Sam Maguire permutations

Started by seafoid, April 11, 2023, 09:40:18 PM

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twohands!!!

Kildare v Monaghan
Cork v Roscommon
Donegal vs Tyrone
Galway v Mayo

balladmaker

Quote from: twohands!!! on June 19, 2023, 08:45:39 AM
Kildare v Monaghan
Cork v Roscommon
Donegal vs Tyrone
Galway v Mayo

Kildare
Roscommon
Tyrone
Who knows!

smort

Monaghan
Roscommon
Tyrone
Galway

GJL

Do we know the quarter match-ups or is that another draw to be made?

Blowitupref

Quote from: GJL on June 19, 2023, 09:23:24 AM
Do we know the quarter match-ups or is that another draw to be made?

Another draw required.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

An Fhairche Abu

The advantage of finishing top of the group is really being seen now, that one point difference yesterday has transformed the trajectory of both Galway and Armagh's seasons.
Galway to beat Mayo without Comer and Kelly is a big ask. Shane Walsh is way off form as well, no matter what squad depth you try and build, if you're top class difference makers are injured or out of form then it's tough to get results.

Milltown Row2

Donegal don't lose too many games in Donegal
Galway might have enough but huge impact on injuries going forward may scupper them
Monaghan could do it, though Kildare are looking at this as the best draw
Cork should have too much on the Rossies if they play like they did yesterday, though expect the Rossies to go full on defence
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

seafoid

Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 19, 2023, 09:31:57 AM
The advantage of finishing top of the group is really being seen now, that one point difference yesterday has transformed the trajectory of both Galway and Armagh's seasons.
Galway to beat Mayo without Comer and Kelly is a big ask. Shane Walsh is way off form as well, no matter what squad depth you try and build, if you're top class difference makers are injured or out of form then it's tough to get results.
I thought Sean O Maolchiarain was fit again. Could he not fit in the full back line ? Comer is more difficult to replace.

An Fhairche Abu

Quote from: seafoid on June 19, 2023, 09:37:22 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 19, 2023, 09:31:57 AM
The advantage of finishing top of the group is really being seen now, that one point difference yesterday has transformed the trajectory of both Galway and Armagh's seasons.
Galway to beat Mayo without Comer and Kelly is a big ask. Shane Walsh is way off form as well, no matter what squad depth you try and build, if you're top class difference makers are injured or out of form then it's tough to get results.
I thought Sean O Maolchiarain was fit again. Could he not fit in the full back line ? Comer is more difficult to replace.
He's not going to be next nor near the level required for Senior IC after such a long layoff, same with the like of Molloy getting back for a few minutes with the club, throwing these lads in wouldn't be fair on them or a plausible option. If Mulkerrin is starting the next day we're in serious, serious bother.

Blowitupref

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2023, 09:34:57 AM
Donegal don't lose too many games in Donegal
Galway might have enough but huge impact on injuries going forward may scupper them
Monaghan could do it, though Kildare are looking at this as the best draw
Cork should have too much on the Rossies if they play like they did yesterday, though expect the Rossies to go full on defence

Before this year Donegal didn't in Ballybofey but Derry and Mayo comfortably beat them there this year and Tyrone should be edging that game   

Monaghan v Kildare a good draw for both.  Can the lilywhites build on yesterday when more will be expected of them, Monaghan looking to bounce back after unexpected defeat.

Cork tails up and looking very fit as they out scored Mayo 1-6 to no score in the final quarter, Roscommon heads down and looked leggy yesterday I'd side with the home team there.

Galway v Mayo the tie of the round, if Comer and Sean Kelly are out I think Mayo will likely win by a point or two.


Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

armaghniac

Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 19, 2023, 09:31:57 AM
The advantage of finishing top of the group is really being seen now, that one point difference yesterday has transformed the trajectory of both Galway and Armagh's seasons.
Galway to beat Mayo without Comer and Kelly is a big ask. Shane Walsh is way off form as well, no matter what squad depth you try and build, if you're top class difference makers are injured or out of form then it's tough to get results.

Galway now have to beat Mayo, and if they do then they could meet Kerry or Dublin next, they cannot meet Armagh so that probability is increased. Whereas if Galway and Tyrone win, then Armagh will play the winners of Kildare/Monaghan or Cork/Roscommon, none of whom are front runners to win Sam and who Armagh might beat.
Injuries might stop Galway, but if they got going again than the likes of Kerry would not fancy meeting them whereas presumably Kerry cannot be drawn against Mayo in the QF.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

imtommygunn

Monaghan to beat Kildare
Cork to beat Roscommon
Tyrone to beat Donegal
Galway to beat Mayo

clarshack

Quote from: Blowitupref on June 19, 2023, 09:29:17 AM
Quote from: GJL on June 19, 2023, 09:23:24 AM
Do we know the quarter match-ups or is that another draw to be made?

Another draw required.

Is the semi-final draw still based on the provincial draw or a new draw again?
I think this year would be Ulster v Leinster and Munster v Connacht but then Armagh have taken Galway's spot as Connacht winners.
If it is still based on the provincials then you imagine it will be Dublin v Derry and Kerry v the winners of Armaghs's 1/4 Final.

twohands!!!

Quote from: clarshack on June 19, 2023, 10:03:40 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 19, 2023, 09:29:17 AM
Quote from: GJL on June 19, 2023, 09:23:24 AM
Do we know the quarter match-ups or is that another draw to be made?

Another draw required.

Is the semi-final draw still based on the provincial draw or a new draw again?
I think this year would be Ulster v Leinster and Munster v Connacht but then Armagh have taken Galway's spot as Connacht winners.
If it is still based on the provincials then you imagine it will be Dublin v Derry and Kerry v the winners of Armaghs's 1/4 Final.

New draw - the provincial match-up structure is gone.

twohands!!!

Current Bookies odds for the All-Ireland

Kerry 2/1
Dublin 2/1
Derry 9/1
Armagh 9/1
Mayo 10/1
Galway 10/1
Tyrone 16/1
Monaghan 40/1
Roscommon 40/1
Cork 50/1
Donegal 66/1
Kildare 80/1