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And he then took a (taxpayer funded) legal action against the government to avoid deportation

Not your taxes though.

Pretty common right wing trope there

Doesn't make it any less true

I seriously don't know what your question is

Are you saying that people (legal Irish Residents) of low moral character (with criminal convictions) shouldn't be allowed (on principal) to lead protests or are you saying that people (legal Irish citizens) of low moral character (with criminal convictions) should be legally prohibited from leading protests?

In some jurisdictions  you can be prohibited by a court of law from associating with "known criminals" as part of a sentencing agreement. If that, or similar processes are in place in Ireland, then I would expect and demand that the Gardai fully enforce it

It's not really that complicated

Enforce existing laws

Deport people whose claims are denied

Rigorous background checks on new arrivals

Set Welfare benefits in line with European averages (not double)

Can you explain to me how you do "rigorous background checks" on someone fleeing a warzone. Do you send a form to their local police station?

Also, do you think their should be rigourous checks on all sides. Would there be anything to be said for some checks on these far right goons? I mean if they were involved in local sports, foroige, community games etc then they'd already have been Garda vetted, but we know none of them do anything in their community. I'm all for rigorous checks on them so we can see who has criminal records, beats their wife and sells drugs etc. I'm sure you'd agree you wouldn't want those type of people heading up your racist protests

Great

So we're in agreement then. More rigorous checks on incoming applicants are a good thing.

So we don't end up with a shambolic situation like the one highlighted last week where a guy (convicted sex offender) denied asylum in 3 separate countries can get in having destroyed a fake Swedish passport

And he then took a (taxpayer funded) legal action against the government to avoid deportation

I asked you a question,  you afraid to answer it

Your "question" makes absolutely no sense and is actually irrelevant as to whether rigorous background checks should be carried out on people seeking international protection (some of whom have no id)

So you're in agreement with me on these rigorous checks......thats fantastic!

If you want to start a separate thread about "legal Irish residents" who have criminal convictions, and what activities, they should and shouldnt be allowed to partake in go right ahead. There are laws already in place and I would think (and hope) they are being fully enforced.  If theyre not....then they should be

It's not really that complicated

Enforce existing laws

Deport people whose claims are denied

Rigorous background checks on new arrivals

Set Welfare benefits in line with European averages (not double)

Can you explain to me how you do "rigorous background checks" on someone fleeing a warzone. Do you send a form to their local police station?

Also, do you think their should be rigourous checks on all sides. Would there be anything to be said for some checks on these far right goons? I mean if they were involved in local sports, foroige, community games etc then they'd already have been Garda vetted, but we know none of them do anything in their community. I'm all for rigorous checks on them so we can see who has criminal records, beats their wife and sells drugs etc. I'm sure you'd agree you wouldn't want those type of people heading up your racist protests

Great

So we're in agreement then. More rigorous checks on incoming applicants are a good thing.

So we don't end up with a shambolic situation like the one highlighted last week where a guy (convicted sex offender) denied asylum in 3 separate countries can get in having destroyed a fake Swedish passport

And he then took a (taxpayer funded) legal action against the government to avoid deportation

It's not really that complicated

Enforce existing laws

Deport people whose claims are denied

Rigorous background checks on new arrivals

Set Welfare benefits in line with European averages (not double)

Continually letting people into the country when there's nowhere to put them? You couldn't make it up.

so blame the govt... not 'foreigners' and don't burn down hotels/accommodation!!

International Law is above and beyond teeny extremist minds.

Isn't that the main issue that came out of McNamara's dismantling of Helen McEntee-were not enforcing the laws that are already on the books

what laws arent being enforced again?

https://www.newstalk.com/news/state-is-failing-to-enforce-its-own-immigration-rules-michael-mcnamara-td-1634712

Michael McNamara is a qualified barrister

i see they are starting prosecutions. Youll be happy about that

They are perceived by a wide swath of the population as not enforcing the law

This is giving oxygen to the dreaded "far right".

They only have themselves to blame-the laws are there-enforce them

According to the Irish Independent they are getting dogs abuse on the doorsteps

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/fine-gael-members-raise-security-concerns-over-harassment-while-canvassing/a774403242.html

what laws arent being enforced again?

https://www.newstalk.com/news/state-is-failing-to-enforce-its-own-immigration-rules-michael-mcnamara-td-1634712

Michael McNamara is a qualified barrister

Got a leaflet in the Post this morning from one of the Fash EU Candidates . Is this all they are doing , are they actually going door to door ?

Same. No too chicken shit to go door to door and too easy for voters to figure out in 10 seconds that you're dealing with a total moron. Placed my leaflets in the recycle bin where they belong.

Speaking to total morons, what did you think of Helen McEntees performance last week when she was being grilled by McNamara?

