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Re: Hurling championship 2018
« Reply #60 on: May 22, 2018, 01:17:48 PM »
Oh, and Limerick were more reassured in defence once Mike Casey replaced Seamus Hickey, so there's strength in depth there.

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« Reply #61 on: May 22, 2018, 01:20:53 PM »
 An auld sidestep every now and then wouldn't go amiss.

re Hickey, yes, he's actually a liability for Limerick now, especially at full back.

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« Reply #62 on: May 22, 2018, 01:39:16 PM »
Break tackle but lay it off to the free man either beside you or low ball into a corner, problem being that the Tipp forwards are probably making the runs but by the time the ball comes in the defender is on top of him!

The options for the defenders were limited, some of that is due to Limerick, they seemed to have an extra man at times, hunting in pairs and sometimes there were 3 putting in the tackle..

Have Tipp anyone else to bring on? I'll not be backing them this Sunday (probably win now!)

How Hickey as you said AZ stayed on for as long as he did was a mystery, still a very good hurler, probably best on the halfback line

The Cork and Clare game seemed to be played at a higher tempo IMO, so it'll be a interesting game
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« Reply #63 on: May 22, 2018, 01:55:05 PM »
Break tackle but lay it off to the free man either beside you or low ball into a corner, problem being that the Tipp forwards are probably making the runs but by the time the ball comes in the defender is on top of him!

The options for the defenders were limited, some of that is due to Limerick, they seemed to have an extra man at times, hunting in pairs and sometimes there were 3 putting in the tackle..

Have Tipp anyone else to bring on? I'll not be backing them this Sunday (probably win now!)

How Hickey as you said AZ stayed on for as long as he did was a mystery, still a very good hurler, probably best on the halfback line

The Cork and Clare game seemed to be played at a higher tempo IMO, so it'll be a interesting game

Tipp have a relatively deep panel on paper, but it's not worth a shite if lads aren't playing. I'm not sure if Cathal Barrett is available, but if he is, I'd probably go something like

              Hogan

Flynn      Kennedy      Barrett

Heffernan B. Maher    P. Maher

         R. Maher    Billy McCarthy

Dan McCormack Bonnar Maher  Noel McGrath

John McGrath    Jason Forde    Seamie Callanan


You'd have Michael Breen as an option for Midfield/Half forward, Bubbles O'Dwyer for the full forward line, Sean Curran for half forward, Niall O'Meara for full forward line, James Barry for the backs.

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« Reply #64 on: May 22, 2018, 02:10:04 PM »
Break tackle but lay it off to the free man either beside you or low ball into a corner, problem being that the Tipp forwards are probably making the runs but by the time the ball comes in the defender is on top of him!

The options for the defenders were limited, some of that is due to Limerick, they seemed to have an extra man at times, hunting in pairs and sometimes there were 3 putting in the tackle..

Have Tipp anyone else to bring on? I'll not be backing them this Sunday (probably win now!)

How Hickey as you said AZ stayed on for as long as he did was a mystery, still a very good hurler, probably best on the halfback line

The Cork and Clare game seemed to be played at a higher tempo IMO, so it'll be a interesting game

Tipp have a relatively deep panel on paper, but it's not worth a shite if lads aren't playing. I'm not sure if Cathal Barrett is available, but if he is, I'd probably go something like

              Hogan

Flynn      Kennedy      Barrett

Heffernan B. Maher    P. Maher

         R. Maher    Billy McCarthy

Dan McCormack Bonnar Maher  Noel McGrath

John McGrath    Jason Forde    Seamie Callanan


You'd have Michael Breen as an option for Midfield/Half forward, Bubbles O'Dwyer for the full forward line, Sean Curran for half forward, Niall O'Meara for full forward line, James Barry for the backs.
Callanan hardly has a full game in him yet though? Didn't do a whole lot when he came in on Sunday though the momentum was with Limerick by that stage.

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Re: Hurling championship 2018
« Reply #65 on: May 22, 2018, 02:19:50 PM »
He may not, but Bubbles did SFA. You could have a Niall O'Meara in there as a lively ball winner instead. Not sure if Niall is back fit or not yet. He's had a horrible year with injuries.

