Ulster Club SFC 2016

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Gonzalo15

Quote from: general_lee on November 10, 2016, 03:27:30 PM
Quote from: Gonzalo15 on November 10, 2016, 03:07:27 PM
So your saying that kildress are better than omagh, seeing that kildress made it past the first round and omagh did not lol
Sure clearly they finished in the top 9 in the Tyrone championship and are therefore able to take on anyone in Ulster

Yep thats it. KIldress for the all Ireland

BennyCake

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Myth. Tyrone football at senior level is overrated.

Explain.
That a team can come straight out of intermediate and win it tells you all you need to know.

... and go on to beat the Donegal champions and lose by just 2 points to the team that took Crossmaglen to Extra time in the Ulster final. By your logic it doesn't say much for Ulster Club football generally.
Looking at the talented youth coming through with Trillick might provide a better explanation as to how they were able to make the transition to Senior football so effectively - including Richard Donnelly and the two Brennans joining the more established players (including Matty Donnelly, now a 2-in-a-row All Star). When you look at their team sheet it's probably not surprising that they were competitive in their first year at senior football and continue to be so.
I suppose Sunday will tell us how far Tyrone club football is behind the best in Ulster anyway. Personally I can't see Killyclogher being too far away.
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So you don't think Tyrone football's over-rated either then - glad we're in agreement!
We both know it is! your argument that last years champions got beat by the team that got beat by Cross is funny though ;)

Coming from someone from Armagh where their championship is a farce lol

Is it a farce, or were Cross just better than everyone during their dominance? Cork were looked upon as the second best priest team in ireland during Kerrys golden period. Cork might have won countless All Ireland's but just couldn't get past Kerry. Same with Armagh teams. Only two have got that chance, Pearse Og and Maghery.

Orior

Have Maghery any chance against Kilcoo?
Cover me in chocolate and feed me to the lesbians

RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: Orior on November 10, 2016, 08:35:26 PM
Have Maghery any chance against Kilcoo?

Of course.

With a bit of luck, on an awful wet day and heavy pitch any team is capable of beating each other at this point.

Full-back slips after 2 mins, goal. Goalie drops the wet ball after 5 mins, goal. 6 points down before you begin on a pitch where 10 scores over the hour is a reasonable return...

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Il Bomber Destro

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Myth. Tyrone football at senior level is overrated.

Explain.
That a team can come straight out of intermediate and win it tells you all you need to know.

... and go on to beat the Donegal champions and lose by just 2 points to the team that took Crossmaglen to Extra time in the Ulster final. By your logic it doesn't say much for Ulster Club football generally.
Looking at the talented youth coming through with Trillick might provide a better explanation as to how they were able to make the transition to Senior football so effectively - including Richard Donnelly and the two Brennans joining the more established players (including Matty Donnelly, now a 2-in-a-row All Star). When you look at their team sheet it's probably not surprising that they were competitive in their first year at senior football and continue to be so.
I suppose Sunday will tell us how far Tyrone club football is behind the best in Ulster anyway. Personally I can't see Killyclogher being too far away.
🎣🎣🎣🎣

So you don't think Tyrone football's over-rated either then - glad we're in agreement!
We both know it is! your argument that last years champions got beat by the team that got beat by Cross is funny though ;)

Coming from someone from Armagh where their championship is a farce lol

Is it a farce, or were Cross just better than everyone during their dominance? Cork were looked upon as the second best priest team in ireland during Kerrys golden period. Cork might have won countless All Ireland's but just couldn't get past Kerry. Same with Armagh teams. Only two have got that chance, Pearse Og and Maghery.

By who were Cork viewed as the second best team in Ireland during Kerry's golden period?

Cork were a pretty average side who stumbled over the line against a Down side having a flash in the pan season, they were consistently overhyped and never really came close to winning one before or after. Having a handy passage through Munster every year has Cork consistently at short odds but they were and are a long way away from being the second best team in the country over the past 20 years.

time ticking away

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Myth. Tyrone football at senior level is overrated.

Explain.
That a team can come straight out of intermediate and win it tells you all you need to know.

... and go on to beat the Donegal champions and lose by just 2 points to the team that took Crossmaglen to Extra time in the Ulster final. By your logic it doesn't say much for Ulster Club football generally.
Looking at the talented youth coming through with Trillick might provide a better explanation as to how they were able to make the transition to Senior football so effectively - including Richard Donnelly and the two Brennans joining the more established players (including Matty Donnelly, now a 2-in-a-row All Star). When you look at their team sheet it's probably not surprising that they were competitive in their first year at senior football and continue to be so.
I suppose Sunday will tell us how far Tyrone club football is behind the best in Ulster anyway. Personally I can't see Killyclogher being too far away.
🎣🎣🎣🎣

So you don't think Tyrone football's over-rated either then - glad we're in agreement!
We both know it is! your argument that last years champions got beat by the team that got beat by Cross is funny though ;)

Coming from someone from Armagh where their championship is a farce lol

Is it a farce, or were Cross just better than everyone during their dominance? Cork were looked upon as the second best priest team in ireland during Kerrys golden period. Cork might have won countless All Ireland's but just couldn't get past Kerry. Same with Armagh teams. Only two have got that chance, Pearse Og and Maghery.

