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« Reply #4530 on: July 18, 2017, 12:31:27 PM »
Even im startin to enjoy the football! Never doubted the players and I'm certain they are good enough to beat Dublin and kerry if we keep letting them play positive.

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« Reply #4531 on: July 18, 2017, 12:32:36 PM »
Even im startin to enjoy the football! Never doubted the players and I'm certain they are good enough to beat Dublin and kerry if we keep letting them play positive.

Who are you and what have you done with southtyronegael???
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« Reply #4532 on: July 18, 2017, 12:47:50 PM »
Lol. I have him tied up in a dark room up in garvaghy.

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« Reply #4533 on: July 18, 2017, 01:04:22 PM »
Mickey you gotta let him go. How did you get his password or was he already logged on and you got his phone.

Strange times indeed. Even Fearon and Main Street seem to be saying Tyrone have moved on to a new level.

Tyrone GAA, do you not see any advantage on Tyrone playing a containment style game to frustrate the Dubs (should we get there) in the first half and then maybe bring Sean on then in the 2nd half?
My point is often it's the final 15-20 mins of a game that is the crucial time or the start of that third quarter.

Also, as you know Sean is always targetted now from the start of games and we don't want him going into the 2nd half with another yellow card next to his name. He needs to be careful with that arm in around the shoulder tackle that he does quite often as he's such a big man.

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« Reply #4534 on: July 18, 2017, 01:34:48 PM »
Mickey you gotta let him go. How did you get his password or was he already logged on and you got his phone.

Strange times indeed. Even Fearon and Main Street seem to be saying Tyrone have moved on to a new level.

Tyrone GAA, do you not see any advantage on Tyrone playing a containment style game to frustrate the Dubs (should we get there) in the first half and then maybe bring Sean on then in the 2nd half?
My point is often it's the final 15-20 mins of a game that is the crucial time or the start of that third quarter.

Also, as you know Sean is always targetted now from the start of games and we don't want him going into the 2nd half with another yellow card next to his name. He needs to be careful with that arm in around the shoulder tackle that he does quite often as he's such a big man.

Fuzz, from what I have seen to date I'm very confident with the current defensive structure in place.  Colm Cavanagh offers the necessary protection in front of goals and I have been impressed by the amount of times our defence turnover the opposition.  I don't think Sean not starting is even an option worth exploring, that would suggest he isn't capable of 70mins football???  Sean's role in the side is a new one.  I hate to see him in and around our half back line (where he tends to pick up the odd yellow).  He shouldn't be allowed to pass midfield and be that option for the out ball with Harte/McCann/Donnelly bombing forward in support.

I do feel against Dublin if we leave Bradley as the only inside man that could spell trouble we will be solely reliant on the running game that Dublin can easily match with the likes of Jack Mccaffery and James McCarthy
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« Reply #4535 on: July 18, 2017, 02:05:42 PM »
The big worry for us is the way Dublin defend in their full back line. They're so strong they, more or less, mark their men from the front. Colm Parkinson was on about this in his podcast and lamenting Kildare not going for more ball over the top as Flynn and Brophy would be to big men who could take advantage of that. Mark Bradley is built for pace and movement, the Dublin backs could eat that up all day. My fear is the one man FF line works against weaker opposition but the big teams exploit this massively. Bradley has done a great job so far by creating space, winning ball out in front and laying off for the runners. This will be harder against a team like Dublin and to a lesser extent Kerry.

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« Reply #4536 on: July 18, 2017, 02:14:07 PM »
Was wondering about the age of most of these players and who among them have won minors and u21s.
Like was Declan McClure an U21 winner or did he miss out?
Are Harte, Mattie and McNabb the only minors who made it through to this team?

If anyone can fill in what years players won a minor or U21 that would be great below and if you know their age?
Are Sean, Colm, McCarron and Justy the only ones with senior AI medals?
It's a pity the Tyronegaa.ie website doesn't do player profiles

