Is it 's or s'?

Started by theticklemister, March 30, 2017, 10:16:41 PM

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AZOffaly

Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 31, 2017, 05:06:03 PM
Quote from: joemamas on March 31, 2017, 02:24:27 PM
Quote from: Minus15 on March 31, 2017, 11:35:42 AM
Quote from: Esmarelda on March 31, 2017, 09:53:14 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 31, 2017, 09:19:55 AM
Quote from: Minus15 on March 31, 2017, 09:08:43 AM
I am consistently annoyed at the amount of people that misuse the apostrophe every single day

This one wouldn't annoy me too much. What annoys me is the use of Their, There, They're.

One I always have to think about when writing it, is 'it's/its'.

It's a lovely day
Its colour.
Well it annoys me no end, almost as much as having missed this debate up until this point.
I think you're all right. I was with FOSB but I think Moysider makes a good point too. The problem is that the club made a balls of naming themselves.

I'm delighted to see so many posters having a very good grasp of the almost discarded apostrophe.

Mixing up Your and You're unforgivable. Seeing businesses make mistakes with the apostrophe in advertisements and the like and people adding an apostrophe before the s just for the craic in a professional setting are pretty bad.

Financial Director in my last place started every email with 'Guy's'

In the end I pulled her on it. Couldn't take it any more.


In the past, when I was sending emails to multiple parties, I was not sure how to begin salutation, if it was two I would go with "Dear Jack and Jill, if it was three I would use a ,
more than that I would go with "Hi everyone" or "To all", which sounded a bit too formal/bossy for my liking.

Anytime an email starts with "Guys," I straight away delete it. And I've never had a follow up request as to why I didn't reply or act on whatever was said. It's a great junk filter.

You're probably missing out on loads of offers and deals from Leinster Rugby.

Main Street

Quote from: moysider on March 31, 2017, 04:38:36 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 31, 2017, 02:06:22 PM
The one in Derry is called, in English, Padraig Pearse's GAC.

The one in Roscommon, Galway and every other example I looked at, is called Padraig Pearses GAA Club.

The Limerick club is called Na Piarsaigh.

So the Limerick one translates as Pearses not Pearse?  Use of the plural in Irish too. Why I wonder?
There are two Pearses.


Ball Hopper

Quote from: Main Street on March 31, 2017, 07:01:50 PM
Quote from: moysider on March 31, 2017, 04:38:36 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 31, 2017, 02:06:22 PM
The one in Derry is called, in English, Padraig Pearse's GAC.

The one in Roscommon, Galway and every other example I looked at, is called Padraig Pearses GAA Club.

The Limerick club is called Na Piarsaigh.

So the Limerick one translates as Pearses not Pearse?  Use of the plural in Irish too. Why I wonder?
There are two Pearses.

From Kerry:  Pearse Bros.Churchill Gaa Club

theticklemister

Huddersfield's Brothers Pearse

Champion The Wonder Horse

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Not one of the starting forwards has ever scored a point from play

Or

Not one of the starting forwards have ever scored a point from play

My P4 child's homework

Eamonnca1

Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 31, 2017, 10:51:55 PM
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Not one of the starting forwards has ever scored a point from play

Or

Not one of the starting forwards have ever scored a point from play

My P4 child's homework

First one. The singular "one of" the forwards is the subject of the sentence.

Lar Naparka

Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 31, 2017, 10:51:55 PM
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Not one of the starting forwards has ever scored a point from play

Or

Not one of the starting forwards have ever scored a point from play

My P4 child's homework
It has to be the first one.
Not one of the starting forwards have ever scored a point from play.
It refers each forward on an individual basis not a collective one.
Compare it with the following and you'll see what I mean. "All of the forward have never scored a point from play."
Same meaning but the later refers to all the forwards as a group and not each one on a one by one basis.
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi

Main Street

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on March 31, 2017, 11:02:23 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 31, 2017, 10:51:55 PM
Sort of related..

Not one of the starting forwards has ever scored a point from play

Or

Not one of the starting forwards have ever scored a point from play

My P4 child's homework

First one. The singular "one of" the forwards is the subject of the sentence.
I don't know what level a child's P4 is at (primary 4th class?), but I suspect that kind of question in a homework will eventually lead to a raft of corrective GAA club name changes in the future  ;D

Champion The Wonder Horse

Quote from: Main Street on March 31, 2017, 11:10:16 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on March 31, 2017, 11:02:23 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 31, 2017, 10:51:55 PM
Sort of related..

