Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

[seafoid]

We're the Palestinians ever offered their own state by the Israelis?

The 1947 UN Partition plan for Palestine proposed an Arab State and a Jewish state https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine

The UN Partition Plan took half of Palestine to give to the Zionists.

there was a civil war in Ireland over letting the Brits keep 6 counties. Imagine the uproar if the UN handed over 16.

[Eamonnca1]

If the Brits were to "offer" the Americans a country that meant ceding half of their territory to immigrants, I'm quite sure they would reject it.

[burdizzo]

there was a civil war in Ireland over letting the Brits keep 6 counties. Imagine the uproar if the UN handed over 16.

Eh? When was this?!!

[marty34]

The UN Secretary General has grown a big, bold set of balls and come out and said out loud what we all know and think.

Will he last today in his job?

If he's forced to resign then you might as well bin the UN as an entity, they're only the play things for the US and it's allies.

I don't see anything controversial in his statement. He is rightly condemning both the Hamas attacks and the Israeli response.

Unlike many, he is not justifying either.

The grievances of the Palestinian people cannot justify the horrific attacks by Hamas.

Those horrendous attacks cannot justify the collective punishment of the Palestinian people.

He's 100% right. The MSM coverage of this is that it only started a few weeks ago.

Context is that this has all come from Israel's brutal occuptation over 50 years - land grabbing, murder and state terrorism etc.

The events of the past few weeks can't be looked at in isolation.

The people are well ahead of the politicians on this. Not for the first time.

[AustinPowers]

The UN Secretary General has grown a big, bold set of balls and come out and said out loud what we all know and think.

Will he last today in his job?

If he's forced to resign then you might as well bin the UN as an entity, they're only the play things for the US and it's allies.

I don't see anything controversial in his statement. He is rightly condemning both the Hamas attacks and the Israeli response.

Unlike many, he is not justifying either.

The grievances of the Palestinian people cannot justify the horrific attacks by Hamas.

Those horrendous attacks cannot justify the collective punishment of the Palestinian people.

He's 100% right. The MSM coverage of this is that it only started a few weeks ago.

Context is that this has all come from Israel's brutal occuptation over 50 years - land grabbing, murder and state terrorism etc.

The events of the past few weeks can't be looked at in isolation.

The people are well ahead of the politicians on this. Not for the first time.

Yes, but as  far as I recall , 1 million people  protested  in  London against the Iraq invasion . And hundreds  of thousands did so in other cities as well. The Brits (and others) still invaded Iraq.

[bennydorano]

We're the Palestinians ever offered their own state by the Israelis?

The 1947 UN Partition plan for Palestine proposed an Arab State and a Jewish state https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine

The UN Partition Plan took half of Palestine to give to the Zionists.

there was a civil war in Ireland over letting the Brits keep 6 counties. Imagine the uproar if the UN handed over 16.

If they'd tried to accommodate an Israeli state after WW1 when the UK & France were redrawing country boundaries all over the Middle East it might have had a better chance, but the political will wasn't there, it took the Holocaust to create the political will.

[AustinPowers]

We're the Palestinians ever offered their own state by the Israelis?

The 1947 UN Partition plan for Palestine proposed an Arab State and a Jewish state https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine

The UN Partition Plan took half of Palestine to give to the Zionists.

there was a civil war in Ireland over letting the Brits keep 6 counties. Imagine the uproar if the UN handed over 16.

If they'd tried to accommodate an Israeli state after WW1 when the UK & France were redrawing country boundaries all over the Middle East it might have had a better chance, but the political will wasn't there, it took the Holocaust to create the political will.

I can't help thinking  the new Jewish state  of israel was  left alone and  given a free reign because of the halocaust . 

In a similar way,   the unionist government  was given free reign to do what  it liked to Catholics after partition

[Armagh18]

We're the Palestinians ever offered their own state by the Israelis?

The 1947 UN Partition plan for Palestine proposed an Arab State and a Jewish state https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine

The UN Partition Plan took half of Palestine to give to the Zionists.

there was a civil war in Ireland over letting the Brits keep 6 counties. Imagine the uproar if the UN handed over 16.

If they'd tried to accommodate an Israeli state after WW1 when the UK & France were redrawing country boundaries all over the Middle East it might have had a better chance, but the political will wasn't there, it took the Holocaust to create the political will.

I can't help thinking  the new Jewish state  of israel was  left alone and  given a free reign because of the halocaust . 

In a similar way,   the unionist government  was given free reign to do what  it liked to Catholics after partition

Pretty much. Now look at Germany going out of their way to lick the Israelis boots.

[dec]

We're the Palestinians ever offered their own state by the Israelis?

The 1947 UN Partition plan for Palestine proposed an Arab State and a Jewish state https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine

The UN Partition Plan took half of Palestine to give to the Zionists.

there was a civil war in Ireland over letting the Brits keep 6 counties. Imagine the uproar if the UN handed over 16.

If they'd tried to accommodate an Israeli state after WW1 when the UK & France were redrawing country boundaries all over the Middle East it might have had a better chance, but the political will wasn't there, it took the Holocaust to create the political will.

I can't help thinking  the new Jewish state  of israel was  left alone and  given a free reign because of the halocaust . 

In a similar way,  the unionist government  was given free reign to do what  it liked to Catholics after partition

From the perspective of 2023 it looks like the Arabs turned down a very good deal, the Arab state proposed is much larger than anything they are likely to get now.

But from the perspective of 1947 the Arabs made up about 2/3 of the population and got about 1/3 of the land.

[tbrick18]

Just saw a post saying that Isreal targeted the home of the lead Al-Jazeera reporter in Gaza killing his wife, son and daughter.

[imtommygunn]

He reported on an explosion not knowing it was his family too 

[Armagh18]

He reported on an explosion not knowing it was his family too 

Jesus Christ. Poor man.

[maddog]

Caught a bit of that on Al Jazeera yesterday and think they said that the journalists were being asked to leave buildings where people were sheltering as they knew the Israelis were targetting Al Jazeera journalists and therefore putting others at risk.

[JoG2]

He reported on an explosion not knowing it was his family too 

Jesus Christ. Poor man.

They targeted the 'safe zones' that people had moved too according to the Guardian... Pure evil

[imtommygunn]

Been doing that since day one and then looking for the likes of the head of the UN to quit if there's any scrutiny