In keeping with other threads just opened.
Outright winners
Tipperary 2/1
Armagh 9/4
Laois 11/4
Offaly 10/1
Longford 14/1
Sligo 16/1
Louth 16/1
Antrim 25/1
For Promotion
Tipperary 4/6
Armagh 8/11
Laois evens
Offaly 4/1
Longford 11/2
Sligo 6/1
Louth 13/2
Antrim 15/2
For Relegation
Antrim 1/3
Louth 11/8
Sligo 2/1
Longford 9/4
Offaly 11/4
Laois 6/1
Tipperary 10/1
Armagh 10/1
My money would (heart aside) be on Armagh and Laois to be promoted with Laois the winners
Antrim and Sligo for the basement.
My predictions for this weekend
Laois v Louth home win
Longford v Offaly draw.
Sligo v Armagh away win
Tipp v Antrim home win
Let the games commence
Laois v Louth Laois
Longford v Offaly Longford
Sligo v Armagh Sligo
Tipp v Antrim Tipp.
Laois and Tipp to be promoted.
Offaly and Armagh to be relegated.
Was at both Tipp McGrath Cup games and wasn`t impressed . Lacked fitness and sharpness . Very surprised to see them as favorites . That said they were missing many of last years players and tried out some new lads , however was shocked at how unfit they were compared to Cork and Kerry !
Quote from: Horse Box on January 30, 2017, 07:46:30 PM
Was at both Tipp McGrath Cup games and wasn`t impressed . Lacked fitness and sharpness . Very surprised to see them as favorites . That said they were missing many of last years players and tried out some new lads , however was shocked at how unfit they were compared to Cork and Kerry !
I couldnt believe that following them two games armagh who were joint favourites drifted while we stayed the same. We have been lucky with the fixtures, two home games against two precieved weaker teams. If we can get two wins we'll be right in there. Kearns has been saying how league isnt a priority and as you say we were miles off in the mcgrath cup games. People are saying antrim arent in a good place, i think they are a brilliant value bet next weekend at 9/2, we have started the last few league campaigns poorly and are missing a few due to injuries, suspension and just not wanting to overwork a couple who have been dealing with injuries the last few years and are being given a break, Couple of the players only joined back up with the panel mid january too as they were on holiday so they havent had long to get up to pace. Hopefully we do have enough class to pull through till we reach the level we need to be at. I expect one of longford or offaly to be challenging for promotion too along with oursleves (hopefully), laois and armagh
Sadly I don't think antrim are going well at all tippabu:-(
Quote from: tippabu on January 30, 2017, 09:04:50 PM
Quote from: Horse Box on January 30, 2017, 07:46:30 PM
Was at both Tipp McGrath Cup games and wasn`t impressed . Lacked fitness and sharpness . Very surprised to see them as favorites . That said they were missing many of last years players and tried out some new lads , however was shocked at how unfit they were compared to Cork and Kerry !
I couldnt believe that following them two games armagh who were joint favourites drifted while we stayed the same. We have been lucky with the fixtures, two home games against two precieved weaker teams. If we can get two wins we'll be right in there. Kearns has been saying how league isnt a priority and as you say we were miles off in the mcgrath cup games. People are saying antrim arent in a good place, i think they are a brilliant value bet next weekend at 9/2, we have started the last few league campaigns poorly and are missing a few due to injuries, suspension and just not wanting to overwork a couple who have been dealing with injuries the last few years and are being given a break, Couple of the players only joined back up with the panel mid january too as they were on holiday so they havent had long to get up to pace. Hopefully we do have enough class to pull through till we reach the level we need to be at. I expect one of longford or offaly to be challenging for promotion too along with oursleves (hopefully), laois and armagh
The players who looked good in those games were Foxy and Kiely , 2 regulars and Liam McGrath v Cork , disappointed with the lack of hunger from the new lads bar Liam Boland . Badger wasn`t too bad but missing the sharpness . Armagh and Laois meet in the second round so we could be in a strong position come the Laois game !
Quote from: tippabu on January 30, 2017, 09:04:50 PM
Quote from: Horse Box on January 30, 2017, 07:46:30 PM
Was at both Tipp McGrath Cup games and wasn`t impressed . Lacked fitness and sharpness . Very surprised to see them as favorites . That said they were missing many of last years players and tried out some new lads , however was shocked at how unfit they were compared to Cork and Kerry !
I couldnt believe that following them two games armagh who were joint favourites drifted while we stayed the same. We have been lucky with the fixtures, two home games against two precieved weaker teams. If we can get two wins we'll be right in there. Kearns has been saying how league isnt a priority and as you say we were miles off in the mcgrath cup games. People are saying antrim arent in a good place, i think they are a brilliant value bet next weekend at 9/2, we have started the last few league campaigns poorly and are missing a few due to injuries, suspension and just not wanting to overwork a couple who have been dealing with injuries the last few years and are being given a break, Couple of the players only joined back up with the panel mid january too as they were on holiday so they havent had long to get up to pace. Hopefully we do have enough class to pull through till we reach the level we need to be at. I expect one of longford or offaly to be challenging for promotion too along with oursleves (hopefully), laois and armagh
That's worrying, and a very 'Kerry' thing to say. For the long term sustainability of Tipp football, you need to be operating in the higher echelons, and holding your own. No point stagnating in Division 3, or worse being relegated back to Division 4. I hope Kearns doesn't really think that.
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 30, 2017, 09:54:25 PM
Quote from: tippabu on January 30, 2017, 09:04:50 PM
Quote from: Horse Box on January 30, 2017, 07:46:30 PM
Was at both Tipp McGrath Cup games and wasn`t impressed . Lacked fitness and sharpness . Very surprised to see them as favorites . That said they were missing many of last years players and tried out some new lads , however was shocked at how unfit they were compared to Cork and Kerry !
