Assaults at GAA games

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Eire90

i see some are blaming drugs

Louther

Quote from: Whishtup on July 07, 2023, 07:05:29 PM
There needs to be clear parameters set out by the Gaa on how we communicate with referees. There needs to be a channel for parents, supporters to give feedback.Then a synchronised stand down across all clubs to set the boundaries with all members mandatory attendance. Cancel all matches that weekend.
Make sure all clubs, fans are clear on repercussions, with hefty bans for any incidents.
Then stick to the plan.

Channel what now?  Feedback by who? Possibly the single worse idea I've ever seen committed to writing.

Communicate with ref? Isn't that the cause of most of the problems.

Let the ref, referee the game and play your own game/manage the team/support your team.

Absolute batshit crazy.

JoG2

Quote from: Louther on July 07, 2023, 07:59:41 PM
Quote from: Whishtup on July 07, 2023, 07:05:29 PM
There needs to be clear parameters set out by the Gaa on how we communicate with referees. There needs to be a channel for parents, supporters to give feedback.Then a synchronised stand down across all clubs to set the boundaries with all members mandatory attendance. Cancel all matches that weekend.
Make sure all clubs, fans are clear on repercussions, with hefty bans for any incidents.
Then stick to the plan.

Channel what now?  Feedback by who? Possibly the single worse idea I've ever seen committed to writing.

Communicate with ref? Isn't that the cause of most of the problems.

Let the ref, referee the game and play your own game/manage the team/support your team.

Absolute batshit crazy.

Nothing to see here, can we all just move on....? Just 36 pages worth in little over a year

thewobbler

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 07, 2023, 06:22:24 PM
Biggest problem is supporters simply don't know the rules ( partially due to us messing around with the rules all the time, the shoulder (now side to side) and square ball rule always bring uproar. Last Monaghan tackle in normal time been a example then that idiot McGeeney coming on( He not got suspended yet for shouldering the Monaghan player?) From neutral games I am at, it's mostly men 50+ bellowing at a ref. When I tell him that call was correct there are unable to take the blinkers off. I stopped reffing at U-16, you spending half the time getting shouted at by persons who don't know the rules.

Honestly you're as close as a lighthouse.

The biggest problem is that management/players/clubs refuse to believe that they can beaten by a better team. So when looking for a scapegoat they go straight for the referee.

It doesn't matter whether the referee has had a perfect game or not. It's easier to blame him than the star forward who dropped the easy pass (sure what a game he had apart from that) or the star defender who gave away the lazy free (sure what a game he had apart from that).

The blame culture is an illness in the GAA.

Louther

Quote from: JoG2 on July 07, 2023, 08:07:06 PM
Quote from: Louther on July 07, 2023, 07:59:41 PM
Quote from: Whishtup on July 07, 2023, 07:05:29 PM
There needs to be clear parameters set out by the Gaa on how we communicate with referees. There needs to be a channel for parents, supporters to give feedback.Then a synchronised stand down across all clubs to set the boundaries with all members mandatory attendance. Cancel all matches that weekend.
Make sure all clubs, fans are clear on repercussions, with hefty bans for any incidents.
Then stick to the plan.

Channel what now?  Feedback by who? Possibly the single worse idea I've ever seen committed to writing.

Communicate with ref? Isn't that the cause of most of the problems.

Let the ref, referee the game and play your own game/manage the team/support your team.

Absolute batshit crazy.

Nothing to see here, can we all just move on....? Just 36 pages worth in little over a year

Absolutely not. That wasn't a response to what has happened. Far from it. It's to that crazy idea of giving a platform to give feedback to refs.

No one needs that "channel". When you go to game do what you're there for - play, manage or support. Not abuse or give feedback to a ref. How nuts would that be FFS.

Zero tolerance for those abusing the ref.


Eire90

conspiracy culture creeping into the game aswell

smort

Whishtup is on the windup

Whishtup

Quote from: Louther on July 07, 2023, 08:19:19 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on July 07, 2023, 08:07:06 PM
Quote from: Louther on July 07, 2023, 07:59:41 PM
Quote from: Whishtup on July 07, 2023, 07:05:29 PM
There needs to be clear parameters set out by the Gaa on how we communicate with referees. There needs to be a channel for parents, supporters to give feedback.Then a synchronised stand down across all clubs to set the boundaries with all members mandatory attendance. Cancel all matches that weekend.
Make sure all clubs, fans are clear on repercussions, with hefty bans for any incidents.
Then stick to the plan.

Channel what now?  Feedback by who? Possibly the single worse idea I've ever seen committed to writing.

Communicate with ref? Isn't that the cause of most of the problems.

Let the ref, referee the game and play your own game/manage the team/support your team.

Absolute batshit crazy.

Nothing to see here, can we all just move on....? Just 36 pages worth in little over a year

Absolutely not. That wasn't a response to what has happened. Far from it. It's to that crazy idea of giving a platform to give feedback to refs.

No one needs that "channel". When you go to game do what you're there for - play, manage or support. Not abuse or give feedback to a ref. How nuts would that be FFS.

Zero tolerance for those abusing the ref.
Jaysus, must have touched a nerve there. The whole reason there is abuse is because it is seen as the only way to get your point across.  This GAA closed shop mentality is at the root of a lot of the problems. Need to be forward thinking, make the public feel like they have an option other than abuse. 
There needs to be a correct channel available to air grievances back through your club in a dignified manner. A club rep then has that to feed back to the refs. Improvement and acknowledgement of errors needs to be at the heart of refereeing.
On the flip side, breaches of using the correct channels/abuse, should be severely punished.

