...
Thats supposed to be reason gormely axed him

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on February 15, 2007, 12:42:52 PM
Slim, if Magill has a problem with my comments that he is hugely talented, but needs a better work ethic, then there is nothing i can do to change that. Please refer to my comment that he is potentially the best of the lot.

I honestly didnt know that he had been dropped, but had noticed he was not on any recent teams or panels. I was wondering if he was hurt or something. As you seem to know all about him, maybe you will let us all know if/why he is no longer involved.

Was it a lazy attitude to training? And if so, is this MY fault.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: amninc on February 15, 2007, 01:44:06 PM
Magill was called on to the hurling set up and was quite right to leave - look at the results and team.  as he is a hurler and shady character saying he has not the balls - this coming from yourself a mouthing nobody - go do some work.  The two Dougans are well capable of being there and mark has been showing well for kickhams at the minute weither jody is calling back up i am unsure.  Chinese whispers is a very dangerous thing fellows.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: GreenDay on February 15, 2007, 04:35:27 PM
any chance of talking about something worth reading??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on February 15, 2007, 08:22:23 PM
Lads i think this debate on Magill has maybe run its course. Allow me to be so bold and have the final say, when he was up with the hurlers a couple of years back his attendance at training was abysmal and when there were friendlies/training on a Sat/Sun morning lets just say he didnt always arrive with the clearest of heads to perform.....He was close to getting canned on a fair few occasions
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 17, 2007, 10:31:27 PM
See the Rossa beat Glenavy 0-15--0-5 in the div2/3 playoffs--terrible waste of a year for Glenavy and Rossa get off the hook yet again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on February 20, 2007, 03:24:38 PM
ST BRIGIDS

Is it true that there is talk of ST BRIGIDS setting up a hurling team?

Cheers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 21, 2007, 02:00:56 PM
i see theres a Creggan gael in the Daily Mirror today!

Shady Character, have you seen it? meetin President Mary too, impressive!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shady character on February 21, 2007, 03:05:50 PM
Didn't see it slim?? Has big Teddy been knighted?  ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 21, 2007, 03:15:42 PM
no, Teddy has a few years on this guy.

Splash out the 35p and take a look- Daily Mirror, Page 10. Is he the only Creggan Gael meet the president?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shady character on February 21, 2007, 03:28:09 PM
Is it one of our all-star seniors Slim??

Page 10.....I'll try a stab in dark...McCartney???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shady character on February 22, 2007, 10:16:19 AM
Saw our very own Mr. Hefferrron in the mirror Slim  ;D

An embarrassment to all gaels around creggan.
Had to join the peelers to get a game. Enough said.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 23, 2007, 08:38:17 AM
why is he an embarrassment? sure it is you who should be embarrassed for outcasting him and his!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shady character on February 23, 2007, 10:26:50 AM
Why should I or anyone around creggan be embarrassed Slim?  ???

This is a non-political page, but if you insist...
Peadar put his club and fellow gaels around him in a very uncomprimising position
at a time when the whole issue around policing was ultra sensitive. He made a decision
that made many people feel betrayed and very uncomfortable about the implications this could hold for
our club. He made a personal and in my opinion, an extemely selfish decision to pursue a career that as a
playing member of our club, could have caused a major split, and even led to random attacks on our club house from
some exteme factions.

Now that is why he is an embarrassment and that is why Creegan Clud had no choice other than to expel the fella.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 23, 2007, 10:32:26 AM
but sure its his life, his job, is the fact that you are a waster in an office frowned upon round Creggan? And now that Gerry and the boys have signed up (which they were always going to do) is it acceptable for a Creggan man to join now?

Its the same police force as it was when he joined! Was another member of his family not given dogs abuse and subsequently forced to leave the club also? Unacceptable behaviour imho.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 23, 2007, 10:55:10 AM
Slim why did Cargin not take Peadar, they took the other player kicked out of creggan namely G O'Boyle  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 23, 2007, 10:57:13 AM
he never asked us, and yes, we did take arguably Creggans biggest ever talent off their hands as they refused to let him continue there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shady character on February 23, 2007, 11:00:22 AM
"the fact that you are a waster in an office frowned upon round Creggan"  :D

Pot kettle balck Slim!!  :D What does that make you then?
A waster in Jordanstown or a waster in the Civil Service?!  :D

So as a die-hard Cargin member, what would you have advocated had one of your own members done the same at the time??
As a club there is little doubt Cargin would have done it differently. Would you then have lambasted them ? I think not.

His life, his job. He choose to make this his life and his job.
As for Paul, do not come on here and make unsubstantiated statements about why he left the club.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 23, 2007, 11:05:35 AM
Slim , if PC Peadar had made a transfer request to Cargin would they have taken him ?

Would have been a sight to see PC Peader playing along side Martin Logan  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 23, 2007, 11:06:43 AM
we all know why he left for all saints.

it is not a matter of how Cargin would have handled it, I know we are seen as your richer, professional neighbours and all that but it has nothing to do with us.  ;) :D

if it were a member of my club i wouldnt think any less of his lifestyle choices.

now, will you answer-

Has the views of Creggan Club & Committee changed since Sinn Fein signed up to policing?

If you joined the PSNI tomorrow would you get the boot? (Theoretically speaking of course as you're done so they wouldnt really care  :) )


Martin Logan has been retired for 5 years!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 23, 2007, 11:21:02 AM
Martin Logan has been retired for 5 years!!

My God , doesnt time fly

It only seems like yesterday that was trying to kick the shite out young corner forwards,  :P :P

Awwww well thank god for small graces
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: shady character on February 23, 2007, 11:26:19 AM
Ok so you are a waster on spends all day on a computer too Slim.
Suppose your occupation is irrelevant!

Whilst I cannot speak for Creggan committee, I can safely say the decision wasn't largely based on political ideals but
rather on implications this would most definitely of had for our club.

When you make a decision Slim you weigh up the pros and cons. Enough said.
If I joined the PSNI tomorrow would I get the boot? Without giving you the satisfaction of taking this pathetic piece of bait,
I will answer your question. It takes time to initiate change. It took time for the GAA to banish rule 21 and 42, so as it has taken time and will take more time for nationalists/republicans to fully accept the PSNI.

If you joined the police tomorrow Slim, I reckon Cargin would boot you out....you'd try and join Creggan pleading with us as you do on this site how you have 2 championsip medals...only for big tony to tell you to piss off, not because of your occupation but rather because you are a chube!!  :D

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 23, 2007, 11:32:55 AM
so it is acceptable then? you failed to answer yet again.

what has changed since yer man joined? the name is the same, the uniforms the same?

Its time to step out of the dark ages, I'm also aware of a certain couple of members who turned their backs on SF recently  ;)



 :D the day and hour i put a Creggan shirt on my back will be a dark one. Never gonna happen! I might be shite, but at least I'm shite at a successful club  :D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on February 23, 2007, 12:58:34 PM
I been reading the following thread fro a few weeks now and I feel its time to join into the discussion.
Point number one, I'm a Creggan lad, so Slim, don't shoot just let.
Firstly Slim, a bit of respect wouldn’t go amiss. Well all know that you dislike Creggan, fair enough but keep it respectful. I always hated Cargin on the pitch, but enjoyed a drink with the lads after the matches and most Creggan lads’ respect how the Cargin club is run. It’s called respectful competition.  Although we are a smaller club, I believe that we can be proud of our achievements.
Secondly slim, I notice that you slag off Creggan's two championships as you have the same total. Does that mean St Johns and Bellaghy lads can slag Cargin off as being shite since they would have members who would have twice the championship medals as the Cargin club would have all together, I don't think so, do you?
Thirdly lads, (shady Char included), PH was not kicked out of the Creggan club as the club had no legal position to do so after the rule was abolished. I believe the club asked PH to sit out for a year since we were getting threats about playing matches from a number of clubs before the season started. PH didn't want to do this and I believe there was a split and legal proceedings were threatened. The threats were against our club so we were in a position that we couldn't guarantee U-10, U-12's safety aswell as the seniors. That was the position the club was in.

I believe that history will look kindly on PH, as the sooner we get as many taigs into the PSNI, the better for all of us
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 23, 2007, 01:40:16 PM
jeesh, where do i start...


I always hated Cargin on the pitch, but enjoyed a drink with the lads after the matches and most Creggan lads’ respect how the Cargin club is run.

Bollocks.

''I notice that you slag off Creggan's two championships as you have the same total''

show me where i slagged them?

''the club asked PH to sit out for a year since we were getting threats about playing matches from a number of clubs before the season started. PH didn't want to do this and I believe there was a split''

why should he sit out? because of threats made by people of your own club? (come on now, everyone knows these 'threats' weren't from elsewhere) It was those people who should have been booted out!

''I believe that history will look kindly on PH''

Correct.


''we were getting threats about playing matches from a number of clubs before the season started''

disgraceful lie right there, totally disgraceful.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 23, 2007, 01:56:06 PM
p.s.

does any of you dudes know when the Championship Draw is taking place? Most other counties have theirs done.

But then again, Antrim isnt most other counties i s'pose!  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 23, 2007, 01:59:27 PM
Does anyone know the draw for the SWS Antrim Feile Football , there is always some good football played at his level
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on February 23, 2007, 02:09:24 PM
SW Feile. Dont know full draw, but Stinsons play Lisburn. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on February 23, 2007, 04:05:23 PM
Slim, just responding to a couple of points.

“Bollocks.

''I notice that you slag off Creggan's two championships as you have the same total''

show me where i slagged them?
Slim”

Right here
 Re: Whats the highest Level you've played GAA at?
« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2007, 03:59:04 PM »   

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Correct, thats what i am. A mid 20's flop with more wee gold ones than the whole of Creggans history!!!   

I thought that that comment was a bit cheap, that’s all.

Regarding your point
“why should he sit out? because of threats made by people of your own club? (come on now, everyone knows these 'threats' weren't from elsewhere) It was those people who should have been booted out!”

You have a point here slim as I have to take peoples word on the issue. There would be a bit of hearsay with a number of the stories.  There was a number of reported “friendlies’ asked for as long as we brought PH etc etc., and a number of requests not to travel with our juv. teams

What I do know is that during the year, in a number of matches when things were getting a bit hot and heavy, the opposition made remarks as to cop lovers, brits, etc, so the club on certain instances were identified with PH joining the PSNI and in my view were targeted.

Personally, I believe we should have played PH as I think it would have been the right thing to do and as we agree, 'I believe that history will look kindly on PH'



Correct.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 23, 2007, 04:09:45 PM
show me where i slagged Creggans 2 Intermediate wins?

why would I? Sure didnt i play in it myself and won it. Played in lower Championships than that and will again, i have no doubt.

you cant quote me on words i did not say!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on February 23, 2007, 04:11:38 PM
'I believe that history will look kindly on PH'

PC Peader the statesman  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on February 25, 2007, 09:27:29 PM
Any chance you 3/4/5 couldn't change the name of this thread to "South West Antrim Shite"?
Maybe start a new one about football.

Win for the saffrons today...hopefully a couple more before the year is out. Anyone at it? Anyone stand out?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on February 25, 2007, 10:22:36 PM
Yeah

good to see for Jody and the boys, this is the ony report i could find, hopefully we get a better one from someone who was at the game.

 
 
Two defeats put Jody Gormley's side in relegation trouble
Antrim notched their first NFL Division 2B win of the season when they beat Waterford 1-13 to 0-8 in Dungarvan.
The Saffrons trailed 0-5 to 0-4 at the interval but an Aiden Gallagher goal helped them fight back to win easily.

Antrim had lost their opening two games against Wicklow and Meath and were already looking likely candidates for Division 4 football next season.

Waterford beat Wexford in their opening NFL game while Antrim had been hit by a flu bug leading up to the match.





 
 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 26, 2007, 09:52:11 AM
 A gritty first half performance when facing into the teeth of a strong breeze set Jody Gormley’s Antrim side up for their first win of the League, and their third victory in as many years over a disappointing Waterford side at Dungarvan yesterday.

It was obvious from the start of this tie that wind was going to be a major factor in deciding the result, and when Waterford went in at the break with a slender one-point lead after enjoying the advantage, an Antrim win was very much on the cards.

The visitors picked off three excellent first half points from play with limited opportunities, while the home side persisted in playing a short passing game, and with poor finishing, ran up a total of nine first half wides to Antrim’s three.

Waterford started well with top player Gary Hurney back in the side at corner forward, and it looked ominous for Antrim as he shot the home side into the lead in the second minute.

A sideline kick by Mick Ahearn was carried by the breeze and bounced over the bar to give Waterford a two-point lead in the 11th minute, but the hard-working Antrim half-back trio of McGoldrick, Bell and Scullion were giving little away and Waterford had to wait until the 19th minute for a Brian Wall point from a free to take a three-point lead.

In the 22nd minute, Darrel Martin got forward at the end of a good Antrim move to score his side’s second point and, as Waterford’s wides tally mounted, full-forward Michael McCann sent over a vital Antrim point to leave just one between the sides.

Minutes later O’Lionain was forced off injured to be replaced in attack by Stephen Cunningham and Waterford’s last score of the first half came from a Brian Wall free in the 30th minute.

It was Paddy Cunningham who lifted Antrim spirits with a pointed free in the 32nd minute to leave the half-time score 0-5 to 0-4 in Waterford’s favour.

Two minutes into the second half Cunningham had the sides level for the first time.

The decisive score came 15 minutes into the second half when, after Sean McVeigh won a great ball in midfield, Aodhan Gallagher raced through the Waterford defence to shoot a great goal for a 1–10 to 0–7 lead.

After 15 minutes without a score it was Michael Rae who increased the Antrim lead with five minutes remaining.

Waterford were reduced to 14 players with three minutes remaining when Eddie Rockett was dismissed for a second yellow card, and a late point from a free by substitute Jason Ryan was all they had to offer before Kevin Niblock had the final say with a point on the final whistle.

Antrim manager Jody Gormley was happy to get the win, his side’s first of the League: “It was always going to be difficult coming down here. We knew Waterford were playing well so it was not going to be easy. I was very pleased with the way the players battled for the ball when facing the strong breeze in the first half and trailing by just a single point at the break left us in a good position. We dominated in midfield in the second third of the game.”



MATCH STATS

Antrim: S McGreevey, P Doherty, C Lynch,

N Ward, C McGoldrick(0-2), G Bell, T Scullion, D Martin (0-1), S McVeigh, C Brady (0-1), K Brady, A Gallagher (1-0), K. Niblock (0-1), M McCann (0-2), P Cunningham (0-5) Subs:

M Rae (0-1) for K Brady, A McClean for Bell,

C McGourty for C Brady.

Waterford: T Wall, S Briggs, J Phelan, E Walsh, D Hickey, E Rockett, P Ogle, M Ahearn(0-1), J Hurney, B Wall (0-2), G Power, W Hennessy, G Hurney (0-3), A Hubbard, L O’Lionain (0-1). Subs: L Lawlor for J Hurney, T O’Gorman for Phelan, J Ryan (0-1) for Hennessy.

Ref: S. Joyce (Wexford)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 26, 2007, 10:58:14 AM
Seems to be a great 2nd half performance which is great news as in the past few games we've fallen away in the latter stages. i still think there is a lot of progress to be made though i'm still confident we'll chin the in-breds over the bann in the Championship.

''Eddie Rockett was dismissed for a second yellow card''

his chicken burgers are rotten too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on February 26, 2007, 06:56:24 PM
Was COLIN Brady playing wing half forward?

Did he score a point?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Last Fence on February 26, 2007, 07:44:32 PM
I was talking to one of the boys today... and by all accounts the scre should have been much higher but for a nasty wind
and also said that the team that was shown in the irish news today was not how they lined out!! but i didnt get the line out
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on March 06, 2007, 04:54:21 PM
Stinsons discussion continued from derry thread,

Max what name would you give the team that Ahoghill merge with , surely this is what Ahoghill have done with Portglenone, they have merged and rather than call the team Portglenone (therefore losing their identity) they have called it Sean Stinsons giving them a new Identity at undergae level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on March 06, 2007, 06:55:21 PM
Just read some of the Stinsons debate from the Derry thread. 
Max,
What factual basis have you that Portglenone would be able to field underage teams on there own?
If you ask any of them team managers over the last few years they would tell you it wouldn't be possible to field 15 aside without Stinsons.  There may be the odd exception where at a specific age group 15 aside could be fielded, but it couldn't be done for all teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 07, 2007, 10:44:13 AM
Unlikely if Max would want to stay involved in this discussion. He has already dug a big enough hole for himself, all without factual evidence to back it up!

Bottom line is birthrate stats are falling rapidly, and a lot of rural clubs will be needing to join up for juvenile purposes. When Portglenone went solo, they were a division four team, fact. Within a few years of the amalgamation with Ahoghill, they were winning four in a row minor c`ships. This in turn fed a winning mentality, and currently Portglenone are up in the top four or five teams in the county.

Now, where is the difficulty with all this. If it was a case that they were continually too strong for other SW clubs, at juvenile level, then you could see how some clubs may find this unfair. But in reality their success rate in juvenile competition just about manages to get them into the top four or five in the SW.

Its a no brainer really, the important thing is to promote the game, and all involved in Stinsons realise that its a step that is essential to be able to field teams. What Max thinks of the situation is irrelevant, and is exposed for the hypocritical rant it was. (Bellaghy and Ballynease GAC)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on March 07, 2007, 10:52:13 AM
OK this is not about football but is relevant to the current debate.

2007 will see the introduction of a new amalgamation hurling club in the glens - St. Brendan's - this is an amalgamation of 3 clubs - Cloughmills, Cushendun and Glenravel.

Apart from U14 level where Cushendun have numbers to field on their own - all other grades will be St. Brendan's. Just shows the direction things are headed for rural clubs with no centre of population to draw from.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Uladh on March 07, 2007, 10:57:37 AM

Interesting piece in the star yesterday from mchugh on you boys and why antrim players aren't performing for the county when they are every bit as good and better than their counterparts from other counties at university level. any thoughts on that hypothesis?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 07, 2007, 11:19:34 AM
Have you got the article Uladh?

I would say that it's only this last year or two they've started to perform at the same level at university.

You look at it and over the last ten years there'd not be a significant number of Antrim players who could get on sigerson teams - you'd a lot this year granted but before that quinn, brady, madden, owen doherty and sean kelly were the only ones I mind.

There is no doubt about it - the standard of football in Antrim is better than the county team situation would suggest. Sure a club won the ulster club the other year and then there was another team who beat them this year which would suggest club football isn't that unhealthy. Outside the top 3 or 4 you may be struggling though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 07, 2007, 02:41:45 PM
If is, as we all know, a small word with a big meaning.

But IF Crozier hadnt have played for the minors that day, and IF CJ hadnt played for La Salle, Antrim would have won last years Ulster u-21 c`ship. They ran the winnersTyrone, to two points(one highly disputed) in Omagh in the semi-final.

If they had been available, and the tie at Casement, then I`d reckon Antrim would have been far too strong for Tyrone( who by the way ran away with an All-Ireland minor title with largely the same squad)

In fact, with those two available, and the St Galls lads well settled into the team following their AI club exploits, then I would have expected that Antrim side to have gone the whole way.

When this group matures in the next year or so, Antrim will be a major force to be reckoned with. Mc Hugh can have his own opinion, but Antrim football is on a steady progress chart.

This group of players do not need to be told that. They are a good bunch(and they know they are) who will make it happen for themselves.  Its up to the rest of us to share their BELIEF.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on March 07, 2007, 03:10:09 PM
I have herad that the Aontroim v Loch Garman match this weekend is on Saturday night under lights , is this true ????
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 07, 2007, 03:11:37 PM
I believe...I believe ;D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 07, 2007, 03:16:56 PM
If is, as we all know, a small word with a big meaning.

But IF Crozier hadnt have played for the minors that day, and IF CJ hadnt played for La Salle, Antrim would have won last years Ulster u-21 c`ship. They ran the winnersTyrone, to two points(one highly disputed) in Omagh in the semi-final.

If they had been available, and the tie at Casement, then I`d reckon Antrim would have been far too strong for Tyrone( who by the way ran away with an All-Ireland minor title with largely the same squad)

In fact, with those two available, and the St Galls lads well settled into the team following their AI club exploits, then I would have expected that Antrim side to have gone the whole way.

When this group matures in the next year or so, Antrim will be a major force to be reckoned with. Mc Hugh can have his own opinion, but Antrim football is on a steady progress chart.

This group of players do not need to be told that. They are a good bunch(and they know they are) who will make it happen for themselves.  Its up to the rest of us to share their BELIEF.

you make it sound like Crozier opted to play for the minors when both you and i  know it wasnt the case.... isnt that right johnjoe?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 07, 2007, 03:39:01 PM
Slim, the whole Crozier thing took on a life of its own. In fairness the lad himself was blameless - put in a really tight spot not of his doing. But there were a lot of influences at work, some trying hard to get him freed up, others trying to make sure he wasnt freed up. Some selectors wanting him in against Tyrone, and others unbelievably reckoning he was over-rated.

Wonder did they think he was over-rated after his display against St Galls. Muppets. Probably cost us an Ulster. Personally I`m his biggest fan, and have been looking out for him since he was about 15. Class act. Sigerson medal and co senior at 19. All we need is a few more like him!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 07, 2007, 03:40:40 PM
Why are we harping back to "what could have been " last year against Tyrone U-21's ? Lets move on.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: loughshore lad on March 07, 2007, 03:43:08 PM
Saw Justin Crozier play a few times between playing for Cargin seniors, Antrim minors and in the McRory cup. He was absolutely outstanding every game I saw him no doubt about it hes a class act, reminded me of Henry Downey the way he carried the game to the opposition.
well saying he has Tyrone blood in him  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 07, 2007, 03:53:02 PM
He won a Sigerson medal, a Senior C'ship medal and an U-21 Club C'ship medal all in the one year.

not a bad year i suppose  :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Sausalito Bay on March 08, 2007, 01:34:23 PM
He won a Sigerson medal, a Senior C'ship medal and an U-21 Club C'ship medal all in the one year.

not a bad year i suppose  :P

Surely the SFC and U21 were last year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 08, 2007, 01:44:21 PM
March 2006 he had none of those medals, March 2007 he has the 3 of them.

NOT A BAD YEAR!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 08, 2007, 02:33:48 PM
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But IF Crozier hadnt have played for the minors that day, and IF CJ hadnt played for La Salle, Antrim would have won last years Ulster u-21 c`ship. They ran the winners Tyrone, to two points(one highly disputed) in Omagh in the semi-final.

Im sure that maybe they might have made a difference, but can you honestly say that they would have beaten tyrone.  Tyrone would have raised their game, they definitely went into that game with a sense of arrogance!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 08, 2007, 02:49:10 PM
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But IF Crozier hadnt have played for the minors that day, and IF CJ hadnt played for La Salle, Antrim would have won last years Ulster u-21 c`ship. They ran the winners Tyrone, to two points(one highly disputed) in Omagh in the semi-final.

Im sure that maybe they might have made a difference, but can you honestly say that they would have beaten tyrone.  Tyrone would have raised their game, they definitely went into that game with a sense of arrogance!
Crozier and McGourty both played for Antrim minors in some whackfuckery Minor League match rather than the under-21 championship match.  Antrim may or may not have beaten Tyrone had both played for the under-21s.

However, I would expect both to make Antrim's first fifteen for the Senior championship this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 08, 2007, 03:21:07 PM
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March 2006 he had none of those medals, March 2007 he has the 3 of them.


Its a good year for any footballer, for an antrim footballer...well...its a minor miracle :o :o....I believe, I believe :D


Lads I was just thinking, its going to be some craic here the week before and after the senior championship match
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 08, 2007, 03:32:06 PM
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But IF Crozier hadnt have played for the minors that day, and IF CJ hadnt played for La Salle, Antrim would have won last years Ulster u-21 c`ship. They ran the winners Tyrone, to two points(one highly disputed) in Omagh in the semi-final.

Im sure that maybe they might have made a difference, but can you honestly say that they would have beaten tyrone.  Tyrone would have raised their game, they definitely went into that game with a sense of arrogance!
Crozier and McGourty both played for Antrim minors in some whackfuckery Minor League match rather than the under-21 championship match.  Antrim may or may not have beaten Tyrone had both played for the under-21s.

However, I would expect both to make Antrim's first fifteen for the Senior championship this year.

it wasnt their fault Sam, the all knowing johnjoe will tell you that as he knows all the goings on regarding that saga  ;) ;) wink wink nudge nudge
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 08, 2007, 03:36:19 PM
Nrico, Two full sides at Casement, no doubt Antrim would have won. But thats only an opinion, something we will never know. The players themselves know that, and thats the main thing. Their day will come.
But it still makes me sick to know that our first Ulster title in years was fucked up by a mixture of ignorance by certain selectors, and officialdom who still cant face up to the fact.

Bottom line is the match was lost off the field. Thats my opinion and sorry, but it will never change. Now, as Syd said yesterday, we must put it behind us and hopefully that group will put it right for themselves in future years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 08, 2007, 04:52:46 PM
Johnjoe, , stating that they would win, no doubt isexpressing a certain amount of certainty around antrims chances of beating tyrone at casement.  I simply believe that Tyrone players would have raised their game if need be.  Do you think that antrims u-21 side this year will challenge Tyrones then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 09, 2007, 03:40:53 PM
Wouldnt be right of me to cast aspersions on this years side, and maybe i am a bit biased, as Slim will know, but last years team was our best chance for a long time, and certain people managed to completely screw it up.

Question is, how many St Johns players will make the starting 15 this year, and more importantly, how many should?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 09, 2007, 03:49:13 PM
yes, Slim knows 'johnjoes' side of the story  ;)

it took me a while to work out if it was definitely you but now i'm sure!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 11, 2007, 03:41:24 PM
Antrim 1-10 Wexford 2-14 Was it as bad as the scoreline suggests?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on March 11, 2007, 07:33:20 PM
Anyone there who can post a report?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 11, 2007, 07:43:22 PM
We got our goal at the death to give the scoreline some semblance of respectability......I was gonna say its gonna be a long season but i think it will actually be pretty short !!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on March 11, 2007, 07:47:34 PM
yeah, and after Derry's win today a lot of lads will head of for the summer earlier than normal
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 12, 2007, 10:10:27 AM
Said it before and I`ll say it again.

If you were compiling a list of our best 10 or 12 players in the county, all or most of the followiing would be on that list.

In no particular order, Convery, Mc Gourty, O`Boyle, Micko, O`Boyle again, Kelly, Magill., and Andy Mc Clean. Then there is Crozier and young CJ. Theres 10 would be on my county team.

I know theres all sorts of reasons why the above werent available yesterday, but the facts are we are a pretty poor outfit without them. If I were Jody, I know what my priorities would be over the next few weeks.

Plus, I would be sitting down with players and getting them to state, or sign up, to their position on going to the States, to avoid last years debacle of guys playing on a saturday, knowing if they were beaten they were off to Boston or somewhere within a few hours.

Looks like the white flag was thrown in again yesterday, thats the sad thing!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 12, 2007, 12:33:28 PM
Anyone know when is the Antrim v Derry under 21 game, and where?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 12, 2007, 02:05:21 PM
Said it before and I`ll say it again.

If you were compiling a list of our best 10 or 12 players in the county, all or most of the followiing would be on that list.

In no particular order, Convery, Mc Gourty, O`Boyle, Micko, O`Boyle again, Kelly, Magill., and Andy Mc Clean. Then there is Crozier and young CJ. Theres 10 would be on my county team.

I agree with what you are saying but some people think we are gonna automatically win Sam if we get these players back. Quite a few of the lads you have mentioned were playing last year against Clare in the qualifiers and we all know what happened there......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 12, 2007, 03:06:26 PM
Cant think of anyone Syd who is expecting we would win Sam any time soon, even with those players back. But without them we dont have a strong enough panel to challenge for anything other than, dare I say the words, TMC.

And without those players would that even be a safe bet?

Maybe its the Monday blues, but that was a sickener yesterday, and there is no point dressing it up as anything else!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on March 12, 2007, 03:50:50 PM
When will we wake up and realise that we are the worst football team in Ireland, and we are throwing money at it. Lets bring back the fun factor, let the players play with their clubs and select a panel based on the best players. Season starts in three weeks

Moral in the camp must be at an all time low. I’d say Cargin or Naomh Gall or Lamhs would beat the current county team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 12, 2007, 04:23:58 PM
Who was it, was saying they expect to beat Derry in the championship :D :D...cant wait for it... :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: realredhandfan on March 12, 2007, 04:34:15 PM
hgow did you fare against the best team in tyrone yesterday max
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on March 12, 2007, 05:12:28 PM
Lets bring back the fun factor, let the players play with their clubs and select a panel based on the best players. Season starts in three weeks

Tried that with admin on the antrim website amongst other suggestion. admin thanked me for my suggestions and then proceeded to rubbish every one of them. They seem to know best
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 12, 2007, 05:51:39 PM
Yeah that admin sometimes seems like an arrogant gob****e- wonder who he is.

Milltown or skull I'm not sure about your attitude though. We just got to the AI minor quarter finals, have had some hugely impressive performers in the sigerson(yes some are in the antrim squad), had a team in the AI club final last year etc. etc. We are by no means utilising our resources to the best of our ability and that needs to be looked at but the standard of football in this county is considerably better than 30th, 31st or 32nd in the country. Granted the league campaign thus far has been duff but we'll get better. Like someone says we'll not win Sam but things can only get better.

I could see your point in the hurling with go back to clubs bu not the football.

I still reckon we'll give Derry a rattle. Just because Derry beat a shadow Armagh team yesterday and a flu ridden antrim sauqd got beat by wexford doesn't mean anything.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 12, 2007, 06:25:40 PM
Carrickmore called the game off...

doesnt mean anything :D :D :D..delusional :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on March 12, 2007, 11:01:18 PM
Away back to the Derry site Max, or give odds on you beating us by less than ten - I'll take them.

Agree with the calls to get the players back/on board. Do it now...Jody has been right to stick to his guns but here and now you get the best panel together. With Sigerson/McKenna cup out of the way it should be full steam ahead to the championship and the thrashing we are going to receive by Derry...the odds max?

eg I have no clue for example what has been said between McGourty and Jody but (and it pains me to say this) we need him on board.
The best players should be playing for the county, because they want to. I have no doubt that when the first round of the championship is on the horizon the same boys will want to be playing.
If I could I would.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on March 13, 2007, 08:45:01 AM
Kevin wont be playing for Antrim this year he’s heading off to the states this summer with his kid brother, that’s for sure, he probably wont play for the club either so stop the nonsense.
For years Antrim people thought that we were a good football team, it was in 82 that we got past the first round then it took 25 years I think to get past the first round again when we beat Down. Every year people come on and say we are going to give it a rattle, it’s not going to happen.

I witnessed last year the commitment it took to get to the All Ireland final (club) last year. It was serious training plus the lads were on diets to beef up and the fitness levels were kept up every day, the players had daily training plans plus rest days and all there needs were catered for (cost the club a fortune) but they almost got the reward. Big sacrifices were made from the management, players and committee.

Can the Antrim squad put their hands up and say that they are that committed? I doubt it, when they want to compete at the top go and ask the ex management of Naomh Gall on what it takes to get there. Until then get used to playing in the TMC
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 13, 2007, 10:26:29 AM
Two Mc Gourtys for the States, and God knows who else. If I was Jody I`d be getting the list sorted out now, who is going, and who isnt?

Milltown, no doubt St Galls emptied the tank to win the AI club last year, and were by far the better team, but a few experienced scoretakers froze on the day. Question is, how big is the desire to get back to that stage, now that you know the work involved (and the burnout).

Whitey used the B c`ship as a stepping stone to better things, and realistically I believe that unless Antrim are at full strength, and a bit more experienced, then anything else is beyond them IN THE SHORT TERM. If Jody could win the TMC, I`d be happy enough, with something to build on for next season. Thats not to say we couldnt have a lash at "inconsistent" Derry. But at the minute the odds are stacked in their favour, and only a fool would dispute that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 15, 2007, 10:19:00 AM
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Thats not to say we couldnt have a lash at "inconsistent" Derry. But at the minute the odds are stacked in their favour, and only a fool would dispute that!

JohnJoe are you trying to suggest your not a fool :D ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 16, 2007, 11:34:49 AM
Away wi ye Max, I wouldnt be one for gettin into a slanging match.

Anyway, how are the famous Tones shaping up. Hows pre-season going, any recent challenges, and are you really sure Cass hasnt brought the footballs out yet? Have ye a game at the weekend Max, and how do you expect it to go?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hightower on March 19, 2007, 01:15:56 PM
johnjoe by the sounds of it u should've been senior manager,u would'nt be long sorting it out ,i think ur right max  (FOOL)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 20, 2007, 09:14:07 AM
any games at the weekend lads? we beat a very young Whitehill team in the O'Cahan Cup on Friday night under their lights.

i hear Rasharkin lost to St Johns in the Reserve Final also (last years!!)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 20, 2007, 01:25:39 PM
Hightower, whats your problem? Surely you can come up with some logical viewpoint that pinpoints something you disagree with. But to come on and make such a statement without backing it up, just shows you up to have nothing to offer the thread.

Maybe you should think about just staying on the Hogan Stand board, or alternatively surprise us all with something worthwhile.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 20, 2007, 01:50:02 PM
Slim, do you know where Johnjoe is from, between Antrim and football and Derry he seems to go to a lot of footie, even in Arboe last week?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 20, 2007, 01:53:58 PM
i do indeed Max, not only where he is from but I've had a pint with him  ;)

though he may have been drinking orange and didn't buy me one.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 20, 2007, 01:59:37 PM
Well Slim prey tell what club he is from...thats all I want to know
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 20, 2007, 02:02:05 PM
I wouldnt be divulging such info Max, not since you and yer cohorts outed me a while back!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 20, 2007, 02:05:28 PM
Slim, I had nothing to do with it, to be absolutely honest I do not have a clue who you are, even if some suggested what ur role in the team was, I haven't a clue, i never even went to the Clontribret game, it was all a wind up on my part. I would not know if I met ye...seriously
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 20, 2007, 02:11:13 PM
Slim, I had nothing to do with it, to be absolutely honest I do not have a clue who you are, even if some suggested what ur role in the team was, I haven't a clue, i never even went to the Clontribret game, it was all a wind up on my part. I would not know if I met ye...seriously

Yeah you would  ;)

but if johnjoe wants to share with you its up to him, it isnt rocket science either!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on March 20, 2007, 02:55:04 PM
come on slim tell us all, mick magill especially wants to know who he is  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 20, 2007, 02:56:32 PM
Mick knows!! of that i am certain.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on March 20, 2007, 02:57:30 PM
well let us know then, magill tore his head off yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 20, 2007, 03:40:44 PM
This Magill thing lads, look I made a comment about Mick that didnt sit too easily. Something along the lines of the most talented footballer in the county ( major compliment) followed by a question mark about his committment and dedication etc.

I wish when I was 24. that I had half of Micks ability and physique, etc, and he still is in a position to influence that. If he takes offence at me discussing this on an open forum like this, then as I said before he was in a brilliant position to prove me, and any other doubters wrong.

Two facts still exist. One, Magill can still be the best if he has the desire to do so, and Two, his removal from Jodys squad had absolutely nothing to do with me. Hopefully he will be a success with the hurlers and if so it will be footballs loss.

Now, if Michael has a problem with that, and he obviously knows my identity, I am happy to discuss it in a sensible way, because Antrim still need him doing his stuff. Or maybe he wants to channel his energy in taking my head off for trying to do him a favour!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on March 20, 2007, 03:55:53 PM
All pretty petty at the minute lads, ripping peoples heads off for a bit of slagging
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 20, 2007, 03:59:25 PM
petty indeed, and it got boring a brave while ago!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on March 20, 2007, 04:00:57 PM
magill is class act as we all know, oozes talent! hopefully he gets into a bit of nick for the summer and does the job on the field, put all his doubters to rest!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hightower on March 20, 2007, 06:48:07 PM
RE;Johnjoe.
1-K Mc Gourty hasn't proved it at county level and a liability(fermanagh game 2006)
2-Micko hasn't proved it at club level,goes missing in the big games-2005 semi,2006 final
3-G O'Boyle,Cargin proved they could win a championship playing better as a team without him
4- CJ Mc Gourty,while a good footballer an awful attitude to goading other players(hence G Bell clipping a few weeks ago)won't get off with at county level or the states
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on March 20, 2007, 09:29:55 PM
Hightower

3 of the 4 players you mentioned, with young CJ being the exception, would surely be automatic selections for Jody if they came onboard and towed the line, IMO Antrim would be a better team with them than without them, they may have attitudes but to question their talent, is unfounded
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 20, 2007, 09:39:28 PM
Hightower

3 of the 4 players you mentioned, with young CJ being the exception, would surely be automatic selections for Jody if they came onboard and towed the line, IMO Antrim would be a better team with them than without them, they may have attitudes but to question their talent, is unfounded

A manager has to decide who is in charge of the team, him or some players. For fcuks sake if Mc Gourty came back how long would it be until he decided the showers werent warm enough, or that there was too much milk in his tea after training,then he hits speed dial on his phone and gets the Irish News for another "Exclusive Heartbreaker From Kevin"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on March 21, 2007, 09:12:34 AM
Syd I agree with you, what I am saying is that he is a talented footballer, thats all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 21, 2007, 10:12:16 AM
Agree with hightower, kevin mc gourty hasnt proved or achieved anything at county level, and its not like hes a young cub breaking through at 20/21, hes about 25.  Fair enough he apparently played well in the sigerson final, but thats not county standard - its against boys who are nearly all 4 or 5 years younger than him too.  As mentioned, where was he against fermanagh last summer, or Clare?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 21, 2007, 10:27:26 AM
Well at least this thread has got back on to the first page - thought for a few days it was dying.

Hightower, you are entitled to your opinion just like the rest of us, but my earlier point is that we are a damn middling team without the nine players I listed last week. Why have I a feeling you are on the panel, and dont welcome any further opposition to your place.

The bottom line is we dont have anywhere near a panel of 20-25 grade A players at inter county level, and the inclusion of a few of the ones missing would be a big help. I also recognise there is the potential for disruption to the panel, but at the end of the day its Jody`s choice, and he will have to deal with all the pros and cons, including the possible consequences of failure without them.

And lets keep the debate healthy and forget about the ripping off heads stuff, thats for delinquents. Lets move on.

Now on a more serious note, HOW MANY ST JOHNS PLAYERS HAVE BEEN PICKED, BY THE ST JOHNS MANAGEMENT TEAM FOR SATURDAY`S UNDER 21`S VERSUS DERRY!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on March 21, 2007, 02:31:55 PM
Far too many Johnnies men in that set up. Most of them not up to the standard. Meade has been on the panel as last 3 yrs, no harm to the lad but hes not up to it at all, carries to much weight and from what i hear isnt fond of training too much!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Truth on March 21, 2007, 06:36:51 PM
Far too many Johnnies men in that set up. Most of them not up to the standard. Meade has been on the panel as last 3 yrs, no harm to the lad but hes not up to it at all, carries to much weight and from what i hear isnt fond of training too much!

I saw Meade hurling last year for St Johns and couldnt believe the size of him, he must be 18st.....What a heap
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 22, 2007, 10:18:03 AM
I have a gut feeling that two or three St Johns players will make the starting 15, and possibly another one or two introduced during the game.

Thats possibly FIVE in total.

Which is what I have been scared of all along with so many St Johns mentors involved. If this happens this will be nepotism(favouring ones own)of the hiighest order.

Last years last minute debacle was bad enough, with Meade an obvious liability (replaced after 15 minutes after missing the first three balls), but St Johns mentors cant be allowed to get away with it again.

QUESTION? Name a St Johns player who has the known ability to even be on the panel?

Im not for letting this go if it happens. f**king diabolical. Will be the end of that management team!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 22, 2007, 10:30:57 AM
Went on to the u-21 thread and just saw the team and panel.