1 – Niall Morgan – Éadan na dTorc – 61 (18) - Did he not play underage for Tyrone?
2 – Aidan McCrory – Aireagal Chiaráin – 97 (25)
3 – Ronan McNamee – Achadh Uí Aráin – 64 (19)
4 – Cathal McCarron – An Droim Mór – 99 (26)                 2008 AI Senior winner (sub)
5 – Tiernan McCann – Coill an Chlochair – 56 (15)
6 – Pádraig Hampsey – Oileán a’Ghuail – 22 (4)               2015 AI U21 winner
7 – Peter Harte – Aireagal Chiaráin – 118 (39)                 2008 AI minor winner
8 – Colm Cavanagh – An Mhaigh – 136 (50)                    2008 AI Senior winner (came on)
9 – Conall McCann – Coill an Chlochair – 28 (6)
10 – David Mulgrew – Ard Bó – 7 (2)
11 – Niall Sludden – An Droim Mór – 29 (7)                      2010 AI minor winner
12 – Kieran McGeary – Cabhán a’Chaortainn 19 (5)           2015 AI U21 winner
13 – Mark Bradley – Coill an Chlochair 35 (14)                  2015 AI U21 winner
14 – Sean Cavanagh (c) – An Mhaigh 236 (86)                 2008 AI Senior winner
15 – Matthew Donnelly – Trí Leac 92 (29)                         2008 AI minor winner
16 – Michael O’Neill – Cluain Eo – 24 (5)                           2015 AI U21 winner
17 – Lee Brennan – Trí Leac – 13 (1)                                2015 AI U21 winner
18 – Rory Brennan – Trí Leac – 28 (10)                            2015 AI U21 winner
19 – Michael Cassidy – Ard Bó – 1 (0)                               2015 AI U21 winner
20 – Richard Donnelly – Trí Leac – 15 (5)                       2010 AI minor winner
21 – Declan McClure – Cluain Eo – 11 (2)
22 – Darren McCurry – Éadan na dTorc – 74 (27)
23 – Justin McMahon – An Omaigh – 109 (38)                  2005 & 08 AI senior winner
24 – Cathal McShane – Eoghan Ruadh Uí Néill 28 (9)        2015 AI U21 winner
25 – Conor Meyler – An Omaigh – 23 (6)                         2015 AI U21 winner
26 – Ronan O’Neill – An Omaigh – 65 (15)                       2010 AI minor winner
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« Reply #4537 on: July 18, 2017, 03:01:18 PM »
The big worry for us is the way Dublin defend in their full back line. They're so strong they, more or less, mark their men from the front. Colm Parkinson was on about this in his podcast and lamenting Kildare not going for more ball over the top as Flynn and Brophy would be to big men who could take advantage of that. Mark Bradley is built for pace and movement, the Dublin backs could eat that up all day. My fear is the one man FF line works against weaker opposition but the big teams exploit this massively. Bradley has done a great job so far by creating space, winning ball out in front and laying off for the runners. This will be harder against a team like Dublin and to a lesser extent Kerry.

So youse play Dublin in the qf then?

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« Reply #4538 on: July 18, 2017, 03:12:36 PM »
The big worry for us is the way Dublin defend in their full back line. They're so strong they, more or less, mark their men from the front. Colm Parkinson was on about this in his podcast and lamenting Kildare not going for more ball over the top as Flynn and Brophy would be to big men who could take advantage of that. Mark Bradley is built for pace and movement, the Dublin backs could eat that up all day. My fear is the one man FF line works against weaker opposition but the big teams exploit this massively. Bradley has done a great job so far by creating space, winning ball out in front and laying off for the runners. This will be harder against a team like Dublin and to a lesser extent Kerry.

So youse play Dublin in the qf then?

No its Kildare in the Quarter Final, Dublin in the semi final and Kerry in the Final.  8)
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« Reply #4539 on: July 18, 2017, 03:45:35 PM »
Does there still be that GOAL charity match for the winners a few days after the final? Wonder who we would play in that?

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« Reply #4540 on: July 18, 2017, 03:58:51 PM »
I don't know folks but I think ye are all getting away ahead of yerselves here.
I mean Kerry will be sitting waiting in the final for us having beaten Galway and Roscommon in the quarters and semis.


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« Reply #4541 on: July 18, 2017, 04:11:27 PM »
I don't know folks but I think ye are all getting away ahead of yerselves here.
I mean Kerry will be sitting waiting in the final for us having beaten Galway and Roscommon in the quarters and semis.

Will you head to the banquet yourself Fuzzman? Or head up the road on the Sunday evening for the homecoming on Monday in Aughnacloy/Garvaghy? You can stay with STG!

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« Reply #4542 on: July 18, 2017, 05:25:15 PM »
Naw, I'll hold off for the 3 in a row banquet square_ball. You can't be going to that every year. Wile dear.
That's if there's not a West and East Tyrone by then.

Actually I was at the Donegal banquet in 2012 when Jim McG got me in for free to the afters.

Lenny, I'm curious how you see the semifinals shaping up. How would you like to play who and with what final outcome?
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« Reply #4543 on: July 18, 2017, 06:11:45 PM »
Was wondering about the age of most of these players and who among them have won minors and u21s.
Like was Declan McClure an U21 winner or did he miss out?
Are Harte, Mattie and McNabb the only minors who made it through to this team?

