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Armagh hadnt scored in the 15 mins before that. And tbh hadn't had many chances that they missed during that period AFAIR either so makes it even more hard to comprehend why they didn't have a go at one of those.

[Can't fathom why 2 Armagh players refused a mark to win the game with time nearly up.]

That was a great watch, fair play to both teams for a brilliant effort, that could have gone either way. Horrible for Armagh players [and supporters] but that's sport I spose.  Unbelievable that there are posters saying that was a poor quality game!

Can't fathom why 2 Armagh players refused a mark to win the game with time nearly up.

Penalties no way to decide a game, better to keep playing periods of extra time until there's a winner IMO.

Armagh are there or thereabouts, I would say McGeeney has them at near their max on most days out. He mightn't be the best manager about but for sure there a plenty worse. For those of you who want him out and there are plenty on here, who is coming in to replace him that's obviously better?

It is easy to talk the talk but if that translated into the real world there are a couple of guys on this board who would be doing goals for Armagh in a penalty shootout lol

PS Soupy Campbell is one of the most exciting players to watch I have ever seen.

Cpuld it be that they were afraid of missing and giving posession back to Donegal?

Given the scoring ration to shots the chances are Donegal would have scored one of them - perhaps the Amragh players felt the shot they were oging to tae had to be low risk rather than a mark from a difficult position

Whilst I said I 'couldn't fathom' why they didn't take on the shot you could have used your brain and worked out that I knew this was the reason.

What a shift from the Louth men. Will give the qualifiers a serious rattle

It's just Louths turn on the Leinster merry go round to try and try and burst a gut and still fail and then support wains and the team dies just like Meath, Kildare and Laois.

The pick of the other teams in Leinster wouldn't beat Dublin, that's the reality.

You say 'burst a gut' as if that's a bad thing!

That was a great watch, fair play to both teams for a brilliant effort, that could have gone either way. Horrible for Armagh players [and supporters] but that's sport I spose.  Unbelievable that there are posters saying that was a poor quality game!

Can't fathom why 2 Armagh players refused a mark to win the game with time nearly up.

Penalties no way to decide a game, better to keep playing periods of extra time until there's a winner IMO.

Armagh are there or thereabouts, I would say McGeeney has them at near their max on most days out. He mightn't be the best manager about but for sure there a plenty worse. For those of you who want him out and there are plenty on here, who is coming in to replace him that's obviously better?

It is easy to talk the talk but if that translated into the real world there are a couple of guys on this board who would be doing goals for Armagh in a penalty shootout lol

PS Soupy Campbell is one of the most exciting players to watch I have ever seen.

Bit shocked that there has only been one person who has been out selling for his club out of all the purported great gaa men on here.

Plenty of people on to comment and whinge though, sums up the gaaboard perfectly I spose.

Derry must have given up 2-05 directly from turnovers, they have too many forwards whose first inclination is to have a wee solo which resulted in them getting outmuscled in the tackle time after time. This was a clear problem in the donegal game [first game I seen so was probably an issue in previous matches] and should have been remedied before the final.

They should also have started their strongest team and this would have been a comfortable win!!!!

None of the listed AB countries for me.

I've been to Aruba though.

Not a country.

Its always a grey area

In January 1986, Aruba seceded from the Netherlands Antilles, becoming a constituent country of the Kingdom in its own right. In October 2010, the Netherlands Antilles was dissolved and Curaçao and Sint Maarten became the newest constituent countries of the Kingdom of the Netherlands.

There is SFA grey about it. It is not a country.

None of the listed AB countries for me.

I've been to Aruba though.

Not a country.

Whatever the opposite of cute hoorism is, a lot of Armagh fans on this board have it in abundance.

200 Countries, Wikipedia is full of shit.

Work with teenagers and there have been a few males identify as female [or vv], and ask to be referred to as she etc and dress across the gender. 

After the initial WTAF (soto voce of course) it just becomes another one of those things. Having said that there weren't any issues with toileting etc which could have raised the temperature I spose.

