Ulster Club SFC 2016

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WBF

Quote from: general_lee on November 10, 2016, 12:51:51 PM
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Quote from: general_lee on November 08, 2016, 04:55:16 PM
Myth. Tyrone football at senior level is overrated.

Explain.
That a team can come straight out of intermediate and win it tells you all you need to know.

... and go on to beat the Donegal champions and lose by just 2 points to the team that took Crossmaglen to Extra time in the Ulster final. By your logic it doesn't say much for Ulster Club football generally.
Looking at the talented youth coming through with Trillick might provide a better explanation as to how they were able to make the transition to Senior football so effectively - including Richard Donnelly and the two Brennans joining the more established players (including Matty Donnelly, now a 2-in-a-row All Star). When you look at their team sheet it's probably not surprising that they were competitive in their first year at senior football and continue to be so.
I suppose Sunday will tell us how far Tyrone club football is behind the best in Ulster anyway. Personally I can't see Killyclogher being too far away.
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So you don't think Tyrone football's over-rated either then - glad we're in agreement!
We both know it is! your argument that last years champions got beat by the team that got beat by Cross is funny though ;)

Coming from someone from Armagh where their championship is a farce lol
I'm not in denial at the weak state of Armagh football though.  We have at most, four clubs who could challenge in Ulster. The way Tyronies get on all 16 of their senior clubs are a match for each other and after bruising encounters with the likes of Augher and Strabane their senior representatives are too exhausted to make a proper assault on Ulster

No definitley not all 16 - but any of the top 9 teams could win it and all 9 would have a chance of winning any county title in ulster.

general_lee

And therein lies the delusion

Walter Cronc

Quote from: WBF on November 10, 2016, 12:53:58 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 10, 2016, 12:51:51 PM
Quote from: Gonzalo15 on November 10, 2016, 12:37:10 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 10, 2016, 12:33:07 PM
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Quote from: general_lee on November 10, 2016, 11:37:57 AM
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Quote from: general_lee on November 09, 2016, 07:10:29 PM
Quote from: DownFanatic on November 08, 2016, 05:21:53 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 08, 2016, 04:55:16 PM
Myth. Tyrone football at senior level is overrated.

Explain.
That a team can come straight out of intermediate and win it tells you all you need to know.

... and go on to beat the Donegal champions and lose by just 2 points to the team that took Crossmaglen to Extra time in the Ulster final. By your logic it doesn't say much for Ulster Club football generally.
Looking at the talented youth coming through with Trillick might provide a better explanation as to how they were able to make the transition to Senior football so effectively - including Richard Donnelly and the two Brennans joining the more established players (including Matty Donnelly, now a 2-in-a-row All Star). When you look at their team sheet it's probably not surprising that they were competitive in their first year at senior football and continue to be so.
I suppose Sunday will tell us how far Tyrone club football is behind the best in Ulster anyway. Personally I can't see Killyclogher being too far away.
🎣🎣🎣🎣

So you don't think Tyrone football's over-rated either then - glad we're in agreement!
We both know it is! your argument that last years champions got beat by the team that got beat by Cross is funny though ;)

Coming from someone from Armagh where their championship is a farce lol
I'm not in denial at the weak state of Armagh football though.  We have at most, four clubs who could challenge in Ulster. The way Tyronies get on all 16 of their senior clubs are a match for each other and after bruising encounters with the likes of Augher and Strabane their senior representatives are too exhausted to make a proper assault on Ulster

No definitley not all 16 - but any of the top 9 teams could win it and all 9 would have a chance of winning any county title in ulster.

9!!! Wise up.

nrico2006

Quote from: WBF on November 10, 2016, 12:53:58 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 10, 2016, 12:51:51 PM
Quote from: Gonzalo15 on November 10, 2016, 12:37:10 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 10, 2016, 12:33:07 PM
Quote from: redhandroar on November 10, 2016, 12:26:48 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 10, 2016, 11:37:57 AM
Quote from: redhandroar on November 10, 2016, 09:54:06 AM
Quote from: general_lee on November 09, 2016, 07:10:29 PM
Quote from: DownFanatic on November 08, 2016, 05:21:53 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 08, 2016, 04:55:16 PM
Myth. Tyrone football at senior level is overrated.

