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Laois / Re: 2019 Joe McDonagh Cup
« on: June 17, 2019, 09:08:06 PM »
The promotion relegation playoff is already in place Munster. If Kerry were to win the Joe McDonagh, they would then have to beat the fifth placed team in Munster to get promoted. This rule does not apply to any other team in the McDonagh Cup, which is shockingly biased against Kerry.

The reason things are as they currently are is because they needed two groups of five. Munster already had five good teams all roughly around the same level, but none of them wanted to be relegated, so they had one set of rules for them. Leinster only has four decent teams, so they get supplemented with a rotating fifth team. The McDonagh Cup winners will be expected to get relegated every year, and the GAA will be happy for this to continue ad infinitum because the hurling championship is churning out top class games at the moment and that means its easier to attract sponsors and charge more for tv rights etc.

The only thing that will prompt a change in this is if one of Dublin, Galway, Wexford or Kilkenny somehow end up in 5th place in Leinster.

Laois / Re: Laois - Bits & Pieces
« on: March 04, 2019, 01:12:38 PM »
Good thread Bruce!

I never liked Kildare, I'd happily see them beaten any day of the week. Dublin obviously as well. I never really minded Carlow until recently but the antics of their football management setup have turned me off them, so let them go and sh*te too. Probably Cork as well, I ended up in college with a load of lads from Cork and they were insufferable. Outside of that I wouldn't get too upset about any other county.

I always liked Kerry, but that's probably because I idolised Maurice Fitz growing up, and I loved watching him play. The free he kicked off the ground with his left foot into the Canal end in the 1997 All-Ireland final is one of the best points I've ever seen. Same goes for Down, I loved watching Mickey Linden and Greg Blaney and so I like to see them doing well. I liked Tipp too because we had family down there so I used to keep an eye out for them.

Laois / Re: Club transfers
« on: February 18, 2019, 12:05:50 PM »
I would like to see transfers on the basis of 'club of the parent' suspended until they progress out of U-17 and are into adult football, at least in cases where the transfers are within a parish. If the parents want them to play for their home club, and that club is within the parish, then they should bring them there as a 6 year old, don't wait until they are 12 or 13, showing some promise and an integral part of their team at their age grade, and then whip them out. If the player decides themselves to move as an adult then fair enough, but the original club have put the time and effort into developing them, and they shouldn't suffer because of a lack of foresight or laziness on the part of parents.

Laois / Re: Club transfers
« on: February 17, 2019, 11:39:50 AM »
And that's all Killeen were doing too so that's OK then is it? People have been criticising Killeen since they started doing it but now suddenly it's all OK... Fair enough....

You're not comparing like with like Junior. Killeen proved to be the highest bidders and set the lads up with an address. They were established footballers at that stage. I've seen the flyer Killeshin sent out. Nowhere on it is anyone encouraged to leave Graiguecullen or transfer away from them. It just stated they were having a juvenile registration night, and new players were welcome.

You're comparing the active pursuit of a high-profile intercounty player with a club trying to inform potentially eligible young players in their catchment area that they can register with the club and play football.

Laois / Re: Club transfers
« on: February 16, 2019, 06:40:39 PM »
How do Graiguecullen people feel about Clonad, Ratheniska or The Heath recruiting juvenile players from Portlaoise town, or The Rock doing likewise in Mountmellick? Because as far as I can see, this is the exact same scenario. Killeshin, as a rural club on the edge of a large urban area, did a flyer drop and put up a few posters advertising a registration night. They are 100% entitled to do that and fair play to them, we give out about clubs fading away to obscurity. They're trying to grow.

Laois / Re: Fr Manning Cup 2018
« on: November 06, 2018, 09:51:35 AM »
Waterford bet Carlow by 3 points last week and Wexford bet Carlow by 10 points so I wouldn’t be too excited .
Do you think we’d be as well off simply executing this group of players entirely?

We should do it in public, as a warning to the U-15s and all the others coming through.

Laois / Re: Laois Divisional Championship
« on: September 17, 2018, 03:20:17 PM »
Was told before that Picky Maher is a brilliant footballer too, but I've never seen him play. Matthew Whelan played senior football with Mountmellick before as well. With Eddie Brennan coming in as hurling manager, you'd imagine there is a strong pull for the likes of him and Paddy Purcell to keep their focus on that.

I like the idea, should be a few good games in it, will hopefully get clubs thinking about their long-term plans

Laois / Re: Club Hurling
« on: August 28, 2018, 02:46:43 PM »
there will be no extra draw for the semi finals.....the path is already decided, Gp A play the winners of the tie involving 3rd Gp A and 2nd Gp B, in one semi and winners Gp B play the winners of 3rd Gp B and 2nd Gp A in the other one.

Hence the draw is Camross V Borris/C Ballacolla, and Ballinakill v Abbeyleix/Rathd Errill.