I couldnt believe that following them two games armagh who were joint favourites drifted while we stayed the same. We have been lucky with the fixtures, two home games against two precieved weaker teams. If we can get two wins we'll be right in there. Kearns has been saying how league isnt a priority and as you say we were miles off in the mcgrath cup games. People are saying antrim arent in a good place, i think they are a brilliant value bet next weekend at 9/2, we have started the last few league campaigns poorly and are missing a few due to injuries, suspension and just not wanting to overwork a couple who have been dealing with injuries the last few years and are being given a break, Couple of the players only joined back up with the panel mid january too as they were on holiday so they havent had long to get up to pace. Hopefully we do have enough class to pull through till we reach the level we need to be at. I expect one of longford or offaly to be challenging for promotion too along with oursleves (hopefully), laois and armagh
That's worrying, and a very 'Kerry' thing to say. For the long term sustainability of Tipp football, you need to be operating in the higher echelons, and holding your own. No point stagnating in Division 3, or worse being relegated back to Division 4. I hope Kearns doesn't really think that.
Correct and right , we need Division 2 and higher if we are serious about becoming a Football force .
Quote from: laoislad on January 30, 2017, 07:20:41 PM
Laois and Tipp to be promoted.
Offaly and Armagh to be relegated.
Don't be going to matches without your abacus.
We have only 3 home games and it's a tight division so survival would be an acceptable result. I've a hunch we might be slightly better than last year but Sunday will tell a tale. Would be great to pick up points from that one but we'd be underdogs I guess.
When is the last time Laois played Sligo seanie? Must be a good few years?
Quote from: BennyCake on January 30, 2017, 11:57:09 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 30, 2017, 07:20:41 PM
Laois and Tipp to be promoted.
Offaly and Armagh to be relegated.
Don't be going to matches without your abacus.
Sshh now or I'll send Billy Sheehan up to ye to wind you all up again....
Quote from: laoislad on January 31, 2017, 10:04:32 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on January 30, 2017, 11:57:09 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 30, 2017, 07:20:41 PM
Laois and Tipp to be promoted.
Offaly and Armagh to be relegated.
Don't be going to matches without your abacus.
Sshh now or I'll send Billy Sheehan up to ye to wind you all up again....
He's a Dub now, you'll have to send one of your own.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on January 31, 2017, 10:06:51 AM
Quote from: laoislad on January 31, 2017, 10:04:32 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on January 30, 2017, 11:57:09 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 30, 2017, 07:20:41 PM
Laois and Tipp to be promoted.
Offaly and Armagh to be relegated.
Don't be going to matches without your abacus.
Sshh now or I'll send Billy Sheehan up to ye to wind you all up again....
He's a Dub now, you'll have to send one of your own.
Did he ever live in Laois?
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on January 31, 2017, 10:06:51 AM
Quote from: laoislad on January 31, 2017, 10:04:32 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on January 30, 2017, 11:57:09 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 30, 2017, 07:20:41 PM
Laois and Tipp to be promoted.
Offaly and Armagh to be relegated.
Don't be going to matches without your abacus.
Sshh now or I'll send Billy Sheehan up to ye to wind you all up again....
He's a Dub now, you'll have to send one of your own.
What you doing in here... This isn't the Division 4 thread....
Quote from: laoislad on January 31, 2017, 10:03:47 AM
When is the last time Laois played Sligo seanie? Must be a good few years?
You have me there but I've a notion we played each other in Portlaoise not that long ago. I seem to remember something about missed or scored penalties.... Owenmoresider of Sligonian will be able to clarify no doubt. I used to be on the ball with these things but the memory is shot this weather. Getting auld!
Actually it could be a while. The game I'm thinking of was one where Paul Taylor scored two penalties and that was in 2004!
Quote from: laoislad on January 31, 2017, 10:11:20 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on January 31, 2017, 10:06:51 AM
Quote from: laoislad on January 31, 2017, 10:04:32 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on January 30, 2017, 11:57:09 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 30, 2017, 07:20:41 PM
Laois and Tipp to be promoted.
Offaly and Armagh to be relegated.
Don't be going to matches without your abacus.
Sshh now or I'll send Billy Sheehan up to ye to wind you all up again....
He's a Dub now, you'll have to send one of your own.
What you doing in here... This isn't the Division 4 thread....
Keeping the foot in the door
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on January 31, 2017, 10:06:51 AM
Quote from: laoislad on January 31, 2017, 10:04:32 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on January 30, 2017, 11:57:09 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 30, 2017, 07:20:41 PM
Laois and Tipp to be promoted.
Offaly and Armagh to be relegated.
Don't be going to matches without your abacus.
Sshh now or I'll send Billy Sheehan up to ye to wind you all up again....
He's a Dub now, you'll have to send one of your own.
No wonder Billy was singing the wrong anthem. He's moved around so much, he's no idea where he is or where he's from.
Predictions:
Laois v Louth Laois
Tipperary v Antrim Tipperary
Sligo v Armagh Armagh
Longford v Offaly Longford
Any of you Orchard dwellers making the trip to Pairc Markievicz on Sunday?
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 31, 2017, 02:42:47 PM
Any of you Orchard dwellers making the trip to Pairc Markievicz on Sunday?
Yes heading down for the rugby Saturday then staying for the game on Sunday, what are the best bars to go to?
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 31, 2017, 02:42:47 PM
Any of you Orchard dwellers making the trip to Pairc Markievicz on Sunday?
Season ticket ready & waiting for the trip. I am hoping it is more successful than our last visit!!!
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on January 31, 2017, 02:58:47 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 31, 2017, 02:42:47 PM
Any of you Orchard dwellers making the trip to Pairc Markievicz on Sunday?
Yes heading down for the rugby Saturday then staying for the game on Sunday, what are the best bars to go to?
Where are you staying? Are you staying in the town? What kind of a spot are you looking for?
