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Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on France 2016
« Reply #6735 on: November 20, 2017, 01:19:19 AM »
Dig out the stats of Martinís management with Ireland..

Since Sep 2015 Ireland have beaten teams ranked 2, 12, 13 & 20 in competitive games. Before that the best was 33rd.. thatís just one stat

Hard to argue with those statistics tbf.

Mcgeady's introduction was strange and perhaps loyalty played a part. That consistent  loyalty probably contributes to the great team bond, associated with o'neills teams, and therefore contributes to his team's punching above their weight over several years.
His tight at the back system is totally dependent on clean sheets, and such miserliness has provided a necessary platform for his teams, providing success away from home for example.
However when goals are conceded , there has to be a totally different emphasis, which by necessity involves being more cavalier to create more chances, employing creative players who are lacking  defensively. O'Neill has been roundly criticised for not using these creative players, like Hoolahan, enough.
He employed them on Tuesday and look what happened.
Do we honestly think that if he had shut up shop after the Danish goal and tried to steal a very unlikely  goal on the break, he wouldnt have been criticised even more?
We don't have the quality due to relatively poor numbers, poor interest, poor coaching , poor organisation in the country as a whole. We are not a soccer nation.  O'Neill and Keane's approach had us punching above our weight throughout their tenure, but when we met genuine quality, and/or went behind, we were often found out.
It was like the Tyrone-Dublin aisf. Mickey Harte had the same problem as O'Neill. He doesn't have any star forwards.  He built a very rigid system to make up for the deficiencies in his personnel. It is very psychological and wins against disorganised teams. Flair is sacrificed for the system. Only certain types of player are involved. Fans had unrealistic expectations. So many parallels. 

The Dubs scored an early goal like Denmark did and the game was over.

The system hadn't beaten anybody that Tyrone wouldn't beat playing a more positive style. It inevitably failed when Tyrone came up against a technically superior team. 

RoI don't have the players. Neither do Tyrone.
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« Reply #6736 on: November 20, 2017, 08:23:10 AM »
Only stupid fans will think Martinís whole time as manager of the ROI team will be remembered for putting on subs at halftime of a playoff for the World Cup with that squad!
Stupid fans and remembering his whole tenure aside. Do you think bringing McGeady on was a good managerial decision? In my book it was absolutely shocking and brings into question what he offers us from here.

McGeady on was a horrible gamble. We needed 2 goals but when was the last time (ever?) MCGeady created or scored a goal for us? He is talented but looks like he doesnt know what he is doing and couldnt cross his legs never mind beat the 1st man. Tbh i didnt even know he was still on the squad when he was brought on.

Id have had Long on from the start....he hasnt been scoring but always puts a shift in and has been proven to do it in big games...couldnt believe be only got 10 mins

Look theres no doubt we got lucky in so many games throughout the campaign but what other manager can or could do better with the talent (or lack of) we have? We do not play any football...which is amazing as the Danes are nlt world beaters....they have many mediocre players but only 1 star. I think we were gutless not to have the balls to try and keep the ball and play football...real bravery is getting on and keeping the ball
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« Reply #6737 on: November 20, 2017, 08:46:24 AM »
Only stupid fans will think Martinís whole time as manager of the ROI team will be remembered for putting on subs at halftime of a playoff for the World Cup with that squad!
Stupid fans and remembering his whole tenure aside. Do you think bringing McGeady on was a good managerial decision? In my book it was absolutely shocking and brings into question what he offers us from here.

McGeady on was a horrible gamble. We needed 2 goals but when was the last time (ever?) MCGeady created or scored a goal for us? He is talented but looks like he doesnt know what he is doing and couldnt cross his legs never mind beat the 1st man. Tbh i didnt even know he was still on the squad when he was brought on.

Id have had Long on from the start....he hasnt been scoring but always puts a shift in and has been proven to do it in big games...couldnt believe be only got 10 mins

Look theres no doubt we got lucky in so many games throughout the campaign but what other manager can or could do better with the talent (or lack of) we have? We do not play any football...which is amazing as the Danes are nlt world beaters....they have many mediocre players but only 1 star. I think we were gutless not to have the balls to try and keep the ball and play football...real bravery is getting on and keeping the ball

It was a long shot and a panic move which backfired badly.