That must be a wind up. Cant be the official  team. No Windows, No Franklin, No Pollock, all three played well last year. Wheres Declan O Hagan from St Brigids, another good player from last year?

And there ARE 5 St Johns on the panel, two on the team.

Dick Turpin at least wore a mask. These men are having a laugh - SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS A BAD JOKE.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 22, 2007, 10:33:43 AM
its no wind up, the team has been named and they train again tonight. I spoke with one of our lads earlier today who confirmed that team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 22, 2007, 11:05:48 AM
Pure and unadulterated favouritism of the highest level. Was going to Celtic Park, but sod that now.

O Prey has lost any respect or goodwill that he may have had last year by allowing this to happen. 5 St Johns players, and can anyone tell me which one of them is remotely likely to play senior county football in the next five years? Can ANYONE even tell me which one of them is a real good player !!!!

Five players, three selectors/ backroom team, what chance has the other players got?

What is the crack with Pollock, Franklin, Windows , etc. They are not even listed and I heard they were on the panel. Have to say I dont like this at all. BIG STINK, NOT NICE!

This year group had potential, but looks to be well and truly fucked up.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 22, 2007, 11:12:45 AM
after the way the Johnnies U21's behaved in the Final in December its an absolute disgrace that anyone involved with that team- players or management- should be let near a county side. in fact i'd go as far to say the management of that team should have faced disciplinary action for allowing their team to behave in such a manner. i wont be near Celtic Park anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on March 22, 2007, 12:38:39 PM
JJ you seem a tad upset by this team selection, its not the players fault that they are picked, its the manager's fault and the County Board for selecting the management, surely these selecters didn't become biased overnight, did nobody see this coming, Is it the whole team selection or just the inclusion of the ST Johns lads thats the problem, I personnally dont have enough knowledge of the players invloved to be critical but JJ you seem to have, boycotting the game wont help the Antrim Football Cause,

Slim - your only beef with the selection is that the St John's lads ruffed yous up a bit, hardly seems an objective view, are you happy with rest of the slection
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 22, 2007, 12:45:50 PM
no, its a poor team picked by poor selectors. i could name a better u21 team with ease. yes, there'd be 4 or 5 of that team on that cant be ignored- Crozier, McCann, Hasson, McGourty but theres little else.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 22, 2007, 12:46:32 PM
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Slim - your only beef with the selection is that the St John's lads ruffed yous up a bit, hardly seems an objective view, are you happy with rest of the slection

A red rag to a bull I think :D :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 22, 2007, 12:49:28 PM
I was looking through the paper and have just realised that your u21s play Derry in Celtic park and then in the evening ye are hosts to Cavan in the natioanl league. Now theres planning and partnership working at national level for the benefit of Antrim football. Does the county board have any sway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on March 22, 2007, 12:57:38 PM
No surprise there Max,

I think last year the County fixed a Minor Match the same day as the U21 Championship match, resulting in 1 of the Minors no being allowed to play for the U21's namely Crozier, surely he would have made at difference, he is a very good club player,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on March 22, 2007, 01:02:30 PM
no, its a poor team picked by poor selectors. i could name a better u21 team with ease. yes, there'd be 4 or 5 of that team on that cant be ignored- Crozier, McCann, Hasson, McGourty but theres little else.

Go head Slim, name it, just for the craic,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on March 22, 2007, 02:43:04 PM
Windows was dropped off the squad, don't know why
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on March 22, 2007, 04:34:07 PM
No surprise there Max,

I think last year the County fixed a Minor Match the same day as the U21 Championship match,

As is the case once again this Saturday - Antrim minors play Ulster League in Aghagallon before the same management have to get their way up to Celtic Park for the U21 game, and then Seniors play in Casement that evening.

Absolute disaster of an organisation.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Fr Ted on March 22, 2007, 04:56:21 PM
Speaking of disasters, i see the league fixtures are posted on the Antrim GAA site, matches fixed for nov 07.

Put on your thermals for that one!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: slow corner back on March 22, 2007, 06:52:00 PM
Dont worry Ted the november games wont be played until at least January!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hightower on March 22, 2007, 07:05:55 PM
Would Timmy C have no say in what goes on or is he just a yesman,
is the Banagher manager not a selector as well slim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 23, 2007, 12:35:59 PM
The Banagher manager did his three years with u-21`s. Year one lost by three in Crossmaglen without Magill, Paul Doc, and Karl Stewart, for different reasons. Armagh beat Derry by 14 in Ulster final, and win all Ireland.

Year Two, beaten by 7 pts in Omagh, no excuses.

Year Three, beat Fermanagh by 12, and withut Crozier and CJ lose by 2 pts in Omagh, with a point disallowed. Ulster title thrown away. Tyrone lose in extra time to Mayo, AI winners. Provincial and poss AI title screwed up by officialdom.

Timmy Connolly brought in by Delargy, and very popular with players. With Delargy he had a big influence on team selection, but apparently his opinions completely overruled by O`Prey this year.

Ethan, see Page 49 for a comment I made re the certainty that this team would have strong pro-St John bias, and I saw it coming a long time ago. Total shambles of a selection , and O`Prey can be ashamed of himself. As for him in todays Irish News trying to take credit for changing the mindset, what a load of shite.

What he has done is to send a team out on Saturday in the worst mental shape ever and I expect his inadequacies to be exploited on Saturday. Good luck to the players, they cant help all this going on around them. They can still put up a performance in spite of the management. Will be there to cheer the lads on, but I fear the worst!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: mightysaffrons on March 23, 2007, 12:59:13 PM
would just like tosay crozier is more than just a very good club player....he had an excellent sigerson cup and with him beller and sean kelly(when hes back) in the half back line we would be extremely solid there!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 23, 2007, 01:10:56 PM
Re Club Minor Football.

Any Antrim clubs looking for a challenge against a right and decent Derry club team, this Sunday.

Kilrea will travel, or host.

What about your lads Slim, could you check it out, or anyone else. Thanks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 23, 2007, 01:17:10 PM
would probably have taken it but too late now. We 'train' on Saturday with a couple of games. I hear Moortown are looking about friendlies, think they played Rasharkin last night though cant be sure. they certainly asked us for a friendly a couple of weeks ago.


Edit: Surely this is a pisstake and you wouldnt try and give away your identity?!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 23, 2007, 01:38:01 PM
Not at all slim. Have a good friend from Kilrea who manages their minor team, and has asked me to see if i know any Antrim clubs that would play them in a challenge.

Its just a straightforward football request, nothing else. I`ll get in touch with Fred Mc Vey in Moortown. Thanks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 23, 2007, 01:42:54 PM
sorry, i didnt read the 'minor' part. give me 15 mins and i'll get back to you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on March 23, 2007, 01:43:35 PM
Will somebody post up the u21 team, try and use real names please.

How about giving the team a chance, a ball hasn't been kicked yet and o'prey is been slaughtered.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 23, 2007, 02:20:22 PM
johnjoe, no word back- do you want me to PM you his number/name?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 23, 2007, 02:32:19 PM
Yea Slim, no probs. I`ve got Geordies mobile tho, if it saves any bother.

Youse should be decent this year, good u-16 last year. Kilrea would be fairly hot too though.

Rash, new un, welcome, hope you can enjoy the banter, and the occasional bit of stick.

What is your area of expertise? Managing, playing or spectating? SW or SA? Whats your prediction for Saturday then? Antrim by how many?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on March 23, 2007, 04:58:29 PM
Not exactly new JJ, i'm a long time lurker.

Not sure what to make of the u21 team but Derry are gonna be strong.

The previous minor teams against Donegal and Cavan haven't been too impressive but last years team can give us some hope.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 24, 2007, 06:01:00 PM
Derry 0-13 Antrim 1-7 U-21 Championship Result
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 24, 2007, 10:04:16 PM
Antrim 0-14 Cavan 3-10 Result. An improvement but they are still shipping stupid goals....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on March 24, 2007, 10:10:45 PM
where does the problem lie, is it the style of play, bad decision making, or as you have alluded to Syd just stupidity in the goals being let in. Has Jody improved the team?

the positive taken from this from just looking at the score is that Antrim had more scores than Cavan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Truth on March 24, 2007, 10:15:16 PM
They started well and finished well, there was only 2 points in it with about 6 or 7 minutes left but Cavan got a goal from a penalty and that was that. But they hit some bad wides, Cunningham is a good freetaker but does not offer much from general play. Cavan always got a couple of scores when Antrim were getting closer. Its too early to say what kind of impact Gormley has had but the results have been poor.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on March 25, 2007, 12:35:35 AM
Not at all slim. Have a good friend from Kilrea who manages their minor team, and has asked me to see if i know any Antrim clubs that would play them in a challenge.

Its just a straightforward football request, nothing else. I`ll get in touch with Fred Mc Vey in Moortown. Thanks.

JJ what about moving over the border and playing a Down team as well?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on March 25, 2007, 09:32:44 PM
Well lads , thats the end of the U21's for another year, the team selection got alot of discussion, was anyone at the game? what was the performance like? were they poor or were they just beaten by a better Derry team.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on March 26, 2007, 10:00:06 AM
Was at both games on Saturday, and although both beaten, it must be said that both teams battled well until the end.

In u-21`s, Derry a more cohesive side, better movement etc, and for a long time Antrim living on scraps. But a credit to get within one major score.

Seniors beaten by the same margin, and Cavan got a soft penalty to boot.

Not the whitewash I feared, so credit where it is due! I saw Cavan destroy Derry earlier this year, so keep the work going Jody, it will all be on the day, and at Casement we have every chance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Zorba the Greek on March 26, 2007, 10:35:40 AM
Football not so poor as hurlers ... Defence could do with a tightner. Quote from RTE radio on Saturday - "Antrim's defence is like Dr Who's Tardis - Small and compact from the outside, but once you get inside there's loads of space" PRICELESS..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 26, 2007, 12:58:36 PM
Another bad day at the office, so to speak, for Antrim this weekend....again. Really looking forward to the 1st round of the championship...ah well, as JJ said, they kept battling to the end :D ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on March 26, 2007, 05:10:10 PM
I notice that magill was not listed on the hurling panel at the weekend. Is he off the panel or injured?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on March 26, 2007, 05:41:22 PM
Magill not on the senior Hurling panel..think he was dropped off it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on March 26, 2007, 05:55:56 PM
So where now for Magill then if that is the case?

Does anyone actually know him? Don't want to start any debate at all again involving John Joe's head being ripped off (for making a pretty objective statement about a county player in the public eye) but just want to know.

For one of the most talented footballers and hurlers in the county what is he at?
Can he just not be arsed?
Would Jody accept him back? Would he go?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on March 27, 2007, 09:17:53 AM
Any O'Cahan cup matches played at the weekend? think they were due to be played after being cancelled last week
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: otbar on March 27, 2007, 11:09:54 AM
Sure he fractured his left hand and finger in the first NHL match against Galway.  He played half a football match last week but he is not playing hurling for us boys for a month or two.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 28, 2007, 01:15:29 PM
Not much to sprout about on this thread at the minute....wonder why ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on March 28, 2007, 03:54:52 PM
Sorry to be a bit cryptic with this query but I would rather not start a rumor which is false so with that in mind....
Does £29,000 register in anybody's mind. I heard something at the weekend and I couldn't believe it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Poocher on March 29, 2007, 02:16:35 PM
Sorry to be a bit cryptic with this query but I would rather not start a rumor which is false so with that in mind....
Does £29,000 register in anybody's mind. I heard something at the weekend and I couldn't believe it

Skull i hear ye loud and clear, I heard about it over the weekend too, not quite from the horses mouth but from serveral horses in the same stable if you catch my drift.

Serious dough.  The commitee of the club in question has a lot to answer for, how could this go un-noticed for over 2 years?

Could this have anything to do with that clubs current on field stuggles? lol
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 29, 2007, 02:19:11 PM
1000 posts  :D  Jeesh but i should do more work!!  :-\


would you pair stop talking in riddles and spill the beans?

Lets hear it skull you old fart??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on March 29, 2007, 03:10:20 PM
1000 posts  :D  Jeesh but i should do more work!!  :-\


would you pair stop talking in riddles and spill the beans?

Lets hear it skull you old fart??
Heard the same rumours from a variety of horses in the same stable also.  Not the first club along the road to be turned over by a bar manager.

On an unrelated topic, I overheard the Rossa senior football and hurling managers discussing which nights they would have training.  I think the footballers are going with monday. the hurlers Wednesday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 29, 2007, 03:11:32 PM
 :D

cheers Sam!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on March 29, 2007, 03:19:29 PM
When a rumour is confirmed twice its public knowledge.

And the £29,000 went to...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 29, 2007, 03:28:56 PM
Slim, your such a hero :D

My hero ::)

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 29, 2007, 03:33:28 PM
And you are my favourite stalker!!
Title: Club C'ship Draws
Post by: aontroim on March 29, 2007, 11:49:28 PM
Draws already on county website for c'ships;

SENIOR FOOTBALL

Preliminary Round
1. Cargin v St. Paul's
2. St. Gall's v Lámh Dhearg

Quarter Finals
Creggan v St. John's
2 v Rasharkin
1 v Gort na Mona
Portglenone v St. Brigid's

INTERMEDIATE FOOTBALL

First Round
1. Ardoyne v St. Teresa's
2. Glenravel v McDermott's
3. Moneyglass v Glenavy
4. Dunloy v Sarsfield's
5. Rossa v St. Enda's
6. Aghagallon v Davitt's
7. Aldergrove v All Saints

Quarter Finals
6 v 5
7 v Tír na nÓg
3 v 2
4 v 1

JUNIOR FOOTBALL

First Round
1. Ballycastle v St. Agnes'
2. Lisburn v Eire Óg
3. St. Malachy's v Antrim

Quarter Finals
Ballymoney v Mitchel's
O'Donnell's v Ahoghill
3 v 2
Na Fuiseoige v 1

U21 FOOTBALL

First Round
1. Tír na nÓg v St. Paul's
2. Ahoghill v All Saints
3. St. Brigid's v Sarsfield's
4. Moneyglass v Dunloy
5. Davitt's v Creggan
6. Glenravel v St. Teresa's
7. St. John's v Cargin

Second Round
Rossa v 1
4 v Aghagallon
6 v Rasharkin
Aldergrove v Lamh Dhearg
7 v Gort na Mona
2 v 3
St. Enda's v Portglenone
5 v St. Gall's

MINOR FOOTBALL

First Round
1. St. Teresa's v St. Brigid's
2. Tir na n'Og v All Saints
3. Aghagallon v St. John's
4. Ardoyne v St. Gall's
5. Moneyglass v Rossa
6. St. Enda's v Sarsfield's
7. Davitt's v Cargin

Second Round
1 v 7
Rasharkin v Gort na Mona
Aldergrove v Dunloy
Glenavy v Lamh Dhearg
Sean Stinson's v 4
St. Paul's v 2
3 v 5
6 v Creggan

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on March 30, 2007, 08:50:46 AM
Tough enough start for the defending Champions but I'm happy with it, wouldnt have wanted to draw Gort na Mona or Creggan (with all due respect) as everyone would be expecting a win. St Pauls are always a tough nut to crack and it should be a good game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 01, 2007, 09:31:39 PM
anyone at the game?

who played well/badly??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 03, 2007, 04:27:24 PM
Antrim Football seems a bit dead here.
Wot does everyone thinl of the Senior Football draw?

Any predictions for winners of the football competitions?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 03, 2007, 04:46:31 PM
St Galls seem to get caught on the hop sometimes early on - well twice with both being from Cargin and one not counting in the end but they'll have no momentum going into this one so Lamh Dhearg to cause a surprise. St Pauls are poor so Cargin to beat them. The rest to be honest will be no challenge to these two and you take Cunningham's frees out and Cargin are a good bit better so Cargin again.

Intermediate - Dunloy

Junior - the aggies or odonnells should be too good for this level. Prediction- the aggies.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on April 04, 2007, 10:31:44 AM
Cant see past Cargin, but Lamh Dearg a dark horse. Will see last year as a stepping stone to go one further, and werent a mile away when you think of it.

Anyone here know anything about the South Antrim feile, hows it going, who is fancied etc. St Galls were u-12 champions two years ago. Have they picked up half a dozen "new" players in the meantime?

St Johns had a good u-12 team last year, and looked pretty good. Any others with high expectations from the city?

Think its Aldergrove versus Stinsons in the SW final.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on April 10, 2007, 02:59:24 PM
start of the div 1 season this week Dunloy will be at Milltown, what sort of team will they bring? much improved from the first game last year i would imagine. we will be without a few regulars and a new manager so it's hard to call how we will go this year. maybe the first shock result this Sunday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronman on April 10, 2007, 06:17:16 PM
not much chat over antrims win (at last) on sunday, just goes to show that if we could stop shipping the goals we would have finished in a far higher position. good boost for the team on the run into championship. I was at the game and have to say the young lads loughery and crozier kept the tipperary star man declan browne very quiet.

at the other end the forwards looked sharp but all seemed to want to get on the score board and were selfish, the score would have been alot wider if the right option had been taken on a few occasions! anyone else attend?
saw today that derrys captain, mc guckin is definately out with a broken leg, hes their star defender and surely this gives antrim a chance come june?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 11, 2007, 10:05:28 PM
Antrim always have a chance in a one off match but they need a bit of luck too.

The teams a bit small for me though if u compare them with other successful teams.

I watched the Derry v Down 1994 game last week on TG4 and the size of those players compared to Antrims senior team now is frightening.

McGuckin is a loss surely but sure they still have lockhart, cartin, hinphy, mccloy, o'kane etc so im sure they'll not be too worried.

Its sobering to look at the line up for Div4 next year and to see Antrim alongside footballing feather-weights Tipperary, Waterfood, London etc---it shows us where we are really at.

We are lacking in so many areas (including the supporters) that it is almost impossible to be optimistic about the future.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 11, 2007, 10:11:54 PM
Antrim always have a chance in a one off match but they need a bit of luck too.


Its sobering to look at the line up for Div4 next year and to see Antrim alongside footballing feather-weights Tipperary, Waterfood, London etc---it shows us where we are really at.

What makes us think we are anything other than "footballing feather-weights"? We have been delluding ourselves for years........2 championship wins in Ulster C'Ship in 20 odd years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 11, 2007, 11:01:59 PM
Exactly

I think that by being in the same league (2A) as teams such as Meath and Cavan we dellude ourselves and think we are not as bad as we are (especially when we score 2 goals in injury time against a team pulling up and lose by 3 and have to listen to "there was only a kick of the ball in it" shite)

I think next years league will be a wake up call as to exactly where we are at (alongside Tipp and London and just behind Sligo, Wicklow, Clare and even Leitrim.

Its a sad state of affairs--ive loved Antrim since i was no age--going to Casement for the championship watching every second of the minor games to the end of the senior but is sickening getting beaten.

Im fanatical about gaelic football--for years now its been the first thing i think about when i wake up and the last thing i think about before sleeping--i believe there are many as fanatical as me but we all need to pull in the right direction and focus on trying to firstly make ourselves competitive and to then one day win things
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 11, 2007, 11:32:52 PM
Gold ...on one hand I feel sorry for you, to come from a shit hole of a football county as Antrim. But on the other hand I admire you, for its people like yourself who have that blind faith, which will hopefully get the reward ye deserve in football. If Antrim had more like ye...maybe...maybe
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on April 12, 2007, 10:34:52 AM
Maybe, maybe Max. Whatever you say.

Gold, Antrim are starting to produce a much better type of player than ever before, but we need to be fanatical and as passionate as the Derry, Tyrone or Armagh folk.

In Derry, over the combined weekend of FIRST round c`ship games would see, as a rough guess, 40,000 people attend and pay in through the turnstile. This attendance would increase as the competitions develop, and over a season this would be a huge financial boost to the Derry county coffers.

I ask, how many would attend the games at the same stage in Antrim?

Therby lies the answer. Cargin v St Galls semi - final would bring in a crowd of 4000 approx. Any of the top six clubs in Derry, would have a semi-final attendance of 10 - 12,000 people. If it were a double header, I would anticipate 14-16000.

Now, if you had St Pauls versus Creggan semi, you might be lucky to have 1500 present. Thats the difference, and thats no disrespect to anyone in Antrim. But we dont have the same fanaticism as other counties, or passion, and until that is in place, in clubs, schools, and county squads at all levels, then we will always be playing catch up.

Now thats not to say we couldnt develop a senior squad of 20 - 25 quality players that could do a Fermanagh of 2004, but it would be no good unless the structures are sustainable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 12, 2007, 11:26:22 AM
Would agree to a point with JJ.

We are now producing a quality calibre of player who can compete at Sigerson level etc. However on the other side of the coin an amount of this talent has come through Derry schools - McCann, Crozier etc. Brady and Madden came from Derry schools  Belfast schools are becoming increasingly competitive in the McLarnon cup though which can only be beneficial and in this years sigerson we had some of the best young players - Cunningham, Crozier etc. and not all of these boys came through Derry schools.

We need to be producing this calibre of players year in year out. I still think the standard of coaching we have may fall a wee bit short as I think sometimes you can see in our players a shortcoming with the "fundamentals". You can have certificates till you're blue in the face but I think a lot of the youth certifications are over-rated. I think the standards here can be improved.

We have a problem Derry and Tyrone haven't got so much. Realistically the primary game in Antrim is hurling - this splits attentions and leads to vast areas not playing the big ball game. The point about the attendances at championship games is a valid one however I just don't think we have the numbers in some clubs to generate huge attendances. Cargin aside there are no rural clubs in Antrim with significant playing or member population. In a lot of rural clubs the community revolves round the GAA but there just aren't enough numbers. You have an example of Creggan - Creggan is a small small place, Portglenone has a very small nationalist population, likewise Ahoghill, Ballymena and maybe to a lesser extent Rasharkin. Glenravel is small as is Moneyglass and to be honest I've touched on most of the non city clubs worth talking about in a football sense. The city clubs are another issue altogether. Derry can't really tackle the problem of city clubs. In the city it is harder to maintain interest among youth. You could play St Johns / St Pauls etc. and see a different team each year.  St Galls are different as they are now successful and "success breeds success" and all that.

We have problems in:
- not enough population
- split between football and hurling
- the city ships a lot of players to other sports and other influences.

I do think we are moving forward though but I still believe the standard of youth coaching needs to be improved.  The U21 and minor teams we have are of a much higher standard now than they were about ten years ago. That can only be good. In five or six years time I think we will have a team who would be a good bit better than division 4 status but I think we have a way to go to get there.

The championship is a one off and Derry are no world beaters either especially if you curb Paddy Bradley. Don't think we'll beat Derry but we'll give them a better game than some people think...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on April 12, 2007, 11:28:16 AM
Gold ...on one hand I feel sorry for you, to come from a shit hole of a football county as Antrim.

Max thats a bit of a rant, sure isnt your mother also from that shit hole of a football county as Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronman on April 12, 2007, 11:38:10 AM

Gold ...on one hand I feel sorry for you, to come from a shit hole of a football county as Antrim.
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Away and f**k urself max, we might not be a kerry or dublin but we're proud of who we are and dont need w**kers like you on here givin us shit like that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 12, 2007, 11:42:48 AM
firstly...


Gold ...on one hand I feel sorry for you, to come from a shit hole of a football county as Antrim.

Max thats a bit of a rant, sure isnt your mother also from that shit hole of a football county as Antrim


tee hee hee, chortle chortle, ha ha ha, guffaw guffaw, arf arf.... etc etc.


Away and f**k urself max, we might not be a kerry or dublin but we're proud of who we are and dont need w**kers like you on here givin us shit like that!

YAHO!!! G'wan the boy ye!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 12, 2007, 01:06:32 PM
Nothing like a good slag to bring the best out of ya  :D, ye fall for it every time.  ;) :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 12, 2007, 03:39:54 PM
Fall for what. You saying our county is shite?
Fall for you constantly coming on here and jibing about the standard of our football...the origin of some of our club players etc etc

That's a good one Max, you had us all hanging there and someone jumped at the bait you cleverly laid out for us???   You're a real wind up merchant...a comedian in fact.

Actually someone didn't wound up they just told you where to go - away and sort out your own mess and we'll try to sort ours.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 12, 2007, 05:13:56 PM
Ye know what Glensman, most of the time I do wind people up, because this board for most fo the time is a bit of light relief, but for whats it worth, this point I won't wind you up on. I have been watching Antrim football for years, and with St Galls being the only exception at club football...how long does it take to sort a mess out! It would be great to see Casement full all the time, and with a successful football team, thats exactly what would happen if all the talking was translated into real work at underage level, but its does not happen, your colleges are more successful at soccer than gaelic. If my wind up annoys you and others, well so be it, get off yer ass and do something about it. I have heard all this crap for years, ye have no excuses left, ye have a massive population, We in Derry have not one senior club in Derry city, we have not had a county senior of quality from the city in years, but does it stop us competing year in and out at county level.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 13, 2007, 04:39:35 PM
We're not making excuses Max at this stage...when is this little section of emails that you decided to wind us all up were we making excuses?

Debate has been had as to players missing (some America bound, some hurling, some other reasons). Debate has been had as to the merits of Jody etc.
As Antrim fans we are entitled to do that with each other - its a discussion board.
There has been no direct talk so far as I am aware of the problems in Belfast with getting the population into the GAA. So your point about the comparison with Derry is null and void. Personally I'd love to see more hurling/gaelic in derry city but you make it very hard for me to firmly believe that.

We know we're crap...some come on and lay it on the line and say we are crap and need to get structures sorted, others have a slightly more romantic view of things in that maybe we can do it...year after year. That is their prerogative.

What we don't need is some outsider coming in and slabbering about people saying "maybe this year guys" in a sarcastic fashion and saying we are from a shithole.

I am proud to be from this shithole and if we could only keep what slight momentum we have going....sigerson players, club in an all ireland final, a sensible manager, large club antrim draws etc...there might be something in it.

So there you have it...you may have wound me up. I only pray we beat you in the CShip.
I am off to drink my first beer of the evening quicker than I would've before writing this email (and get my blood pressure checked)

Have a good weekend boys - up the Antrim teams in the Ulster league.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 13, 2007, 04:55:12 PM
Good man Glensman, enjoy yer beer and have a good weekend...for what its worth I would actually like Antrim to have a successful county team, I think that it would really do all us the world of good..so no hard feelings, I just enjoy the craic...but you can expect more slagging...make no mistake ;) :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on April 14, 2007, 10:04:35 PM
Anyone know all the results from last nights u-21 games??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on April 14, 2007, 10:06:53 PM
From the Antrim Website:

St. Johns  2-6 2-8 Cargin 
Glenravel  0-9 1-6 St. Teresas 
Tir na Nog  0-7 3-16 St. Pauls 
Davitts  3-9 1-12 Creggan Kickhams 
Moneyglass  1-14 1-15 Dunloy 
St. Brigids B 4-17 0-4 Sarsfields 
Ahoghill  3-10 0-5 All Saints
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on April 15, 2007, 04:58:21 PM
Good win for Cargin. Many St. Johns players thought they were going to walk it this year. Seemed to be a good game though. It was always going to be close. I take it that the B beside St. Brigids is a mis print on the Antrim website. Anyone know the dates for the next round?? Big win also for St. Pauls who I thought were a mediocre side this year. Anyone know whether they are strong or are Tir na nog just poor?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronman on April 15, 2007, 06:06:18 PM
any results from todays division 1 and 2 games?
Title: Today's Results
Post by: aontroim on April 15, 2007, 08:53:04 PM
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I take it that the B beside St. Brigids is a mis print on the Antrim website.

No it is short for St. Brigid's Belfast - as there is also St. Brigid's Cloughmills.

Sunday 15th April 2007
Antrim Division 1 Football

Lamh Dhearg  0-9 1-11 Portglenone
Moneyglass  1-14 2-12 St. Johns
St. Galls  3-15 1-0 Dunloy
Gort Na Mona  1-6 1-6 St. Pauls
Creggan Kickhams  2-8 0-13 Cargin ;) The Mickey Moran Factor Slim? What happened?

Antrim Division 2 Football
Glenravel  3-9 1-8 Mc Dermotts
Aghagallon  1-13 3-11 All Saints
Rasharkin  1-16 1-8 Sarsfields
Rossa  1-12 1-9 St. Endas
Davitts  1-6 2-12 St. Brigids B

Antrim Division 3 Football
 
Tir na Nog  0-9 1-13 Glenavy
Lamh Dhearg 2 0-4 2-16 Ahoghill
St. Galls 2 3-1 0-9 St. Teresas
Ardoyne  3-16 3-7 St. Johns 2

Antrim Division 4 Football
 
St. Malachys  2-6 0-12 Cargin 3
Rasharkin 2 4-4 2-13 St. Agnes
Rossa 2 0-9 1-15 Eire Og

Antrim Division 5 Football

Sarsfields 2 3-13 2-13 Glenavy 2
Ardoyne 2 1-10 1-11 Davitts 2
Aghagallon 2 0-14 0-7 Antrim
O Donnells  - - Lisburn  O Donnells Not Played
St. Galls 3 2-11 1-9 St. Brigids 2

Antrim Division 6 Football

Portglenone 2 2-10 1-7 Ballycastle
Ahoghill 2 2-9 4-16 Dunloy 2
Creggan Kickhams 2 0-12 0-14 Aldergrove 2
Moneyglass 2 2-9 0-7 Tir na Nog 2
Glenravel 2 0-9 0-5 All Saints 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 16, 2007, 09:35:39 AM
And I look forward to the slagging Max.
The beers went down well.

Some result for Creggan - anyone at it? A report?
Also a great result for Portglenone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Guillem2 on April 16, 2007, 09:44:44 AM
I watched a bit of ST Malachy's draw with Cargin yesterday in Cherryvale. The game was brutal. Was that you in the Cargin nets Slim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on April 16, 2007, 05:00:43 PM
Slim. has the green machine come off the rails already,  :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 17, 2007, 08:42:43 AM
Green Machine is off the rails, Creggan are now red hot favs for the championship, get your house on them. They outplayed us all over the park and all they need to worry about now is St Galls.

Creggan for championship.

guillem- i wasnt playing in any game at the weekend. that was our 3rd team playing St Mals, we fielded 3 teams on sunday at 3pm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 17, 2007, 01:38:22 PM
Well Slim what happened... Creggan..after winning the county title last season I am sure ye did not want to lose your first game this season to the foe
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 17, 2007, 02:05:09 PM
of course we didnt want to lose, we never want to lose and yes, especially to Creggan. Perhaps we underestimated them, i dunno. they played some nice football on that wee pitch of theirs. they'll win there fair share of games and most games in Creggan. however, that said- on a bigger pitch they wont win as many imo.

no excuses though, they beat us fair and square.

and as i said before- they are now 2nd Favs for the Championship- toals have the odds up-

St Galls 6/4
Creggan 2/1
Cargin 3/1
Lamh Dhearg 9/2
St Pauls 6/1
Rasharkin 13/2
Portglenone 50/1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 17, 2007, 02:08:47 PM
Would the ports not be a better team than them
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 17, 2007, 02:12:54 PM
no.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 17, 2007, 02:14:57 PM
Have they been under achieving, because they have not been in the shake up for a while?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 17, 2007, 02:18:38 PM
its the first time they've beat us in 25 years in a senior game, i shit you not.

the bookies odds is never far away  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on April 17, 2007, 03:09:28 PM
Regarding Creggan under peforming, we were near out of existance during the earily 90's!!!
 Struggled to field teams and form a committee. We had a long hard look at the club and since then have really worked hard to build it up.

we are a proud club with a good tradition, but believe it or not slim, Cargin are the benchmark for ourselves in regards to how they they run the club in the past 20 years and with all the set backs keep coming back stronger.

Obviously we don't have the same resources as the Toome men but we still aim to be contenders.

Slim, are you BSh1tting with the odds. I can see Creggan having shorter odds than Cargin or Lamb Dearg. As Cargin are a championship team and this currentl team have ley to establish themselves as championship material
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 17, 2007, 03:18:54 PM
I would guess that Slim is bullsh1tting with the odds alright.
They don't even have all the people in the senior championship in there anyway in his list of odds.

Mickey Moran has arguably been exposed as naive in the past on bigger stages that Antrim championships but if he or Creggan think that Sunday's result was anything other than down to cobwebs being blown off by Cargin and Creggan getting a good start on their (as said before) wee pitch then they need their head sorted.

However, its good to see it being competitive with two shock results (in my opinion) portglenone beating Lamh Dearg and Creggan beating Cargin.


Shame to see Dunloy's result v St Galls - they are better than that result. I believe they have a couple of big players not playing this year.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 17, 2007, 03:31:15 PM

championships between Cargin and St.Galls, thats was obvious before a ball was even kicked!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on April 17, 2007, 04:23:40 PM
I claim copyright upon my own handle.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 17, 2007, 04:29:08 PM
Are GNM in the senior championship?

I would put them as better than Portglenone or Rasharkin.

St Brigids - well they will likely be the worst team in it.

Cregann are a good wee side who have very good underage structures in place. They may claim a few scalps this season. In Antrim there are only really two good teams about. There's no reason why Creggan can't be as good as Lamh Dhearg who in my opnion are no world beaters and are very reliant on Cunningham's accuracy from placed balls and St Paul's also. By all accounts GNM could be up around the third best team too. There are a lot of average sides in senior in Antrim at present with two exceptional ones.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 17, 2007, 05:55:26 PM
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There are a lot of average sides in senior in Antrim at present with two exceptional ones.

St Galls was one, after all they won the Ulster Cub,  who would the other one be? ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on April 18, 2007, 09:41:33 PM
Quote
There are a lot of average sides in senior in Antrim at present with two exceptional ones.

St Galls was one, after all they won the Ulster Cub,  who would the other one be? ???

I presume Cargin, although losing to creggan would seem to me that EXCEPTIONAL might be a bit strong
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 19, 2007, 08:31:04 AM
Quote
There are a lot of average sides in senior in Antrim at present with two exceptional ones.

St Galls was one, after all they won the Ulster Cub,  who would the other one be? ???

I persume Cargin, although losing to creggan would seem to me that EXCEPTIONAL might be a bit strong

what does persume mean?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on April 19, 2007, 09:39:44 AM
I do apologise for my spelling mistake, which I have since amended, but i didnt know we were back at school, Professor  >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 20, 2007, 12:22:09 PM
many people see todays irish news? st pauls applauding gort na mona onto the pitch - whats that nonsense all about?

a few good u21 games on 2nite.. an verdicts? cargin V gort should be a good game and davitts V st galls. can only c both cargin and st galls comin out on top, feel they will have too much talent for them, but they will have to play for their win as gort n davitts will put it up to them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on April 20, 2007, 02:48:00 PM
Where is the Cargin v Gorts match? Is it tonight? What time throw in?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 20, 2007, 02:54:59 PM
its tonight, its in Toome, its at 7pm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on April 20, 2007, 03:00:16 PM
All fixtures on the County Website Sports Manager (http://www.sportsmanager.ie/t3.php?report=1&reporttype=fixtures&sportid=1&club_id=&nextweek=1&countyid=1&contentsportid=1):

I see Owen Quinn is refereeig your game tonight slim.  One of the best upcoming referee's in the county in any game I have seen him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 20, 2007, 03:03:25 PM
indeed, excellent alright. good chap Owen and a good ref, even if he does make a mistake he holds his hands up.

mhic, who is 'the administrator' of the county website? and dont tell me you dont know!! you know the guy who puts a smart comment after every post in the guestbook!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on April 20, 2007, 03:06:41 PM
It's looked after by a team of people. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 20, 2007, 03:19:45 PM
A team of very "smart" people.

The sarcasm annoys me a bit. Good in certain senses and generally lighthearted but can be condescending enough.
Hope you're not one of them Mhic Easmuint...

Owen Quinn from where?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on April 20, 2007, 03:21:14 PM
I'm not on that team Glensman.
Owen Quinn from Rasharkin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 20, 2007, 03:22:50 PM
Owen from Rasharkin.

You put it very mildly there glensman, whoever writes the responses are a bundle of arseholes. the simplest of questions gets the comeback of ''CCC's'' and GAC's and ''why dont you join up and do something about it'' etc etc.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 21, 2007, 03:54:42 PM
Was putting it mildly as to cause no offence to anyone on the board here...its pretty much a great service if they toned down the sarcasm/condescending natujre of the replies it would be better.

That's not Owen Quinn as in the fell who was on the county panel a couple of years ago?

Good young referees are what we need. Have played a couple of matches this year with a few elder statesmen in the middle - pretty grim stuff. Thats not to say they don't deserve credit...I wouldn't do it if you paid me.

A few years back as I was the only senior player watching I had to ref a minor club game - one of the most traumatic experiences of my life. Completely lost it - at one point started shouting at some fella who was giving me grief from the crowd, lost the page of the wee diary I was writing the scores in and had to add them up when I eventually found it with about 10 minutes left (while paying full attention to the game of course...) and also forgot to start the watch at the start of the second half (just waited until the team winning's manager started shouting at me to finish it then added on 5 minites).
Doing a couple of things at once was never a forte of mine.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hippity hoppity wide on April 22, 2007, 02:17:41 PM
Saw that article in gaelic life about university teams in county championships? Could UUJ or QUB do that with youse? Whats the feeling on it. Worrying i'd reckon?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on April 22, 2007, 09:51:47 PM
any reviews on the u21 games? wot happened cargin slim?

goin by the result casements put it up to st galls today!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on April 23, 2007, 04:12:39 PM
Seeing as there's no results in todays Irish News, taken from Antrim website

Sunday 22nd April 2007

Antrim Division 1 Football

St. Johns  1-10 2-7 Lamh Dhearg 
Portglenone  2-8 2-10 St. Galls   
Cargin  2-14 1-6 Moneyglass 
St. Pauls  0-7 1-9 Creggan Kickhams   
Dunloy  1-9 1-11 Gort Na Mona 

Antrim Division 2 Hurling

Shane O Neills  1-18 0-5 Cushendun 

Antrim Division 2 Football

All Saints  1-9 2-9 Rasharkin 
St. Endas  1-8 0-11 St. Brigids B   
Sarsfields  0-6 3-8 Rossa   
Davitts  2-8 3-6 Glenravel 
Mc Dermotts  0-8 2-10 Aghagallon

Antrim Division 3 Football

Ahoghill  0-14 0-5 St. Galls 2 
Glenavy  1-9 1-8 Aldergrove 
St. Teresas  1-6 0-7 Tir na Nog 
St. Johns 2 5-5 0-8 Lamh Dhearg 2
Cargin 2 1-8 2-12 Ardoyne
   
Antrim Division 4 Football

Rasharkin 2 2-11 0-9 St. Malachys
 St. Endas 2 0-7 4-12 St. Agnes 
St. Pauls 2 1-11 1-10 Eire Og 
Cargin 3 1-14 2-7 Rossa 2
 
Antrim Division 5 Football

Antrim  0-7 1-7 Ardoyne 2 Antrim 
St. Galls 3 0-5 0-10 Aghagallon 2
Davitts 2 0-11 0-10 O Donnells
Glenavy 2 1-11 1-9 St. Brigids 2   
Sarsfields 2 2-18 1-10 Mitchels 
 
Antrim Division 6 Football

Portglenone 2 2-12 0-7 All Saints 2   
Aldergrove 2 - - Tir na Nog 2 Aldergrove Not Played
Creggan Kickhams 2 2-8 3-8 Glenravel 2
Dunloy 2 3-9 0-6 Moneyglass 2
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 23, 2007, 04:20:25 PM
Good win for Creggan.

Division 2 looks like it could be tight enough. The malone roaders maybe won't find they'll go through this division as handily as the other ones if they're drawing with St. Enda's.

Back to normality for Cargin. Portglenone must have gave St Galls their fill of it. Seems they've started ok.I thought they were going downhill -perhaps not.