Quote from: BennyCake on January 31, 2017, 12:50:06 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on January 31, 2017, 10:06:51 AM
Quote from: laoislad on January 31, 2017, 10:04:32 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on January 30, 2017, 11:57:09 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 30, 2017, 07:20:41 PM
Laois and Tipp to be promoted.
Offaly and Armagh to be relegated.
Don't be going to matches without your abacus.
Sshh now or I'll send Billy Sheehan up to ye to wind you all up again....
He's a Dub now, you'll have to send one of your own.
No wonder Billy was singing the wrong anthem. He's moved around so much, he's no idea where he is or where he's from.
He's involved with the Cork footballers now apparently. You know things must be getting bad in Cork if they are allowing Kerrymen get involved. Cork 12/1 to be relegated from Division 2 ????
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 31, 2017, 10:27:51 AM
Quote from: laoislad on January 31, 2017, 10:03:47 AM
When is the last time Laois played Sligo seanie? Must be a good few years?
You have me there but I've a notion we played each other in Portlaoise not that long ago. I seem to remember something about missed or scored penalties.... Owenmoresider of Sligonian will be able to clarify no doubt. I used to be on the ball with these things but the memory is shot this weather. Getting auld!
We'd been relegated from D1 in 2005 so I assumed it must be back then but turns out we met in our brief return to the somewhat upper echelons of D2 in 2011, Laois won in Markievicz by three.
Quote from: PW Nally on January 31, 2017, 10:10:55 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on January 31, 2017, 10:06:51 AM
Quote from: laoislad on January 31, 2017, 10:04:32 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on January 30, 2017, 11:57:09 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 30, 2017, 07:20:41 PM
Laois and Tipp to be promoted.
Offaly and Armagh to be relegated.
Don't be going to matches without your abacus.
Sshh now or I'll send Billy Sheehan up to ye to wind you all up again....
He's a Dub now, you'll have to send one of your own.
Did he ever live in Laois?
He did. Surely one night on a couch in Emo counts as living in Laois?
Quote from: SCFC on January 31, 2017, 08:06:52 PM
Quote from: PW Nally on January 31, 2017, 10:10:55 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on January 31, 2017, 10:06:51 AM
Quote from: laoislad on January 31, 2017, 10:04:32 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on January 30, 2017, 11:57:09 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 30, 2017, 07:20:41 PM
Laois and Tipp to be promoted.
Offaly and Armagh to be relegated.
Don't be going to matches without your abacus.
Sshh now or I'll send Billy Sheehan up to ye to wind you all up again....
He's a Dub now, you'll have to send one of your own.
Did he ever live in Laois?
He did. Surely one night on a couch in Emo counts as living in Laois?
That was probably still longer than Seanie Johnston lived in Kildare.
Two from tipp Armagh and Sligo to go up. As long as Armagh are one of them I don't mind who the other is. I'm for Sligo on Sunday. Hopefully better than our last trip there
Still not sure if i'm going to the game or not...i'll decide on Sat nite. What is travel time roughly? would 2 1/2 hours do it?
Quote from: tonto1888 on February 01, 2017, 09:01:34 AM
Two from tipp Armagh and Sligo to go up. As long as Armagh are one of them I don't mind who the other is. I'm for Sligo on Sunday. Hopefully better than our last trip there
Two from Tipp , Armagh and Laois for me , Laois going well in pre season from what I hear . Laois have Armagh and Tipp in the Second and third rounds .
Quote from: Owenmoresider on January 31, 2017, 07:20:57 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 31, 2017, 10:27:51 AM
Quote from: laoislad on January 31, 2017, 10:03:47 AM
When is the last time Laois played Sligo seanie? Must be a good few years?
You have me there but I've a notion we played each other in Portlaoise not that long ago. I seem to remember something about missed or scored penalties.... Owenmoresider of Sligonian will be able to clarify no doubt. I used to be on the ball with these things but the memory is shot this weather. Getting auld!
We'd been relegated from D1 in 2005 so I assumed it must be back then but turns out we met in our brief return to the somewhat upper echelons of D2 in 2011, Laois won in Markievicz by three.
Laois really impressed me that day, ive been to Portlaoise a few times aswell, never much in it, Armagh hot favs on Sunday but they have been very inconsistent last few years, will this match be streamed on any Armagh gaa website?
I see all Laois's home games are on Eirgrid, pity we have them at home this year, don't think ill make it home for any league games this year,
I think the not having Cadden or Kelly are huge losses and we need Hughes back fit, team selections will be interesting, if we stay up ill be happy, we have a tough start at home to Armagh and then away to Tipp, last year we were grossly inconsistent, beating Kildare in Newbridge in an extroadinary game kept us up
Good luck to our lads anyway
If Armagh can win their first two matches then they'll only get stronger filtering senior players back into the team and i'd fancy them for promotion but one thing i've learned over the years is to expect the unexpected from Armagh.
Armagh have 4 home fixtures which you'd think is a big help but our record at AG is quite poor TBh and we play better away from home...We def owe that Laois dort a hiding as they've had our measure this last few years so hopefully we can turn them over ;)
Quote from: illdecide on February 01, 2017, 02:26:01 PM
If Armagh can win their first two matches then they'll only get stronger filtering senior players back into the team and i'd fancy them for promotion but one thing i've learned over the years is to expect the unexpected from Armagh.
Armagh have 4 home fixtures which you'd think is a big help but our record at AG is quite poor TBh and we play better away from home...We def owe that Laois dort a hiding as they've had our measure this last few years so hopefully we can turn them over ;)
Sure if we beat you we will give you another chance the following week if you want....!
Quote from: laoislad on February 01, 2017, 03:28:01 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 01, 2017, 02:26:01 PM
If Armagh can win their first two matches then they'll only get stronger filtering senior players back into the team and i'd fancy them for promotion but one thing i've learned over the years is to expect the unexpected from Armagh.
