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Title: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: cornetto on April 19, 2017, 07:35:51 PM
Was just wondering have the a and b groupings been decided already?can't locate.
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Post by: mrdeeds on April 19, 2017, 08:37:08 PM
Was just wondering have the a and b groupings been decided already?can't locate.

Yeah was decided by the draw. Top half automatically A and bottom half B.
Title: Re: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: cornetto on April 20, 2017, 01:04:11 PM
Going on a local paper in galway it says that the A side of the draw is much tougher,for instance the loser of galway v mayo could potentially play derry,meath or kildare or Tyrone and donegal in the course of qualifiers,while on the B side the loser of cavan v monaghanshould reach the fourth round or even quarter final.anyone got a list of a & b sides?
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Post by: Rossfan on April 20, 2017, 02:40:10 PM
Every year since they brought in this A and B thingy one side has ended up much stronger than the other.
Then last year the daftness of Louth in the A side playing a Qualifier game 6 days after losing to Meath and
Wexford in the B Section playing 5 or 6 weeks after losing to Kildare.
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Post by: Maroon Manc on April 20, 2017, 03:09:14 PM
Every year since they brought in this A and B thingy one side has ended up much stronger than the other.
Then last year the daftness of Louth in the A side playing a Qualifier game 6 days after losing to Meath and
Wexford in the B Section playing 5 or 6 weeks after losing to Kildare.

Agree its led to one side been stronger than the other side and then come round 4 you're left with a situation where a county can only face one team because a provincial loser and a round 3 winner already met earlier on in the championship. In 2015 Galway had to face Donegal in round 4 as Tyrone couldn't play Donegal as they'd met in Ulster already, instead Tyrone played Sligo.
Title: Re: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: Esmarelda on April 20, 2017, 03:32:44 PM
Every year since they brought in this A and B thingy one side has ended up much stronger than the other.
Then last year the daftness of Louth in the A side playing a Qualifier game 6 days after losing to Meath and
Wexford in the B Section playing 5 or 6 weeks after losing to Kildare.

Agree its led to one side been stronger than the other side and then come round 4 you're left with a situation where a county can only face one team because a provincial loser and a round 3 winner already met earlier on in the championship. In 2015 Galway had to face Donegal in round 4 as Tyrone couldn't play Donegal as they'd met in Ulster already, instead Tyrone played Sligo.
I can't be sure, and I know it's not popular to acknowledge these things if I am correct, but I think the new championship structures do away with the A & B split.
Title: Re: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: AZOffaly on April 20, 2017, 03:35:05 PM
I don't know that it does, to be honest. The Super 8s are the step after the qualifiers are over anyway, so I'm not sure they would impact. The shorter season may do something to it alright.
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Post by: Esmarelda on April 20, 2017, 03:37:26 PM
I don't know that it does, to be honest. The Super 8s are the step after the qualifiers are over anyway, so I'm not sure they would impact. The shorter season may do something to it alright.
When I said the new structures, I meant the changes generally.

I seem to be the only one that looks upon the changes as a whole rather than putting the big bad Super 8 out on its own.
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Post by: AZOffaly on April 20, 2017, 03:40:21 PM
Hang on now. There were actually 3 changes proposed, not just 1. So each change on its own can be discussed in isolation. It would have been perfectly possible to put in the shorter season, the no replay rule and forget the Super 8.

Of course the net effect of all 3 of them is what we will see in 2018, but they did not all have to be put in place. As for the Super 8, I certainly don't think it is big bad anything, I just think it's a revenue generator, end of story.

Looking at the 3 as 1 big change is incorrect, technically, and that is what the delegates at convention allegedly did. They were led to believe that it was all or nothing, even though it wasn't. So it's only you, and all the misled delegates at congress.*


*I don't believe for a second they were misled. That's a copout when they realised there was a backlash against the Super 8 idea from some quarters.
Title: Re: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: Esmarelda on April 20, 2017, 03:48:09 PM
Hang on now. There were actually 3 changes proposed, not just 1. So each change on its own can be discussed in isolation. It would have been perfectly possible to put in the shorter season, the no replay rule and forget the Super 8.

Of course the net effect of all 3 of them is what we will see in 2018, but they did not all have to be put in place. As for the Super 8, I certainly don't think it is big bad anything, I just think it's a revenue generator, end of story.

Looking at the 3 as 1 big change is incorrect, technically, and that is what the delegates at convention allegedly did. They were led to believe that it was all or nothing, even though it wasn't. So it's only you, and all the misled delegates at congress.*


*I don't believe for a second they were misled. That's a copout when they realised there was a backlash against the Super 8 idea from some quarters.
That was quite an unnecessary mouthful.

All I meant was that I read the initial proposal when it was released which then turned out to be three different proposals rolled into one. Since then I've thought of them as one rather than what they turned out to be. I was merely pointing out what my initial post was supposed to mean, as opposed to how you interpreted it.
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Post by: AZOffaly on April 20, 2017, 03:51:16 PM
That's right. You were wrong to view them as 1 proposal initially. Apology accepted.

I see how Stallion does this now :)

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Post by: Esmarelda on April 20, 2017, 03:55:36 PM
That's right. You were wrong to view them as 1 proposal initially. Apology accepted.

I see how Stallion does this now :)
Ha, I just noticed how he did it last week.

I didn't apologise. The proposal was one proposal initially. There was no other way to view it. I subsequently failed to adapt to the way it was split in three when discussing it.
Title: Re: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: AZOffaly on April 20, 2017, 03:58:19 PM
I'm only slagging. Anyway, to your point before we started rambling off, I'm not sure if the new changes, en masse, actually do affect the A&B bit, or do they just make them run off quicker.
Title: Re: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: Esmarelda on April 20, 2017, 04:00:14 PM
I'm only slagging. Anyway, to your point before we started rambling off, I'm not sure if the new changes, en masse, actually do affect the A&B bit, or do they just make them run off quicker.
They all seem to be on the one weekend anyway. I thought I read somewhere in that initial three-part proposal  ;) that they were gone but I can't seem to find it.

Doesn't matter anyway. Now that they've been voted through, Croke Park and Sky are going to screw us all and change the whole thing to ensure the Dubs win it out.

Edit - it was in the initial proposal - "The format of 'A' and 'B' sides to the qualifier draw will be ended"
Title: Re: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: Rossfan on April 20, 2017, 05:02:32 PM
Will the Provincial Finals be squeezed tighter together in 2018?
Currently the 4 Football Finals are so read over 3 weekends.
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Post by: Syferus on April 20, 2017, 05:06:04 PM
Will the Provincial Finals be squeezed tighter together in 2018?
Currently the 4 Football Finals are so read over 3 weekends.

Time to utilize the heretofore unknown (to provincial councils) tool called 'Saturday'..
Title: Re: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: Esmarelda on April 20, 2017, 05:13:36 PM
Will the Provincial Finals be squeezed tighter together in 2018?
Currently the 4 Football Finals are so read over 3 weekends.
The Alternative 2016 calendar based on the now passed proposals had the Munster Final on 5th June, Connacht Final on 12 June, Ulster and Leinster Finals on 19th June.
Title: Re: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: cornetto on April 21, 2017, 01:31:59 AM
Section A :sligo, louth,Wicklow, Laois,  longford,meath,kildare
Galway, mayo,Tyrone,donegal,derry,antrim,Cor waterford,kerry

Section B :
leitrim, london,roscommon,Carlow,wexford,Westmeath, Offaly,dublin,clare,limerick , tipperary,down,Armagh,cavan,Monaghan, fermanagh.

Title: Re: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: Rossfan on April 21, 2017, 09:44:23 AM
Am I right in thinking Connacht and Munster Finalists play the A survivors in Rd4 and Qtr Finals?
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Post by: cornetto on April 21, 2017, 11:33:36 AM
Yes indeed, losing finalist in Connacht, munster will play an A side.
Connacht and munster winners will play  winners of these games, (try to avold repeat pairings)q.final

Connacht  champion or who beats them v
munster champion or who beats them.(s.final)
Title: Re: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: Rossfan on April 21, 2017, 01:31:45 PM
So if year 1 of our 3 year plan works well be playing bloody Kerry in the Qtr Final. :o :-[
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Post by: cornetto on April 22, 2017, 02:07:21 PM
Just going through the fixtures and it could end up
galway,Tyrone, Cork,kildare to face each other on the a side for the right to play beaten finalists,probably roscommon,Tipperary. Alot of ifs and buts!!
Title: Re: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: Syferus on April 22, 2017, 02:11:54 PM
So if year 1 of our 3 year plan works well be playing bloody Kerry in the Qtr Final. :o :-[

Semi-final.
Title: Re: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: Rossfan on April 22, 2017, 03:45:01 PM
Year 1 is losing CF and reaching AIQF.
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Post by: cornetto on April 24, 2017, 06:51:42 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2016/1013/823897-live-gaa-championship-2017-draw/
Has all the a and B sides and the draw
Title: Re: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: Maroon Manc on May 17, 2017, 12:16:36 PM
Am I right in thinking Connacht and Munster Finalists play the A survivors in Rd4 and Qtr Finals?

Not a fan of this at all. If as I expect Mayo win a Connacht title should Galway or Roscommon navigate through to a quarter final their only opponents can be the Munster Champions which is going to be Kerry unless both Galway & Roscommon manage to both reach a quarter final then Galway would play Mayo and Roscommon would play Kerry.

The A side is clearly stronger than the B side, luckily for the Ros they'll likely avoid rounds 2 & 3.
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Post by: Rossfan on May 17, 2017, 12:34:48 PM
The fallacy of basing the AI on the Provincials is pretty evident this year in the contrasting paths of Ros and Monaghan.
We play Leitrim/London where a win over D4 opposition has us in the last 12 at worst.
Monaghan have to beat Fermanagh, Cavan and Down/Armagh to get to the same stage.

Will the A and B daftness be abolished next year?
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Post by: Esmarelda on May 17, 2017, 12:40:13 PM
The fallacy of basing the AI on the Provincials is pretty evident this year in the contrasting paths of Ros and Monaghan.
We play Leitrim/London where a win over D4 opposition has us in the last 12 at worst.
Monaghan have to beat Fermanagh, Cavan and Down/Armagh to get to the same stage.

Will the A and B daftness be abolished next year?
Yes, see my post on page one of this very thread.
Title: Re: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: Maroon Manc on May 17, 2017, 12:53:12 PM
The fallacy of basing the AI on the Provincials is pretty evident this year in the contrasting paths of Ros and Monaghan.
We play Leitrim/London where a win over D4 opposition has us in the last 12 at worst.
Monaghan have to beat Fermanagh, Cavan and Down/Armagh to get to the same stage.

Will the A and B daftness be abolished next year?
Yes, see my post on page one of this very thread.

Did they set out dates for the super 8's next year?
Title: Re: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: Rossfan on May 17, 2017, 01:04:36 PM
Didn't see anything anywhere.
If the August AI Final is to be achieved I'd expect the "8s" to be in July - 1st 3 weeks???
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Post by: Esmarelda on May 17, 2017, 02:23:44 PM
The fallacy of basing the AI on the Provincials is pretty evident this year in the contrasting paths of Ros and Monaghan.
We play Leitrim/London where a win over D4 opposition has us in the last 12 at worst.
Monaghan have to beat Fermanagh, Cavan and Down/Armagh to get to the same stage.

Will the A and B daftness be abolished next year?
Yes, see my post on page one of this very thread.

Did they set out dates for the super 8's next year?
The proposal, when applied to the 2016 calendar had the first group game on the weekend of 16th July with the second and third games played on the following two weeks.
Title: Re: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: cornetto on May 29, 2017, 12:54:08 PM
Qualifiers so far
Who am I missing from b?
pool A: Antrim,Derry,Limerick,Longford,,Sligo,Wicklow

pool B: ,Fermanagh,London,Offally,Waterford,Wexford."
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Post by: Rossfan on May 29, 2017, 01:17:39 PM
Offaly still in the Leinster aren't they??!!
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Post by: stevecw on May 29, 2017, 01:19:15 PM
Offaly haven't played yet.

So far it's

A: Sligo, Wicklow, Longford, Waterford, Derry, Antrim. 

B: London, Wexford, Limerick, Fermanagh

Still to be played:
A will also have Louth/Meath and Laois/Kildare

B will have Carlow/Dublin, Offaly/Westmeath, Down/Armagh and Cavan/Monaghan
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Post by: TheImpactCode on May 31, 2017, 06:37:36 AM
When is the qualifier draw going to be made?

Is there a list of the a & b lists?
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Post by: joemamas on May 31, 2017, 01:56:40 PM
When is the qualifier draw going to be made?

Is there a list of the a & b lists?

Maybe you could do a little "impact" research and go back a page or two.
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Post by: TheImpactCode on May 31, 2017, 02:28:40 PM
Draw is next Tuesday morning by all accounts
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Post by: Owen Brannigan on June 04, 2017, 10:03:00 PM

A: Sligo, Wicklow, Longford, Waterford, Derry, Antrim, Laois, Louth

B: London, Wexford, Limerick, Fermanagh, Carlow, Armagh,

Still to be played:


B: Cavan/Monaghan, Offaly/Westmeath
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Post by: seafoid on June 04, 2017, 10:09:57 PM
Waterford would fancy their chances against Armagh
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Post by: Farrandeelin on June 04, 2017, 10:42:28 PM
You'd think the B round 1 draw would be delayed a week.
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Post by: Owen Brannigan on June 04, 2017, 10:53:15 PM
Round 1A 17th June

Round 1B 24th June
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Post by: Owen Brannigan on June 05, 2017, 01:55:03 PM
Waterford would fancy their chances against Armagh

Don't think that is an exclusive club.
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Post by: illdecide on June 05, 2017, 02:10:51 PM
Every team will be looking to play Armagh...easy touch into the next round
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Post by: lurganblue on June 05, 2017, 03:34:09 PM
Waterford would fancy their chances against Armagh

Don't think that is an exclusive club.

It'll be Armagh v Laois again sure
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Post by: armaghniac on June 05, 2017, 04:18:28 PM
Waterford would fancy their chances against Armagh

Don't think that is an exclusive club.

It'll be Armagh v Laois again sure

As Laois is in A and Armagh in B, I wouldn't bet on this. I wouldn't fancy Cavan or Fermanagh.
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Post by: illdecide on June 05, 2017, 08:13:06 PM
Was thinking a we trip to London would be nice but in the current climate maybe safer staying here.

Away to Limerick?
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Post by: imtommygunn on June 06, 2017, 08:48:14 AM
Armagh fermanagh a big game.

Antrim sligo hopefully has a sting in it.

The rest reasonably predctable.

Though with waterford running cork to a point might be a banana skin there for derry.
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Post by: imtommygunn on June 06, 2017, 08:50:50 AM
Actually louth longford and laois wicklow might have something in them too.

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Post by: naka on June 06, 2017, 09:01:24 AM
Fancy Fermanagh to beat Armagh on this one.
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Post by: tintin25 on June 06, 2017, 09:04:26 AM
Fancy Fermanagh to beat Armagh on this one.

I wouldn't!  Armagh favourites imo.  Can't be as bad as they were against Down.
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Post by: Il Bomber Destro on June 06, 2017, 09:05:15 AM
I think it's about time teams from the same provinces shouldn't be allowed draw each other in the early rounds of the Championship.
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Post by: 118cmal on June 06, 2017, 09:08:13 AM
Will any of these be televised?  If so, what channel?
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Post by: Il Bomber Destro on June 06, 2017, 09:13:39 AM
Will any of these be televised?  If so, what channel?

Doubtful.
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Post by: skeog on June 06, 2017, 09:38:59 AM
Ita irrelevent nonsense wouldnt draw 15000 between the 8 games.I suppose lightgate during their last encounter in Armagh might have a sequel to it.
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Post by: seafoid on June 06, 2017, 09:41:26 AM
Round 1A of the All Ireland Football qualifiers (Games to take place on Saturday, June 17):

Waterford v Derry
Louth v Longford
Wicklow v Laois
Sligo v Antrim

Round 1B of the All-Ireland football qualifiers (Games to be played on Saturday, June 24):

Westmeath/Offaly v Cavan/Monaghan
Armagh v Fermanagh
Limerick v Wexford
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Post by: twohands!!! on June 06, 2017, 09:41:43 AM
Will any of these be televised?  If so, what channel?

Sky will be showing some of the qualifiers iirc on Saturday evenings iirc.
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Post by: Never beat the deeler on June 06, 2017, 09:49:38 AM
Will any of these be televised?  If so, what channel?

Sky will be showing some of the qualifiers iirc on Saturday evenings iirc.

You cant even remember the middle of your sentence by the time you get to the end of your sentence!
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Post by: Hound on June 06, 2017, 09:51:26 AM
Round 1A of the All Ireland Football qualifiers (Games to take place on Saturday, June 17):

Waterford v Derry
Louth v Longford
Wicklow v Laois
Sligo v Antrim

Round 1B of the All-Ireland football qualifiers (Games to be played on Saturday, June 24):

Westmeath/Offaly v Cavan/Monaghan
Armagh v Fermanagh
Limerick v Wexford
Missing one from 1B?
Carlow v somebody, I presume..
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Post by: twohands!!! on June 06, 2017, 09:52:53 AM
Will any of these be televised?  If so, what channel?

Sky will be showing some of the qualifiers iirc on Saturday evenings iirc.

You cant even remember the middle of your sentence by the time you get to the end of your sentence!

Bank Holiday Tuesday morning - definitely not at my sharpest this am.
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Post by: twohands!!! on June 06, 2017, 09:53:32 AM
Round 1A of the All Ireland Football qualifiers (Games to take place on Saturday, June 17):

Waterford v Derry
Louth v Longford
Wicklow v Laois
Sligo v Antrim

Round 1B of the All-Ireland football qualifiers (Games to be played on Saturday, June 24):

Westmeath/Offaly v Cavan/Monaghan
Armagh v Fermanagh
Limerick v Wexford
Missing one from 1B?
Carlow v somebody, I presume..

London v Carlow
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Post by: BennyCake on June 06, 2017, 10:00:44 AM
Fancy Fermanagh to beat Armagh on this one.

I wouldn't!  Armagh favourites imo.  Can't be as bad as they were against Down.

Can't they?!
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Post by: tonto1888 on June 06, 2017, 10:05:03 AM
Fancy Fermanagh to beat Armagh on this one.

I wouldn't!  Armagh favourites imo.  Can't be as bad as they were against Down.

Can't they?!

Tell me about it. I thought that before the Down game
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Post by: lurganblue on June 06, 2017, 10:12:47 AM
Cant see anyone in Armagh being overly confident now that their wings have been clipped.
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Post by: magpie seanie on June 06, 2017, 10:34:11 AM
Can anyone confirm that Sligo are definitely at home to Antrim? They said say on the radio and we did come out of the hat first.
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Post by: sligoman2 on June 06, 2017, 11:40:43 AM
Can anyone confirm that Sligo are definitely at home to Antrim? They said say on the radio and we did come out of the hat first.

Confirmed Seanie we were first out of the hat and I assume Antrim had a home qualifier so we get home advantage.  We have seen a lot of Antrim o er the years, if fully fit I would make us slight favorites
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Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 06, 2017, 11:40:55 AM
Louth will kill us without mercy.
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Post by: thebuzz on June 06, 2017, 11:44:57 AM
Louth will kill us without mercy.

Never heard of Longford going out in the first round of the qualifiers...
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Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 06, 2017, 12:16:40 PM
Louth will kill us without mercy.

Never heard of Longford going out in the first round of the qualifiers...

I have  :-[

2001 (Wickla), 2003 (Donegal), 2005 (Sligo), 2007 (Westmeath), 2008 (Laois).

I suppose it is nearly 10 years since we've had the minimum of championship games.
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Post by: illdecide on June 06, 2017, 12:42:43 PM
That's a tough game for Armagh...50/50 game for me TBH, Although the Armagh at home factor could swing it in Fermanagh's favour ;)

Our record in AG is ridiculously poor...

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Post by: joemamas on June 06, 2017, 01:48:21 PM
Would I be correct in saying that the winners of the A qualifier games play
Galway or Mayo, Kildare or Meath, Tyrone or Donegal and presumably Clare.

Whereas B winners will play,

Weatmeath or Offaly, Monaghan/cavan or Down, Tipp or Cork, and presumably Leitrim.

So A group could have three Division one teams to look forward to and B group most likely none, (assuming Monaghan account for Cavan).

What rocket  scientist in the GAA hierarchy came up with this. 
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Post by: westbound on June 06, 2017, 01:56:47 PM
Would I be correct in saying that the winners of the A qualifier games play
Galway or Mayo, Kildare or Meath, Tyrone or Donegal and presumably Clare.

Whereas B winners will play,

Weatmeath or Offaly, Monaghan/cavan or Down, Tipp or Cork, and presumably Leitrim.

So A group could have three Division one teams to look forward to and B group most likely none, (assuming Monaghan account for Cavan).

What rocket  scientist in the GAA hierarchy came up with this.

This is typical of many 'solutions' in the GAA. We solve one problem but in doing so create another!

It's also evidence of why the hierarchy need to be very careful if/when a new championship format is introduced. The 'solution' would need to be very carefully thought through to ensure the law of unintended consequences does not arise!!
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Post by: FermGael on June 06, 2017, 02:13:45 PM
Glad to have avoided the losers of Monaghan and Cavan if I am being honest.

Armagh is a fifty fifty game.
We have not got a great record at the Athletics grounds.  Would not be a happy hunting ground for Fermanagh.
A lot will depend on who we have back from injury and how Fermanagh have regrouped after the Monaghan game.

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Post by: T Fearon on June 06, 2017, 02:23:33 PM
Armagh up against another Division 2 team.Fermanagh have.to be favourites,big Quigley will have a field.day
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Post by: TheImpactCode on June 06, 2017, 03:30:37 PM
Is there any announcement made of venues or what games are televised.
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Post by: balladmaker on June 06, 2017, 03:41:00 PM
Armagh v Fermanagh, McGeeney v McGrath ... Fermanagh have to be favourites.
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Post by: TheImpactCode on June 06, 2017, 03:53:48 PM
Aye wee Pete has done wonders.  What age is he, seems to have been about forever.
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Post by: stew on June 06, 2017, 03:56:22 PM
Fermanagh will win this by a couple of points......................or ten.
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Post by: twohands!!! on June 06, 2017, 04:05:10 PM
Armagh 4/9 Fermanagh 9/4 on Paddypower at the moment

For any tempted Fermanagh had 2 wins in Division 2 - against Down and Clare [Down had 2 wins and a draw]

Fermanagh also have the 9 point loss to Monaghan in the first round.

Fermanagh might possibly be worth a wee nibble - but overall it's hard to have much confidence in any of the teams involved at this stage - you can't have any sort of faith that any of them will turn in a performance.

