Northern Ireland The Centenary of OWC

[Applesisapples]

I wonder will anyone from the nationalist community be celebrating the foundation of the state in which they live? The state that discriminated against them for 50 years. The state that only reflects the culture and ethnicity of just over 50% of the population whilst denying the other 50% any recognition. The state that has allowed a loyalist banner become it's "national flag" and one that equates Irish culture language and sport with sectarianism. Personally for me no.

[armaghniac]

I wonder will anyone from the nationalist community be celebrating the foundation of the state in which they live? The state that discriminated against them for 50 years. The state that only reflects the culture and ethnicity of just over 50% of the population whilst denying the other 50% any recognition. The state that has allowed a loyalist banner become it's "national flag" and one that equates Irish culture language and sport with sectarianism. Personally for me no.

We should fly a black flag for 100 days.

[Milltown Row2]

No one from a nationalist or republican background will give it a second thought.

By the same token only our parents and grandparents have been truly discriminated against... Be interested in knowing have any posters been discriminated against through education and jobs?

Being picked on by the peelers and army was a given Unfortunately, and even more so if your family was 'involved'

Personally a flag has had no bearing on me to be annoyed about. There's plenty on either side

[Applesisapples]

No one from a nationalist or republican background will give it a second thought.

By the same token only our parents and grandparents have been truly discriminated against... Be interested in knowing have any posters been discriminated against through education and jobs?

Being picked on by the peelers and army was a given Unfortunately, and even more so if your family was 'involved'

Personally a flag has had no bearing on me to be annoyed about. There's plenty on either side

I am of that generation old enough to have been discriminated against. I won't go in to detail. But I was also fortunate in that my parents would have been relatively better off than our neighbours but still poor.

[marty34]

No one from a nationalist or republican background will give it a second thought.

By the same token only our parents and grandparents have been truly discriminated against... Be interested in knowing have any posters been discriminated against through education and jobs?

Being picked on by the peelers and army was a given Unfortunately, and even more so if your family was 'involved'

Personally a flag has had no bearing on me to be annoyed about. There's plenty on either side

Plenty will - most of them use the term 'northern ireland' ffs.

[Milltown Row2]

No one from a nationalist or republican background will give it a second thought.

By the same token only our parents and grandparents have been truly discriminated against... Be interested in knowing have any posters been discriminated against through education and jobs?

Being picked on by the peelers and army was a given Unfortunately, and even more so if your family was 'involved'

Personally a flag has had no bearing on me to be annoyed about. There's plenty on either side

Plenty will - most of them use the term 'northern ireland' ffs.

That's just a term and by saying it won't make you less a person, by the same token saying occupied 6 doesn't make you a better person..

[marty34]

No one from a nationalist or republican background will give it a second thought.

By the same token only our parents and grandparents have been truly discriminated against... Be interested in knowing have any posters been discriminated against through education and jobs?

Being picked on by the peelers and army was a given Unfortunately, and even more so if your family was 'involved'

Personally a flag has had no bearing on me to be annoyed about. There's plenty on either side

Plenty will - most of them use the term 'northern ireland' ffs.

That's just a term and by saying it won't make you less a person, by the same token saying occupied 6 doesn't make you a better person..

How the heck can you be a nationalist and use that term ffs?

[Rossfan]

What does it say on the Executive Ministers and MLAs payslips?
Do they get seals of office and if so what dies it say on them.
What are the MLAs members of?

Technically "NI" was established in 1920 along with the stillborn "Southern Ireland".
That "NI" ended in 1998 and a new "NI" was established by the "Northern Ireland Act 1998"

[johnnycool]

No one from a nationalist or republican background will give it a second thought.

By the same token only our parents and grandparents have been truly discriminated against... Be interested in knowing have any posters been discriminated against through education and jobs?

Being picked on by the peelers and army was a given Unfortunately, and even more so if your family was 'involved'

Personally a flag has had no bearing on me to be annoyed about. There's plenty on either side

I am of that generation old enough to have been discriminated against. I won't go in to detail. But I was also fortunate in that my parents would have been relatively better off than our neighbours but still poor.

Didn't even get an interview with NIE back in the day, much to the surprise of my careers teacher back in the day, my first name is a bit of a give away and the job would have been based in Dundonald.

Miss was my mercy

[Milltown Row2]

No one from a nationalist or republican background will give it a second thought.

By the same token only our parents and grandparents have been truly discriminated against... Be interested in knowing have any posters been discriminated against through education and jobs?

Being picked on by the peelers and army was a given Unfortunately, and even more so if your family was 'involved'

Personally a flag has had no bearing on me to be annoyed about. There's plenty on either side

Plenty will - most of them use the term 'northern ireland' ffs.

That's just a term and by saying it won't make you less a person, by the same token saying occupied 6 doesn't make you a better person..

How the heck can you be a nationalist and use that term ffs?

If you're the type to get bogged down on the term N.I then you're no better that the unionist who will only see things their way..

If you don't accept (rightly or wrongly) that we live alongside a different tradition (that unfortunately has had the means to discriminate against catholic's for well over 60 plus years) Then you are no different to the loyalist thug up the Shankill

I live in Ireland. I recognise as being Irish and enjoy my Irish culture. What part of Ireland I live in won't change anytime soon.

[Milltown Row2]

No one from a nationalist or republican background will give it a second thought.

By the same token only our parents and grandparents have been truly discriminated against... Be interested in knowing have any posters been discriminated against through education and jobs?

Being picked on by the peelers and army was a given Unfortunately, and even more so if your family was 'involved'

Personally a flag has had no bearing on me to be annoyed about. There's plenty on either side

I am of that generation old enough to have been discriminated against. I won't go in to detail. But I was also fortunate in that my parents would have been relatively better off than our neighbours but still poor.