Armagh have 4 home fixtures which you'd think is a big help but our record at AG is quite poor TBh and we play better away from home...We def owe that Laois dort a hiding as they've had our measure this last few years so hopefully we can turn them over ;)
Sure if we beat you we will give you another chance the following week if you want....!
Laois folk still can't count then?
Quote from: BennyCake on February 01, 2017, 05:32:30 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 01, 2017, 03:28:01 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 01, 2017, 02:26:01 PM
If Armagh can win their first two matches then they'll only get stronger filtering senior players back into the team and i'd fancy them for promotion but one thing i've learned over the years is to expect the unexpected from Armagh.
Armagh have 4 home fixtures which you'd think is a big help but our record at AG is quite poor TBh and we play better away from home...We def owe that Laois dort a hiding as they've had our measure this last few years so hopefully we can turn them over ;)
Sure if we beat you we will give you another chance the following week if you want....!
Laois folk still can't count then?
We can count to 3 anyway...Which is the amount of times we beat Armagh last year... ;D
Bannside from Antrim joining this thread.
See we are 1/3 to get relegated so I'm not going to stick my neck out too far. We have had a horrendous Mc Kenna Cup but I was going through our likely starting team and still expect us to have a good rattle at the weekend and a draw wouldn't surprise me at all.
Quote from: bannside on February 01, 2017, 07:35:17 PM
Bannside from Antrim joining this thread.
See we are 1/3 to get relegated so I'm not going to stick my neck out too far. We have had a horrendous Mc Kenna Cup but I was going through our likely starting team and still expect us to have a good rattle at the weekend and a draw wouldn't surprise me at all.
Antrim 9/2 on Sunday to win ! Tipp haven`t had a good pre season either . Tipp were very lucky to get a draw last year in the first League game in Kilmallock v Limerick , hopefully not as slow to get of the mark this year . Thought we were in for a disaster of a year after watching that game ;D .
If Armagh can just beat them Laois hoors that will make me happy...which i believe they will. Like you say Laoislad we can always try again the following week if the result goes against us ;)
Laois have been going well in preseason but are missing anything up to 13 players for the game against Louth at least 7 starters ...Including full back 2 first choice midfielders centre forward and full forward ..
Louth have a great chance Saturday.
Laois will get stronger by the end of the league by looking at the injuries that they have for the next 6 weeks the first 3 games are going to be a struggle!
Half Time - Louth 1-8 Laois 0-6 !
Louth running away with it now. They've been by far the better team.
Are Louth that good or are Laois that bad?
Laois missing a lot of players and have Armagh and Tipp next. They could face an uphill struggle to stay up if they fail to pick up any momentum for the later rounds.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 04, 2017, 08:20:06 PM
Are Louth that good or are Laois that bad?
Louth have been very good tonight in fairness to them but as good as they have been Laois have been as bad.
2-16 0-10 to Louth for a finish . Louth second favorites for relegation at the start of play !
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 04, 2017, 08:25:07 PM
Laois missing a lot of players and have Armagh and Tipp next. They could face an uphill struggle to stay up if they fail to pick up any momentum for the later rounds.
Yup - don't want to be going into the later rounds in desperate need of points.
Also there score difference is already minus twelve, which is not good after one game.
Quote from: laoislad on February 04, 2017, 08:11:56 PM
Louth running away with it now. They've been by far the better team.
They must have played 7 subs.
Laois could now well find themselves in a relegation battle with 2 difficult games up next. Louth have done well under Kelly considering the amount of players he lost to retirement since he came into the job. Promoted last season and they could be in contention for another top 2 spot although they will need to back this result up with a home victory next time out.
Quote from: BennyCake on February 04, 2017, 10:18:43 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 04, 2017, 08:11:56 PM
Louth running away with it now. They've been by far the better team.
They must have played 7 subs.
Let it go man. We beat ye twice, I know it hurts but it's time to build a bridge.
Quote from: laoislad on February 04, 2017, 11:03:46 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on February 04, 2017, 10:18:43 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 04, 2017, 08:11:56 PM
Louth running away with it now. They've been by far the better team.
They must have played 7 subs.
Let it go man. We beat ye twice, I know it hurts but it's time to build a bridge.
It is a humpy bridge you'd have in Laois
(http://www.buildingsofireland.ie/niah/images/survey_specific/fullsize/12900901_1.jpg)
Quote from: armaghniac on February 04, 2017, 11:14:24 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 04, 2017, 11:03:46 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on February 04, 2017, 10:18:43 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 04, 2017, 08:11:56 PM
Louth running away with it now. They've been by far the better team.
They must have played 7 subs.
Let it go man. We beat ye twice, I know it hurts but it's time to build a bridge.
It is a humpy bridge you'd have in Laois
(http://www.buildingsofireland.ie/niah/images/survey_specific/fullsize/12900901_1.jpg)
That's a picture of the old Dublin road bridge in Durrow where I'm from. Nice find. If it was Facebook I'd give you a thumbs up.
Told ye lads
Laois missing too many senior players ...it was square pegs in round holes
Poor start little organisation and belief drained ...
Louth were decent to be fair
Early doors:
Longford 0-03
Offaly 0-01
Half time:
Longford 0-07
Offaly 0-06
Grim fayre by all accounts
Armagh 6 ahead.
Tipp up by 2 late on. Antrim giving them a game though which is good to see.
Latest:
Longford 0-11
Offaly 0-06
Offaly haven't scored in 2nd half. 20 mins gone
Crap another tipp goal so tipp by 5 with 2 to go.
Final Score:
Longford 1-12
Offaly 0-10
Offaly finish game with 13 men. One straight red and one for 2 yellows. Longford collected 2 black cards.
Good win for Longford and our eyes now focus on a trip to Drogheda next Sunday to face an impressive looking Louth.
