Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

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Quote from: BennyCake on April 22, 2017, 09:39:56 AM
Quote from: Hardy on April 21, 2017, 12:44:37 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 18, 2017, 11:50:10 AM
Can you lift a team mate up to catch the ball, like in a line-out in rugby? Be deadly for the smallish Tyrone lads trying to get a mark.

There's no rule against it. So if you did it and the ref blew it, it'd be interesting to hear his reason and what rule he was invoking.

If that's the case, could a player be lifted up to sit/stand on the crossbar to prevent a winning point?
:)
Agreed, but why not have 3 players on the crossbar (strength permitting of course) just to be sure of stopping the ball before it crossed the bar, as it is not written in the rules (or the book of genesis) that we can't?
For that matter, there is no rule saying we can't shove the ball up the jersey, take 4 giant leaps and give birth to ball in a more advantageous location on the pitch.
Yes ref, what do you have to say about that?



BennyCake

Just read Louth Meath report. Meath made a late change to their goalkeeper, and apparently that meant they'd used up one of their subs before the match had even started.

What's that all about then? Teams are forever making last minute changes and it doesn't count towards their sub allocation.

manfromdelmonte

Quote from: BennyCake on June 05, 2017, 10:46:00 PM
Just read Louth Meath report. Meath made a late change to their goalkeeper, and apparently that meant they'd used up one of their subs before the match had even started.

What's that all about then? Teams are forever making last minute changes and it doesn't count towards their sub allocation.
why was he in the goal getting his hat when the 2nd goal went in???

BennyCake

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 05, 2017, 11:16:49 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 05, 2017, 10:46:00 PM
Just read Louth Meath report. Meath made a late change to their goalkeeper, and apparently that meant they'd used up one of their subs before the match had even started.

What's that all about then? Teams are forever making last minute changes and it doesn't count towards their sub allocation.
why was he in the goal getting his hat when the 2nd goal went in???

Mis-read that, it wasn't the goalie, but half forward.

And yeah, that was a strange one. Was like Paddy Cullen blind-folded!

Norf Tyrone

Quote from: BennyCake on June 05, 2017, 10:46:00 PM
Just read Louth Meath report. Meath made a late change to their goalkeeper, and apparently that meant they'd used up one of their subs before the match had even started.

What's that all about then? Teams are forever making last minute changes and it doesn't count towards their sub allocation.

I believe if its after you've submitted the teams to the ref 30 mins before throw in you are locked in.
Owen Roe O'Neills GAC, Leckpatrick, Tyrone

twohands!!!

Quote from: Norf Tyrone on June 06, 2017, 08:45:23 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 05, 2017, 10:46:00 PM
Just read Louth Meath report. Meath made a late change to their goalkeeper, and apparently that meant they'd used up one of their subs before the match had even started.

What's that all about then? Teams are forever making last minute changes and it doesn't count towards their sub allocation.

I believe if its after you've submitted the teams to the ref 30 mins before throw in you are locked in.

Yeah - I think it's a newish enough rule and only for intercounty iirc - within the last 3/4 years at Congress.

tyroneman

One that you rarely see is the sideline ball being moved infield.

Pretty sure if the ref is being given cheek he can move the sideline kick onto the pitch playing area if it is more adventageous, just like he can move a normal free closer to goal.


Smokin Joe

Quote from: tyroneman on June 10, 2017, 07:14:26 PM
One that you rarely see is the sideline ball being moved infield.

Pretty sure if the ref is being given cheek he can move the sideline kick onto the pitch playing area if it is more adventageous, just like he can move a normal free closer to goal.

The ref did this on one occasion last week in the Down v Armagh game.  I remember thinking that it looked odd (as its not normally done)

Minus15

It happened in one of the games in at the weekend there too, I always thought 'you couldn't move up a sideline ball'. Was this a myth or did the rule change at some point?

BennyCake

Blood subs...

I thought when the rule was introduced, the blood sub coming on had to wear a coloured armband signifying he was a blood sub?

Maybe someone could clarify.

Rossfan

That was done originally alright.
However that was probably too transparent for the GAA and it had to be stopped.
Blood sub rule needs some tidying up.
As it is the Ref tells a lad to go off and a temporary sub comes on. It's up to his manager then how long to leave him on for and there seems to be no time limit which leaves it open to abuse.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

mrdeeds

Quote from: Minus15 on June 13, 2017, 05:26:54 PM
It happened in one of the games in at the weekend there too, I always thought 'you couldn't move up a sideline ball'. Was this a myth or did the rule change at some point?

Think it used to be that it could be moved in field but not forward but rule amended to allow it to be moved towards oposition goal.

Rossfan

I hear Jarlath's Rules Committee are bringing a tweak to the kick out before the Special Hurley Congress - that the ball has to go outside the 20m line.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

BennyCake

Quote from: Rossfan on June 21, 2017, 06:53:52 PM
That was done originally alright.
However that was probably too transparent for the GAA and it had to be stopped.
Blood sub rule needs some tidying up.
As it is the Ref tells a lad to go off and a temporary sub comes on. It's up to his manager then how long to leave him on for and there seems to be no time limit which leaves it open to abuse.

Needs tidying indeed.

So, a player could get hurt and bloodied at same time, goes off to get blood sorted. While on sideline, he can't return due to injury, but blood sub stays on.

Can injured/bloody player just slink back to the bench hoping nobody noticed he's all cleaned up, and should be ready to return to play? Does anyone check that he returns immediately? Really then the team get away with using an extra sub?

AZOffaly

Because the ref initiates a blood sub, rather than the team, there is a loophole that can be exploited alright. But you'd want to be lucky that the ref orders a lad off that you don't mind losing :)

One of the other complications is that the returning player does NOT have to replace the lad that came on for him, and this would only count as one sub.

Example, Player A gets cut, and re calls for a sub, player B.

Player B has a stormer, but they want Player A to come back on. Player A returns for Player C.

So effectively Player A's return negates the blood sub, and Player B actually replaces Player C. It only counts as 1 sub.