Hard to remember the last time this Ireland team scored two goals in 45 minutes when they were in the teeth of a tight game. The cutting edge up front hasn't been there in a while. There's only so far big Duffy and the long throws will get you.

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« Reply #6738 on: November 20, 2017, 09:35:02 AM »
McGeady has 93 caps. What. The. F**k?

Other than that late goal in Georgia, I can't recall anything he has done.

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« Reply #6739 on: November 20, 2017, 06:39:26 PM »
Only stupid fans will think Martinís whole time as manager of the ROI team will be remembered for putting on subs at halftime of a playoff for the World Cup with that squad!
Stupid fans and remembering his whole tenure aside. Do you think bringing McGeady on was a good managerial decision? In my book it was absolutely shocking and brings into question what he offers us from here.

McGeady on was a horrible gamble. We needed 2 goals but when was the last time (ever?) MCGeady created or scored a goal for us? He is talented but looks like he doesnt know what he is doing and couldnt cross his legs never mind beat the 1st man. Tbh i didnt even know he was still on the squad when he was brought on.

Id have had Long on from the start....he hasnt been scoring but always puts a shift in and has been proven to do it in big games...couldnt believe be only got 10 mins

Look theres no doubt we got lucky in so many games throughout the campaign but what other manager can or could do better with the talent (or lack of) we have? We do not play any football...which is amazing as the Danes are nlt world beaters....they have many mediocre players but only 1 star. I think we were gutless not to have the balls to try and keep the ball and play football...real bravery is getting on and keeping the ball
No itís not...real bravery is getting a kids cuddly toy from the lions cage.

I would call that stupidity myself
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Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on France 2016
« Reply #6740 on: November 20, 2017, 07:06:56 PM »
The w**kers hurling racial abuse at Christie for losing a fŻcking soccer match need to disappear, and fast.

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« Reply #6741 on: November 20, 2017, 07:40:00 PM »
I heard that a few of the lads went on a bender after the Denmark game, the first game !
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« Reply #6742 on: November 20, 2017, 11:55:03 PM »
McGeady has 93 caps. What. The. F**k?

Other than that late goal in Georgia, I can't recall anything he has done.

I went to all games 07-09 when living in Dublin and defo remember screaming to get him off or not put him on.

Unbelievable he's been about so long...i cannot remember ever seeing a more frustrating player...it's funny that it's only sport but can put you in such bad form ;D
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« Reply #6743 on: November 23, 2017, 01:19:50 PM »
ROI are down to 32 on the FIFA rankings. The fourth green bouncy field is ranked 24.
Meath are ranked 246, just ahead of Vanuatu.
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« Reply #6744 on: November 25, 2017, 07:53:53 PM »
Martin O'Neill 4/5 favourite to be the next Everton manager.Would probably take Keane with him,handy to his Cheshire home.

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« Reply #6745 on: November 25, 2017, 07:59:30 PM »
Martin O'Neill 4/5 favourite to be the next Everton manager.Would probably take Keane with him,handy to his Cheshire home.

I can't see MON being appointed to Everton .   Bookies love playing ducks and drakes on such matters .

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« Reply #6746 on: November 25, 2017, 08:34:46 PM »
The lack of interest in the story shows heís not as indispensable as some here thinks. It would actually show a shortage of ambition by Everton to opt for a bootball merchant as manager, to be honest.

Whoever is our manger in 2018 needs to start a rebuild with an eye to Qatar 2022, getting the Euros in 2020 is very hard not to do with how itís structured.
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Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on France 2016
« Reply #6747 on: December 07, 2017, 06:38:04 PM »
I see IF Ireland qualify for euro 2020 they will be in Spains group but will play 2 games in Dublin

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Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on France 2016
« Reply #6748 on: January 05, 2018, 10:57:00 AM »
Declan Rice of West Ham, get him capped asap

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« Reply #6749 on: January 05, 2018, 11:03:57 AM »
Declan Rice of West Ham, get him capped asap

Only qualifies through grandparents. Hope not another Grealish situation.