Wouldn't have expected Ballymena to run Rasharkin so close either. Maybe the Logan's will have a big influence.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 23, 2007, 07:04:14 PM
You're awful anti the Malone roaders imtommygunn!
Rossa, Glenravel and Rasharkin should be clear favourites for Div 2 anyway.
Bit too much of a step up for the Malone roaders this year maybe.

Any reports from the Portglenone St Galls match? Milltown Row?

The Logan's must have a big influence on any team...all good footballers. Ballymena beat Portglenone there a couple of weeks agp..admittedly both might not have been at full strengthe but not bad going.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on April 27, 2007, 01:32:47 PM
My Prediction for this weekend

Creggan Kickhams   v    Dunloy   , Creggan to Win Easily
St. Johns               V   Cargin     , Cargin but it will be close
Lamh Dhearg          V   St. Galls   St Galls to win Easily
Moneyglass             V   St. Pauls  St Pauls but it will be close
Gort Na Mona         V   Portglenone  Portglenone but it will be close

Anyone got any other views
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 27, 2007, 01:53:06 PM
GNM to beat Portglenone and Creggan Dunloy to be a lot tighter than people might think...

All others I would agree with.

Moneyglass and St Pauls have a bit of history so would expect that to be close and involve a few handbags!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on April 27, 2007, 02:07:30 PM
was not at the Ports game, running three senior teams needs a big squad, i was playing for the thirds. but i heard they stole the game with a last minute goal. tough game but still seniors are without a lot of regulars.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on April 27, 2007, 03:27:34 PM
Very quiet thread recently, no scandals or nothin goin on!

Question for the city slickers! Hows your end of the Feile Peile getting on?

Were there any games played this week?




Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 27, 2007, 04:44:28 PM
I see the U21 is well under way, with the 1/4 finals on tonight. I played sevens last Thursday, first time I'd kicked a ball since the previous 1/4 final last August! Anyone know when the semis and final are scheduled for? Would love to get back in time for them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on April 30, 2007, 11:00:36 AM
My predictions were spot on last week, should've done it in the bookies, anyway this weeks games will be tougher to forecast


Dunloy                 V      Moneyglass     - Moneyglass buy a pt
Creggan Kickhams  V      Portglenone   - Creggan Buy A Couple
St. Galls               V       Gort Na Mona - St Galls easily
St. Pauls              V       St. Johns       - Draw
Cargin                  V      Lamh Dhearg  - Cargin Easily

what do yous think
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 30, 2007, 11:03:38 AM
you were correct on the result of our game but it sure wasnt close. St Johns are a poor team this year.

Antrim are very lucky not to have lost their Captain for the championship, Closie was taken away in an ambulance after a hefty (and very dirty) knock.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on April 30, 2007, 11:12:05 AM
After our game with Gort na Mona yesterday I'm wondering how Mickey Pollock never made the County U21 squad this year, he was scoring from all angles from both feet. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 30, 2007, 11:13:30 AM
St. Johns have been on the way down for a few years. They seem to be relying on the u21s and they didn't get past the first round so can't be that good.

Creggan gave Dunloy some whipping - what is going on with Dunloy?? Have they lost many from last year?

The u21s seems to be run off on a weekly basis gallsman. Could be finished by next week. They've even done replays mid week and still the winners have played on the friday night.

It's throwing up some interesting results although there isn't too much south west interest in it unfortunately! I'd expect it to be between gorts and galls although brigids with Loughrey on board might be one to watch.(Hope I'm wrong and Dunloy win though but canny see it)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on April 30, 2007, 11:18:48 AM
I heard the Close took a bad slap, I cant understand a players mentality that wants him to rite another player off, was the perpetrator red carded
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SlimShady on April 30, 2007, 01:31:23 PM
no, bizarrely Donal McKeever was the only man booked over the incident even though he never lifted a hand to anyone.

The ref never even gave a foul-it was a very nasty slap and could have been very serious.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 30, 2007, 05:25:49 PM
Anyone post up the Antrim football results from the weekend? All divisions?

I can't get access to the fixtures/results bit of the Antrim website at work.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on April 30, 2007, 05:28:40 PM
Sunday 29th April 2007
Antrim Division 1 Hurling

Ballycastle  2-6 3-7 Loughgiel Shamrocks  Ballycastle 
Portaferry  1-11 0-13 Ballycran  Portaferry 
Cushendall  3-11 2-14 Ballygalget  Cushendall 

Antrim Division 1 Football

St. Johns  0-5 0-19 Cargin  Corrigan Park 
Lamh Dhearg  0-8 1-9 St. Galls  Lamh Dhearg 
Moneyglass  0-11 3-7 St. Pauls  Moneyglass 
Gort Na Mona  0-16 4-10 Portglenone  Gort Na Mona 

Antrim Division 1 Reserve Hurling

Ballycastle  1-7 2-9 Loughgiel Shamrocks  Ballycastle 
Portaferry  4-13 1-9 Ballycran  Portaferry 

Antrim Division 2 Hurling

Armoy  0-12 0-18 Carey Faughs  Armoy 

Antrim Division 2 Football

Aghagallon  0-9 0-11 Rasharkin  Rasharkin 
St. Endas  1-9 2-4 Glenravel  St. Endas 
Sarsfields  0-8 2-9 Davitts  Sarfields 
All Saints  2-8 2-12 St. Brigids B All Saints 
Mc Dermotts  0-5 0-11 Rossa  Cherryvale 

Antrim Division 3 Football

Tir na Nog  3-14 0-8 Ahoghill  Tir na Nog 
Aldergrove  1-4 1-6 St. Teresas  Aldergrove 
Ardoyne  1-14 5-8 Glenavy  Mallusk 
St. Johns 2 2-8 2-6 Cargin 2 Corrigan Park 
Lamh Dhearg 2 0-8 0-6 St. Galls 2 Lamh Dhearg
 
Antrim Division 4 Football

Rossa 2 2-7 0-14 Rasharkin 2 Rossa 
Gort Na Mona 2 1-10 0-5 Eire Og  Gort Na Mona 
St. Endas 2 1-14 0-8 St. Malachys  St. Endas 
St. Pauls 2 0-8 0-5 Cargin 3 St. Pauls 

Antrim Division 5 Football

Aghagallon 2 0-5 1-15 Glenavy 2 Aghagallon 
Lisburn  1-4 2-13 Davitts 2 Lisburn 
Ardoyne 2 1-5 2-11 St. Galls 3 Falls Park 
St. Brigids 2 0-17 1-5 Mitchels  Falls Park
 
Antrim Division 6 Football

Ahoghill 2 - - All Saints 2 Ahoghill Not Played
Glenravel 2 0-10 1-6 Aldergrove 2 Glenravel 
Creggan Kickhams 2 0-9 0-9 Portglenone 2 Creggan Kickhams 
Tir na Nog 2 0-1 3-16 Dunloy 2 Tir na Nog 

Saturday 28th April 2007

Antrim Division 1 Football

Creggan Kickhams  2-22 1-7 Dunloy  Creggan Kickhams 

Antrim Division 6 Football

Moneyglass 2 0-11 1-11 Ballycastle  Moneyglass
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on April 30, 2007, 07:32:43 PM
Cheers Mhic Easmuint. Some result again for you boys. You're on a bit of a roll.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 01, 2007, 02:04:49 PM
i have been to a few antrim games this year and have saw paul doherty play a few games in various positions, mainly in defence.he seems nailed on 2 start against derry.then was on the ulster colleges website and saw he got a college allstar at full forward,could he possibly be on the edge of the square against derry.antrim seem to have a nippy full forward line of mcgourty,close and cunningham but no real ball winner
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 01, 2007, 02:08:34 PM
im playing my cards very close to my chest charlie, roll on the 3rd june!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 01, 2007, 02:20:41 PM
He's full back some days, wing half forward the next, centre half back the next so your guess is as good as ours!!

I'd say the chances are slim that he'll be at full forward though!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 01, 2007, 02:26:28 PM
id say delargy would find a gud position for him i wonder how he gets such gud jobs hes useless
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 01, 2007, 02:40:38 PM
what's delargy got to do with anything?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 01, 2007, 02:51:17 PM
was thinkin that myself, plus them ulster colleges allstars mean nout!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on May 01, 2007, 03:54:58 PM
You on the panel PlaywiththeWind?

The mood good in there?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 01, 2007, 04:47:17 PM
couldnt give such information away with my identity, but i can tell you that the mood in the camp is good and june 3rd cant come quick enough!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 02, 2007, 10:05:22 AM
Who won the two south Antrim feile matches semi-final matches last night. When/where is the final?

Glad to hear the mood in the camp is good, PWTW. Good luck big yin!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on May 02, 2007, 12:04:22 PM
S. Antrim Féile Final is St. John's v Davitt's - Johnnies had a midfielder sent off for striking - not sure if that rules him out of just next game or county final also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 02, 2007, 12:55:19 PM
any minor results from lastnite?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 03, 2007, 09:57:07 AM
Thanks Aontroim.

Whats the rules for striking at juvenile level. Surely a straight red for striking means a minimum of one month, regardless of when the south antrim or all county feile final is played?

Finally, is there a date set yet for the all county final, or a venue for that matter?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 04, 2007, 08:40:39 AM
Paddy Cunningham out of the game against his native county I believe.  Operation to mend broken bone in his hand not as successful as initally hoped.  Will make it that wee bit more difficult for us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on May 04, 2007, 02:26:13 PM
Does anyone think Conor Mc Gourty would be a good replacement? He's a similar type of player to Cunningham, fast and wins a lot of frees and is good at taking them too. Would he be out of his depth?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on May 04, 2007, 04:21:35 PM
a quick look at the recent posts by Shaws Road pretty much confirms his identity, some ingenious comments.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 04, 2007, 04:23:29 PM
Does anyone think Conor Mc Gourty would be a good replacement? He's a similar type of player to Cunningham, fast and wins a lot of frees and is good at taking them too. Would he be out of his depth?

Paddy is not fast, far from it! if McGourty is out of his depth, then he shouldnt be in the squad for selection
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on May 04, 2007, 04:35:22 PM
There's a small mention on the Antrim page of today;s Gaelic Life that CJ has picked up a slight knee ligament injury which will keep him out for around a month, any truth to this? Is Cunningham definitely out? Would love to see a shock here
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 04, 2007, 04:59:20 PM
For further information regarding QUB Student Sports Clubs contact either Kevin McGourty, the Vice-President for Clubs and Services, (Students' Union Tel: 90973106, su.vpcs@qub.ac.uk)  good man Kevin(shaws road)
well spotted hardstation!

Conor is fine, Hands looks to be out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on May 04, 2007, 05:43:09 PM
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Paddy is not fast, far from it! if McGourty is out of his depth, then he shouldnt be in the squad for selection
Conor is not a speed demon himself but what i meant is that when both players get a hold of the ball, they turn quickly and leave their men trailing 4 or 5 yards behind giving them space to get their shots in. Due to this and them both being reasonably lightweight they draw a lot of fouls. I think he would be a good replacement especially as he is also an exceptional free taker. Has anybody any other ideas? What about Paul Close, will he be available against Derry? If so, he's also in the running to replace Paddy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffronman on May 04, 2007, 07:39:54 PM
jesus that McGourty man really is a p***k!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on May 04, 2007, 09:00:37 PM
CJ wasn't out of his depth against Tipperary! He may be young and still a bit small, but he has more talent than the rest of the forwards in the Antrim squad combined!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on May 04, 2007, 09:06:59 PM
I don't believe he will be out of his depth as every challenge that has been laid down to him, he has responded well. However, there is a huge difference between a low division league game against Tipperary and the first round of the Ulster championship against Derry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on May 04, 2007, 09:09:17 PM
I wouldn't even dare and suggest it, nor would I try and suggest he'll be scoring 1-4 or 1-5 or whatever he got. However, what we're dealing with hear is picking the six best forwards in Antrim to represent us, and that certainly includes CJ, regardless of the opposition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on May 04, 2007, 09:14:17 PM
Most talented players, YES YES YES. But the opposition and the nature in which they play is a huge factor in championship football.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 05, 2007, 02:25:22 PM
I wouldn't even dare and suggest it, nor would I try and suggest he'll be scoring 1-4 or 1-5 or whatever he got. However, what we're dealing with hear is picking the six best forwards in Antrim to represent us, and that certainly includes CJ, regardless of the opposition.

good to have you back mc ardle

Its not about picking the best six forwards in the county, its about picking the right forwards (players) to win that game. Young mcgourty is in with a strong chance of starting. Has he not given any clues away to you Gallsman?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on May 05, 2007, 02:44:36 PM
From the Antrim website,
Dunloy  0-10 1-9 Gort Na Mona  Glenavy Extra Time if Reqd.
St. Brigids B 2-11 1-14 St. Galls  Corrigan Park Extra Time if Reqd.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on May 05, 2007, 03:10:17 PM
jesus that McGourty man really is a p***k!

One of the biggest you will meet, and that is from a few of the St Galls lads......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 05, 2007, 03:12:51 PM

St. Brigids B 2-11 1-14 St. Galls  Corrigan Park Extra Time if Reqd.


did this game go to extra time? st brigids must have played well? any reports?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on May 05, 2007, 03:19:51 PM
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Dunloy  0-10 1-9 Gort Na Mona  Glenavy Extra Time if Reqd.
St. Brigids B 2-11 1-14 St. Galls  Corrigan Park Extra Time if Reqd
Was wondering that myself but I'm taking it that this is the final score after extra time. Therefore a replay should be on Wednesday night. This isn't a big suprise because St. Bridgets have a strong team very capable of beating St. Galls. I'm suprised that the other game was so close though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: DownFanatic on May 05, 2007, 03:36:30 PM
Just out of interest. How many Belfast teams are there playing football In Antrim and what areas are they from? I know St Brigids are Malone Road, St Malachy's are Lower Ormeau/Short Strand and Eire Og are Derriaghy. What about the rest?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on May 05, 2007, 03:53:34 PM
Ardoyne Kickhams - Speaks for itself
Cardinal O'Donnell's - W Belfast/ Whiterock
Eire Óg
Gort na Mona -  W Belfast/ Turf Lodge
Henry Joy McCracken's - W Belfast i think
John Mitchel's - W Belfast
Lámh Dhearg Hannahstown/ W Belfast
Michael Davitt's -   Lower  Falls
Michael Dwyer's  - Grovenor Road/ Falls
Na Fuiseoige - Twinbrook
O'Donovan Rossa - W Belfast/ Falls/ Atown
Patrick Pearse's  New lodge area
Patrick Sarsfield's  W Belfast/ Lenadoon/ Atown
Sean McDermott's  Lower Falls
St. Agnes'  W Belfast/ Andersonstown
St. Brigid's, Belfast
St. Enda's
St. Gall's  W Belfast/ Falls
St. John's  W/ Belfast/ Whiterock/Falls
St. Malachy's
St. Paul's  W Belfast/ Lenadoon/ Atown
St. Teresa's  W Belfast/ Glen Road/ Atown
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 05, 2007, 03:59:37 PM
beat me to it hardstation.

maybe this can help you out too http://maps.google.com/maps?q=http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/download.php?Number=779782&t=k&om=1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on May 06, 2007, 01:37:10 AM
I wouldn't even dare and suggest it, nor would I try and suggest he'll be scoring 1-4 or 1-5 or whatever he got. However, what we're dealing with hear is picking the six best forwards in Antrim to represent us, and that certainly includes CJ, regardless of the opposition.

good to have you back mc ardle

Its not about picking the best six forwards in the county, its about picking the right forwards (players) to win that game. Young mcgourty is in with a strong chance of starting. Has he not given any clues away to you Gallsman?

I'm studying in Dublin and a bit out of the loop (and condition!) at this stage!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 06, 2007, 06:23:30 PM
Creggan Kickhams  0-9 0-8 Portglenone   
St. Galls  - - Gort Na Mona  St. Galls         Not Played
St. Pauls  2-11 1-6 St. Johns 
Cargin  - - Lamh Dhearg  Cargin               Not Played

Glenravel  1-5 0-5 Aghagallon
Sarsfields  0-8 1-6 St. Brigids B   
Rossa  0-7 1-6 All Saints   
Davitts  1-6 1-11 St. Endas   

Aldergrove  3-10 1-5 Ahoghill   
Glenavy  0-14 0-10 St. Johns 2 
St. Teresas  0-5 0-4 Ardoyne   
St. Galls 2 0-6 0-12 Tir na Nog   
Cargin 2 1-13 0-7 Lamh Dhearg 2


why were 2 matches not played? especially when their reserve teams played?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on May 07, 2007, 07:59:02 PM
Maybe the 2 matches wernt played due to the monsoon

Im sure the monsoon beat a few teams yesterday!

Creggan are stil goin well in div 1?

any reports on games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 08, 2007, 12:56:55 PM
the "monsoon" didnt effect the reserve games?!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 08, 2007, 01:15:46 PM
i hear the footballers are to play London this weekend, somewhere in the city. anyone confirm this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tbrick18 on May 08, 2007, 01:16:08 PM
Is it true Joe Brolly is helping out with the Antrim senior team?
If so what do you Antrim boys think of it? Do you think he brings anything useful to the table?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on May 08, 2007, 02:01:11 PM
Playwiththewind..are you sure it's not the hurlers against London inthe Ulster Championship?? Maybe I'm wrong
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 08, 2007, 02:06:52 PM
i think both codes might be playing.. goin by what i heard!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 14, 2007, 02:20:30 PM
antrim did play london this weekend in the football

team was:
1.mcgreevy
2.brady
3.mc veigh
4. oboyle
5.mcgoldrick
6. croizer
7. carlin
8.martin
9.mccann
10.gallagher
11.niblock
12.p.close
13.rae
14.mcgourty
15.c.close

finally score was 0.17 to 0.9
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 14, 2007, 03:04:01 PM
Interesting team - who would be to come back onto that team yet?

Very young half back line - I assume Carlin is the St Paul's Carlin? We could also do with a bit more in the half forward line - suppose it all depends on who's left to come into the team.

Good to see young O'Boyle back though - probably the best man marker in the county from what I can see.

I see someone else had a seperate post - Cargin 0-17 St Pauls 0-1 . That's an awful hammering. Still I suppose at least St Pauls kept a clean sheet...

Very young tem in general but it's good to build for the future.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 14, 2007, 04:55:00 PM
Anyone up at the feile final yesterday at Gort Na Nona, between Davitts and Sean Stinsons? Both teams were very highly rated, with Davitts apparently beating St Galls in the league by 20 points, and as Belfast champions, were well fancied. Sean Stinsons unbeaten in their age group since under ten, all county winners two years ago at under twelve.

Great advertisement for under age football in Antrim. Davitts well in control first fifteen minutes, but missed a lot of good scoring chances. Stinsons had four scoring chances in the first half, and scored 2.02. Davits had only managed 0.05. How Stinsons were ahead at half time was a near miracle, but with the wind, and down hill in the second half there was only going to be one winner.

Stinsons scored 1.07 to 0.01 in the second period to win in the end by 3.09 to 0.06, twelve points not a fair reflection in a great game between two excellent sides. Stinsons unbeaten run continues for another while!

Good luck to Stinsons in the last weekend of June, at the feile to be held in Carrick on Shannon, Co Leitrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 14, 2007, 04:56:48 PM
Interesting team - who would be to come back onto that team yet?

Very young half back line - I assume Carlin is the St Paul's Carlin? We could also do with a bit more in the half forward line - suppose it all depends on who's left to come into the team.

oboyle lasted 10mins, not to sure what happened him.
yes, liam carlin from st paul, big lad with huge commitment not sure about his football ability for county level.

cunnigham, bell, brady, loughray, scullion, quinn and more are all to come into that team. im sure atleast 3 of them 6 will start come 3rd june.
still not convinced about niblock.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 14, 2007, 05:19:12 PM
That's not so bad then. A good few of those could strengthen up the half forward line.

To be honest I wouldn't put Kevin Niblock in St Galls best 15 never mind Antrim's.

Cunningham, Quinn, Brady,Scullion and I'd say maybe Loughrey should start in the c'ship which is a brave few.

Haven't seen much of Carlin so not sure what he's like but looking at that team the biggest changes I would see(or would like to see) would be to HB and HF lines.

Where's Doherty from Rasharkin at? He still on the panel?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 14, 2007, 05:36:50 PM
I see Owen Quinn is the ref. for the u21 football final.

Fair play - must be doing well for someone so young.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 14, 2007, 05:49:28 PM
doherty got 13 stitches to aneye wound in a club game recently
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 15, 2007, 10:13:20 AM
Reference Owen Quinn. Definitely the best referee I have seen for a long time. Common sense approach and liked by the players as well. Has a big future in refereeing if he sticks at it. Lets the game flow, and dosent try to be the centre of attention.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 15, 2007, 12:31:08 PM
doc was playin a club game against mcdermotts and got a clip round the eye

u21 final- friday nite 7pm at casmement??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 15, 2007, 01:00:24 PM
Wonder will the u-21 management be at the u-21 final, and when its over, will they be big enough to turn round and say that they seriously cocked up over their rating of Michael Pollock.

Saw the guy in a senior league game a few weeks ago, and he looked in a different class, despite quite a few recent past and present county players. How the fcuk he was overlooked by Mister O`Pray and co is beyond me, and quite a few others I have to say.

Just wonder will he have the balls to own up to a serious misjudgement. And to think that some of last years management didnt rate Crozier either, it really makes you think that some selectors really do have their own (club) agendas.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on May 16, 2007, 12:16:04 AM
Wonder will the u-21 management be at the u-21 final, and when its over, will they be big enough to turn round and say that they seriously cocked up over their rating of Michael Pollock.

Saw the guy in a senior league game a few weeks ago, and he looked in a different class, despite quite a few recent past and present county players. How the fcuk he was overlooked by Mister O`Pray and co is beyond me, and quite a few others I have to say.

Just wonder will he have the balls to own up to a serious misjudgement. And to think that some of last years management didnt rate Crozier either, it really makes you think that some selectors really do have their own (club) agendas.



I think you'll find that Crozier was indeed very highly rated. As he was still a minor, they had first call on him, and O'Prey had him play a meaningless league game instead of releasing him for the Tyrone match.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on May 16, 2007, 12:24:31 AM
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O'Prey had him play a meaningless league game instead of releasing him for the Tyrone match.
Which game was this?
Pollock must have been gutted. He wasn't even picked for the bench. To think of the players he had (especially from his own club) instead of Pollock is laughable. What was he at?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on May 16, 2007, 09:22:24 AM
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O'Prey had him play a meaningless league game instead of releasing him for the Tyrone match.
Which game was this?
Pollock must have been gutted. He wasn't even picked for the bench. To think of the players he had (especially from his own club) instead of Pollock is laughable. What was he at?

I don't know exactly who the opposition were, but it was same game that CJ missed due to La Salle playing in the All-Ireland B Final against Tubbercurry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 16, 2007, 10:11:34 AM
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O'Prey had him play a meaningless league game instead of releasing him for the Tyrone match.
Which game was this?
Pollock must have been gutted. He wasn't even picked for the bench. To think of the players he had (especially from his own club) instead of Pollock is laughable. What was he at?

I don't know exactly who the opposition were, but it was same game that CJ missed due to La Salle playing in the All-Ireland B Final against Tubbercurry.

Crozier and McGourty played for Antrim minors in a whack-fuckery Ulster Minor league game against Derry, when they should have been playing against Tyrone in the under-21 championship. 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 16, 2007, 11:07:18 AM
Sam 2, nearly, but not true. CJ played for La Salle in the All-Ireland B colleges semi-final, and scored 4-6. He chose to play for the school, and that was his call. There was a big push at La Salle for a national title, but they ended up well beaten in the final!

The Crozier thing well debated here, although the whole truth has never surfaced.

There were many participants to the sorry saga, and unfortunately it involved a sad tale of events that has never surfaced. I could write a book about it, but its over a year ago, and is old news now. Except to say that in-explicable bungling at the highest level, pure nepotism, egotism, and worst of all, sheer non rating of a player as good as Crozier, resulted in the throwing away of a great chance to win an all-Ireland football title.

Imagine a forward line with Crozier at 12, and either CJ or Pollock at 15. Instead we got Gribbon(St Galls) and Meade(St Johns).
Gribbon and Meade both taken off early in the game!

Less than 6 months later, CJ and Crozier make senior county debuts. Meade and Gribbon struggle to make their club teams!

Point made.

No big deal, sure that happens all the time in Antrim. NOT.

(Dont get me started)



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 16, 2007, 12:18:49 PM
Sam 2, nearly, but not true. CJ played for La Salle in the All-Ireland B colleges semi-final, and scored 4-6. He chose to play for the school, and that was his call. There was a big push at La Salle for a national title, but they ended up well beaten in the final!

The Crozier thing well debated here, although the whole truth has never surfaced.

There were many participants to the sorry saga, and unfortunately it involved a sad tale of events that has never surfaced. I could write a book about it, but its over a year ago, and is old news now. Except to say that in-explicable bungling at the highest level, pure nepotism, egotism, and worst of all, sheer non rating of a player as good as Crozier, resulted in the throwing away of a great chance to win an all-Ireland football title.

Imagine a forward line with Crozier at 12, and either CJ or Pollock at 15. Instead we got Gribbon(St Galls) and Meade(St Johns).
Gribbon and Meade both taken off early in the game!

Less than 6 months later, CJ and Crozier make senior county debuts. Meade and Gribbon struggle to make their club teams!

Point made.

No big deal, sure that happens all the time in Antrim. NOT.

(Dont get me started)





Apologies, you're right.  No real choice between school and county for McGourty, though he wouldn't have been allowed to play (by the minor management) regardless of availability.

Both Crozier and Pollock started in the first round against Fermanagh, but were replaced by Meade and Conor McCartan during that game.  At least one of those two is the worst inter-county footballer I have ever seen.  That team certainly had the best chance of an All-Ireland for Antrim in recent times but other things intervened.

My opinions on this are well known - as you say, don't get me started.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on May 16, 2007, 12:33:52 PM
hi johnjoe, ur surname wudnt be mcdoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowell, wud it be ye boy ye.

i know you's in portglenyin are behind the times, i take it u have just recently watched borat, pause,  NOT! ;D

sean stinkins had a good win on sunday in the feile, all the best in all-irelands.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 16, 2007, 01:21:39 PM
By all accounts your man Pollock is almost unmarkable this year though I've not seen him. The u21 setup this year really was proved to be a bit of a joke when the team with the a good bulk the squad got dumped out in the preliminary.I think there were players from last year, good players, who weren't played this year too.

Still - hopefully someone will notice this and they'll not get another chance.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 16, 2007, 02:00:11 PM

going by what i heard, Pollock didnt give his all in training as he thught he was a sure starter. also, ive heard he's a bit greedy!
but thats all over with now. app the minors are gettin on rightly?

who will manage the u21's next yr? it would be the year were o'prey can pick from both minor squards he took, will he get the job?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 16, 2007, 03:42:10 PM
Apparently they beat Galway by 5 points in a friendly.

Not sure who their stars are but I think most of the team would be from Belfast - I think one of the schools,can't mind which, did well in the McLarnon. I know of one Dunloy and one Stinsons too.

Who knows about management. Maybe your man O'Prey will be able to take that minor team right through. Two have already even made it into senior.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 16, 2007, 11:55:57 PM
Any truth in the rumour that Yash Armstrong of Rossa fame is playing for their senior team, at the age of 51?

I wouldn't be surprised.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on May 17, 2007, 12:02:58 AM
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Any truth in the rumour that Yash Armstrong of Rossa fame is playing for their senior team, at the age of 51?

I wouldn't be surprised.
What doesn't surprise you ONeill? Rossa are that poor or that Yash has rekindled that flame and skill that led them to championship glory of 1991?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 17, 2007, 10:15:03 AM
Going by a small snippet in todays Irish News, our under 16`s did well at a recent inter county tournament, losing to Armagh by one point, and beating Tyrone, Derry, and Fermanagh.

Well done to all concerned.I`ve seen a few under age games recently, and I can say for certain there is a much, much better type of young player coming through the system. the skill levels are much higher too.

If Antrim can beat Derry, it would give the county a massive lift. In fact, if our minors beat Derry, I might even be persuaded to think that O Prey has something about him, but at the minute the jury is still out!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 17, 2007, 10:32:20 AM
Any truth in the rumour that Yash Armstrong of Rossa fame is playing for their senior team, at the age of 51?

I wouldn't be surprised.

he looks as young as you Shane
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on May 17, 2007, 02:46:07 PM
Anyone know if there are senior football matches next Wednesday as in the 23rd?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 17, 2007, 02:56:51 PM
It's hurling on next wednesday. The football seems to be on this weekend - mostly on Sunday.

Check out the county web-site fixtures.

http://antrim.gaa.ie (http://antrim.gaa.ie)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on May 17, 2007, 03:51:47 PM
That round of hurling fixtures was in there before the Ulster Hurling Final was moved to next weekend - i can see these fixtures being pulled - well Div 1 anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on May 17, 2007, 03:55:47 PM
Div 1 and 2 Football is on this saturady and then a 3 week gap to 10th June
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on May 17, 2007, 06:01:16 PM
Cheers NICSSA...I may come on here asking for fixtures during work time...sorry. I can get the antrim website but the fixtures section is banned for some reason.

Good result for you boys v Rasharkin NICSSA...things coming together for you guys? Rasharkin play badly?

Real shame about Paul Doc's injury - any news on whether he'll be back for the county.
Must have been some dirty fecker for McDermotts to do that to Paul Doc...civil fella.
The ignorance of some people gets to me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on May 18, 2007, 08:30:22 AM
Threw it away Glensman, it's probably the best we've played all year. All Rasharkins scores came from frees , their last one with the last kick of the game. Div 2 is a close league at present with only 2 points between the top 5 teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on May 18, 2007, 09:48:05 AM
NICCSA maybe if you's learnt how to tackle properly you wudnt give away as many frees! ::) ;)

maybe u shud be playing in defence! ;)

every time rasharkin got near the posts you's chopped them down, only saying lak.

and dont come with the ref was crap because he was as bad for both teams.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 18, 2007, 10:30:35 AM
Went into our official county website just there, for the first time in a while, for a browse.

The main action seems to feature around the corporate raceday, and the Saffron Sweep Draw.

I cant believe that seven or eight clubs have made no contribution at all to the Saffron Sweep. Most clubs will finish up in the region of 20 - 40 tickets sold, and this represents some kind of reasonable/decent effort.

The Cushendun contribution of 173 sales is a tremendous achievement for such a small parish, and shows what can be done.

The clubs with no sales at all sicken the life out of me. There are no excuses at all for this, so if one of these is your club, dont even try to pass it off as anything less than a disgrace.

There is an onus on us all to improve our national standing and put some pride back into our county. This is the first venture of its kind, for many years, so get out and get your tickets sold. Stop the rot.

I know it wont happen, but clubs with less than a certain quota sold, say 10 minimum, should not be allowed to compete in next years c`ships, or some penalty that reflects their total disrespect for officialdom.

Any other opinions on this?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on May 18, 2007, 11:07:58 AM
I agree that more should be done, however it is not the business of the county board to be telling people exactly who has sold what. That will simply lead to bickering, name calling and downright idiotic ideas likr the one mentioned above.

No disrespect intended at all johnhoe, I just think it's lunacy to be threatening people with championship expulsion based on ticket sales. Completely against the ethos of the GAA.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on May 18, 2007, 11:14:45 AM
Sorry Johnjoe but that is a stupid suggestion. Barring clubs from the Championship for not selling tickets...come on.

It is a super initiative and some clubs have clearly embraced it more than others but to stop championship for it?!
Where clubs have had gala dinners, been fundraising solid for the last number of years it is sometimes wise to take a step back. How that shows a TOTAL DISRESPECT FOR OFFICIALDOM I'm not sure.

A stern call from the county chairman would suffice. Regardless of the merits of him in his role a call from him might see some action being started. Not much point in a club getting on the wrong side of him.

Rewards for the most sales are fair enough I reckon.

What else "sickens the life" out of you then? Just so that I know what we are dealing with.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on May 18, 2007, 11:15:48 AM
I think the ticket sales look poor, they were 750-800 sales reported to the county board last week, and with a target of 2000 sales it doesnt look too rosey. heres hoping alot of sales simply havent been reported to the county board, and there is a big push in the coming 2wks and hopefully the draw will end in a sucess.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 18, 2007, 11:37:02 AM
Gallsman, Im all for name and shame. Personally I think the clubs who have treated this major fundraising initiative with total disrespect should be hung out to dry.

Examine the background.

A new county chairman goes about the business of bringing Co Antrim Gaa into 21st century. He instigates a full review of what Antrim is doing wrong. Every aspect of County activity is included, finance, dev squads, schools, proper coaching, cultural, clubs, etc,etc. It is all inclusive. Its everyones big opportunity to agree a roadmap/business plan for the future.

The end result (the Antrim Strategic Plan) is the best piece of collective administrative work probably ever carried out. It is a roadmap designed to put Antrim GAA on the map. At its launch, Michael Greenan and Nuicky Brennan describe it as the best of its kind.

The plan calls out for greater finance to put together the first phase of the strategy - the short term priorities. We are on our way!!!

All it requires is a committment from ALL clubs, to do a BIT each( sell 20 tickets minimum). Some clube exceed this, embrace it fully, get stuck into making Antrim better.  Other clubs give it the one fingered salute!!!

The way I see it is this is the best chance we are ever going to get, to put our house in order. If Mc Sparran loses his motivation, his drive, as so many have before him, due to APATHY FROM CLUBS, then we will never see an All - Ireland title in our lifetime. Thats my honest assessment, and I firmly believe it.

If this initiative fails, who is going to take on the mantle of delivering the next one? We must not fall at the first fence.

Wouldnt it be a real pity if the poor clubs were exposed. My arse!

Time for some clubs to get their finger out, thats what I say. We`ve been hearing the excuses for too long.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on May 18, 2007, 11:53:06 AM
John Joe...for once I am in total agreement with ye...if the grass roots cannot support what is clearly a new drive to improve Antrims where withall...they need bad manners. Put up or put out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on May 18, 2007, 11:57:17 AM
Fair enough, you're entitled to your opinion. However, from my own point of view, considering the amount of petty pickering that goes on between almost every club in the Antrim scene, naming and shaming is not the way forward. It simply reveals the number of sales, not the effort on the clubs' behalf to encourage those sales.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 18, 2007, 12:02:56 PM
Rather than penalise the clubs who sell none, surely some sort of incentive would work much better.  For example it clubs knew that anything from £20 - £50 for each ticket sold was going back into their coffers, then sales would certainly increase. Or if there was a reward for the clubs selling the laregst number of tickets per club member this might help.

I also heard of one club who employed a person to sell enough tickets to cover all the prizes and his commission with club members also selling tickets. If he didn't hit the target, he didn't get the money - the club were guaranteed not to lose any money.


The end result (the Antrim Strategic Plan) is the best piece of collective administrative work probably ever carried out. It is a roadmap designed to put Antrim GAA on the map. At its launch, Michael Greenan and Nuicky Brennan describe it as the best of its kind.
And Greenan afer all, though not always right, is seldom wrong.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: gallsman on May 18, 2007, 12:04:16 PM
Was just readind the totals there, and there's a c**k up in the spreadsheet. Excel even says the formula is inconsistent. Who would be responsible for drawing up these things?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on May 18, 2007, 12:11:39 PM
I agree that more should be done, however it is not the business of the county board to be telling people exactly who has sold what. That will simply lead to bickering, name calling and downright idiotic ideas likr the one mentioned above.

I think it is EXACTLY the county board's business to provide information on ticket sales gallsman - I for one really doubt that the info is currently accurate and am sure the larger clubs will indeed have decent figures of sales at the end, but it is a catalyst for the ordinary club member to see what is or isn't happening in their club and do something about it.  I am aware of members who weren't even told by their club tickets were available from clubs and were only informed by seeing for themselves the stark reality of the figures on the website - showeing exactly the effort some clubs are going to in promoting this.

One example i know of a severe conflict of interest is St. Comgall's Antrim - they are currently selling £20 tickets for their own development draw around the county and further afield, but they can still manage to sell sweep tickets at the same time - so really there should be no excuse for other clubs.

Have also heard now that All-Ireland ticket allocation may be based on Sweep ticket sales! Ballsy if they go through with it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 18, 2007, 12:42:15 PM
Some interesting views. Ok, I know its totally unrealistic to throw clubs out of c`ships, and better to add incentives to sell v punishments for not. quite like the idea of with-holding all ireland finals tickets for clubs who dont hit their quotas, per rata, etc.

I was told Claudy Gac, a small club in North Derry, sold 80 tables for their corporate raceday, AND 2000 tickets for their own club draw at £100 each.

Kind of puts it into perspective, dosent it!



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 18, 2007, 01:24:49 PM
I think Sam's idea of giving a small percentage of the ticket sale to the clubs is an excellent one.

A lot of it I think is down to success as well. I think if, for example, we had a draw in 1989 we would have sold significantly more tickets than we do now. If you did a draw like this in Armagh / Tyrone at the minute you would rake in the money. However if you had done it in Armagh 10 years ago it would not have been remotely as successful. Those people think like if I give this money it'll help us win Sam again. With Antrim at the minute obviously the mindset is different and it's win a game...

The name and shame I think is an excellent idea though. It's important everyone puts the effort in. I would go one step further and show the number of members per club and have a "ratio"/percentage or something of that effect. Numbers are all well and good but you would expect larger clubs to sell larger amounts etc.

This draw is a great idea and an excellent starting point. I think seeing benefit is something that is maybe a problem for a lot of people. I have no doubt that this money will be put to good use. However like I say a lot of people's mentality is what will this get me? Will we win the all ireland? It's a good starting point and such things will get better in time bu we also need time for people to buy into it. A wee bit of money to clubs would perhaps give people "visible" benefit which might help. It's hard to know. It's one which has provoked a lot of debate and most people are quite negative which is unfortunate.

I would also question Max about whether he thinks such a draw would be a huge success in Derry? I don't know if it would...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd on May 18, 2007, 09:40:11 PM
How did Under 21 final go tonight?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on May 19, 2007, 02:46:09 AM
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How did Under 21 final go tonight?
It went, but no more.
Gort na Mona 0 - 10
St. Galls 0 - 8
First of all, Seamy O Prey needs a bucket to be sick into.
A poor game of football with both sides making mistake after mistake. The better team won on the night but certainly did not impress. Gort na Mona were miles ahead in terms of ability but were very stupid in their play. Their passing (especially handpassing) was the worst I have ever witnessed. They couldn't hold on to the ball and when one of their men managed to, he then handpassed the ball 5 yards over his target's head or 10 feet in the air. They also played the ball amongst themselves far too tightly.
St. Galls were poor. They seemed to have more intelligance than their opponents but that's were it ended. Their defence played quite well but their forward line were (and I'm sorry to be harsh) sh**e. Conor Mc Gourty couldn't win a ball for the life of him and the rest were only there to make up the numbers (however Michael Mc Mullan and Sean O Hara scored a couple of nice points). Gort na Mona keeper Joe Smyth was only there to take the kickouts.
Gort na Mona were poor at working the ball up to the forward line but when they managed to, Michael Pollock was leathal. He took some lovely points off both feet. Gort na Mona had two very good goal chances that just shaved the crossbar.
As far as Mc Gourty vs Pollock was concerned, a 1st round knockout.
Mc Gourty from play, 1/10. His man (I don't know who he is but "PC" I heard shouted) got the better of him all night and kept him scoreless from play. Mc Gourty won  very little ball.
Mc Gourty from frees/50s, 6/10, scored 4 points but missed a few handy ones that were important.
Pollock from play, 8/10. He won almost every ball played to him and scored some wonderful points as I said off both feet. It almost turned into the Michael Pollock show only that St. Galls started to win the ball around midfield a lot more about 3/4 way through the game.
Pollock from frees. 9/10 Unlucky not to get 10 but missed two near the end. However he wasn't the only freetaker for Gort na Mona (Mc Gourty took them from both sides for St. Galls) and another Gort na Mona lad struck over some brilliant frees.
Best for Gort na Mona;
Michael Pollock. Outclassed the lot and IMHO, he is unmarkable at this level.
Conor Fegan. Won a serious amount of ball in midfield.
PC (name unknown) was superb. Out performed one of the best footballers in the county.
Best for St. Galls (really hard to pick);
Aodhan Gribben. Went for every ball like his life depended on it and his distribution was good.
Peter Owens. Same as above but tended to break the ball for his team mates rather than win it himself.
Both of the St. Galls lads above are still very young and both at some time in the game marked Pollock and did well to stop him scoring more.
No one else really did themselves justice.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PrivatePile on May 19, 2007, 11:05:32 AM
Is the CJ hype machine starting to die down? i watched him the other night hurling against Glenariffe and he was atrocious, his mouth was pretty active though, that aspect has got him in trouble before...Reference- Gavin Bell !!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 21, 2007, 11:41:14 AM
No matter what O Prey ever does with the county, he will always be associated with the Crozier and Pollock episodes. Oh yes, and the total game plan(no plan B) in last years Ulster minor final, around a player who had a serious chest infection, couldnt run, got sick, won a few balls and kicked them wide,  didnt play ball to man in much better position three times, got sick again, gets taken off, his side make a comeback, CJ (planA) gets thrown back in again last fifteen, and team end up with nothing except a ten point defeat, and a harsh lesson that you dont build your dreams around one player, especially one who should be lying at home in his bed.

