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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Senior football cha...

Last post by yellowcard - Today at 10:00:19 AM

The aristocrats of Ulster haven't a player that can kick a ball 40 metres , that was brutal stuff yesterday. Down are simply a reincarnation of Kilcoo handpassing and soloing the ball up the pitch. It was a dreadful game to watch and summed up all of the ills of Gaelic football. The referee was just as bad and Armagh weren't much better.

The one positive from an Armagh point of view was the substitutions who won us the match. Oisin O'Neill, Duffy and Nugent kicked the winning scores and hopefully there will be changes the next game because otherwise that type of performance or tactical approach will not be good enough.

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Footba...

Last post by ardtole - Today at 09:53:02 AM

I've been going to Down matches since the 80s and yesterday was nothing short of dreadful.

We were 2 points up with approx 15 mins to go v Armagh in an Ulster semi final and my main concern was, I hope this doesn't go to extra time.

If playing like that is what it takes to be competitive, it's not a price worth paying as far as I'm concerned, and judging by the size of the crowd, I'm not alone. Would there have been 2000 Down supporters in Clones yesterday?

I recognise that plenty will take positives from yesterday's performance and to a degree, I can see where they are coming from. Laverty done nothing wrong yesterday, he broke no rules as such but mother of God, the powers that be must take action sooner rather than later because as a spectacle that game yesterday is unacceptable.

And I don't think I'm looking through rose tinted glasses about games from previous era's, plenty of them were poor too. I know Jarlath Burns has put together an impressive looking task force to deal with the predicament football finds itself in, and I'm sure they can use yesterday's game as an indicator of what drastic measures are needed to cure our game.

Down are not alone either, a lot of counties employ similar tactics, at times we have played excellently under Laverty, Cavan away last year in the Tailtain cup was a great performance. But  I really do hope there are rule changes made to avoid what happened yesterday repeated. And even if we won yesterday, I'm sure I would be saying the same thing.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Senior football cha...

Last post by bennydorano - Today at 09:50:03 AM

Looking forward to today's game but I think it could he a damp squib too. If Tyrone don't adapt their gameplan significantly I can only see a Donegal win,  so I think they will adapt.I'd prefer Armagh to play Tyrone in a classico Ulster Final tbh, not that I'd be overly confident of victory but mainly because McGeeney would grossly overthink a final v Jim Mcguinness.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Senior football cha...

Last post by Nanderson - Today at 09:42:01 AM

That last free, he didn't blow for the 'first' foul, blew for the obvious round the neck free, spoke to linesman, free then given for first free (which you can't do) and thankfully he missed

What is it there that the ref can't do?

Would blowing for the second foul not constitute a break in play during which the linesman could alert the ref to the first foul?

Once the referee has given a decision and has sounded his whistle to restart play, he shall not alter that decision.

Once he's blown and made a decision (rightly or wrongly) he can't change it

Different if he blows for a free and waves his hand in one direction when it should have been the other, that's common enough in games but everyone knows.

This was different. He didn't blow for the Johnston trip, play went on and the Down player grab the Armagh lad around the neck then he blew.

I thought the first was a free in fairness so the right thing happened in the end.

He'll be pulled on a few things, but the helter skelter of these games will provide mistakes all round

Not trying to be argumentative, BUT. Being pedantic really.

Is the "not blowing" of the whistle not a decision in itself, which he should not change?

While I did find the refereeing exasperating
The game it self was even more so and I suspect it would have been a nightmare to officiate.

In this instance he blew only for the second foul, after sounding his whistle and giving his decision, he then was confronted by the linesman and changed it.

There is nothing in the rules to say he can do that

Would he only be allowed to overturn a foul for foul play?

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Footba...

Last post by thewobbler - Today at 09:39:50 AM

The football is not easy on the eye, but hats off to Conor and the players yesterday.

More talented Down teams than that have got obliterated in championship football throughout my lifetime.

Down were in with a real sniff for all 70 mins. Should we unearth a gem or two of a forward to put into that mix, we can finally move forward again.

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Hurling

Last post by imtommygunn - Today at 09:34:57 AM

That is a fantastic result. The Dublin game will be very interesting now.

On another note how many goals did Joe McLaughlin score against ballygalget? I saw on cushendall twitter some updates and it just seemed to be Joe McLaughlin goal repeatedly.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Senior football cha...

Last post by Milltown Row2 - Today at 09:23:02 AM

That last free, he didn't blow for the 'first' foul, blew for the obvious round the neck free, spoke to linesman, free then given for first free (which you can't do) and thankfully he missed

What is it there that the ref can't do?

Would blowing for the second foul not constitute a break in play during which the linesman could alert the ref to the first foul?

Once the referee has given a decision and has sounded his whistle to restart play, he shall not alter that decision.

Once he's blown and made a decision (rightly or wrongly) he can't change it

Different if he blows for a free and waves his hand in one direction when it should have been the other, that's common enough in games but everyone knows.

This was different. He didn't blow for the Johnston trip, play went on and the Down player grab the Armagh lad around the neck then he blew.

I thought the first was a free in fairness so the right thing happened in the end.

He'll be pulled on a few things, but the helter skelter of these games will provide mistakes all round

Not trying to be argumentative, BUT. Being pedantic really.

Is the "not blowing" of the whistle not a decision in itself, which he should not change?

While I did find the refereeing exasperating
The game it self was even more so and I suspect it would have been a nightmare to officiate.

In this instance he blew only for the second foul, after sounding his whistle and giving his decision, he then was confronted by the linesman and changed it.

There is nothing in the rules to say he can do that

#8

General discussion / Re: Have many countries have G...

Last post by Tony Baloney - Today at 09:07:51 AM

Flew to Oz once, delayed honeymoon. Pilot announced "this is an emergency descent" when we were over the Indian
Ocean. We were fine, but for a few mins I thought it would end up differently.

Thanks for that Rois 

#9

Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Footba...

Last post by Nanderson - Today at 09:04:57 AM

Some effort put into that game yesterday, couldn't fault that! Wasn't easy to watch at times, but fully understand why they did it. Any word on Barry? Didn't look good him coming off.

Few weeks off and then hopefully give the Tailteann cup another rattle, I'm sure there will be a few more players brought into the squad aswell for that, likes of Ruairi O'Hare, John McGovern.

Is Ruairi about the panel? Desperatley need a big man who can win his own ball and hit a score

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Footba...

Last post by Ed Hardy - Today at 09:03:08 AM

Some effort put into that game yesterday, couldn't fault that! Wasn't easy to watch at times, but fully understand why they did it. Any word on Barry? Didn't look good him coming off.

Few weeks off and then hopefully give the Tailteann cup another rattle, I'm sure there will be a few more players brought into the squad aswell for that, likes of Ruairi O'Hare, John McGovern.