The 12 goals conceded by Fermanagh in the league was the 2nd highest in the league, but they did keep 14-man Monaghan to one major.
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Post by: Rossfan on June 06, 2017, 04:07:05 PM
With all due respects to all the Round 1 teams only the Cavan V Monaghan losers have much hope of reaching a Quarter Final.
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Post by: dec on June 06, 2017, 04:35:45 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0606/880518-qualifier-r1-17/

All-Ireland qualifiers Round 1A
Saturday June 17

Waterford v Derry, Fraher Field, 3pm
Louth v Longford, Gaelic Grounds, 5pm
Wicklow v Laois, Joule Park, 5pm
Sligo v Antrim, Markievicz Park, 5pm

All-Ireland qualifiers Round 1B

Saturday June 24
Limerick v Wexford, Gaelic Grounds, 3pm

Sunday June 25
Westmeath/Offaly v Cavan/Monaghan, O'Connor Park/Cusack Park, 6.30pm
Armagh v Fermanagh, Athletic Grounds, 6.30pm
London v Carlow, McGovern Park, 1pm

6:30 on a Sunday seems like an unusual time.
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Post by: stevecw on June 06, 2017, 10:44:06 PM
From a Carlow point of view, gotta be happy with that draw. It was always likely that we'd be away after beating Wicklow at home in last years 1st round. So London was the best one to get.
Decent side, but after our terrible loss at home to them in the league which ended up costing us promotion we are well warned this time.

Be great to win another game and get 4 championship games, can't remember the last time that happened.
I see Connolly got his 12 week ban today, a pity he didn't get the red card he should have got instead on Sat night at the time. Score was Dub 0-9, Car 0-6, it would have put Dub down to 14 after 45 mins. Instead he stayed on & we went down to 14 and Dublin tapped over points in last few mins.
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Post by: Gold on June 06, 2017, 10:54:03 PM
Looking forward to a night in Garvogue
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Post by: Faugheen on June 06, 2017, 11:10:23 PM
From a Carlow point of view, gotta be happy with that draw. It was always likely that we'd be away after beating Wicklow at home in last years 1st round. So London was the best one to get.
Decent side, but after our terrible loss at home to them in the league which ended up costing us promotion we are well warned this time.

Be great to win another game and get 4 championship games, can't remember the last time that happened.
I see Connolly got his 12 week ban today, a pity he didn't get the red card he should have got instead on Sat night at the time. Score was Dub 0-9, Car 0-6, it would have put Dub down to 14 after 45 mins. Instead he stayed on & we went down to 14 and Dublin tapped over points in last few mins.
Wishful thinking,ye wouldn't have beat them if ye were still playing.You have to move the ball forward to get scores.It was a bore fest.
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Post by: stevecw on June 06, 2017, 11:33:54 PM
From a Carlow point of view, gotta be happy with that draw. It was always likely that we'd be away after beating Wicklow at home in last years 1st round. So London was the best one to get.
Decent side, but after our terrible loss at home to them in the league which ended up costing us promotion we are well warned this time.

Be great to win another game and get 4 championship games, can't remember the last time that happened.
I see Connolly got his 12 week ban today, a pity he didn't get the red card he should have got instead on Sat night at the time. Score was Dub 0-9, Car 0-6, it would have put Dub down to 14 after 45 mins. Instead he stayed on & we went down to 14 and Dublin tapped over points in last few mins.
Wishful thinking,ye wouldn't have beat them if ye were still playing.You have to move the ball forward to get scores.It was a bore fest.

Where did I say we would have beaten them? Obviously they would have won, but it would have been by about 6/7 points rather than 12.
For any team, never mind a Div 4 side that is not bad. Yep we played a negative boring game, but had to be done against the best team.

Against teams of our own level we score plenty, even in 1st round we got 2-17.
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Post by: seafoid on June 07, 2017, 04:22:18 AM
From a Carlow point of view, gotta be happy with that draw. It was always likely that we'd be away after beating Wicklow at home in last years 1st round. So London was the best one to get.
Decent side, but after our terrible loss at home to them in the league which ended up costing us promotion we are well warned this time.

Be great to win another game and get 4 championship games, can't remember the last time that happened.
I see Connolly got his 12 week ban today, a pity he didn't get the red card he should have got instead on Sat night at the time. Score was Dub 0-9, Car 0-6, it would have put Dub down to 14 after 45 mins. Instead he stayed on & we went down to 14 and Dublin tapped over points in last few mins.
Turlough O'Brien has done a great job with Carlow.
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Post by: macdanger2 on June 12, 2017, 12:26:27 AM
Any craic in here??
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Post by: illdecide on June 12, 2017, 12:10:20 PM
Any craic in here??

No
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Post by: Hound on June 14, 2017, 12:49:22 PM
Any craic in here??
Mayo's road to Croke Park is still fairly well laid out

R2:
One of:
Derry/Waterford
Louth/Longford
Laois/Wicklow
Sligo/Antrim

R3:
One of:
Clare
Meath/Kildare
Donegal/Tyrone

R4:
Probably Cork or Roscommon (losing Munster and Connacht finalists)

QF:
Probably Kerry

So unless some other upsets, it's only R3 that Mayo would have any concern over prior to Kerry.
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Post by: ballinaman on June 14, 2017, 01:13:54 PM
Any craic in here??
Mayo's road to Croke Park is still fairly well laid out

R2:
One of:
Derry/Waterford
Louth/Longford
Laois/Wicklow
Sligo/Antrim

R3:
One of:
Clare
Meath/Kildare
Donegal/Tyrone

R4:
Probably Cork or Roscommon (losing Munster and Connacht finalists)

QF:
Probably Kerry

So unless some other upsets, it's only R3 that Mayo would have any concern over prior to Kerry.
Tyrone in Omagh...chalk it down
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Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 17, 2017, 10:55:43 AM
Grand day for a baytin :'(
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Post by: Cunny Funt on June 17, 2017, 01:23:14 PM
Any craic in here??
Mayo's road to Croke Park is still fairly well laid out

R2:
One of:
Derry/Waterford
Louth/Longford
Laois/Wicklow
Sligo/Antrim

R3:
One of:
Clare
Meath/Kildare
Donegal/Tyrone

R4:
Probably Cork or Roscommon (losing Munster and Connacht finalists)

QF:
Probably Kerry

So unless some other upsets, it's only R3 that Mayo would have any concern over prior to Kerry.
Tyrone in Omagh...chalk it down
Or a repeat of last year.

Derry or Antrim at home in round 2
Meath or Kildare at home in round 3
Roscommon in Croke park in round 4
A low scoring one point win in the All Ireland quarter final and play some Div 3 team in the AI semi final.


Title: Re: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: Blowitupref on June 17, 2017, 02:21:34 PM
21 mins played Westmeath 0-7 Offaly 0-3
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Post by: on the sideline on June 17, 2017, 02:36:15 PM
Any games on tv today?
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Post by: Blowitupref on June 17, 2017, 02:39:49 PM
Half time Westmeath 0-9 Offaly 0-5.
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Post by: Blowitupref on June 17, 2017, 03:18:35 PM
55 mins gone goal for Westmeath! Westmeath 1-13 Offaly 0-11
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Post by: Blowitupref on June 17, 2017, 03:26:48 PM
61 mins Offaly down to 14. Westmeath 1-14 Offaly 0-14
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Post by: Blowitupref on June 17, 2017, 03:43:27 PM
FT Westmeath 3-17 Offaly 0-15.  Westmeath play Dublin next while Offaly play Cavan.
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Post by: twohands!!! on June 17, 2017, 03:50:45 PM
All-Ireland Senior Football Championship Qualifiers  Derry 0-11  Waterford 0-9 (HT)


Quote
Des Cahill‏Verified account @sportsdes  12m12 minutes ago
 Waterford footballers are right in this game!  It's #Derry 0-11 #Waterford 0-9 just coming up to half time.  #FootballQualifiers

Quote
Daragh Ó Conchúir‏ @RebelDevil71  4m4 minutes ago
 Derry lead Waterford 0-11 to 0-9 in Fraher Field. Waterford have been excellent after a slow start, Gavin Crotty on fire.

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Post by: Captain Obvious on June 17, 2017, 04:17:38 PM
Derry well ahead in that game now 1-16 to 0-9.
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Post by: Captain Obvious on June 17, 2017, 04:35:43 PM
All over Derry 1-17 Waterford 0-13. Wide count Derry 17 Waterford 10.
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Post by: Aaron Boone on June 17, 2017, 04:41:35 PM
Barton comes good.
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Post by: BennyCake on June 17, 2017, 04:44:26 PM
Barton comes good.

Aye, but can he speak in a French accent like his namesake?
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Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 17, 2017, 05:47:55 PM
Louth 0-05
Larries 0-09

Half time.

Quality lacking in both teams. Larries shed load of wides.
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Post by: Blowitupref on June 17, 2017, 05:49:34 PM
Other half times
Wicklow 0-05 Laois 1-08
Sligo 0-07 Antrim 0-06
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Post by: Gold on June 17, 2017, 06:14:31 PM
Antrim 4 up 2.6 to 8

But down to 14
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Post by: twohands!!! on June 17, 2017, 06:16:52 PM
Antrim 4 up 2.6 to 8

But down to 14

Second goal was a shot for a point that dropped short.

Longford down to 14 with Robbie Smyth off on 2 yellows.
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Post by: imtommygunn on June 17, 2017, 06:33:39 PM
Sligo four up now. Not looking good.
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Post by: Rossfan on June 17, 2017, 06:39:20 PM
Grand day for a baytin :'(
Ye fairly dished one out there Sham :D
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Post by: twohands!!! on June 17, 2017, 06:39:58 PM
Sligo four up now. Not looking good.

12 points in a row for Sligo says it all about Antrim's performance.

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Post by: Qwerty28 on June 17, 2017, 06:41:33 PM
Hopefully we get Mayo in Pearse Park, 2010 all over again!

Oh wait, we've no stand  >:(
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Post by: Rossfan on June 17, 2017, 06:42:16 PM
So Antrim Waterford Wicklow and Louth gone.
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Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 17, 2017, 06:43:36 PM
Bizarre end to game . Louth 3 lads sent off. One for kicking ball at umpire!
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Post by: twohands!!! on June 17, 2017, 06:44:51 PM
So Antrim Waterford Wicklow and Louth gone.

3 sides who will be in Division 4 next year and one that will be in Division 2.
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Post by: T Fearon on June 17, 2017, 06:47:04 PM
Is Jack Dowling,Antrim a son of former Armagh player Dermot Dowling?
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Post by: sligoman2 on June 17, 2017, 06:59:06 PM
Sending off for Antrim was a turning point for 2 reason

1) Antrim down to 14
2) give us a chance to. Ring on a fast player Kyle Cawley to replace a injured Mark Breheny.

I hope Mark is okay. It I think he should be a sub for the next day, once sligo played fast direc football they were unstoppable.

Don't know why Kevin McDonnell didn't start .
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Post by: Main Street on June 17, 2017, 09:23:20 PM
If that umpire was hit by the ball and if he counts as an official, a made official, one of the untouchables, then that Louth player should be facing the CCCC, cap in hand.
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Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 17, 2017, 09:59:27 PM
Last min of the game.....Louth well beaten......50:50 ball goes wide well away from the goals - perhaps a 45, perhaps not. Umpire had moved out....signalled wide. Louth lad (Burns) turned and rooted the ball off the ground towards the retreating umpire who had his back turned - ball hits umpire, Bishop Brennan style, up the arse.

Umpire takes umbrage (ref didn't see this as his back was turned) and consults with his colleague. Both contacted the ref via mike and ref had no choice but to give red.

I have never seen this before. Maybe it happened in some Junior B local grudge match with local umpires but in a senior inter county game?

Madness.

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Post by: playwiththewind1st on June 17, 2017, 10:32:50 PM
I once sent a certain boy off  in an Antrim U-16 HC match. Turned my back, to restart the match & then his stick came whistling by my ear. Now that's something to complain about. Never turn your back is my advice.
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Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 17, 2017, 10:39:01 PM
Last min of the game.....Louth well beaten......50:50 ball goes wide well away from the goals - perhaps a 45, perhaps not. Umpire had moved out....signalled wide. Louth lad (Burns) turned and rooted the ball off the ground towards the retreating umpire who had his back turned - ball hits umpire, Bishop Brennan style, up the arse.

Umpire takes umbrage (ref didn't see this as his back was turned) and consults with his colleague. Both contacted the ref via mike and ref had no choice but to give red.

I have never seen this before. Maybe it happened in some Junior B local grudge match with local umpires but in a senior inter county game?

Madness.
unless it was intentional, he cannot be suspended and the card will be recinded
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Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 17, 2017, 10:58:11 PM
Well. I spose it's hard to prove intent - only the player knows this - but it was kicked with such force and direction that it look pretty intentional. Hard to know hoe this will pan out but it looks like his summer is over.

BTW I forgot to say the reason the ref had his back turned was because he was busy sending on another Louth lad!
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Post by: PMG1 on June 17, 2017, 11:16:28 PM
Is Jack Dowling,Antrim a son of former Armagh player Dermot Dowling?
Yes he is
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Post by: cornetto on June 18, 2017, 12:33:00 AM
So the winners tonight
Laois
Sligo
Derry
longford

drawn against

Meath
Mayo
Clare
Loser tyrone/donegal


Title: Re: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: seafoid on June 18, 2017, 10:19:31 AM
Longford used to be a May thing. I think they could rattle Meath.
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Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 18, 2017, 01:55:24 PM
Can Derry get Tyrone again?
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Post by: Keyser soze on June 18, 2017, 03:59:52 PM
Can Derry get Tyrone again?

No.  ;D
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Post by: Jinxy on June 18, 2017, 08:33:10 PM
Well lads, how're things?
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Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 18, 2017, 08:47:38 PM
*stroking cat*

Hello Mr Jinxy....we've been expecting you!
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Post by: magpie seanie on June 18, 2017, 08:58:32 PM
Sending off for Antrim was a turning point for 2 reason

1) Antrim down to 14
2) give us a chance to. Ring on a fast player Kyle Cawley to replace a injured Mark Breheny.

I hope Mark is okay. It I think he should be a sub for the next day, once sligo played fast direc football they were unstoppable.

Don't know why Kevin McDonnell didn't start .


Absolutely no defensible reason for this. And the ongoing joke selection of keeper almost cost us. Thankfully Antrim shot themselves in the foot with the sending off. Frustrating to have this going on because I think we could be decent of the team was picked properly with some sort of tactics and gameplan.

Mayo in Castlebar the next day, wait till you see.
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Post by: Main Street on June 18, 2017, 10:26:37 PM
Well. I spose it's hard to prove intent - only the player knows this - but it was kicked with such force and direction that it look pretty intentional. Hard to know hoe this will pan out but it looks like his summer is over.

BTW I forgot to say the reason the ref had his back turned was because he was busy sending on another Louth lad!
It could be a new one for the CCCC.
If the Louth player had intended to hit the umpire with the ball, then he surely would have missed the target.
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Post by: Jinxy on June 18, 2017, 10:35:25 PM
*stroking cat*

Hello Mr Jinxy....we've been expecting you!

I bet we get Laois.
We always get Laois.
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Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 18, 2017, 10:52:56 PM
*stroking cat*

Hello Mr Jinxy....we've been expecting you!

I bet we get Laois.
We always get Laois.

It's been 25 or so years since Longford faced Meath (a hammering) so perhaps we are due a game. The only home game we've a chance of hosting in Longford would be Clare. Rest would have to be in neutral.
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Post by: Owenmoresider on June 18, 2017, 11:22:43 PM
Sending off for Antrim was a turning point for 2 reason

1) Antrim down to 14
2) give us a chance to. Ring on a fast player Kyle Cawley to replace a injured Mark Breheny.

I hope Mark is okay. It I think he should be a sub for the next day, once sligo played fast direc football they were unstoppable.

Don't know why Kevin McDonnell didn't start .


Absolutely no defensible reason for this. And the ongoing joke selection of keeper almost cost us. Thankfully Antrim shot themselves in the foot with the sending off. Frustrating to have this going on because I think we could be decent of the team was picked properly with some sort of tactics and gameplan.

Mayo in Castlebar the next day, wait till you see.
It beggars belief, let in a ridiculously soft goal and was damned lucky not to give away another in the first half, our best keeper is beyond in the States and probably the next best walked off the panel, mind you if you were sitting on the bench for that clown you'd wonder why bother. It almost makes one pine for the somewhat more moderate hopelessness of Fizzy. McDonnell not starting was a mystery and it was only McHugh's unfortunate injury that let him in for any decent run of it, has to start the next day.

The sending off worked for us well in that aside from them going down a man, Breheny's withdrawal let Kyle Cawley in and he injected a good deal more pace into the attack and caused them problems. In fairness there are far harder defences to break down than Antrim's but the scoring in the second half was impressive in any case. A decent manager and there might be something to work with there for sure.
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Post by: SCFC on June 19, 2017, 12:04:16 AM
*stroking cat*

Hello Mr Jinxy....we've been expecting you!

I bet we get Laois.
We always get Laois.
If he can't beat the current Laois team, ye should consider disbanding your football team.
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Post by: Owenmoresider on June 19, 2017, 08:45:48 AM
Meath v Sligo
Mayo v Derry
Donegal v Longford
Laois v Clare
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Post by: highorlow on June 19, 2017, 08:47:20 AM
Mayo v Derry, Castlebar.

If changes aren't made they will do to us what Fermanagh failed to do last year. AOS needs to start this game in FF with Loftus or Regan playing off him. Cillian needs to stay inside also.

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Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 19, 2017, 09:15:45 AM
Well, we drew the short straw  :'(

A hoor of a trip up to Ballybofey where we lost before in the AIQs to Donegal. 2006 or thereabouts.
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Post by: armaghniac on June 19, 2017, 09:35:02 AM
Well, we drew the short straw  :'(

A hoor of a trip up to Ballybofey where we lost before in the AIQs to Donegal. 2006 or thereabouts.

Well the weather may be sunny  8)
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Post by: Mano on June 19, 2017, 10:57:41 AM
Sending off for Antrim was a turning point for 2 reason

1) Antrim down to 14
2) give us a chance to. Ring on a fast player Kyle Cawley to replace a injured Mark Breheny.

I hope Mark is okay. It I think he should be a sub for the next day, once sligo played fast direc football they were unstoppable.

Don't know why Kevin McDonnell didn't start .


Absolutely no defensible reason for this. And the ongoing joke selection of keeper almost cost us. Thankfully Antrim shot themselves in the foot with the sending off. Frustrating to have this going on because I think we could be decent of the team was picked properly with some sort of tactics and gameplan.

Mayo in Castlebar the next day, wait till you see.
It beggars belief, let in a ridiculously soft goal and was damned lucky not to give away another in the first half, our best keeper is beyond in the States and probably the next best walked off the panel, mind you if you were sitting on the bench for that clown you'd wonder why bother. It almost makes one pine for the somewhat more moderate hopelessness of Fizzy.

No need for the personalised attack Owenmoresider. The lad makes the sacrifices to play for his county like all the others. He has a well documented weakness under the high ball but is a good shot stopper and his kickouts are decent. Its hardly his fault that the Coolera keeper is in the States and the backup keeper decided to go travelling.

Meath the next game will be a very difficult assignment. They looked very poor against Kildare especially at midfield and fullback line. If we can keep Graham Reilly quiet like Kildare did we may a chance.
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Post by: cornetto on June 19, 2017, 11:12:05 AM
Meath v Sligo
Mayo v Derry
Donegal v Longford
Laois v Clare

Interesting enough of a draw but can't see any shocks forthcoming.
meath,mayo,donegal,clare
Next round should be interesting though.!!
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Post by: J70 on June 19, 2017, 11:54:12 AM
Well, we drew the short straw  :'(

A hoor of a trip up to Ballybofey where we lost before in the AIQs to Donegal. 2006 or thereabouts.

Didn't you go over to Clones and beat Monaghan last year?

Rory Gallagher has a massive task on his hands after yesterday. Donegal could be out for blood (figuratively!) or they also be nervous and unsure as f**k, both in themselves AND the manager.

I do remember us playing you in 2003 after a similarly demoralizing non-performance against Fermanagh and our win in Ballybofey kick-starting a run to the AI semis. That was an experienced team though, and we got a relatively favourable run of Sligo, Tipp and Down before Galway in the quarters.
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Post by: Taylor on June 19, 2017, 12:03:13 PM
Looks like Sligo played 7 subs yesterday.

Rules state they should lose thee game - or will Antrim kindly offer a replay like Armagh did v Laois last year?

Rules are rules so it could be Meath v Antrim
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Post by: sligoman2 on June 19, 2017, 12:13:05 PM
Well if we did play 7 subs then it's inexcusable.  There's an army of people on the line, can nobody count?

The subs I recall are
Laffey
Henry
McDonnell
Cawley
O kelly Lynch
Did Gilmartin come on?

Who else am I missing

Best case we have a replay next week in Belfast
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Post by: Owenmoresider on June 19, 2017, 12:19:20 PM
Well if we did play 7 subs then it's inexcusable.  There's an army of people on the line, can nobody count?

The subs I recall are
Laffey
Henry
McDonnell
Cawley
O kelly Lynch
Did Gilmartin come on?

Who else am I missing

Best case we have a replay next week in Belfast
Gilmartin came in alright and so did Cummins. A farce worthy of our setup.
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Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 19, 2017, 12:22:52 PM
Well, we drew the short straw  :'(

A hoor of a trip up to Ballybofey where we lost before in the AIQs to Donegal. 2006 or thereabouts.

Didn't you go over to Clones and beat Monaghan last year?

Rory Gallagher has a massive task on his hands after yesterday. Donegal could be out for blood (figuratively!) or they also be nervous and unsure as f**k, both in themselves AND the manager.

I do remember us playing you in 2003 after a similarly demoralizing non-performance against Fermanagh and our win in Ballybofey kick-starting a run to the AI semis. That was an experienced team though, and we got a relatively favourable run of Sligo, Tipp and Down before Galway in the quarters.

Ach J70 - was it 2003. I remember getting stuck behind an aul wan going to mass so I missed the throw in.

I know we pulled off a shock last year but we cannot keep doing it. Our best forward may be missing (2 sendings off in the recent past) and we were already a little lighter than last year in scoring power. But I hope to get there and shout and roar encouragement Shur, that's what it's all about.
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Post by: T Fearon on June 19, 2017, 12:29:50 PM
Gearoid Adams demands the Sligo manager must step down before Antrim will return to the All Ireland engagement
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Post by: Owenmoresider on June 19, 2017, 12:33:30 PM
Sending off for Antrim was a turning point for 2 reason

1) Antrim down to 14
2) give us a chance to. Ring on a fast player Kyle Cawley to replace a injured Mark Breheny.

I hope Mark is okay. It I think he should be a sub for the next day, once sligo played fast direc football they were unstoppable.

Don't know why Kevin McDonnell didn't start .