Didn't even get an interview with NIE back in the day, much to the surprise of my careers teacher back in the day, my first name is a bit of a give away and the job would have been based in Dundonald.

Miss was my mercy

Neither did I or with BT, I did get one with Harlands and Shortts though..

You're a bit older than me though 

[johnnycool]

No one from a nationalist or republican background will give it a second thought.

By the same token only our parents and grandparents have been truly discriminated against... Be interested in knowing have any posters been discriminated against through education and jobs?

Being picked on by the peelers and army was a given Unfortunately, and even more so if your family was 'involved'

Personally a flag has had no bearing on me to be annoyed about. There's plenty on either side

I am of that generation old enough to have been discriminated against. I won't go in to detail. But I was also fortunate in that my parents would have been relatively better off than our neighbours but still poor.

Didn't even get an interview with NIE back in the day, much to the surprise of my careers teacher back in the day, my first name is a bit of a give away and the job would have been based in Dundonald.

Miss was my mercy

Neither did I or with BT, I did get one with Harlands and Shortts though..

You're a bit older than me though 

Your first name wouldn't stick out like a sore thumb in Dundonald though.

Your home address might though 

[6th sam]

No one from a nationalist or republican background will give it a second thought.

By the same token only our parents and grandparents have been truly discriminated against... Be interested in knowing have any posters been discriminated against through education and jobs?

Being picked on by the peelers and army was a given Unfortunately, and even more so if your family was 'involved'

Personally a flag has had no bearing on me to be annoyed about. There's plenty on either side

I am of that generation old enough to have been discriminated against. I won't go in to detail. But I was also fortunate in that my parents would have been relatively better off than our neighbours but still poor.

Didn't even get an interview with NIE back in the day, much to the surprise of my careers teacher back in the day, my first name is a bit of a give away and the job would have been based in Dundonald.

Miss was my mercy

Neither did I or with BT, I did get one with Harlands and Shortts though..

You're a bit older than me though 

Your first name wouldn't stick out like a sore thumb in Dundonald though.

Your home address might though 

Blatant sectarianism can be challenged under fair employment law, but quite often it's easier to avoid working in a lob sided workforce, thus allowing sectarian attitudes to continue to fester on both sides.

Though I feel partition was anti-democratic and sectarian, I will refer to NI on occasion for convenience as rightly or wrongly it is a recognised jurisdiction and we all have to use it on official documentation in referring to organisations such as Psni, hscni. In reality NI is a dead man walking, it can not continue in its current form as it has been an unmitigated disaster . It's disappointing to see the leader of NI already coat trailing re celebrating a state formed and steeped in sectarianism ,which many unionists are embarrassed about. If I were Arlene et al,  I'd be careful what I would wish for. Celebrating NI100 gives an opportunity for nationalists , republicans , egalitarians and even economists , to again expose the ignominious history of this state. NI got some leg up , when initially I think 80% of the GDP of the island was in Belfast. UK has heavily subsidised NI , resulting in unsustainable levels of public sector employment. Divisive Orange culture has been given an elevated status that embarrasses most unionists I know .
New constitutional arrangements on this island are inevitable, but it's essential that the Britishness of unionists is fostered , encouraged and promoted. Whatever the new constitutional arrangements are they must sufficiently champion the respective cultures, to aim
For buyin from
All communities. The failure of NI remains that it never championed Irish culture  and therefore never gained that Buyin. Going forward , "In your face" republicanism will only serve to antagonise a large unionist population on this island. It may sound cliched but let's use John Hume , RIP, as our template. Look at how he was respected by all, because he focussed on the normality of difference, and the importance of respecting that .
If Arlene, who Tbf had shown some positive moves lately, wants to put NI in the spotlight for NI100, let her fill her boots. Exposing NI to forensic scrutiny , will only go one way. Many had forgotten or were too young to experience pre-civil rights and the dirty war, increasing awareness will motivate nationalists , embarrass many unionists, and even Arlene and her cohorts can't believe there's much to celebrate .
It reminds me of that surreal patronising advert on TV during the troubles , when there was mayhem on the streets,  with the accompanying jingle "come on Northern Ireland, come on, there's a whole lot of work to be done " ....there'll be some job of work sugar-coating NI🤔

[Milltown Row2]

No one from a nationalist or republican background will give it a second thought.

By the same token only our parents and grandparents have been truly discriminated against... Be interested in knowing have any posters been discriminated against through education and jobs?

Being picked on by the peelers and army was a given Unfortunately, and even more so if your family was 'involved'

Personally a flag has had no bearing on me to be annoyed about. There's plenty on either side

I am of that generation old enough to have been discriminated against. I won't go in to detail. But I was also fortunate in that my parents would have been relatively better off than our neighbours but still poor.

Didn't even get an interview with NIE back in the day, much to the surprise of my careers teacher back in the day, my first name is a bit of a give away and the job would have been based in Dundonald.

Miss was my mercy

Neither did I or with BT, I did get one with Harlands and Shortts though..

You're a bit older than me though 

Your first name wouldn't stick out like a sore thumb in Dundonald though.

Your home address might though 

Theres a lad that started his apprenticeship in Harlands, has a Senior county Championship medal playing for Rossa, he's called Sean Murphy, can ya imagine lol

[BennyCake]

Unionists have to make a song and dance about Norn Iron's centenary. If they didn't, that would be admitting that Norn Iron was, and is, a failed state, and not worth celebrating. No Unionist worth the name would dare admit that. They have to peddle their "NI was a great idea" rhetoric.

Even the dogs on the street know that.