The other teens don't seem to raise an eyebrow about it tbh. I suspect, with zero empirical evidence of course, that quite a lot of it is attention seeking behaviour.

Ach come on man, yous gave the ball away under zero pressure a dozen times in the first half and kicked 3 or 4 good point chances into their  keepers hands.

The first thing good coaching does is establish the right mindset.

Ok. So tell me what mindset Andy McEntee and Colm O'Rourke have given our players? Are they telling them they can't win? Are they telling them it doesn't matter if we lose? Of course not. Don't be thick.

As I said these lad have been winners coming up through the minor ranks. Do you think Keoghan is still playing over a 100 games for the county for a bit of craic?

I bet the stuff the Meath lads are hearing in training in terms of mindset etc is no different than any other county. Why would it be any different?

And saying there's no pressure is nonsense. There's pressure on every ball and pass in that game because possession is key.

If you know any thing about it it's because the people in charge of Meath football don't know what they're doing. They put good things in place and then let it fall apart.

Dublin have a full time S&C professional overseeing that from U14 right to senior who was working with Leinster rugby previously. We've had 2 people in to do a similar job who stuck around for about 2 years each and then quit.

It's not the players mindsets, it's not Colm O'Rourke, it's the mindset perhaps of the county board and their small mindedness.

Doesn't do much for your argument when you have to resort to abuse.

And to be honest your argument is as limp as some of the Meath shooting, as it appears you are agreeing with me that there is a mindset issue but that it originates at County board level not with the coaches or players.

Performance Enhancing Drugs.

Tactically we did nothing wrong. There was a lot of positives but there seems to be a gap in terms of strength and conditioning.

Your players kept making unforced errors, continually hand-passing and kicking the ball to Dublin players when under zero pressure, absolutely nothing to do with S&C.

It was clear they did not believe they could beat Dublin. Until that mindset changes they [and the other leinster teams] will stay in the same place.

Disagree. Our players were running out of steam by the end they looked like they could play for another 20 minutes.

Mistakes were made as we got tired. Unless you're a mind reader you can't claim to know the mindset of players. I'm sick of bluffers spouting this shite like they were in the dressing room and all week at training.

It's not mindset. It's coaching. And we've been doing it wrong for about 10 years. These lads have beaten Dublin at Minor and U20's and have Siegerson medals.

Once we get to senior there's a drop off and our promising players development plateaus. It's 100% coaching and S&C.

Ach come on man, yous gave the ball away under zero pressure a dozen times in the first half and kicked 3 or 4 good point chances into their  keepers hands.

The first thing good coaching does is establish the right mindset.

Performance Enhancing Drugs.

Tactically we did nothing wrong. There was a lot of positives but there seems to be a gap in terms of strength and conditioning.

Your players kept making unforced errors, continually hand-passing and kicking the ball to Dublin players when under zero pressure, absolutely nothing to do with S&C.

It was clear they did not believe they could beat Dublin. Until that mindset changes they [and the other leinster teams] will stay in the same place.

[Hamas for some reason are being held to a much higher moral authority than the IDF who have killed civilians at will for years, yet nothing is done about it.]

Who has a rock concert outside a prison camp?

This type of justification is a bit like saying that it is ok to bomb a hospital because there are terrorists in the area.

Also,
  over 30% of those killed by Hamas that day were members of the IDF, how many Israelis killed by the IDF that very same day is still very much up for debate.
I'm not saying Hamas didn't kill civilians that day but we now know the raping and beheaded babies were all IDF lies and propaganda.

The beheaded babies was propaganda, but I think it is difficult to claim that nobody was sexually assaulted.

Hamas for some reason are being held to a much higher moral authority than the IDF who have killed civilians at will for years, yet nothing is done about it.

No, they are not. Hamas are evil, the question has been whether the Israelis are much the same.

Denies Hamas being held to a higher moral standard than Israel.

Next sentence.... holds Hamas to higher moral standard than Israel.

Looper.