Homeless Crisis

[seafoid]

build houses
charge them a fair rent

there are hundreds of boarded up houses and apartments all over Dublin and other towns belonging to various councils
turn them around and give them to these families

Just give them away?

If they generate more value than the cost of giving the houses away it should be done

[Minder]

Why do people just think homelessness is just about a shortage of housing ?

[Rossfan]

The "new" homeless who are being put up in hotels etc are victims of a shortage of houses and attendant big rises in private rents.
Also the virtual elimination of Council House Building.
The "old" homeless - rough sleepers, people with psychiatric drug or drink problems is a more complicated situation.

If Politicians' kids or other well heeled people's kids were caught up in the "New" situation they'd soon take action.
Meanwhile all the Super Socialists who were protesting vigorously about  €3 or €4 a week charge for public water/sewerage
are very  quiet on this issue.
The €150m foregone would provideo 600 to 700 houses per annum.

[Captain Scarlet]

I think that is key Rossfan. There are two different groups in terms of rough sleepers and then the new homeless.

I get annoyed on Twitter with the anti-everything brigade who can be a bit dismissive of what they call the homeless industry with the likes of Simon and Focus. They don't seem to realise you probably need five people working to get one rough sleeper, manay of whom have serious issues, back on their feet.
They need managed shelter in many cases.

Then the others who are paying rent but are being priced out just need some form of security.

[Milltown Row2]

I think that is key Rossfan. There are two different groups in terms of rough sleepers and then the new homeless.

I get annoyed on Twitter with the anti-everything brigade who can be a bit dismissive of what they call the homeless industry with the likes of Simon and Focus. They don't seem to realise you probably need five people working to get one rough sleeper, manay of whom have serious issues, back on their feet.
They need managed shelter in many cases.

Then the others who are paying rent but are being priced out just need some form of security.

Why don't they move somewhere outside of the city which is more affordable and get the train bus or drive in? Or move jobs because if you have a job that means you have to live on the street rather find affordable living then you're just a tight cnut!!

The proper homeless who have no jobs, have addiction problem , family issues abuse issues and other reasons to living on the street in minus conditions they need looking after at the source!! Not at the point were they have lost the will to live, but hey to most councils this is something they'd rather let chartable groups deal with when the feed them cloth them and find them temporary accommodation, rather than dip into their own funds or ask the tax payer to give a little bit more..

Minder has already stated, its not a homeless problem, its the issues behind why they are homeless that needs fixed

[Owen Brannigan]

A major issue is centralisation of jobs, services, etc.  Until there is some form of planning of where jobs are available in the public sector and development of businesses in the main cities there will always be a housing crisis that affects a full range of people and benefits the fact landlords comprising of those with a single rented house to those who own dozens on buy to rent mortgages.

In N.Ireland thousands of people travel too far every day for work, mostly by car leading to major congestion on roads and in Belfast in particular.

One good thing that O'Neill did as Agriculture Minister was to decide to move the department buildings to the West and begin a relocation process.Too many other Ministries are located in the Greater Belfast area.  Businesses are given planning permission to congregate in the city rather than having active planning to encourage them to move to other areas in the digital age.  The lure of business rates encourages council planning committees to pull businesses into the city area regardless of where the workers will come from.

I would imagine that the same problem has occurred in Dublin causing too many people to migrate to a city ill prepared to accommodate them and to transport them to and from work.

There are still many ghost estates all over the RoI from the 2008 financial crash. So the number of houses is not an issue it is where they are located. Look at how many of the ghost estates that were demolished because there would never be people to live in them.