Sligo got a penalty with the last kick of the game to draw the match. Slightly biased Sligo commentator on Ocean FM apologised for the daylight robbery! Armagh 2-11 1-14 Sligo FT
Tipp 2-12 antrim 0-13
You'd think the Sligo player would have put it wide on purpose. It was the least he could do.
Sportsmanship, eh?
What the hell happenec Armagh? 6 points in front and conceding 1.14 in the third division?
Armagh cruising
Penalty was a non event
No one even the players understood what it was for
Something must have happened in the square. Very effective negative tactics by Armagh fouling us everytime we got the ball to prevent a fast break. I suppose a draw is a fair result and could be invaluable to us. Trip to Tipp up next for us.
Steffens campbell very good for Armagh by all accounts.
Quote from: sligoman2 on February 05, 2017, 04:42:17 PM
Something must have happened in the square. Very effective negative tactics by Armagh fouling us everytime we got the ball to prevent a fast break. I suppose a draw is a fair result and could be invaluable to us. Trip to Tipp up next for us.
Steffens campbell very good for Armagh by all accounts.
Genuinely sligoman
Where you at the game
Ref kept you guys in it at every stage
You really didn't deserve a draw.
Tipp were bad but had enough in the second half . Fair play to Antrim who gave it everything . Sorry to the away support for the @rsehole in the Stand , he`s not wanted at Tipp games by the home support !
Quote from: sligoman2 on February 05, 2017, 04:42:17 PM
Something must have happened in the square. Very effective negative tactics by Armagh fouling us everytime we got the ball to prevent a fast break. I suppose a draw is a fair result and could be invaluable to us. Trip to Tipp up next for us.
Steffens campbell very good for Armagh by all accounts.
Admittedly I wasn't at it & while Armagh should've put the game to bed...it was obvious, even to the commentators on Ocesn FM that it was a smash & grab job...they were almost apologetic! Fair play to Sligo for playing to the end, but fair result??? I think not.
I wasn't at the game. I don't think a ref awards a penalty for no reason. Look in the mirror, he were up six and let us back in the game and we took advantage of it...
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 05, 2017, 03:38:44 PM
Final Score:
Longford 1-12
Offaly 0-10
Offaly finish game with 13 men. One straight red and one for 2 yellows. Longford collected 2 black cards.
Good win for Longford and our eyes now focus on a trip to Drogheda next Sunday to face an impressive looking Louth.
Discipline problems are starting to cost Offaly bad over the last couple of years, it is something Pat Flanagan needs to work on.
I've been assuming Kildare would be playing Laois in the Leinster quarter final, might need to reappraise that opinion after this weekends results but it is early in the year.
Looks like Armagh have learned nothing from last year,and the importance of getting off to a good start,and not be scrambling for points and dependent on other teams' results at the end.
Our last three Championship games and opening league game have seen defeats to Cavan, Laois (twice) and a draw with Sligo😡😡
I've never seen Sligo play so badly and not lose. The referee was terrible for both sides it has to be said. I'll go through that later when I give a more detailed run through. Armagh are right to be aggrieved at the penalty. It was a scandalous decision. I think he gave it for a hand on Stephen Coen's shoulder but he was nowhere near the ball and if that type of incident is a free....
Armagh though have only themselves to blame. At 6 points up they stopped trying to score and were content to see the game out. Tactical genius himself needs to take a long hard look at himself. Bad as we were we chipped away and got a few scores but didn't create one goal chance all game. The penalty was an incredible present and that could be a vital point for us in our survival battle.
Ye have owed us a penalty since 2002.😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
Quote from: sligoman2 on February 05, 2017, 06:58:36 PM
Ye have owed us a penalty since 2002.😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
Touché
Can't deny that one
I'd have preferred that one in 2002 and it was at least in the ballpark of being one, unlike today. Not sure we would have beaten Dublin and Kerry thereafter though.
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 05, 2017, 06:54:28 PM
I've never seen Sligo play so badly and not lose. The referee was terrible for both sides it has to be said. I'll go through that later when I give a more detailed run through. Armagh are right to be aggrieved at the penalty. It was a scandalous decision. I think he gave it for a hand on Stephen Coen's shoulder but he was nowhere near the ball and if that type of incident is a free....
Armagh though have only themselves to blame. At 6 points up they stopped trying to score and were content to see the game out. Tactical genius himself needs to take a long hard look at himself. Bad as we were we chipped away and got a few scores but didn't create one goal chance all game. The penalty was an incredible present and that could be a vital point for us in our survival battle.
Have to agree totally.
Armagh have a problem also in that their first choice keeper is out for the entire league and the next choice - and aupport- has lost all confidence on kickouts. This cost at least 4 points. With 6 debutantes he had few experienced players to call on
Quote from: T Fearon on February 05, 2017, 06:46:34 PM
Looks like Armagh have learned nothing from last year,and the importance of getting off to a good start,and not be scrambling for points and dependent on other teams' results at the end.
Our last three Championship games and opening league game have seen defeats to Cavan, Laois (twice) and a draw with Sligo😡😡
Ye are guaranteed two points next weekend. :(
Quote from: Throw ball on February 05, 2017, 07:26:54 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 05, 2017, 06:54:28 PM
I've never seen Sligo play so badly and not lose. The referee was terrible for both sides it has to be said. I'll go through that later when I give a more detailed run through. Armagh are right to be aggrieved at the penalty. It was a scandalous decision. I think he gave it for a hand on Stephen Coen's shoulder but he was nowhere near the ball and if that type of incident is a free....
Armagh though have only themselves to blame. At 6 points up they stopped trying to score and were content to see the game out. Tactical genius himself needs to take a long hard look at himself. Bad as we were we chipped away and got a few scores but didn't create one goal chance all game. The penalty was an incredible present and that could be a vital point for us in our survival battle.
Have to agree totally.