Absolutely no defensible reason for this. And the ongoing joke selection of keeper almost cost us. Thankfully Antrim shot themselves in the foot with the sending off. Frustrating to have this going on because I think we could be decent of the team was picked properly with some sort of tactics and gameplan.

Mayo in Castlebar the next day, wait till you see.
It beggars belief, let in a ridiculously soft goal and was damned lucky not to give away another in the first half, our best keeper is beyond in the States and probably the next best walked off the panel, mind you if you were sitting on the bench for that clown you'd wonder why bother. It almost makes one pine for the somewhat more moderate hopelessness of Fizzy.

No need for the personalised attack Owenmoresider. The lad makes the sacrifices to play for his county like all the others. He has a well documented weakness under the high ball but is a good shot stopper and his kickouts are decent. Its hardly his fault that the Coolera keeper is in the States and the backup keeper decided to go travelling.

Meath the next game will be a very difficult assignment. They looked very poor against Kildare especially at midfield and fullback line. If we can keep Graham Reilly quiet like Kildare did we may a chance.
Yes lots of players make those sacrifices no more than him, but surely after 3/4 years it's obvious he is still a liability, whatever about the one he let in, standing and looking at that ball bouncing up and off the post in the first half was ridiculous, luckily one of the backs (Donovan?) got in the way of the Antrim forward pouncing on the rebound. Making one or two heroic saves are all well and good when you're then giving away such sloppy goals, Greene used to make a few of those saves too but it hardly masked his other failings. And saying the kickouts are decent is a little generous, better than 2015 maybe but that's hardly a bar you'd want to be setting. Naturally he doesn't but the manager might well have some culpability about the absentee keepers you refer to.
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Post by: Mano on June 19, 2017, 01:11:37 PM
Sending off for Antrim was a turning point for 2 reason

1) Antrim down to 14
2) give us a chance to. Ring on a fast player Kyle Cawley to replace a injured Mark Breheny.

I hope Mark is okay. It I think he should be a sub for the next day, once sligo played fast direc football they were unstoppable.

Don't know why Kevin McDonnell didn't start .


Absolutely no defensible reason for this. And the ongoing joke selection of keeper almost cost us. Thankfully Antrim shot themselves in the foot with the sending off. Frustrating to have this going on because I think we could be decent of the team was picked properly with some sort of tactics and gameplan.

Mayo in Castlebar the next day, wait till you see.
It beggars belief, let in a ridiculously soft goal and was damned lucky not to give away another in the first half, our best keeper is beyond in the States and probably the next best walked off the panel, mind you if you were sitting on the bench for that clown you'd wonder why bother. It almost makes one pine for the somewhat more moderate hopelessness of Fizzy.

No need for the personalised attack Owenmoresider. The lad makes the sacrifices to play for his county like all the others. He has a well documented weakness under the high ball but is a good shot stopper and his kickouts are decent. Its hardly his fault that the Coolera keeper is in the States and the backup keeper decided to go travelling.

Meath the next game will be a very difficult assignment. They looked very poor against Kildare especially at midfield and fullback line. If we can keep Graham Reilly quiet like Kildare did we may a chance.
Yes lots of players make those sacrifices no more than him, but surely after 3/4 years it's obvious he is still a liability, whatever about the one he let in, standing and looking at that ball bouncing up and off the post in the first half was ridiculous, luckily one of the backs (Donovan?) got in the way of the Antrim forward pouncing on the rebound. Making one or two heroic saves are all well and good when you're then giving away such sloppy goals, Greene used to make a few of those saves too but it hardly masked his other failings. And saying the kickouts are decent is a little generous, better than 2015 maybe but that's hardly a bar you'd want to be setting. Naturally he doesn't but the manager might well have some culpability about the absentee keepers you refer to.
No need to call the lad a clown though
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Post by: seafoid on June 19, 2017, 01:22:53 PM
Well, we drew the short straw  :'(

A hoor of a trip up to Ballybofey where we lost before in the AIQs to Donegal. 2006 or thereabouts.
Tough assignment alright but the Larries have faced steep odds in the past and beaten them off the pitch.
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Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 19, 2017, 02:10:55 PM
Good stuff Seafoid. We do out best to represent the little lads.

As for Sligo. I do agree some of the comments on the goalie are harsh but that's as much as I will say. But as for the 7 subs. Well, then the word "clown" is not harsh for the officials. There are enough goms with clipboards on the sideline to realise when 6 subs are used.

Ok - the precedence is set from last year in that there is a replay. Sligo will be lucky to get out of Corrigan Park unless Antrim players in the 24 hours have committed to the States to holidays etc.
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Post by: T Fearon on June 19, 2017, 02:29:06 PM
Last year,Armagh had to return to Laois for the replay,so I imagine Antrim will have to go back to Sligo
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Post by: Hardy on June 19, 2017, 02:58:40 PM
We'll be keeping a close eye on shifty sideline skulduggery in Navan.

Might be our only chance.
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Post by: Hound on June 19, 2017, 03:04:37 PM
Last year,Armagh had to return to Laois for the replay,so I imagine Antrim will have to go back to Sligo

Sligo seem to be in the clear.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0619/883871-substitution-sligo/

Similar thing happened in the drawn All Ireland semi-final of 2015 between Dublin and Mayo.
Mick Fitzsimons came on for a bloodied Rory O'Carroll after about 5 minutes. Dublin made 6 more substitutions as technically Fitzsimons remained as a blood sub throughout.

Dublin were just going to stick with 6 subs altogether. But someone got a black card (Bastick I think) with a few minutes to go, and given it was very tight Dubs needed all hands to the pump. Sideline official assured them they could use the 7th sub, so they did.

Nothing about it in the media at the time, even though all the papers listed the 7 subs. Maybe because it was a draw. Or maybe because most people know the rule (I remember at the time being petrified we'd be thrown out as I was sure we'd broken the rule, but apparently not!)

It seems to be a ridiculous rule. There should be a formal way of converting a blood sub to a permanent sub.
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Post by: T Fearon on June 19, 2017, 03:06:52 PM
Surely Gerry Adams,for the sake of his son,will demand a replay as a condition to reviving Stormont
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Post by: seafoid on June 19, 2017, 03:11:38 PM
Maigh Eo v Doire is a forestry issue 
Doire should be stronger.
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Post by: Jinxy on June 19, 2017, 05:52:41 PM
We owe Sligo one.
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Post by: joemamas on June 19, 2017, 06:21:29 PM
We owe Sligo one.

One what ?
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Post by: thejuice on June 19, 2017, 06:24:26 PM
Any idea when we last met Sligo in the championship? I have a vague memory of us playing in the qualifiers sometime possibly under Boylan or Eamon Barry. Doesn't happen often. Before then I don't think our paths crossed in my lifetime.
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Post by: magpie seanie on June 19, 2017, 06:25:25 PM
I thought it was more recent than that and we got a good trimming in Navan. I wasn't at it but think it wasn't close.
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Post by: thejuice on June 19, 2017, 06:38:09 PM
A quick look on Wikipedia suggests we never met in the qualifiers. We played the Rossies a few times. Must have been in the league the most recent games.
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Post by: Hardy on June 19, 2017, 06:55:10 PM
25 February 2007, NFL Div. 3 in Sligo may me the last meeting. Meath won - don't know the score.
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=1758.msg50935#msg50935 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=1758.msg50935#msg50935)
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Post by: Ball Hopper on June 19, 2017, 07:38:33 PM
Div 2 NFL 2011...

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/farrell-pounces-early-to-kickstart-royal-stroll-26706704.html
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Post by: Owenmoresider on June 19, 2017, 08:05:13 PM
We met in 2013 in Navan. Was the worst example of our bizarre form of that year, were about 2-9 to 0-3 up before half time. Lost 1-17 to 2-12...
http://www.meathchronicle.ie/news/roundup/articles/2013/03/16/4014974-meath-sligo-take-the-points-at-pirc-tilteann/ (http://www.meathchronicle.ie/news/roundup/articles/2013/03/16/4014974-meath-sligo-take-the-points-at-pirc-tilteann/)
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Post by: macdanger2 on June 19, 2017, 08:10:21 PM

It seems to be a ridiculous rule. There should be a formal way of converting a blood sub to a permanent sub.

It seems to be a completely ridiculous rule which would potentially open to abuse. Once the blood has stopped, the player should either go back on or count as a sub.
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Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 19, 2017, 09:12:54 PM
Carew will be on the phone to Ronan Sweeney right away to get whatever tactical advice he can ahead of the Meath game. If Meath aren't up for it they will get caught.
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Post by: Jinxy on June 19, 2017, 10:10:40 PM
We're planning a two-hour warm-up for this one.
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Post by: From the Bunker on June 19, 2017, 11:05:40 PM
If I was Meath I'd convert mobile Half backs into forwards! What they need is faster forwards.
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Post by: AZOffaly on June 20, 2017, 01:45:42 PM
Why in the name of Jaysus is the Offaly-Cavan game and the Armagh-Fermanagh game on at half 6 on a SUNDAY evening? I can't ever remember an inter county game at that time...
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Post by: J70 on June 20, 2017, 02:34:04 PM
Why in the name of Jaysus is the Offaly-Cavan game and the Armagh-Fermanagh game on at half 6 on a SUNDAY evening? I can't ever remember an inter county game at that time...

Says something about the GAA's attitude towards these games. Must not care too much how many supporters show up.
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Post by: AZOffaly on June 20, 2017, 02:40:38 PM
Why in the name of Jaysus is the Offaly-Cavan game and the Armagh-Fermanagh game on at half 6 on a SUNDAY evening? I can't ever remember an inter county game at that time...

Says something about the GAA's attitude towards these games. Must not care too much how many supporters show up.

I was looking forward to going to it but I don't think I can now. I wouldn't be back in Tipp before 10pm on a Sunday night with a young lad with me.
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Post by: Cearnog Liathroid on June 20, 2017, 03:04:08 PM
Féile Peil na nÓg is taking place this weekend in Fermanagh, Cavan & Monaghan this weekend. Many clubs will be hosting matches & teams until mid Sunday afternoon, and supporters would be unable to attend until Sunday evening.
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Post by: tonto1888 on June 20, 2017, 03:07:04 PM
Its Cemetery Sunday in St Colmans in Lurgan at 5 this Sunday. Leaves some supporters with a difficult choice to make
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Post by: magpie seanie on June 20, 2017, 05:14:46 PM
Sending off for Antrim was a turning point for 2 reason

1) Antrim down to 14
2) give us a chance to. Ring on a fast player Kyle Cawley to replace a injured Mark Breheny.

I hope Mark is okay. It I think he should be a sub for the next day, once sligo played fast direc football they were unstoppable.

Don't know why Kevin McDonnell didn't start .


Absolutely no defensible reason for this. And the ongoing joke selection of keeper almost cost us. Thankfully Antrim shot themselves in the foot with the sending off. Frustrating to have this going on because I think we could be decent of the team was picked properly with some sort of tactics and gameplan.

Mayo in Castlebar the next day, wait till you see.
It beggars belief, let in a ridiculously soft goal and was damned lucky not to give away another in the first half, our best keeper is beyond in the States and probably the next best walked off the panel, mind you if you were sitting on the bench for that clown you'd wonder why bother. It almost makes one pine for the somewhat more moderate hopelessness of Fizzy.

No need for the personalised attack Owenmoresider. The lad makes the sacrifices to play for his county like all the others. He has a well documented weakness under the high ball but is a good shot stopper and his kickouts are decent. Its hardly his fault that the Coolera keeper is in the States and the backup keeper decided to go travelling.

Meath the next game will be a very difficult assignment. They looked very poor against Kildare especially at midfield and fullback line. If we can keep Graham Reilly quiet like Kildare did we may a chance.
Yes lots of players make those sacrifices no more than him, but surely after 3/4 years it's obvious he is still a liability, whatever about the one he let in, standing and looking at that ball bouncing up and off the post in the first half was ridiculous, luckily one of the backs (Donovan?) got in the way of the Antrim forward pouncing on the rebound. Making one or two heroic saves are all well and good when you're then giving away such sloppy goals, Greene used to make a few of those saves too but it hardly masked his other failings. And saying the kickouts are decent is a little generous, better than 2015 maybe but that's hardly a bar you'd want to be setting. Naturally he doesn't but the manager might well have some culpability about the absentee keepers you refer to.
No need to call the lad a clown though


Yeah, you're right but I understand the frustration. It's an obvious one that's been going on for a long time. Carew is the clown.
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Post by: magpie seanie on June 20, 2017, 05:17:03 PM
Carew will be on the phone to Ronan Sweeney right away to get whatever tactical advice he can ahead of the Meath game. If Meath aren't up for it they will get caught.


Tactics? What are they?

If we had a gameplay and our team picked correctly I'd give us a good chance of winning this game. Unfortunately we haven't got anything resembling the first and the evidence thus far wouldn't inspire confidence in the second.
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Post by: Jinxy on June 20, 2017, 06:35:51 PM
If I was Meath I'd convert mobile Half backs into forwards! What they need is faster forwards.

Our forwards are plenty fast.
They're too bloody small though.
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Post by: seafoid on June 20, 2017, 08:32:24 PM
If I was Meath I'd convert mobile Half backs into forwards! What they need is faster forwards.

Our forwards are plenty fast.
They're too bloody small though.
Unbelievable modesty
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Post by: stevecw on June 21, 2017, 12:47:55 AM
This weekends qualifiers, which include 2 at 6.30 on Sunday for some mad reason!

Limerick v Wexford
London v Carlow
Offaly v Cavan
Armagh v Fermanagh

Predict:
Wexford
Carlow
Cavan
Armagh
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Post by: omagh_gael on June 22, 2017, 10:46:20 AM
Thought i'd fire up some of my observations on the Ulster/Leinster side of the draw/qualifiers:

Ulster/Leinster

Winners


Meets round 4b qualifier in the quarter final on the 05/08/17 alongside the Leinster champions QF who also meet a team from the 'B' side of the draw (more than likely will be a double header with Dublin in Croker).

(teams in the 'B' side include Leitrim, London, Carlow, Wexford, Westmeath, Offaly, Clare, Limerick , Tipperary, Down, Armagh, Cavan, Monaghan, Fermanagh)

As the winner of the Ulster final can't meet their Ulster final opponents in the QF they will meet the Leinster runner up (assuming they win their round4 qualifier). The form book at this stage means the Ulster QF could be Tyrone/Monaghan/Down v Kildare.

Losers

The loser of the Ulster final will be out again on the 29/07/17 against a round 3b winner from the teams above. The Leinster loser will also fall into the 'B' side of the draw. Therefore, the loser of the Ulster final (assuming they get through round 4 of the qualifiers will more than likely meet Dublin in a QF as they can't meet the Ulster final winner).

My prediction is:

Ulster final - Tyrone v Monaghan (Tyrone to win, of course!)

Leinster final - Dublin v Kildare (Dubs to win

R4 Qualifier

Kildare v AN other (Kildare to win)

Monaghan v AN other (Monaghan to win)

Quarter finals

Tyrone v Kildare

Dublin v Monaghan

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Connacht/Munster

Winners

Winners of this side of the draw will play R4 winners in the QF on the 29/07/17. This is definitely the harder side of the draw in that these teams will meet qualifier 'A' teams which already include the big guns of Mayo and Donegal. The teams in the provincial finals will be hoping to see Mayo and Donegal pulled out to play eachother in round 3 of the qualifiers (assuming they both win, of course) so at least one big threat is eliminated. The rest of the country will want to see them avoid eachother so they can set up some tasty QFs.

Other teams in (or potentially in) the 'A' side include Sligo, Laois, Longford, Meath, Galway, Roscommon, Mayo, Donegal, Derry, Cork and Kerry.

Losers

The provincial final losers will be out on the on the 22/07/17 against a 3a winner. Looking at the 'A' side there could be some real clinkers coming up over the next number of weeks. A huge difference in quality between both sides of the draw. I remember this happening last year too.

My predictions for the 'A' side of the draw as follows:

Munster: Kerry v Cork (Kerry to win)

Connacht: Ros v Galway (Galway to win)

Round 4a

Roscommon v Mayo

Cork v Donegal

Quarter finals

Mayo v Kerry

Donegal v Galway

On a slightly different note there would be some games if this was the 2018 championship and the super 8s were as follows:

Dublin
Tyrone
Kerry
Galway
Donegal
Mayo
Kildare
Monaghan
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Post by: cornetto on June 25, 2017, 07:30:21 AM
I see malachy o rourke saying they will regroup for the qualifiers, easier said than done.Monaghan are one of those teams that just don't do qualifiers,it's definitely a mental thing,Galway negotiated the qualifiers route in 2001 but have not performed since.Personally I think the players are physced up for a provincial match,if they fail, the hangover from the loss just seems to get the better of some teams.could we have a repeat of Monaghan v Cavan in rd 3b? It would be cavan for me!!
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Post by: Rossfan on June 25, 2017, 10:59:53 AM
Another one if the great clichés if the GAA
"Regroup for the Qualifiers".
You'd think the game was 6 months away.

Its looking like this Monaghan team has passed it's "best before" date.
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Post by: omagh_gael on June 25, 2017, 11:12:57 AM
The 'B' side of the draw looking very tasty now:

Monaghan could meet either Donegal or Mayo in the next round then round 3 also throws up the possibility of either of those three big guns meeting again.
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Post by: Rossfan on June 25, 2017, 11:18:37 AM
Donegal and Mayowestros in the A section
Monaghan in B.
It will be Monaghan, Leitrim Tipp and likely Westmeath
V
Wexford, Offaly/Cavan, Armagh/Fermanagh and London/Carlow.
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Post by: Blowitupref on June 25, 2017, 01:40:52 PM
HT in Ruislip, London 0-5 Carlow 0-7. Wide count London 4 Carlow 3.
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Post by: Schkite on June 25, 2017, 01:52:59 PM
Another one if the great clichés if the GAA
"Regroup for the Qualifiers".
You'd think the game was 6 months away.

Its looking like this Monaghan team has passed it's "best before" date.

I don't buy that at all. Yes we were pure shit yesterday, but with the exception of Vinny and Dessie our whole panel is 30 and under. Not saying we're going to make a run at Sam any time soon but I don't see us regressing badly like after 2010 for example. Still a good team there but they need to get the heads right on days like yesterday.
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Post by: Blowitupref on June 25, 2017, 02:27:41 PM
60 mins gone London 0-10 Carlow 0-12
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Post by: Blowitupref on June 25, 2017, 02:39:38 PM
FT London 0-12 Carlow 0-13.
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Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 25, 2017, 08:52:04 PM
Pat Flanagan probably finished in Offaly now, has consolidated in division 3 but can't take them any further.

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Post by: timmyot501 on June 25, 2017, 11:00:07 PM
Is it a total open draw tomorrow. Can monaghan draw cavan again then?
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Post by: hardstation on June 25, 2017, 11:15:52 PM
Answers in order.
No.
Yes.
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Post by: Rossfan on June 26, 2017, 02:30:28 AM
Wexford v Monaghan hopefully.
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Post by: The Subbie on June 26, 2017, 08:10:41 AM
Another one if the great clichés if the GAA
"Regroup for the Qualifiers".
You'd think the game was 6 months away.

Its looking like this Monaghan team has passed it's "best before" date.

I don't buy that at all. Yes we were pure shit yesterday, but with the exception of Vinny and Dessie our whole panel is 30 and under. Not saying we're going to make a run at Sam any time soon but I don't see us regressing badly like after 2010 for example. Still a good team there but they need to get the heads right on days like yesterday.

Or in other words stop swanning about the place looking for where the next Standard photographer is and start preparing.
It just goes to show how naive these fellas are that they discounted Down as a mere irritation on the road to Clones.
The qualifiers is injun country , as well we know , and if we can't motivate ourselves for that I don't know.
This will surely be O'Rourkes final fling, I wouldn't blame him for walking away.
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Post by: armaghniac on June 26, 2017, 08:46:53 AM
Wexford v Monaghan hopefully.

They heard you.
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Post by: tippabu on June 26, 2017, 08:58:00 AM
Bollix, worst draw possible
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Post by: Orior on June 26, 2017, 08:58:46 AM
GAA Football All-Ireland Senior Championship Round 2B draw in full:
Wexford-Monaghan
Cavan-Tipperary
Carlow-Leitrim
Westmeath-Armagh
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Post by: tommysmith on June 26, 2017, 09:01:15 AM
Bollix, worst draw possible

You have every chance.
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Post by: AZOffaly on June 26, 2017, 09:03:46 AM
My thoughts too. Cavan away without MQ. Could be a short summer.
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Post by: Schkite on June 26, 2017, 09:05:16 AM
I'd say Banty can't wait to welcome us down to Wexford! We better be up for that game because he'll have those lads ready to run through walls.
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Post by: The Subbie on June 26, 2017, 09:09:09 AM
I'd say Banty can't wait to welcome us down to Wexford! We better be up for that game because he'll have those lads ready to run through walls.
The empty the tank speech Championship 2017 version , is being penned by candlelight in a cave in Corduff at this very minute.
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Post by: illdecide on June 26, 2017, 09:36:23 AM
Mullingar should be great craic, I'd say a there will be a big crowd from Armagh heading to the Midlands.
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Post by: the goal was on on June 26, 2017, 10:10:41 AM
having the draw on radio surely creates the impression of a rigged draw or am I just too cynical! Is there a video of the draw anywhere just to see those big logs being mixed around before picking them out!!
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Post by: BennyCake on June 26, 2017, 10:16:30 AM
having the draw on radio surely creates the impression of a rigged draw or am I just too cynical! Is there a video of the draw anywhere just to see those big logs being mixed around before picking them out!!

Yes I'd agree. It's easier to put the required balls on the radiator to heat them up.

Not only that, but it shows a disrespect for qualifier teams, most who are lower division teams. You can be sure the super 8's won't be drawn on the radio!
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Post by: AZOffaly on June 26, 2017, 10:18:51 AM
having the draw on radio surely creates the impression of a rigged draw or am I just too cynical! Is there a video of the draw anywhere just to see those big logs being mixed around before picking them out!!

Yeah, it was on RTE News Now on TV. I watched it.
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Post by: lurganblue on June 26, 2017, 10:19:19 AM
having the draw on radio surely creates the impression of a rigged draw or am I just too cynical! Is there a video of the draw anywhere just to see those big logs being mixed around before picking them out!!

Yes I'd agree. It's easier to put the required balls on the radiator to heat them up.

Not only that, but it shows a disrespect for qualifier teams, most who are lower division teams. You can be sure the super 8's won't be drawn on the radio!

No reason it couldnt be done at the end of the sunday game fs
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Post by: straightred on June 26, 2017, 10:27:47 AM
having the draw on radio surely creates the impression of a rigged draw or am I just too cynical! Is there a video of the draw anywhere just to see those big logs being mixed around before picking them out!!

It was on RTE News Now as far as I know
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Post by: AZOffaly on June 26, 2017, 10:32:27 AM
having the draw on radio surely creates the impression of a rigged draw or am I just too cynical! Is there a video of the draw anywhere just to see those big logs being mixed around before picking them out!!