Grim stuff indeed.

Now the man might be a good organiser, and a businessman etc, but what can ANYONE tell me is/was his football CV.
Who did he play for, coach, what level coaching(level 2). Does he know a good footballer if he sees one. Has he any tactical awareness, etc. Maybe I have a slanted view, but that has been shaped by last years Croke park fiasco,(yes it was a good achievement to get there) and the Crozier and Pollock episodes.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 21, 2007, 03:36:07 PM
less than 2weeks to go.....

any predictions on team line-out? any news?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on May 21, 2007, 04:00:22 PM
less than 2weeks to go.....

any predictions on team line-out? any news?

pwtw i thought you were fairly close to the setup - should the news not be coming from yourself?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 21, 2007, 04:05:46 PM
im just trying to find out what people think!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 21, 2007, 05:14:26 PM
I think(and hope) that this match will be a lot tighter than a lot of people reckon. Hopefully Mr. Brolly will be giving some good advice.

Paddy "Hands" Cunningham should be back for Antrim by all accounts which would be a big boost especially with the unavailabilty of Kevin McGuckin. I would also anticipate a few younger boys to start - Loughrey, Crozier and even possibly young O'Boyle at corner back. I wonder who'll be full back. Would McVeigh fit the bill?

Hopefully Joe Quinn will be in there and give some physical presence. Close and Cunningham in the forward line are a bit small so I'm hopefully they'll have a big man in there to help them out and like other people have alluded to before I'd not have Kevin Niblock near the team... McGourty as an impact sub. too.

Derry , without Bradley, should lack real potency in attack. If Muldoon can be denied goal chances in there I don't think they have forwards capable of hitting 3/4 points in a game and if they can stifle Gilligan they should cut off any good supply. Have yet to see Lynch do anything of real merit at intercounty level - hopefully I won't eat those words!

Optimistically - Antrim by two...



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 22, 2007, 05:10:07 PM
any thoughts on the starting line-up?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: southderryman on May 22, 2007, 06:00:19 PM

just dropping in to see your opinions on the forthcoming championship game.


Derry , without Bradley, should lack real potency in attack. If Muldoon can be denied goal chances in there I don't think they have forwards capable of hitting 3/4 points in a game and if they can stifle Gilligan they should cut off any good supply. Have yet to see Lynch do anything of real merit at intercounty level - hopefully I won't eat those words!

Optimistically - Antrim by two...


a lot of people are of the same impression that derry struggle for scores without PB. while admittedly he'll be missed, i do feel that derry sometimes play better without him in the side. it gives the other forwards a better chance to sparkle, because certainly in the last few years the only game plan has been get the ball into bradley at all cost. the other forwards rarely see the ball and when they do are under alot more pressure to do something with it.

i feel that with muldoon gilligan and devlin we have the players to get enough scores to suffice. lynch should also weigh in with a few and depending if they are selected james conway and barry mc goldrick are usually good for a couple of points.

anyways all the best and here's hoping for a decent game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 30, 2007, 09:55:57 AM
Going by the Derry thread, Paddy Bradley looks to have won his appeal, and is technically available to play against us.

Question is will P. Crozier pick him, and after all he has been through, will PB return to the Derry set up this year?

Any word out there on our team yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: girt_giggler on May 30, 2007, 10:29:27 AM
he said himself on the championship on bbc last night that he hasn't been training with the county for couple of weeks & if he won the appeal he wouldnt be expecting a start against antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on May 30, 2007, 10:38:04 AM
i was told the team last night by a starter this sunday
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on May 30, 2007, 10:40:06 AM
so was i.

a major surprise don't you think pwtw?! it was for me anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: loughshore lad on May 30, 2007, 10:43:21 AM
I see a lot of chat that two young cargin players will play for Antrim in defence on sunday - Justin Crozier and Kevin O'Boyle.
Do you reckon they will start slim? Do you think they are up to that level? Cant say I ever saw O'Boyle play although I read he got cargin player of the season last season? Crozier is a class act saw him play a few games last year - he reminds me of Henry Downey the way he carries the game to the oppposition.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on May 30, 2007, 10:46:26 AM
Crozier is a class act, he's starting alright. I suppose you're going to try and claim him a Tyrone man?!  :P

kevin has had a few injuries since the U21 final in December, but he'd fit into corner back without a problem. very tidy player.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: loughshore lad on May 30, 2007, 10:49:08 AM
Crozier is a class act, he's starting alright. I suppose you're going to try and claim him a Tyrone man?!  :P


I dont think you can deny he is from Tyrone stock - is his father not from the Moortown??  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on May 30, 2007, 10:52:27 AM
indeed, he's a Moortown man alright. if he plyed his Trade in Tyrone he'd start for you as well.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: loughshore lad on May 30, 2007, 11:06:12 AM
indeed, he's a Moortown man alright. if he plyed his Trade in Tyrone he'd start for you as well.

He possibly would feature alright from what I have saw he looks the business.
I hope Antrim do the business on Sunday and take Derry - no other county rises the same sense of hatred in me than the oak leafers, cant stand them.
There will be plenty of Tyrone men on show anyway between Crozier and the Ballinderry contingent!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on May 30, 2007, 03:13:01 PM
Slim
about O'Boyle, is there a real mean streak in Kevin. I didn't think there was. CB at county level need to have that nasty side to there game and I always though of him as an out and out footballer, great on the ball and VG positional sense and generally a classy footballer. I though that he would be more suited to a WHB role, napping up breaking balls and playing good balls into the forwards. What are your views
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on May 30, 2007, 03:19:41 PM
i disagree with you saying that a mean streak is needed, to do what? knock Mickey Lindens teeth down his throat with an assault?!

CJ McGourty came on for St Galls in the c'ship last year against us at corner forward, after scoring a clinking point O'Boyle moved onto him and had him in his pocket that day. He played at CHB for our u21's and done very well, I'd still prefer him in the corner though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on May 30, 2007, 03:28:34 PM
Tony Scullion won four All stars an All Ireland 3 natioanl Leagues and 6 Railway Cups. He was an outstanding corner back...he never left a hnad on you, he attacked the ball all the time with pace and postional play. Dont get me wrong, he was as tough as nails, but football was the game for him.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on May 30, 2007, 03:41:41 PM
Fair point Maximus Marillius about Scullion, but at the same time I played against him a few times and when he hit you in a tackle, he didn't hold back. Fair hit but def tough.
 Slim I don't mean that he has to know somebodys teeth out, but at a county level will he be able to put in those hard tackles.
My opion of Kevin was when he was playing against us at U-16-minor level, and in my view was the outstanding player on the pitch most times we met. Crozier was also very good, but O'Bolye had that extra bit of class about him at that age. He was always in the HB line and he just seemed a natural
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on May 30, 2007, 03:49:47 PM
Kevin played forward at u16 for certain.

I'm against what you're saying, just because he hasnt this 'meanness' about him doesnt make him any worse defender. his tackling is second to none and a natural reader of the game. this makes up for not throwing weight about- those days are gone.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on May 30, 2007, 03:53:18 PM
Slim
I'll conceed to you then.
Is he def starting. How close is Darrell Marting to making the first 15.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on May 30, 2007, 03:59:05 PM
cant be too far away, he played right up until the last couple of games! never know what could happen though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 31, 2007, 12:01:25 PM
Interesting article on the St Galls website:

The State We're In

St Patrick's Day, 2006. As hordes of supporters of Cumann Naomh Gall travelled to Dublin and Croke Park to cheer on the senior football team in the All-Ireland Club Final there was great hope that a unique page of history would be recorded in the annals of our club. And there was great hope in the county also and many messages of encouragement from throughout the country and abroad. Alas the ultimate prize, for which our footballers and many others had worked so hard, eluded us but we all still felt a great pride in being associated with the name of Cumann Naomh Gall and the passion shown by our members has probably never been greater.

And the senior hurling team reaching a first All-County Championship Semi-Final in fifty years also raised our passions and stirred our pride.

2007. Where are we at now? There can be no disguising the fact that we are now a club in disarray. We have lost our chairman, we have members who have fallen out and others have taken sides, we have members pulling against each other and no doubt some behind the scenes stirring the pot, we have excellent players who refuse to play for certain managers and we seem to have left the strengths of our football behind somewhere. And let's not forget the small matter of our financial problems, and with dirty and dated clubrooms no immediate prospect of addressing them.

So how in the name of God have we gone from the highs of an All-Ireland final to where we are today and how can we deal with our problems in a mature and constructive way for the good of our club? Because if we're really interested in Cumann Naomh Gall that's what it's all about. It isn't about you and I, Liam Stewart or Gary Sheehan, Paul Duffin or Kevin McGourty or anyone else individually but rather us all collectively. Collectively we are Cumann Naomh Gall, it's not the clubrooms or the pitches, it's the group of people we are who have a passion for our club and want it to be successful.

How are we in this mess today? Well ask different people and you will receive different answers. But while knowing when or how our problems started is not unimportant it is more important that we resolve them. To do that we have to have a starting point and the obvious starting point is that we all want what is best for our club. And it is essential that we all remember that, if we genuinely want to move this club forward. That is the goal we are all striving for. No one person or group of people has all the answers or the tools to rectify our situation. We need to get away from petty squabbles and jealousies and thinking if things aren't done our way they shouldn't be done at all. We need to get away from the backbiting and personalising of issues at the bar, in the changing rooms and on this website when something goes wrong. We need to become more encouraging towards each other and not aloof. Offer assistance not destructive criticism, deal with each other on the same level, not look down on others as less capable. We need to be accepting of members' capabilities and be positive towards what they offer our club, be it small or great.

There is more than one or two people apart from the committee trying to get the club back on the right tracks although more are always needed but no person or group should feel elitist.

But there seems to be those at work in the club who undermine good work that they do by sniping at others because they are responsible for certain positions or because they choose to do things a certain way. This negative and destructive attitude needs to stop. People talking in whispers and backbiting will only increase divisions and ultimately be counter productive. Indeed sometimes it has to be asked if certain people are working to their own agenda or the club's.

If we pay heed to what is going wrong in Cumann Naomh Gall we can address problems as they arise but we can't sit back and expect a committee that is overworked and pulled out all the stops to get our club to an All-Ireland final to do all the work.

For the last three or so years the club treasurer was very explicit in pointing out where the club was going financially. Whether something could have been done before now is not as important as trying to sort out the debts today. And some people are trying to do that. So if someone has been off their arse for weeks organising a quality fundraising night to benefit our members the least our members can do is get off their own arses for just one night and support it and contribute to the club.

And everyone needs to contribute to the fundraising not just the few so if you're part of a group or a team and you've something planned but for some reason it can't go ahead then come with another idea and just get on with it.

Of course everything is not doom and gloom. There are positives in our club and it's the positives which need built on. But there are areas which need addressed although as a club we can only address issues with some type of unity of purpose and mindset. One important point to remember is that when someone takes on a responsibility, no matter how great or small, they're usually the only person who has accepted to do the work that goes with that responsibility so we should all seek to be encouraging rather than to put down anyone's efforts.

There has been a lot of upheaval in the club and faces are changing. People have done more than their stint and are entitled to enjoy 'retirement' if they so choose. We are all indebted to them but the best tribute we could pay them is to take up the mantle and build upon their successes.

We wont achieve that if we have a senior hurling team feeling victimised or a senior football team aloof from the rest of the club, or a juvenile set up under-resourced or the handballers feeling second class or any other group or part of the club feeling uncomfortable.

And we also must remember that the committee is the only elected authority in the club and ultimate responsibility and accountability rests with those people. We have to acknowledge, that while they don't get everything right, the effort they put in to make the club a success. And they deserve our support.

So let's start anew. Put all the shite behind us, acknowledge each other's contributions, stop the backbiting and be supportive towards each other and move this club on.

Let's make the clubrooms financially viable again but let us also get back to enhancing our underage structures in both hurling and football as well as for the ladies so that we are once again competitive in all codes and challenging for trophies at all levels. After all isn't this what Cumann Naomh Gall is really all about? Let's get a working group identifying and addressing problems with underage hurling, seek to have our handballers better integrated into the club, lets utilise even more throughout the club the undoubted expertise of our senior footballers and let us recognise the talents and contributions of all. Too much to ask?

Well let's set the target high and strive for it.


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 31, 2007, 12:20:11 PM
Seems like one or two key members have retired. Men like Vincent Ward wont be easily replaced, but no one can go on forever.

the spirit of St Galls should be strong enough to bounce back again. Good luck to them.

Its ironic though that so much intense, and financial effort was put into winning the all - ireland club title, that the "energy" has been sapped out of the club. Antrim football needs a strong St Galls.  In sure they wouldnt fancy this article going onto a bigger medium though, and would prefer to sort out their own problems internally. Show them enough respect to let them do that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on May 31, 2007, 12:40:47 PM
what peoples reaction to the antrim team for sunday


1. Sean McGreevey - Naomh Pól
2. Tony Scullion - Clann na hÉireann
3. Paul Doherty - Naomh Mhuire
4. Kevin O’Boyle - Clann na hÉireann
5. Sean McVeigh - Naomh Uile
6. Gavin Bell - Ui Dhonnabhain Rosa
7. Justin Crozier - Clann na hÉireann
8. Michael McCann - Clann na hÉireann
9. Joe Quinn - Naomh Pól
10. Aodhan Gallagher - Naomh Gall
11. Kevin Niblock - Naomh Gall
12. James Loughery - Naomh Brid
13. Conor McGourty - Naomh Gall
14. Kevin Brady - Naomh Ergnat
15. Patrick Cunningham - Lámh Dhearg

16. Chris Kerr - Naomh Gall
17. Ciaran Close - Clann na hÉireann
18. Eoin O’Neill - Clann na hÉireann
19. Darrel Martin - Chiceann
20. Tomas Close - Clann na hÉireann
21. Paul Close - Ui Dhonnabhain Rosa
22. Michael Rea - Naomh Seosamh
23. Colin Brady - Naomh Gall
24. Conor McGoldrick - Naomh Treasa
25. Patrick Logan - Naomh Uile
26. Liam Gartland - Naomh Pól
27. John Finnucane - Lámh Dhearg


it'll prob not line out like this but i have serious concerns about where the scores r goin to come from. if derry keep the frees down to a minimum i cant see antrim getting more than 3/4 points from play.
brady wont get u many scores. despite all the hype about cunningham he is very markable from open play altho lethal from dead balls. dont no enough about mcgourty at this level to know if he will make an impact. and the half forward isn't going to get many scores. i would have started close he has much more pace than the other two corner forwards to get out in front and take a man on to draw frees.

what do people think?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on May 31, 2007, 12:51:46 PM
Any word on who will be captain?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on May 31, 2007, 01:05:21 PM
Definitely Close should be starting. You know what your getting from him. CJ hit or miss, too many off days recently.

Kevin O Boyle in the c`ship last year, Yyan Scott v Derry u 21, when CJ was shite, Gort Naona corner back in last weeks Antrim u -21 final, and pure crap v Donegal in last years Ulster c`ship minor final.

Sorry, but thats 4 out of the last 5 times I seen him play, and that dosent spell consistency to me.

Close a far safer bet. (Love to be proved badly wrong, but wont be!)

On the captain, I`d say Brady or Beller ,or Mick, or big Joe. Does it really matter?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on May 31, 2007, 01:24:51 PM
I think Clos will still be captain, lead the team out and take the toss etc. its hardly worth the hassle of picking another one.

if there was to be another captain, I'd choose Sean McGreevey.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on May 31, 2007, 01:27:25 PM
Slighly embarrassing for Close...what say ye Slim...if you are the real slim shady(ye have been to polite for the real slim me thinks)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: EannaAbu on May 31, 2007, 01:58:00 PM
i think the saffrons have lined out with a lot of strength at the back, loughry and gallagher will also pack the midfield, will relying a lot on frees though, kick outs will tagert mcveigh an ddoherty on either flank, we could get a bit of joy winning ball there, am glad to see some new faces getting a chance, nothing to loose
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on May 31, 2007, 02:02:02 PM
expect a 2 man full forward line with Brady playing in Loughreys position.

Crozier will be playing Centre Half Back, not wing half as stated.

Kickouts will be targetting McVeigh?!?!?! have you seen McGreevey kick a ball? They'll be targetting Mick McCann in the middle of the park and Gallagher at RHF.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 31, 2007, 06:25:54 PM
  In sure they wouldnt fancy this article going onto a bigger medium though, and would prefer to sort out their own problems internally. Show them enough respect to let them do that.

Away a that. This piece is an inspirational step that deserves the publicity the author has given it. Too many clubs in all counties, but a real killer in Antrim, suffer from fatal internal bickering. Any problems they are suffering are happening sometimes tenfold at others. However, too often, nothing is done about it. St Galls is Antrim's flagship club and no wonder when you have members willing to post the above.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CiKe on May 31, 2007, 07:10:39 PM
excellent thoughtful piece. terrible shame the divisions in the club, every club has them but in the eyars i was playing they seemed to be kept to a minimum. have lost touch since moving abroad a few years abck but obviously things have deteriorated. good luck to htem, I hope they get things back on track.

re the game and the forwards. Has CJ bulked up at all? Without being slow, he was never lightning quick so I'd have thought a tenacious corner back would have him in his pocket - particularly given his propensity to start whinging and stop playing football. good luck to all the Galls boys and the rest of the team, it would be a great scalp
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Queenie on June 01, 2007, 08:25:49 AM
Message for the Real Slim Shady, a serious rumour is gathering about the Dunloy v Cargin game, you will know what i mean slim, is there any truth in it! I hear it was deserved - bad crack to put a person in!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 01, 2007, 10:57:58 AM
Go on Queenie...expand on what you mean.

If there is a rumour is can be confirmed on dispelled on this board.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on June 01, 2007, 02:06:48 PM
i would like 2hear more about this incident at the dunloy v cargin game. come on queenie spill.

slim has gone decidedly quiet on this thread..trying to avoid something maybe?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 01, 2007, 02:09:41 PM
Was this not already commented on and dismissed by Slim? Does it involve a certain Antrim midfielder and a red card? Maybe it's something else?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 01, 2007, 02:12:06 PM
correct hardstation, it was commented on and I've previously said it is bollocks!! someone with too much time on their hands.

any thoughts on the game? or are you just interested in idle gossip?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 01, 2007, 02:28:29 PM
Im not going to say it's untrue simply because I wasn't at the game and I only know what I've read here but you always get this type of rumour coming up to a big game with almost all of them being lies. Anyway, I think there could be a huge upset on Sunday and would love to see it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on June 01, 2007, 02:45:33 PM
Was at the game in duloy, was a straight red for the antrim mid fielder. NO questions NO quibbles.

Was a cowardly action anyway running in and driving someone up against the fence when their back was turned!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 01, 2007, 02:48:23 PM
wrong and wrong again.

p.s. nice to see you've hidden your e-mail address eventually NAG, i'd go easy on the rumour spreading mate  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on June 01, 2007, 03:32:26 PM
funny NAG thats exactly what i heard about the incident at the cargin dunloy game as i have previously stated. u were at the game and i heard it from a reliable source who was also at the game. so there must ne some truth in it.
why the big cover uo slim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 01, 2007, 03:37:24 PM
lads, i'm covering nothing up as there is nothing to cover!! get a grip or go to the Hoganstand.

Jesus but this place is away to f**k altogether.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on June 01, 2007, 03:42:33 PM
im not trying to make big deal of this but i heard from a cargin person who was at the game that mccann was shown straight red for shouldering a dunloy player into fence. u denied this which i accepted but now 2 other people have commented on the thread today about the incident as well which leads me to presume there is some true in it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 01, 2007, 03:45:48 PM
I'm not a fan of Cargin (but don't dislike them either) and I don't know the player very well but I think people are just throwing in the odd bit of bullshit to add to the build up of the game. A key player gets sent off a week before a big game for two yellows, it's obvious that the straight red rumours are going to start. I take it with a pinch of salt.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on June 01, 2007, 03:59:14 PM
hardstation u know how loyal and patriotic cargin fans and players r. why then would one tell me that mccann was shown a straight red which was then changed to 2yellows after the game. and this person is a good friend of mine so theres no chance they were lieing
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 01, 2007, 04:07:07 PM
I wouldn't think he's lying as he told you what he was told but this doesn't mean his information is correct. If it's a rumour, I doubt it started with your friend but it still could be lies.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on June 01, 2007, 04:12:52 PM
my source was actually at the game and seen the incident. he also knows the player in question so again unlikely that he would lie.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Queenie on June 02, 2007, 05:12:19 PM
Slim i have a close colleague who would be a member of the CCC, i,m telling you it seems to me like a cover up! Straight red no doubts, it was contributing to a melee, Category 2- 4 weeks, you have totally gone down in my estimation slim. You know it! Dunloy know it, and everyone is keeping stumb, an alleged cover up from Snr Officials. Real report probably got lost, anyone know who Refereed it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: awh ref on June 02, 2007, 05:24:27 PM
My Source also at game confirms it was a straight red. 
Ref was a G Duffy
I heard the Cargin players threatened to pull out of the county squad if it was not reduced to 2 yellows.
I think the county should have called there bluff as I don't think all the cargin players on the county team would have agreed to this stance. 
But the player in question would have been a major loss to the county team if unavailable.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on June 04, 2007, 01:56:18 PM
any response to the above comments slim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 04, 2007, 01:59:43 PM
any response to the above comments slim?
He has commented and is not going to change what he is said. I'm bored by this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on June 04, 2007, 02:18:35 PM
he commented on it by covering up what really happened, which is what i dont understand. why u backing him up hardstation, would u like to know what happened?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 04, 2007, 02:27:56 PM
he commented on it by covering up what really happened, which is what i dont understand. why u backing him up hardstation, would u like to know what happened?
Yes I would but I will not find out here. This will just turn into a bickering match between you and Slim with neither of you backing down. No one will be able to prove the other wrong and therefore it is a pointless argument.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 04, 2007, 02:33:05 PM
from Hoganstand....

Former boss Delargy backs Gormley
03 June 2007


The decision of Antrim senior football boss Jody Gormley to blood four under 21s agianst in Derry in today’s (Sunday) Ulster SFC has been applauded by former county under 21 manager Frank Delargy.

"I think he is setting down a marker," Delargy opines.

"He will see what he can get out of this season with these players and build for the future.

"There are some great Antrim players missing at the moment for one reason or another.

"Some of those would be Kevin McGourty, Sean Kelly, Tony Convery, Mark Dougan and Micheal Magill.

"Those players would get on any team in Ireland.

"I think if those players come back Antrim will have a very strong team next year.

"But I think Jody is working this year to put the foundations in for a full, all-out, assault next year."

 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 04, 2007, 02:43:22 PM
Anyone know who won the Saffron Sweep?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on June 04, 2007, 03:01:50 PM
all the prize winners are on the www.antrimgaa.net page, sean docherty from portglenone won the appartment in bulgaria, think a fella from portglenone won the £10,000
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on June 04, 2007, 03:12:00 PM
If the player in question did indeed get a straight red card for the alleged offence, would the suspension of four weeks have applied to Antrim as well as his club? 

Still, not as bad as playing while suspended.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 04, 2007, 03:36:39 PM
Quote
If the player in question did indeed get a straight red card for the alleged offence, would the suspension of four weeks have applied to Antrim as well as his club?

 ???Why would it not??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 04, 2007, 03:42:29 PM
If the player in question did indeed get a straight red card for the alleged offence, would the suspension of four weeks have applied to Antrim as well as his club? 

Still, not as bad as playing while suspended.

ffs, Sam, I'll ask since nobody else has picked up on your un-subtle hints.... who played while suspended?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on June 04, 2007, 03:53:08 PM
If a player receives a suspension of up to 4 weeks he is still free to still play his county, anything over 4 weeks he is suspended from both club and county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on June 05, 2007, 08:21:47 AM
Quote
If the player in question did indeed get a straight red card for the alleged offence, would the suspension of four weeks have applied to Antrim as well as his club?

 ???Why would it not??

If a player receives a suspension of up to 4 weeks he is still free to still play his county, anything over 4 weeks he is suspended from both club and county

This answers hardstation's question I hope.

If the player in question did indeed get a straight red card for the alleged offence, would the suspension of four weeks have applied to Antrim as well as his club? 

Still, not as bad as playing while suspended.

ffs, Sam, I'll ask since nobody else has picked up on your un-subtle hints.... who played while suspended?

Can't give a name, but like I said before this incident tells me that we're not ALL SAINTS  in Antrim.  Yash told me about it - they were playing against the team in question.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on June 05, 2007, 09:21:17 AM
Therreal slimshandy

I was at the game and I know exactly what I saw and Im not colour blind or stupid, so whats your agenda in this?

The truth will always out.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 05, 2007, 09:39:06 AM
Come on Slim, don't be dishonest...the truth is out there!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on June 05, 2007, 10:48:44 AM
Get over it ffs, would yous all rather that antrim played derry without their best player?

Was just reading paddy heaneys column, you get some real arrogant b**tards doing stewards and turnstiles at matches.

2 winners of tickets courtesy of the irish news were turned away from the game on sunday, because they were told their tickets were forgeries!

coome on for feck sake, its not like it was the champions league final , mind u derry fans are as bad as liverpool fans, no one likes us we don't care !! lol  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 05, 2007, 10:52:18 AM
Get over it ffs, would yous all rather that antrim played derry without their best player?

Was just reading paddy heaneys column, you get some real arrogant b**tards doing stewards and turnstiles at matches.

2 winners of tickets courtesy of the irish news were turned away from the game on sunday, because they were told their tickets were forgeries!

coome on for feck sake, its not like it was the champions league final , mind u derry fans are as bad as liverpool fans, no one likes us we don't care !! lol  ;D

too right, they weren't allowing anyone out to get a bite to eat or they'd have to pay in again! Ignorant hoors who wouldnt attend a club game.

saying that, i got in for nothing thanks to one of said men  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on June 05, 2007, 11:10:22 AM
The minor game was a very one-sided affair.

Are Derry that good a side?

Are Antrim that bad?

Or is O'Prey the tool that JohnJoe says he is?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on June 05, 2007, 11:25:25 AM
Ethan, my thoughts on that are well known, but as a manager I know how raw defeat can be, and i wouldnt want to be putting the boot into anyone at this time.

i would have preferred to have put up a credit worthy performance at least, but two scores from play in an hour is not good in anyones book. I`d say the powers that be will have their own questions to ponder, and I know they will deal with it as they see fit.

I`d be well impressed with Mc Sparrans ability to make hard calls, and trust his judgement on this one.

Antrim Football needs the very very best coaches/personell, from u-14 to u-21, the development journey, and this would be a priority for us all. But now is not the time or place for recriminations.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on June 05, 2007, 11:53:31 AM
antrim minors just didnt turn up on sunday.
they couldnt do the simple things and the conditions cant be used as excuse because it was the same for both teams.
they couldnt hold onto the ball, couldnt pick it up first time and they couldnt get out in front of their men.
the defence done ok considering they were under seige, but the forwards were woeful.

at the start i thought they half back line and midfield fannied about with the ball too long before putting it into the forwards, but the forwards werent showing and werent interested.


mcdooooowell who have you managed b4 apart from sean stinsons u12's or u14's.
i know ur interested in motorbikes did you managed any of the dunlops, joey or rab! :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on June 06, 2007, 01:32:21 PM
Name and shame the seniors who had to re arrange their flights for america from last monday to next because of the match being rained off?

who are they all, I personally think they are cheating the whole county with this attitude.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 06, 2007, 01:59:40 PM
NAG, you're a bit of a gossip monger aren't you with all this name and shame malarkey. May i point out that I have your e-mail address and if theres any more of yer oul shite I'll be naming-and shaming you.

 :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 06, 2007, 03:04:53 PM
Slim does it not get up your nose to the extent that you loose respect for players who have planned to go to the states. In their minds they have excepted defeat...and that after all is the first battle that has to be won if winning in the championship is what a footballer wants to achieve. If players have done this why do they deserve to be shown respect. if you were offered the chance to play in the championship for Antrim, would you not jump at the chance, change your entire life to allow you make the best of that opportunity.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on June 06, 2007, 04:12:47 PM
Therealslimshady

do you think this is right for antrim footballers to book to go to america a day after their first round game?

what does this say about their attitude?

or maybe you agree with them?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 06, 2007, 04:16:13 PM
no, i dont think its right at all. The management must know something about it though and therefore should have ruled them out long ago- regardless of it weakening the team. There is no 'i' in team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NAG on June 06, 2007, 04:24:54 PM
well then what is the problem

do you want players with that attitude representing you and your county?

I dont think the majority of antrim people would!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 06, 2007, 05:42:25 PM
Lads listen to the whiter than white posters on this site. Yes I think that players should have the decency to arrange these things after the fact. And if they run around publicising that they are going out to the states on such a date so soon after the championship game then they are wrong.

But are they wrong to be going to play and be offered all sorts of dough for a game they love playing. You boys are complaining about them not committing to the county, spare a thought for senior management of both teams in Naomh Gall, who will be without these lads. Do I have a grudge at them for going away? No, I did it when I was there age. Do I need them playing for the club? Yes, but what can you do. Wish I had the opportunity.

 Lets not get bogged down on the McGourty’s going to the states. Every club has had someone go (we have 6 dual senior players heading off), as far as I know it’s not a hanging offence.

 So lets talk about Antrim beating Derry this Sunday I’m bored of this topic
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 06, 2007, 07:15:36 PM
I don't think the discussion is against people playing football in the states, every young lad would love that....no its about what message does it say about their will to win against derry when they have it pre arranged to go after the derry game :o :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on June 10, 2007, 04:11:45 PM
Galf Time

Antrim 0-6 Derry 0-6 were 1-5 down
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Tyrones own on June 10, 2007, 04:23:54 PM

  They'll bring poor Paddy the victim in for the 2nd ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on June 10, 2007, 05:21:46 PM

  They'll bring poor Paddy the victim in for the 2nd ;)

and they did
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: thebuzz on June 10, 2007, 08:16:23 PM
 Quote from: Tyrones own on Today at 04:23:54 PM

  They'll bring poor Paddy the victim in for the 2nd


'and they did '

I don't think he even touched the ball.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: the colonel on June 11, 2007, 10:46:38 AM
mcgourty said in the irish news that they will give the tommy murphy a good go so maybe he will be staying for the summer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on June 11, 2007, 03:55:25 PM
bullshit, plane leaves tomorrow!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 11, 2007, 04:03:57 PM
i hope they do go, not one flying f**k could i give about that pile of dung that is the Tommy Murphy Cup- what a load of bull it is.

And, if they do go it'd mean not having to worry about them in the club C'ship for a wee while  :)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on June 11, 2007, 04:06:45 PM
After the displays of the last few weeks, all i can say is Im in a state of depression at the state of football in Antrim.

Our game plans were pathetic, tactics naive, wrong sustitutions, (Niblock and Brady were both doing well) dont get me started!

Were 5 points down with 20 to go, and there is 80 yards between our non existent forward line, and two light weight forwards. plus, Derry had a man in the hole to cut off supply into them.

What the hell was wrong with putting all our six forwards back in to their traditional positions, and playing the game in the Derry half, or at least provide a target.

And last week we get two points in an hour in minor football, from play!

Bullshit, two weeks in a row, and Im seriously pissed off. Dont get me started.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 11, 2007, 05:29:55 PM
well the lads that are going away seemed to be theones that put a bit of fight into the game and did nearly all their scoring.

if we had have won the game these lads would have stayed thats for sure.

any Cargin lads going Slim?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on June 12, 2007, 08:41:26 AM
Results from last nights games:

Div 1 Football
St. Johns  0-10 1-15 St. Galls  Corrigan Park 
Lamh Dhearg  3-9 2-12 Creggan Kickhams  Lamh Dhearg   
Moneyglass  1-17 0-9 Gort Na Mona  Moneyglass   
Cargin  2-8 2-4 Portglenone  Cargin   

Division 2 Football
Davitts  1-13 2-9 Aghagallon  Boucher Road   
Glenravel  1-12 0-10 Rossa  Glenravel   
St. Endas  4-8 0-8 Mc Dermotts  Woodlands

In our match  the result is wrong as Rossa scored 1-4. Big result for Moneyglass
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ethan Edwards on June 12, 2007, 11:33:37 AM
Creggan still going strong with Mickey Moran at the helm, sitting top of he league, surely they must me c'ship contenders
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 12, 2007, 11:50:00 AM
indeed, must be favourites at this stage with their impressive form!

Cargin v Creggan in the O'Cahan Cup was due to be played this Friday evening has been cancelled at Creggans request. Apparently they have too many games this week, the same amount as ourselves.

i wouldnt be surprised to see Mickey Moran managing Antrim in the very near future.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on June 12, 2007, 12:44:43 PM
Was at Cargin v portglenone last night.

Cargin looking good, sharp and slick, and good disciplined football, no messing. Still the team to beat this year.

portglenone looked sluggish and a few struggled with the pace of the game, tho only four points in it they have a few weeks hard work ahead. Tomas Mc Cann best on pitch, followed by Crozier. Convery and impressive gerard McAleese who about broke even with kevin o boyle, were best for Casements.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on June 12, 2007, 05:35:43 PM
well young McGourty is away. apparently got his father to go down to casement yesterday to get his transfer signed for him and left dublin airport today at lunchtime! so much for giving the tommy murphy a lash!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on June 12, 2007, 05:47:34 PM
What a p***k, he's quoted in papers today again saying he is staying for a number of reasons "I'm sure all the phones will be ringing, but I'm here and likely to be here for the summer as there are certain circumstances I need to be here for"
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: goldenyears on June 12, 2007, 05:55:55 PM
would anyone give mcgettigan the credit for putting creggan where they are now? or would it boil down to moran bringing it on a level or two? curious to find out opinions....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on June 12, 2007, 07:04:03 PM
read that in the mirror myself, and laughed since the irish news knew the truth. brendan crossan and mcgourty's are fond of exchanging phone calls!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on June 12, 2007, 07:10:06 PM
Sure are!
He must have said all that after the match though, why did he keep lying?
Sounds like he took the cowards route today with his da aswell, did Gormley know about it? He had to
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on June 12, 2007, 07:19:37 PM
gormley questioned everyone after the game, "who would not be at training on tuesday?(tonight) and everyone claimed they would be there! shows little respect for antrim and gormley!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on June 12, 2007, 07:30:14 PM
Should be an interesting session then so!
If I was Gormley and that was the case I'd pack it in, why should he put neck and reputation on the line!

Always interesting in Antrim!!  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 12, 2007, 07:48:26 PM
Would Gormley have played him if he knew for definite that CJ was going? Surely he had an inkling.......the dogs on the street.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 12, 2007, 09:33:39 PM
Creggan have been on the up for a few years now. Moran has probably just injected a new enthusiasm and he is genuinely a top coach which would help but they have some decent, maybe not brilliant, but decent players to work with.

I would expect them to be one of the stronger u16 and minor teams in the county which will help in the future. You don't become a decent division one team overnight team too so someone must have done something - not sure if it was McGettigan or not but they certainly seem to have and have had decent underage structures in place.

It would be very unrealistic to be thinking just because they are competing well in the league that Creggan could compete in the championship with the big guns. They can compete for maybe fourth best team but the calibre of player coming out of Cargin and St Galls is just much better than anything coming out of anywhere else. Lamh Dhearg would be next at the minute too. I'd like to see them and Portglenone in the c'ship  they'd likely be about the same level.

I would hear bits and pieces and I would guess McGettigan would be one of the key players in Creggan getting better - not 100% sure though. Slim maybe you can unbiasedly comment??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on June 13, 2007, 08:30:52 AM
Nothing to keep young McGourty at home - just doing what any right minded 19 year old would do.  A chance of a summer in the States, a few quid etc. vs. the Tommy Murphy Cup.  He is the first of many who will be heading and not just from Antrim.  By removing Antrim from the qualifiers it just brought his decision forward by a few weeks.

Did Jody Gormley ever go to play in the States after Tyrone were knocked out of the Championship?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 13, 2007, 08:48:57 AM
i wouldnt stay here for that Tommy Murphy Cup shite, in fact I'd recommend that if Antrim are going to enter it they should only train once a week or not at all- or f**k it, just dont bother entering the f**king thing. its a total sham of a money making scheme for the GAA and nobody really gives a shit about the prestigious Tommy Murphy Cup!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 13, 2007, 08:58:16 AM
 Playwiththewind, you sound like a disgruntled panel player, did he take your place McGourty, you seem to know a lot about him are you a stalker very worrying that you know so much, what was the meal on the plane and what movie did they watch?

He’s gone get over it, will Antrim get anything out of winning the division 4 Championship? I doubt I very much. Had Jody kept us in division 3 thus ensuring playing in the qualifiers then that would have been looked on as a success. How many people will travel down to Kilkenny to watch Antrim get a tough game?


you've got in before me Slim!
Someone said it before on this board although I thought it was about hurling but it could be used for football, let the players play for their clubs and pick the form players each week, and the money saved could go into developing football at juvenile and school levels. Has all the training weekends challenge games and use of the most sophisticated fitness suit in Ireland (Jordanstown) the payment of trainers and managers made Antrim any better than the teams in the last 30 years? NO

Fix it at grass roots level first don’t be pumping money at something that hasn’t and won’t work. Then you get these toss pots coming on slagging people off for going of and earning a few pound. Go off and try it lads it’s well worth the trip. If we are depending on 19 years olds for Antrim to win the Tommy Murphy Cup then we are seriously in a bad state.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stranworst on June 13, 2007, 10:46:33 AM
Irish News today quote from Paddy Cunningham saying he's not stateside??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 13, 2007, 10:47:00 AM
and what?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 13, 2007, 10:58:59 AM
What date are the first rounds of the football championship?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stranworst on June 13, 2007, 11:08:02 AM
Just wanted to know what everyone thought after bad mouthing him and CJ about going?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 13, 2007, 11:09:58 AM
think we play Lamhs on the 29th of July or the 1st of August in the preliminary round
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on June 13, 2007, 11:11:25 AM
im just passing on what i heard from a very strong source.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stranworst on June 13, 2007, 11:15:21 AM
I know, I'm not badmouthing ya Play!! I had heard the exact same thing myself, thought it was true bill.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on June 13, 2007, 12:15:46 PM
Irish News today quote from Paddy Cunningham saying he's not stateside??

he leaves monday!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 18, 2007, 09:24:36 AM
CJ's home from Amerca.

Yes, thats right, after all the chat about him going after him telling the papers he wasn't going- he did go. And lasted 3 days, apparently while unpacking his suitcase he realised he forgot his lucky underpants and went back to West Belfast to retrieve them. he's now intending to stay home.