Armagh have a problem also in that their first choice keeper is out for the entire league and the next choice - and aupport- has lost all confidence on kickouts. This cost at least 4 points. With 6 debutantes he had few experienced players to call on
Yeah - your kickouts were awful and I think your keeper was fortunate to only get blown for taking too long a couple of times. Our lad the other end gave ye two points back and caused a few coronaries with his solo run in the second half! The guy we have on the bench is a better keeper with a superb kickout and should start from here.
Quote from: Horse Box on February 05, 2017, 04:58:49 PM
Tipp were bad but had enough in the second half . Fair play to Antrim who gave it everything . Sorry to the away support for the @rsehole in the Stand , he`s not wanted at Tipp games by the home support !
What happened?
Murrays black card wreck things for us?
Longford have the 'Bull' Masterson and Darren Gallagher back next week as they were carrying over suspensions. Will certainly need the Bull back if we are to get anything in Drawhada.
No sign of Mickey Quinn to return - perhaps he'll be back for the last few games of the League where hopefully it won't be a relegation dog-fight.
In the Armagh game the ref says he saw a jersey pull. There was a camera right behind it. Surely that can be cleared up. It's either a bad ref or a bad loser
Quote from: smelmoth on February 07, 2017, 06:36:20 PM
In the Armagh game the ref says he saw a jersey pull. There was a camera right behind it. Surely that can be cleared up. It's either a bad ref or a bad loser
Saw the video
Bad ref
Wonder will he try the same this weekend at the st Vincent game where he is in the middle
He would be lynched.
But as the guys say they owe us since 2002.
Laois still missing 7-8 key players ...Get on Armagh this weekend!
Quote from: Unlaoised on February 08, 2017, 10:34:55 AM
Laois still missing 7-8 key players ...Get on Armagh this weekend!
Who are Laois missing? Would the apple munchers be worth putting on the coupon this weekend?
Full back Mark timmons corner back Damien O'connor
2 first choice midfielders John O'Loughlin and Brendan Quigley
Evan O'Carroll (prob second best forward)
Gary Walsh (Forward)
Thats just six off the top of my head but there is more...all injured
ahh sure Armagh are missing just as many but you still have to get on with it...Laois by 6 ;)
Quote from: illdecide on February 08, 2017, 04:40:14 PM
ahh sure Armagh are missing just as many but you still have to get on with it...Laois by 6 ;)
+1
Quote from: illdecide on February 08, 2017, 04:40:14 PM
ahh sure Armagh are missing just as many but you still have to get on with it...Laois by 6 ;)
A February Division 3 game against a reserve Laois team..Bet you'll have an open top bus parade if ye beat us though ;D
Quote from: laoislad on February 08, 2017, 05:51:06 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 08, 2017, 04:40:14 PM
ahh sure Armagh are missing just as many but you still have to get on with it...Laois by 6 ;)
A February Division 3 game against a reserve Laois team..Bet you'll have an open top bus parade if ye beat us though ;D
Def...we'll drink Buckfast Abbey dry if we win
Quote from: illdecide on February 09, 2017, 10:49:45 AM
Quote from: laoislad on February 08, 2017, 05:51:06 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 08, 2017, 04:40:14 PM
ahh sure Armagh are missing just as many but you still have to get on with it...Laois by 6 ;)
A February Division 3 game against a reserve Laois team..Bet you'll have an open top bus parade if ye beat us though ;D
Def...we'll drink Buckfast Abbey dry if we win
Save some to nurse the wounds heading home from Longford on 26th Feb.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 09, 2017, 12:02:13 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 09, 2017, 10:49:45 AM
Quote from: laoislad on February 08, 2017, 05:51:06 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 08, 2017, 04:40:14 PM
ahh sure Armagh are missing just as many but you still have to get on with it...Laois by 6 ;)
A February Division 3 game against a reserve Laois team..Bet you'll have an open top bus parade if ye beat us though ;D
Def...we'll drink Buckfast Abbey dry if we win
Save some to nurse the wounds heading home from Longford on 26th Feb.
You mean we'd need to drink it for a week just to drive into Longford...sure you guys have the best town in Ireland. (Granard)
Quote from: laoislad on February 08, 2017, 05:51:06 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 08, 2017, 04:40:14 PM
ahh sure Armagh are missing just as many but you still have to get on with it...Laois by 6 ;)
A February Division 3 game against a reserve Laois team..Bet you'll have an open top bus parade if ye beat us though ;D
Getting your excuses in early, I see.
QuoteYou mean we'd need to drink it for a week just to drive into Longford...sure you guys have the best town in Ireland. (Granard)
Indeed we do :-\
You can savour its delights on the trip down and back. But if the thirst takes ye I would stop into The Sportsman's Inn in Edgeworthstown. Football central in Longford. If there's a lie worth telling it has been told in here!
Quote from: illdecide on February 09, 2017, 02:33:24 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 09, 2017, 12:02:13 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 09, 2017, 10:49:45 AM
Quote from: laoislad on February 08, 2017, 05:51:06 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 08, 2017, 04:40:14 PM
ahh sure Armagh are missing just as many but you still have to get on with it...Laois by 6 ;)
A February Division 3 game against a reserve Laois team..Bet you'll have an open top bus parade if ye beat us though ;D
Def...we'll drink Buckfast Abbey dry if we win
Save some to nurse the wounds heading home from Longford on 26th Feb.
You mean we'd need to drink it for a week just to drive into Longford...sure you guys have the best town in Ireland. (Granard)
Yeah because Armagh is high on the Lonely Planet guide list of places you have to visit!
Quote from: laoislad on February 09, 2017, 07:40:22 PM
Yeah because Armagh is high on the Lonely Planet guide list of places you have to visit!
Both Armagh city and the county would be on any tourist itinerary of any half educated person, whereas in Longford your best chance is to stay in a forest so that you cannot see the rest of it.