That's not the case at all, the path isn't decided, seeding applies in the semi-final draw. If Clough-Ballacolla and Rathdowney-Errill win then it goes to an open draw, and likewise if Abbeyleix and Borris-Kilcotton win. If one team from each group wins in the quarter-final, RE and BK for example, then it is predetermined, because the seeding means RE can't play Camross again, and BK can't play Ballinakill.

Laois / Re: TJ Doheny
« on: August 16, 2018, 09:33:43 PM »
Yeah, fair play to him, some achievement. I can't imagine we've had too many world champions in a professional sport from Laois.

Laois / Re: Laois Hurling Manager 2019
« on: August 10, 2018, 12:45:27 PM »
Hopefully we get a few good selectors in with him. In both football and hurling it's been a battle to get Laois men to commit to being selectors, you'd have to imagine there are few lads out there that would be interested in working with him. Maybe Jackman, even though he was on the selection committee, could be an option. He's coaching down with Castlecomer and seems to be big into that side of things. Might be no harm to have him involved. Arien Delaney either, if he was open to it.

Brennan will get the chance to see every senior team in the championship at least twice now too, which will help him get a handle on what's out there in the county. He might be enough of a draw to keep Healy commuting for another year as well, although we can't keep expecting him to do that. I don't know how he's done it this long.

I hope it goes well, best of luck to him.

Laois / Re: Leinster Minor Football Championship 2018
« on: July 31, 2018, 02:53:23 PM »
County board need to appoint an S&C coach to oversee all levels in both hurling and football.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by this, whether you want one S&C coach to implement a programme and be on-site for every squad in both codes, or someone to work with all the other S&C coaches and 'oversee' it in that regard?

It has often been said that one S&C coach should be appointed to take charge of all county teams directly, but I got chatting to an S&C coach a few years ago and asked him about that, and he said it's totally unfeasible. The workload would be enormous and it would be unrealistic to expect them to look after all squads in both codes, because they'd be working 7 nights a week.

What he put to me as the alternative is a High Performance Director, someone to co-ordinate between all the different coaches being used by the county teams, to make sure best practice is being implemented etc. They could dip in and out of each age group then, and when the county season is over then they would have more time to meet players or make sure they are sticking to whatever programme they are on.

Again, that all sounds great written down, but finding the money to pay someone and finding the right candidate would be tricky. You'd need someone with a background in nutrition or diet as well, because that's a big part of a proper S&C regime too. We definitely need to up our game on that aspect of development squads though, it's frightening to see the difference between Laois players and Dublin/Kildare/Meath at minor level in football. It's almost reckless to be sending some of our lads out to try compete with them.

Laois / Re: Under age amalgamation
« on: July 27, 2018, 03:04:52 PM »
I think if the county board want to push hurling in the football only areas, they need to set up 2 clubs. One to cover Port, Emo, Courtwood, Annanough and maybe Stradbally. The other to cover Joseph's, Ballylinan parish, Killeshin and Graigue.

The second area is more or less covered by Slieve Margy, and Graigue do a small bit of hurling already.

To be honest, I'd sooner see the county board push hurling in Portlaoise first, before trying to get it going in other football areas.

Laois / Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2018
« on: July 27, 2018, 11:22:34 AM »
Looking at him last night, I think O'Carroll will have to be moved into either full-forward or centre-forward, he only really seemed to bother when he got the ball in hand and could run forward. They may as well keep him close to goal because he doesn't have the work rate for midfield. If I was a Crettyard man I'd have been disappointed with him last night tbh.

If the Ballinakill lads had played a bit more football this year, Crettyard could have won that game. Cha missed 1-2 or 1-3 there in the second half, Sean Downey looked rusty as well. Maher was quiet for them too whereas he normally directs the play for them. If they re-jig the team, they should be grand.

Yeah, happy to.

What he's really saying is this - 'I shit my pants again playing on the trampoline and my mammy says I can't go see the new Teen Titans movie in the cinema, so I'm mad about everything'

I think that's more or less it, in a nutshell.

Laois / Re: Parish/Club Eligibility Rules etc.
« on: July 12, 2018, 10:04:51 PM »
When you say 'back living in Laois', does that mean you lived here before and played for a club here?

If so, if you transferred out within the last two years, I think you have to transfer back to your original club. If you're gone longer than that, you can transfer back to whoever you like.

If you transfer to a hurling club that doesn't field any football team, you can apply to play football as an isolated player if there is no football on offer in the club/parish. That rule is fairly loosely applied, and there are many variables at play, for example - who you are, who your father is, who you're related to, are you any good, the mood in the room at any given county board meeting, the gulf stream, the polar ice caps, brexit, the french air traffic controllers strike, and of course, whether you prefer lyons or barrys tea.

I hope that sheds some light on the issue for you!

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