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« Reply #66 on: May 23, 2018, 10:16:18 AM »
Can someone explain simply to workings of the championship format? If a provincial winner goes straight in to All Ireland semi final, where does runner-up go and who do they play? Why could they not have left it as it was the money grabbing hures have torn the ass out of the whole thing.

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« Reply #67 on: May 23, 2018, 10:18:57 AM »
Can someone explain simply to workings of the championship format? If a provincial winner goes straight in to All Ireland semi final, where does runner-up go and who do they play? Why could they not have left it as it was the money grabbing hures have torn the ass out of the whole thing.

You have answered your own question... money grabbing 'hures'

And club hurling loses out
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« Reply #68 on: May 23, 2018, 10:39:36 AM »
It has turned the whole thing into a damp squib

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« Reply #69 on: May 23, 2018, 11:33:21 AM »
It has turned the whole thing into a damp squib

I think the early games have been cagey, bursts of intensity but its not an all out knockout style of hurling, even though, before this format you had the backdoor, the Munster games were played at a higher level than what we have seen at the weekend, that will change come the buisness end, I hope
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« Reply #70 on: May 23, 2018, 12:19:11 PM »
It has turned the whole thing into a damp squib

I think the early games have been cagey, bursts of intensity but its not an all out knockout style of hurling, even though, before this format you had the backdoor, the Munster games were played at a higher level than what we have seen at the weekend, that will change come the buisness end, I hope

Is a pity to see the Munster semi-finals go but that's it

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« Reply #71 on: May 23, 2018, 03:06:08 PM »
It has turned the whole thing into a damp squib

I think the early games have been cagey, bursts of intensity but its not an all out knockout style of hurling, even though, before this format you had the backdoor, the Munster games were played at a higher level than what we have seen at the weekend, that will change come the buisness end, I hope

Is a pity to see the Munster semi-finals go but that's it

Not sure the Clare/Cork game was cagey at all, I thought they both give it their all but being the first round were a bit rusty. If Clare had of bagged one of those goal chances they mangled in the first half then the game would have been elevated a bit.

All is not lost yet as it'll become die dog or shíte the license if the likes of Tipp or Clare are two games to the bad already. If both win at the weekend then it becomes cagey again.

The third, fourth and fifth round games will be all or nothing for someone, but if someone is already through, do they give the panel a run out!!!!!!!

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« Reply #72 on: May 24, 2018, 10:06:42 AM »
Can someone explain simply to workings of the championship format? If a provincial winner goes straight in to All Ireland semi final, where does runner-up go and who do they play? Why could they not have left it as it was the money grabbing hures have torn the ass out of the whole thing.

You have answered your own question... money grabbing 'hures'

And club hurling loses out
The felt they had to respond to the football extravaganza that is the Super 8.

There will be 8 teams left after the leagues run off- 2 Joe MCDonagh, 3 Leinster and 3 Munster
The provincial champions go to the semi final
#2 in each province go to the quarter final
#3 in each province play one of the Joe McDonagh teams for a place in the qf.
I think it is a decent system
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Re: Hurling championship 2018
« Reply #73 on: May 24, 2018, 01:11:07 PM »
Alan Cadogan probably out for the rest of the season
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« Reply #74 on: May 25, 2018, 02:38:51 PM »
Can someone explain simply to workings of the championship format? If a provincial winner goes straight in to All Ireland semi final, where does runner-up go and who do they play? Why could they not have left it as it was the money grabbing hures have torn the ass out of the whole thing.

You have answered your own question... money grabbing 'hures'

And club hurling loses out
The felt they had to respond to the football extravaganza that is the Super 8.

There will be 8 teams left after the leagues run off- 2 Joe MCDonagh, 3 Leinster and 3 Munster
The provincial champions go to the semi final
#2 in each province go to the quarter final
#3 in each province play one of the Joe McDonagh teams for a place in the qf.
I think it is a decent system

drawn out for as long as possible with no edge until teams are at risk of elimination