Result from yesterday

St Galls 0-11
Cargin 0-13
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 18, 2007, 09:33:59 AM
CJ's home from Amerca.

Yes, thats right, after all the chat about him going after him telling the papers he wasn't going- he did go. And lasted 3 days, apparently while unpacking his suitcase he realised he forgot his lucky underpants and went back to West Belfast to retrieve them. he's now intending to stay home.

Result from yesterday

St Galls 0-11
Cargin 0-13

All of the above is true. What an ass ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on June 18, 2007, 10:13:50 AM
Weekend results from Div 1 and 2

Sunday 17th June 2007
Division 1 Football

Portglenone  0-15 0-7 St. Pauls
St. Galls  0-11 0-13 Cargin 
Creggan Kickhams  1-12 0-10 Moneyglass 

Division 2 Football

Aghagallon  0-12 0-10 St. Endas     
St. Brigids B 2-16 1-6 Rossa 

Saturday 16th June 2007
Div 1 Football
Dunloy  4-12 3-6 Lamh Dhearg 
   
Division 2 Football

All Saints  0-10 0-10 Glenravel   

Friday 15th June 2007

 Division 2 Football

Rasharkin  4-12 1-11 Davitts   

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on June 18, 2007, 11:02:56 AM
bit of a slip on saturday in ur local derby niccsa, what happened!

aye heard cj was home, wonder what happened, was he home sick or what?

paddy cunningham leaves this week, along with kerr the sub goalie.

good result for dunloy on sat, lamhs will find it tough without cunningham. is christy lynch still in america.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 18, 2007, 11:10:34 AM
homesick after 3 days? most of which would have been spent travelling?! f**k aff!!

he must have got off the plane and didnt like the look of the airport and decided to get a flight home.

his brother Kevin (Shaws Road) was playing yesterday, needs a good kick in the balls. He is by far the whiniest hoor I've ever seen towards his team mates, never lets up with abuse towards his fellow Galls men.

On another note, Milltown Row- your facilities are nothing short of a disgrace. The changing rooms are filthy, the showers just about dripping-ice cold, and the state of your pitch takes the piss. No lines or f**k all. One lad was charged with putting up the 'nets' beforehand on his own and as one ball dropped on it in the 1st game they fell down round your keeper! Very shoddy indeed. there was plenty of support for your senior team, so why aren't these people pulling their weight around the club?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd on June 18, 2007, 11:16:52 AM
Slim i though Kevin "Midnight Cowboy" Mc Gourty was going to the America too to seek his fortune, has he not went yet? Have to agree with you about the facilities in St Galls, the changing rooms are a joke for a club as big as St Galls
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 18, 2007, 11:22:03 AM
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aye heard cj was home, wonder what happened, was he home sick or what?
The same reason he went, the same reason he made a song and dance before going and the same reason shaws road didn't bother with the county panel this year.
Attention seeking!
I wonder if we'll see yet another interview with young CJ in the Irish News this week spouting some dung like 'I'm an Antrim man and I couldn't leave the boys to fight for the Tommy Murphy cup by themselves' and all his trademark cliches.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Syd on June 18, 2007, 11:29:52 AM
Spot on Hardstation. I wonder how the family publicist Brendan Crossan feels today after that pile of sh*te he wrote on Fridays Irish News, about CJ would be mad staying at home etc etc.....No doubt the record will be set straight in the next few days by young CJ
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 18, 2007, 11:31:41 AM
hardstation, not even they would be that ridiculous!

be surprised to see him take part in the Tommy Murphy Cup.

Whiney Ass Kevin was playing 3rd midfielder against us yesterday, piss poor. He singled out some lad Alfie for most of his abuse, young lad- Left Half Back. Hannigan perhaps?
Anyhow, St Galls were missing a fair few and will be very hard to beat come crunch time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 18, 2007, 11:35:42 AM
yes lads changing rooms are a disgrace thats the same for both, we are currently trying to get new ones but there is no excuse,. i'm embarrassed by this, and pitch also needs looking after, us as managers have to put the nets up and they are crap at that. big club but only a small amount of people putting effort in. is that not the same with most clubs?

cargin looked good yesterday, it's been a while since you came down a beat us well, though we were missing some lads beating us at home is good stuff.

conor John McGourty is home, found out they dont do soda farles and brown sauce. not sure how his transfer will work out and when he's available for Naomh Gall. some micky taking in the club yesterday think he missed his mummy
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 18, 2007, 11:39:44 AM
Alfie Hannaway. I think his da (Alfie) had something to do with the county set up when Mickey Culbert was manager. Water boy or something. He got a free T- shirt anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 18, 2007, 11:51:24 AM
hey Hardstation, Alfie snr is  a great fella. less of your lip >:( he would not do you a bad turn

alfie would give good rub downs before games and is a good guy to have in a team set up. well respected within club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 18, 2007, 12:01:33 PM
hey Hardstation, Alfie snr is  a great fella. less of your lip >:( he would not do you a bad turn

alfie would give good rub downs before games and is a good guy to have in a team set up. well respected within club
Where did I say he was not a great fella?
 ???
By the way, he works for Value Cabs or Fona Cab and he picked me up one day. We got talking football and he charged me 3 quid. The meter read £5.90 so yes he is a decent fella.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 18, 2007, 12:04:48 PM
feeling rough Station, hard night on the tiles :'(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 18, 2007, 12:24:22 PM
Can anyone post the results from the weekend on here...can't access the Antrim result/fixtures from here.

Good win for Cargin?
Portlgenone must be on a bit of a roll.
And was pleasantly surprised to see Dunloy beat Lamh Dearg, good win - heard Micko Herron was throwing his weight around.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 18, 2007, 12:25:48 PM
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Can anyone post the results from the weekend on here...can't access the Antrim result/fixtures from here.
Page 74
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 18, 2007, 12:28:39 PM
Cheers hardstation - missed that!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 18, 2007, 01:05:09 PM
Can anyone post the results from the weekend on here...can't access the Antrim result/fixtures from here.

Good win for Cargin?
Portlgenone must be on a bit of a roll.
And was pleasantly surprised to see Dunloy beat Lamh Dearg, good win - heard Micko Herron was throwing his weight around.

what sort of Roll would that be? sausage roll?

we beat them comfortably last week.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 18, 2007, 02:02:19 PM
4 points (if I am right) isn't amazingly comfortable.
Admittedly a few of your team were on the sauce after Antrim's loss to Derry.

They almost beat St Galls earlier in the year...have run all the big three close enough and disposed of the rest (aside from a bit of a freak result against Moneyglass). Not bad for a club that was touted before the season began as crumbling with Madden definitely gone.

Anyhow...not sure why I am defending Portglenone.

Creggan for the championship.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on June 18, 2007, 02:07:00 PM
Aye Culchy dropping too many silly points, were 3 points up with less than 10 to go and went to sleep. Rasharkin have only dropped 1 point to ourselves whereas the rest of the teams seem to be taking points off each other.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 18, 2007, 02:09:46 PM
were you at the game? they didnt run us close, now get a f**king grip. there was 4 points in it due to 2 fortuitous goals, they never looked like troubling Cargin- without our playmaker Devlin.

Creggan?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 18, 2007, 04:30:32 PM
Slim...fortuitous goals or not...you beat Portglenone by 4 points.
Missing one player? They were missing several.

I was merely saying that for a team written off at the start of the year they have done rightly...nothing wrong with that.

You get a f**king grip. The world does not begin and end with Cargin despite you being the Oracle on all things gaelic football...


Creggan or St Galls...just not Cargin.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 18, 2007, 04:39:04 PM
What has been going wrong with Lamh Dhearg this year? They have been league champions and championship finalists in the last couple of years and yet they can't win a match this year ???
And the two draws they got were with the team at the top of the league (Creggan) and the team at the bottom of the league not including themselves (St. Johns) ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on June 18, 2007, 04:49:15 PM
Aye Culchy dropping too many silly points, were 3 points up with less than 10 to go and went to sleep. Rasharkin have only dropped 1 point to ourselves whereas the rest of the teams seem to be taking points off each other.

aye that seems to happen alot in div2 and not just this year either.
bein a rasharkin man mysel, i've been keepin an eye on ur results. i hear big logan put the crucial free over near the end from bout 50metres.
hopefully we can keep picking up the points, we beat davitts on fri nite, not bad team by all accounts.
sean og o'neill is a damn decent player, even though they were gettin beat handy enuf they still kept playin football
something i wudnt have associated with them in the past.

ballymena wont be that far away come, well i was goin to say sept/oct, but it will prob be dec.
we play them in the o'cahan cup on fri nite.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 19, 2007, 08:49:08 AM
Slim...fortuitous goals or not...you beat Portglenone by 4 points.
Missing one player? They were missing several.

I was merely saying that for a team written off at the start of the year they have done rightly...nothing wrong with that.

You get a f**king grip. The world does not begin and end with Cargin despite you being the Oracle on all things gaelic football...


Creggan or St Galls...just not Cargin.




where did i say it began and ended in Cargin you fuckwit? i did say however that ST GALLS are the team to beat NOT us. you really are dim.

and are you seriously saying Creggan for the Championship?! SERIOUSLY?! you think Creggan are capable of beating St Galls in Casement?

 :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

stick to the hurling laddie, ye havny a clue aboot fitba!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 19, 2007, 08:54:29 AM
The radio was reporting this morning that CJ had taken ill, explaining his quick return from the States :D...in the same sentence it said he would be joining the Antrimm squad for the Tommy Cooper Cup. Best of luck to CJ and the boys in the Tommy Cooper Cup :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 19, 2007, 08:59:37 AM
correct Max, he was very sick- homesick! missed his Mammy's goodnight kisses and hugs  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 19, 2007, 09:50:12 AM
You are the fuckwit Slim.
I said I want Creggan or St Galls to win the football...not you.
Where did I say that I thought Creggan could beat St Galls at Casement. All I said was that I want Creggan or St Galls to win the Antrim Championship...and again...not you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 19, 2007, 09:55:59 AM
so you want the Stickys to win?  :D ;D

Jealousy is a horrid thing...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on June 19, 2007, 10:35:12 AM
Culchy,

Youse seem to be doing all right this year, with nearly the first round complete only 1 point dropped (we really should have won).Yourselves would be favourites to go back up again and 1 from about 5 others at the minute.
Have you played St Brigids yet?
I was surprised how physical Ballymena were on staurday and they have big men up the spine of their team, also when we played Davitts they played good football but just couldn't finish
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 19, 2007, 10:49:38 AM
I'd fancy St Biddys to beat 'sharrrrkin. Youse boys is no gooders!!!!!!!

Cant see 'sharkin coming up out of that league for a couple of years, dont rate the attitude of a lot of the players.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnneycool on June 19, 2007, 10:56:30 AM
The radio was reporting this morning that CJ had taken ill, explaining his quick return from the States :D...in the same sentence it said he would be joining the Antrimm squad for the Tommy Cooper Cup. Best of luck to CJ and the boys in the Tommy Cooper Cup :D

As a matter of interest, if his temporary transfer went through to whatever club he was meant to play for in the states, can he now still play for St Galls and Antrim or does he have to sit out the 3 month transfer?

We had a lad return home early from the states recently and he had to sit out a few weeks until his three months were up, is this still the case?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on June 19, 2007, 11:21:36 AM
I'd fancy St Biddys to beat 'sharrrrkin. Youse boys is no gooders!!!!!!!

Cant see 'sharkin coming up out of that league for a couple of years, dont rate the attitude of a lot of the players.

slim, i'm not goin to go into our clubs politics on here.
but ur rite to say some of our boys attitudes stink, all the same we will come up this year no doubt about it, i cud take the team an get back up. :D
we still have alot of good dedicated players, if we put in the same effort and time as you's do in toome, we wud be up there with u's!
but its easier said than done, aint that rite slim. ;)

we put in a serious effort a couple of years ago and got to the semi, so it shows it is possible if the attitude is rite.
too many booze begs ! ::)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 19, 2007, 11:33:54 AM
if the attitude isnt right it doesnt matter a f**k who is in charge or how long ye's are out trainin. no gooders drag the team down and thats that, 'sharkin has too many no gooderssssssssssssssss.........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on June 19, 2007, 12:02:15 PM
i'm not arguing with ye slim, just think we will come back up this year, but unless things change we will be back down the year after again.
thought that goin down wud have been the kick up the arse that we needed but still same old same old.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 19, 2007, 03:49:30 PM
Slim we are still not at full pelt this year, and will struggle, the 2 other mcgourtys away at the end of the month. i hear Cunningham is away soon to the states.

i'd say Cargin still favourites for the Championship this year
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 19, 2007, 03:54:08 PM
who? Kevin and Ciaran going stateside?

their shoes will be filled with CJ, Kelly, Niblock. St galls the team 2 bt.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 19, 2007, 04:24:48 PM
yes

sean Kelly has not kicked ball all year

slim were you playing first game at milltown 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 19, 2007, 04:26:41 PM
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slim were you playing first game at milltown

Slim playing  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 19, 2007, 04:26:50 PM
could well of been, could well have got frozen in the showers too.

why?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on June 19, 2007, 04:28:24 PM
i heard niblock was for the u s of a also!! ;) ;)

cj straight back in trainin with the county fair play te him, an antrim gael thru an thru ::)

heard big tony convery and sean kelly are expected to link up with the squad.

maybe more to follow, what bout geek slim or even more so antrim will need a new sub goalie now that young kerr from galls has left for usa.
wonder what joe robb's doing for the summer!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 19, 2007, 04:33:40 PM
if you were in Division one ye'd know Joe Robb plays full forward 'sharrrrrrrrrkin son! Bones does goals for Kickems.

Ooor boy Devlin wont be near no county squad, why the fook wod he? look sweet goin up fir that oul shite after not bein asked b4.

donie know wat i'm talkin fitba wi you fir sir, yous boys is no goooodersss  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 19, 2007, 04:34:11 PM
St. Johns had a convincing win over Gort na Mona last night. I think there was 3/4 points in the end but as Slim reported about Cargin vs Portglenone, St. Johns were always in control and lead by 9 points with 3 minutes to go. Gort na Mona got a very lucky goal as the St. Johns 'keeper tried to let the ball go wide and it took a strange bounce and it slipped between him and the post. Then in the last minute a fight broke out with subs getting involved (adrian oliver who had been substituted minutes earlier got a card, don't know what colour though), everyone stopped except Michael Pollock who found himself with the ball on the 13 and he easily put it in the net. Strange goal.
3-09 to 2-08/9 the final score.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 19, 2007, 04:38:11 PM
no just called down for the second half you didn't have much to do our second team is made up of players who think they should be seniors and and other lads who wont play for the thirds

do yous have the same problem? our third team is top and and the craics better

showers yes rubbish what can i say? it's the same in our dressing room. plus the smell of the sewer. not good.

some boys from the senior team heading of for months holiday not the full summer
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 19, 2007, 04:41:48 PM
our showers are ket too, brutal altogether.

think we had bare 15 again your reserves, our 3rds wer playin at home. we had to play oor manager again youse. Luckily oor manager is Blondie Gallager  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on June 20, 2007, 09:50:11 AM
Slim,

Its a bit rich a Cargin man giving out about somebody elses showers, the facilities in toome are brutal, i've got third degree burns from dancing below a trickle of boiling water on sunday morning.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 20, 2007, 09:52:51 AM
if ye read back sur ye'll find i said oor showers are shite.

3rd degree burns ye say? its not like u 'sharrrrrrrkin hoors to wash!!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on June 20, 2007, 10:56:13 AM
sliim,

who u fancy for the o'cargin cup

will the mighty creggan take you's down a peg again!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 20, 2007, 10:59:04 AM
never know hi, stranger things havent happend!!

wont b goin up to watch ur game though, will arrive for our match instead of waiting around that kip. games shud b in whitehill anyhow, moneyglass field is away ti f**k. who unes play?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on June 20, 2007, 11:09:33 AM
the shams!

they had a decent recent agin glenravel at the weekend.
the logan bros have fairly helped them this year, paddy may not be the most mobile but he can still take a score.

i spose ur match is really the final anyhow, slim it not called the o'cargin cup for nething.
or maybe u's are not taking it seriously  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 20, 2007, 11:13:08 AM
we usually dnt take it serious but are this year simply cos its creggan and after their 'celebrations' followin ther league win over us, we think thers sum unfinished business!!

unes shod bt ballymena, logan couldn't run outta yer road 5 years ago ffs!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 21, 2007, 08:41:28 AM
Lads I dont get it....why does Tony Convery and Sean Kelly make themselves available for the Tommy Cooper Cup as reported in The Irish News today and not make themselves available in some way for the championship ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 21, 2007, 08:54:33 AM
attended Creggan vs St Galls up at the crooked pitch last night! St Galls won by a point but should have won by much more.

McGourty was mouthin at his own men again- if that twat played on oor team he'd av been scalped by now. Gaga straight red card for sinkin his nut into Mark Dougan b4 half time, come half time there was a bit of a kerfuffle with handbegs flyin everywhere, i think someone dropped ther lipstick in the middle of it. Creggan struggled again 14 men of st galls, Adrian Dougan should have been sent aff as well as he decided to have a stamp on some mans crigs (looked v sore tho not sure who it was).

ref was Eoin Quinn fray 'shhhhharrrrrrrrrkin and lost control of it in 1st half and the teams themselves cooled it down in the 2nd.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on June 21, 2007, 11:15:11 AM
straight red Slim?  were we better than we were against yourselves
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 21, 2007, 11:24:10 AM
dunno, hard to tell how you played as its near impossible to play on that crooked pitch. ye played 2nd half with 14 men and looked comfy so yeah, you did play a bit better. Niblock came off the bench in 2nd half and helped tho. straight red, used the head. dont no wat was said but i thot Gaga wasnt like that? Aidso also played and didnt again us. in hindsight ye shod have hammered 'em.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Uladh on June 21, 2007, 11:59:40 AM

Thought McGoarty was heading to the states?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 21, 2007, 12:13:29 PM
only on holiday apparently. the twat wz ther las nite anyway guernin at his team mates as he was on sunday. no sign of his younger brother.

on another note,

Sean Cavanagh, Dara O'Cinneide, 'top' players in 2days game dont get one tenth the publicity of these c***ts. i know Kenny the **** lives across the rd from them but to have them all over the back of the irish news every fookin day takes the piss. players who do fook all but whine and guern and play 1 game a year get more talk than real footballers!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 21, 2007, 04:29:35 PM
Cargin vs Creggan game cancelled

Creggan cancel this fixture for the 3rd time!!

i wonder why?  ;D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on June 22, 2007, 10:31:27 AM
Lads I dont get it....why does Tony Convery and Sean Kelly make themselves available for the Tommy Cooper Cup as reported in The Irish News today and not make themselves available in some way for the championship ??? ??? ???

Convery was a victim of Jody Gormley's failed "I know best - I'll crack the whip and sort a few of these experienced boys out whilst playing novices in central positions marking All-Stars in the championship" policy.

Kelly was in England doing the PGCE, and dn't make the required commitment, despite numerous approaches.  One need only look at how Stephen O'Neill's form dipped somewhat when he too was away in England and how Declan McCrossan also took the same option as Kelly. 

Once Kelly returned, he made himself available for the county, which was the correct thing to do.

Me, I'd melt the Tommy Cooper Cup down and fashion it into a new trophy in the shape of an All-Star trophy and give it to Paddy Bradley.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on June 22, 2007, 01:38:21 PM
Slim, was driving through Randalstown at 12.30, and would swear i saw a most prominent Creggan player getting on a bus, with approx 15-20 other lads. All with full kit bags, looked like a team headin off for the weekend, but not sure they were all GAA players, if you get my drift !
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stranworst on June 25, 2007, 09:24:07 PM
Slim, wind your f**king neck in.

Just stick to the thread and keep your jealousy of the McGourtys to yourself.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 26, 2007, 03:46:22 AM
Quote
Just stick to the thread and keep your jealousy of the McGourtys to yourself.
Slim must be the worst of the worst and the most stupid cnut ever if he is jealous of them.
By the way, if Antrim get past Kilkenny (IF) do you think CJ will be able to travel to London?
Do you think he will actually stay overnight?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on June 26, 2007, 09:57:23 AM
heard jody wanted the games this week called off because of match at weekend.
think this is the wrong way to go, get them played now instead of november,
there a long enough break comin up shortly for most teams.
 if antrim are worth anything they should beat kilkenny by at least 10pts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 26, 2007, 11:55:47 AM
how did Ballymena beat youz sir? must have been hopeless. we play them in the final on sunday night in portglenyin.

What are the views on the mitey Kickems withdrawing instead of playing us? just coz they had 2 men goin away on a weekend bender.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on June 26, 2007, 01:00:55 PM
aw slim sure u know ursel we're no goooooooddddeeeerrrrrsss.

threw it away and the ref wasnt great but cant blame him for kicking the wides.
j o'd was ref, one of our boys got a knock and was down injured he towel him to get up and stop faking.
our player broke his collar bone, nice bit of reffin our eoin cudnt even be as bad as that, what ye think slim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 26, 2007, 01:22:27 PM
no gooooooooooders shurely!

seems harsh on your boys but im sure theres another side to the story eh culch? and dont av me startin on young Quinn again- u21's wer robbed, is all i say.

oor boys wer away for a weekends trainin on the beach in donegal.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on June 27, 2007, 01:30:21 PM
heard thru the grapevine johnjoe's mate made a guest appearence at county trainin last nite along with sean kelly(not the fish and chip shop one, st galls) and tony convery! ;) ;)


is the fleadh on in kilkenny at the weekend!! ;D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 27, 2007, 01:39:09 PM
it could be the whiff of a run oot on Croker!!!! Everyone up ther knows the Tommy Cooper is a farce but stiil, its a chance to play in Croker.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 27, 2007, 02:16:55 PM
So who is all headed for the match in Kilkenny then? Slim, putting your support where your mouth is?
I am.

I plan to get into the full Saffron gear and try and slip into the 13 man blanket defence - the ref might not notice.

Who is John Joe's mate then that went to county training.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on June 27, 2007, 02:18:36 PM
Looks like there is a stronger panel for the Tommy Murphy than there was for the Championship  :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 27, 2007, 02:34:17 PM
wouldnt ye look fcukin sweet goin ti watch that shite away down there  :D

fook sake like, Kilkenny team wil likely b on the sauce the nite b4!!

besides, we're scheduled to win another O'Cahan cup on sunday.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 27, 2007, 03:00:29 PM
As I'm an Antrim fan...that's why I'll be going.

You criticise from your armchair and then revert to sitting in your big fat Toome bubble...a bubble that should be in fecking Derry anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 27, 2007, 03:23:58 PM
how shod it be in Doire sur?

so, its ok to expect normal fans to travel to the end of the country to watch Antrim play in a 3rd rate competition again the worst team in Ireland? get a f**king grip son. and the ginger whinger Gormley is wantin to call club games off cos of it? away and f**k.

kilkenny away, i'd say most of the players are debating even goin! ye buckin eejit ye  :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on June 27, 2007, 04:35:20 PM
john joe's mate wud be big mehall "duck eggs and blue moulded sodas" magill!!   :D





Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 27, 2007, 05:34:26 PM
Your clubmates are playing Slim. Your clubmate is captain.
Have a bit of f**king pride.
Not many will travel but don't try and belittle those that do.

A pretty full programme of games to this date....Jody has been better than some in the past.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens73 on June 27, 2007, 09:08:38 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/the_championship/6240778.stm

No need for anyone to travel, it's live on the BBC NI Website :D :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PrivatePile on June 27, 2007, 09:13:32 PM
Have to go with Slim on this one, "pride" ? maybe some of the players should have shown a bit more against Derry and they wouldnt be in this heap of shite competition, there should be a media ban put on the Eddie Murphy Cup and hopefully it will go away.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on June 27, 2007, 10:07:18 PM
I wonder how CJ will cope with the overnight stay in Kilkenny? Just a thought, maybe the oul boy or Shaws Rd could bring the bedtime stories book with them.....
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 28, 2007, 09:17:35 AM
K O'Boyle hospitalised with suspected dislocated showlder last night in Gort namona game. horrible blow for him, just gettin back really.

G O'Boyle sent off also.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 28, 2007, 09:43:06 AM
Can anyone fire the results up here from last night's games...again can't get on it at work.

Not sure if there was a lack of pride against Derry...a lack of quite a few others things fair enough.

Shame about Kevin O'Boyle.
G'OBoyle sent off for striking? Back for championship then?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on June 28, 2007, 10:07:52 AM
Wednesday 27th June 2007

Division 1 Football

St. Johns  2-6 2-14 Creggan Kickhams
Cargin  1-13 1-6 Gort Na Mona 
St. Pauls  3-9 1-13 St. Galls   
Dunloy  1-2 2-13 Portglenone 
 
Division 2 Football
   
St. Brigids B 1-10 0-6 Glenravel   
Rasharkin  1-7 2-7 St. Endas
Sarsfields  0-11 1-8 Aghagallon     
Davitts  1-4 2-13 Rossa   
All Saints  3-10 0-12 Mc Dermotts   

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 28, 2007, 10:48:28 AM
Cheers.

Handy enough wins for Creggan, Cargin and Portglenone. St Galls run close by St Pauls.

And Division 2...St Enda's must be going rightly to beat Rasharkin. Good wins for Ballymena and Rossa. St Brigids decent result against Glenravel.

Anyone at any of the games last night then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on June 28, 2007, 11:08:34 AM
as far as i can see St Galls wer more than run close- they wer beat!

St Pauls wont b the pushover a lot of wans think they wil b come c'ship time. the nxt few weeks they'll b startin to shape up. wont b an easy game for us.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on June 28, 2007, 11:23:54 AM
fcuk so they were...I don't function till lunchtime.
Great result for them.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on June 28, 2007, 05:03:07 PM
Headin off to Sligo tomorrow with the county representaties in the Feile Peil nOg, Sean Stinsons.

They are worthy county champions, as most who have seen them in action will agree.

In a tough group, division three, with eleven other teams, including the county champions of Monaghan, Sligo, Roscommon,westmeath, offaly, Louth, Fermanagh,Limerick, Carlow and Leitrim.

Will report back on their progress on Monday. Have a nice weekend!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Ruairi Og exile on July 02, 2007, 01:45:38 PM
Antrim 3-32 Kilkenny 1-0. I have dreamed about that score since I was a boy  ;D

Antrim win a football match by 38 points & nothing on this thread about it.

Burn the sticks
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on July 02, 2007, 01:52:15 PM
probably cos nobody really gives a flying fcuk about a trouncing of Kilkenny!

(a team which contained at least 1 player who didnt know he was playing until the morning of the game and hadnt played a Gaelic Football match in years and NEVER played for Kilkenny!!)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on July 02, 2007, 02:57:53 PM
I also see that a player who was not on the final U21 panel came on as a sub for Antrim.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 02, 2007, 03:06:25 PM
Pollock, D OHagan and MGaule came on.

Who's D O'Hagan - I assume that's the St Brigids boy? Gees I'd not have thought that boy was near county standard if it's the same boy, no harm to him..

M.Gault?? No idea who that is - anyone know??

Good to see Dougan back on the panel.(He was away wasn't he). He's a useful forward that boy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on July 02, 2007, 03:13:32 PM
MGaule should read M Magill, for certain. all subs bar 2 got on.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: CSC on July 02, 2007, 04:33:22 PM
Slim
I was on the hoganstand website and I see Cargin are getting a wee bit of criticism over their handling of young O'Boyle. Is it warranted?
When O'Boyle dislocated and broke his collarbone, was the challenges abnormal or were you surprised that O'Boyle got hurt?

Just interested, not throwing accusations at Cargin. I know that Darrell Martin went through hell for a couple of seasons due to a dislocated shoulder, but in the long run it made him a better player as he went through a rigorous strength development program that stood by him in later years. I think that the same is possible for Kevin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on July 02, 2007, 04:47:06 PM
Slim
I was on the hoganstand website and I see Cargin are getting a wee bit of criticism over their handling of young O'Boyle. Is it warranted?
When O'Boyle dislocated and broke his collarbone, was the challenges abnormal or were you surprised that O'Boyle got hurt?

Just interested, not throwing accusations at Cargin. I know that Darrell Martin went through hell for a couple of seasons due to a dislocated shoulder, but in the long run it made him a better player as he went through a rigorous strength development program that stood by him in later years. I think that the same is possible for Kevin

I see Slim has replied to those messages.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on July 03, 2007, 08:49:52 AM
Slim
I was on the hoganstand website and I see Cargin are getting a wee bit of criticism over their handling of young O'Boyle. Is it warranted?
When O'Boyle dislocated and broke his collarbone, was the challenges abnormal or were you surprised that O'Boyle got hurt?

Just interested, not throwing accusations at Cargin. I know that Darrell Martin went through hell for a couple of seasons due to a dislocated shoulder, but in the long run it made him a better player as he went through a rigorous strength development program that stood by him in later years. I think that the same is possible for Kevin


get a grip. the 'challenge' in the u21 final was more of an assault by a St Johns player. and his latest injury couldnt have been helped with weights, steroids, shoulder pads etc etc etc, it was just a very very unlucky incident! to put any blame on Cargin for this is the height of idiocy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on July 03, 2007, 09:43:22 AM
John Joe why are the Stintons playing in the grade 3 of the feile? Surely two clubs that join together are strong enough for the grade 1 level. Some achievment for Magherafelt. Best u14 team in Ireland
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: In the Onion Bag on July 03, 2007, 11:02:27 AM
Dear Antrim Gaels, -  pardon this intrusion by a Co Down hoore onto your thread but I need local North Antrim advice please. 

I help manage an average reserve football team (i.e. presently close to top of the East Down Reseve League).  We are planning a weekend residential symposium on the North Coast over then next fortnight.

The symposium is to better develop the players' understanding of the of finer social & cultural aspects of belonging to a GAA Club.  Although the trip will mainly focus on discussing the finer theory of the game, its role in the community, rules & referees, etc, etc we would also like to include an actual game against a club of similar standard.  Perhaps on the Friday eveing, Saturday or Sunday morning/afternoon.  We will be based on the north coast close to Balycastle.  Anyone know of any 'nearish' football clubs I could approach about a friendly?

Also, any advice on good 'GAA-minded' (hurling/football/Ir Music, anything really) pubs that we might include as part of the 'exploring the cultural aspects or our great Association' itinary. 
Local advice would also be useful on any establishments that are unlikely to match the cultural & learing needs our lads a would best be avoided.

Thanks for any help you can give.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on July 03, 2007, 11:08:22 AM
Max, Thats one to ask the Feile Committee. As far as i know it has somehting to do with the Division your county played int he previous year.  If a team from a county wins a division one year i think they are in a division higher the next year.
Stinsons actually beat Magherafelt in a friendly before the Feile Finals but you can't read too much into that.

Onion Bag, Ballycastle may be your best bet for a friendly in that area.  They play in Division 6.  Dunloy of Glenravel would probably be the other closest teams but they play in Division 1 and 2.

A website that might be of interest: http://www.glensofantrimsportsretreat.com/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on July 03, 2007, 11:11:21 AM
Dear Antrim Gaels, -  pardon this intrusion by a Co Down hoore onto your thread but I need local North Antrim advice please. 

I help manage an average reserve football team (i.e. presently close to top of the East Down Reseve League).  We are planning a weekend residential symposium on the North Coast over then next fortnight.

The symposium is to better develop the players' understanding of the of finer social & cultural aspects of belonging to a GAA Club.  Although the trip will mainly focus on discussing the finer theory of the game, its role in the community, rules & referees, etc, etc we would also like to include an actual game against a club of similar standard.  Perhaps on the Friday eveing, Saturday or Sunday morning/afternoon.  We will be based on the north coast close to Balycastle.  Anyone know of any 'nearish' football clubs I could approach about a friendly?

Also, any advice on good 'GAA-minded' (hurling/football/Ir Music, anything really) pubs that we might include as part of the 'exploring the cultural aspects or our great Association' itinary. 
Local advice would also be useful on any establishments that are unlikely to match the cultural & learing needs our lads a would best be avoided.

Thanks for any help you can give.

my club (Cargin) are crying out for reserve friendlies at present. you could play us on the Friday evening and head on up to the North Coast afterwards.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 03, 2007, 12:11:10 PM
Dunloy and Glenravel reserves play in division 6 as well as Ballycastle so one of those three would likely be your best bet.

Cargin reserves would beat a lot of senior teams so unless you're of a particularly high standard I would stay away from them. By high I would say you'd need to be top 3 or 4 reserve teams in Down. No idea what standard East Down reserve league is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on July 03, 2007, 12:15:29 PM
They couldn't beat bellaghy 3rds :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: The Real SlimShady on July 03, 2007, 12:26:05 PM
exactly! tho they had a lot missin by all accounts
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 03, 2007, 12:28:14 PM
From what I read not too sure Bellaghy 1sts could beat Bellaghy 3rds!!

Scoring forward, leaders and all sorts in that 3rd team!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 07, 2007, 06:47:44 PM
I hear McGourty hit a hat-trick against London today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on July 07, 2007, 08:08:05 PM
I hear McGourty hit a hat-trick against London today.

A helluva an achievement in anyones books...... ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 10, 2007, 07:08:19 PM
in fairness maximus bellaghy are hardly setting the world alight this season
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on July 11, 2007, 12:12:56 AM
What more would ye want at this time of the year...second in the league and the championship starts proper for us at the end of August. Hard to keep a good thing down :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 11, 2007, 09:24:14 AM
if you qualify.a bellaghy man i know said if we dont beat kilrewa we should give up...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 11, 2007, 05:46:12 PM
Seagan An Diomais - can any Saffron Gaels tell me much about this successful dual club from the early 1900s. I know the great Harry Sheehan played for them (today's archive section of the Irish News letters - although they have it as Sean a' Diomas). Where were they based? Any info would be great.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on July 11, 2007, 06:02:19 PM
Seagan An Diomais - can any Saffron Gaels tell me much about this successful dual club from the early 1900s. I know the great Harry Sheehan played for them (today's archive section of the Irish News letters - although they have it as Sean a' Diomas). Where were they based? Any info would be great.
I'm not sure if I'm right on this one but I think they were based in the lower Falls and I think that St. Galls may have come from them.
They won a number of county titles in hurling and football in the early 1900s.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 11, 2007, 06:39:58 PM
i'd imagine he is related the the Sheehan's from Naomh Gall.

there are still Sheehans playing football and hurling also the current senior manager is a Sheehan. i think they (sheehan) were some of the founder members of Naomh Gall
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 11, 2007, 06:48:38 PM
Yes, he is a relation (grandfather) to some of the Sheehans at St Galls. I suppose the Galls link makes sense, although the history section states that St Galls were founded in 1910, with no mention of the 'Seans' as the IN calls them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on July 12, 2007, 01:29:11 PM
http://antrim.gaa.ie/history/senior-championship-winners/
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on July 14, 2007, 01:23:36 PM
Anyone know if the Clare match is on the radio anywhere?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: FermPundit on July 14, 2007, 03:03:42 PM
GAA coverage on Clare FM. Updates from all games.

http://www.clarefm.ie/

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on July 14, 2007, 03:33:02 PM
Antrim win 0-10 to 1-11, listened to it on the above station, thanks FP. the commentators were full of praise for the way Antrim played and mentioned that Antrim were very professional in their approach.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on July 23, 2007, 09:49:09 AM
This thread has died a death.

Some interesting results over the weekend in the intermediate championship.
Thought Moneyglass would be too strong for Glenavy.
Any posters at the matches?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on July 23, 2007, 01:30:47 PM
Anyone post all the results from the intermediate championship up here.

Cheers
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on July 23, 2007, 02:49:34 PM
Glenravel     1-14    0-4   Mc Dermotts
Aldergrove    1-6   0-14   All Saints
Aghagallon    1-14    2-6   Davitts
Moneyglass    2-10   3-10   Glenavy
Dunloy              2-15    1-10   Sarsfields
Ardoyne     1-9    1-6   St. Teresas
Rossa               1-11     1-11   St. Endas

That leaves

1 Aghagallon v Rossa/St Enda's
2 All Saints v Tir na nOg
3 Glenavy v Glenravel
4 Dunloy v Ardoyne

Semi's:
4 v 2
3 v 1


Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on July 23, 2007, 03:01:14 PM
Glenravel     1-14    0-4   Mc Dermotts
Aldergrove    1-6   0-14   All Saints
Aghagallon    1-14    2-6   Davitts
Moneyglass    2-10   3-10   Glenavy
Dunloy              2-15    1-10   Sarsfields
Ardoyne     1-9    1-6   St. Teresas
Rossa               1-11     1-11   St. Endas

That leaves

1 Aghagallon v Rossa/St Enda's
2 All Saints v Tit na nOg
3 Glenavy v Glenravel
4 Dunloy v Ardoyne

Semi's:
4 v 2
3 v 1




I dont think the Whitehill lads will be too happy calln them that rash!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on July 23, 2007, 03:54:55 PM

A freudian slip...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on July 23, 2007, 04:34:28 PM
You wud have to fancy a Dunloy v Glenravel final!!

wat does anyone think about the senior championship this weekend?

galls shud put the lamhs to the slaughter, pardon the pun.

cargin & st pauls shud be an interesting one!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Chamonmofo on July 25, 2007, 11:21:19 AM
i fancy st pauls to cause an upset on sunday... for a change i think cargin will be intimidated and st pauls have revenge on their mind for the league result earlier in the year... Justy tomas and michael mccann wont get the room they are used to
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on July 25, 2007, 07:37:01 PM
Rossa v St. Enda's called off a couple of hours before the game.
Does anybody know why?
Apparently the Referee showed up not knowing that it had been called off.
 ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on July 25, 2007, 08:02:48 PM
Just saw on Hoganstand that someone posted,
'Any truth in the rumour that Rossa are refusing to play their IFC replay tonight?'
 ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 26, 2007, 01:46:53 PM
Also saw that on account of this Rossa have been thrown out and St Endas progress to the next round. Can anyone shed any light on this rumour?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 26, 2007, 03:55:58 PM
think the game against The lamhs tomorrow will be a lot tougher than people think. we have not really clicked this year good numbers down the last few times at training but hunger seems to be still missing, hope i'm wrong and i'll have a nice pint in Casement afterwards.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on July 26, 2007, 04:04:35 PM
It should be good tomorrow night.
Lamh Dhearg were poor at the start of the league but are coming into it a lot more now. They can be a good team on their day.
St. Galls, well they're St. Galls. We always expect them to be good but as Milltown said, they haven't seemed to click this year.
An interesting one.
How do you expect yous will line out Milltown?
Quote
i'll have a nice pint in Casement afterwards.

So will I.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 26, 2007, 04:13:53 PM
there wont be any big surprises here, the team has picked itself for the past 4/5 years. two mcgourty's still away but everybody back and fit, sean kelly back and looking very sharp at training and thats a big plus,

 defence will very hard to win ball from and up front we have the potential but i'm afraid this game will end up like the hurling game on Sunday, a game plenty of with frees and stop starts. the two teams hate each other for some reason so expect a couple of scuffles.

heard a rumour Paddy Cunningham is looking to play for another team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on July 26, 2007, 04:16:52 PM
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heard a rumour Paddy Cunningham is looking to play for another team
Dunno but I heard he recently got engaged. If so, Congratulations.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on July 26, 2007, 04:34:43 PM
Quote
heard a rumour Paddy Cunningham is looking to play for another team
I have just heard that rumour myself. The rumour that I heard is that he is to become a St. Galls man.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on July 27, 2007, 12:34:06 AM
I will no longer be able to enjoy a pint in Casement tomorrow night.
Or even see the game. Fricking Simpsons movie with her indoors.
Not even in Curleys i.e I won't be able to shoot up for the 2nd half. :-[ >:(
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on July 27, 2007, 12:36:19 AM
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heard a rumour Paddy Cunningham is looking to play for another team
I have just heard that rumour myself. The rumour that I heard is that he is to become a St. Galls man.

