UK General Election 2017

Started by Eamonnca1, April 18, 2017, 07:09:42 PM

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seafoid

Quote from: armaghniac on May 25, 2017, 11:22:51 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on May 25, 2017, 11:01:43 PM
Getting interesting now!

YouGov/Times:

CON 43 (-1)
LAB 38 (+3)
LD 10 (+1)
UKIP 4 (+1)
OTH 6 (-2)

These sort of numbers could get interesting if the LDs and Labour engaged in tactical voting.
I think there was a project to target the 50 most vulnerable Tory seats.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

manfromdelmonte

These thing go in cycles, Tories have been there long enough now
I'd say if Labour had a more public friendly leader they would win the GE

Minder

Quote from: seafoid on May 26, 2017, 07:35:46 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 25, 2017, 11:22:51 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on May 25, 2017, 11:01:43 PM
Getting interesting now!

YouGov/Times:

CON 43 (-1)
LAB 38 (+3)
LD 10 (+1)
UKIP 4 (+1)
OTH 6 (-2)

These sort of numbers could get interesting if the LDs and Labour engaged in tactical voting.
I think there was a project to target the 50 most vulnerable Tory seats.

Really? Corbyn hasn't even been canvassing/campaigning in marginal seats
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

seafoid

Quote from: Minder on May 26, 2017, 07:58:48 AM
Quote from: seafoid on May 26, 2017, 07:35:46 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 25, 2017, 11:22:51 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on May 25, 2017, 11:01:43 PM
Getting interesting now!

YouGov/Times:

CON 43 (-1)
LAB 38 (+3)
LD 10 (+1)
UKIP 4 (+1)
OTH 6 (-2)

These sort of numbers could get interesting if the LDs and Labour engaged in tactical voting.
I think there was a project to target the 50 most vulnerable Tory seats.

Really? Corbyn hasn't even been canvassing/campaigning in marginal seats
There were a few articles about it in the Guardian. Where lib dem strongest Labour voters would support. Like FF vote management.
The polls are based on max 2500 people and wouldn't pick this up.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

AZOffaly

Quote from: armaghniac on May 25, 2017, 11:22:51 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on May 25, 2017, 11:01:43 PM
Getting interesting now!

YouGov/Times:

CON 43 (-1)
LAB 38 (+3)
LD 10 (+1)
UKIP 4 (+1)
OTH 6 (-2)

These sort of numbers could get interesting if the LDs and Labour engaged in tactical voting.

Lads have we not seen a load of times that polls are pretty shit?

seafoid

Sterling is down following the poll. 5 points is equivalent to 26 seats per the FT.

https://www.ft.com/content/9546c88d-a21d-3e76-8a4f-3e51e323ab80

   the sharp narrowing to just a 5 percentage point gap marked the "key" threshold where markets will begin to doubt the probability of a Tory majority, said Jordan Rochester at Nomura.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

johnneycool

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 26, 2017, 07:51:32 AM
These thing go in cycles, Tories have been there long enough now
I'd say if Labour had a more public friendly leader they would win the GE

The thing with Corbyn is if anything he is public friendly but the mainstream media don't like him and try to corner him on things like the other day and his support for the IRA/Terrorists and so forth which he handles reasonably well.
He's not good on Brexit and he's not good at going after May who is there to be taken down if he was more aggressive in his approach to her.

Franko

Quote from: johnneycool on May 26, 2017, 10:30:16 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 26, 2017, 07:51:32 AM
These thing go in cycles, Tories have been there long enough now
I'd say if Labour had a more public friendly leader they would win the GE

The thing with Corbyn is if anything he is public friendly but the mainstream media don't like him and try to corner him on things like the other day and his support for the IRA/Terrorists and so forth which he handles reasonably well.
He's not good on Brexit and he's not good at going after May who is there to be taken down if he was more aggressive in his approach to her.

Hi does seem to be very weak on Brexit, though I think his non-aggression towards May is a good point.  He talks about the issues and doesn't play the (wo)man.  He comes across as an absolute gentleman and I think he would command respect from liberal Europe in any negotiations.  May has made a laughing stock of herself with her multiple u-turns and 'strong and stable' bullshit rhetoric.

seafoid

Corbyn answers questions openly and he doesn't stick to spin. He is a better communicator than May.
Also I think the Tories have a lot of lightweights.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Minder

Be interesting to see how he communicates with Andrew Neil this evening
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

Franko

#235
Quote from: Minder on May 26, 2017, 10:49:08 AM
Be interesting to see how he communicates with Andrew Neil this evening

Will be a massive test for him.  I hope Neil doesn't pull out the Daily Mail's stock lie that Corbyn refused to condemn the IRA bombing in Manchester.

Corbyn realises that a suicide bombing in Manchester and the death of over a million people in the Middle East in Brit backed illegal wars are not unrelated issues.

Minder

#236
Quote from: Franko on May 26, 2017, 11:04:50 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 26, 2017, 10:49:08 AM
Be interesting to see how he communicates with Andrew Neil this evening

Will be a massive test for him.  I hope Neil doesn't pull out the Daily Mail's stock lie that Corbyn refused to condemn the IRA bombing in Manchester.

Corbyn realises that a suicide bombing in Manchester and the death of over a million people in the Middle East in Brit backed illegal wars are not unrelated issues.

Neil is usually fair and can back up what he is asking, he makes mincemeat out of most of them.

I honestly think support for the IRA will be the least of his problems
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

screenexile

As much as I would like to see Labour overturn the Tories it's causing a huge pain in my ass for work with the rate dropping 3.5% in a month!!

Looking forward to Neil's interview tonight!

Franko

Quote from: Minder on May 26, 2017, 11:17:23 AM
Quote from: Franko on May 26, 2017, 11:04:50 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 26, 2017, 10:49:08 AM
Be interesting to see how he communicates with Andrew Neil this evening

Will be a massive test for him.  I hope Neil doesn't pull out the Daily Mail's stock lie that Corbyn refused to condemn the IRA bombing in Manchester.

Corbyn realises that a suicide bombing in Manchester and the death of over a million people in the Middle East in Brit backed illegal wars are not unrelated issues.

Neil is usually fair and can back up what he is asking, he makes mincemeat out of most of them.

I honestly think support for the IRA will be the least of his problems

What do you think are going to be his issues?  From what I understand Labour's manifesto promises have been fully costed and verified.  Brexit going to catch him out?  He'd have to perform very badly to do worse than that parroting imbecile May.

Denn Forever

But they all seem to be hung than he didn't say IRA actions.
I have more respect for a man
that says what he means and
means what he says...