Would you be in favour of a second tier?

[Owenmoresider]

You'll find that Euro Soccer thingy is now called "Champions League".

How could we forget, after all every gobshite who needs their opinions spoonfed to them on this subject automatically comes out with "let's have a champions league format" because someone like Breheny or Spillane came up with it years ago, and the herd followed suit.

[Rossfan]

We could maybe just focus on targeting "weaker" counties for increased financing, underage coaching, infrastructure etc rather than just chopping and changing and deluding ourselves into thinking this will make everything rosey. How is a perennial division 4 team ever going to get better if the best they can come up against is a division 4 team in some Mickey Mouse Tommy Murphy mkII?

How much did Louth and Carlow improve from the batins they got recently in Leinster?
You do realise the current proposals provide for the retention of the Provincials where the little teams can still play the big ones?

All the money in the world won't make Leitrim competitive with Dublin which has 40 times the population.

[five points]

How much did Louth and Carlow improve from the batins they got recently in Leinster?

The Carlow manager is a strong opponent of a tiered championship.

You do realise the current proposals provide for the retention of the Provincials where the little teams can still play the big ones?

In name only. Shoving them to the winter.

[Rossfan]

Who's shoving Provincials to the Winter?

[five points]

Who's shoving Provincials to the Winter?

Provincials can be played pre-season (Jan-Mar) replacing McKenna, O'Byrne, FBD etc.

[trailer]

People should go off and read what the GAA has proposed, then come back and discuss. Because someone on here has said lets do X, does not mean it's a viable option. For Gods sake if we implemented some of the stupid ideas proposed on this thread the game would be dead in 5 years.

[BennyCake]

If they bring in tiered system, what's the point of keeping the provincials? They just become the McKenna Cup. Nice to get a couple games under your belt, but ultimately, nobody gives a toss.

An open draw is the only way to go. People still remember the Meath Dublin marathon in 1991. Imagine the coverage a Dublin Kerry would get for the first round? You would sell it 10 times over.

[JoG2]

If they bring in tiered system, what's the point of keeping the provincials? They just become the McKenna Cup. Nice to get a couple games under your belt, but ultimately, nobody gives a toss.

An open draw is the only way to go. People still remember the Meath Dublin marathon in 1991. Imagine the coverage a Dublin Kerry would get for the first round? You would sell it 10 times over.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the initial proposals from HQ are to retain the Provincials and EVERY county starts with a chance of winning Sam Maguire. IF a Div 3 or 4 team reaches their provincial final they continue on in the Sam Maguire tier. If they don't they play in a B Tier with the other Div 3 and Div 4 teams who didn't reach the Provincial final.  Surely this is fair enough for all counties?

[Rossfan]

You have it correct  Jog2.
The amount of "fake news" being blown about here is something else

[The Boy Wonder]

Just to clarify - GAA President John Horan actually expressed an aspiration and there are no formal proposals tabled as yet.

John Horan said:
"Our hope will be at the next central council meeting in June to bring forward proposals to look at the introduction of a Tier 2 Championship for those teams in Division Three and Four.
"There's an appetite out there within the organisation to go ahead with a Tier 2 Championship and now is the time to grab that while the appetite is out there and I think we will possibly get it through at Central Council. If we do we'll call a Special Congress in September/October to look at putting it forward to maybe having it introduced next year."

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2019/0527/1051926-gaa-president-pressing-forward-with-tier-2-championship/

[irish345]

get rid of provincials or keep them separate replace mckenna cup etc with provincials infact maybe you could start provincials in January and have them on a league and playoff format  ulster championship could be 1 group of 4 and a group of 5

The leinster championship could have two divisions top division of 6 teams  in the top division the team that finishes top gets place in final and 2nd plays 3rd in a semi final  the bottom team is relegated to leinster 2nd divsion

same with munster championship all teams in a league league winner gets place in finals 2nd v 3rd in semi final

Start provincials the 1st weekend after christmas

If you going to have two tier championships then you have 4 groups of 4 then top two in each group go into qfs  the teams that finish bottom of the groups go into playoffs to see who get relegated

[irish345]

no way the gaa would ever go open draw championship i would love it but we are not in the era of open draw championships anymore im a big fan of open draw as it gives weaker teams hope and does not protect the big teams but no way would the gaa risk having kerry v dublin in 1st round it be great for a neutral but gaa wont risk a big team going out early or there dash cow dublin potentially getting knockout in 1st round

[BennyCake]

no way the gaa would ever go open draw championship i would love it but we are not in the era of open draw championships anymore im a big fan of open draw as it gives weaker teams hope and does not protect the big teams but no way would the gaa risk having kerry v dublin in 1st round it be great for a neutral but gaa wont risk a big team going out early or there dash cow dublin potentially getting knockout in 1st round

Yup, I agree.

[Farrandeelin]

Most Counties have group stages in their County Championships.

Mores the pity.

[Rossfan]

Train 6 months for 1 meaningful game for half your players?
Local soccer and Rugby clubs would love that.