What? Is the travelling getting too much for him? Doesn't say much about the person does it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on July 27, 2007, 12:39:06 AM
I have it on dvd already-i'll lend u it if u want and u can watch it after the game
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on July 27, 2007, 12:56:11 AM
Gold, I don't think that that will cut the mustard with herself but thanks anyway.

On the Paddy Cunningham issue, it may well be just a rumour at this stage but this is what I heard.
I would be disappointed if he did transfer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 27, 2007, 09:07:57 AM
people in belfast clubs transfer all the time, internal politics/fighting it's difficult for players to enjoy playing hurling /football for a club when you dont get on with the team.

I'm not in favour of moving from club to club but does he just stop playing? he'd be a big player for any club, not sure if he's coming to Naomh Gall though, if he's leaving at all that is. these rumours can have a life of their own  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on July 27, 2007, 09:48:32 AM
people in belfast clubs transfer all the time, internal politics/fighting it's difficult for players to enjoy playing hurling /football for a club when you dont get on with the team.

I'm not in favour of moving from club to club but does he just stop playing? he'd be a big player for any club, not sure if he's coming to Naomh Gall though, if he's leaving at all that is. these rumours can have a life of their own  ;)

These people who tranfer all the time milltown would not do so if there was a chance of success at the club he/she was at. The GAA is about the club not the self. Boys who transfer more often than not are in it for themselves and do nothing for the GAA in the long run. It's very easy to manufacture "understandable situations" which makes it easy for a player to walk away from his club. I've no doubt these "reasons" (if it is indeed more than a rumour) will be bandied about to justfiy things

On a side note milltown....what benefits do you think the country outsiders (raff, mccrory etc etc) brought to your senior set up. Did they instill a different ethic in the team/club compared to say an all city group of players would have brought?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on July 27, 2007, 09:59:49 AM
people in belfast clubs transfer all the time, internal politics/fighting it's difficult for players to enjoy playing hurling /football for a club when you dont get on with the team.

I'm not in favour of moving from club to club but does he just stop playing? he'd be a big player for any club, not sure if he's coming to Naomh Gall though, if he's leaving at all that is. these rumours can have a life of their own  ;)

These people who tranfer all the time milltown would not do so if there was a chance of success at the club he/she was at. The GAA is about the club not the self. Boys who transfer more often than not are in it for themselves and do nothing for the GAA in the long run. It's very easy to manufacture "understandable situations" which makes it easy for a player to walk away from his club. I've no doubt these "reasons" (if it is indeed more than a rumour) will be bandied about to justfiy things

On a side note milltown....what benefits do you think the country outsiders (raff, mccrory etc etc) brought to your senior set up. Did they instill a different ethic in the team/club compared to say an all city group of players would have brought?

Have to agree Skull, as Declan Browne said last night there were overtures for him to play for different counties but if he couldnt win an All Ireland with Tipp he wasnt interested. That is the great thing about the GAA,playing with the fellas you grew up with. I know if i went to play for Cushendall and won an All Ireland Club medal it wouldnt mean anything to me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 27, 2007, 10:47:15 AM
the 'outsiders' that came to our club are just that, outsiders, very rarely would they drink or have friends from within the club.

they have come from the contry to belfast for work and joined a club to save the journey home each week. some ( like Rafferty) go back to their home teams and play at the junior side of things 

the sucess of our football team has a lot more to do with the structures that were in place before these lads got to senior, four players on the all ireland team would have been classed as Country men the rest all played at juvenile level.

the hurlers well thats a different story all together, they are all Galls men born and bred into the team. the craic compared to the footballers is a world apart, maybe a reason why we have not made the break through.

so to answer your point country men do have a different attitude to training and looking after themselves than city folk, but during that run the work ethic was no different bewteen the city boys and country lads, Rafferty had a affilation with the club having played for 8/9 years with us. so he was committed

hurlers very rarely transfer between clubs footballers are very fickle
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 27, 2007, 11:08:17 AM
To be honest moving club, especially within such close proximity, says a lot about a person with loyalties etc.

With regard to Rafferty, McRory etc. at St Galls those boys have a long way to travel and their decisions are understandable but there are a vast number of boys from within Belfast who have shifted between clubs for what it seems is just glory. You talk to boys from smaller clubs like for example O'Donnells and they had very good players jump ship for glory.

Realistically Cunningham will win nothing major with Lamh Dhearg. The only reason Lamh Dhearg are as good as they are is because of Cunningham. They are better than most in Antrim but are no world beaters either. Even saying that though they're his club he grew up with them etc. and should stay. I hope the rumours are wrong for two reasons 1) it would make me think a lot less of him and 2) st galls would become very very hard to beat with him and young mcgourty in the FF line.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SeanSouth on July 27, 2007, 11:23:17 AM
I go up and down to training from Belfast, 100 mile round trip. People that dont know much about the GAA always ask why i dont play for a team in Belfast, if i ever won anything with them it would mean absolutely nothing to me.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on July 28, 2007, 01:23:59 AM
was at the LD v St Galls game tonight-

st galls won by 7--  2-6-0-5

Aidso gallagher was sent off 5mins before half time with the sides level--galls scored a point to go in 1-2--0-4 ahead

LD were useless in 2nd half--if they couldnt beat a team minus aidso, kev and kieran mcgourt--then they'll never beat them --they couldnt beat the back door

LD's didnt have one forward on the field, not one--difference between the teams was galls had kark stewart and CJ in forward line and LD had nothin bar maybe micko.

Most of LD's startin forwards are defenders in my opinion--they had most of the ball but just went sideways when they were 40yards out before hoofing the ball wide or not even wide and hittin the corner flag.

for me Karl Stew was the differnece--first to the ball, deadly from frees-was either taken down or he scored--leathal
Title: Antrim SFC Preliminary Shock
Post by: aontroim on July 29, 2007, 08:40:29 PM
Cargin 0-6 v 1-4 St. Paul's - heard there was a big shock in tonight's game with St. Pauls snatching the win with a late penalty  :o
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 30, 2007, 09:01:32 AM
does this result make St Pauls the favourites? can we have a match report from mister Slim Shady, not sure if there are any real 'Shaws Road' men on the board.

the game against Lamhs on friday night was terrible, Lamhs played 2 men on CJ he still scored 2-2, in the secondhalf they still played the extra man in defence when they were a man up!!! so they had an extra man on cj and Karl Stewart. pure madness they scored one point i think in the second half.

we were dreadful in the first half with 15 men but played a lot better with 14 men, Aidso was silly, Micko had a wee sly dig at him and a rush of blood saw Aidso off. Micko for a big lad fairly threw himself to the ground.

we have put them out of both championships. Micko made a fool of himself after the match by coming over to the crowd and inviting the Galls supporters down for a fight!!!!!!!!!!! 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on July 30, 2007, 10:13:36 AM
Cargin gone...where is Slim Shady when you need him :D :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 30, 2007, 11:07:44 AM
0-6 to 1-4 and the weather wasn't bad yesterday either - hardly a prolific affair!

Looks like St Galls could walk this now especially as they have Kevin and Kieran McGourty to come back. St Pauls have a bad record of late against St Galls.

Micko has a lot of ability at football and hurling but if he doesn't buck his attitude up he will fast go the same road as Kevin McGourty. He should take a leaf out of his brother Ciaran's(Herron I mean here) book who has always let his hurling, and football when playing football, do the talking. A man with a lot of ability who by continually doing nothing but acting the b*****s is letting it go to waste. The man spends more time in club matches moaning at referees than playing football. He didn't do that in the sigerson for he knew McGuckin would haul him straight off.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on July 30, 2007, 11:45:08 AM
Won't go into a full match report but suffice to say that the Cargin St Pauls match was a pretty dire affair all round. Anyone in attendance from St Galls and to a lesser extend Creggan must be rubbing their hands.

The weather was not far off perfect to be honest, a bit of damp on the ground but a decent enough pitch at Ahoghill and a slight breeze.

The standard was pretty shocking all round (with the exception of Michael McCann who, for about 15 minutes in the 2nd half, lit the game up with a few great catches and by simply taking more than one second before hoofing the ball away).

Cargin were most definitely the superior team, better on the ball and better skills generally but I think they became complacent with everyone thinking someone else was going to step up and stick over a couple. They were too interested in diving (Eoin O'Neill looked like a sniper had taken him out a couple of times) and their big lump of a midfielder (Eddie?) was too interested in hitting boys late/off the ball. The one time he actually went on a solo and struck a pass through in the first half it was a great ball through from which they got a point.

Mc Greevy pulled off a couple of great saves in the first half.

I can't see St Pauls troubling either St Galls/Creggan to be honest. They were pretty limited on the ball. In fariness to them they were tough tackling and crowded Cargin out a few times but outside of that they didn't offer much.
I think it was Joe O'Neill who came on for them and he added a bit of class that had been lacking.

Someone said to me after it it throws the draw wide open. It doesn't. It just means St Galls are that one step nearer.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on July 30, 2007, 12:19:47 PM
Milltown....I hear the St Galls and Lamh Dhearg boys were boxing in the town on Friday night after the match. Anyone shed any light?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on July 30, 2007, 04:06:54 PM
I heard a St. Galls man took a bit of a hiding from a couple of Lamh Dhearg men.
Micko is a d***head. In last years semi final (I think) against St. Johns, he was at that same s**t. He even hit St. Johns manager Andy Mc Callan a punch.
A complete mouth piece and has a dirty stroke in him too. I remember when he was U14, his da stopped him playing for a while after he pulled a vicious stroke on someone in a match. He had a run in with Joe Mc Caffrey from Rossa two years ago too.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 30, 2007, 04:31:06 PM
yes aidso got a bit of a digging from a crowd from Lamhs outside TG's some of our lads were distracted by the chippy van and didn't see it untill he was felled. they all got stuck in then cops came broke up fight and one of the lamhs men punched the cop (the comon enemy) and was duly arrested, spent night in cells.

thats what happens when you knock a team out of both championships in a week.

although i find it a bit crap that teams will bring their fights off the field, this is certainly not a belfast thing, maybe the county boys knock lumps out of themselves but it would not be comon here. but there seems to be bad blood between these teams
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on July 30, 2007, 05:13:03 PM
"Maybe the country boys". Wind your neck in.

It was probably because the Lamhs are in effect from the country that is happened?!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SeanSouth on July 30, 2007, 09:41:25 PM

thats what happens when you knock a team out of both championships in a week.

Surely Lamh Dhearg still have to play another 3 championship games?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on July 31, 2007, 12:06:07 AM
although i find it a bit crap that teams will bring their fights off the field, this is certainly not a belfast thing, maybe the county boys knock lumps out of themselves but it would not be comon here. but there seems to be bad blood between these teams

Not normal for you to shit stir milltown? Did you fall out with the wife?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on July 31, 2007, 02:40:44 AM
In fairness, I can see where milltown row is coming from. In Belfast all "GAA heads" know each other, go out on the town together and generally get on well together. No matter what club you are from, off the pitch, everyone can slag each other and have serious discussion about the games. When Rossa won the the championship, half of St. Johns were in their club enjoying the craic no matter what hatred they have for each other. St Galls won the football the same day and they were up in Rossa and vice versa.
Milltown row is not having a dig at the country teams but there is a difference. I look at it as a "War of the buttons" scenario. When you grow up in one town/village, you are really against the towns/villages that are around you. Therefore when the country ones are out for a night, you have a Dunloy crowd, a Loughguile crowd, a Ballycastle crowd and a Cushendall crowd etc and fights take place between them all.
In Belfast, you are a Sarsfields man, a Rossa man, a St. Galls man, a St. Johns man, a Lamh Dhearg man, a Gort na Mona man etc but that doesn't mean anything for the reason that your lifetime best mate next door is not from the same club as you. In Belfast, if a fight breaks out on the night of a championship match, you are as likely to take a dig from someone in your own club (who is best mates with the boy you started fighting with) than someone from the other club. But usually common sense prevails because there are so many mutual friends.
Well that's what I think anyway.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on July 31, 2007, 08:38:57 AM
I hear what you are saying hardstation but it could have been said without bring country teams into it (hence why I thought he was stiirring...which I might add is not milltowns form).
Can't deny that fights between crowds from different villages has taken place on nights out as tribalism does play a part once the first dig between two drunks is thrown, but I wouldn't be too quick to say that they were all GAA related scurmishes. You might as well blame the parish churches for having some responsibility as well if we are going down that road. Most times fights just start between two d**kheads (well one at least) with too many drinks or testesterone in their blood and theres nothing voices of reason can do about it other than pull them apart, but if a crowd of GAA members take into one GAA member from a rival club then that is a a much more sinister scenario.
I can also tell you that Dunloy members have travelled to Cushendall/Cargin/Ahoghill after their championship successes over the years and we ourselves have been visited by Cushendall/Ballycastle/Cushendun/Loughiel/Rasharkin/Armoy when we have had success. Dunloy even travelled over to loughgiel with the volunteer cup the first couple of times we won the championship and were warmly recieved by everyone so the country clubs celebrate with other clubs successes the same as youse do in belfast
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on July 31, 2007, 09:39:36 AM
Was not having a dig at the country boys, your right skull not my form, I’d like more Belfast clubs to have that Parish togetherness, and we would win more Championships if we did. I had asked a country man from work before I posted on the form; again this is just from what he said.

Hardstation was on the money with his thoughts. So if boys are annoyed I’ll take it back. It wrangles me about what happened though. It could have been a lot worse for the lad in question had other lads not weighed in as the cops were there but failed to move in.

My point is this, whistle goes that’s it that’s the way it’s been for years, now we have people throwing themselves to the ground (ok as I get older I’m falling a lot more, age thing) but looking to get people sent off it’s just not GAA. You only have to look at how Dublin got on against Laois. 

A short story on the going to clubs afterwards (championship finals) we played McDermott’s in the Junior hurling final a few years ago and in the 7 minute of injury time we scored a goal to win by a point. Mc Dees had their kids on the pitch with flags thinking they had won; McDees went into changing rooms and wreck the place. We were in the club afterwards feeling good, but after a while we headed down to the Macs, they took us in and free beer and banter, no problems. The following year they beat us in the final and invited us all down big party free drinks and a good night. That’s why I find the going ons strange and out of character for Belfast clubs
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on July 31, 2007, 10:12:01 AM
WHERE IS SLIM SHADY :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 31, 2007, 11:22:13 AM
Anyone for croker on saturday?

It's all very quiet. I , for one, am looking forward to seeing the footballers get a game in croker. It'll be the first time I've ever seen them there.

Any predictions? Wicklow will be fit and up for it with Micko about. They'll be hard to beat but sure a few goals from CJ might do the trick...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on July 31, 2007, 02:21:20 PM
Hard one to call for Saturday. Wicklow won earlier in the year but suppose that doesn't mean that much now come "championship" time (I have been asking friends from down south for the last few weeks are they off to see Antrim in the All Ireland final...much confusion).

Hopefully there is a bit of support out there for them. I'll be there anyway. Anyone else?

As regards CJ am not jumping on the bandwagon just yet...but he certainly has the makings.
Heard a comedy story about him v Portglenone in a recent league game. St Galls down by a point and he lands out to the referee.
GOD/CJ "How long left ref?"
REF "About 3 minutes"
GOD/CJ "Thats long enough for me".
He promptly bangs over two points and St Galls win the game.
Heard that from a Portglenone fella who was playing.
Comedy.

Though I am not sure for definite I think Slim may have been playing for Cargin on Sunday. Hard one to take. The game should have been won a long time before the penaly at the end.


PS for what its worth I do agree with your general sentiment Hardstation as well...have always generally been impressed that the Galls/Johnies/Rossa boys are often seen out together and watching matches together. That wouldn't generally happen with most country clubs. But in agreement with Skull no need to bring the country boys in on this incident.
Hope that's the end of it
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on July 31, 2007, 02:29:03 PM
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Though I am not sure for definite I think Slim may have been playing for Cargin on Sunday
I was going to ask this.
I heard someone talking about the game and he said "I don't know what thon Cargin 'keeper was playing at". He was talking about the penalty. I think he was talking about giving away the penalty rather than the attempted save.
Slim automatically came to mind.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on July 31, 2007, 03:15:31 PM
Wasn't Slim in goals - was the normal Cargin keeper who was playing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 01, 2007, 11:10:47 AM
WHERE IS SLIM SHADY?                                                                                               WHERE IS SLIM SHADY?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Chamonmofo on August 01, 2007, 02:24:27 PM
what about the match on sunday.. cargin very gracious in defeat... however they were far to cocky... dealtach johnston is an arse... laughinh through the whole match... no laughinh now hey boy are ya... i am first to admit that our performance going forward was poor.... but we did what we had to do to win!! our style of play willl be totally different against Gort na Mona... noamh pol abu
Title: TMC Final
Post by: aontroim on August 01, 2007, 02:56:02 PM
Team for Saturday - few prodigal sons have returned

1.  Sean McGreevy - St. Pauls
2.  Paul Close - Rossa
3.  Paul Doherty - St. Marys Rasharkin
4.  James Loughrey - St Brigids
5.  Sean Kelly - St. Galls
6.  Eoin O’Neill - Erins Own Cargin
7.  Justin Crozier - Erins Own Cargin
8.  Joe Quinn - St. Pauls
9.  Darrell Martin - Kickhams Creggan
10. Aodhan Gallagher - St. Galls
11. Kevin Niblock - St. Galls
12. Kevin Brady - St. Ergnat’s Moneyglass
13. Ciaran Close - Erins Own Cargin
14. Michael McCann - Erins Own Cargin
15. Conor McGourty - St. Galls

16. John Finucane - Lamh Dhearg
17. Gavin Bell - Rossa
18. Sean McVeigh - All Saints Ballymena
19. Mark Dougan - Kickhams Creggan
20. Michael Magill - Tir Na nóg Randalstown
21. Conor McGoldrick - St. Teresa’s
22. Mickey Rea - St. Joseph Glenavy
23. Paddy Logan - All Saints Ballymena
24. Brendan Hasson - St. Marys Rasharkin
25. Liam Carland - St. Pauls
26. Michael Pollock - Gort Na Mona
27. Declan O’Hagan - St. Brigids
28. Colin Brady - St. Galls
29. Tony Convery - Portglenone
30 Leon Bonnes - Kickhams Creggan
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 01, 2007, 03:37:27 PM
Paul Close corner back? Some Tom Foolery on the go here?

Personally I think Sean McVeigh is a much better option than Joe Quinn.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 01, 2007, 03:56:17 PM
Paul Close corner back?? Has he ever even played there before in his life??

I'd have thought Sean McVeigh is hard done by not to be playing and personally I don't think Eoin O'Neill cuts it at this level but all that aside not really too many surprise. Glad to see Gallagher isn't suspended for this one as it'd be a shame for him to miss out.

I would expect there to be a few positional switches before the start of the game or have Wicklow got some flying machine of a corner forward tha they want Scoose to take care of??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on August 01, 2007, 04:20:10 PM
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I would expect there to be a few positional switches before the start of the game or have Wicklow got some flying machine of a corner forward tha they want Scoose to take care of??

That's what I was thinking. He'll need a map to find where corner back is.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 01, 2007, 04:40:14 PM
ok paul close not a corner back but will we win with this team? looks strong enough and Sean Kelly played well against the Lamhs and CJ was a class apart, will the Cargin boys be up for the match considering the defeat to St Pauls?

and where is Slim? must be on Holiday :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on August 01, 2007, 04:46:36 PM
That's a strong enough team. As strong as we have available.
It's strange how Michael Pollock didn't make the U21 panel but makes the senior panel.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 01, 2007, 04:49:31 PM
in Antrim it was never really about how good you were, it was who liked you, personally.

have they had any challenge games lately or what has training been like?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on August 01, 2007, 07:03:22 PM
I hope there is some sort of civic reception arranged when our lads beat the mighty men from Wicklow, maybe an open top bus tour up the Andytown road finishing at Casement. Anything less would be a total insult to the players and their achievement in beating Kilkenny, London, Outer Mongolia, Rathlin Island and Clare.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on August 01, 2007, 07:51:37 PM
I hope there is some sort of civic reception arranged when our lads beat the mighty men from Wicklow, maybe an open top bus tour up the Andytown road finishing at Casement. Anything less would be a total insult to the players and their achievement in beating Kilkenny, London, Outer Mongolia, Rathlin Island and Clare.

I sense a little sarcasm here Balboa, not a big fan then?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on August 01, 2007, 08:10:36 PM
I hope there is some sort of civic reception arranged when our lads beat the mighty men from Wicklow, maybe an open top bus tour up the Andytown road finishing at Casement. Anything less would be a total insult to the players and their achievement in beating Kilkenny, London, Outer Mongolia, Rathlin Island and Clare.

I sense a little sarcasm here Balboa, not a big fan then?

I just think the competition is a load of bollocks and does not benefit anyone. I think when Kilkenny entered the competition it lost whatever little credibility it had.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 02, 2007, 08:35:13 AM
a bit like the Christy ring cup and Rackard cup then :-\
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on August 02, 2007, 09:30:18 AM
a bit like the Christy ring cup and Rackard cup then :-\

I think the Rackard & Ring have probably more to offer,especially this year. This was Armagh's first Ulster Championship in years and they have now a final in Croke Park so there is obviously good work being done & the Ring & Rackard involve teams that do not play in their provincial championship so the extra games are a bonus.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 02, 2007, 10:19:41 AM
Where is Slim Shady?                                       Where is Slim Shady?[[
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on August 02, 2007, 10:23:45 AM
rocky, the competition maybe is treated as a pile of horse manure by most, some in other counties dont even know the final is on this weekend or who is playing.
we are in it for a reason, we play div 4 football next year.
but jody gormley and the senior panel are using it to try and improve themselves and fair dues they have got their big day out in croker, how many of us can say theyve been there, done it and got the t-shirt.
and IF they beat wicklow, which i hope to god they do, but i wudnt underestimate any mick o'dwyer team, they get a trip to america.
so tell me if you were on the county panel would you want to play in tommy murphy cup ?

NEWSFLASH

There has been a sighting of one white cocasian male, who goes by the name of The Real Slim Shady!
He was last seen entering a cinema in the toome area, wearing a Homer Simpson mask! ;D ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on August 02, 2007, 10:27:10 AM
"A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step..." 8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 02, 2007, 10:29:37 AM
I think that Jody deserves great credit for getting the Antrim players to have the interest to play and win this competion. Winning breeds confidence and creates an atmosphere of progress which other less interested players who have good ability might want to connitt to properly to Antrim advantage. Hope they win.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on August 02, 2007, 10:52:06 AM
did my eyes deceive me, max hopes antrim win!  :o

antrim have a good group of dedicated players who have been training since oct or nov time, this is their reward for their committment, lets hope it pays off.
i dont agree with certain players being back on the panel, just because they thought their was a chance of glory. the like of mark dummy runs dougan an big mihall duck eggs an blue moulded sodas magill. they undoubtedly have the talent, but i personally think they're only there for the good time.
but its up to jody to decide that.

also max i hope derry get tore into those scummy bigheaded dubs, i would be glad to see them gettin put out. they think because they have won 3 leinster titles in a row they are world beaters. they in my mind are not unbeatable in croke park.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on August 02, 2007, 10:56:09 AM
Agree 100% with Maximus, OK the Tommy Murphy does not set the world alight but don't forget we're in it becasue we're a Div 4 team!  I've been championship games where the match was there to be won by Antrim and we ended up losing by 3 or 4 points...one of the reasons IMHO was that we weren't used to winning.  We need to gid rid of the glorious failure mindset and build a squad used to winning and the TMC is as good a place to start as any.  I remind people of the Mickey Harte mantra that "We try to win every competition we're in".
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Edge of the Square on August 02, 2007, 11:30:04 AM
I have to say, its great news to see boys like Magill and Dougan back on the panel. (Just wish McGourty was there too! :o ;)). Coming up to championship time v derry you'd hardly have knew one player on the bench bar the lads from Antrims Division 1 clubs. I know Magill isnt a Division 1 player but hes already proved his class v Fermanagh and in the National League campaign of 2006 that preceeded that game. Basically, Antrim need the best players from their top flight clubs in their team. Unfortunately after Division 1, there is nothing left to pick from, no Stevie Macs in the Saffron county, just wannabes who are happy collecting the tracksuit and a 10 min appearance at the end of a meaningless national League game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: give her long on August 02, 2007, 11:51:18 AM
What is quite apparent culchy1 is that the fact that dougan and magill are there hurts you in some way or you have some sort of infactuation with them.  Perhaps you are below them in the subs list?????.  Edge of the square made a good point - if them two lads being there have stopped two players getting their tracksuits then what has the gaa come too.  The lads are there for ability,  'dummy runs' and 'duck eggs' may not be the best players in the county but they are in the top three at least.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on August 02, 2007, 12:11:31 PM
 Intermediate Football Championship

Aghagallon  3-13 1-21 St. Endas 

Serious high scoring match last night if correct, St Endas play either us or Glenavy in the semi final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on August 02, 2007, 12:26:41 PM
No one has ever doubted Magill or Dougan`s ability. Personally I`m delighted to have them back, and I think if we are going to beat Wicklow, they will be needed at some stage in the match. I`d say both were a bit careless with the committment thing earlier in the year, and with lessons learned, Antrim football will be a lot better for their inclusion. Definitely two excellent talents.

Well done to Jody and good luck to all involved on Saturday. It wont be easy, but lets hope we win, and put down a marker for next season. Will be kicking every ball with you!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Well on August 03, 2007, 08:36:40 AM
Intermediate Football Championship

Aghagallon 3-13 St Enda's 1-21

Was indeed the correct score, although extra time was played.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 03, 2007, 11:33:27 AM
Not much comment on the tommy murphy cup here.

I have to say that I'm looking forward to seeing the footballers play in croke park. I know this is perceived as a "mickey mouse" competition but I think Jody has done well to keep focus in the squad to get this far - you only have to remember that last year we couldn't beat Clare in casement and this year we beat them in Clare. I think the winning and getting this far will breed a bit more confidence too.

Regarding Aghagallon - St Endas. Reading on other sites it still seems like rossa may go to the ulster council about this so that whole saga may not be over. Hopefully it doesn't mess the whole competition up.

Magill and Dougan should be in the squad - they're two decent footballers and it's good to see them there.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 03, 2007, 11:37:49 AM
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I know this is perceived as a "mickey mouse" competition

Perceived my arse...it is amickey mouse compo, buts thats not Antrims fault, the tube powers that be refused to let Division 4 teams play in the qualifiers, which is an absolute disgrace( and I cant figure out why there was not an unholy row with Croke park for even suggestion it never mind getting away with it). So once again the best of luck to Antrim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 03, 2007, 11:43:36 AM
Well ok it is more than perceived but when else would we get a chance to play in croke park! It's the hand we've been dealt and we've done well with it so we may take the chance while we've got it.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on August 03, 2007, 12:46:11 PM
irrespective of how this cup is perceived we are there, lets hope we can win it. Jody and the team have  put a lot of work into this and to play for your county in HQ is what it is all about!!

Good luck to all
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Edge of the Square on August 03, 2007, 01:15:32 PM
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I know this is perceived as a "mickey mouse" competition

Perceived my arse...it is amickey mouse compo

Max (charlie) why dont you piss off back to the Derry thread. The Tommy Cooper Cup rocks ::) ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on August 03, 2007, 05:13:18 PM

Kelly and Niblock both doubtful, carrying injuries and havnt trained this week!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Lecale2 on August 04, 2007, 08:20:40 AM
Good luck Antrim. It won't be easy but let's hope they can rise to the occasion and bring the Cup North. Good that the games live on TV.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Square Ball on August 04, 2007, 03:24:04 PM
was at an under 14 match so only seen the first 15 minutes, listened to a bit on the radio, gutted for the players and management, nothing worse that a last kick goal to knock the confidence.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on August 06, 2007, 01:41:06 PM
Would just like to comiserate and congratulate Jody and the boys, for such a gallant effort on saturday.
IF only the ref had've blown for the kickout not being outisde the 21, IF only someone had've fouled them before they crossed the halfway line, IF only !!

with jody as manager, he showed his qualities on sat he knew when to make switches, and that panel of players we can go somewhere, maybe not sam maguire but div 4 next year would be a start!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on August 06, 2007, 01:45:05 PM
Heard that Rossa have won there appeal to the Ulster council regarding them being chucked out of the intermediate championship.
Result is that St Enda's have to play them again, then Aghagallon are back in and they play the winners.

What a balls up!

In my opinion there are two parties at fault, CCC for even playing St Enda's Aghagallon when Rossa were appealing and,
Rossa for being a pack of whingers who can't accept fixtures and the rules that everyone else abides by.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 06, 2007, 03:20:46 PM
Gees Rossa always seem to get away with things...

Aghagallon should never have been brought into this. What was the need to play that match so much earlier than the rest of the games anyway?? Complete mess as usual.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 07, 2007, 12:27:52 PM
Slim Shady where are you...stop hiding                                                  Slim Shady where are you...stop hiding  
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 08, 2007, 11:04:38 AM
Any predicitons for the senior championship this weekend?

Think its:
Friday night
St Galls v Rasharkin - pigs flying over Casement Friday night is more likely than Rasharkin beating them but hope they get stuck in and make a good account of themselves.

Sunday
Portglenone v St Brigids - can't see past Portglenone for this one. Playing Division 1 football is some difference to Div 2 and they seem to be going rightly having run a few of the bigger teams close.

Creggan v St Johns - Creggan to win handy enough I'd say. I would argue that Cargin (despite a league win this year over them) would have been Creggan's bogey team for the Championship...with them out hopefully they can do it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 08, 2007, 12:19:30 PM
we should win in the end but it will be tight, like i've said before we are not firing yet and if a team clicks against us there could be a shock.

st pauls on paper should beat Gorts but it will be tough, st pauls did not rake up a big score in there last game so it should be tough.

by all accounts Creggan should win but St Johns are tough to crack in championship tough to call could be a draw.

st brigids should put up a good fight again should be very tight they have progressed from last year and this might be a shock for portglenone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 08, 2007, 12:26:23 PM
I think Creggan are in for a big game in this one. A few years ago Portglenone were flying high and st johns dumped them out at the first hurdle. The johnnies in the championship are a different kettle of fish to the league.  This game will be much tighter than form would suggest.

St Brigids will really challenge Portglenone I think. I don't think Portglenone are a great team at all to be honest. They've a left footed free taker in your man McCallion and wee Gerard McAleese from play / frees but not that much more scoring threat. They have some solid players in Convery, McCarry and a few other boys but that asides they are no great shakes. I really think there could be a big shock in this one.

The other two will go the way of the favourites I suspect.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 08, 2007, 12:50:00 PM
Could be one worth watching then the Creggan Johnnies game.
Still think Creggan by 3

The St Pauls Gorts one could be tight as well. I haven't seen the Gorts play this year but I saw St Pauls beat Cargin and they were very poor in a poor match. If they have a couple of good supporting forwards and Pollock plays well the Gorts could win. St Pauls were limited in defence I felt...in fact if being honest they were limited all over.
Actually with the aid of hindsight (and not sheer glee as it was at the time) its a shame for Antrim football Cargin aren't there. They have some quality about them.
Gorts by 2.

Portglenone's big players are exactly that I think - Convery, McCarry, Storey, McKeever, Doherty and they rarely fail to deliver.
Portglenone by 8.

Not putting a number on Rasharkin/Galls.

We shall see.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 08, 2007, 01:54:32 PM
Come out, come out, where ever you are Slim................................................Come out, come out, where ever you are Slim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: 1912 on August 09, 2007, 12:05:59 AM
Seagan An Diomais - can any Saffron Gaels tell me much about this successful dual club from the early 1900s. I know the great Harry Sheehan played for them (today's archive section of the Irish News letters - although they have it as Sean a' Diomas). Where were they based? Any info would be great.
I'm not sure if I'm right on this one but I think they were based in the lower Falls and I think that St. Galls may have come from them.
They won a number of county titles in hurling and football in the early 1900s.

Repesented Antrim in 1911 and 1912 AI football final and county colours are now based from this club.  No connection with St Galls as they were founded in 1910.  By the way Harry Sheehan was captain in 1911 (not 1912) and was the first captain from Ulster to contest the all ireland final.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 09, 2007, 12:26:36 AM
Were they swallowed up by St Galls?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Chamonmofo on August 09, 2007, 10:48:45 AM
reply to glensman..... more like cargin man... st pauls can't win like... beat the county champions and stillget slated... jealousy is a powerful motive.....

i admit wasnt a pretty game... and it wasnt attacking football.... that was our game plan... we tried to match cargin with flowing lfootball in the league and we got beat 16-1....

as the old saying goes - leagues are for playing in and champs are for winning... we done what we had to to win the game andcargin couldnt hack it..

naomh pol abu... all you country ones stop your crying haha
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Drumanee 1 on August 10, 2007, 08:42:27 AM
slim where are you,when out last night to watch our thirds play your reserves/seniors/countyseniors to to see your good self in goal and i have to say you are one ugly man ;D,but your good at th short kick outs,must of been embarrasing for out third team to beat yous again even though you had a couple of seniors on and even a county man on(tony scullion) :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: jim on August 10, 2007, 11:36:18 AM
slim where are you,when out last night to watch our thirds play your reserves/seniors/countyseniors to to see your good self in goal and i have to say you are one ugly man ;D,but your good at th short kick outs,must of been embarrasing for out third team to beat yous again even though you had a couple of seniors on and even a county man on(tony scullion) :P
you obviously dont know too much about cargin. scullion was the only senior (and he only played a third) and he is ex county now. he is available for our reserve championship so of course he would be there. all the players last night have hardly played seniors at all this year except for when they are short. Plus the game finished a draw! At least 5 of your team would make your seniors if they wanted to so do they count as seniors??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 10, 2007, 01:14:49 PM
Wrong Jim, none of them would make our seniors thats why they play thirds, they either had been dropped or told they were not going to be in the picture...end of
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Drumanee 1 on August 10, 2007, 01:48:00 PM
slim where are you,when out last night to watch our thirds play your reserves/seniors/countyseniors to to see your good self in goal and i have to say you are one ugly man ;D,but your good at th short kick outs,must of been embarrasing for out third team to beat yous again even though you had a couple of seniors on and even a county man on(tony scullion) :P
you obviously dont know too much about cargin. scullion was the only senior (and he only played a third) and he is ex county now. he is available for our reserve championship so of course he would be there. all the players last night have hardly played seniors at all this year except for when they are short. Plus the game finished a draw! At least 5 of your team would make your seniors if they wanted to so do they count as seniors??

you actually lost the match by two points 2:9 to 0:17,scullion was the only senior i reconised but the man i was standing beside(dont no his name but drives a light blue 405) told me there was a few senior men on,admittently he said they had been injured but still this was bellaghy thirds who had players who were over the hill or just not good enough for reserves.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Drumanee 1 on August 10, 2007, 01:49:24 PM
max do you think this jim is actually slim
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 11, 2007, 11:05:57 AM
after watching last nights game against Gorts and St Pauls i have to say this, how bad are were Cargin getting beat by St Pauls and for Gorts to beat St Pauls. now last night Gorts were the better team from start to finish. first to the bal and good all round play and with Pollock in the team they will put it up to anyone.

our game was over after the referee blew his whistle to start the game, first point after 30 seconds followed by another and so on. by half time we had scored more than what Gorts did to beat St Pauls. we took of CJ Kevin Niblock and terry o Neill. which begs the question should division two teams be in the football championship?

after last night, no they should be playing interm.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on August 11, 2007, 12:28:12 PM
which begs the question should division two teams be in the football championship?

after last night, no they should be playing interm.

take your arrogance back to the falls milltown - your attitude reeks of all that is wrong with your club - who are you to dictate to any club what championship they play - mitchells are free to enter SFC - up to individual clubs what level they pitch themselves at. will you think the same of st. brigid's tomorrow if they beat Portglenone?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on August 11, 2007, 01:15:04 PM
any truth that mctoal had st pauls out trainin at 7 in the morning? if so, what where they doing?!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 14, 2007, 08:55:08 AM
aontroim, what was the result of the portglenone game? no arrogance just simple fact, division two teams are out of their depth. just like the hurling, division two teams would be out of their depth. unless your from one of those teams that play in division 2 and senior Championship.

Gorts play Portglenone and Naomh Gall play Creggan

think the dates are August 26th at Casement double header

i'll not be arrogant and guess the winners would not want aontroim giving off
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on August 14, 2007, 09:55:19 AM
14-7 is hardly a tanking milltown - i'm not from any of the div 2 clubs playing sfc - just dont like elitist attitudes where football is concerned - especially in antrim.

would you rather have a 6 team SFC - bit of a joke no?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 14, 2007, 10:06:02 AM
nothing elitist about it, when we dropped down to division 2 a few years ago we also should have played interm. football championship.

there are ten teams in division one football. not six
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 14, 2007, 10:31:30 AM
St Brigids won the intermediate championship last year. Therefore the should and did play senior championship this year.
I attended both matches on Sunday and would actually say the St Brigids didn't looked out of their depth at all...they missed a few easy chances, a friend playing for them tells me they had quite a few boys carrying injuries etc and with a bit of a rub of the green who knows.
The Rasharkin St Galls game doesn't help the Div 2 argument but St Galls when they turn up (in my opinion) are still a bit above the rest of Antrim .

I would say that the Gorts and Portglenone will both be very happy with their draw.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 14, 2007, 10:52:14 AM
totally agree intermediate champions should play the next level, but seven points in football is a tanking.

i fancy Gorts to improve, not sure of portglenone, they blow hot and cold. gorts have a serious hunger about them, they also had plenty of support play on the night good fitness levels and kept their discipline and won a lot of dirty ball.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 14, 2007, 11:33:58 AM
Milltown with Cargin and Lamh Dhearg out there are realistically no teams that can challenge you at all. What you did to Rasharkin you could do to almost anyone. St Brigids aren't really that out of place in the senior championship and deserve to be there as they won the intermediate. Rasharkin have some fine players in Doherty, Hasson and McAleese but are maybe a bit thin on the ground in some other areas. I , to be honest, am surprised they are actually in division 2 at all. If the rules allow them to be in the senior then why shouldn't they be? You have to take into account that Dunloy, Moneyglass are in division 1 and you could probably beat them by more than you beat Rasharkin.

Your argument of division 2 teams in the senior holds the same water as an argument for division 1 teams in the intermediate. Dunloy and Moneyglass are in the intermediate and in division 1.

The Antrim scene in football is really very lop sided. St Galls and Cargin could field second teams who could beat a lot of teams first teams.

You may have a point about division 2 sides in the senior but your comments were ill formed and possibly came across as arrogant! You came up with this theory because you hammered Rasharkin - you have to realise that you could,and probably will, hammer most of the teams left and you are a club with the ability to do in Antrim what Crossmaglen have done in Armagh and the only one team in the whole county,I think, even remotely close to stopping that is Cargin and they blow hot and cold. Now if Creggan put it up to you I will eat a lot of those words but I'd be very surprised.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 14, 2007, 11:50:11 AM
yeah if the rules say you can enter senior then go ahead. will you win it? maybe not, could you win intermediate? possibly, and go on and represent your county in the ulster club. seems a better idea.

training from december to get beaten in the manner Rasharkin could put a club back a bit.

wining promotion to division one should put you in senior championship.

could Naomh Gall enter the intermediate Championship? 

it seems that the football and hurling in antrim is lop sided as only three teams can win both. dont think this has changed for the last 10 years.

like i say this is my opinion, i dont mean to come across as being arrogant

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on August 14, 2007, 12:28:55 PM
Can anyone teel me how the minor football c`ship is going. Who plays who next?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 14, 2007, 01:36:15 PM
No harm in having an opinion Milltown. It seemd though that you assumed you hammered rasharkin as they're division 2. They're a division 2 side who would give you as good a game as a number of division 1 sides would. What was the score between you and Dunloy on the first day of the season?