Wait to center parcs arrives ....
Any Sligo people here , if so are ye travelling to Thurles confident ? Tipp are building momentum , poor start on Sunday last , good second half . Bill Maher , Badger Lonergan and Jack Kennedy back next Sunday so hopefully a strong performance from The Premier !
I won't be heading to Thurles myself and not expecting anything out of the game. Armagh should really have beaten us quite easily and we were extremely fortunate to get a late penalty to draw the game. We just have too many passengers that the manager won't address and you can't afford that, especially against better teams. I'm expecting Tipp to win comfortably, unfortunately.
Quotewhereas in Longford your best chance is to stay in a forest so that you cannot see the rest of it.
*slaps thigh*.
Good one sir. Are the National Schools closed in Norn Iron this week?
Right lads stop the slagging here...Verdicts for weekend please?
Tipperary v Sligo Tipp by 6pts
Louth v Longford Louth by 3pts
Offaly v Antrim Draw
Armagh v Laois Armagh by 2pts
I see in I.N. today Tony Kernan has retired...it never just rains in Armagh...fecking pours. Anyway good luck to the lad, he owes Armagh nothing and was a great player...Happy retirement TK
Quote from: illdecide on February 10, 2017, 09:38:43 AM
I see in I.N. today Tony Kernan has retired...it never just rains in Armagh...fecking pours. Anyway good luck to the lad, he owes Armagh nothing and was a great player...Happy retirement TK
I second that. Wish he was still playing though. Him and Aaron
Quote from: illdecide on February 10, 2017, 09:36:51 AM
Right lads stop the slagging here
Do we have to?
Quote
...Verdicts for weekend please?
Tipperary v Sligo
Tipp by 4ptsLouth v Longford
Louth by 3ptsOffaly v Antrim
Offaly by 2Armagh v Laois
Armagh by 3pts Time for Armagh to beat Laois.
Quote from: illdecide on February 10, 2017, 09:38:43 AM
I see in I.N. today Tony Kernan has retired...it never just rains in Armagh...fecking pours. Anyway good luck to the lad, he owes Armagh nothing and was a great player...Happy retirement TK
Feck! Whats the story there? thought he had a wee while left in him yet.
Quote from: lurganblue on February 10, 2017, 10:11:41 AM
Quote from: illdecide on February 10, 2017, 09:38:43 AM
I see in I.N. today Tony Kernan has retired...it never just rains in Armagh...fecking pours. Anyway good luck to the lad, he owes Armagh nothing and was a great player...Happy retirement TK
Feck! Whats the story there? thought he had a wee while left in him yet.
There is no story...think he was looking to retire last year but was convinced to carry on. It's no surprise TBH as it's been talked about for a right few months now. Only 30 or 31 but he's busy with work/family and club.
Tipperary v Sligo - Tipp to win by 6+
Louth v Longford Louth to win 6+
Offaly v Antrim Antrim to win by 1
Armagh v Laois Armagh to win 4+
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 10, 2017, 10:55:56 AM
Tipperary v Sligo - Tipp to win by 6+
Louth v Longford Louth to win 6+
Offaly v Antrim Offaly Antrim to win by 1
Armagh v Laois Armagh to win 4+
Jasus man make up your mind :P
Quote from: illdecide on February 10, 2017, 10:15:10 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on February 10, 2017, 10:11:41 AM
Quote from: illdecide on February 10, 2017, 09:38:43 AM
I see in I.N. today Tony Kernan has retired...it never just rains in Armagh...fecking pours. Anyway good luck to the lad, he owes Armagh nothing and was a great player...Happy retirement TK
Feck! Whats the story there? thought he had a wee while left in him yet.
There is no story...think he was looking to retire last year but was convinced to carry on. It's no surprise TBH as it's been talked about for a right few months now. Only 30 or 31 but he's busy with work/family and club.
Some more fuel for Brolly to add to the McGeeney bashing no doubt. Plus he loves a good crossmaglen rant.
Quote from: illdecide on February 10, 2017, 11:16:33 AM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 10, 2017, 10:55:56 AM
Tipperary v Sligo - Tipp to win by 6+
Louth v Longford Louth to win 6+
Offaly v Antrim Offaly Antrim to win by 1
Armagh v Laois Armagh to win 4+
Jasus man make up your mind :P
Soz - can't copy and paste correctly. Antrim to pull off a surprise here imo.
I love when we are massive underdogs. I think Mark breheny should be a sub as I don't think he has a 70 minute tank. He would be good to have for the last 15 minutes or so.
I expect Coen to start.
What would your starting team be Seanie?
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 10, 2017, 10:55:56 AM
Tipperary v Sligo - Tipp to win by 6+
Louth v Longford Louth to win 6+
Offaly v Antrim Antrim to win by 1
Armagh v Laois Armagh to win 4+
Hold on till I take that knife outta me back....
And me standing up for Longford a few posts back and all....
Sorry Laoislad.
As they say in The Godfather fillums - nothing personal - it's just business.
Having seen Laois stink out my sitting room last Sat evening I fear for ye going into this one.
If I am wrong I will stand you a chicken burger at yon fancy takeaway in Portlaoise in May after the Leinster El Classico.
Maybe take him for a wee fishing trip on the lakes instead!
We make the trip to Tullamore hoping to snatch an away point. Looking forward to a pint of stout and a good steak in the Bridge Hotel after the match.
Quote from: sligoman2 on February 10, 2017, 01:21:10 PM
I love when we are massive underdogs. I think Mark breheny should be a sub as I don't think he has a 70 minute tank. He would be good to have for the last 15 minutes or so.
I expect Coen to start.
What would your starting team be Seanie?
It's a difficult question because I'd have a lot of changes but we're not overburdened with options. I was very concerned with several aspects of the team last week. I'll think about it and maybe PM you.