The (non) answers given to very basic and simple questions regarding the enforcement of existing laws actually leads to people supporting these clown candidates who are runnjng

McEntee is out of her depth, I wont defend her. However, that doesn't mean a bunch of racist knuckle draggers are right in anything they say

They (the knuckle drafters) are 100% right when they say that current laws are not being enforced which is leading to a defacto open borders policy

They are also correct in saying that many people are not being adequately "vetted"

https://gript.ie/revealed-asylum-seekers-fingerprints-not-checked-against-criminal-databases/

https://www.newstalk.com/news/these-people-are-fingerprinted-biggest-myths-about-asylum-seekers-1631836

Read the two articles and see if you can figure out who's telling the truth

Gript?? Sure you might as well throw up a link to mein kampf when your at it. You've no idea about this country, not a clue.

If McEnter and Varadkar enforced the laws already on the books this would be a non issue

They only have themselves to blame

What I've learned over the years is that it doesn't matter if something is true or not. What matters is whether people believe something to be true

With the collapse in people's confidence in traditional media outlets sources like Gript play a very important role in keeping them honest
 

Got a leaflet in the Post this morning from one of the Fash EU Candidates . Is this all they are doing , are they actually going door to door ?

Same. No too chicken shit to go door to door and too easy for voters to figure out in 10 seconds that you're dealing with a total moron. Placed my leaflets in the recycle bin where they belong.

Speaking to total morons, what did you think of Helen McEntees performance last week when she was being grilled by McNamara?

The (non) answers given to very basic and simple questions regarding the enforcement of existing laws actually leads to people supporting these clown candidates who are runnjng

McEntee is out of her depth, I wont defend her. However, that doesn't mean a bunch of racist knuckle draggers are right in anything they say

They (the knuckle drafters) are 100% right when they say that current laws are not being enforced which is leading to a defacto open borders policy

They are also correct in saying that many people are not being adequately "vetted"

https://gript.ie/revealed-asylum-seekers-fingerprints-not-checked-against-criminal-databases/

https://www.newstalk.com/news/these-people-are-fingerprinted-biggest-myths-about-asylum-seekers-1631836

Read the two articles and see if you can figure out who's telling the truth

Got a leaflet in the Post this morning from one of the Fash EU Candidates . Is this all they are doing , are they actually going door to door ?

Same. No too chicken shit to go door to door and too easy for voters to figure out in 10 seconds that you're dealing with a total moron. Placed my leaflets in the recycle bin where they belong.

Speaking to total morons, what did you think of Helen McEntees performance last week when she was being grilled by McNamara?

The (non) answers given to very basic and simple questions regarding the enforcement of existing laws actually leads to people supporting these clown candidates who are runnjng

How are ye enjoying the open borders boys and girls

Did you read about the court case where the Somali sexually assaulted the girl in a pub toilet in Dubli

He is confirmed sex offender in the UK, who was denied asylum in 3 other EU countries-then got a fake Swedish passport which he destroyed upon his entry to Ireland and has been here ever since

https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/man-who-followed-woman-to-toilets-and-tried-to-rape-her-jailed-for-predatory-actions/a1560765323.html




 

Antifa are as big a shower of scumbags as the people they're protesting

This says a lot, fascist yanks with nothing to do with Ireland trying to push their right wing agenda onto us

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/more-than-half-of-social-media-posts-about-wicklow-anti-asylum-protest-were-from-us-analysis-finds/a1068312180.html

You realize Twitter isn't real life?

A couple of right wing US political commentators (with millions of followers) highlight the fact Ireland doesn't enforce its own immigration laws.

This then gets retweeted/shared/liked by a fraction of a fraction of 1% of the people who saw it.

And you use this "datapoint" to deligitimize peoples valid concerns (which BTW were shared by a sitting FF TD and European candidate yesterday)

And his comments are up in the FF website, so obviously the party (who are in Government) agree with his views to some extent

https://www.fiannafail.ie/news/cowen-demands-enforcement-of-immigration-laws?hs_amp=true

Are Fianna Fail far right?

Did it hurt you that one, you show up as a yank in the assessment above

Not in the least

Im an Irish Citizen so I'm just as entitled to my opinion as you are

This says a lot, fascist yanks with nothing to do with Ireland trying to push their right wing agenda onto us

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/more-than-half-of-social-media-posts-about-wicklow-anti-asylum-protest-were-from-us-analysis-finds/a1068312180.html

You realize Twitter isn't real life?

A couple of right wing US political commentators (with millions of followers) highlight the fact Ireland doesn't enforce its own immigration laws.

This then gets retweeted/shared/liked by a fraction of a fraction of 1% of the people who saw it.

And you use this "datapoint" to deligitimize peoples valid concerns (which BTW were shared by a sitting FF TD and European candidate yesterday)

And his comments are up in the FF website, so obviously the party (who are in Government) agree with his views to some extent

https://www.fiannafail.ie/news/cowen-demands-enforcement-of-immigration-laws?hs_amp=true

Are Fianna Fail far right?