Realistically only two sides can win antrim senior at the minute unless Creggan have seriously come up which would, pleasantly might I add, surprise me. All the rest just make up the numbers.

If every team that couldn't win the senior went down to intermediate then there'd not be too many left! I think there is some merit in what you say though.It should be enforced  senior comes from division 1 plus previous years intermediate winners and intermediate comes from division 2 and maybe top half of 3 with junior from the rest.

You had the example of a division1  playing a division 3 team in the championship which shouldn't be happening. All be it that the division three team won but even so it's a game shouldn't be happening!

Johnjoe minor football is down to about 4 teams now if I'm right. Sarsfields, Rossa, St Galls and Cargin. If I'm right I think St Galls play Cargin?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on August 14, 2007, 01:48:26 PM
Its a crazy situation but league standing has no bearing on what championship you play in.
At the start of the year you can enter whatever championship takes your fancy.

With regard to the Rasharkin St Galls game, St Galls at a different class and could of won the game by a lot more.
Rasharkin however were in div 1 and are looking like being there again next year, and fit into a bracket of about 6 or 7 clubs who could beat each other on their day but would be tanked by St Galls/Cargin.
For the promotion of football within the county these teams need to be competitive with the top teams and should then be in the senior championship.

Teams like Dunloy, Moneyglass and Glenravel are in that bracket and should be playing senior.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on August 14, 2007, 02:42:05 PM
Thanks TommyGunn.

Hadnt heard the result of Gorts v Galls minor match, and thought it would be a close call. Gorts hammered Stinsons who have been unbeaten and impressive all year in SW league, so Galls must be good too.

In fairness, although they can be a bit OTT and in your face, particularly at their tight little pitch, Gorts do deserve a helluva lot of credit. They have made huge strides in recent years, poss top 2 or 3 in minor , u-21 champions, and now into senior semis.

Antrim needs a few teams coming through to challenge St Galls and Cargin, and certainly in the city, we need the Turf lodge area, as well as the huge South Belfast area (ST Brigids) with a passionate GAA fraternity.

As far as I can see, the traditionalists such as St Johns and Rossa are really struggling to make an impact, with St Pauls, Lamh Dearg and Sarsfields another 30% to find from somewhere.  St Endas quite simply are under performing year on year, with their huge catchment. So fair play to Brigids and the Gorts for at least being on a progressive curve.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 14, 2007, 03:09:56 PM
Gort Na Mona have a steady stream of underage talent coming though so I would expect them to be top three in the next few years. Creggan were doing really well at u14 a few years ago but I've not seen anything at minor yet - maybe they're a year or two young? No other club has a steady stream of underage talent coming through.

You get the odd team like Davitts winning minors but they were never able to sustain it and you need multiple good underage teams to make a good senior team - one just isn't enough. I think Sarsfields are picking up though and Rossa being in a minor semi is the first in a long time.

From the south west Cargin aside there hasn't been too much since Stinsons of the late nineties and even four in a row didn't translate to senior success.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on August 14, 2007, 03:21:19 PM
as previously pointed out, it is up to every club as to decide which championship they play in.
obviously some clubs would rather take the easier option of intermediate, thus having a better chance of winning and then representing antrim in the ulster.
lets take the county hurlers for example. they entered the christy ring last year instead of liam mccarthy. does anyone think this helped them improve as a team.
it maybe builds the confidence up a bit, but your beating lower level opposition, or in some cases getting beat by them.
this year they have improved because they were playin top teams in the top league and championship competitions.

take gortnamona for instance they are now in the semi of the senior, they could have taken the intermediate option at the start of the season which they could have won.
they now have a very good chance of making the final and good luck to them.

in my opinion all division 1 teams from the previous year and the present incoming year should be in the senior championship along with the winners of intermed. the year before. open draw. no option in the matter.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on August 14, 2007, 03:26:09 PM
Kinda disagree with your opinion re Gorts ITG.

I think there is some kind of movement up there at the minute, and even if their minors didnt win the c`ship, I really liked four or five of them. At least four class players, notably keeper, centre half back, a midfielder and a few very good forwards, one in particular with some left foot.

Would say they will be around for a few years, they looked more like gaelic players than soccer players, if you get my drift!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 14, 2007, 03:37:19 PM
I maybe conveyed that badly JJ. Only three clubs have a constant stream of talent coming through - Gorts, Cargin, St Galls. No-one else looks to have anything of note coming through to challenge any of those three. Yes I agree with your soccer player opinion too - used to play teams like that with half in their man united shorts and the other half in their celtic ones. Seems like a thing of the past! No one else , to my mind anyway, has enough of a stream of talent coming through to impact these three so it should just be a matter of time till Gort NaMona bypass Portglenone and Lamh Dhearg assuming that, and I think they have, they've already bypassed St Johns/St Pauls.

This to me would mean that the only three to challenge for senior / division one honours in the next few years will come from these three. It will be tough for Gort Na Mona to make a breakthrough by the "big two" but you never know if they keep at it.

Culchy the hurlers had no choice but to enter the christy ring...

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 14, 2007, 03:50:16 PM
i think in the minor we got Rossa, games to be played the 22 August
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on August 14, 2007, 04:28:35 PM
ok tommy gunn, i thought they had the choice, but you know what i'm gettin at.
playin in a lower grade doesnt make you better in the long term, it might give you short term success albeit at a lower level, but it depends on where your club sees themselves going in the future.


on another note, i feel i have to mention michael pollock's point for gorts against st pauls on friday night.
he hit an almighty sideline, stand side of pitch, very difficult shot straight over.
eye of the needle stuff, absolutely brilliant.
can only be good for the future of antrim football and to think he couldn't even make the u-21 panel!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 14, 2007, 04:51:03 PM
agreed culchy - moneyglass have already won intermediate from division one so not sure what good it's doing them. or dunloy for that matter either. maybe from dunloy's perspective they just want to win something.

have heard big reports of your man pollock but have never seen him in action. can't understand why he wasn't in u21 squad - i would suspect politics.

with boys like him, mcgourty and crozier we should have some hope for the future!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on August 15, 2007, 10:05:05 AM
Hold the phone here tommygun, i think your blowing things out of porportion here regarding Gort na Mona's summit past St Johns, St Pauls and the like.
A quick look at the div 1 results shows they have 3 wins Dunloy twice and Lamh Dhearg, plus they beat St Pauls in the championship, hardly earth shattering results.

Now i do think that they are a club on the up, and they may beat Portglenone in the semi but they have a lot of work to do.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on August 15, 2007, 11:58:10 AM
TommyGunn, I know its an old chestnut, but you singled out MP, CJ and Crozier, quite rightly, all class acts.

Supports my theory  that internal politics really cost us a provincial or poss national u-21 title last year. Getting beaten by 0-13 to 0-11, in Omagh without CJ and Crozier would make you wonder would we not have been two or three points, at least a better team with them playing?

As far Mickey Pollocks omission this year, and not playing Benny Hasson midfield, well only John Mc Sparran can sort that one out!

Aw fcuk, dont get me started again!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 15, 2007, 12:05:37 PM
Where O' Where is Slim Shady, since cargin got beaten he has done a massive runner
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Cromagh on August 15, 2007, 12:16:51 PM
John Joe are you suggesting that if a certain manager had of got staying on........taht Antrim would have won an ulster u-21 title!!!!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 15, 2007, 12:21:17 PM
Did Tyrone win it that year?? Maybe not won it but a final would have been something!!

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on August 15, 2007, 02:00:51 PM
ITG, Tyrone won Ulster, and lost by a point to Mayo in the semi. Mayo won it.

No doubt Tyrone were a good side, but Crozier and CJ played the week before, against Fermanagh, which Antrim won by twelve points.

All I`m saying, Cromagh, and its 06, not 07 Im talking about, that some of the blazers didnt do enough behind the scenes to make sure they were available against Tyrone. CJ played as captain for the minors that day, and CJ for his school in the All Ireland B colleges semi final. He scored 4 goals and 5 points that day.

Tyrone, in Omagh were always going to be difficult, but my argumemt, now supported by the way CJ and Crozier have blossomed into the stars of the senior team this year, is that their availability could/should /would have been enough to get through that day.

And after that, well we wont ever know, will we.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 15, 2007, 04:58:14 PM
same manager won three Senior championships and got Naomh Gal to a Ulster final were they were beaten by 3 by the loup (Derry Champions)

he was the choice everyone wanted at the time. his results have been no different than the current manager, but sure one mans hero is anothers villan.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on August 16, 2007, 11:24:07 AM
Chamonmodo, that some name boy, where does that come from?

Cj wasnt playing minor, read my post, he was playing for his school. How hard would it have been to get one game at 11 and the other at 4pm? Sure he could have been taken off at half time in the school match, they were that far ahead.

Your other point is sound, the players definitely were well up for it. It was there for the taking.

The point I make was that there was no effort whatsoever to facilitate CJ.  Every other county board would have made an effort, except Antrims.

To say that Justy wouldnt have made the team, if he was available is an interesting point though. It is well known that 2 selectors were huge in Croziers favour, and two others, city based, including the manager, werent that impressed with him. It is also well known that it caused huge dissention in the camp in the few days leading up to the match, particularly with MEADE getting the vacant jersey, prompted by his clubmate, club manager selector,in an unbelievable show of St Johns nepotism.

As I say again, we`ll never know, but sure, so what!

It was only our best chance of an Ulster or national football title.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 16, 2007, 11:33:21 AM
Its gone boys...the Under 21 saga was debated on here till people were blue in the face.
What ifs etc?

The talent in that team now has to be harnessed and arguably Jody is trying to do just that.
Crozier, Mick McCann, CJ (though he won't get a break I'd say) etc need to be looked after and then be able to give Div 4 a real rattle next year and then we move on from there. One step at a time.
By regurgitating the Under 21 debate you're taking a couple of steps back.

Manipulating fixtures sets a very dangerous precedent but I agree that in the right circumstances a bit of sense should be used.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: johnjoe on August 16, 2007, 11:54:50 AM
Glensman, it does no harm whatsoever to remind ourselves, that we have a great group of young players coming through. That we could/ should/would have won last years U -21 title, IS  actually something we need to keep highlighting. Outside the county, well, maybe no one will believe it, but that group of players know themselves what happened, and the most annoying thing about it was, it wasnt lost on the field. It was lost in officialdom. Thats the sad part!

I agree, we must move on, and its good to know there are real talents out there. There can be no argument our current 19-23 age group is the strongest we have ever had.

In fact, I think its fair to ask the question, would we have beated Derry at Casement with a fit  Michael Magill and Sean Kelly, as well as Dougan and big Benny on fron the start? As for Kevin Mc Gourty.......

Its another "dont know", but it definitely has to be said those players would have made some difference.

As you say, its up to Jody to bring it all together, and he needs all our support to do this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 17, 2007, 10:40:13 AM
IFC:
Dunloy    Ardoyne    Ballymena   19/08/2007   14:30   Thomas Close      
All Saints    Tir na Nog    Ahoghill   19/08/2007   17:30   Alex Trainor      
Glenavy    Glenravel    Ahoghill   19/08/2007   19:00   Gerard Mc Kiernan

Any predictions??

Dunloy by 8

Ballymena by 6

Glenravel by 1
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on August 17, 2007, 10:52:48 AM
your not far away itg.

should make for interesting semi-finals.

does anyone know what the craic is with the other match?

i know rumbly character mentioned it before, but i seen on the antrim gaa site that the admin person, said st enda's were through and that was it.
wud be a shambles in rossa did get back in, though it wudnt suprise me in the slighest and would hold the whole thing up, prob wouldnt be finished in time for ulsters anyhow.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 17, 2007, 11:25:04 AM
According to county site rossa are out.

I'm not sure whether or not they have raised an appeal - there seems conflicting stories.

Made no sense for them to play that quater final they could have been in early though.

They're not good enough to win it anyway. Take Bell and Close out and you've a very average team. Put them in and it's still an average team.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 17, 2007, 12:37:23 PM
Intermediate

Dunloy by 4 (with a few bloody noses...)

Ballymena by 6

Gleneravel by 3.

Dunloy Glenravel would be a good final but I fancy Ballymena to be there or there abouts.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: culchy1 on August 17, 2007, 01:10:29 PM
Intermediate

Dunloy by 4 (with a few bloody noses...)

Ballymena by 6

Gleneravel by 3.

Dunloy Glenravel would be a good final but I fancy Ballymena to be there or there abouts.


ur some craic glensman, 4 teams left and you fancy 3 of them!

law of averages wud say you have a good chance of gettin it right.

b'mena will be hard to beat, the addition of the 3 logans has helped them no end & not just paddy, the other 2 are good players too(well div 2 anyway).

i fancy dunloy mysel, on their day they could beat most div 1 teams. but as said in previous posts i think they along with glenravel shud be playin senior championship.



Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: rashCharacter on August 17, 2007, 03:08:41 PM
Rumour has it Rossa still have an appeal lodged with the Ulster council.

What happens if they win is anybodys guess.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on August 17, 2007, 06:27:13 PM
Intermediate

Dunloy by 4 (with a few bloody noses...)

Ballymena by 6

Gleneravel by 3.

Dunloy Glenravel would be a good final but I fancy Ballymena to be there or there abouts.


ur some craic glensman, 4 teams left and you fancy 3 of them!

law of averages wud say you have a good chance of gettin it right.

b'mena will be hard to beat, the addition of the 3 logans has helped them no end & not just paddy, the other 2 are good players too(well div 2 anyway).

i fancy dunloy mysel, on their day they could beat most div 1 teams. but as said in previous posts i think they along with glenravel shud be playin senior championship.


St Endas, glenavy, Glenravel, Ballymena, Dunloy, Ardoyne and Randalstown are all still in the Intermediate at this stage.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 17, 2007, 10:32:48 PM
Cheers Culchy...many a man before has said I was good craic.

I was saying for local rivalry (and north antrim football) Dunloy and Glenravel would be a good final but that Ballymena are a decent team.
Anything wrong with that?!

You yourself fancy Dunloy and Ballymena!

Actually a relatively open Intermediate. I had forgotten St Endas who aren't bad themselves...there's another one for you Culchy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Well on August 20, 2007, 08:50:33 PM
IFC Fixture for Rossa v St Enda's, Date & venue TBC, posted on Official Antrim Website today.
Follow the links for Fixtures, Football, Intermediate.

Where does this leave Aghagallon?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on August 20, 2007, 09:29:06 PM
IFC Fixture for Rossa v St Enda's, Date & venue TBC, posted on Official Antrim Website today.
Follow the links for Fixtures, Football, Intermediate.

Where does this leave Aghagallon?
I thought this had been brushed aside. What a mess it's turning into.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on August 20, 2007, 09:30:36 PM
IFC Fixture for Rossa v St Enda's, Date & venue TBC, posted on Official Antrim Website today.
Follow the links for Fixtures, Football, Intermediate.

Where does this leave Aghagallon?
I thought this had been brushed aside. What a mess it's turning into.

If you look at the guestbook it has been explained. Technical Glitch
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on August 20, 2007, 09:33:58 PM
Ahhhh!
Pretty stupid decision not to play the game by the Rossa management/committee.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 22, 2007, 09:05:12 AM
was down watching our seniors play Gort Na Mona on Sunday and they were awful. maybe too much celabrating after the St Pauls gamebut we played without 7 starters who played on  the championship game.

a few creegan lads down watching, should be a tight game this Sunday but the lads have put in some work lately and it's starting to come together.

naomh gall by five

the other game well before Sunday's league game against us i'd have said Gorts to pull off another surprise but no ports by 6
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 23, 2007, 01:14:33 PM
Slim has not been heard or seen of since CARGIN GOT BEAT IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Edge of the Square on August 23, 2007, 01:48:02 PM
Slim, where are you
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: bredaghgael on August 23, 2007, 05:45:59 PM
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Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on August 23, 2007, 07:41:45 PM
Get's worse for Slim.
Minor Championship Semi Finals
St. Galls  0-7 1-8 Rossa  Casement Park
Sarsfields  3-6 1-7 Cargin  Casement Park
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 24, 2007, 08:27:25 AM
Was Ballymena v Randalstown played this week?
Anyone know the result?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: girt_giggler on August 24, 2007, 09:00:03 AM
All Saints 0-12  1-7 Tir na Nog
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on August 24, 2007, 02:40:46 PM
Cheers girt.

Are the semi final pairings known yet then?

Glenavy, Dunloy, Ballymena, Lamh Dearg...is that it?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: snowygael on August 24, 2007, 05:13:58 PM
ballymena v donloy
glenavy v st endas
dates tbc
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 27, 2007, 11:43:08 AM
game was over before half time last night, Creegan were really poor, second half we did not have to play at all, no intensity needed and the game slowed right down.

the final is not for another 6 weeks, what are these lads meant to do for 6 weeks? crazy.

will moran be with them next year or will he bugger off to a county team somewhere?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: tintin25 on August 27, 2007, 12:00:35 PM
Lads, who you reckon would be favourites for the Intermediate football title in Antirm?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 29, 2007, 09:42:07 AM
is the football that boring at the minute that nobody wants to talk about it?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on August 29, 2007, 11:06:21 AM
It's pretty bad Milltown - you guys have it all sewn up and the manner of Creggan's defeat given how well they've been going is pretty demoralising for us all as you're miles above all of us!

I would expect you to win the final by about 5 or 6.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on August 29, 2007, 12:07:43 PM
if we get into our stride then yes i'd say we could win by a lot more than 6/7

the last time we played Portglenone they stiffled our game for most of the match but never really looked like out scoring us.

creegan played better football in the second (ok game was dead) half when they started to play a more open and direct game, this may also make more space for our forwards as a result but what do you do ? double team CJ? do that and you leave Karl Stewart free who can score as much as CJ the two lads are really on form at the minute and the rest of the lads are chipping in with scores.

i think if the ports want to win this this should be the way they go. worry about your own tactics and concentrate on what will win it for you. cj and karl will get the ball regardless.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: snowygael on August 31, 2007, 02:00:55 AM
I would have to fancie ballymena for the IFC.
Think the semi final with donloy will be very tight but with ballymena coming out on top to meet st endas in the final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 31, 2007, 10:27:11 AM
I was sure JJ would have been on here singing the ports praises...maybe he is feeling a little blue
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: girt_giggler on August 31, 2007, 10:41:05 AM
I would have to fancie ballymena for the IFC.
Think the semi final with donloy will be very tight but with ballymena coming out on top to meet st endas in the final

aww, great to see a senior member of his own team fancying their own chances on an internet forum!   ;)  ;D

In all seriousness I wish All Saints well
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on August 31, 2007, 11:59:39 AM
I would have to fancie ballymena for the IFC.
Think the semi final with donloy will be very tight but with ballymena coming out on top to meet st endas in the final

aww, great to see a senior member of his own team fancying their own chances on an internet forum!   ;)  ;D

In all seriousness I wish All Saints well

snowygael and snowy (sean mcveigh) intrested in the IFC  and backing Saints all the way  :o maybe im wrong  ;D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on August 31, 2007, 02:36:03 PM
snowygael is paddy logan in disguise  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: snowygael on August 31, 2007, 04:22:28 PM
well someone asked  the opinions of this  forum regarding the IFC and i gave mine honestly it doesn matter if its my club or not we have a great chance.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: behind the wire on August 31, 2007, 04:30:15 PM
il go for ballymena too, even though i know nothing about antrim football. went all the way up there during pre season for a friendly only to find pitch unplayable. looked like a good outfit though.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: snowygael on September 01, 2007, 12:05:56 PM
the pitch wasn greatt that day but we still wanted to play it but your team decided not to. but thanks for the support
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on September 05, 2007, 12:57:31 PM
Where has Slim Shady and now John Joe gone too
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on September 06, 2007, 08:19:54 AM
Results from last nights Div 1 and 2 games:

 Division 1 Football

Lamh Dhearg  0-9 2-7 Cargin 
Gort Na Mona  1-5 1-14 St. Galls   
St. Johns  1-14 2-6 St. Pauls     
Moneyglass  3-15 3-9 Dunloy 

 Division 2 Football

Rossa  - - Mc Dermotts   Not Played 
Glenravel  1-11 0-11 St. Endas   
Rasharkin  3-12 1-11 Aghagallon   
Davitts  - - Sarsfields   Not Played 
St. Brigids B 1-16 1-14 All Saints     

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on September 06, 2007, 08:26:16 AM

League table for Division 1 Football
Team   Played   Won   Lost   Drawn   Points For    Against   Points Diff   Points

Cargin    12   11   1   0   193   109   84   22
St. Galls    12   9   3   0   195   127   68   18
Creggan    10   7   1   2   154   115   39   16
St. Pauls    13   7   4   2   161   166   -5   16
P'one    11   6   5   0   158   131   27   12
St. Johns    13   5   7   1   148   191   -43   11
Mon'glass    13   4   9   0   183   186   -3   8
GortMona    13   3   9   1   163   207   -44   7
L Dhearg    12   2   8   2   144   196   -52   6
Dunloy    11   2   9   0   137   208   -71   4



League table for Division 2 Football
Team   Played   Won   Lost   Drawn   Points For Against   Points Diff   Points

St. Brigids   12   10   1   1   191   123   68   21
Rasharkin    12   9   2   1   187   132   55   19
All Saints    12   6   4   2   167   153   14   14
St. Endas    12   6   5   1   159   132   27   13
Aghagallon    12   5   5   2   154   148   6   12
Glenravel    11   5   4   2   126   123   3   12
Rossa    11   4   6   1   129   130   -1   9
Sarsfields    11   3   7   1   114   149   -35   7
Davitts    10   3   6   1   115   155   -40   7
Mc Derms    11   0   11   0   87   184   -97   0
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 06, 2007, 08:48:32 AM
think Dunloy have been shafted by our senior football team by not putting in a full team against lamhs last week, normaly we would have stuffed them but by not playing all our players we have made it really difficult for them staying up.

i hope when we play Dunloy we dont put out a full strength team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 06, 2007, 11:03:47 AM
think Dunloy have been shafted by our senior football team by not putting in a full team against lamhs last week, normaly we would have stuffed them but by not playing all our players we have made it really difficult for them staying up.

i hope when we play Dunloy we dont put out a full strength team

Did you field a weakened side because your club is feeling a wee bit bad that they are trying to persuade a high profile Lamh Dhearg forward to join St. Gall's for next season?

An absolute disgrace that such a transfer is even being considered and scandalous if it does go through.  Shame on St. Gall's, but totally indictative of the mindset of Antrim GAA and further evidnece that there is so much wrong within our county.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 06, 2007, 11:28:56 AM
What's the story with relegation?

One down and one playoff with second from the lower league?

McDermotts obviously to get chopped in division 2 but there could be a few more spots to play for.

Second bottom spot could be interesting in division 1 too.

Very cynical view Sam. Do you know for sure that your man is transferring to Galls or you just basing things on hearsay?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on September 06, 2007, 11:43:36 AM
What's the story with relegation?

One down and one playoff with second from the lower league?

McDermotts obviously to get chopped in division 2 but there could be a few more spots to play for.

Second bottom spot could be interesting in division 1 too.

Very cynical view Sam. Do you know for sure that your man is transferring to Galls or you just basing things on hearsay?

Is it not the worst kept secret about that Cunningham is going to St Galls?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 06, 2007, 12:33:13 PM
Paddy Cuningham is NOT coming to Naomh Gall thats for sure.


saffron i'm afraid your talking shite. so what your saying is players should never leave their clubs?

so if you fell out with the majority of team mates and feel as if you have no future in the club, that he would be better off not playing????????????


and it's the county boards fault, ha, brill

it's a good thing your not holding the reins

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 06, 2007, 01:58:22 PM
Paddy Cuningham is NOT coming to Naomh Gall thats for sure.

Good and that is how it should be, although there is no doubt that he would have been welcomed at Milltown.  I believe the proposed transfer package of two days a week subbing in La Salle, the choice of any three outfits from Sean McGourty's wardrobe and a new pair of boots with "Paddy Hands" embroidered on them was just not tempting enough.


saffron i'm afraid your talking shite. so what your saying is players should never leave their clubs?
Leaving aside your inability to use the apostrophe, it is quite clear that you're trying to misquote me.  I am not saying players shouldn't leave clubs; I am saying that players shouldn't leave their club in the circumstances of this case. Nor should they leave a small club to go to a bigger one.

so if you fell out with the majority of team mates and feel as if you have no future in the club, that he would be better off not playing????????????

If you knew Cunningham, you would know that it is practically impossible to fall out with him.  His mother's family have always been a Lamh Dhearg family.  The issue at hand should have been dealt with internally by LD with no need for talk of transfers. The fact that your club jumped in straight away is concerning.  I have never mentioned him not playing.  He can play away with his own club when they sort the issue out.

and it's the county boards fault, ha, brill
It is indeed.  Few (if any) other county boards would allow the number of inter-club transfers that Antrim do. Certainly this transfer wouldn't have been considered in either Down or Derry. Can you get figures for the number of inter-club transfers in each county?  Would back my point up very well I think.  Transfers are granted at the drop of a hat in Antrim and if players can demonstrate such a lack of loyalty (because of a fall-out or ambitions of playing football at a higher level), what chance is there of loyalty to their county. Should the Logans have been allowed to transfer to Ballymena, Sheeny McQuillan to Glenravel (and back a year later), Anto Finnegan , the two Glenavy boys, the Drake brothers, Aaron Thompson, Adrian Craig etc.?  Is there another county in Ireland where an under-21 goalkeeper can be on his third club, because he has fallen out with the previous two? As a counter example, did Ciaran Gourley or Philip Loughran move from small clubs to further their ambitions.

This a problem that is specific (certainly in my experience) to GAA in Antrim and since they are tasked with running the games in Antrim, of course it is the county board's fault.

it's a good thing your not holding the reins
A good thing for St.Gall's indeed, as their aggressive approach to transfers would certainly be curtailed.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 06, 2007, 02:09:49 PM
Dunloy looked doomed to failure and it could very well be because of St Galls sending a strong outfit to Castlewellan 7s. Pretty bad if so. Not necessarily completely St Galls fault, but I do hope they field the same team v Dunloy.

Who are you Saffron Sam to make such an objective call on what, in each instance in my opinion, should be looked at subjectively.
Clearly there was some fall out between the Logans and Ahoghill that made it impossible for them to stay on...sure they not be allowed to play football or have to leave the county.

Paddy Cunningham would certianly be a high profile transfer indeed, but due to what has been said on here it appears he is not going.

I heard a rumour that Michael Magill was headed for Cargin...any truth in that or has it become silly season in the transfer market with the season not over yet?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 06, 2007, 03:01:48 PM
two days at La Salle? pants

i didnt know it was a spelling contest

smaller club? Lamhs have been in a couple of county finals lately, they are also a div 1 hurling team as well

if you know him so well then you would know that he  was not coming anyway

what facts and figures have you got to back up your opinion on other counties views on people transfering to other clubs?

what thirds goalkeeper are you talking about? i played last night and we had the sub goalkeeper from the all ireland team playing.

if i spelt or wrote something wrong i'm sorry...............nobhead
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on September 06, 2007, 03:04:53 PM
Perhaps i can help....to get a transfer in Derry to another club...is like getting blood from a stone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 07, 2007, 09:03:09 AM
two days at La Salle? pants
I try to introduce a bit of levity into a serious topic and this is the thanks I get.  I take it then that you believed the bit about McGourty's wardrobe and embroidered boots?

i didnt know it was a spelling contest
It isn't, but a wise man on this board once quoted, I think, Flann O'Brien who said "A man who can misplace an apostrophe is capable of anything".  Always good to know the type of person you're dealing with.

smaller club? Lamhs have been in a couple of county finals lately, they are also a div 1 hurling team as well

I didn't mean LD specifically. The point I was making that the two main reasons for transfers in Antrim seem to be because of fall outs and ambition to play at a higher level. But, since you have brought it up, there can be no doubt that by moving from LD to St Gall's, any player would significantly improve their chances of winning multiple county titles.

I can think of myriad transfers within Antrim that prove my point:
Ciaran O'Grady - Eire Og (small club) to Naomh Gall (bigger club)
Aaron Thompson - St Agnes (small club) to Naomh Gall (bigger club)
Billy & John Drake - Lisburn (small club) to Naomh Gall (bigger club)
Eamonn & Paul Graham - Cushendun (small club) to Rosaa (then a bigger club)
Joe McCaffrey - O'Donnell's (small club) to Rossa (bigger club)
Adrian Craig - Portglenone (then a small club) to Cargin (bigger club)
The two Glenavy boys - Glenavy (small club) to Lamh Dhearg (bigger club)
etc.

Hopefully, you can get my point now.

if you know him so well then you would know that he  was not coming anyway

It seems that the transfer is not going to go through which is the correct course of action.

what facts and figures have you got to back up your opinion on other counties views on people transfering to other clubs?

Max has helped me out by giving his opinion about transfers in Derry.  I asked boys in work from Derry about transfers between clubs in Derry, they came up with three. Gary Coleman moving from Magherafelt to Ballymaquigan was one - he had moved to Ballymaquigan and it was his father's home club - nothing untoward there.  A boy (Donnelly?) once moved from Bellaghy to Lavey, but it had to be via Cargin before the county board would consider it.  Another boyo once transferred from Glen to Slaughneil and subsequently transferred back before he was eventually suspended from the club for dipping pockets in the changing rooms.  I asked another boy in work about transfers in Down and he highlighted DJ Kane who moved from Mitchel's to Shamrocks again via a club in Antrim (O'Donnells). He also mentioned the James McCartan mobile home farce in Down.

Both county boards seem to have a rule that if you want to transfer between clubs in the counties you have to sit out a year (which would stop transfers like the Sheeny McQuillan one.

I could safely bet that for every transfer in either county, I could name ten or twelve in Antrim.

what thirds goalkeeper are you talking about?

You appear not to have read what I posted.  My point was that the county under-21 keeper from a couple of years ago, Stephen Harbinson, was on his third club (St. Teresa's), having fallen out with his two previous ones (LD agus Naomh Eoin). I was trying to show the dangers of allowing transfers because of fallouts.

i played last night and we had the sub goalkeeper from the all ireland team playing.

Good to see that you're still getting a game and the obvious strength in depth your club has, but IMHO this is totally irrelevant to the matters being discussed.

if i spelt or wrote something wrong i'm sorry...............nobhead

You made that silent 'k' an invisible one too...sheer genius.

Glensman
Who are you Saffron Sam
Not telling you who I am.

Who are you Saffron Sam to make such an objective call on what, in each instance in my opinion, should be looked at subjectively.
Clearly there was some fall out between the Logans and Ahoghill that made it impossible for them to stay on...sure they not be allowed to play football or have to leave the county.
It isn't a subjective issue.  If there was a disagreement then it should be sorted out inhouse.  Every club in Ireland has internal disputes, but only in Antrim does it seem that these lead to regular transfers.

I will leave now by quoting from the outcome of  DRA case 12 & 13/2005 Pádraig Mac Gothraigh and Conchur Mac Bhranaigh -v- St Joseph 's GAC Glenavy and The Antrim County Committee.

We reject the submission that a player has the automatic right to play for whatever club he chooses and we remind the parties of Rule 32 of the Official Guide as amended:

“As the Gaelic Athletic Association is community centred, based on the allegiance of its members to their local Clubs and Counties, the Transfer and Declaration Rules in this Official Guide and in County Bye Laws reflect that ethos. A player is considered to owe allegiance and loyalty to his Home Club and County, as defined in these Rules.”
 
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 07, 2007, 09:27:42 AM
brilliant, we have a new chairman/woman here. with his/her spelling and grammer knowledge and understanding of the rules of the Gaelic Athletic Association he can make Antrim a force to be reckoned with ;D

i'm sure there are valid reasons for all of those transfers who are you to give off about players moving, from club to club
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 07, 2007, 09:50:03 AM
brilliant, we have a new chairman/woman here. with his/her spelling and grammer knowledge and understanding of the rules of the Gaelic Athletic Association he can make Antrim a force to be reckoned with ;D

i'm sure there are valid reasons for all of those transfers who are you to give off about players moving, from club to club
Humour me then, give me a valid reason for any of the transfers I've mentioned.  Fall outs and ambitions to play at a higher level are not valid reasons.

It's grammar, by the way.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on September 07, 2007, 09:51:37 AM

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It's grammar, by the way.
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 :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 07, 2007, 10:16:35 AM
The Grahams started at Rossa - moved to Cushendun - and then moved back.

My opinion is the reason we have all these transfers within the county is because of the city. Realistically Derry is the only other city in ulster and there isn't much gaelic in there which is why there isn't that problem there or in the rest of ulster. Dublin has a significantly worse problem than antrim in this regard. Look at the transfers they talk about.

There are some small clubs in Belfast - who are doing well to progress - but players see successful clubs right on their doorstep and to try and gain success etc. they move there. I would also see the reason of less loyalty in city clubs as a big reason. Most of your transfers are notably among city clubs. Then for some small clubs there aren't even conceivable gaps between the areas they mingle in and the areas of the bigger clubs which their players can go too. In the country your next club is x miles away so in terms of who you mingle with etc. it's a bigger problem.

You also seem to have a chip on your shoulder about galls sam. Any reason for this?

McQuillan was for personal reasons - he's different. Craig - are you sure about his transfer? Craig has played for cargin as long as i've known and as far as i know his family is from cargin.





Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 07, 2007, 10:16:49 AM
I couldn't give a flying f@ck who you actually are SS.

It is completely a subjective issue.
In MOST cases there are valid reasons why players move clubs...it doesn't happen too often in practice (the stats may show it might happen in Antrim more than others) but when it does as a paying member of the GAA, whose rules we are subject to and generally abide by a player should have the right to present his case and it be heard.

If its "I want to move to St Galls/Cargin/Rossa(hurling) as I fancy a trophy" then I have some sympathy for your argument.
If its because:
then your argument however catered for in the rule book should fall by the wayside.

The GAA generally needs to look after the common every day player.
The most important was of doing this is by giving the common every day player more fixtures (the ongoing debate).
BUT it should look at the grievances of that player where they have some, which is often fall out with clubs/practicalities of playing.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 07, 2007, 10:18:39 AM
I tried to get all fancy with the bullet points...roll on the abuse from Principal SS (or should that be principle?!)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on September 07, 2007, 03:09:15 PM
The Grahams started at Rossa - moved to Cushendun - and then moved back.

My opinion is the reason we have all these transfers within the county is because of the city. Realistically Derry is the only other city in ulster and there isn't much gaelic in there which is why there isn't that problem there or in the rest of ulster. Dublin has a significantly worse problem than antrim in this regard. Look at the transfers they talk about.

There are some small clubs in Belfast - who are doing well to progress - but players see successful clubs right on their doorstep and to try and gain success etc. they move there. I would also see the reason of less loyalty in city clubs as a big reason. Most of your transfers are notably among city clubs. Then for some small clubs there aren't even conceivable gaps between the areas they mingle in and the areas of the bigger clubs which their players can go too. In the country your next club is x miles away so in terms of who you mingle with etc. it's a bigger problem.

You also seem to have a chip on your shoulder about galls sam. Any reason for this?

McQuillan was for personal reasons - he's different. Craig - are you sure about his transfer? Craig has played for cargin as long as i've known and as far as i know his family is from cargin.


They must have been about 5 when they were at Rossa, i remember them playing U-16 for St Pats (an underage amalgamation of Glenariffe/Cushendun). They also won a minor county championship with St Pats.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on September 07, 2007, 03:16:40 PM
They did start at Rossa alright but were quite young when they were there. I heard the da (the handball man whose name I can't remember) stopped them from moving back to Rossa on numerous occasions before the eventual move.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on September 07, 2007, 03:18:40 PM
They did start at Rossa alright but were quite young when they were there. I heard the da (the handball man whose name I can't remember) stopped them from moving back to Rossa on numerous occasions before the eventual move.

Seamus Graham is said handball fella.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on September 07, 2007, 03:19:49 PM
That's the one!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on September 08, 2007, 03:29:41 PM
Maneely Mc Cann Minor Championship Final
Rossa  3-5  2-5 Sarsfields
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on September 08, 2007, 08:02:25 PM
Maneely Mc Cann Minor Championship Final
Rossa  3-5  2-5 Sarsfields

When i was walking into Casement last night before the Minor hurling final some of the dejected Sarsfields players were walking out, one was telling a few of his mates what particular assortment of beverages he had in his kitbag for the night ahead (none were isotonic), good to see such meticulous preparation for a big match at such a tender age.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Stmalachy on September 11, 2007, 12:28:14 AM
Milltownrow-is it true that you kicked Ballinderry's ass in a friendly game on Sunday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 11, 2007, 08:36:39 AM
we won by 2 points in a meaningless friendly, few boys missing from us and mcGuckin missing for Ballinderry.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 11, 2007, 08:46:20 AM
we won by 2 points in a meaningless friendly, few boys missing from us and mcGuckin missing for Ballinderry.

Meaningless yes, but highly lucrative also. And in doing so, you disgraced the Antrim senior hurling championship.  Shame.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 11, 2007, 09:30:49 AM
your such a tit saff, you have a real boner for Naomh Gall.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 11, 2007, 10:52:07 AM
your such a tit saff, you have a real boner for Naomh Gall.
Don't shoot the messenger man.  You can tell the rest of the board the whole details.  The personal abuse only highlights the weakness of your position.

By the way, your denotes possession, in the same way as my, his, her, its etc.  You should have used you're or you are instead.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 11, 2007, 11:22:34 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

what position? and (you are) the one with the personal attacks regarding grammar, get a life man, get your head out of the dictionary.

cant wait for my mistakes to be highlighted again
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2007, 12:01:49 PM
Sam what is your problem with St Galls? (yes your)

You seemed to have a big rant about them and the Paddy Cunningham transfer and then proceeded to tell us that you already knew it wasn't happening! Somewhat bitter about something me thinks...

You highlighted numerous transfers - some of which were St Galls but not too many - so why do you not have the same issue with other clubs making transfers as you have with St Galls?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 11, 2007, 01:56:13 PM
Sam what is your problem with St Galls? (yes your)
Absolutely no problem with St. Gall's - I have even taken their side in some debates on this board.  In fact, some high profile club members have sat beside me whilst I posted their thoughts about St. Gall's on the board.  I do have a problem with many specific things within the GAA - I will have no bother highlighting these at any time.  If these involve St. Gall's, St. Paul's, Lamh Dhearg etc. it will make no difference. I am not a current member of any club in Belfast (although I have been repeatedly asked to join a certain one) so this gives me the opportunity to be totally objective about all issues.

You seemed to have a big rant about them and the Paddy Cunningham transfer and then proceeded to tell us that you already knew it wasn't happening! Somewhat bitter about something me thinks...
No what I said was
if you know him so well then you would know that he  was not coming anyway

It seems that the transfer is not going to go through which is the correct course of action.
Don't try to misquote me.  I highlighted the transfer because it was topical and indictitive of (IMNSHO) of a general problem in Antrim. Had the transfer involved any other two clubs in the county I would still have highlighted it.

You highlighted numerous transfers - some of which were St Galls but not too many - so why do you not have the same issue with other clubs making transfers as you have with St Galls?
Unfortunately, you have not been on the board long enough to remember the debate I had with SlimShady about Cargin's transfer dealings.  My position was the same then as now. I highlighted the Cunningham story now because it is current and I could verfiy the truth of the situation.  For example, I have not discussed the alleged Magill transfer, because it is simply a rumour.  If this is a genuine story, then my opinion and force of argument would be identical. Likewise my position on all the transfers I highlighted is the same - I would have been against them all.  But since we're on it, the worst transfer in my list was McQuillan's - how can you justify leaving a club one year and returing the next.  The GAA rule book doesn't allow that.

I am also entitled to highlight a situation where a club will play a virtual reserve team in a senior championship hurling match to allow their footballers to play a challenge game, a game in which allegedly there was a considerable purse available to the winners.  Do you think this is right?

You may not like what I write, but you will get consistency.