Not one of the starting forwards has ever scored a point from play

Or

Not one of the starting forwards have ever scored a point from play

My P4 child's homework

First one. The singular "one of" the forwards is the subject of the sentence.
I don't know what level a child's P4 is at (primary 4th class?), but I suspect that kind of question in a homework will eventually lead to a raft of corrective GAA club name changes in the future  ;D

She's eight.

Not one and none are the the same?

Not one has scored vs none has scored?

Not one have scored vs none have scored?

Main Street

Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 31, 2017, 11:51:06 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 31, 2017, 11:10:16 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on March 31, 2017, 11:02:23 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 31, 2017, 10:51:55 PM
Sort of related..

Not one of the starting forwards has ever scored a point from play

Or

Not one of the starting forwards have ever scored a point from play

My P4 child's homework

First one. The singular "one of" the forwards is the subject of the sentence.
I don't know what level a child's P4 is at (primary 4th class?), but I suspect that kind of question in a homework will eventually lead to a raft of corrective GAA club name changes in the future  ;D

She's eight.

Not one and none are the the same?

Not one has scored vs none has scored?

Not one have scored vs none have scored?
At age 8,  for certain I wouldn't have had a clue.

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: moysider on March 31, 2017, 12:51:22 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 31, 2017, 12:37:47 AM
Quote from: moysider on March 31, 2017, 12:34:03 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 31, 2017, 12:23:45 AM
Quote from: moysider on March 31, 2017, 12:10:00 AM
Chicago Bulls is a team name, right? It is not Chicago Bull's Basketball Team.

Therefore it is Chicago Bulls' owner. Not Chicago Bull's owner. The club does not belong to a bull. The team/players are called bulls. In Ireland we call them Pearses or Mitchels instead of Bears, Reds and Bulls. Surely this should put it to bed. The original Myles would not have messed up like that.

For fcuk's sake, I give up!  :-\

You should! Everybody's got to admit defeat sometime's.

I'll just break this to you though: Chicago Bull wasn't a real person, d'oh!  :P

Those real person's did not possess a football club either. The bull has as much claim to the team as Pearse or James Stephens do. The Pearses = The Bulls. No difference how they are treated grammatically.

Yes, moysider had some valid points, yet he comes out with apostrophe howlers as in exhibit a & b above. Case not even worth the dismissal! :)

Then he regurgitates about Na Piarsaigh, etc... Yawn!

And anyone who talks about the apostrophe meaning the 'belonging' or 'ownership' of anything just don't get this english language thing (though I wish we didn't have to!) ;)

Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

Main Street

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on April 01, 2017, 12:35:56 AM
Quote from: moysider on March 31, 2017, 12:51:22 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 31, 2017, 12:37:47 AM
Quote from: moysider on March 31, 2017, 12:34:03 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 31, 2017, 12:23:45 AM
Quote from: moysider on March 31, 2017, 12:10:00 AM
Chicago Bulls is a team name, right? It is not Chicago Bull's Basketball Team.

Therefore it is Chicago Bulls' owner. Not Chicago Bull's owner. The club does not belong to a bull. The team/players are called bulls. In Ireland we call them Pearses or Mitchels instead of Bears, Reds and Bulls. Surely this should put it to bed. The original Myles would not have messed up like that.

For fcuk's sake, I give up!  :-\

You should! Everybody's got to admit defeat sometime's.

I'll just break this to you though: Chicago Bull wasn't a real person, d'oh!  :P

Those real person's did not possess a football club either. The bull has as much claim to the team as Pearse or James Stephens do. The Pearses = The Bulls. No difference how they are treated grammatically.

Yes, moysider had some valid points, yet he comes out with apostrophe howlers as in exhibit a & b above. Case not even worth the dismissal! :)

Then he regurgitates about Na Piarsaigh, etc... Yawn!

And anyone who talks about the apostrophe meaning the 'belonging' or 'ownership' of anything just don't get this english language thing (though I wish we didn't have to!) ;)
Methinks they were deliberate apostrophe howlers
but i'm burdened by an occasional sense of humour.

vallankumous

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Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 30, 2017, 10:23:48 PM
'Padraig Pearse' is a single club, so it's Padraig Pearse's.

If two clubs called 'Padraig Pearse' were associated with something or other, then it would be Padraig Pearses'.

No debate.  :P

Yip.
The debate was over with the second post.

vallankumous

Quote from: AZOffaly on March 30, 2017, 11:27:30 PM



You are raving.
This Club is named after more than one Padraig Pearse or one person called Padriag Prarses or it's an original name.

ONeill

Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 31, 2017, 10:51:55 PM
Sort of related..

Not one of the starting forwards has ever scored a point from play

Or

Not one of the starting forwards have ever scored a point from play

My P4 child's homework

She must go to a school in Derry.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.