It was on RTE News Now as far as I know

Yep, As I just said, I watched it there :) It was like a Two Johnnies sketch.
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Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 26, 2017, 10:33:44 AM
having the draw on radio surely creates the impression of a rigged draw or am I just too cynical! Is there a video of the draw anywhere just to see those big logs being mixed around before picking them out!!

It was on RTE News Now as far as I know

Yep, As I just said, I watched it there :) It was like a Two Johnnies sketch.

Did you see the warm hamsters limbering up on the side?
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Post by: AZOffaly on June 26, 2017, 10:38:09 AM
https://www.facebook.com/the2johnniesareclass/videos/195694414176563/?hc_ref=SEARCH (https://www.facebook.com/the2johnniesareclass/videos/195694414176563/?hc_ref=SEARCH)
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Post by: Itchy on June 26, 2017, 10:52:35 AM
I'd say Banty can't wait to welcome us down to Wexford! We better be up for that game because he'll have those lads ready to run through walls.
The empty the tank speech Championship 2017 version , is being penned by candlelight in a cave in Corduff at this very minute.

Quote of the season over on hoganstand

"Banty goes native"

Such visions that puts in my head!
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Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 26, 2017, 11:26:31 AM
Banty Bliss  :-\
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Post by: yellowcard on June 26, 2017, 11:31:09 AM
Plenty of cliches wheeled out from the banty the next day.

'Empty the tank'
'Shoulder to the wheel'
'Listen boys, let's give every last drop of blood'
'Believe you me, we will give it 150%'
'
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Post by: Avondhu star on June 26, 2017, 12:27:17 PM
having the draw on radio surely creates the impression of a rigged draw or am I just too cynical! Is there a video of the draw anywhere just to see those big logs being mixed around before picking them out!!

Yes I'd agree. It's easier to put the required balls on the radiator to heat them up.

Not only that, but it shows a disrespect for qualifier teams, most who are lower division teams. You can be sure the super 8's won't be drawn on the radio!

No reason it couldnt be done at the end of the sunday game fs

Its about raising the profile of the games. If it wasnt on this morning RTE  would fill in with 5 minutes of shite from the Lions camp
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Post by: Taylor on June 26, 2017, 12:41:25 PM
4/9 Carlow Leitrim 9/4
1/2 Cavan Tipp 2/1
9/4 WMeath Armagh 4/9
11/2 Wexford Monaghan 1/7

Carlow, WMeath + points and Monaghan minus look tasty
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Post by: Main Street on June 26, 2017, 12:50:17 PM
 Banty and McElkennon were a very positive influence on Monaghan county football in those dark times of div 4 stagnancy and I have a lot of respect for him.
Since Banty departed, Monaghan have been mostly poor in the qualifiers, handing Offaly a very rare championship win one year, beaten by Laos another year and then some other team last year.
Anything can happen this year in Wexford.





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Post by: cornetto on June 26, 2017, 12:52:21 PM
Cavan and tipp will be close encounter two good teams who will run all day.tipp should have a few of their injured players back,quilivan? Home advantage could swing this cavans way,but don't underestimate tipp like we did in galway last year!!
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Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 26, 2017, 01:10:20 PM
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and then some other team last year.

 ;D

C'mon Main Street - get it out. No sense bottling it up. Lance that boil!
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Post by: Maroon Manc on June 26, 2017, 01:12:01 PM
I see Limerick v Kilkenny is on SKY on Saturday at 7pm, have RTE announced which game they'll cover at 5?

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Post by: Main Street on June 26, 2017, 01:19:58 PM
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and then some other team last year.

 ;D

C'mon Main Street - get it out. No sense bottling it up. Lance that boil!
Still in therapy, possibly the memory will be released when it's deemed that I'm strong enough to handle it.
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Post by: J70 on June 26, 2017, 01:21:39 PM
Banty and McElkennon were a very positive influence on Monaghan county football in those dark times of div 4 stagnancy and I have a lot of respect for him.
Since Banty departed, Monaghan have been mostly poor in the qualifiers, handing Offaly a very rare championship win one year, beaten by Laos another year and then some other team last year.
Anything can happen this year in Wexford.

Is it an attitude thing?

There's no way in hell that Monaghan should have been beaten by Longford last year, especially when Longford then limped out against Cork, whom Monaghan would very probably have beaten.

Although I would have said the same about Down beating Monaghan on Saturday. But at least with Down, they now have the opportunity to prove it wasn't just a case of them catching Monaghan on the hop.
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Post by: Owenmoresider on June 26, 2017, 01:23:50 PM
I see Limerick v Kilkenny is on SKY on Saturday at 7pm, have RTE announced which game they'll cover at 5?
Mayo Derry presumably.
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Post by: Schkite on June 26, 2017, 02:37:21 PM
Banty and McElkennon were a very positive influence on Monaghan county football in those dark times of div 4 stagnancy and I have a lot of respect for him.
Since Banty departed, Monaghan have been mostly poor in the qualifiers, handing Offaly a very rare championship win one year, beaten by Laos another year and then some other team last year.
Anything can happen this year in Wexford.

Is it an attitude thing?

There's no way in hell that Monaghan should have been beaten by Longford last year, especially when Longford then limped out against Cork, whom Monaghan would very probably have beaten.

Although I would have said the same about Down beating Monaghan on Saturday. But at least with Down, they now have the opportunity to prove it wasn't just a case of them catching Monaghan on the hop.

I think having the 2 tough games with Donegal then only a week to regroup for a game Longford team was a big factor, but there was definitely an attitude problem aswell. They must have been over confident and didn't prepare for a battle, and once Longford got on top our boys didn't have the appetite for a fight back. I'd hope that experience would guard against any sort of complacency but then I thought that for the Down game too!

It's a banana skin for our first qualifier, but if we can get over that hurdle I think we can get back to the quarter finals and give it a crack. But we need to have the stomach for the back door this time, we certainly didn't last year.
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Post by: Croí na hÉireann on June 26, 2017, 03:21:22 PM
*pokes head around door, shuffles up to bar

Pint of plain and a whiskey barman. Actually make that a double.

*glances left, then right

Well lads

*stares ahead
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Post by: AZOffaly on June 26, 2017, 03:24:10 PM
At least you're still drinking. We have to leave now. G'Luck.
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Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 26, 2017, 03:36:59 PM
*approaches sad lad in a Westmeath jersey at the bar to offer consolences*



*thinks better of it*



*quietly leaves*
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Post by: mrdeeds on June 26, 2017, 03:37:18 PM
At least you're still drinking. We have to leave now. G'Luck.

Why did McNamee not start? Jaysus he's a huge physical player.
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Post by: AZOffaly on June 26, 2017, 03:42:41 PM
In fairness he's played hardly any football for Offaly this year. I'd imagine 3 games in 3 weeks was stretching it for him.
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Post by: Cunny Funt on June 26, 2017, 03:59:03 PM
I see Limerick v Kilkenny is on SKY on Saturday at 7pm, have RTE announced which game they'll cover at 5?
Mayo Derry presumably.
Mayo v Derry confirmed for RTE coverage. Safe to say as long as Mayo are in the championship that all of their games will get live TV coverage.
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Post by: seafoid on June 26, 2017, 08:40:01 PM
Tipp are surely better than Cavan
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Post by: tippabu on June 26, 2017, 09:47:11 PM
Tipp are surely better than Cavan

Presently im going to say no. From last years team we dont have evan comerford in goal (suspended) and peter acheson (abroad) both all star nominees and both unlucky to miss out....quinlivan is almost certainly going to miss out on this too and we are down massive numbers in terms of injuries, even if we do have some of these back they are going to be thrown in at the deep end with little preparation or competitive play under their belts. We won division 3 this year which was amazing, I was at every match and we put together some spells where we played well but in the main our performances were really poor throughout. I honestly dont know how good cavan really are, im imagining they will up their level significantly for this game from the offaly one, different mentality from playing a team who just survived in division 3 this year to one who have a reputation after last year and winning division 3 this. Its a match ill be travelling to hoping cavan are worse than i thought or maybe we could reach a level we havent to date this year
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Post by: The Subbie on June 26, 2017, 10:27:24 PM
Banty and McElkennon were a very positive influence on Monaghan county football in those dark times of div 4 stagnancy and I have a lot of respect for him.
Since Banty departed, Monaghan have been mostly poor in the qualifiers, handing Offaly a very rare championship win one year, beaten by Laos another year and then some other team last year.
Anything can happen this year in Wexford.

Is it an attitude thing?

There's no way in hell that Monaghan should have been beaten by Longford last year, especially when Longford then limped out against Cork, whom Monaghan would very probably have beaten.

Although I would have said the same about Down beating Monaghan on Saturday. But at least with Down, they now have the opportunity to prove it wasn't just a case of them catching Monaghan on the hop.

I think having the 2 tough games with Donegal then only a week to regroup for a game Longford team was a big factor, but there was definitely an attitude problem aswell. They must have been over confident and didn't prepare for a battle, and once Longford got on top our boys didn't have the appetite for a fight back. I'd hope that experience would guard against any sort of complacency but then I thought that for the Down game too!

It's a banana skin for our first qualifier, but if we can get over that hurdle I think we can get back to the quarter finals and give it a crack. But we need to have the stomach for the back door this time, we certainly didn't last year.

Of course it's attitude.
In terms of time and €€€€ this is probably one of the best prepared county teams that Monaghan have ever sent out.
Then they make a balls of it.
Again.

The bit about been beat by Down is hard to take but good luck to them , they were the Bette team on the day.
The bit that I am more annoyed about is that investec are and have pumped a lot of money into the county and that is stArting to show in the crop of young players starting to come through.
To keep that good it we will need Investec to keep puming money in.

Do you honestly think Investec will want to associate their brand with a hapless bunch that don't mentally prepare and are a byword from for failure?
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Post by: Main Street on June 26, 2017, 10:32:23 PM
Banty and McElkennon were a very positive influence on Monaghan county football in those dark times of div 4 stagnancy and I have a lot of respect for him.
Since Banty departed, Monaghan have been mostly poor in the qualifiers, handing Offaly a very rare championship win one year, beaten by Laos another year and then some other team last year.
Anything can happen this year in Wexford.

Is it an attitude thing?

There's no way in hell that Monaghan should have been beaten by Longford last year, especially when Longford then limped out against Cork, whom Monaghan would very probably have beaten.

Although I would have said the same about Down beating Monaghan on Saturday. But at least with Down, they now have the opportunity to prove it wasn't just a case of them catching Monaghan on the hop.

I think having the 2 tough games with Donegal then only a week to regroup for a game Longford team was a big factor, but there was definitely an attitude problem aswell. They must have been over confident and didn't prepare for a battle, and once Longford got on top our boys didn't have the appetite for a fight back. I'd hope that experience would guard against any sort of complacency but then I thought that for the Down game too!

It's a banana skin for our first qualifier, but if we can get over that hurdle I think we can get back to the quarter finals and give it a crack. But we need to have the stomach for the back door this time, we certainly didn't last year.

Of course it's attitude.
In terms of time and €€€€ this is probably one of the best prepared county teams that Monaghan have ever sent out.
Then they make a balls of it.
Again.

The bit about been beat by Down is hard to take but good luck to them , they were the Bette team on the day.
The bit that I am more annoyed about is that investec are and have pumped a lot of money into the county and that is stArting to show in the crop of young players starting to come through.
To keep that good it we will need Investec to keep puming money in.

Do you honestly think Investec will want to associate their brand with a hapless bunch that don't mentally prepare and are a byword from for failure?

i'd agree it's attitude but I think the complacency card is played too often, a catch all reason why Monaghan have failed when strong favorites.
Banty had a good record at dragging the team off the floor after a failure and getting them focused on the next challenge.
Malachy has to do the same.

I wonder would Banty have preferred another team? ;D     Thnk fck Matty Forde has retired.
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Post by: Horse Box on June 26, 2017, 11:01:35 PM
Tipp are surely better than Cavan

Presently im going to say no. From last years team we dont have evan comerford in goal (suspended) and peter acheson (abroad) both all star nominees and both unlucky to miss out....quinlivan is almost certainly going to miss out on this too and we are down massive numbers in terms of injuries, even if we do have some of these back they are going to be thrown in at the deep end with little preparation or competitive play under their belts. We won division 3 this year which was amazing, I was at every match and we put together some spells where we played well but in the main our performances were really poor throughout. I honestly dont know how good cavan really are, im imagining they will up their level significantly for this game from the offaly one, different mentality from playing a team who just survived in division 3 this year to one who have a reputation after last year and winning division 3 this. Its a match ill be travelling to hoping cavan are worse than i thought or maybe we could reach a level we havent to date this year

Jack Kennedy , Willie Connors , Kevin Fahey are okay . Quinlivan and Ian Fahey could feature from what I hear , not all doom and gloom  8) !
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Post by: illdecide on June 27, 2017, 10:02:51 AM
Tipp are surely better than Cavan

With Quinlivan Tipp have a shout as the man is pure class but if he's not in the Tipp team I believe Cavan will win this game comfortable enough, Cavan are decent and will be hard to beat.
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Post by: tippabu on June 27, 2017, 10:05:40 AM
Tipp are surely better than Cavan

Presently im going to say no. From last years team we dont have evan comerford in goal (suspended) and peter acheson (abroad) both all star nominees and both unlucky to miss out....quinlivan is almost certainly going to miss out on this too and we are down massive numbers in terms of injuries, even if we do have some of these back they are going to be thrown in at the deep end with little preparation or competitive play under their belts. We won division 3 this year which was amazing, I was at every match and we put together some spells where we played well but in the main our performances were really poor throughout. I honestly dont know how good cavan really are, im imagining they will up their level significantly for this game from the offaly one, different mentality from playing a team who just survived in division 3 this year to one who have a reputation after last year and winning division 3 this. Its a match ill be travelling to hoping cavan are worse than i thought or maybe we could reach a level we havent to date this year

Jack Kennedy , Willie Connors , Kevin Fahey are okay . Quinlivan and Ian Fahey could feature from what I hear , not all doom and gloom  8) !

Austin too......dobt think quinlivan will be anywhere near ready, maybe last resort 10 minutes if needed. My big worry is these lads being thrown into a tough game without any real football under their belts, it's not easy to just turn it on and get back into the pace of it. Will take a serious performance but we are capable
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Post by: Croí na hÉireann on June 27, 2017, 10:06:09 AM
At least you're still drinking. We have to leave now. G'Luck.

Why did McNamee not start? Jaysus he's a huge physical player.

Was a fabulous player but doesn't have the legs anymore. A good option though when the pace of the game slows down towards the end.
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Post by: Itchy on June 27, 2017, 10:26:00 AM
At least you're still drinking. We have to leave now. G'Luck.

Why did McNamee not start? Jaysus he's a huge physical player.

He may not have been fit to start but he shouldve got more than 10 mins. A lad like him floating around FF/HF line looping around the back with the wind behind him couldve done serious damage
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Post by: seafoid on June 27, 2017, 11:55:21 AM
Carlos must be in with a great chance against Leitrim. That would give them at least 5 matches which would be some achievement for the county.
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Post by: Taylor on June 27, 2017, 11:58:07 AM
Carlos must be in with a great chance against Leitrim. That would give them at least 5 matches which would be some achievement for the county.

It would be a case of money well spent then considering their outlay this season
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Post by: tippabu on June 28, 2017, 10:16:47 AM
ALL-STAR FORWARD Michael Quinlivan will miss out on Tipperary’s All-Ireland SFC Round 2B qualifier clash with Cavan at Kingspan Breffni Park on Saturday week.

Coach/selector Shane Stapleton has confirmed that Quinlivan won’t have recovered in time from the ankle ligament damage sustained in the Munster semi-final loss to Cork – while corner back Shane O’Connell is also unavailable after he picked up a stress fracture in his foot in the same game.

On the plus side, midfielder Jack Kennedy is back in training while Kevin and Ian Fahey from Clonmel Commercials have resumed light work.

Emmett Moloney is also back in contention for a starting place but Willie Connors was injured on U21 hurling duty with Tipperary against Limerick last week, and is another absentee.

Tipperary’s backroom staff are also monitoring the fitness of Liam Casey, Robbie Kiely, Bill Maher and Liam Boland, who picked up knocks in the Cork game.

Stapleton explained that mentors have adopted a “cautious” approach with those four players, while former International Rules player Ciarán McDonald is a long-term casualty with a recurrence of his long-standing hip problems.

There’s also concern over former senior hurling panellist and 2016 All-Ireland winner Kieran Bergin, who hasn’t trained since the Cork game due to a hand infection.

Quinlivan’s loss during the Cork game was a fatal blow to Tipp’s chances of winning at Páirc Uí Rinn, as the team was deprived of a lethal forward option from the 19th minute.

As the hosts gained a firm stranglehold around the middle of the field in the second half, Quinlivan could also have provided a calming influence in this sector, with his high-fielding ability.

Stapleton explained: “Michael is the silent assassin. He doesn’t say a whole lot in the dressing room but when he does come up with something, it’s A1 and perfect stuff.

“He’s a big kick-out option and even if he’s not playing well, opponents will play two on him or a sweeper and change their team up to counteract him.

“We have to take it on the chin and if we could get a win against Cavan, he might make the next game.

“Hopefully his season won’t be over for us but we have quality there. Conor Sweeney is playing well and Liam Boland.

“We’ll put the shoulder to the wheel now and see if we can get four or five of the six forwards flying. If we do that, we’ll take stopping up there.”

Tipp’s trip to Cavan will revive memories of their famous qualifier victory over Derry at the same venue in last summer’s campaign.

But Stapleton admits that drawing Cavan on their home patch is a difficult task.

He said: “We expected it, to be honest, the way things were going.

“We nearly expected Armagh away, for a repeat of the promotion decider.

“We’re not surprised. At no stage did we think we’d get a home draw against one of the Division 4 sides, it’s just the way the year has gone.

“We knew we’d have another big challenge to face. It’s back up to where the journey was last year in Cavan. We have good memories from there and it might revive our season again.”
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Post by: tippabu on June 28, 2017, 10:17:36 AM
Above article highlights concerns and reasoning behind Cavan being such big favourites with bookies
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Post by: rosnarun on June 28, 2017, 10:48:01 AM
so  Quinlivan is definitely playing then
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Post by: Fuzzman on June 28, 2017, 02:59:44 PM
Just looking at the draw there and the 4th round could be a very interesting draw.
I'd say Monaghan, Cavan(sorry Tipp) and Armagh are the three strongest teams in the B side of the draw.
With 2 from them coming through to play the losers of Ulster and Leinster then the draw could be complicated with Down (who may or may not lose Ulster) have already played Armagh and Monaghan and so aren't meant to meet again but may have to.
However, I think Cavan, who were in Div 1 this year, would avoid Monaghan in round 3 and could make it through to round 4.

I can see round 4 draw looking like this
Kildare v Monaghan
Down v Cavan/Armagh

Of course Tyrone could lose the Ulster final and make it much easier for the draw.
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Post by: Main Street on June 28, 2017, 05:51:27 PM
Just looking at the draw there and the 4th round could be a very interesting draw.
I'd say Monaghan, Cavan(sorry Tipp) and Armagh are the three strongest teams in the B side of the draw.
With 2 from them coming through to play the losers of Ulster and Leinster then the draw could be complicated with Down (who may or may not lose Ulster) have already played Armagh and Monaghan and so aren't meant to meet again but may have to.
However, I think Cavan, who were in Div 1 this year, would avoid Monaghan in round 3 and could make it through to round 4.

I can see round 4 draw looking like this
Kildare v Monaghan
Down v Cavan/Armagh

Of course Tyrone could lose the Ulster final and make it much easier for the draw.
If Monaghan and Armagh prevail in the B side and Down are the beaten Ulster finalists,
then how would Down's opponent be selected?
Pistols at dawn, the long straw or alphabetically?

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Post by: Fuzzman on June 28, 2017, 05:57:24 PM
It would just be a straight forward draw with no interventions needed as they've played both already.
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Post by: Íseal agus crua isteach a on June 28, 2017, 06:04:46 PM
I'm taking a wild chance here. Not from Tyrone but following them for over 20 years. Booked tickets from Chicago to Dublin for family of four for the match on 5th August. Hoping that Tyrone will be playing that day. But I think if Dublin  win Leinster it will be down as a double header so I know its going to be all ticket. Now that could be a disaster getting a ticket if Dublin and Tyrone are on in the same day.
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Post by: Throw ball on June 28, 2017, 06:34:54 PM
Just looking at the draw there and the 4th round could be a very interesting draw.
I'd say Monaghan, Cavan(sorry Tipp) and Armagh are the three strongest teams in the B side of the draw.
With 2 from them coming through to play the losers of Ulster and Leinster then the draw could be complicated with Down (who may or may not lose Ulster) have already played Armagh and Monaghan and so aren't meant to meet again but may have to.
However, I think Cavan, who were in Div 1 this year, would avoid Monaghan in round 3 and could make it through to round 4.

I can see round 4 draw looking like this
Kildare v Monaghan
Down v Cavan/Armagh

Of course Tyrone could lose the Ulster final and make it much easier for the draw.
If Monaghan and Armagh prevail in the B side and Down are the beaten Ulster finalists,
then how would Down's opponent be selected?
Pistols at dawn, the long straw or alphabetically?

If Armagh get that far I wouldn't complain.

Would love to see them play Down again though.
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Post by: macdanger2 on June 28, 2017, 07:02:43 PM
I don't think there are any restrictions at the provincial loser (4th) round of the draw - say mayo were to make it through and Galway and cork were the provincial losers, there'd be nothing to stop us drawing galway AFAIK??
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Post by: Main Street on June 28, 2017, 07:12:06 PM
I don't think there are any restrictions at the provincial loser (4th) round of the draw - say mayo were to make it through and Galway and cork were the provincial losers, there'd be nothing to stop us drawing galway AFAIK??
"Round 4 rules do not allow two teams that have played each other in a provincial match to meet again if such a pairing can be avoided"
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Post by: macdanger2 on June 28, 2017, 07:14:03 PM
I stand corrected. Didn't realise that
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Post by: Maroon Manc on June 28, 2017, 07:14:54 PM
I don't think there are any restrictions at the provincial loser (4th) round of the draw - say mayo were to make it through and Galway and cork were the provincial losers, there'd be nothing to stop us drawing galway AFAIK??

Its not exactly clear but looking at the link below it does subject to avoidance of repeat pairings where possible from round 3 onwards whilst it doesn't mention it that at the round 2 stage.


http://www.gaa.ie/football/news/gaa-football-all-ireland-senior-championship-qualifiers/


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Post by: Main Street on June 29, 2017, 11:37:04 AM
I don't think there are any restrictions at the provincial loser (4th) round of the draw - say mayo were to make it through and Galway and cork were the provincial losers, there'd be nothing to stop us drawing galway AFAIK??