I also think you made a few reasonable points regarding transfers and the city, but I haven't completed my submissions regarding these.  I will in due time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 11, 2007, 02:00:43 PM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

what position? and (you are) the one with the personal attacks regarding grammar, get a life man, get your head out of the dictionary.

cant wait for my mistakes to be highlighted again

No point in trying to discuss GAA issues rationally with you.

However

cant = insincere or to talk hypocritically
can't = abbreviated form of cannot.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 11, 2007, 02:15:29 PM
yeah, is that you done now?

now football talk, can Port-glen-one beat Naomh Gall? (the team of players from everywhere else)

i hope the match is competitive and on before the hurling final, keep me out of the bar untill later in the day. any word from ports men out there?

how's your preperation going and your views on how to stop CJ and Karl Stewart from scoring?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2007, 02:39:39 PM
Portglenone have defenders who are much more capable of curtailing the damage them two boys do to some extent. Between Paddy Carey, Convery and maybe John McKeever if he moves back they could restrict a bit of damage.

Storey and McCarry - I think that is still their midfield partnership? - should compete anyway at midfield(actually now I think about it I think a young McKeever is in midfield so he must be good to be displacing one of those two boys). Owen Doherty is also excellent at winning break ball. However from there up I just don't see them competing. I don't think they'll be blown away like Creggan but I think they will fall a bit short. Gerard McAleese seems like their best forward and I still think he's a bit light so a good defender , I think, would hold him. McCallion is good for frees but not sure about general play.

Galls have Stewart and McGourty for scores plus I would assume that the other McGourty(Kieran not the might one) is back who is also handy. They also have Sean Kelly and is McClean playing in defense who should be fit to dominate. That and I'm sure I'm missing a few boys too. McRory and whoever else can usually hold their own at midfield there too.

In midfield and defense Portglenone should, I would expect, compete better than Creggan but I wouldn't expect any domination there. Still they've nothing to lose.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 11, 2007, 02:42:24 PM
yeah, is that you done now?

now football talk, can Port-glen-one beat Naomh Gall? (the team of players from everywhere else)

i hope the match is competitive and on before the hurling final, keep me out of the bar untill later in the day. any word from ports men out there?

how's your preperation going and your views on how to stop CJ and Karl Stewart from scoring?

No, Portglenone will not get close to beating St. Gall's. You will win it by as much as you want.  I would propose a similar structure in the football championship as that which is used in hurling.  This would allow the two best teams in the county to compete in the final and not the mixum-gatherum that is Portglenone.

I don't think any team in Antrim could stop those two boys if they are on song - in fact you will probably remember me championing Stewart for the Antrim football team.

Appropriate use of the apostrophe.  Well done.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 11, 2007, 05:08:24 PM
"Mixum-gatherum" - Will you please define O lord of the Dictionary/Grammar?

Do you mean that they are generally a mixed up bunch and confused on the field of play or are you criticising the origin of their players...again?

If it is the latter you have an awful lot of hang ups about players from other clubs. I would wager that whatever club from which you hail there have been transfers as well. It is the way of the world.

Really not sure how Portglenone will fair. They will put it up to them I hope. They is no call for freezing on the BIG stage as they have been there before.


As regards CJ and Stewart how do they be stopped in Antrim (whether or not by Portglenone)...can they be intimidated out of it, double marked - just interested to see what people think of players who are supposedly unmarkable.
Wouldn't condone cynical tactics on anyone but it clearly must cross peoples minds.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2007, 05:20:41 PM
IMO Stewart is not unmarkable and Portglenone have boys who can do a job on him.  If a surplus of ball comes in though he would maybe eventually do some damage.How much damage did he do against Creggan - it wasn't that much was it?

McGourty however is a different kettle of fish but he is petulant and petulant people generally can be thrown off their game so I suppose intimidation could be considered. I've never considered Portglenone a particularly dirty team though so doubt they'd stoop to that.

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on September 12, 2007, 09:43:58 AM
Good win for the Dunloy lads last night in the intermediate championship, beat Ballymena 2-10 to 1-8, i hard to leave the game early with Dunloy up by 8 points and playing really well so was somewhat surprised to hear we needed a late goal to fend off a Ballymena comeback

Sets up a final with St Enda's, a team i can never remember Dunloy playing, that is if the final goes ahead, a man at the match last night was telling Rossa are still appealing being thrown out and have a good chance.  what would happen their, would it be a redraw again or would Enda's and Rossa simply play off,
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on September 12, 2007, 09:50:33 AM
What date is the county final between the Ports and St Galls.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 12, 2007, 10:06:33 AM
the 7th of October, double header with the county hurling and football finals at Casement

who will win the Derry final? and what way are the ulster draws set up this year.

i'm not saying who will win antrim as i will be cheering on whoever wins, when the antrim championship is over.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 12, 2007, 10:09:21 AM
the 7th of October, double header with the county hurling and football finals at Casement

who will win the Derry final? and what way are the ulster draws set up this year.

i'm not saying who will win antrim as i will be cheering on whoever wins, when the antrim championship is over.
Derry and Antrim champions would meet at semi-final stage if St. Gall's see off either the Donegal or Cavan champions.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 12, 2007, 10:39:03 AM
"Mixum-gatherum" - Will you please define O lord of the Dictionary/Grammar?

Do you mean that they are generally a mixed up bunch and confused on the field of play or are you criticising the origin of their players...again?
No, I simply means that in terms of good championship teams of the past (Cargin, St. Paul's etc) or excellent teams like the current St. Gall's one, they compare very unfavourably. Their best player has retired, their remaining better ones are ageing, the Bellaghy reserves have retreated back across the Bann and they have too many gaps to be plugged with club journeymen.  That they have a decent club despite the constant intimidation by their "neighbours" is an achievement; that they are in this year's final is a result of a handy draw and an indictment of the current state of Antrim club football.  Hence mixum-gatherum is an appropriate term.

Sets up a final with St Enda's, a team i can never remember Dunloy playing, that is if the final goes ahead, a man at the match last night was telling Rossa are still appealing being thrown out and have a good chance.  what would happen their, would it be a redraw again or would Enda's and Rossa simply play off,
Rossa still appealing and by all accounts, they will win their appeal either at Ulster Council level or the DRA.  However, they feel that because the championship has progressed so far, it is unlikely they will be re-admitted this year. It appears to this neutral observer somewhat typical of the Antrim county board but even by their standards I have rarely heard such a sordid account of drawn games, missing extra time, refixtures, unilateral decision making, individuals not knowing the rules, water carriers, byelaws, CCCs, sex, requests for information, written requests for information, written requests to acknowledge written requests, phantom phone calls, sausage roll baps and personal vendattas.  When I last heard Rossa were waiting for Fergal Logan to return from holiday before moving the case forward.

I made one part of that paragraph up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on September 14, 2007, 08:46:48 PM
From what I hear, Rossa put their appeal in on the Monday before the replay (Wednesday).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 14, 2007, 09:08:36 PM
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Rossa have got away with an awful lot over the years

I'd be interested in hearing a few of these scenarios.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on September 14, 2007, 09:15:26 PM
There was an incident a few years ago where Rossa should have been relegated from Div 1. There was some sort of meeting in Casement and the Rossa chairman at the time gave a speech on how Rossa are a great club in Antrim hurling and football. The league was restructured the next year allowing Rossa to stay in Div 1. I think the clubs were asked about it and the majority voted that Rossa should stay in Div 1.
Or something like that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 14, 2007, 09:31:43 PM
At that time hardstation they threatened to pull their players out of the county squad if they got relegated from the football. Lo and behold they finished bottom the leagues were then restructured and no one got relegated.

Anyway I don't have anything personal against them but there are a few instances like this which I feel have finally came back to haunt them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on September 14, 2007, 09:34:23 PM
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At that time hardstation they threatened to pull their players out of the county squad if they got relegated from the football
Oh, didn't know that. Did they have many county players at the time? Connelly/Kettle/Close/Bell?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 14, 2007, 09:35:06 PM
At that time hardstation they threatened to pull their players out of the county squad if they got relegated from the football. Lo and behold they finished bottom the leagues were then restructured and no one got relegated.

Anyway I don't have anything personal against them but there are a few instances like this which I feel have finally came back to haunt them.

Surely there's more to it than that. Were they not relegated the next year?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on September 14, 2007, 09:38:13 PM
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Were they not relegated the next year?
I'm not 100% sure but I think they beat St. Enda's (Div 2 runners up) in a relegation play off.
The whole thing was a mess at that time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 14, 2007, 09:44:18 PM
They beat Aghagallon in a play off the following year and then got relegated the year after that. Obviously none of us can state unequivocally that this is what happened but the word is/was that they threatened to pull their county players out with them having a few influential ones in Connolly and Kettle and a few others too in Bell(if he played county then which I think he did) and Hamill.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on September 14, 2007, 09:49:26 PM
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They beat Aghagallon in a play off the following year
You could be right but I remember watching them playing and beating St. Enda's in an awful dirty affair. They were celebrating after it. I'm nearly sure it was a relegation play off.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 14, 2007, 09:50:53 PM
You might be right and I might be missing a year actually - the aghagallon one might have been two years later.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on September 14, 2007, 09:53:00 PM
I don't know. As I said, it was a mess at that time. The clubs didn't even know who they were playing and what the matches meant. I think the county board made it up as they went along.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 14, 2007, 09:58:29 PM
Relegation was one down and next two play off to play the winners of the division two play off. It wasn't a mess in general - it just became one that year when what was stated at the start of the year was went back on...

Anyway I think a strong Rossa is good for Antrim and I hope they come back up in the football.What happened happened and hopefully won't again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on September 15, 2007, 08:19:31 PM
I see Longstone beat St Galls by 10 in Kilmacud 7's final today.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 15, 2007, 10:25:10 PM
yeah beat us handy enough from the reports i got back from some players. we beat longstone in the final 2 years ago so plenty of reason to win this one for them? ar ethey in the down final
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 16, 2007, 09:53:16 PM
Any word on kevin mcgourty coming back for you guys milltown?

Love him or hate him I think he's a boy you will need if you have aspirations of winning the Ulster club again.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on September 16, 2007, 10:40:29 PM
He's back as far as I know. I take it he has already started training with St. Galls.

All will be revealed in a two page spread in Irish News in coming weeks.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on September 16, 2007, 10:44:44 PM
No doubt his pizza face will be in the paper. Perhaps tomorrow, overshadowing the AIF.

I think one of those clown Irish News reporters lives nearby to him so we shouldnt have to wait long......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on September 16, 2007, 10:49:46 PM
Maybe he'll join his brother for another photo shoot in Woodlands.

Aye i saw that couple of weeks ago,its one of the reasons i dont read the Irish News that often.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 17, 2007, 10:08:22 AM
Sam at the time of the proceeding St Enda's match do you know for sure that Rossa had actually lodged an appeal? From my reading into it I'm not entirely sure they had ,at that point, got an appeal in.

I'm not so sure about personal agendas here. Rossa have got away with an awful lot over the years and I would guess worst case what was said here was enough is enough rather than any agenda. The way they pulled out of that game was ridiculous.

There is no doubt again that there is validity in the argument about Rossa over the years, particularly in terms of how they avoided relegation on occasions.  However, whilst interesting in terms of conspiracy theories, none of that is in any way relevant to the current case. Rossa and the Antrim County board are both bound by the regulations of the GAA and my reading of the situation is that Rossa have the stronger case. You can't igonre the rules of the GAA because of what may have happened in the past.

I would disagree with hardstation re. the timing of Rossa's appeal and indeed your reading of the situation.  Rossa couldn't appeal until they had been kicked out of the championship, i.e. after the refixed St. Enda's game.  My reading of the timing is drawn match, refixed unplayed match, Rossa bucked out, Rossa appeal, next round played.

If all the quarter finals were played at the same time this would weaken my argument, but I believe that one quarter final was played weeks before the other three.  Can you confirm this?  If yes, why do you think this was the case?

As regards personal vendattas, I don't doubt that this is the case.  Re-read my first post again, O'Neill has obviously heard the same stories and I can guess his source. If I knew you better or had verifiable proof I would have no problem naming the individual involved, rather than his erstwhile role within Antrim Gaa circles (and it's not SlimShady).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on September 17, 2007, 02:31:20 PM
Hmmm this all sounds very interesting. I'll have to do more digging.........
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Aquazur on September 17, 2007, 03:18:32 PM
No doubt his pizza face will be in the paper. Perhaps tomorrow, overshadowing the AIF.

Hardstation, are you still referring to Kevin McGourty here?
whats with the pizza face thing?  ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on September 17, 2007, 06:45:44 PM
Maybe I was being a bit hard on your brother. Sorry.
How was his holiday?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Aquazur on September 17, 2007, 07:37:17 PM
Maybe I was being a bit hard on your brother. Sorry.
How was his holiday?

im sure he had a lovely holiday! always nice to get away at this time of year.
do u have something against kevin mcgourty?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on September 17, 2007, 07:39:43 PM
No
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Aquazur on September 17, 2007, 07:41:47 PM
then why call him pizza face? im in no way his biggest fan but it was a bit childish. would mcgourty or kevin not have done?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on September 17, 2007, 07:45:17 PM
Freudian slip. Sorry shaws road and sorry also to your brother (who apparently is not a fan of yours) Aquazur.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Aquazur on September 17, 2007, 08:03:49 PM
hardstation, mcgourty has his critics but antrim will need him if they are to improve further in the championship.
what has your club brought to the county set up that enables you to slag the likes of mcgourty? a player which is essential to the county set up.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on September 17, 2007, 08:16:31 PM
hardstation, mcgourty has his critics but antrim will need him if they are to improve further in the championship.
what has your club brought to the county set up that enables you to slag the likes of mcgourty? a player which is essential to the county set up.
What to fcuk are you on about now? Jesus, you jump from one thing to another while clearly licking someones hole on the way. I couldn't give a fcuk what McGourty has to offer Antrim and I don't give a fcuk what Antrim has to offer McGourty. So if you want to continue talking about him (even though you're not a fan) send him an email or a PM on this board. His name is 'shaws road' and I'm sure he would love to talk to you.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on September 17, 2007, 08:20:28 PM
Freudian slip. Sorry shaws road and sorry also to your brother (who apparently is not a fan of yours) Aquazur.

Explain Hardstation like a good chap, is it not all skipping through the meadows hand in hand in Castle Mc Gourty?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on September 17, 2007, 08:23:38 PM
Mr Aquazur is another shaws road type character. He was a bit late on hiding his email address. He then claims he is not a fan of Kevin. "Ooops, sorry bro. Didn't know you read the board."
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on September 17, 2007, 08:30:47 PM
Did the spastic not hide his email address? You would have been better saying nothing just to see what we got out of him......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Aquazur on September 17, 2007, 08:35:49 PM
Did the spastic not hide his email address? You would have been better saying nothing just to see what we got out of him......

quite insulting!

as for my email address i dont see how you can tell who i am. my name isnt Mr. Scouse  :-\

and as for mr mcgourty (or pizza face as you like to call him) i also couldnt care less and i said im not his biggest fan. im indifferent to him.

you seem to be very agressive when it comes to the subject of mcgourty yet you say you dont care.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on September 17, 2007, 08:38:43 PM
Unless you've changed your email address since I read it earlier.
Pizza face is hardly aggressive.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Aquazur on September 17, 2007, 08:42:11 PM
Unless you've changed your email address since I read it earlier.

nope.  ??? oh you mean the "im_a_relation_of_kevin_mcgourty@yahoo.com" one?? ah shit yes, changed it since that.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on September 17, 2007, 08:44:17 PM
That wasn't it but anyway I'm bored with you and your family now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Aquazur on September 17, 2007, 08:47:02 PM
what actually makes you think i am related to him?? because i half stood up for him when you called him a name?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on September 17, 2007, 09:34:15 PM
Always fun in Antrim!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 18, 2007, 08:28:18 AM
lads regardless of how people feel about fellow gaels lets keep the cheap remarks for the hogan stand, surprised at you hardstation, balboa don't you be jumping on the band wagon either.

Aquazur dont be biting
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on September 18, 2007, 09:00:03 PM
I'm devastated for the lad.
 ???
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 18, 2007, 09:48:54 PM
My sources in Dublin tell me the Galls lads were out heartily celebrating Longstone's win in the 7s. A prominent Galls stalwart was seen ordering expensive champagne for all and sundry. He was also seen wearing an expensive new pair of gutties on the Monday. What's the story there? Are the clubs good friends?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Orior on September 19, 2007, 10:00:59 AM
Antrim star in foreign game shocker!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSWJ-RH56B8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSWJ-RH56B8)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 19, 2007, 11:48:16 AM
That's a bloody good goal!!

Him and the brother play for a team in Belfast - not sure the name.

Sure young McGourty plays for DC and McGreevey played for them for a long while.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on September 19, 2007, 12:04:45 PM
Who is it? Cant access Youtube at work.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on September 19, 2007, 12:25:04 PM
Who is it? Cant access Youtube at work.

Tomas McCann of Cargin
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Aquazur on September 19, 2007, 02:24:02 PM
I'm devastated for the lad.
 ???

Id be devastated if I were you as well C.F
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: NICSSA on September 24, 2007, 01:59:37 PM
After checking the Antrim Website, Who the hell is responsible for arranging the fixtures?

Next weekend we were due to play Rasharkin but this has been changed as they are in the junior hurling final, the match has been refixed for Sunday 21st October. The day previous we are fixed to play Rossa.

If thats not bad enough over weekend 13/14th October we are down to play Sarsfields on Sunday and Davitts on Saturday (believe it or not at 7.00 in the evening) Also our hurlers have a match scheduled for the Saturday. How is it possible to play 4 matches in 2 weekends as well as throwing in hurling?

The last round of league games were due to be played 10th November but these have been changed to 6th/7th October (originally a free weekend as its county final)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 25, 2007, 12:17:36 AM
I think Stephen Wonder is the new head of fixtures in antrim- sure St Enda's are down to play Sarsfields in Div 2 league on sat at 3 then are down to play Dunloy THAT SAME EVENNG at 830 at Casement in the IFC final!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 27, 2007, 03:46:17 PM
seems the move of cunningham to Naomh Gall has came through according to the hogan stand. can Saffron sam  confirm?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 27, 2007, 04:14:22 PM
Is the Intermediate final due to be played this weekend? does anyone know the time and venue?

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: aontroim on September 27, 2007, 05:05:59 PM
From the front of the county website;

http://antrim.gaa.ie

JFC / IFC Final on Say 29th under lights.

7pm JFC Ahoghill v St. Agnes'
8:15pm IFC Dunloy v St. Enda's
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on September 27, 2007, 05:08:59 PM
www.antrimgaa.net will sort you out stiffler.
Big poster on there - Under lights.
Junior - Ahoghill v St Agnes 7pm
Intermediate - Dunloy v St Endas 8.15pm

Predictions:
Ahoghill (know nothing of this one)
Dunloy (here's hoping anyway - Dunloy could do with some recognition for battling away at the football as well).
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 27, 2007, 05:46:44 PM
Ahoghill shouldn't be near a junior championship - they're streets ahead of anything in that competition and should win by about ten. They should really challenge for Ulster in that competition too.

The intermediate should be interesting. I think Dunloy may just be too strong but I don't think there'll be much in the game at all. I don't think there's too much of an overlap with the hurlers these days so they shouldn't be impacted in that regard.

I would imagine all the Cunningham chat on the hogan stand site is rubbish.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 28, 2007, 10:11:23 AM
Cheers lads. Should be a good nights football tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on September 28, 2007, 11:18:11 AM
intommygunn,

still a right few dual players in Dunloy yet, tomorrow night Gareth McAllister, Paudie Shivers, Colm Cunning, Darren Webb, Conor McKinley, Kevin McQuillian & Cahir Cunning will all be playing and hoping to play the following week.

Although gone are the days when 13 players togged out for both teams, of those above 3 where involved last week against the Dall
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 28, 2007, 03:19:33 PM
Not too many starters there though max...

If all your hurlers played football over the years you'd have had some fine football teams. Pity your football suffered on account of the hurling. Dick O'Kane, Gary O'Kane, patch, Conor Cunning, Elliots etc. would have been very handy footballers.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on September 28, 2007, 03:45:57 PM
Indeed they were, all these boys did play together for one year, we got to the semi final of the championship only to be beat in a tight game by Cargin over in rasharkin.  Don't think they had trained once all year, but still a very good team
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 28, 2007, 03:53:24 PM
I actually remember being at that game. Gary O'Kane left footed free taker and wee Eamon McKee playing too if I mind rightly.

Blondie Gallagher beat youse that day if I mind rightly. Then Cargin got beat in the final by St Pauls.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 28, 2007, 08:25:40 PM
seems the move of cunningham to Naomh Gall has came through according to the hogan stand. can Saffron sam  confirm?

According to an un-named source close to the player, he will be lining out for for Lamh Dhearg in their next match.  Hope this helps.

Indeed they were, all these boys did play together for one year, we got to the semi final of the championship only to be beat in a tight game by Cargin over in rasharkin.  Don't think they had trained once all year, but still a very good team
I remember another close Dunloy match against St. Gall's also in Rasharkin (part of a double header with St. John's / Cargin (the famed Eddie McToal lasted about 8 seconds)). There is no doubt if all the hurlers had concentrated on the football, Dunloy would have been a great side and a very clean, sporting one at that. Nipper played a bit of football as well.  I always thought Scruff McIlhatton was a half decent footballer.  What ever happened Yucker, haven't seen him mentioned in years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on September 28, 2007, 08:54:27 PM
Yucker is down in Clonduff. Married Ross Carr's sister many moons ago and headed down there to put down roots. Think he still teaches up in Belfast (Sean MCGourty's school) if I'm not mistaken? Good lad yucker.

Eventually beat St Galls one year up in Casement. Can't remember the year. Don't know if it was a shock to them or not but Dunloy thought it was a great victory at the time?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 28, 2007, 09:39:09 PM
Yucker is down in Clonduff. Married Ross Carr's sister many moons ago and headed down there to put down roots. Think he still teaches up in Belfast (Sean MCGourty's school) if I'm not mistaken? Good lad yucker.

Eventually beat St Galls one year up in Casement. Can't remember the year. Don't know if it was a shock to them or not but Dunloy thought it was a great victory at the time?

Feck, I never put two and two together.  Always knew him as Yucker, thought he might have been McGilligan but wasn't sure. None of them Dunloy boys had real names.  I have come across him a few times recently without realising.  A good lad is Alastair.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Hungry Exile on September 29, 2007, 07:11:53 AM
Perhaps i can help....to get a transfer in Derry to another club...is like getting blood from a stone

Max,
Rich from you  - Did Bellaghy no start with Ronan Rocks (ala Loup) & Gavin Diamond (did he not start with Lavey) in the last championship match?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on September 29, 2007, 09:37:49 AM
Yucker is down in Clonduff. Married Ross Carr's sister many moons ago and headed down there to put down roots. Think he still teaches up in Belfast (Sean MCGourty's school) if I'm not mistaken? Good lad yucker.

Eventually beat St Galls one year up in Casement. Can't remember the year. Don't know if it was a shock to them or not but Dunloy thought it was a great victory at the time?

Feck, I never put two and two together.  Always knew him as Yucker, thought he might have been McGilligan but wasn't sure. None of them Dunloy boys had real names.  I have come across him a few times recently without realising.  A good lad is Alastair.

Is it Thomas Mc Gilligan you are talking about? he was also known as "Bograt" !!! He went to St Marys teacher training & said to Chris Hamill once" i bet you youse boys didnt think i would have got to St Marys" to which Hamill replied " Thomas i didnt think you could spell St Marys"........End of conversation.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 29, 2007, 02:40:50 PM
Hungry I'm no expert but I'd very much doubt a Diamond started out at Lavey.

Whatever happened to bograt - he was the best player at his age for Dunloy and now I don't see him in football or hurling...
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on September 29, 2007, 02:42:48 PM
Quote
Whatever happened to bograt - he was the best player at his age for Dunloy and now I don't see him in football or hurling...
Maybe he threw the head up because he kept being called Bograt.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on September 29, 2007, 03:16:13 PM
Such wit Rocky ....you literally are the man of the one liners (judging by the number of lines in most of your posts). Adrian must never get a word in edge ways.

FYI the said person is quite a decent fella and didn't have that nickname. There wouldn't be too many people in our club who put in the same effort. He trains & plays in both codes, coaches as well as referees and is well liked by those who know him, hence the reason why this type of limp character assasination irritates me. But hey don't let those things get in the way of a good  :-\ story

I'm sure you can bring more to these discussions rather than spout shite like this. If you'd any decency you'd remove that message

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on September 29, 2007, 08:46:36 PM
Such wit Rocky ....you literally are the man of the one liners (judging by the number of lines in most of your posts). Adrian must never get a word in edge ways.

FYI the said person is quite a decent fella and didn't have that nickname. There wouldn't be too many people in our club who put in the same effort. He trains & plays in both codes, coaches as well as referees and is well liked by those who know him, hence the reason why this type of limp character assasination irritates me. But hey don't let those things get in the way of a good  :-\ story

I'm sure you can bring more to these discussions rather than spout shite like this. If you'd any decency you'd remove that message


Skull you are so far up your own arse its unbelievable but i will agree with you Mc Gilligan is a good lad alright, why should i remove that message? the anecdote i mentioned took place and Mc Gilligan took it in good spirit & as for the nickname Mc Gilligan never had a problem being called it so why the hell should you? You shouldnt take yourself so seriously because i dont think anyone else does.Character assasination? catch yourself on and dont be so precious.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on September 29, 2007, 09:04:29 PM
4 lines this time Rocky....must have had some effect on you  :-*

You might want to explain why I'm so far up my own arse, because only by responding to you have I got you to acknowledge that he is indeed a good lad? I don't think anybody would have got that from your first post, in fact they would get completely the opposite. I said if you had any decency you would remove the message. I didn't think you would. I got what I wanted from my reply so no regrets. He's a good lad and now everybody that reads this will see that. 

Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SeanSouth on September 29, 2007, 09:51:40 PM
4 lines this time Rocky....must have had some effect on you  :-*

You might want to explain why I'm so far up my own arse, because only by responding to you have I got you to acknowledge that he is indeed a good lad? I don't think anybody would have got that from your first post, in fact they would get completely the opposite. I said if you had any decency you would remove the message. I didn't think you would. I got what I wanted from my reply so no regrets. He's a good lad and now everybody that reads this will see that. 



I have maybe missed something skull between you and Balboa but what does the length/brevity of someones posts prove? Some people on here say a lot and fcuk all at the same time.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 29, 2007, 11:30:44 PM
who won the intermediate??
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on September 29, 2007, 11:32:50 PM
Dunno but here's the Junior;
Ahoghill - 0-14
St. Agnes - 1-05
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on September 29, 2007, 11:39:20 PM
Perhaps i can help....to get a transfer in Derry to another club...is like getting blood from a stone

Max,
Rich from you  - Did Bellaghy no start with Ronan Rocks (ala Loup) & Gavin Diamond (did he not start with Lavey) in the last championship match?

Hi tool, Rocks lives in bellaghy, has been living their for the past five years and is married to a Bellaghy woman. he is now a father of a young boy who will of course play for the blues. He is fully integrated into the community and pays his dues to the local church ;) Gavain Diamond is born and bred in the area of ballynease, which is the parish of Bellaghy, he has played all his football for bellaghy from the day he was born :P
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on September 29, 2007, 11:42:36 PM
Some might say that Ronan Rocks is under the thumb. Fair play to the lad though, he hasn't had it easy.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 29, 2007, 11:46:53 PM
aye saw that junior result on the antrim website H'station but was wanting to know that internediate one
Saw the lights on and was gonna head 2 the match but family turned up so cudnt go.

would say that ahoghill team should put up a better showing than our previous junior representatives in the last few years who have been atricious and nothin short of an embarrassment to the county
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on September 29, 2007, 11:59:47 PM
I have maybe missed something skull between you and Balboa but what does the length/brevity of someones posts prove? Some people on here say a lot and fcuk all at the same time.

Then there are some people who say very little and say f**k all as a result....I have no idea what point your trying to make?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on September 30, 2007, 12:35:41 PM
who won the intermediate??

Dunloy won by 12 points
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on September 30, 2007, 05:36:03 PM
wot was the score? thought the Enda's wudda done better

-dunloy mite win a game or 2 in ulster--u'd like to think so as they must be the only Div 1 team in Ulster playin in the Intermediate Ulster Club--if St Brigids from Div 3 could draw and throw the game away to get bait by a poin by the Tyrone champs then Dunloy surely must b lookin 2 win the thing

no doubt ahoghill think they'll b back in croker..
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on October 01, 2007, 10:05:09 AM
well done to the Dunloy footballers on winning the Intermediate Championship on Sat night.  played really well and have a deadly sharp forward unit on that showing.

Finally after 5 years of trying at intermediate level can the boys now give senior a lash
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Last Man on October 01, 2007, 11:00:15 AM
The best team won no doubt about it. A couple of soft goals conceded killed St.Endas plus the pace of the Dunloy attack. See the Dunloy Celtic supporters club turned up to, smokin in the stand, carryouts at their feet, soccer tops. Well done Dunloy, a fantastic achievement for any dual club but leave these hallions at home.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: maxpower on October 01, 2007, 11:17:55 AM
I think it was a case of some lads could decide to go out on the lash or go and watch the team so did both, a consequence of playing a 8:30pm on saturday night, a couple of hours earilier and their have been no problem.

To be honest they didn't behave particularly badly, a bit of foul language but nothing serious
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 01, 2007, 11:22:53 AM
Expected a better showing for Endas, but I think the 2 1st half goals within a minute was a killer blow. Dunloy made the extra man count in the 2nd half, and in the end deserved their win.

I hope now that Dunloy and Ahoghill can go on and succeed in the Ulster series.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: SeanSouth on October 01, 2007, 11:54:43 AM
The best team won no doubt about it. A couple of soft goals conceded killed St.Endas plus the pace of the Dunloy attack. See the Dunloy Celtic supporters club turned up to, smokin in the stand, carryouts at their feet, soccer tops. Well done Dunloy, a fantastic achievement for any dual club but leave these hallions at home.

I think its fair to say Dunloy have had this type of element in their support for a while now.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: theskull1 on October 01, 2007, 12:08:07 PM
I think its fair to say Dunloy have had this type of element in their support for a while now.

What? Scummy Bandwagoners? Doesn't every successful team get them at that stage of competition? I wish they weren't there either as they do nothing for their clubs but it's a free country and they pay their money at the gate so what do you do? I would have expected stewards to have taken the carryouts off them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 03, 2007, 01:37:33 PM
No chat about the ports V St galls on Sunday. is a massive upset on the cards? The Ports played G'ullin in a challenge 2 weeks ago and really put it up to them.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: loughshore lad on October 03, 2007, 01:40:16 PM
No chat about the ports V St galls on Sunday. is a massive upset on the cards? The Ports played G'ullin in a challenge 2 weeks ago and really put it up to them.

Are you eyeing up a potential derby later on down the line max??  ;)
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 03, 2007, 01:42:59 PM
No chat about the ports V St galls on Sunday. is a massive upset on the cards? The Ports played G'ullin in a challenge 2 weeks ago and really put it up to them.

Are you eyeing up a potential derby later on down the line max??  ;)

That would some thought...revenge on St.Galls would be better thou


i am amazed that John Joe has not been on here offering his words of wisdom, especially with the ports
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 03, 2007, 03:24:20 PM
Seems very strange that there has been no hype from the ports men on this site, is there a media ban on, no comments on how things are going, Max we played Ballinderry a few weeks ago and beat them, this result means nothing now that they were well and truly dumped by G'ullin

Was this a bad day at the office or are the G'ullin team up to the task?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 03, 2007, 03:26:05 PM
Seems very strange that there has been no hype from the ports men on this site, is there a media ban on, no comments on how things are going, Max we played Ballinderry a few weeks ago and beat them, this result means nothing now that they were well and truly dumped by G'ullin

Was this a bad day at the office or are the G'ullin team up to the task?


Any team that has Paddy and Eoin Bradley will take abit of watching. They are well organised and very hungry
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 03, 2007, 04:16:02 PM
It's very hard to see anything other than a St Galls win. Portglenone have some decent players granted but none of them seemed to ever make the cut of county football whereas St Galls have quite a few who have.

In saying that I think Portglenone have capable enough defenders so young CJ won't score anything like 2-7 and it should be tighter than the Creggan game. I'd love to see Portglenone win, no offense Milltown, but I just can't see it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 03, 2007, 11:41:17 PM
St Galls will win this by 9-12 points.

Are Lamh Dhearg down yet?
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 04, 2007, 11:28:20 AM
If my memory serves me well I think that the last time they played in the county final it was brutal game. A point in at half time...someting like taht!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 04, 2007, 01:55:54 PM
ports played a very negitive game that day, flooded midfield and defence, we never got out of first gear and were never really troubled. will be totally different this time round (i hope)

i hope Ports come out and try and play football. they ran us close in the league games, and have done over the last few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on October 04, 2007, 03:26:15 PM
As Slim (Where has he really gone?) lambasted me for putting any stock in Portglenone running St Galls close in the league I am inclined to agree with him in this instance.

I pray that this is not the case but if St Galls turn it on, and in a county final they should do, they should run out winners by 8-12 points.

Am hoping for some sort of upset, even running them close, but I fear not.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on October 05, 2007, 08:12:50 PM
Hard to see anything other than a big victory for Naomh Gall.  You can't compare this game with the Glenullen / Ballinderry win, because with the fabulous Baker boys, Glenullen always had a puncher's chance. Portglenone, on the other hand don't have a single forward who would make the St. Gall's forward line.  It;s very nice to see a wee club like Portglenone, who have suffered and continue to suffer from the naked sectarian bigotry of their neighbours, make a county final, but that's all they'll do. Their manager is a failure and was rail-roaded out of his home club and county - what would that say about Antrim football were he to be successful in Aontroim.

However, I detect more than a hint of over confidence down Milltown Row.  If St. Gall's were playing Cargin would Kevin McGourty be starting on the bench. I also could have sworn that I saw a St. Gall's man (wearing a Roma top) at Old Trafford on Tuesday night and the same boyo at Celtic Park 24 hours later.  He was telling anyone who would listen "Didn't I tell you to back Longstone".
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on October 05, 2007, 09:56:17 PM
Hard to see anything other than a big victory for Naomh Gall.  You can't compare this game with the Glenullen / Ballinderry win, because with the fabulous Baker boys, Glenullen always had a puncher's chance. Portglenone, on the other hand don't have a single forward who would make the St. Gall's forward line.  It;s very nice to see a wee club like Portglenone, who have suffered and continue to suffer from the naked sectarian bigotry of their neighbours, make a county final, but that's all they'll do. Their manager is a failure and was rail-roaded out of his home club and county - what would that say about Antrim football were he to be successful in Aontroim.

However, I detect more than a hint of over confidence down Milltown Row.  If St. Gall's were playing Cargin would Kevin McGourty be starting on the bench. I also could have sworn that I saw a St. Gall's man (wearing a Roma top) at Old Trafford on Tuesday night and the same boyo at Celtic Park 24 hours later.  He was telling anyone who would listen "Didn't I tell you to back Longstone".

So the fellas that have been busting their balls all year should quietly step aside and let "Shaws Road" slot in, would do wonders for team morale i would imagine.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on October 05, 2007, 10:04:09 PM
I don't think it's over confidence that they have left him out. He hasn't been there all summer and they have some cracking players capable of replacing him.
Anyway, with or without him playing, I think St. Galls will win at a canter. No disrespect to Portglenone but St. Galls have far too much quality throughout their team.
Galls by 9 or 10 points. I also fancy them in Ulster.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on October 05, 2007, 10:11:53 PM
I do a football syndicate at work where the three of us pick a team each and we do a treble, i was thinking of throwing St Galls on top of the 3 teams at 1/4 just to top up the winnings. They are both "steel rods" so wouldnt know any difference.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 06, 2007, 11:48:19 AM
ciaran mc gourty wont be starting on sunday, and kevin wont be starting on sunday either, simple.

the team thats played most of the championship will line out the same, paddy flan at corner back is the only change due to injury

everybody has us up by 9/10 points it will be closer than that, trust me.

our lads are playing well but this is a one off, anything can happen.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: hardstation on October 06, 2007, 02:30:52 PM
What's the team milltown row?
I still reckon you will walk it but I hope not. Hope it's a good game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on October 07, 2007, 03:12:20 PM
Any scores lads? Have good bit money riding on this.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: glens73 on October 07, 2007, 04:05:01 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7032685.stm

Comfortable for St Galls, apparently a shocking game.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: PlayWithTheWind on October 07, 2007, 06:03:14 PM
I also could have sworn that I saw a St. Gall's man (wearing a Roma top) at Old Trafford on Tuesday night and the same boyo at Celtic Park 24 hours later.  He was telling anyone who would listen "Didn't I tell you to back Longstone".

Ciaran Mcgourty and your right he was at both matches and wearing a roma top! I thought he was motm today!
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: orangeman on October 07, 2007, 09:01:18 PM
Well done to St Galls - hard luck to Portglenone
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 07, 2007, 09:30:54 PM
This is without doubt the worst county final that I have ever the mispleasure to witness. How a team like the ports should get to a county final is not a compliment to the other club teams in Antrim. The Ports deserve credit for getting ther thou as you can only beat whats put up against you. St Galls never really were stretched at any time and the panel they have is top drawer. Gallagher and the Mc Gourty on the subs bench demostrates the quality they have. But they need to kick the ball more to take advantage of the forward line they have. St galls will give the Ulster club a mighty push this yaer...if they dont it would be a crying shame with the team they have. they will improve considerably
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Balboa on October 07, 2007, 09:49:10 PM
This is without doubt the worst county final that I have ever the mispleasure to witness. How a team like the ports should get to a county final is not a compliment to the other club teams in Antrim. The Ports deserve credit for getting ther thou as you can only beat whats put up against you. St Galls never really were stretched at any time and the panel they have is top drawer. Gallagher and the Mc Gourty on the subs bench demostrates the quality they have. But they need to kick the ball more to take advantage of the forward line they have. St galls will give the Ulster club a mighty push this yaer...if they dont it would be a crying shame with the team they have. they will improve considerably

Max you are a master at talking everyone else up, i suppose Bellaghy will probably not even turn up for the Derry final.......
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 07, 2007, 11:33:37 PM
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Max you are a master at talking everyone else up, i suppose Bellaghy will probably not even turn up for the Derry final.......

You would need to be a dummy not to be able to see the quality in that St.Galls side.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 08, 2007, 02:15:23 PM
Gees that was a brutal match.

St Galls are an excellent team and Portglenone were a million miles of them but they were in the final for a reason and to be honest are very probably the second best club in the county.

St Galls could take off a load of better players at the end and still win at their leisure.

They will need to improve to win Ulster and will perhaps be worried by their lack of tight games. However that is a quality side and if you consider Aodhan Gallagher didn't start and neither did Kevin McGourty there'll be more to come from them.

I was surprised McLean got man of the match as I thought Storey did reasonably well on him when he came on. I thought Kieran McGourty would have merited it.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Glensman on October 08, 2007, 06:25:19 PM
Personally I think Cargin are the second best team in the county and fell due to their own complacency.

However, Portglenone if they had taken all their chances in the first half would have gone in level/a point down. And even in the second half...when you are such a heavy underdog everything has to go right for you and you have to take ALL chances presented to them. They didn't.

But I suppose it was the case that St Galls were only going to a level they needed to.

Was CJ injured or just taken off for a rest?

Portglenone are quite a young team still so will be there or thereabouts for the next few years.
Title: Re: Antrim Football Thread
Post by: Gold on October 08, 2007, 11:37:57 PM
Someone said that Portglenone had played noone on the way to the final.
What great teams did they not play that i have missed in Antrim??
Who could they have played?
St Galls are way out in front--then Cargin(who have nowhere near a panel like the Gall's) the