All Ireland U21 football championship 2017

Started by Captain Obvious, February 21, 2017, 12:07:05 AM

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Itchy

Quote from: mrdeeds on April 16, 2017, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: ck on April 15, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
Was at the Galway game. A fine performance.
For me a few things are clear from today. Connacht football is on the rise and Sligo could well be the 2nd best u21 team in the country. Ulster football is not what it was and is on the slide.
Well done Galway

Or maybe Donegal were just bola#ed from too much football. A lot of their players played senior too.

Don't think you could blame tiredness. They were out of ideas from the first minute. When Cavan faced a similar issue in 2011 they only had 2 days recovery, Donegal had 4 and had an easy enough ulster final win too. Dublin were just much better I think.

seafoid

Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 10:13:15 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 16, 2017, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: ck on April 15, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
Was at the Galway game. A fine performance.
For me a few things are clear from today. Connacht football is on the rise and Sligo could well be the 2nd best u21 team in the country. Ulster football is not what it was and is on the slide.
Well done Galway

Or maybe Donegal were just bola#ed from too much football. A lot of their players played senior too.

donegal were definitely tired. dublin defence won't be as generous as kerry
They might be. Anything can happen at underage.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

INDIANA

Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2017, 10:38:47 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 10:13:15 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 16, 2017, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: ck on April 15, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
Was at the Galway game. A fine performance.
For me a few things are clear from today. Connacht football is on the rise and Sligo could well be the 2nd best u21 team in the country. Ulster football is not what it was and is on the slide.
Well done Galway

Or maybe Donegal were just bola#ed from too much football. A lot of their players played senior too.

donegal were definitely tired. dublin defence won't be as generous as kerry
They might be. Anything can happen at underage.

21 is not underage. This is senior football.

ck

Quote from: mrdeeds on April 16, 2017, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: ck on April 15, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
Was at the Galway game. A fine performance.
For me a few things are clear from today. Connacht football is on the rise and Sligo could well be the 2nd best u21 team in the country. Ulster football is not what it was and is on the slide.
Well done Galway

Or maybe Donegal were just bola#ed from too much football. A lot of their players played senior too.

Yeah the Ulster provincial council should be ashamed given the shambles they mafe of ulster championship. Asking the winners to play a well rested Dublin was a ridiculous ask. Donegal can only have been tired no doubt about that. 

Rossfan

Quote from: Syferus on April 15, 2017, 05:57:20 PM
Quote from: Banter Panther on April 15, 2017, 05:53:53 PM
There goes Jack O'Connor's chance of managing the seniors again. In the long run this might be the best thing ever happened these players.

Dislike him as much as the next person but premature much?

Did he refuse to sign your colouring book too (like Nigel D)? ;D
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Dinny Breen

So Dublin are in their 4th u21 final since 2010, they have also appeared in 4 other finals however it took them 46 years to achieve that. It's like something magical happened in the early noughties.....
#newbridgeornowhere

seafoid

Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 11:10:59 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2017, 10:38:47 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 10:13:15 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 16, 2017, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: ck on April 15, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
Was at the Galway game. A fine performance.
For me a few things are clear from today. Connacht football is on the rise and Sligo could well be the 2nd best u21 team in the country. Ulster football is not what it was and is on the slide.
Well done Galway

Or maybe Donegal were just bola#ed from too much football. A lot of their players played senior too.

donegal were definitely tired. dublin defence won't be as generous as kerry
They might be. Anything can happen at underage.

21 is not underage. This is senior football.
It isn't.

-It's not rugby league
-It's more free flowing
-The psychology is different
-Momentum coming into a match is much more important
- Favourites are more vulnerable
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

INDIANA

Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2017, 11:55:59 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 11:10:59 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2017, 10:38:47 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 10:13:15 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 16, 2017, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: ck on April 15, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
Was at the Galway game. A fine performance.
For me a few things are clear from today. Connacht football is on the rise and Sligo could well be the 2nd best u21 team in the country. Ulster football is not what it was and is on the slide.
Well done Galway

Or maybe Donegal were just bola#ed from too much football. A lot of their players played senior too.

donegal were definitely tired. dublin defence won't be as generous as kerry
They might be. Anything can happen at underage.

21 is not underage. This is senior football.
It isn't.

-It's not rugby league
-It's more free flowing
-The psychology is different
-Momentum coming into a match is much more important
- Favourites are more vulnerable

- donegal 21s played rugby league yesterday

- Psychology ? - you either win or lose. So it's the same
- Kerry were never tested before yesterday.

Maroon Manc

Out of the 19 players who saw action yesterday only 7 of them were overage for next year if the 21's had carried on.