Explain.
That a team can come straight out of intermediate and win it tells you all you need to know.

... and go on to beat the Donegal champions and lose by just 2 points to the team that took Crossmaglen to Extra time in the Ulster final. By your logic it doesn't say much for Ulster Club football generally.
Looking at the talented youth coming through with Trillick might provide a better explanation as to how they were able to make the transition to Senior football so effectively - including Richard Donnelly and the two Brennans joining the more established players (including Matty Donnelly, now a 2-in-a-row All Star). When you look at their team sheet it's probably not surprising that they were competitive in their first year at senior football and continue to be so.
I suppose Sunday will tell us how far Tyrone club football is behind the best in Ulster anyway. Personally I can't see Killyclogher being too far away.
🎣🎣🎣🎣

So you don't think Tyrone football's over-rated either then - glad we're in agreement!
We both know it is! your argument that last years champions got beat by the team that got beat by Cross is funny though ;)

Coming from someone from Armagh where their championship is a farce lol
I'm not in denial at the weak state of Armagh football though.  We have at most, four clubs who could challenge in Ulster. The way Tyronies get on all 16 of their senior clubs are a match for each other and after bruising encounters with the likes of Augher and Strabane their senior representatives are too exhausted to make a proper assault on Ulster

No definitley not all 16 - but any of the top 9 teams could win it and all 9 would have a chance of winning any county title in ulster.

I'd agree.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

general_lee

So kildress who got to the last 8 in Tyrone (and are therefore in the top 9 teams in the county) would be contenders in the other 8 counties ???

Gonzalo15

Quote from: general_lee on November 10, 2016, 01:42:37 PM
So kildress who got to the last 8 in Tyrone (and are therefore in the top 9 teams in the county) would be contenders in the other 8 counties ???

Surely you would judge the top teams in a county on their league form?

Walter Cronc

Name these 9 teams you headers!!!

redhandroar

Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 10, 2016, 01:49:27 PM
Name these 9 teams you headers!!!

It's not hard to find the top 9 league team's in Tyrone from the Tyrone GAA website (Killyclogher Vs Carrickmore still outstanding). So the 9th team is Carrickmore or Trillick based on this year's league form.
1 An Droim Mór Naoimh Damhnait 15 12 2 1 292 156 25
2 Omagh St Enda's 15 11 2 2 265 187 24
3 Coalisland Fianna GFC 15 11 2 2 256 184 24
4 Coill an Chlochair Naomh Mhuire 14 11 2 1 233 155 23
5 Errigal Ciaran 15 9 5 1 244 199 19
6 Clonoe O`Rahilly's CLG 15 8 4 3 238 197 19
7 Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa 15 8 4 3 234 205 19
8 Trí Leac C. Naoimh Mhic Artáin 15 6 8 1 210 222 13
9 Carrickmore St Colmcille's 14 6 7 1 242 206 13


WBF

Quote from: redhandroar on November 10, 2016, 02:00:24 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 10, 2016, 01:49:27 PM
Name these 9 teams you headers!!!

It's not hard to find the top 9 league team's in Tyrone from the Tyrone GAA website (Killyclogher Vs Carrickmore still outstanding). So the 9th team is Carrickmore or Trillick based on this year's league form.
1 An Droim Mór Naoimh Damhnait 15 12 2 1 292 156 25
2 Omagh St Enda's 15 11 2 2 265 187 24
3 Coalisland Fianna GFC 15 11 2 2 256 184 24
4 Coill an Chlochair Naomh Mhuire 14 11 2 1 233 155 23
5 Errigal Ciaran 15 9 5 1 244 199 19
6 Clonoe O`Rahilly's CLG 15 8 4 3 238 197 19
7 Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa 15 8 4 3 234 205 19
8 Trí Leac C. Naoimh Mhic Artáin 15 6 8 1 210 222 13
9 Carrickmore St Colmcille's 14 6 7 1 242 206 13

Any of these 9 teams could beat eachother on any day, would also give any team a tough game within ulster.

redhandroar

Quote from: WBF on November 10, 2016, 02:13:50 PM
Quote from: redhandroar on November 10, 2016, 02:00:24 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 10, 2016, 01:49:27 PM
Name these 9 teams you headers!!!