Milltown Row2

So just the ref's errors or are we talking players, managers and so on? I'd say in a game a ref would probably get 3 or so calls wrong, I count, ten or twenty times mistakes bad calls or tactics in one match !

Add on the ludicrous claims for phantom frees or the questioning of obvious frees that they don't understand the rules?

That's where this channel for parents supporters players and managers needs to sorted for.
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Louther

Quote from: Whishtup on July 07, 2023, 08:53:03 PM
Quote from: Louther on July 07, 2023, 08:19:19 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on July 07, 2023, 08:07:06 PM
Quote from: Louther on July 07, 2023, 07:59:41 PM
Quote from: Whishtup on July 07, 2023, 07:05:29 PM
There needs to be clear parameters set out by the Gaa on how we communicate with referees. There needs to be a channel for parents, supporters to give feedback.Then a synchronised stand down across all clubs to set the boundaries with all members mandatory attendance. Cancel all matches that weekend.
Make sure all clubs, fans are clear on repercussions, with hefty bans for any incidents.
Then stick to the plan.

Channel what now?  Feedback by who? Possibly the single worse idea I've ever seen committed to writing.

Communicate with ref? Isn't that the cause of most of the problems.

Let the ref, referee the game and play your own game/manage the team/support your team.

Absolute batshit crazy.

Nothing to see here, can we all just move on....? Just 36 pages worth in little over a year

Absolutely not. That wasn't a response to what has happened. Far from it. It's to that crazy idea of giving a platform to give feedback to refs.

No one needs that "channel". When you go to game do what you're there for - play, manage or support. Not abuse or give feedback to a ref. How nuts would that be FFS.

Zero tolerance for those abusing the ref.
Jaysus, must have touched a nerve there. The whole reason there is abuse is because it is seen as the only way to get your point across.  This GAA closed shop mentality is at the root of a lot of the problems. Need to be forward thinking, make the public feel like they have an option other than abuse. 
There needs to be a correct channel available to air grievances back through your club in a dignified manner. A club rep then has that to feed back to the refs. Improvement and acknowledgement of errors needs to be at the heart of refereeing.
On the flip side, breaches of using the correct channels/abuse, should be severely punished.

It gets better  ;D ;D ;D

Fair play. You've a great imagination.

Has to be a Wind up. Is this one of Ollys burner accounts?

Whishtup

Quote from: Louther on July 07, 2023, 09:04:06 PM
Quote from: Whishtup on July 07, 2023, 08:53:03 PM
Quote from: Louther on July 07, 2023, 08:19:19 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on July 07, 2023, 08:07:06 PM
Quote from: Louther on July 07, 2023, 07:59:41 PM
Quote from: Whishtup on July 07, 2023, 07:05:29 PM
There needs to be clear parameters set out by the Gaa on how we communicate with referees. There needs to be a channel for parents, supporters to give feedback.Then a synchronised stand down across all clubs to set the boundaries with all members mandatory attendance. Cancel all matches that weekend.
Make sure all clubs, fans are clear on repercussions, with hefty bans for any incidents.
Then stick to the plan.

Channel what now?  Feedback by who? Possibly the single worse idea I've ever seen committed to writing.

Communicate with ref? Isn't that the cause of most of the problems.

Let the ref, referee the game and play your own game/manage the team/support your team.

Absolute batshit crazy.

Nothing to see here, can we all just move on....? Just 36 pages worth in little over a year

Absolutely not. That wasn't a response to what has happened. Far from it. It's to that crazy idea of giving a platform to give feedback to refs.

No one needs that "channel". When you go to game do what you're there for - play, manage or support. Not abuse or give feedback to a ref. How nuts would that be FFS.

Zero tolerance for those abusing the ref.
Jaysus, must have touched a nerve there. The whole reason there is abuse is because it is seen as the only way to get your point across.  This GAA closed shop mentality is at the root of a lot of the problems. Need to be forward thinking, make the public feel like they have an option other than abuse. 
There needs to be a correct channel available to air grievances back through your club in a dignified manner. A club rep then has that to feed back to the refs. Improvement and acknowledgement of errors needs to be at the heart of refereeing.
On the flip side, breaches of using the correct channels/abuse, should be severely punished.

It gets better  ;D ;D ;D

Fair play. You've a great imagination.

Has to be a Wind up. Is this one of Ollys burner accounts?
What part of that can't you deal with/are afraid of?

AustinPowers

You can  do  something about  verbals from players and coaches, with red cards, and later, suspensions/fines. 

But you  can't yellow card a spectator  for shouting abuse at officials , and spectators know that. So you can clean up  on the pitch.  Off the pitch is a different matter

Milltown Row2

Quote from: AustinPowers on July 07, 2023, 09:41:57 PM
You can  do  something about  verbals from players and coaches, with red cards, and later, suspensions/fines. 

But you  can't yellow card a spectator  for shouting abuse at officials , and spectators know that. So you can clean up  on the pitch.  Off the pitch is a different matter

You can abandon the game if you feel threaten, whether that abuse comes from player's management or from outside the line, fill in report as to why and let CCC deal with it
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Whishtup

Clubs should be warned/ punished if referees are threatened by players or spectators. But it's about creating a culture by letting people know what the repercussions are first. Code of conduct may as well be toilet paper at the minute.

Eire90

seems to be a problem with local hardman wannabe mouthpeices turning up to gaa matches maybe only players management and medical people should be allowed in ground