From the Bunker

Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 16, 2017, 11:52:33 AM
So Dublin are in their 4th u21 final since 2010, they have also appeared in 4 other finals however it took them 46 years to achieve that. It's like something magical happened in the early noughties.....

All the talk of Kerry dominating at this grade. The Golden generation and what not! Crazy expectation to be put on a bunch of players at such an early stage of their development.

The Mad thing is Dublin's recent dominance at underage has been dismissed - almost ignored in comparison, while Kerry's couple of Minor titles out of no where have been seen as a pre-requisite to future success.

The denial of where Dublin football is at is Scary! This is no fad or temporary dominance. If the Football community is looking to Kerry alone to curtail this dominance the game is in a very sad place!

yellowcard

People blaming tiredness on the Donegal defeat are clutching at straws. These are young lads of 19-21 very few of whom probably have full time jobs. There was ample time for recovery and it's not like they ran Dublin close. Dublin were comfortably the better side and Donegal were victims of their own safety first system that they employ. They have several talented footballers but that system does not allow for creative flair, it's robotic and dull.

Main Street

Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 12:47:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2017, 11:55:59 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 11:10:59 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2017, 10:38:47 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 10:13:15 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 16, 2017, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: ck on April 15, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
Was at the Galway game. A fine performance.
For me a few things are clear from today. Connacht football is on the rise and Sligo could well be the 2nd best u21 team in the country. Ulster football is not what it was and is on the slide.
Well done Galway

Or maybe Donegal were just bola#ed from too much football. A lot of their players played senior too.

donegal were definitely tired. dublin defence won't be as generous as kerry
They might be. Anything can happen at underage.

21 is not underage. This is senior football.
It isn't.

-It's not rugby league
-It's more free flowing
-The psychology is different
-Momentum coming into a match is much more important
- Favourites are more vulnerable

- donegal 21s played rugby league yesterday

- Psychology ? - you either win or lose. So it's the same
- Kerry were never tested before yesterday.
What does that say for the plight of Cork football, if their new generation is offering so little at present?

seafoid

Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 12:47:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2017, 11:55:59 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 11:10:59 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2017, 10:38:47 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 10:13:15 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 16, 2017, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: ck on April 15, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
Was at the Galway game. A fine performance.
For me a few things are clear from today. Connacht football is on the rise and Sligo could well be the 2nd best u21 team in the country. Ulster football is not what it was and is on the slide.
Well done Galway

Or maybe Donegal were just bola#ed from too much football. A lot of their players played senior too.

donegal were definitely tired. dublin defence won't be as generous as kerry
They might be. Anything can happen at underage.

21 is not underage. This is senior football.
It isn't.

-It's not rugby league
-It's more free flowing
-The psychology is different
-Momentum coming into a match is much more important
- Favourites are more vulnerable

- donegal 21s played rugby league yesterday

- Psychology ? - you either win or lose. So it's the same
- Kerry were never tested before yesterday.
Nah
Mayo have won 2 under 21 all Irelands in recent years
Also the spread of titles is far less concentrated

Roscommon, Kildare, Antrim and Westmeath have all won titles whereas none have won senior since the 40s if they have at all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-Ireland_Under-21_Football_Championship#Top_winners
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU


Captain Obvious

Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 12:47:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2017, 11:55:59 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 11:10:59 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2017, 10:38:47 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2017, 10:13:15 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 16, 2017, 10:11:31 AM
Quote from: ck on April 15, 2017, 11:16:06 PM
Was at the Galway game. A fine performance.
For me a few things are clear from today. Connacht football is on the rise and Sligo could well be the 2nd best u21 team in the country. Ulster football is not what it was and is on the slide.
Well done Galway

Or maybe Donegal were just bola#ed from too much football. A lot of their players played senior too.

donegal were definitely tired. dublin defence won't be as generous as kerry
They might be. Anything can happen at underage.

21 is not underage. This is senior football.
It isn't.

-It's not rugby league
-It's more free flowing
-The psychology is different
-Momentum coming into a match is much more important
- Favourites are more vulnerable

- donegal 21s played rugby league yesterday

- Psychology ? - you either win or lose. So it's the same
- Kerry were never tested before yesterday.

Never seen anyone call under 21 football senior football before. Maybe you meant adult football as once over the age of 18 you are meant to be an adult?

The two most physically developed teams won the semi finals yesterdays the most physical players are the most likely players to step up to senior county football.

I'm nearly sure Kerry were tested before yesterday against Clare was it? The hammering of Cork seem to do more harm than good to the Kerry young lads mindsets.