Its not exactly clear but looking at the link below it does subject to avoidance of repeat pairings where possible from round 3 onwards whilst it doesn't mention it that at the round 2 stage.


http://www.gaa.ie/football/news/gaa-football-all-ireland-senior-championship-qualifiers/
The info for the round 2 draw is there in the link you provided.
"Where two teams who have already met in a provincial championship of the current year are drawn to meet, the winner of the provincial championship game shall have home advantage."

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Post by: Blowitupref on July 01, 2017, 03:38:54 PM
Half time Laois 0-8 Clare 0-11
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Post by: Blowitupref on July 01, 2017, 04:19:01 PM
Clare strolling into the next round. 55 mins gone Laois 0-10 Clare 1-17.
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 01, 2017, 04:23:18 PM
Laois: 0-11(11) Clare: 2-17(23) after 60 minutes.

Laois went down to 14 when McLoughlin was sent off for a 2nd yellow.

Listening to it on Clare FM, Clare definitely sound like they are worth the lead - Laois playing fairly defensive and their only scoring threat seems to be Attride who got 3 from play, Conway got 1 point from play and Kingston got the remainder from frees.
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Post by: Blowitupref on July 01, 2017, 04:36:45 PM
FT Laois 0-14 Clare 2-18.
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Post by: Captain Obvious on July 01, 2017, 04:39:30 PM
Laois: 0-11(11) Clare: 2-17(23) after 60 minutes.

Laois went down to 14 when McLoughlin was sent off for a 2nd yellow.

Listening to it on Clare FM, Clare definitely sound like they are worth the lead - Laois playing fairly defensive and their only scoring threat seems to be Attride who got 3 from play, Conway got 1 point from play and Kingston got the remainder from frees.
2-18(24) conceded. A Blanket defence full of holes??
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Post by: laoislad on July 01, 2017, 04:47:15 PM
Laois: 0-11(11) Clare: 2-17(23) after 60 minutes.

Laois went down to 14 when McLoughlin was sent off for a 2nd yellow.

Listening to it on Clare FM, Clare definitely sound like they are worth the lead - Laois playing fairly defensive and their only scoring threat seems to be Attride who got 3 from play, Conway got 1 point from play and Kingston got the remainder from frees.
2-18(24) conceded. A Blanket defence full of holes??
Full of players who don't  give a shite.
On another note I've just read an online report saying Clare used 7 subs!!!
I hope to feck that's not true, no point getting beat twice by the same team as Armagh know all to well.
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Post by: seafoid on July 01, 2017, 04:53:23 PM
FT Laois 0-14 Clare 2-18.
Laois GAA is going through a very tough patch
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 01, 2017, 05:00:06 PM
Laois: 0-11(11) Clare: 2-17(23) after 60 minutes.

Laois went down to 14 when McLoughlin was sent off for a 2nd yellow.

Listening to it on Clare FM, Clare definitely sound like they are worth the lead - Laois playing fairly defensive and their only scoring threat seems to be Attride who got 3 from play, Conway got 1 point from play and Kingston got the remainder from frees.
2-18(24) conceded. A Blanket defence full of holes??
Full of players who don't  give a shite.
On another note I've just read an online report saying Clare used 7 subs!!!
I hope to feck that's not true, no point getting beat twice by the same team as Armagh know all to well.


The goals both came after Laois went down to 14 - Clare did have goal chances before then though. and Laois had a goal attempt come back off the post/crossbar. Overall though sounded like the Clare attack had too much quality

Clare FM said one of the subs was a blood sub so I'd be surprised if it was an issue.
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Post by: seafoid on July 01, 2017, 05:01:32 PM

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0701/887003-updates/


Joe Brolly was on Sunday Sport on Radio 1 earlier and believes that Derry are catching Mayo at the right time as this team nears the end of their run.

"I think Mayo's dream of winning Sam is over now," the Derry man said. "It's an awful de-motivation for them and they must realise that this is over.

"This brilliant odyssey they have been on and the great pleasure they have given us over the years is over so it must be an awful gutting thing. Where do they go from here? This is the time to play Mayo."
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Post by: seafoid on July 01, 2017, 05:03:55 PM
4 Mullinalaghta men playing on the Larries team. That is some going for a half parish.
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 01, 2017, 05:20:35 PM
After 18 mins its Donegal 0.01 Longford 0.02
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 01, 2017, 05:22:33 PM
21mins Longford 0-3 Donegal 0-1 - a free from David McGivney. All scores so far from frees
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Post by: seafoid on July 01, 2017, 05:27:34 PM
The 2012 finalists both feature in Round 2 this evening. Ní uasal agus Íseal ach thuas seal agus thíos seal.
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 01, 2017, 05:31:41 PM
after 28 mins, Its Donegal 0.02 Longford 0.03
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 01, 2017, 05:35:27 PM
All Ireland Qualifiers Round 2 32mins Longford 0-4 Donegal 0-2 - a third free from David McGivney
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 01, 2017, 05:39:37 PM
HT: Donegal 0-3 Longford 0-4. 10 wides apiece. Need to lift it big time in the second half.
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Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 01, 2017, 05:41:16 PM
Donegal all out of sorts. Should have enough class but they are car crash at the moment
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Post by: Itchy on July 01, 2017, 05:42:13 PM
Donegal all out of sorts. Should have enough class but they are car crash at the moment

Was wind favouring one of the teams?
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Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 01, 2017, 05:43:16 PM
Small breeze in our favour. Donegal 10 bad wides
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Post by: ONeill on July 01, 2017, 05:46:47 PM
Derry and Longford winning at HT. Would have been good odds.
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 01, 2017, 06:10:51 PM
46
Martin McElhinney puts Donegal back on level terms with a point from play.
Donegal - 0-05   (5)
Longford - 0-05  (5)

Longford down to 14
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Post by: J70 on July 01, 2017, 06:11:10 PM
Longford down to 14 men. Jason McGiveney, second yellow.

They've already lost two to black cards.

Donegal 0-6 Longford 0-6

Longford with their first from play.

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Post by: twohands!!! on July 01, 2017, 06:11:43 PM
49mins Donegal 0-6 Longford 0-5 - the first time Donegal are ahead in this game.
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Post by: J70 on July 01, 2017, 06:20:27 PM
Wee burst from Donegal there to edge 0-9 to 0-6 in front.
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Post by: Itchy on July 01, 2017, 06:23:13 PM
Deegan after giving 3 shocking soft frees to mayo
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Post by: J70 on July 01, 2017, 06:27:12 PM
Donegal 0-10 to 0-6 up with five minutes left.
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 01, 2017, 06:27:27 PM
Niall McCauley‏ @Nially1988  43s43 seconds ago

 Donegal v Longford, after 60mins.
Points: 16
Points from play: 5
Wides: 31.

Roughly. But even for ballpark figures that's quite a stat.
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Post by: J70 on July 01, 2017, 06:34:54 PM
Brutal stuff all around in Ballybofey.

FT Donegal 0-12 Longford 0-7
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 01, 2017, 06:42:15 PM
28min Meath 0-6 Sligo 0-6
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 01, 2017, 06:44:16 PM
Meath 0-06
Sligo 1-06

30 minutes.
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Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 01, 2017, 06:47:54 PM
Longford were competitive as I thought, can't see Donegal achieving much. Maybe the B side of the qualifiers will end up tougher.
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 01, 2017, 06:49:36 PM
LMFM‏ @LMFMRADIO 

Half-time in Navan:

Meath 0-06
Sligo 1-06

Meath will have a strong wind behind them in second half, but will need a huge improvement.
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Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 01, 2017, 06:52:24 PM
Ah well. Both sides were dire. The missed. Oh sweet Jesus. Donegal going nowhere fast. But congrats to Donegal on being the least worst
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Post by: StephenC on July 01, 2017, 06:57:00 PM
Ah well. Both sides were dire. The missed. Oh sweet Jesus. Donegal going nowhere fast. But congrats to Donegal on being the least worst

That about sums it up. A terrible performance from both teams with Longford's inaccuracy from place balls being the difference. We are going nowhere as you said.
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Post by: Hardy on July 01, 2017, 07:30:37 PM
Meath - four points with the wind in 27 mins of second half. One point down and lucky to be that close.
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Post by: Hardy on July 01, 2017, 07:31:42 PM
Mickey Newman levels it with a free. 5 to go.
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Post by: Hardy on July 01, 2017, 07:34:03 PM
Another point from a free by Mickey. One up, three to go.
0-12 to 1-8.
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Post by: Hardy on July 01, 2017, 07:37:04 PM
Five minutes added!
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Post by: Hardy on July 01, 2017, 07:40:14 PM
Sean Tobin a point from a 45. Two up, two to go.
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Post by: Hardy on July 01, 2017, 07:41:37 PM
Sean Tobin again. Three point lead.
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Post by: Hardy on July 01, 2017, 07:42:36 PM
Cleared off the Meath line with the defence beaten! Point for Sligo.
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Post by: Hardy on July 01, 2017, 07:43:05 PM
All over - three point win. A big struggle, by the sound of it. Sligo sounded the better team. A short career in the qualifiers beckons.
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Post by: thejuice on July 01, 2017, 08:07:06 PM
First qualifier win since 2011. Won't be screaming it from the rooftops but glad we made it into the draw for the next round. Sounded like a poor enough performance and losing Jones would be a serious set back if he's out. Injuries starting to add up now the strength of the squad being really tested now.

Reilly and O'Sullivan kept quiet again though Reilly did show some good leadership and doggedness in winning ball at the end. Won't be going into the next game with huge confidence that's for sure.
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Post by: macdanger2 on July 01, 2017, 08:45:52 PM
Only Clare will be happy with their 2nd round performance today, sounds like the other three all struggled. Home advantage will be huge
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Post by: Rossfan on July 01, 2017, 09:05:08 PM
Clare doing it again once they get out of the Provincial strait jacket.
But aren't Laois on some downward spiral?
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Post by: BennyCake on July 01, 2017, 10:14:45 PM
Clare doing it again once they get out of the Provincial strait jacket.
But aren't Laois on some downward spiral?

Yup. I notice Laoislad is making himself scarce.

A trouncing to Clare, and Div 4. Ouch!
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Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 01, 2017, 10:25:41 PM
Clare doing it again once they get out of the Provincial strait jacket.
But aren't Laois on some downward spiral?

They have been very poor at underage for around 10 years now, they may have a decent u17 team this year though but we will find out more about that in the coming weeks.
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Post by: thejuice on July 01, 2017, 11:47:25 PM
Am I right in saying we'll only face the winners of today's games in the next round?
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Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 01, 2017, 11:49:57 PM
Yes and the winners of those two games will have either Roscommon or Cork(assuming no upsets) in the last 12.

edit: I may be wrong there but too lazy to double check.
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Post by: Rossfan on July 02, 2017, 12:34:59 AM
Cork or Galway.
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Post by: Aaron Boone on July 02, 2017, 12:47:10 AM
All the first round winners lost today in the second round.

20 teams left in the race for Sam.
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Post by: Rossfan on July 02, 2017, 12:56:47 AM
So Antrim, Louth, Waterford and Wicklow are definitely Junior😷
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Post by: J70 on July 02, 2017, 12:24:15 PM
Ah well. Both sides were dire. The missed. Oh sweet Jesus. Donegal going nowhere fast. But congrats to Donegal on being the least worst

That about sums it up. A terrible performance from both teams with Longford's inaccuracy from place balls being the difference. We are going nowhere as you said.

Well let's hope at least we can get a couple of favourable draws and scrape through games to get some experience. I would have bitten your arm off this year for a quarter final spot, but it sounds like there's just too much work to be done with this group to achieve that this season.
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Post by: Jinxy on July 02, 2017, 08:47:53 PM
Please form an orderly queue to put us out of our misery.
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Post by: macdanger2 on July 02, 2017, 08:50:22 PM
All the first round winners lost today in the second round.

20 teams left in the race for Sam.

You'd wonder if mayo/meath/donegal hadn't been at home, would they have made it through
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Post by: omagh_gael on July 03, 2017, 08:42:27 AM
Clare v Mayo

Meath v Doengal
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Post by: omagh_gael on July 03, 2017, 08:43:08 AM
Big two will be happy to have avoided eachother but they're both tricky games. They'll be well tested.
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Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 03, 2017, 08:45:19 AM
Meath won't have a prayer if it's an Ulster ref.

50:50 otherwise
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Post by: AZOffaly on July 03, 2017, 09:11:46 AM
Was anyone listening to the draw. Seriously if Des Cahill is this bored with the whole thing he should just f**k off.
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Post by: From the Bunker on July 03, 2017, 09:14:44 AM
Was anyone listening to the draw. Seriously if Des Cahill is this bored with the whole thing he should just f**k off.

It was real cringe stuff!
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Post by: Maroon Manc on July 03, 2017, 09:20:09 AM
The wife is worried the Mayo game won't be on TV, I suspect they'll go for Meath v Donegal and obviously Waterford v Kilkenny.
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Post by: tippabu on July 03, 2017, 10:25:54 AM
The wife is worried the Mayo game won't be on TV, I suspect they'll go for Meath v Donegal and obviously Waterford v Kilkenny.

Last year at this stage they showed fermangh mayo at 3.30 and both hurling qualifiers at 5 and 7 so could yet be 3 tv games
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Post by: Main Street on July 03, 2017, 10:55:00 AM
It's a good draw for the neutral, could be two very interesting games.
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Post by: Cunny Funt on July 03, 2017, 11:21:24 AM
The wife is worried the Mayo game won't be on TV, I suspect they'll go for Meath v Donegal and obviously Waterford v Kilkenny.
Looks to be mandatory for every Mayo championship game to be televised nowadays.
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Post by: Taylor on July 03, 2017, 02:46:55 PM
The wife is worried the Mayo game won't be on TV, I suspect they'll go for Meath v Donegal and obviously Waterford v Kilkenny.
Looks to be mandatory for every Mayo championship game to be televised nowadays.

Looking that way with Saturdays game live as well.

The other game would probably have been closer but watching Donegal has got so bad lately RTE have to think of the advertising revenue and viewing figures
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Post by: Owen Brannigan on July 03, 2017, 05:09:15 PM
08 July   Clare v Mayo   Qualifier Round 3A   RTÉ
08 July   Qualifier Round   Sky Sports
09 July   Galway v Roscommon  Connacht Final   RTÉ
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Post by: stevecw on July 03, 2017, 05:27:59 PM
All the first round winners lost today in the second round.

20 teams left in the race for Sam.

Unlikely to see that happen again this weekend, 3 of the 1st round winners have a big chance of progressing.

Would expect Armagh to beat Westmeath. Carlow should beat Leitrim too. Cavan v Tipp is tough to call, but Cavan might squeeze through.
Monaghan will definitely beat Wexford, they are the only 1st round winner who will certainly lose.
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Post by: gwan-ye-boy-ya on July 03, 2017, 07:18:35 PM


All the first round winners lost today in the second round.

20 teams left in the race for Sam.

Unlikely to see that happen again this weekend, 3 of the 1st round winners have a big chance of progressing.

Would expect Armagh to beat Westmeath. Carlow should beat Leitrim too. Cavan v Tipp is tough to call, but Cavan might squeeze through.
Monaghan will definitely beat Wexford, they are the only 1st round winner who will certainly lose.


Monaghan were supposed to definitely bate down......
My mama says this Monaghan team is like a box of chocolates.... You never know which one your gonna get
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Post by: Itchy on July 03, 2017, 10:44:36 PM
Will one of the qualifiers be televised next weekend?
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Post by: omagh_gael on July 03, 2017, 10:50:59 PM
Woolly  (in his podcast) made a good point that the B side of the qualifiers will be completely overshadowed next weekend by the A side as they're one round ahead and have the big guns of Mayo and Donegal playing. Have hardly heard a word in the media about the B side.
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Post by: Itchy on July 03, 2017, 11:02:08 PM
Woolly  (in his podcast) made a good point that the B side of the qualifiers will be completely overshadowed next weekend by the A side as they're one round ahead and have the big guns of Mayo and Donegal playing. Have hardly heard a word in the media about the B side.

That's a good point?
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Post by: stevecw on July 03, 2017, 11:39:43 PM
Will one of the qualifiers be televised next weekend?
Clare v Mayo.

Then the week after Sky are showing both Round 3B qualifiers live.
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 08, 2017, 02:41:19 PM
Cavan 0-11 Tipperary 0-5 29 minutes.

Cavan have hit about 6 points in a row and have I think only one wide.

Tipp have 5/6 wides and a goal attempt off the post so it's not completely done and dusted yet but Tipp probably need a point or two before HT if they are to stay alive.
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Post by: PW Nally on July 08, 2017, 02:49:57 PM
Cavan 0-11 Tipperary 0-5 29 minutes.

Cavan have hit about 6 points in a row and have I think only one wide.

Tipp have 5/6 wides and a goal attempt off the post so it's not completely done and dusted yet but Tipp probably need a point or two before HT if they are to stay alive.
Tipp had breeze for 1st half I think.
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 08, 2017, 02:53:31 PM
Cavan 0-12 v Tipperary 0-6 Half-time

Cavan on top by a distance here and it sounds very much like the Cavan players have their shooting boots on whereas Tipp do not.

I think it was 4 of Tipp's points came from free.

8 different scorers for Cavan in that half and one point from play.

Tipp have a mountain to climb here.
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Post by: Schkite on July 08, 2017, 02:59:33 PM
Four changes for Monaghan: Dessie, Doogan, Carey and Malone replace Vinny, D Hughes, K Duffy and McCarthy.
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Post by: straightred on July 08, 2017, 03:12:07 PM
Four changes for Monaghan: Dessie, Doogan, Carey and Malone replace Vinny, D Hughes, K Duffy and McCarthy.

early monaghan goal. 1-3 to a point up
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 08, 2017, 03:16:30 PM
Cavan 0-12 v Tipperary 0-10 after 8 minutes of the 2nd half.

Tipp not going down without a fight,
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 08, 2017, 03:19:26 PM
Quinlivan on for Tipp
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 08, 2017, 03:28:57 PM
Tipp 1-13 Cavan 0-13 55 minutes - penalty for the goal.

Cavan with 1 point in the 2nd half; Tipp with 1-7.

Cavan in bother here.
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Post by: seafoid on July 08, 2017, 03:30:08 PM
Super stuff by Tipp
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 08, 2017, 03:31:45 PM
Monaghan 2-6 Wexford 0-2 after 27 minutes.

Banty in bother.
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 08, 2017, 03:35:16 PM
Tipp 2-13 to 0-14 Cavan 28 minutes

Wexford v Monaghan getting very narky 3 black cards already.

Monaghan 2-7 Wexford 0-3 almost HT
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Post by: straightred on July 08, 2017, 03:36:14 PM
Super stuff by Tipp

another tipp goal - that sounds like game over
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Post by: Schkite on July 08, 2017, 03:36:37 PM
McManus black card. Sounds like an awful scrappy game and the black card was harsh enough with McManus getting most of the abuse but getting penalised for reacting. Even still, we're winning by 10 points and McManus hadn't even scored so maybe they were giving him too much attention.
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 08, 2017, 03:37:27 PM
Super stuff by Tipp

another tipp goal - that sounds like game over

2 points for Cavan in 30 minutes of the 2nd half says it all about Cavan have done in the 2nd half.
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 08, 2017, 03:38:17 PM
Cavan: 0-15(15)
Tipperary: 2-14(20)

32 minutes.
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 08, 2017, 03:39:20 PM
Cavan: 0-16(15)
Tipperary: 2-14(20)

33 minutes.

Don't think there will be much injury time.
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 08, 2017, 03:42:04 PM
Wexford 0-5  Monaghan 2-10 (HT)
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 08, 2017, 03:42:37 PM
Cavan: 0-17(17)
Tipperary: 2-14(20)

4 minutes left.
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 08, 2017, 03:43:47 PM
Cavan: 0-18(18)
Tipperary: 2-14(20)

2/3 minutes left.

Tipp hanging on here.
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Post by: seafoid on July 08, 2017, 03:44:41 PM
Super stuff by Tipp

another tipp goal - that sounds like game over
Tipp have the bit of class that Cavan lack
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 08, 2017, 03:44:54 PM
Cavan: 0-18(18)
Tipperary: 2-15(20)

1/2 minutes left
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Post by: Schkite on July 08, 2017, 03:45:16 PM
Good first half for Monaghan even if it's been a niggly enough game. Sounds like McManus was being targeted a bit and he took the bait, but it's good that we're getting plenty of other scores when he was out of the game. Hopefully we don't ease off in the second half and don't get dragged into any other narky shyte.
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 08, 2017, 03:45:40 PM
Carlow 0-07 Leitrim 0-09  HT
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 08, 2017, 03:47:52 PM
Cavan: 0-18(18) Tipperary: 2-15(20) FT

Some turn-around in the 2nd half by Tipperary

2-9 scored by Tipp versus 0-6 for Cavan.
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Post by: Schkite on July 08, 2017, 03:49:40 PM
Christ what happened to Cavan in the second half?

Fair play to Tipp, serious comeback.
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Post by: Main Street on July 08, 2017, 03:52:18 PM
Wexford 0-5  Monaghan 2-10 (HT)
Banty's Thugs 0-5   Monaghan 2-10
 ;D
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Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 08, 2017, 03:54:34 PM
Ah that Cavan result upsets me. After Longford (natch) they are always the next crowd I think of.

I am surprised at Wexford - not like them to go all out Junior B. But, with that master tactician in charge, shur, nothing should surprise me.
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 08, 2017, 03:56:07 PM
The record of sides relegated from Division 1 continues to be awful.
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 08, 2017, 03:58:12 PM
Ah that Cavan result upsets me. After Longford (natch) they are always the next crowd I think of.

I am surprised at Wexford - not like them to go all out Junior B. But, with that master tactician in charge, shur, nothing should surprise me.

It would be interesting to count the number of reds, blacks and yellows Wexford have picked up since Banty took over and compare it to the previous regime.
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Post by: seafoid on July 08, 2017, 03:58:39 PM
Ah that Cavan result upsets me. After Longford (natch) they are always the next crowd I think of.

I am surprised at Wexford - not like them to go all out Junior B. But, with that master tactician in charge, shur, nothing should surprise me.
Cavan are the deep defending counterattacking maestros who can't score enough.
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Post by: Rossfan on July 08, 2017, 04:02:27 PM
Any oul club buck from Wexford could do what Banty has "achieved" and would only cost a few free dinners.
Some 2nd half by Tipp!
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Post by: straightred on July 08, 2017, 04:04:29 PM
wexford goal 2-12 to 1-5 now
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Post by: hardstation on July 08, 2017, 04:06:13 PM
Ah that Cavan result upsets me. After Longford (natch) they are always the next crowd I think of.

