Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

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PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: burdizzo on October 31, 2023, 09:37:04 PMThe Egyptians don't want them, nor do the Jordanians. Nor does any other Arab state, for that matter. Most likely, Israel will connive to have them shipped to Europe and Canada.

hence why the Egyptians are been offered billions to take the palestinans.

The Palestinians don't want another nakba and to be ethically cleanse from their homeland again. They don't want to be in Egypt or Jordan or Syria or Lebanon, the refugees there are already denied their right of return.

Israel doesn't adhere to International law or UN resolutions and the Uk/Eu/UK enables the israelis. Lip service to the two state solution is all but ended. A Palestine state on the borders of 1967 with a bi lateral negotiated settlement on the right of return and other outstanding issues is the only chance of peace. That should be forced upon the Israelis via sanctions (for what they are worth) and boycott.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 31, 2023, 09:58:27 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 31, 2023, 09:37:04 PMThe Egyptians don't want them, nor do the Jordanians. Nor does any other Arab state, for that matter. Most likely, Israel will connive to have them shipped to Europe and Canada.

hence why the Egyptians are been offered billions to take the palestinans.

The Palestinians don't want another nakba and to be ethically cleanse from their homeland again. They don't want to be in Egypt or Jordan or Syria or Lebanon, the refugees there are already denied their right of return.

Israel doesn't adhere to International law or UN resolutions and the Uk/Eu/UK enables the israelis. Lip service to the two state solution is all but ended. A Palestine state on the borders of 1967 with a bi lateral negotiated settlement on the right of return and other outstanding issues is the only chance of peace. That should be forced upon the Israelis via sanctions (for what they are worth) and boycott.

Isreal is an alliance of the west in the Middle East, there's no way the western leaders will allow that to change...

The fundamentalist Muslims (wherever they are) what nothing to do with the west, and would wipe out Christianity/Jews given half the chance. The Zionist want to wipe out Palestine and the west see it as the lesser of two evils

The Middle East was always going to be the next world war.

Can't see this ending up any other way in the long term as being the beginning of a new world war of sorts

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2023, 10:12:09 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 31, 2023, 09:58:27 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 31, 2023, 09:37:04 PMThe Egyptians don't want them, nor do the Jordanians. Nor does any other Arab state, for that matter. Most likely, Israel will connive to have them shipped to Europe and Canada.

hence why the Egyptians are been offered billions to take the palestinans.

The Palestinians don't want another nakba and to be ethically cleanse from their homeland again. They don't want to be in Egypt or Jordan or Syria or Lebanon, the refugees there are already denied their right of return.

Israel doesn't adhere to International law or UN resolutions and the Uk/Eu/UK enables the israelis. Lip service to the two state solution is all but ended. A Palestine state on the borders of 1967 with a bi lateral negotiated settlement on the right of return and other outstanding issues is the only chance of peace. That should be forced upon the Israelis via sanctions (for what they are worth) and boycott.

Isreal is an alliance of the west in the Middle East, there's no way the western leaders will allow that to change...

The fundamentalist Muslims (wherever they are) what nothing to do with the west, and would wipe out Christianity/Jews given half the chance. The Zionist want to wipe out Palestine and the west see it as the lesser of two evils

The Middle East was always going to be the next world war.

Can't see this ending up any other way in the long term as being the beginning of a new world war of sorts



the Muslims and Christians live side by side in occupied Palestine peacefully.  The Zionists including children spit (literally) on the Palestinan christians.

so what you said is bullshit, ISIS and their ilk are despised in Gaza/Palestine. I havent read too much into it but Israel have some interesting alliances with ISIS. Hamas amended their charter and recogonsed Israel In 17.

the ARAB league in 88 recognoised Israel, there has/had been normalised relations with most Middle Eastern countries, there is no chance of Israel being wiped out, its bullshit Israeli hasbara, a distraction for fools.

However, day by day, week by week, etc. The israelis are actually wiping out the Palestinians, actually ethically cleansing and actually committing genocide.... but but Muslim fundamentalists!!!

