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Re: Super 8s
« Reply #540 on: April 05, 2017, 11:58:20 AM »
Problem with that is we have to hold on to the nettle for three years now. And it'll be the clubs and the weaker counties, the 99.9%, that will feel the sting for three more years than they have to. Short sighted and dollar orientated.
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« Reply #541 on: April 05, 2017, 12:07:37 PM »
Bottom line is that what we have isn't working so whatever about the weaknesses of a round robin it's worth experimenting with until we are willing to grasp the nettle and make real changes.

The current system works better only if your only concern is the bank balance of the GAA. Tell clubs and counties that aren't Dublin or Mayo or Kerry it offers them any advantage or improvement.

I do wonder sometimes about you, Zulu.

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« Reply #542 on: April 05, 2017, 12:19:38 PM »


I do wonder sometimes about you, Zulu.
I'd say the feeling would be mutual.
In fact most of  us here wonder about Syfīn all the time.
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« Reply #543 on: April 05, 2017, 01:14:37 PM »


I do wonder sometimes about you, Zulu.
I'd say the feeling would be mutual.
In fact most of  us here wonder about Syfīn all the time.

The voices in your head aren't real people.

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« Reply #544 on: April 18, 2017, 11:10:14 AM »
Something in the "Independent "(sic) today about the CPA not announcing their master fixtures blueprint just yet.
They had to revise it after the Congress decision to adopt the "Super 8" and they are in discussion with other "stakeholders".
It's believed their plan provides for dedicated weekends for Club fixtures and an AI Intermediate Inter County football championship.
Another group pinching my ideas  ???(SF on the future All Ireland set up).
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/cpa-underestimated-scale-of-problems-in-gaa-448162.html

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Re: Super 8s
« Reply #545 on: May 30, 2017, 10:21:13 AM »
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« Reply #546 on: May 30, 2017, 10:40:11 AM »
Spailpín knows his stuff http://spailpin.blogspot.ie/2017/05/the-football-championship-pageant-not.html
Not bad. His last paragraph however has the intercounty season spanning up to nine months. Did he all of a sudden forget about the clubs?

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« Reply #547 on: July 23, 2017, 09:16:37 AM »
So with the final 8 very nearly sorted, would anyone really have the appetite now for a two group round robin tournament? Personally I think the knock out stage at qtr final stage is when the championship finally starts to crank into gear, i think I'd have no desire for a mini league now.
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« Reply #548 on: July 23, 2017, 09:28:28 AM »
So with the final 8 very nearly sorted, would anyone really have the appetite now for a two group round robin tournament? Personally I think the knock out stage at qtr final stage is when the championship finally starts to crank into gear, i think I'd have no desire for a mini league now.

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« Reply #549 on: July 23, 2017, 09:34:40 AM »
Yeah, now that this time is upon us it feels less desirable.

Time will tell I suppose.

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« Reply #550 on: July 23, 2017, 09:34:58 AM »
This year wouldn't have been the worst year for it. You'd have had a group for example of Tyrone Dublin Mayo and Galway. That surely would lead to some great games. Dublin would have headed potentially to castkebar for a championship game which would be great. As a Tyrone fan a trip to Galway would be nice and a big home game to Mayo would be some occasion. The worry would be the last round of games could have teams playing for nothing.

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« Reply #551 on: July 23, 2017, 09:39:25 AM »
A trip to Salthill would be a nightmare ;D
Meanwhile we'd be with Kerry and probably Monaghan and Kildare.
I suppose Kildare's "home"game would be in Portlaoise?
And no doubt Dublin's home game and "neutral" game will bith be in CrokePark  of course.
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« Reply #552 on: July 23, 2017, 10:00:21 AM »
For the Mayo Season ticket holder it would have meant

Sligo(home)
Galway (away)
Derry (Home)
Clare (away)
Cork (Limerick)
Tyrone (away)
Dublin (away as usual)
Galway (home)
Kerry (Croke Park)
Dublin (away)

Just too many games and a huge financial and time cost!

Gaelic games has always been about decent rest time between games and the build up to the next game.

That is the reason I won't be renewing my season ticket next year!

How many chances can you be giving Kerry and Dublin to win an All Ireland?

How many extra games can you be putting on AMATEUR players and in consecutive weeks.

We have knock out in the Provincial series and we have knock out in the All Ireland series, why introduce this?


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« Reply #553 on: July 23, 2017, 10:07:46 AM »
If you look at Kerry and dublins quarter final record I think you'll find no evidence to back up that the super 8s will make it easier for them. If anything it should give the 8 teams more of an even chance of getting through. Though it is unfair the dubs get two games in croke park but it also means another county will helping them.

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« Reply #554 on: July 23, 2017, 10:16:37 AM »
For the Mayo Season ticket holder it would have meant

Sligo(home)
Galway (away)
Derry (Home)
Clare (away)
Cork (Limerick)
Tyrone (away)
Dublin (away as usual)
Galway (home)
Kerry (Croke Park)
Dublin (away)

Just too many games and a huge financial and time cost!

Gaelic games has always been about decent rest time between games and the build up to the next game.

That is the reason I won't be renewing my season ticket next year!

How many chances can you be giving Kerry and Dublin to win an All Ireland?

How many extra games can you be putting on AMATEUR players and in consecutive weeks.

We have knock out in the Provincial series and we have knock out in the All Ireland series, why introduce this?

It's as well you don't follow a soccer or rugby team. The one thing the gaa championship lacks is important games between the big teams at the height of summer. This will help improve that. Hopefully they use sensible pricing and have a ticket for the counties three games. Currently quarter finals are 30 or 35 Euro from memory, if you got three games for 45/50 surely everyone would be a winner.