I am surprised at Wexford - not like them to go all out Junior B. But, with that master tactician in charge, shur, nothing should surprise me.
Cavan are the deep defending counterattacking maestros who can't score enough.
They're what's known the length & breadth of the country as shite.
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 08, 2017, 04:06:32 PM
Any oul club buck from Wexford could do what Banty has "achieved" and would only cost a few free dinners.
Some 2nd half by Tipp!

Yup I wonder if Banty might find his position under a bit of pressure.

His championship form so far with Wexford has been

4 point loss to  Carlow.
1 point win over Limerick.
And this sounds like it will be something of the order of a 10 point loss to Monaghan.

For what's he's probably costing them, doesn't seem like a great return.
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Post by: seafoid on July 08, 2017, 04:07:48 PM
Any oul club buck from Wexford could do what Banty has "achieved" and would only cost a few free dinners.
Some 2nd half by Tipp!
Showing the football counties how to do it. Galway hurlers outreach squad are planning a repeat tomorrow.
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Post by: Main Street on July 08, 2017, 04:09:52 PM
I'm also deeply upset by Cavan's 2nd half demise.

It sounds likes there a few thousand from Monaghan in Wexford Pk. I suppose it's an easy enough drive down the coast, compared with some cross country routes.
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Post by: Esmarelda on July 08, 2017, 04:11:24 PM
Ah that Cavan result upsets me. After Longford (natch) they are always the next crowd I think of.

I am surprised at Wexford - not like them to go all out Junior B. But, with that master tactician in charge, shur, nothing should surprise me.
Cavan are the deep defending counterattacking maestros who can't score enough.
Scoring 18 points and conceding 2-15 suggests that they can't score enough to you?
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 08, 2017, 04:12:06 PM
45 mins: Carlow 1-9  Leitrim 0-9 - Broderick with a goal for Carlow - likely a big score given how tight that game seems to have been.
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Post by: seafoid on July 08, 2017, 04:15:23 PM
Ah that Cavan result upsets me. After Longford (natch) they are always the next crowd I think of.

I am surprised at Wexford - not like them to go all out Junior B. But, with that master tactician in charge, shur, nothing should surprise me.
Cavan are the deep defending counterattacking maestros who can't score enough.
Scoring 18 points and conceding 2-15 suggests that they can't score enough to you?

Unfortunately you have to score more than your opponents
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Post by: Esmarelda on July 08, 2017, 04:22:37 PM
Ah that Cavan result upsets me. After Longford (natch) they are always the next crowd I think of.

I am surprised at Wexford - not like them to go all out Junior B. But, with that master tactician in charge, shur, nothing should surprise me.
Cavan are the deep defending counterattacking maestros who can't score enough.
Scoring 18 points and conceding 2-15 suggests that they can't score enough to you?

Unfortunately you have to score more than your opponents
You're way ahead of me. From looking at the scoreline I'd have said something like they need to tighten up at the back as 18 points should be enough to win most games. Always happy to be made aware of the basics though.
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 08, 2017, 04:24:54 PM
1-8 Wexford 3-19 Monaghan 55 minutes

14 different scorers for Monaghan

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Post by: twohands!!! on July 08, 2017, 04:28:12 PM
Monaghan and Wexford down to 14

Plus 4 lads black-carded - 1 from Monaghan, 3 from Wexford.
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 08, 2017, 04:28:47 PM
Carlow 2-14 Leitrim 0-11 - 5 minutes left
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Post by: twohands!!! on July 08, 2017, 04:36:46 PM
Wexford finish with 13 - straight red for John Lacey.

1-11 Wexford 3-23 Monaghan FT

15 different scorers for Monaghan with 3-19 of that from play.

Tipperary, Monaghan, Carlow and one of Westmeath/Armagh in the qualifier draw on Monday.

Everyone will be hoping for Carlow.
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Post by: straightred on July 08, 2017, 04:36:58 PM
1-8 Wexford 3-19 Monaghan 55 minutes

14 different scorers for Monaghan

and 3-18 so far from play out of 3-21. thats impressive and with carlow/tipp/armagh/westmeath to come you'd fancy them to have a bit of a run through the qualifiers now
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Post by: Schkite on July 08, 2017, 04:44:05 PM
Straightforward for Monaghan but that's the way it should look in all honesty when you have two teams that played in Division 1 and Division 4 this year respectively. It's been a criticism of us many times that we're not ruthless enough in pulling away from teams, so it was good to see us run up a score.

We won't be getting carried away obviously but it was a good run out for the team, and we played fair chunks of the game without some key players so it was good to use the squad more. 15 different players getting on the scoreboard is encouraging, and it's a bit mad that we scored 3 goals and they were all scored by defenders!

Much tougher tests lie ahead but that was a great response to the Down defeat, especially when you look at how we reacted to getting knocked out of Ulster last year.
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Post by: Dire Ear on July 08, 2017, 05:45:15 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/northern-ireland/40543691  Cavan fall apart
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Post by: Itchy on July 08, 2017, 06:02:49 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/northern-ireland/40543691  Cavan fall apart

Cavan are an embarrassment. After years of steady progress we have been taken backwards. New manager has managed 2 competitive wins this year and he just doesn't seem up to the task and no amount of auld uber positive crap will change that.
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Post by: Dire Ear on July 08, 2017, 06:56:28 PM
Have to agree,  they looked strong and focused v Tyrone in McKenna cup, I know it was only the McKenna cup, but still....
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Post by: Schkite on July 08, 2017, 07:10:48 PM
Seen a stat on Twitter there that today was the first match McManus didn't score in since May 2009 when he was playing wing-forward - he'd scored in 85 consecutive starts until today.
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Post by: BennyCake on July 08, 2017, 08:15:30 PM
What was Chris Kamara doing at Carlow Leitrim?
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Post by: omagh_gael on July 08, 2017, 08:53:06 PM
What was Chris Kamara doing at Carlow Leitrim?

Himself and Jeff Stelling are over on a GAA promo tour. They were commentating on a Kerry u16 match, we're in Tyrone's new training complex yesterday and touring the country today.
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Post by: Schkite on July 08, 2017, 09:10:36 PM
What was Chris Kamara doing at Carlow Leitrim?

Himself and Jeff Stelling are over on a GAA promo tour. They were commentating on a Kerry u16 match, we're in Tyrone's new training complex yesterday and touring the country today.

They were up at a Currin game in Monaghan last night too.
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Post by: omagh_gael on July 08, 2017, 09:17:45 PM
What was Chris Kamara doing at Carlow Leitrim?

Himself and Jeff Stelling are over on a GAA promo tour. They were commentating on a Kerry u16 match, we're in Tyrone's new training complex yesterday and touring the country today.

They were up at a Currin game in Monaghan last night too.

I wonder did the get a bit of Dick?
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Post by: BennyCake on July 08, 2017, 10:34:47 PM
What was Chris Kamara doing at Carlow Leitrim?

Himself and Jeff Stelling are over on a GAA promo tour. They were commentating on a Kerry u16 match, we're in Tyrone's new training complex yesterday and touring the country today.

Unbelievable, Jeff Omagh Gael!
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Post by: Main Street on July 08, 2017, 11:21:28 PM
What was Chris Kamara doing at Carlow Leitrim?

Himself and Jeff Stelling are over on a GAA promo tour. They were commentating on a Kerry u16 match, we're in Tyrone's new training complex yesterday and touring the country today.

Unbelievable, Jeff Omagh Gael!
I'd say Omagh Gael is just carrying their luggage.
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Post by: omagh_gael on July 08, 2017, 11:28:53 PM
They were planning to come over next weekend to experience a classic Tyrone v Monaghan Ulster final but someone forgot to follow the script!
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Post by: Main Street on July 08, 2017, 11:41:29 PM
 If someone followed your script, they'd get misdirected due to the misplaced apostrophe.


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Post by: cornetto on July 09, 2017, 08:19:46 AM
So if galway win it's
Mayo v ross/cork

A ross win it's
Mayo v cork.
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Post by: omagh_gael on July 09, 2017, 09:48:04 AM
If someone followed your script, they'd get misdirected due to the misplaced apostrophe.

The phone's autocorrect was the culprit there.
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Post by: Main Street on July 09, 2017, 12:13:46 PM
If someone followed your script, they'd get misdirected due to the misplaced apostrophe.

The phone's autocorrect was the culprit there.
The blame game ::) 

You have an iphone? turn off auto correct, as  the predictive three word choice works much better.
On the fly settings can be made  by holding down the emoji under the keyboard.
Or more formal,   Settings -  General -  Keyboard.
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Post by: omagh_gael on July 09, 2017, 01:28:01 PM
I always use android, upgraded to Galaxy S7 last year and their predictive text has went to shite.
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Post by: Hardy on July 09, 2017, 01:37:33 PM
I always use android, upgraded to Galaxy S7 last year and their predictive text has went to shite.

 ;D
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Post by: macdanger2 on July 09, 2017, 03:38:50 PM
So if galway win it's
Mayo v ross/cork

A ross win it's
Mayo v cork.

Mayo V Cork, Ros V Galway
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Post by: Jinxy on July 09, 2017, 03:41:11 PM
If someone followed your script, they'd get misdirected due to the misplaced apostrophe.

The phone's autocorrect was the culprit there.
The blame game ::) 

You have an iphone? turn off auto correct, as  the predictive three word choice works much better.
On the fly settings can be made  by holding down the emoji under the keyboard.
Or more formal,   Settings -  General -  Keyboard.

He's from Tyrone, so you'll have to explain the highlighted words to him.
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Post by: Denbobjoe on July 09, 2017, 03:46:34 PM
So if galway win it's
Mayo v ross/cork

A ross win it's
Mayo v cork.

Mayo V Cork, Ros V Galway
So, how will Galway fair against Donegal based on this weekends performances?
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Post by: tippabu on July 09, 2017, 03:51:03 PM
So if galway win it's
Mayo v ross/cork

A ross win it's
Mayo v cork.

Mayo V Cork, Ros V Galway
So, how will Galway fair against Donegal based on this weekends performances?

you can never take galway on form, they are capable of anything, good or bad on any given day
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Post by: From the Bunker on July 09, 2017, 04:13:02 PM
So if galway win it's
Mayo v ross/cork

A ross win it's
Mayo v cork.

Mayo V Cork, Ros V Galway
So, how will Galway fair against Donegal based on this weekends performances?

you can never take galway on form, they are capable of anything, good or bad on any given day

At least Galway have 2 weeks to clear their heads. It will be hard for them to get their heads around having to deal with a Qualifier when they were expecting to be playing in Croker next in a Quarter final.

Will Galway/Donegal be in Castlebar?
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Post by: GaillimhIarthair on July 09, 2017, 04:45:15 PM
I don't have good memories of playing Donegal in Castlebar!

We are sooooo inconsistent, it's hard to know what a 2 week break will do for us........
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Post by: omagh_gael on July 09, 2017, 04:51:09 PM
Feck off ya Meath hoors!

If I were to use the correct grammar I suppose i could say Meath football has gone to shite. ;)
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Post by: GalwayBayBoy on July 09, 2017, 06:15:10 PM
I don't have good memories of playing Donegal in Castlebar!

We are sooooo inconsistent, it's hard to know what a 2 week break will do for us........

They had 4 weeks to work on things after the Mayo game and they did almost everything worse today.

Donegal have not been great but I can't see Galway recovering from such an utterly dreadful performance in time.

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Post by: omagh_gael on July 09, 2017, 07:33:58 PM
Donegal haven't got motoring at all this championship. You'd think two games against Longford and Meath would have been enough to burn off the dirty diesel but there still not right. Galway have a big chance here, IMO.
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Post by: Main Street on July 09, 2017, 07:39:19 PM
If someone followed your script, they'd get misdirected due to the misplaced apostrophe.

The phone's autocorrect was the culprit there.
The blame game ::) 

You have an iphone? turn off auto correct, as  the predictive three word choice works much better.
On the fly settings can be made  by holding down the emoji under the keyboard.
Or more formal,   Settings -  General -  Keyboard.

He's from Tyrone, so you'll have to explain the highlighted words to him.
I suppose the starting point of any solution for any discord between a Tyrone man and his phone is,
"It's not the phone that's the problem".

Predictive 3 word  text is when you type in 'Tyrone', it suggests as a follow-up word, 
paranoia, cynical, cheats.




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Post by: ONeill on July 09, 2017, 08:48:51 PM
What way is the other side of the draw? Who do Dublin and Down meet in their quarter finals?
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Post by: OgraAnDun on July 09, 2017, 08:54:39 PM
What way is the other side of the draw? Who do Dublin and Down meet in their quarter finals?

B side will be Tipp, Carlow, Armagh and Monaghan. Hopefully Monaghan and Armagh are drawn against eachother (and so we would play the winner of Tipp v Carlow in Round 4 if we lose to Tyrone) - beating a team once in the championship is hard enough but twice even more so (as we found out with Derry).

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Post by: An Fhairche Abu on July 09, 2017, 08:58:51 PM
I don't have good memories of playing Donegal in Castlebar!

We are sooooo inconsistent, it's hard to know what a 2 week break will do for us........

They had 4 weeks to work on things after the Mayo game and they did almost everything worse today.

Donegal have not been great but I can't see Galway recovering from such an utterly dreadful performance in time.

Donegal will be licking their chops after watching that match today, how do you recover from that?
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Post by: tippabu on July 09, 2017, 09:21:09 PM
What way is the other side of the draw? Who do Dublin and Down meet in their quarter finals?

B side will be Tipp, Carlow, Armagh and Monaghan. Hopefully Monaghan and Armagh are drawn against eachother (and so we would play the winner of Tipp v Carlow in Round 4 if we lose to Tyrone) - beating a team once in the championship is hard enough but twice even more so (as we found out with Derry).

I'm hoping for the exact same thing!!
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Post by: OgraAnDun on July 09, 2017, 09:44:52 PM
What way is the other side of the draw? Who do Dublin and Down meet in their quarter finals?

B side will be Tipp, Carlow, Armagh and Monaghan. Hopefully Monaghan and Armagh are drawn against eachother (and so we would play the winner of Tipp v Carlow in Round 4 if we lose to Tyrone) - beating a team once in the championship is hard enough but twice even more so (as we found out with Derry).

I'm hoping for the exact same thing!!

I suppose Down would be the preferred draw compared to Kildare alright. You never know, hopefully Tyrone end up in the qualifiers.
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Post by: tippabu on July 09, 2017, 09:49:57 PM
What way is the other side of the draw? Who do Dublin and Down meet in their quarter finals?

B side will be Tipp, Carlow, Armagh and Monaghan. Hopefully Monaghan and Armagh are drawn against eachother (and so we would play the winner of Tipp v Carlow in Round 4 if we lose to Tyrone) - beating a team once in the championship is hard enough but twice even more so (as we found out with Derry).

I'm hoping for the exact same thing!!

I suppose Down would be the preferred draw compared to Kildare alright. You never know, hopefully Tyrone end up in the qualifiers.

Who knows, nobody thought monaghan would be in the qualifiers at this stage. If ye do get us or carlow and win that a handy 1/4 final against the dubs for ye!!
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Post by: OgraAnDun on July 09, 2017, 09:53:32 PM
What way is the other side of the draw? Who do Dublin and Down meet in their quarter finals?

B side will be Tipp, Carlow, Armagh and Monaghan. Hopefully Monaghan and Armagh are drawn against eachother (and so we would play the winner of Tipp v Carlow in Round 4 if we lose to Tyrone) - beating a team once in the championship is hard enough but twice even more so (as we found out with Derry).

I'm hoping for the exact same thing!!

I suppose Down would be the preferred draw compared to Kildare alright. You never know, hopefully Tyrone end up in the qualifiers.

Who knows, nobody thought monaghan would be in the qualifiers at this stage. If ye do get us or carlow and win that a handy 1/4 final against the dubs for ye!!

There's similarities between the Down footballers and the Cork hurlers over the past couple of years so maybe that's an omen! Dubs will be waiting in the semi to try and stop us swaggering into the final  ;)
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Post by: Mourne Rover on July 09, 2017, 09:55:07 PM
Will Galway/Donegal and Mayo/Cork end up as a double bill at somewhere like Limerick ?
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Post by: tippabu on July 09, 2017, 10:08:06 PM
Will Galway/Donegal and Mayo/Cork end up as a double bill at somewhere like Limerick ?

No
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Post by: Seamus on July 09, 2017, 10:28:28 PM
Will Galway/Donegal and Mayo/Cork end up as a double bill at somewhere like Limerick ?

Cork would never agree to Limerick, it's like a home ground to Mayo at this stage.
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Post by: omagh_gael on July 09, 2017, 10:42:15 PM
If someone followed your script, they'd get misdirected due to the misplaced apostrophe.

The phone's autocorrect was the culprit there.
The blame game ::) 

You have an iphone? turn off auto correct, as  the predictive three word choice works much better.
On the fly settings can be made  by holding down the emoji under the keyboard.
Or more formal,   Settings -  General -  Keyboard.

He's from Tyrone, so you'll have to explain the highlighted words to him.
I suppose the starting point of any solution for any discord between a Tyrone man and his phone is,
"It's not the phone that's the problem".

Predictive 3 word  text is when you type in 'Tyrone', it suggests as a follow-up word, 
paranoia, cynical, cheats.


Type in Monaghan and the suggestions throw up:

Tyrone    Quarter Final       Defeat

The aul Monaghan knees are shaking at the prospect of meeting the red hands in Croker again ;)
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Post by: cornetto on July 09, 2017, 11:02:34 PM
Galway  v donegal will probably castlebar.
after today's performance hard to get motivated,but Jesus they trained hard for today and just didn't happen.
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Post by: Il Bomber Destro on July 09, 2017, 11:22:51 PM
Galway  v donegal will probably castlebar.
after today's performance hard to get motivated,but Jesus they trained hard for today and just didn't happen.

Galway and Donegal will be in Sligo you'd imagine.

The game was held there when a teenage Michael Murphy beat Galway on his own a good 10 years or so ago.
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Post by: Schkite on July 10, 2017, 08:38:41 AM
Tipp v Armagh
Carlow v Monaghan

Our Leinster roadtrip continues
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Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 10, 2017, 08:55:28 AM
Tipp v Armagh
Carlow v Monaghan

Our Leinster roundtrip continues

Round 4 then is;

Cork v Mayo
Donegal v Galway
Tipp or Armagh v Down/ Tyrone/ Dublin/ Kildare
Carlow or Monaghan v Down/ Tyrone/ Dublin/ Kildare
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Post by: omagh_gael on July 10, 2017, 08:58:19 AM
Armagh boys will be licking their lips at that draw. Unfinished business!
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Post by: tonto1888 on July 10, 2017, 09:01:01 AM
Armagh boys will be licking their lips at that draw. Unfinished business!

Would have rathered it was at home
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Post by: Rossfan on July 10, 2017, 09:01:16 AM
Armagh boys will be licking their lips at that draw. Unfinished business!
Have Tipp withdrawn/conceded a walkover?
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Post by: Taylor on July 10, 2017, 09:02:54 AM
Tipp v Armagh
Carlow v Monaghan

Our Leinster roundtrip continues

Round 4 then is;

Cork v Mayo
Donegal v Galway
Tipp or Armagh v Down/ Tyrone/ Dublin/ Kildare
Carlow or Monaghan v Down/ Tyrone/ Dublin/ Kildare

Mayo
Donegal
Armagh
Monaghan
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Post by: clarshack on July 10, 2017, 09:05:01 AM
Another handy draw for Armagh
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Post by: Tubberman on July 10, 2017, 09:06:17 AM
Tipp will take Armagh handy enough
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Post by: Orior on July 10, 2017, 09:14:27 AM
Tipp will take Armagh handy enough

Fightin' talk.
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Post by: omagh_gael on July 10, 2017, 09:34:40 AM
Armagh boys will be licking their lips at that draw. Unfinished business!
Have Tipp withdrawn/conceded a walkover?

I haven't suggested that Armagh will walk it, simply that they'll be keen to right the fcuk up of missing promotion to Division 2.
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Post by: cicfada on July 10, 2017, 09:35:07 AM
The picture is becoming a lot clearer now. A lot of assumptions here but let's say that Tipp beat Armagh and mon beat Carlow . Then mon and Tipp play Down and Kildare. So then let's say that mon beat Kildare and Tipp beat Down. Therefore you'd have Mayo, Donegal, Tipp and Mon playing Dublin, Ros, Kerry and Tyrone. Isn't that nearly what the last 8 teams would be expected  to have been anyway?
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Post by: DJGaliv on July 10, 2017, 10:40:09 AM
Anyone know when the venues for round 4 will be decided?
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Post by: Orior on July 10, 2017, 11:14:32 AM
Perhaps when the CCCC meet.
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Post by: omagh_gael on July 10, 2017, 11:35:27 AM
The picture is becoming a lot clearer now. A lot of assumptions here but let's say that Tipp beat Armagh and mon beat Carlow . Then mon and Tipp play Down and Kildare. So then let's say that mon beat Kildare and Tipp beat Down. Therefore you'd have Mayo, Donegal, Tipp and Mon playing Dublin, Ros, Kerry and Tyrone. Isn't that nearly what the last 8 teams would be expected  to have been anyway?

Assuming the games go the way you're saying you could narrow the QF pairings down further to:

Donegal or Mayo v Kerry or Roscommon

Monaghan or Tipp v Tyrone or Dublin
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Post by: Mayo Club 51 on July 10, 2017, 11:55:16 AM
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Post by: Rossfan on July 10, 2017, 12:28:53 PM
The picture is becoming a lot clearer now. A lot of assumptions here but let's say that Tipp beat Armagh and mon beat Carlow . Then mon and Tipp play Down and Kildare. So then let's say that mon beat Kildare and Tipp beat Down. Therefore you'd have Mayo, Donegal, Tipp and Mon playing Dublin, Ros, Kerry and Tyrone. Isn't that nearly what the last 8 teams would be expected  to have been anyway?

Assuming the games go the way you're saying you could narrow the QF pairings down further to:

Donegal or Mayo v Kerry or Roscommon

Monaghan or Tipp v Tyrone or Dublin
I think you're a biteen mixed up there.
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Post by: tippabu on July 10, 2017, 12:31:57 PM
The picture is becoming a lot clearer now. A lot of assumptions here but let's say that Tipp beat Armagh and mon beat Carlow . Then mon and Tipp play Down and Kildare. So then let's say that mon beat Kildare and Tipp beat Down. Therefore you'd have Mayo, Donegal, Tipp and Mon playing Dublin, Ros, Kerry and Tyrone. Isn't that nearly what the last 8 teams would be expected  to have been anyway?

Assuming the games go the way you're saying you could narrow the QF pairings down further to:

Donegal or Mayo v Kerry or Roscommon

Monaghan or Tipp v Tyrone or Dublin
I think you're a biteen mixed up there.