It's not hard to find the top 9 league team's in Tyrone from the Tyrone GAA website (Killyclogher Vs Carrickmore still outstanding). So the 9th team is Carrickmore or Trillick based on this year's league form.
1 An Droim Mór Naoimh Damhnait 15 12 2 1 292 156 25
2 Omagh St Enda's 15 11 2 2 265 187 24
3 Coalisland Fianna GFC 15 11 2 2 256 184 24
4 Coill an Chlochair Naomh Mhuire 14 11 2 1 233 155 23
5 Errigal Ciaran 15 9 5 1 244 199 19
6 Clonoe O`Rahilly's CLG 15 8 4 3 238 197 19
7 Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa 15 8 4 3 234 205 19
8 Trí Leac C. Naoimh Mhic Artáin 15 6 8 1 210 222 13
9 Carrickmore St Colmcille's 14 6 7 1 242 206 13

Any of these 9 teams could beat eachother on any day, would also give any team a tough game within ulster.

I agree - it would be hard not to, particularly when you consider that last year's champions did so and are now 8th (or 9th depending on how they are being ranked).

Knock Yer Mucker In



Quote from: redhandroar on November 10, 2016, 02:19:58 PM
Quote from: WBF on November 10, 2016, 02:13:50 PM
Quote from: redhandroar on November 10, 2016, 02:00:24 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 10, 2016, 01:49:27 PM
Name these 9 teams you headers!!!

It's not hard to find the top 9 league team's in Tyrone from the Tyrone GAA website (Killyclogher Vs Carrickmore still outstanding). So the 9th team is Carrickmore or Trillick based on this year's league form.
1 An Droim Mór Naoimh Damhnait 15 12 2 1 292 156 25
2 Omagh St Enda's 15 11 2 2 265 187 24
3 Coalisland Fianna GFC 15 11 2 2 256 184 24
4 Coill an Chlochair Naomh Mhuire 14 11 2 1 233 155 23
5 Errigal Ciaran 15 9 5 1 244 199 19
6 Clonoe O`Rahilly's CLG 15 8 4 3 238 197 19
7 Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa 15 8 4 3 234 205 19
8 Trí Leac C. Naoimh Mhic Artáin 15 6 8 1 210 222 13
9 Carrickmore St Colmcille's 14 6 7 1 242 206 13

Any of these 9 teams could beat eachother on any day, would also give any team a tough game within ulster.

I agree - it would be hard not to, particularly when you consider that last year's champions did so and are now 8th (or 9th depending on how they are being ranked).

Pissed myself laughing at that, Arbboe, Errigal, Carrickmore currently not in the ball park. Trillick this season not in to ball park either. They could well be next year. That leaves Killyclogher, Omagh, Clonoe, Coalisland and Dromore, five teams lads who this season were the only serious teams in the championship.

WBF

Quote from: Knock Yer Mucker In on November 10, 2016, 02:32:23 PM


Quote from: redhandroar on November 10, 2016, 02:19:58 PM
Quote from: WBF on November 10, 2016, 02:13:50 PM
Quote from: redhandroar on November 10, 2016, 02:00:24 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 10, 2016, 01:49:27 PM
Name these 9 teams you headers!!!

It's not hard to find the top 9 league team's in Tyrone from the Tyrone GAA website (Killyclogher Vs Carrickmore still outstanding). So the 9th team is Carrickmore or Trillick based on this year's league form.
1 An Droim Mór Naoimh Damhnait 15 12 2 1 292 156 25
2 Omagh St Enda's 15 11 2 2 265 187 24
3 Coalisland Fianna GFC 15 11 2 2 256 184 24
4 Coill an Chlochair Naomh Mhuire 14 11 2 1 233 155 23
5 Errigal Ciaran 15 9 5 1 244 199 19
6 Clonoe O`Rahilly's CLG 15 8 4 3 238 197 19
7 Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa 15 8 4 3 234 205 19
8 Trí Leac C. Naoimh Mhic Artáin 15 6 8 1 210 222 13
9 Carrickmore St Colmcille's 14 6 7 1 242 206 13

Any of these 9 teams could beat eachother on any day, would also give any team a tough game within ulster.

I agree - it would be hard not to, particularly when you consider that last year's champions did so and are now 8th (or 9th depending on how they are being ranked).