Milltown Row2

Not sure if you can read, but I wrote the fundamentalist Muslims want to wipe out Christianity and the jews and the zionist want to wipe out Palestine like they have done for 75 years.

Not sure why you have tried to change what I said

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Franko

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2023, 10:12:09 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 31, 2023, 09:58:27 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 31, 2023, 09:37:04 PMThe Egyptians don't want them, nor do the Jordanians. Nor does any other Arab state, for that matter. Most likely, Israel will connive to have them shipped to Europe and Canada.

hence why the Egyptians are been offered billions to take the palestinans.

The Palestinians don't want another nakba and to be ethically cleanse from their homeland again. They don't want to be in Egypt or Jordan or Syria or Lebanon, the refugees there are already denied their right of return.

Israel doesn't adhere to International law or UN resolutions and the Uk/Eu/UK enables the israelis. Lip service to the two state solution is all but ended. A Palestine state on the borders of 1967 with a bi lateral negotiated settlement on the right of return and other outstanding issues is the only chance of peace. That should be forced upon the Israelis via sanctions (for what they are worth) and boycott.

Isreal is an alliance of the west in the Middle East, there's no way the western leaders will allow that to change...

The fundamentalist Muslims (wherever they are) what nothing to do with the west, and would wipe out Christianity/Jews given half the chance. The Zionist want to wipe out Palestine and the west see it as the lesser of two evils

The Middle East was always going to be the next world war.

Can't see this ending up any other way in the long term as being the beginning of a new world war of sorts



In the context of Palestine, this is abject nonsense, regurgitated from some English tabloid.

PadraicHenryPearse

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Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2023, 10:54:41 PMNot sure if you can read, but I wrote the fundamentalist Muslims want to wipe out Christianity and the jews and the zionist want to wipe out Palestine like they have done for 75 years.

Not sure why you have tried to change what I said



I've no idea what fundamentalist Muslims have to do with the conversation then about israel/palestine. i assumed it was following on from earlier comments where Hamas were referred to as fundamentalist psychopaths.

apologises, but I think its easy to see why someone would be confused by those comments, I see another poster took my interpretation also.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Franko on October 31, 2023, 10:56:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2023, 10:12:09 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 31, 2023, 09:58:27 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 31, 2023, 09:37:04 PMThe Egyptians don't want them, nor do the Jordanians. Nor does any other Arab state, for that matter. Most likely, Israel will connive to have them shipped to Europe and Canada.

hence why the Egyptians are been offered billions to take the palestinans.

The Palestinians don't want another nakba and to be ethically cleanse from their homeland again. They don't want to be in Egypt or Jordan or Syria or Lebanon, the refugees there are already denied their right of return.

Israel doesn't adhere to International law or UN resolutions and the Uk/Eu/UK enables the israelis. Lip service to the two state solution is all but ended. A Palestine state on the borders of 1967 with a bi lateral negotiated settlement on the right of return and other outstanding issues is the only chance of peace. That should be forced upon the Israelis via sanctions (for what they are worth) and boycott.

Isreal is an alliance of the west in the Middle East, there's no way the western leaders will allow that to change...

The fundamentalist Muslims (wherever they are) what nothing to do with the west, and would wipe out Christianity/Jews given half the chance. The Zionist want to wipe out Palestine and the west see it as the lesser of two evils

The Middle East was always going to be the next world war.

Can't see this ending up any other way in the long term as being the beginning of a new world war of sorts



In the context of Palestine, this is abject nonsense, regurgitated from some English tabloid.

Haven't bought a 'tabloid' in over 30 years but sure knock yourself out!

Have watched plenty of doc's over the years by people that live there, in the middle east, to make my own judgement, watched one recently, Of fathers and sons and there was another one based on the last  war in 2014 in Gaza, horrific stuff.

The bit you highlighted is linked to how/who the likes of Hamas get their weapons, they are getting them from states that harbour the likes of ISIS and other similar groupings plus Iran, who are fundamentalists and would happily wipe out the west.