No he's right if them teams were to win their games
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Post by: omagh_gael on July 10, 2017, 01:21:05 PM
The picture is becoming a lot clearer now. A lot of assumptions here but let's say that Tipp beat Armagh and mon beat Carlow . Then mon and Tipp play Down and Kildare. So then let's say that mon beat Kildare and Tipp beat Down. Therefore you'd have Mayo, Donegal, Tipp and Mon playing Dublin, Ros, Kerry and Tyrone. Isn't that nearly what the last 8 teams would be expected  to have been anyway?

Assuming the games go the way you're saying you could narrow the QF pairings down further to:

Donegal or Mayo v Kerry or Roscommon

Monaghan or Tipp v Tyrone or Dublin
I think you're a biteen mixed up there.

No he's right if them teams were to win their games

Donegal and Mayo's side of the draw were always destined to meet the Connaught or Munster champions. Likewise the Monaghan/Tipp/Armagh side were facing the Ulster/Leinster Champs.
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Post by: OgraAnDun on July 10, 2017, 01:38:48 PM
Limerick and Sligo the venues.
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Post by: mayo.mick on July 10, 2017, 01:41:18 PM
https://twitter.com/sligogaa/status/884391614961115140
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Post by: Taylor on July 10, 2017, 01:42:45 PM
Both games on Sky this Saturday.

Be interesting to see how much Monaghan have improved. Still think they will have a major say this year
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Post by: Il Bomber Destro on July 10, 2017, 02:25:01 PM
Mayo should progress past Cork without much bother in the next round. I think they turned a corner on Saturday and their second half performance was very impressive given they looked in a bit of bother.

They should be hoping for Kerry in the quarters after. Provincial Champions can often be caught cold in this round, Kerry will be 4 weeks or so without a game and Mayo will have that sharpness and momentum built up from coming through the qualifiers. I think Mayo playing Kerry in the quarter finals as opposed the semis gives them a much better chance. They still haven't beaten Dublin under Gavin or Kerry under Fitzmaurice yet in Championship football so it would be an intriguing matchup.

Donegal are stuttering along at the minute, I don't know whether it's devoid of confidence they are and the performances are a result of that or whether they're deep in the middle of transition and that's the level they are at. I guess the game against Galway will tell us more, getting through a tight affair like they did in Meath at the weekend might give them the shot in the arm but so far they have been really unimpressive.
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Post by: Taylor on July 10, 2017, 02:29:02 PM
Donegal actually remind me of Roscommon last year. Flying in the league but found out in the cship as other teams fitness increased.

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Post by: Rossfan on July 10, 2017, 02:54:35 PM
The picture is becoming a lot clearer now. A lot of assumptions here but let's say that Tipp beat Armagh and mon beat Carlow . Then mon and Tipp play Down and Kildare. So then let's say that mon beat Kildare and Tipp beat Down. Therefore you'd have Mayo, Donegal, Tipp and Mon playing Dublin, Ros, Kerry and Tyrone. Isn't that nearly what the last 8 teams would be expected  to have been anyway?

Assuming the games go the way you're saying you could narrow the QF pairings down further to:

Donegal or Mayo v Kerry or Roscommon

Monaghan or Tipp v Tyrone or Dublin
I think you're a biteen mixed up there.

No he's right if them teams were to win their games

Yep ... see it now. I read it first as the winner of game between Kerry/ Ros which hopefully will be the All Ireland Semi.
I expect Mayowestros to beat Cork and the other one depends how Galway react to yesterday.
Donegal and Rhubarbs victories means there will be a draw for the Qtr Final pairings.
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Post by: J70 on July 10, 2017, 04:52:48 PM
Mayo should progress past Cork without much bother in the next round. I think they turned a corner on Saturday and their second half performance was very impressive given they looked in a bit of bother.

They should be hoping for Kerry in the quarters after. Provincial Champions can often be caught cold in this round, Kerry will be 4 weeks or so without a game and Mayo will have that sharpness and momentum built up from coming through the qualifiers. I think Mayo playing Kerry in the quarter finals as opposed the semis gives them a much better chance. They still haven't beaten Dublin under Gavin or Kerry under Fitzmaurice yet in Championship football so it would be an intriguing matchup.

Donegal are stuttering along at the minute, I don't know whether it's devoid of confidence they are and the performances are a result of that or whether they're deep in the middle of transition and that's the level they are at. I guess the game against Galway will tell us more, getting through a tight affair like they did in Meath at the weekend might give them the shot in the arm but so far they have been really unimpressive.

We are stuttering all right, but its going to take a team half filled with new, inexperienced players a while to get used to senior championship football.

Ciaran Thompson was superb in the league, hitting some outrageous score, but the return of McBrearty has probably robbed him of some of the shooting opportunities that he was so impressively taking back then. Result is he doesn't catch the eye quite as much.

McBrearty has been having arguably his most impressive season yet as a Donegal player (still only 23!) and should be heading for an All Star nomination if he keeps it up and we reach the quarters. Only man apart from McGinley that really performed against Tyrone. Perhaps the spring lay-off benefited him.

Ryan McHugh returned to some form against Meath, while Murphy was man of the match again. Eventually, we'll be found out again as a team, but it would be nice if we could beat Galway and make another quarter final to build a bit of confidence for the future.

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Post by: armaghniac on July 10, 2017, 05:14:55 PM
All-Ireland SFC Round 3B qualifiers
Tipperary v Armagh, Semple Stadium, Saturday, 5pm
Carlow v Monaghan, Netwatch Cullen Park, Saturday, 7pm

All-Ireland SFC Round 4A qualifiers
Cork v Mayo, Gaelic Grounds, Limerick, Saturday 22, July, TBC
Galway v Donegal, Markievicz Park, Saturday 22 July, TBC
Title: Re: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on July 10, 2017, 05:22:31 PM
Apparently the times are:

Cork v Mayo - 5pm
Galway v Donegal - 7pm

I'd say there won't much of a Galway crowd (even by our standards) in Sligo, the few league die hards and not much else.
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Post by: ranch on July 10, 2017, 06:23:39 PM
Should both Monaghan and Armagh win this Saturday and Down lose on Sunday, then it's obviously unavoidable that there will be a repeat pairing from the Ulster Championship. In that scenario would Down be guaranteed a home game in round 4, or does round 4 have to be in a neutral venue?
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Post by: straightred on July 10, 2017, 06:46:18 PM
Should both Monaghan and Armagh win this Saturday and Down lose on Sunday, then it's obviously unavoidable that there will be a repeat pairing from the Ulster Championship. In that scenario would Down be guaranteed a home game in round 4, or does round 4 have to be in a neutral venue?

i would have thought neutral regardless of whether or not they played before.
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Post by: tippabu on July 10, 2017, 07:33:20 PM
Should both Monaghan and Armagh win this Saturday and Down lose on Sunday, then it's obviously unavoidable that there will be a repeat pairing from the Ulster Championship. In that scenario would Down be guaranteed a home game in round 4, or does round 4 have to be in a neutral venue?

i would have thought neutral regardless of whether or not they played before.

Yes round 4 is neutral, just like mayo v cork and donegal v galway games
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Post by: Catch and Kick on July 10, 2017, 09:57:32 PM
Carlow have literally brought a lot of colour to the Championship this year and have made the last sixteen for the first time ever.
Sure they beat London and Leitrim to get there but they also hammered Wexford and gave Dublin a fright  - made a better fist of it than Westmeath.
Monaghan should easily account for them in Dr Cullen Park on Saturday.
Good draw for Monaghan in getting Wexford and then Carlow.
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Post by: Give and Go on July 10, 2017, 11:31:40 PM
Great draw for Monaghan. They should coast into the Quarter Final where their physicality will be too much for the Lily Whites who never cope with that type of game.
Tipp to take Armagh!
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Post by: OgraAnDun on July 10, 2017, 11:33:42 PM
Great draw for Monaghan. They should coast into the Quarter Final where their physicality will be too much for the Lily Whites who never cope with that type of game.
Tipp to take Armagh!

Kildare to beat the Dubs in Leinster then?
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Post by: LilySavage on July 10, 2017, 11:37:35 PM
Kildare by 7-10
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Post by: Rossfan on July 10, 2017, 11:43:20 PM
Kildare by 7-10

A.M or P.M? ;D
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Post by: under the bar on July 11, 2017, 12:45:26 AM
Armagh have to sh*te or get off the pot v Tipp. Great draw for McGeeney to throw off the numpty manager tag but it will take a lot of div 3 players to step up from the typical dross showing the Orchard county has served up in recent years.   
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Post by: joemamas on July 11, 2017, 02:26:42 AM
Should both Monaghan and Armagh win this Saturday and Down lose on Sunday, then it's obviously unavoidable that there will be a repeat pairing from the Ulster Championship. In that scenario would Down be guaranteed a home game in round 4, or does round 4 have to be in a neutral venue?

Those two games are in Croke Park on Saturday July 29th.
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Post by: stevecw on July 11, 2017, 11:28:07 PM
Carlow have literally brought a lot of colour to the Championship this year and have made the last sixteen for the first time ever.
Sure they beat London and Leitrim to get there but they also hammered Wexford and gave Dublin a fright  - made a better fist of it than Westmeath.
Monaghan should easily account for them in Dr Cullen Park on Saturday.
Good draw for Monaghan in getting Wexford and then Carlow.
For us to be in the last 14 is amazing, Monaghan was the nightmare draw really. Against Armagh, we would have fancied our chances. Even Tipp, might have been 20/80!

We beat Wexford, London & Leitrim to get this far....did annoy Dublin for 48 mins. Up to that stage when Brendan Murphy got sent off, it was Dublin 0-9 -Carlow 0-6. If Diarmuid Connolly had been sent off just before that as he should at the time for push on linesman who knows how close it might have ended up. We saw what they did to Westmeath after. We did very well in comparison!
It's been a great run for us, 5 championship games/3 wins for the 1st time in 73 years, should be a great occasion on Sat evening. Even last Saturday after beating Leitrim, there was a big Carlow support there and loads of kids after the game asking the Carlow players for selfies & to sign shirts, programs etc. Seeing them on Sky and then winning games in front of them, makes them celebs to the kids. Hopefully we can put on a respectable display on Sat night, would be horrible for this run to end with a hammering.
Title: Re: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: twohands!!! on July 13, 2017, 11:40:44 PM
Monaghan

1. Rory Beggan (Scotstown)
2. Fintan Kelly (Clones)
3. Drew Wylie (Ballybay Pearse Brothers)
4. Ryan Wylie (Ballybay Pearse Brothers)
5. Dessie Mone (Clontibret)
6. Colin Walshe (Doohamlet O’Neills)
7. Karl O’Connell (Tyholland)
8. Kieran Hughes (Scotstown)
9. Neil McAdam (Monaghan Harps)
10. Gavin Doogan (Magheracloone)
11. Dermot Malone (Castleblayney Faughs)
12. Shane Carey (Scotstown)
13. Owen Duffy (Latton)
14. Jack McCarron (Currin)
15. Conor McManus (Clontibret O’Neills)

Subs
16. Conor Forde (Scotstown)
17. Kieran Duffy (Latton O’Rahilly)
18. James Mealiff (Clones)
19. Brian Greenan (Clontibret O’Neills)
20. Vinny Corey (Clontibret O’Neills)
21. Darren Hughes (Scotstown)
22. Dessie Ward (Ballybay)
23. Ryan McAnespie (Emyvale)
24. Thomas Kerr (Ballybay Pearse Brothers)
25. Conor McCarthy (Scotstown)
26. Darren Freeman (St Brigid’s, Dublin)
Title: Re: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: seafoid on July 13, 2017, 11:53:12 PM
Monaghan

1. Rory Beggan (Scotstown)
2. Fintan Kelly (Clones)
3. Drew Wylie (Ballybay Pearse Brothers)
4. Ryan Wylie (Ballybay Pearse Brothers)
5. Dessie Mone (Clontibret)
6. Colin Walshe (Doohamlet O’Neills)
7. Karl O’Connell (Tyholland)
8. Kieran Hughes (Scotstown)
9. Neil McAdam (Monaghan Harps)
10. Gavin Doogan (Magheracloone)
11. Dermot Malone (Castleblayney Faughs)
12. Shane Carey (Scotstown)
13. Owen Duffy (Latton)
14. Jack McCarron (Currin)
15. Conor McManus (Clontibret O’Neills)

Subs
16. Conor Forde (Scotstown)
17. Kieran Duffy (Latton O’Rahilly)
18. James Mealiff (Clones)
19. Brian Greenan (Clontibret O’Neills)
20. Vinny Corey (Clontibret O’Neills)
21. Darren Hughes (Scotstown)
22. Dessie Ward (Ballybay)
23. Ryan McAnespie (Emyvale)
24. Thomas Kerr (Ballybay Pearse Brothers)
25. Conor McCarthy (Scotstown)
26. Darren Freeman (St Brigid’s, Dublin)
Do you have to be brothers if you play for the county and represent Ballybay Pearse Brothers?
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Post by: stevecw on July 14, 2017, 01:31:47 AM
Monaghan

1. Rory Beggan (Scotstown)
2. Fintan Kelly (Clones)
3. Drew Wylie (Ballybay Pearse Brothers)
4. Ryan Wylie (Ballybay Pearse Brothers)
5. Dessie Mone (Clontibret)
6. Colin Walshe (Doohamlet O’Neills)
7. Karl O’Connell (Tyholland)
8. Kieran Hughes (Scotstown)
9. Neil McAdam (Monaghan Harps)
10. Gavin Doogan (Magheracloone)
11. Dermot Malone (Castleblayney Faughs)
12. Shane Carey (Scotstown)
13. Owen Duffy (Latton)
14. Jack McCarron (Currin)
15. Conor McManus (Clontibret O’Neills)

Subs
16. Conor Forde (Scotstown)
17. Kieran Duffy (Latton O’Rahilly)
18. James Mealiff (Clones)
19. Brian Greenan (Clontibret O’Neills)
20. Vinny Corey (Clontibret O’Neills)
21. Darren Hughes (Scotstown)
22. Dessie Ward (Ballybay)
23. Ryan McAnespie (Emyvale)
24. Thomas Kerr (Ballybay Pearse Brothers)
25. Conor McCarthy (Scotstown)
26. Darren Freeman (St Brigid’s, Dublin)

That's a strong team and seriously good bench too. That is what I fear most for us on Saturday. We might set up fairly defensive and keep it reasonably close for 45/50 mins. Then that bench Monaghan have will come on and run riot in last 20 mins. It will end up being a bad loss, something like 2-19 to 0-7 after being 0-9 to 0-5 at ht.
Title: Re: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: sambostar on July 14, 2017, 10:50:22 AM
If results go as expected it looks like a fair chance of a Tyrone V Monaghan rematch in AIQF

If Tyrone and Dublin win then Monaghan will have to play Kildare in R4 qualifier (as Monaghan can't play Down again)

If Kildare win that then they'll play Tyrone in AIQF (as Kildare can't play Dublin again)

If Monaghan beat Kildare it's then 50/50 whether they play Tyrone or Dublin in AIQF

I would much prefer Dublin to be facing Monaghan as playing Tyrone would be a role reversal of AIQF's in 2013 and 2015 when Tyrone came through the qualifiers to turn over the Ulster champions
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Post by: Main Street on July 14, 2017, 11:34:24 AM
If results go as expected it looks like a fair chance of a Tyrone V Monaghan rematch in AIQF

If Tyrone and Dublin win then Monaghan will have to play Kildare in R4 qualifier (as Monaghan can't play Down again)

If Kildare win that then they'll play Tyrone in AIQF (as Kildare can't play Dublin again)

If Monaghan beat Kildare it's then 50/50 whether they play Tyrone or Dublin in AIQF

I would much prefer Dublin to be facing Monaghan as playing Tyrone would be a role reversal of AIQF's in 2013 and 2015 when Tyrone came through the qualifiers to turn over the Ulster champions

It is still a possibility for Monaghan and Down to meet  if both Monaghan and Armagh win their respective 3rd rd qualifiers.
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Post by: sambostar on July 14, 2017, 12:07:51 PM
If results go as expected it looks like a fair chance of a Tyrone V Monaghan rematch in AIQF

If Tyrone and Dublin win then Monaghan will have to play Kildare in R4 qualifier (as Monaghan can't play Down again)

If Kildare win that then they'll play Tyrone in AIQF (as Kildare can't play Dublin again)

If Monaghan beat Kildare it's then 50/50 whether they play Tyrone or Dublin in AIQF

I would much prefer Dublin to be facing Monaghan as playing Tyrone would be a role reversal of AIQF's in 2013 and 2015 when Tyrone came through the qualifiers to turn over the Ulster champions

It is still a possibility for Monaghan and Down to meet  if both Monaghan and Armagh win their respective 3rd rd qualifiers.
Oh right yeah, that leaves a lot of permutations then having to come through for Tyrone and Monaghan to meet
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Post by: Rossfan on July 15, 2017, 07:16:25 PM
Some awful wides by Monaghan.
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Post by: dublin7 on July 15, 2017, 07:18:00 PM
Some awful wides by Monaghan.

Missed the start of the game . Who is the monaghan cheerleader on sky sports. So biased it's ridiculous. Head wrecking stuff.
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Post by: laoislad on July 15, 2017, 07:20:41 PM
C'mon Carlow
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Post by: Rossfan on July 15, 2017, 07:25:25 PM
Some awful wides by Monaghan.

Missed the start of the game . Who is the monaghan cheerleader on sky sports. So biased it's ridiculous. Head wrecking stuff.

Dick Clerking I think.
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Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 15, 2017, 07:28:24 PM
The Carlow goalie likes his dinners.  :-[
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Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 15, 2017, 07:29:22 PM
that's not side to side
elbow into the ribs
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Post by: Cunny Funt on July 15, 2017, 07:30:32 PM
30mins played Carlow giving a good account of themselves against Div one opposition again. Fair play to them! its so much better holding their own in this type of game than some "B" championship game with few at it or interested in it.
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Post by: Zulu on July 15, 2017, 07:34:16 PM
Fair dues to Carlow and all but it's awful to watch as a neutral.
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Post by: dublin7 on July 15, 2017, 07:37:02 PM
30mins played Carlow giving a good account of themselves against Div one opposition again. Fair play to them! its so much better holding their own in this type of game than some "B" championship game with few at it or interested in it.

Pointless post referencing "B" championship. The reason they got this far is by playing fellow div 4 teams of their own standard. Imagine if they could do that every summer. Carlow should have had a goal.

Darren Hughes is like Connolly in terms of discipline. No self control
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Post by: Blowitupref on July 15, 2017, 07:39:33 PM
Fair dues to Carlow and all but it's awful to watch as a neutral.
I'm a neutral and enjoying it. intriguing contest more than awful watch IMO.
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Post by: Rossfan on July 15, 2017, 07:41:11 PM
I'don't say Down and Kildare won't fear Monaghan ir Armagh anyway.
Awful game 8 points and 11 or 12 wides.
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Post by: weareros on July 15, 2017, 07:43:36 PM
Carlow should be ahead here but inability to take scores killing them.
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Post by: Zulu on July 15, 2017, 07:44:40 PM
Each to their own but I don't find a team hand passing across their own 45, poor wides, little or no kicking and pot shots from 50m intriguing. It's barely watchable IMO. I understand Carlow have to do what they can to progress but it's awful to watch. Monaghan are also running very poor angles and seem to be only able to play in front of Carlow and hope to kick from distance. Football by tactic board.
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Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 15, 2017, 07:55:48 PM
Monaghan are very formulaic team, they really don't play off the cuff
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Post by: Buttofthehill on July 15, 2017, 07:58:48 PM
It's about time the refs started using the black card for remonstrating with an official.
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Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 15, 2017, 08:01:37 PM
are Monaghan switching the footballs?
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Post by: Blowitupref on July 15, 2017, 08:05:58 PM
Each to their own but I don't find a team hand passing across their own 45, poor wides, little or no kicking and pot shots from 50m intriguing. It's barely watchable IMO. I understand Carlow have to do what they can to progress but it's awful to watch. Monaghan are also running very poor angles and seem to be only able to play in front of Carlow and hope to kick from distance. Football by tactic board.

You are consistent in your view i give you that. Give me this type of competitive game any day of the week than some turkey shoot whereby the defeated side defends poorly throughout.
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Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 15, 2017, 08:06:42 PM
Monaghan are actually fairly shite. Keep 'er colourful Carlow! ;)
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Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 15, 2017, 08:07:04 PM
Monaghan very flat. Carlow are playing as good as a Div 4 team can play. If Carlow win this will be far worse than last year.
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Post by: Rossfan on July 15, 2017, 08:08:21 PM
Monaghan absolutely dire.
Carlow are as they are and just might win it!!
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Post by: dublin7 on July 15, 2017, 08:10:51 PM
Monaghan should be down to 14 men. Brendan Murphy taken out wh an elbow to the face after giving a pass. If he'd stayed down ref would have had to deal with it.
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Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 15, 2017, 08:11:22 PM
that Carlow point was over
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Post by: Blowitupref on July 15, 2017, 08:11:42 PM
Goal for Carlow!
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Post by: Zulu on July 15, 2017, 08:12:58 PM
Each to their own but I don't find a team hand passing across their own 45, poor wides, little or no kicking and pot shots from 50m intriguing. It's barely watchable IMO. I understand Carlow have to do what they can to progress but it's awful to watch. Monaghan are also running very poor angles and seem to be only able to play in front of Carlow and hope to kick from distance. Football by tactic board.

You are consistent in your view i give you that. Give me this type of competitive game any day of the week than some turkey shoot whereby the defeated side defends poorly throughout.

Like I say, if you enjoy it then more power to you but if this game was common we could just play 10 minute games to give everyone a punchers chance.
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Post by: Zulu on July 15, 2017, 08:14:10 PM
Monaghan in trouble now.
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Post by: Buttofthehill on July 15, 2017, 08:15:55 PM
Monaghan arn't designed to play against a defensive team
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Post by: seafoid on July 15, 2017, 08:16:04 PM
So its Armagh v the Dubs next in the clubhouse of Orior's golf coursenb
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Post by: Blowitupref on July 15, 2017, 08:16:59 PM
55 mins gone Carlow 1-6 Monaghan 0-7 like i already said intriguing contest.
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Post by: dublin7 on July 15, 2017, 08:21:24 PM
Monaghan really lacking in leadership. The sub McCarthy only one showing in the forwards. A lot of players hiding. Fatigue kicking in for carlow
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Post by: Blowitupref on July 15, 2017, 08:23:19 PM
Level again good response to the goal conceded by Monaghan. 61 mins gone Carlow 1-6 Monaghan 0-9
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Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 15, 2017, 08:24:44 PM
Monaghan finally pushing up on kickouts, Carlow are going to struggle
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Post by: Buttofthehill on July 15, 2017, 08:27:06 PM
McManus is havin a day to forget anyway
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Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 15, 2017, 08:27:47 PM
there's McManus now
wrestling a lad to the ground
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Post by: imtommygunn on July 15, 2017, 08:29:47 PM
Monaghan seem to struggle outside league and ulster championship.