Pissed myself laughing at that, Arbboe, Errigal, Carrickmore currently not in the ball park. Trillick this season not in to ball park either. They could well be next year. That leaves Killyclogher, Omagh, Clonoe, Coalisland and Dromore, five teams lads who this season were the only serious teams in the championship.

So how do you work Clonoe are much further than Carrickmore? Beat them by a single point in League and a goal at the end of the Championship game? If Caoloan Daly had not have got injured Carrickmore would have beaten Clonoe they were all over them the entire game.

Knock Yer Mucker In

#132
If your ma had balls she would be your da. The point is they didn't, couldn't, haven't in god knows how long, end of that debate. You must hold Clonoe in very high esteem when getting to within a point or two of them qualifies them for this argument/discussion. I am talking about this year, next year is a different set of variables

redhandroar

Quote from: WBF on November 10, 2016, 02:34:28 PM
Quote from: Knock Yer Mucker In on November 10, 2016, 02:32:23 PM


Quote from: redhandroar on November 10, 2016, 02:19:58 PM
Quote from: WBF on November 10, 2016, 02:13:50 PM
Quote from: redhandroar on November 10, 2016, 02:00:24 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 10, 2016, 01:49:27 PM
Name these 9 teams you headers!!!

It's not hard to find the top 9 league team's in Tyrone from the Tyrone GAA website (Killyclogher Vs Carrickmore still outstanding). So the 9th team is Carrickmore or Trillick based on this year's league form.
1 An Droim Mór Naoimh Damhnait 15 12 2 1 292 156 25
2 Omagh St Enda's 15 11 2 2 265 187 24
3 Coalisland Fianna GFC 15 11 2 2 256 184 24
4 Coill an Chlochair Naomh Mhuire 14 11 2 1 233 155 23
5 Errigal Ciaran 15 9 5 1 244 199 19
6 Clonoe O`Rahilly's CLG 15 8 4 3 238 197 19
7 Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa 15 8 4 3 234 205 19
8 Trí Leac C. Naoimh Mhic Artáin 15 6 8 1 210 222 13
9 Carrickmore St Colmcille's 14 6 7 1 242 206 13

Any of these 9 teams could beat eachother on any day, would also give any team a tough game within ulster.

I agree - it would be hard not to, particularly when you consider that last year's champions did so and are now 8th (or 9th depending on how they are being ranked).

Pissed myself laughing at that, Arbboe, Errigal, Carrickmore currently not in the ball park. Trillick this season not in to ball park either. They could well be next year. That leaves Killyclogher, Omagh, Clonoe, Coalisland and Dromore, five teams lads who this season were the only serious teams in the championship.

So how do you work Clonoe are much further than Carrickmore? Beat them by a single point in League and a goal at the end of the Championship game? If Caoloan Daly had not have got injured Carrickmore would have beaten Clonoe they were all over them the entire game.

Maybe last year's league positions will help to confirm....
1 An Droim Mór Naoimh Damhnait 15 14 1 0 257 133 28
2 Clonoe O`Rahilly's CLG 15 11 3 1 232 171 23
3 Errigal Ciaran 15 10 3 2 239 184 22
4 Carrickmore St Colmcille's 15 10 4 1 263 202 21
5 Omagh St Enda's 15 10 5 0 252 188 20
6 Coill an Chlochair Naomh Mhuire 15 10 5 0 248 162 20
7 Coalisland Fianna GFC 15 9 6 0 215 183 18
8 Trí Leac C. Naoimh Mhic Artáin 15 8 7 0 206 177 16
9 Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa 15 7 6 2 231 222 16
...
same 9 teams. Trillick ended up 8th but won the Championship - beat KClogher by a point in the final who had beaten Dromore by a point in the semis - doesn't seem to be a lot between first and 8th!

WBF

Quote from: Knock Yer Mucker In on November 10, 2016, 02:39:37 PM
If your ma had balls she would be your da. The point is they didn't, couldn't, haven't in god knows how long, end of that debate. You must hold Clonoe in very high esteem when getting to within a point or two of them qualifies them for this argument/discussion. I am talking about this year, next year is a different set of variables

Well i do hold them in pretty high regard to be honest, great club with great people involved. Beating a team by a last minute goal in my mind would mean they were in contention to win throughout the entire game no?