Israel of course get their weapons from the US and other EU states and would happily wipe out Muslims in the West Bank Lebanon and Gaza

I personally feel murdering people will only create more murders, I've yet to be convinced that it actually gets results.

If the UN isn't given some control over whats happening, then things will get, globally, a hell of a lot worse
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Franko

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2023, 11:31:12 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 31, 2023, 10:56:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2023, 10:12:09 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 31, 2023, 09:58:27 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 31, 2023, 09:37:04 PMThe Egyptians don't want them, nor do the Jordanians. Nor does any other Arab state, for that matter. Most likely, Israel will connive to have them shipped to Europe and Canada.

hence why the Egyptians are been offered billions to take the palestinans.

The Palestinians don't want another nakba and to be ethically cleanse from their homeland again. They don't want to be in Egypt or Jordan or Syria or Lebanon, the refugees there are already denied their right of return.

Israel doesn't adhere to International law or UN resolutions and the Uk/Eu/UK enables the israelis. Lip service to the two state solution is all but ended. A Palestine state on the borders of 1967 with a bi lateral negotiated settlement on the right of return and other outstanding issues is the only chance of peace. That should be forced upon the Israelis via sanctions (for what they are worth) and boycott.

Isreal is an alliance of the west in the Middle East, there's no way the western leaders will allow that to change...

The fundamentalist Muslims (wherever they are) what nothing to do with the west, and would wipe out Christianity/Jews given half the chance. The Zionist want to wipe out Palestine and the west see it as the lesser of two evils

The Middle East was always going to be the next world war.

Can't see this ending up any other way in the long term as being the beginning of a new world war of sorts



In the context of Palestine, this is abject nonsense, regurgitated from some English tabloid.

Haven't bought a 'tabloid' in over 30 years but sure knock yourself out!

Have watched plenty of doc's over the years by people that live there, in the middle east, to make my own judgement, watched one recently, Of fathers and sons and there was another one based on the last  war in 2014 in Gaza, horrific stuff.

The bit you highlighted is linked to how/who the likes of Hamas get their weapons, they are getting them from states that harbour the likes of ISIS and other similar groupings plus Iran, who are fundamentalists and would happily wipe out the west.

Israel of course get their weapons from the US and other EU states and would happily wipe out Muslims in the West Bank Lebanon and Gaza

I personally feel murdering people will only create more murders, I've yet to be convinced that it actually gets results.

If the UN isn't given some control over whats happening, then things will get, globally, a hell of a lot worse

Ah right sorry I didn't know you were just talking about where they get the guns n stuff  ::)

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2023, 11:31:12 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 31, 2023, 10:56:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2023, 10:12:09 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 31, 2023, 09:58:27 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 31, 2023, 09:37:04 PMThe Egyptians don't want them, nor do the Jordanians. Nor does any other Arab state, for that matter. Most likely, Israel will connive to have them shipped to Europe and Canada.

hence why the Egyptians are been offered billions to take the palestinans.

The Palestinians don't want another nakba and to be ethically cleanse from their homeland again. They don't want to be in Egypt or Jordan or Syria or Lebanon, the refugees there are already denied their right of return.

Israel doesn't adhere to International law or UN resolutions and the Uk/Eu/UK enables the israelis. Lip service to the two state solution is all but ended. A Palestine state on the borders of 1967 with a bi lateral negotiated settlement on the right of return and other outstanding issues is the only chance of peace. That should be forced upon the Israelis via sanctions (for what they are worth) and boycott.

Isreal is an alliance of the west in the Middle East, there's no way the western leaders will allow that to change...

The fundamentalist Muslims (wherever they are) what nothing to do with the west, and would wipe out Christianity/Jews given half the chance. The Zionist want to wipe out Palestine and the west see it as the lesser of two evils

The Middle East was always going to be the next world war.

Can't see this ending up any other way in the long term as being the beginning of a new world war of sorts



In the context of Palestine, this is abject nonsense, regurgitated from some English tabloid.