Where is mccarron ? He not featuring?
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Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 15, 2017, 08:29:55 PM
Carlow have kicked this game away

soft goal for Monaghan
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Post by: dublin7 on July 15, 2017, 08:30:48 PM
Carlow are out on their feet. Ref has given monaghan some soft frees as Well. Carlow can't buy a free
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Post by: Buttofthehill on July 15, 2017, 08:31:19 PM
Carlow have kicked this game away

soft goal for Monaghan

Strangled at midfield
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Post by: Zulu on July 15, 2017, 08:32:44 PM
Monaghan do enough. Poor fare but you can't blame Carlow for setting up as they did. A bit surprised that Monaghan weren't better equipped to break them down though they'll not meet anyone playing like that from here on in.
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Post by: Blowitupref on July 15, 2017, 08:38:04 PM
Best team won FT Carlow 1-7 Monaghan 1-12. Hard luck to the underdogs Carlow used the right tactics that gave themselves the best chance of causing the upset of the summer and led until the 60 minute but Monaghans superior fitness at the end a telling difference.
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Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 15, 2017, 08:38:20 PM
Kieran Hughes has been the best Monaghan player, by a long way
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Post by: Zulu on July 15, 2017, 08:39:17 PM
Kieran Hughes has been the best Monaghan player, by a long way

Definitely.
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Post by: Jinxy on July 15, 2017, 08:42:09 PM
If I had to pick one of the Queueses to play for Meath, it would be him.
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Post by: Niall8100 on July 15, 2017, 08:43:33 PM
Monaghan have kicked 15 or more wides against Cavan, Down and now Carlow. It's been absolutely killing them and if they don't sort it out they won't get to a quarter final never mind win one.
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Post by: dublin7 on July 15, 2017, 08:44:47 PM
Kieran Hughes has been the best Monaghan player, by a long way

McCarron was on fire in the league but can't handle the physical stakes in the championship. Really disappointed in him. I thought bringing on the no 25 and Carlow running out of steam where the reasons monaghan won. Does Darren Hughes get a suspension now for black cards?
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Post by: Main Street on July 15, 2017, 08:44:54 PM
Easy for Monaghan in the end, undoubted class put bad losers but plucky Carlow to the sword.
Good timely subs by our Malachy.
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Post by: Cunny Funt on July 15, 2017, 08:46:53 PM
Hard luck to Carlow died with their boots on and to think the grey hair men in suits at congress will likely deprive counties like Carlow having championship games like this against Div one opposition in the years ahead.
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Post by: ballinaman on July 15, 2017, 08:47:36 PM
Monaghan were stink.
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Post by: Main Street on July 15, 2017, 08:55:39 PM
Monaghan were stink.
You insult Carlow's mighty efforts to keep the game close until the last 1/4.
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Post by: Rossfan on July 15, 2017, 09:02:33 PM
Hard luck to Carlow died with their boots on and to think the grey hair men in suits at congress will likely deprive counties like Carlow having championship games like this against Div one opposition in the years ahead.
Is there a Motion before Congress?
Does every one at Congress wear a suit?
Just remember Carlow bet 3 Div 4 teams to get there. Probably never happen again that they'll get such fortunate draws.
They need to get themselves out of Div 4 now if they want to develop further.
Dare I suggest that Monaghan are gone well past their sell by date?
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Post by: Owen Brannigan on July 15, 2017, 09:11:41 PM
Qualifiers Round 4
In the fourth round of the qualifiers, the four winning teams from round 3 play the four beaten provincial finalists. Round 4 draw rules do not allow two teams that have played each other in a provincial match to meet again if such a pairing can be avoided. The matches are normally held in neutral venues.

Armagh
Monaghan
Down/Tyrone
Kildare/Dublin

Does this rule mean that should Down lose on Sunday that they cannot play Armagh or Monaghan?
Title: Re: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: From the Bunker on July 15, 2017, 09:12:12 PM
Hard luck to Carlow died with their boots on and to think the grey hair men in suits at congress will likely deprive counties like Carlow having championship games like this against Div one opposition in the years ahead.
Is there a Motion before Congress?
Does every one at Congress wear a suit?
Just remember Carlow bet 3 Div 4 teams to get there. Probably never happen again that they'll get such fortunate draws.
They need to get themselves out of Div 4 now if they want to develop further.
Dare I suggest that Monaghan are gone well past their sell by date?

Monaghan won! The games after this will show where they are at. These games are all about winning, not getting injured or suspended! Hold the Jury yet!
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Post by: Owenmoresider on July 15, 2017, 09:15:37 PM
Qualifiers Round 4
In the fourth round of the qualifiers, the four winning teams from round 3 play the four beaten provincial finalists. Round 4 draw rules do not allow two teams that have played each other in a provincial match to meet again if such a pairing can be avoided. The matches are normally held in neutral venues.

Armagh
Monaghan
Down/Tyrone
Kildare/Dublin

Does this rule mean that should Down lose on Sunday that they cannot play Armagh or Monaghan?
That's the key bit there, it can't be avoided so if Down are in Round 4 they'll have to play one of them.
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Post by: Cunny Funt on July 15, 2017, 09:18:50 PM
Hard luck to Carlow died with their boots on and to think the grey hair men in suits at congress will likely deprive counties like Carlow having championship games like this against Div one opposition in the years ahead.
Is there a Motion before Congress?
Does every one at Congress wear a suit?
Just remember Carlow bet 3 Div 4 teams to get there. Probably never happen again that they'll get such fortunate draws.
They need to get themselves out of Div 4 now if they want to develop further.
Dare I suggest that Monaghan are gone well past their sell by date?

Eventually that motion will be brought in and past just the like U21 football championship was eventually scrapped even though the majority of players,supporters wanted to keep it.

Most wear suits and have grey hair in congress and all will eventually nod their heads to what Paraic Duffy wants.

Doesn't matter who Carlow played in between. They played two Div one teams this summer and gave a good account of themselves in both games.

Time will tell about Monaghan, right now they remain established Div one team and are on course for another All Ireland quarter final.
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Post by: SouthDublinBro on July 15, 2017, 09:42:00 PM
Always seems to be some sort of unpleasant incident, red card or ugly scuffle in every Monaghan game. Probably the scummiest team of players in Ireland right now.
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Post by: Rossfan on July 15, 2017, 09:45:06 PM
Any evidence that a majority of players and supporters wanted U21 kept?
I've not seen any  anyway.

Poor oul Paraic Duffy's seems to have taken over from the GPA as the bete noir of GAA Boarders.
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Post by: Cunny Funt on July 15, 2017, 10:17:23 PM
Any evidence that a majority of players and supporters wanted U21 kept?
I've not seen any  anyway.

Poor oul Paraic Duffy's seems to have taken over from the GPA as the bete noir of GAA Boarders.
Eyes and ears is normally enough evidence. Nothing poor about him just a bit of a smug dictator. 
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Post by: dublin7 on July 15, 2017, 10:26:43 PM
Always seems to be some sort of unpleasant incident, red card or ugly scuffle in every Monaghan game. Probably the scummiest team of players in Ireland right now.
Indeed. Monaghan players seemed disgusted with the fact Carlow refused to lie down and give them an easy victory. This Monaghan team is a bit like the dubs under Pillar Caffrey. Look good when given time and space but crumble when put under pressure.
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Post by: seafoid on July 15, 2017, 11:02:37 PM
So after round 3 there are 7 division 1 teams, 4 division 2 teams and 1 division 3 team left.
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Post by: Zulu on July 15, 2017, 11:05:50 PM
Any evidence that a majority of players and supporters wanted U21 kept?
I've not seen any  anyway.

Poor oul Paraic Duffy's seems to have taken over from the GPA as the bete noir of GAA Boarders.
Eyes and ears is normally enough evidence. Nothing poor about him just a bit of a smug dictator.

Nonsense. If you don't know what you're talking about perhaps you shouldn't highlight it.
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Post by: armaghniac on July 15, 2017, 11:18:48 PM
So after round 3 there are 7 division 1 teams, 4 division 2 teams and 1 division 3 team left.

And Armagh should really be a division 2 team .
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Post by: tonto1888 on July 15, 2017, 11:48:41 PM
Are the round 4B qualifiers in Croke Park?
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Post by: seafoid on July 16, 2017, 12:01:22 AM
So after round 3 there are 7 division 1 teams, 4 division 2 teams and 1 division 3 team left.

And Armagh should really be a division 2 team .
If it wasn't for those pesky kids they would have got away with it.
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Post by: Captain Obvious on July 16, 2017, 12:03:16 AM
Any evidence that a majority of players and supporters wanted U21 kept?
I've not seen any  anyway.

Poor oul Paraic Duffy's seems to have taken over from the GPA as the bete noir of GAA Boarders.
Eyes and ears is normally enough evidence. Nothing poor about him just a bit of a smug dictator.

Nonsense. If you don't know what you're talking about perhaps you shouldn't highlight it.

In fairness what he said wasn't nonsense. The U21 All Ireland championship grade was very popular with supporters and players (past and present) and both have spoken out in big numbers at their dismay at this competition getting scrapped. Worst of all the Hurling U21 championship was kept while the football one is to be replaced by a diluted U20 version championship and to be played at this time of year.
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Post by: Zulu on July 16, 2017, 12:11:43 AM
That doesn't make him smug or a dictator so it is nonsense. Besides, there are good reasons to move to U17 and U20 even if it is odd that hurling didn't change but I'm sure it will.
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Post by: Rossfan on July 16, 2017, 12:40:26 AM
I hear very few people complaining about the U20 coming in.
The U21 didn't draw very big crowds so obviously wasn't all that popular with supporters.
And the U20 was VOTED IN BY CONGRESS which is the GAA's supreme authority.
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Post by: Captain Obvious on July 16, 2017, 01:22:38 AM
I opened last two U-21 championship threads on here and they were very popular. Popular on other forums also.

Was arguably bigger crowds at U21 football championship games than a lot of senior qualifiers. Should be noted Mr Duffy was trying for a full decade to scrap the U21 grade, he finally achieved it by going around the country convincing enough county reps to accept his watered down U20 competition and the congress vote was formality after that.

One of the biggest disappointment i have about the GAA is its top brass ignoring players and supporters voice and IMO that is not the way things should be done in amateur game.
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Post by: Zulu on July 16, 2017, 01:48:42 AM
If your county or club representatives don't represent you then that's something that needs to be addressed but isn't Duffy's problem. There're are very good reasons and medical support for the changes made. We were flogging some of our best players and the changes made needed to be done and are only the start of it. We still have a way to go.
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Post by: Main Street on July 16, 2017, 01:52:23 AM
You can't fight in the wrong war room.
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Post by: Zulu on July 16, 2017, 01:57:59 AM
We aren't in the wrong war room. If we had the balls to address the real issues then we could improve in a matter of months but people like Duffy have to move like molasses because GAA folk won't make the changes required.
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Post by: Main Street on July 16, 2017, 02:04:37 AM
We aren't in the wrong war room. If we had the balls to address the real issues then we could improve in a matter of months but people like Duffy have to move like molasses because GAA folk won't make the changes required.
And what has the u21 u20 u17 to do with the sacred qualifier thread?
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Post by: Zulu on July 16, 2017, 02:07:09 AM
Sorry, misunderstood. Fair enough!
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Post by: Owen Brannigan on July 16, 2017, 08:58:26 AM
Are the round 4B qualifiers in Croke Park?

No reason to assume so unless Dublin are in the draw and even then they could be sent to Breffini Park to enjoy its unique traffic chaos. The 4A games are in Gaelic Grounds, Limerick and Markievicz Park, Sligo which are neutral and geographically acceptable.
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Post by: OgraAnDun on July 16, 2017, 09:22:43 AM
Are the round 4B qualifiers in Croke Park?

No reason to assume so unless Dublin are in the draw and even then they could be sent to Breffini Park to enjoy its unique traffic chaos. The 4A games are in Gaelic Grounds, Limerick and Markievicz Park, Sligo which are neutral and geographically acceptable.

Unless I'm mistaken, Round 4B games are usually in a Croker as a double header on the saturday before the A side quarter finals on the Sunday. 4B qualifiers the 29th of July and quarters on the 30th.
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Post by: macdanger2 on July 16, 2017, 09:25:02 AM
Are the round 4B qualifiers in Croke Park?

No reason to assume so unless Dublin are in the draw and even then they could be sent to Breffini Park to enjoy its unique traffic chaos. The 4A games are in Gaelic Grounds, Limerick and Markievicz Park, Sligo which are neutral and geographically acceptable.

Unless I'm mistaken, Round 4B games are usually in a Croker as a double header on the saturday before the A side quarter finals on the Sunday. 4B qualifiers the 29th of July and quarters on the 30th.

Yeah, that's how it was last year anyway
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Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 16, 2017, 09:30:02 AM
Are the round 4B qualifiers in Croke Park?

No reason to assume so unless Dublin are in the draw and even then they could be sent to Breffini Park to enjoy its unique traffic chaos. The 4A games are in Gaelic Grounds, Limerick and Markievicz Park, Sligo which are neutral and geographically acceptable.

Unless I'm mistaken, Round 4B games are usually in a Croker as a double header on the saturday before the A side quarter finals on the Sunday. 4B qualifiers the 29th of July and quarters on the 30th.
might not be, with U2 in Croker the weekend before
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Post by: mayo.mick on July 16, 2017, 10:53:46 AM
Both 3B games are on Saturday 29th.
Both 4A games are on Sunday 30th. Venues times tbc.
Leinster and Ulster v 4B winners on the 5th Aug, venue &time tbc.
Title: Re: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: David McKeown on July 16, 2017, 11:22:09 AM
Only got round to watching the Carlow - Monaghan match today. Some effort by Carlow who were frightfully unlucky not to be able to hold on just a few minutes more.  The Monaghan goal was borderline square ball as well.
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Post by: Main Street on July 16, 2017, 12:34:50 PM
Only got round to watching the Carlow - Monaghan match today. Some effort by Carlow who were frightfully unlucky not to be able to hold on just a few minutes more.  The Monaghan goal was borderline square ball as well.
Carlow did excellent for 3/4 of the game. but frightfully unlucky not to hold on? you have to be joking..
They weren't unlucky not to hold on in the last 1/4, they camped a ruck of players in front of their goal. Once Monaghan drew level it was just a matter of picking the scores off as more space opened up at the back.  The Drew Wiley inspired point put them ahead, the goal followed soon after and it was totally legit, not even close to being borderline. With both moves  the Monaghan players had more space to pick their scores and executed them with aplomb.

Title: Re: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: David McKeown on July 16, 2017, 03:03:09 PM
Only got round to watching the Carlow - Monaghan match today. Some effort by Carlow who were frightfully unlucky not to be able to hold on just a few minutes more.  The Monaghan goal was borderline square ball as well.
Carlow did excellent for 3/4 of the game. but frightfully unlucky not to hold on? you have to be joking..
They weren't unlucky not to hold on in the last 1/4, they camped a ruck of players in front of their goal. Once Monaghan drew level it was just a matter of picking the scores off as more space opened up at the back.  The Drew Wiley inspired point put them ahead, the goal followed soon after and it was totally legit, not even close to being borderline. With both moves  the Monaghan players had more space to pick their scores and executed them with aplomb.

In fairness I think you are right I overstated it about them being unlucky Monaghan were easily the better team and deserved the win. I do think the goal was square ball though and until that point Carlow were still in the game.
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Post by: gwan-ye-boy-ya on July 16, 2017, 03:22:11 PM
Always seems to be some sort of unpleasant incident, red card or ugly scuffle in every Monaghan game. Probably the scummiest team of players in Ireland right now.

A good bit like dublin then
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Post by: Give and Go on July 16, 2017, 03:50:37 PM
Only got round to watching the Carlow - Monaghan match today. Some effort by Carlow who were frightfully unlucky not to be able to hold on just a few minutes more.  The Monaghan goal was borderline square ball as well.
Carlow did excellent for 3/4 of the game. but frightfully unlucky not to hold on? you have to be joking..
They weren't unlucky not to hold on in the last 1/4, they camped a ruck of players in front of their goal. Once Monaghan drew level it was just a matter of picking the scores off as more space opened up at the back.  The Drew Wiley inspired point put them ahead, the goal followed soon after and it was totally legit, not even close to being borderline. With both moves  the Monaghan players had more space to pick their scores and executed them with aplomb.
Hardly so. Only Carlow coughed up two balls after they scored their goal and a man was shouldered out over the sideline, Monaghan would have been gone. Fair play to them they maximised these turnovers to get the scores and see out the game. But if Carlow had scored a point after their goal well it could have been a different result. Great physical tussle that will stand to Monaghan - far better than another facile win like down in Wexford.

In fairness I think you are right I overstated it about them being unlucky Monaghan were easily the better team and deserved the win. I do think the goal was square ball though and until that point Carlow were still in the game.
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Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 16, 2017, 04:00:39 PM
Always seems to be some sort of unpleasant incident, red card or ugly scuffle in every Monaghan game. Probably the scummiest team of players in Ireland right now.

A good bit like dublin then
not really
generally this dublin team aren't like that, one or two exceptions of course
Title: Re: all ireland football qualifiers 2017.
Post by: Main Street on July 17, 2017, 12:51:43 AM
Only got round to watching the Carlow - Monaghan match today. Some effort by Carlow who were frightfully unlucky not to be able to hold on just a few minutes more.  The Monaghan goal was borderline square ball as well.
Carlow did excellent for 3/4 of the game. but frightfully unlucky not to hold on? you have to be joking..
They weren't unlucky not to hold on in the last 1/4, they camped a ruck of players in front of their goal. Once Monaghan drew level it was just a matter of picking the scores off as more space opened up at the back.  The Drew Wiley inspired point put them ahead, the goal followed soon after and it was totally legit, not even close to being borderline. With both moves  the Monaghan players had more space to pick their scores and executed them with aplomb.

In fairness I think you are right I overstated it about them being unlucky Monaghan were easily the better team and deserved the win. I do think the goal was square ball though and until that point Carlow were still in the game.
Sorry to take away your last straw, the square ball :)

You'll see here that the ball has left the Monaghan player's hands on the right and Kelly to the left is well outside the square.

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Post by: David McKeown on July 17, 2017, 08:20:44 AM
My eyesight must be away because it looks to me like he is at least partially in the square there. Anyway I'll take your word for it although I think you are being very generous to suggest he is well outside and that it's not borderline.
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Post by: Ball Hopper on July 17, 2017, 08:37:14 AM
Monaghan v Down

Armagh v Kildare
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Post by: GrandMasterFlash on July 17, 2017, 08:37:20 AM
Down!  ;)
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Post by: illdecide on July 17, 2017, 08:41:00 AM
Tough draw for Armagh...Kildare looked a decent side and Armagh will be the underdogs for this game
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Post by: punt kick on July 17, 2017, 08:43:02 AM
Are these neutral venues?
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Post by: Smokin Joe on July 17, 2017, 08:44:36 AM
Are these neutral venues?

Yes.  Where is the Kildare v Armagh game likely to be played? They'd hardly take that game to Croke Park by itself?
And surely they wouldn't take Down v Monaghan to Croke Park?
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Post by: illdecide on July 17, 2017, 08:45:43 AM
Are these neutral venues?

Yes, TBC later today by CCCC. Double header in Croke Pk is the talk
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Post by: GrandMasterFlash on July 17, 2017, 09:04:25 AM
Tough draw for Armagh...Kildare looked a decent side and Armagh will be the underdogs for this game

Kildare missing Fealy and Doyle.. If Clarke continues his form I'd fancy Armagh.
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Post by: Owen Brannigan on July 17, 2017, 09:07:29 AM
Are these neutral venues?

Yes, TBC later today by CCCC. Double header in Croke Pk is the talk

It will take more than a week for the pitch to recover after U2 next weekend.  Especially given the complaints by Jim Gavin yesterday.
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Post by: GrandMasterFlash on July 17, 2017, 09:10:08 AM
Are these neutral venues?

Yes, TBC later today by CCCC. Double header in Croke Pk is the talk

It will take more than a week for the pitch to recover after U2 next weekend.  Especially given the complaints by Jim Gavin yesterday.

I'll take anywhere, bar the Athletic Grounds  ;)
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Post by: Main Street on July 17, 2017, 10:27:54 AM
After encounters with Banty's thugs and the Battle of Carlow, we should be well prepared for a renewal of hostilities with Down.
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Post by: Main Street on July 17, 2017, 10:34:25 AM
My eyesight must be away because it looks to me like he is at least partially in the square there. Anyway I'll take your word for it although I think you are being very generous to suggest he is well outside and that it's not borderline.
Okay, well outside is defined in this context as a clear space between the player and the square, borderline is a whisker away.
Both the nr 5 and Kelly have a space between them and the line, in fact  their positioning is similar to the Carlow players before their goal was scored. No one on the tv ( commentators or pundits) questioned both goals, for good reason.
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Post by: Main Street on July 17, 2017, 11:37:31 AM
29th July
17.00 Monaghan v Down
19.00 Kildare v Armagh

 
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Post by: omagh_gael on July 17, 2017, 11:55:57 AM
29th July
17.00 Monaghan v Down
19.00 Kildare v Armagh

Croker I presume?
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Post by: seafoid on July 17, 2017, 12:00:41 PM
IF Monaghan don't beat Down the second time around they will get a third go in the Mushroom classic on the undercard of the Mayweather / McGregor fight in August .
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Post by: yellowcard on July 17, 2017, 12:39:04 PM
After the next round we will probably have the following teams left in the quarter finals:

Dublin
Kerry
Roscommon
Tyrone
Mayo
Galway/Donegal 50/50 game this
Monaghan
Kildare

All are division 1 teams next year bar Roscommon who were division 1 themselves this year. Proof that the early stages of the championship are just shadow boxing and these so called super 8's are already currently in existence.....it's called the national league.
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Post by: Syferus on July 17, 2017, 12:43:17 PM
After the next round we will probably have the following teams left in the quarter finals:

Dublin
Kerry
Roscommon
Tyrone
Mayo
Galway/Donegal 50/50 game this
Monaghan
Kildare

All are division 1 teams next year bar Roscommon who were division 1 themselves this year. Proof that the early stages of the championship are just shadow boxing and these so called super 8's are already currently in existence.....it's called the national league.

Hardly. The best teams are at the top regardless, they weren't made the best because they were in D1.
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Post by: seafoid on July 17, 2017, 01:12:11 PM
After the next round we will probably have the following teams left in the quarter finals:

Dublin
Kerry
Roscommon
Tyrone
Mayo
Galway/Donegal 50/50 game this
Monaghan
Kildare

All are division 1 teams next year bar Roscommon who were division 1 themselves this year. Proof that the early stages of the championship are just shadow boxing and these so called super 8's are already currently in existence.....it's called the national league.
That is the way it is. May to Mid July is the prologue
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Post by: JoG2 on July 22, 2017, 10:13:20 AM
Both games tonight are on Murdoch's Sky! That's not right boys