By who were Cork viewed as the second best team in Ireland during Kerry's golden period?

Cork were a pretty average side who stumbled over the line against a Down side having a flash in the pan season, they were consistently overhyped and never really came close to winning one before or after. Having a handy passage through Munster every year has Cork consistently at short odds but they were and are a long way away from being the second best team in the country over the past 20 years.
I assume he means late 70s and early 80s
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lenny

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Myth. Tyrone football at senior level is overrated.

Explain.
That a team can come straight out of intermediate and win it tells you all you need to know.

... and go on to beat the Donegal champions and lose by just 2 points to the team that took Crossmaglen to Extra time in the Ulster final. By your logic it doesn't say much for Ulster Club football generally.
Looking at the talented youth coming through with Trillick might provide a better explanation as to how they were able to make the transition to Senior football so effectively - including Richard Donnelly and the two Brennans joining the more established players (including Matty Donnelly, now a 2-in-a-row All Star). When you look at their team sheet it's probably not surprising that they were competitive in their first year at senior football and continue to be so.
I suppose Sunday will tell us how far Tyrone club football is behind the best in Ulster anyway. Personally I can't see Killyclogher being too far away.
🎣🎣🎣🎣

So you don't think Tyrone football's over-rated either then - glad we're in agreement!
We both know it is! your argument that last years champions got beat by the team that got beat by Cross is funny though ;)

Coming from someone from Armagh where their championship is a farce lol

Is it a farce, or were Cross just better than everyone during their dominance? Cork were looked upon as the second best priest team in ireland during Kerrys golden period. Cork might have won countless All Ireland's but just couldn't get past Kerry. Same with Armagh teams. Only two have got that chance, Pearse Og and Maghery.

By who were Cork viewed as the second best team in Ireland during Kerry's golden period?

Cork were a pretty average side who stumbled over the line against a Down side having a flash in the pan season, they were consistently overhyped and never really came close to winning one before or after. Having a handy passage through Munster every year has Cork consistently at short odds but they were and are a long way away from being the second best team in the country over the past 20 years.
I assume he means late 70s and early 80s

That was obvious but bomber is either being obtuse or he's a bit stupid.

Milltown Row2

The Tyronies don't lack confidence, that's for sure  :P
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

rodney trotter

What happened to Omagh? They reached the Ulster Club final in 2014 beating Crossmaglen along the way, haven't won the Tyrone championship  since. Tyrone Club football is competitive, but they looked like a side that would be back

longballin

Quote from: rodney trotter on November 11, 2016, 08:07:22 PM
What happened to Omagh? They reached the Ulster Club final in 2014 beating Crossmaglen along the way, haven't won the Tyrone championship  since. Tyrone Club football is competitive, but they looked like a side that would be back

you answered your own question... not much between 6 or 7 teams

rodney trotter

Still, they were good enough to make the Ulster final.

The Tyrone club championship is knockout, so if missing a few players, there is no second chance. Is that a factor? Peter Harte was suspended for Errigal Ciaran one year, and they were knocked out in first round.

Milltown Row2

Maybe a Tyrone team can win, but traditionally they haven't.. how long has this competition going? Poor return from a highly competitive (apparently) championship... when you consider 9 teams can win it each year  :o
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

longballin

Bit like Ulster county football is such a effort to get  out of Tyrone whereas other counties no competition...

Milltown Row2

Quote from: longballin on November 11, 2016, 09:19:53 PM
Bit like Ulster county football is such a effort to get  out of Tyrone whereas other counties no competition...

We talking club or county on this thread?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

BennyCake

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Quote from: general_lee on November 08, 2016, 04:55:16 PM
Myth. Tyrone football at senior level is overrated.

Explain.
That a team can come straight out of intermediate and win it tells you all you need to know.

... and go on to beat the Donegal champions and lose by just 2 points to the team that took Crossmaglen to Extra time in the Ulster final. By your logic it doesn't say much for Ulster Club football generally.
Looking at the talented youth coming through with Trillick might provide a better explanation as to how they were able to make the transition to Senior football so effectively - including Richard Donnelly and the two Brennans joining the more established players (including Matty Donnelly, now a 2-in-a-row All Star). When you look at their team sheet it's probably not surprising that they were competitive in their first year at senior football and continue to be so.
I suppose Sunday will tell us how far Tyrone club football is behind the best in Ulster anyway. Personally I can't see Killyclogher being too far away.
🎣🎣🎣🎣

So you don't think Tyrone football's over-rated either then - glad we're in agreement!
We both know it is! your argument that last years champions got beat by the team that got beat by Cross is funny though ;)

Coming from someone from Armagh where their championship is a farce lol

Is it a farce, or were Cross just better than everyone during their dominance? Cork were looked upon as the second best priest team in ireland during Kerrys golden period. Cork might have won countless All Ireland's but just couldn't get past Kerry. Same with Armagh teams. Only two have got that chance, Pearse Og and Maghery.

By who were Cork viewed as the second best team in Ireland during Kerry's golden period?

Cork were a pretty average side who stumbled over the line against a Down side having a flash in the pan season, they were consistently overhyped and never really came close to winning one before or after. Having a handy passage through Munster every year has Cork consistently at short odds but they were and are a long way away from being the second best team in the country over the past 20 years.

You're right. But I was talking about the 70s and early 80s.