If anyone can fill in what years players won a minor or U21 that would be great below and if you know their age?
Are Sean, Colm, McCarron and Justy the only ones with senior AI medals?
It's a pity the Tyronegaa.ie website doesn't do player profiles

1 – Niall Morgan – Éadan na dTorc – 61 (18) - Did he not play underage for Tyrone?
2 – Aidan McCrory – Aireagal Chiaráin – 97 (25)
3 – Ronan McNamee – Achadh Uí Aráin – 64 (19)
4 – Cathal McCarron – An Droim Mór – 99 (26)                 2008 AI Senior winner (sub)
5 – Tiernan McCann – Coill an Chlochair – 56 (15)
6 – Pádraig Hampsey – Oileán a’Ghuail – 22 (4)               2015 AI U21 winner
7 – Peter Harte – Aireagal Chiaráin – 118 (39)                 2008 AI minor winner
8 – Colm Cavanagh – An Mhaigh – 136 (50)                    2008 AI Senior winner (came on)
9 – Conall McCann – Coill an Chlochair – 28 (6)
10 – David Mulgrew – Ard Bó – 7 (2)
11 – Niall Sludden – An Droim Mór – 29 (7)                      2010 AI minor winner
12 – Kieran McGeary – Cabhán a’Chaortainn 19 (5)           2015 AI U21 winner
13 – Mark Bradley – Coill an Chlochair 35 (14)                  2015 AI U21 winner
14 – Sean Cavanagh (c) – An Mhaigh 236 (86)                 2008 AI Senior winner
15 – Matthew Donnelly – Trí Leac 92 (29)                         2008 AI minor winner
16 – Michael O’Neill – Cluain Eo – 24 (5)                           2015 AI U21 winner
17 – Lee Brennan – Trí Leac – 13 (1)                                2015 AI U21 winner
18 – Rory Brennan – Trí Leac – 28 (10)                            2015 AI U21 winner
19 – Michael Cassidy – Ard Bó – 1 (0)                               2015 AI U21 winner
20 – Richard Donnelly – Trí Leac – 15 (5)                       2010 AI minor winner
21 – Declan McClure – Cluain Eo – 11 (2)
22 – Darren McCurry – Éadan na dTorc – 74 (27)
23 – Justin McMahon – An Omaigh – 109 (38)                  2005 & 08 AI senior winner
24 – Cathal McShane – Eoghan Ruadh Uí Néill 28 (9)        2015 AI U21 winner
25 – Conor Meyler – An Omaigh – 23 (6)                         2015 AI U21 winner
26 – Ronan O’Neill – An Omaigh – 65 (15)                       2010 AI minor winner

Morgan, McNammee, Tiernan McCann Minor in 09 (Unluckily beat by Armagh first round who then won All Ireland. Under 21 in 2012 losing Ulster final to Cavan. McNamee was injured for that years Under 21s. Morgan didn't play, soccer maybe at the time?
McCurry minor in 2010 and 2011.
Declan McClure Conall McCann midfield Tyrone Under 21 in 2014.
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« Reply #4544 on: July 18, 2017, 09:58:33 PM »
This is Mickey Harte's 15th season in charge of the Tyrone team. Interesting to look at our record over that time. In 6 of the years (2003, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2016, 2017) we won the ulster titles. In two other years that we didn't win the ulster we went on to win the All Ireland (2005 and 2008). In a further two years we reached the All Ireland semi final through the back door (2013 and 2015). So in 10 out of the 15 years he has been manager we have either won the all Ireland, an ulster title or got to the All Ireland semi final. In a further two years we reached a quarter final.

When you consider where we came from before he took over and if you look round at the rest of the counties in ulster that is a serious record. It was crazy that he didn't get reappointed by the county board when he asked for an extension last year. From the outside looking in there appeared to be an itch to get rid of him from some within the county board particularly before the run in 2015.

Some of the main points of complaints on here have been:
Lack of scores - we have averaged 23 points this championship which is probably an ulster championship record for us.
Mickey dominates club fixtures - 9 games played to date with the county players on board. Might even be another one this weekend. I'd say that matches and betters most counties in Ireland.
Not enough east Tyrone men on the team - seems to have increased in recent years. Hampsey McClure Mulgrew Morgan McCurry Cavanaghs x 2 all featured.

Judging by Sunday it seems the majority of the county are back behind the team. Hopefully it stays that way as we continue to go through a great period in Tyrone gaa history. Lets hope for a big finish to the year now and we don't have any flat performances in croke park like last year.
i think your post is very disrespectful to all the good county managers we have had before mickey. where did we come from before mickey? we won ulster in 2001 then national league 2002 so hardly rock bottom. sure art mc crory had won as many ulsters as harte up until sunday. there will be plenty more good tyrone men to manage our team long after harte is gone too