Haven't bought a 'tabloid' in over 30 years but sure knock yourself out!

Have watched plenty of doc's over the years by people that live there, in the middle east, to make my own judgement, watched one recently, Of fathers and sons and there was another one based on the last  war in 2014 in Gaza, horrific stuff.

The bit you highlighted is linked to how/who the likes of Hamas get their weapons, they are getting them from states that harbour the likes of ISIS and other similar groupings plus Iran, who are fundamentalists and would happily wipe out the west.

Israel of course get their weapons from the US and other EU states and would happily wipe out Muslims in the West Bank Lebanon and Gaza

I personally feel murdering people will only create more murders, I've yet to be convinced that it actually gets results.

If the UN isn't given some control over whats happening, then things will get, globally, a hell of a lot worse

I dont understand your point or the point you are trying to make, are you just stating that groups/countries get weapons from other groups/countries and they all do it for their own selfish purpose be they Muslim, Christian or Zionist fundamentalists or whatever suits their agenda.

I think it's a red herring in a struggle for self determination for the palestinians against their occupier.


Milltown Row2

Would you not question the reasons as to the likes of the US and Iran Syria supply the weapons and stoke or support these wars? Its not to save lives in that region

Palestine has every right to defend itself, no problem with that, and you can only poke the bear so many times before it bites back, but the latest events have only lead to serious developments where the innocents are the losers here
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Franko

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2023, 12:25:23 AMWould you not question the reasons as to the likes of the US and Iran Syria supply the weapons and stoke or support these wars? Its not to save lives in that region

Palestine has every right to defend itself, no problem with that, and you can only poke the bear so many times before it bites back, but the latest events have only lead to serious developments where the innocents are the losers here

In other news

The sun is yellow

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Franko on November 01, 2023, 12:55:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2023, 12:25:23 AMWould you not question the reasons as to the likes of the US and Iran Syria supply the weapons and stoke or support these wars? Its not to save lives in that region

Palestine has every right to defend itself, no problem with that, and you can only poke the bear so many times before it bites back, but the latest events have only lead to serious developments where the innocents are the losers here

In other news

The sun is yellow

Well that's a better response than trying to shoehorn in the hospital attack to every post
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

seafoid

Quote from: burdizzo on October 31, 2023, 09:37:04 PMThe Egyptians don't want them, nor do the Jordanians. Nor does any other Arab state, for that matter. Most likely, Israel will connive to have them shipped to Europe and Canada.
If Israel attempts to ethnically cleanse the Palestinans AGAIN the whole Middle East will attack it simultaneously. What is happening right now is genocide run by Israeli Jews. Imagine if Ireland imposed a famine on England. That is how fucked up Israel is .

seafoid

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2023, 08:29:12 AM
Quote from: Franko on November 01, 2023, 12:55:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2023, 12:25:23 AMWould you not question the reasons as to the likes of the US and Iran Syria supply the weapons and stoke or support these wars? Its not to save lives in that region

Palestine has every right to defend itself, no problem with that, and you can only poke the bear so many times before it bites back, but the latest events have only lead to serious developments where the innocents are the losers here

In other news

The sun is yellow

Well that's a better response than trying to shoehorn in the hospital attack to every post
Israel doesn't bomb hospitals. It's all Islamic jihad.

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2023, 12:25:23 AMWould you not question the reasons as to the likes of the US and Iran Syria supply the weapons and stoke or support these wars? Its not to save lives in that region

Palestine has every right to defend itself, no problem with that, and you can only poke the bear so many times before it bites back, but the latest events have only lead to serious developments where the innocents are the losers here

why they supply the weapons is pretty irrelevant in the grand scheme unless you are trying to link isis to Hamas because we all know once the west labels something 'evil' they can justify anything including genocide and ethic cleansing now, no red lines it appears.

innocent lives were being lost daily in Palestine, both in Gaza and the West Bank, nobody in the west cared or did anything, even most of the lip service had stopped. if it wasn't obvious how little they cared before the latest round of massacres it is surely clear to you know.