Are Tipp & Armagh as nailed on as some posters think this weekend?
I'm not confident about Tipp at all. Sligo gave them fits last year, and it's not like home advantage is a massive advantage here. If Tipp win this, and get to 4 points after 2 games, I'd be delighted, and it would set them up for a right run. I think it will be very close though.
Laois always seem to give Armagh bother (well in recent years anyways). I'd be very surprised if Armagh have it all our own way, but I would expect the win in the circumstances.
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 10, 2017, 05:27:56 PM
I'm not confident about Tipp at all. Sligo gave them fits last year, and it's not like home advantage is a massive advantage here. If Tipp win this, and get to 4 points after 2 games, I'd be delighted, and it would set them up for a right run. I think it will be very close though.
Tipp should win this . Antrim made things awkward and we struggled first half but changed tactics and got on top . We are going to play against a lot of Teams who will sit back and we have to get used to this . I am confident , players needed a tough game and expect us to be way sharper on Sunday .
Quote from: Horse Box on February 10, 2017, 07:16:33 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 10, 2017, 05:27:56 PM
I'm not confident about Tipp at all. Sligo gave them fits last year, and it's not like home advantage is a massive advantage here. If Tipp win this, and get to 4 points after 2 games, I'd be delighted, and it would set them up for a right run. I think it will be very close though.
Tipp should win this . Antrim made things awkward and we struggled first half but changed tactics and got on top . We are going to play against a lot of Teams who will sit back and we have to get used to this . I am confident , players needed a tough game and expect us to be way sharper on Sunday .
We are still off the pace some bit but will get better every game, Still struggling with alot of injuries bill maher and ian fahy both injured during the week. Same team named as the last day
Quote from: Horse Box on February 05, 2017, 04:58:49 PM
Tipp were bad but had enough in the second half . Fair play to Antrim who gave it everything . Sorry to the away support for the @rsehole in the Stand , he`s not wanted at Tipp games by the home support !
I take it thats the lad with a shaved head and glasses?
Quote from: tippabu on February 10, 2017, 10:06:14 PM
Quote from: Horse Box on February 05, 2017, 04:58:49 PM
Tipp were bad but had enough in the second half . Fair play to Antrim who gave it everything . Sorry to the away support for the @rsehole in the Stand , he`s not wanted at Tipp games by the home support !
I take it thats the lad with a shaved head and glasses?
Yep . Seen him at the Munster Junior B game in December between Arravale (He`s from Tipp Town I reckon ) and Oola , neighbouring Clubs , different counties and he walking along the sideline past the Oola dugout giving guff , surprised he didn`t get his boll@ck kicked in :o ! ! !
Quote from: Horse Box on February 10, 2017, 07:16:33 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 10, 2017, 05:27:56 PM
I'm not confident about Tipp at all. Sligo gave them fits last year, and it's not like home advantage is a massive advantage here. If Tipp win this, and get to 4 points after 2 games, I'd be delighted, and it would set them up for a right run. I think it will be very close though.
Tipp should win this . Antrim made things awkward and we struggled first half but changed tactics and got on top . We are going to play against a lot of Teams who will sit back and we have to get used to this . I am confident , players needed a tough game and expect us to be way sharper on Sunday .
Tipp had 3 draws last year when people thought they'd be promoted. And they are famous now. Will they get out of D3 this year ? Does Kearns care about the League ?
Quote from: Horse Box on February 11, 2017, 01:04:06 AM
Quote from: tippabu on February 10, 2017, 10:06:14 PM
Quote from: Horse Box on February 05, 2017, 04:58:49 PM
Tipp were bad but had enough in the second half . Fair play to Antrim who gave it everything . Sorry to the away support for the @rsehole in the Stand , he`s not wanted at Tipp games by the home support !
I take it thats the lad with a shaved head and glasses?
Yep . Seen him at the Munster Junior B game in December between Arravale (He`s from Tipp Town I reckon ) and Oola , neighbouring Clubs , different counties and he walking along the sideline past the Oola dugout giving guff , surprised he didn`t get his boll@ck kicked in :o ! ! !
yeah thats the one, hes at every game. hes def not the full shilling (in a serious way not piss take), doesnt excuse him though, hes a danger and gets people wound up. Its hard to keep quiet when you hear some of the shite he constantly comes out with and he gets people from tipp and opposing counties riled up.
Quote from: seafoid on February 11, 2017, 06:59:50 AM
Quote from: Horse Box on February 10, 2017, 07:16:33 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 10, 2017, 05:27:56 PM
I'm not confident about Tipp at all. Sligo gave them fits last year, and it's not like home advantage is a massive advantage here. If Tipp win this, and get to 4 points after 2 games, I'd be delighted, and it would set them up for a right run. I think it will be very close though.
Tipp should win this . Antrim made things awkward and we struggled first half but changed tactics and got on top . We are going to play against a lot of Teams who will sit back and we have to get used to this . I am confident , players needed a tough game and expect us to be way sharper on Sunday .
Tipp had 3 draws last year when people thought they'd be promoted. And they are famous now. Will they get out of D3 this year ? Does Kearns care about the League ?
Last year kearns was the last intercounty manager appointed, didnt have a lot of time with them. This year we do seem off the pace again, have some key injuries but seem to have a stronger panel to chose from. Kearns has always stated that the cork match in june is what our focus is on, has said we are aiming for promotion but its not what will define our year. I think everyone here realises though that promotion is key for us and we need to be playing at a higher standard than div 3 if we are to continue our progress. Really dont know what to expect from the sligo game, i wouldnt be putting us into any bets
Beating a forewarned Cork will be impossible if Tipp aren't good enough to get out of the dregs of D3. Sounds like Kearns is feeling the bite of second season syndrome..
Jaysus, some going by sligo down in Tipp
Yahoo great result for us, we played exceptional football for 60 minutes and were up by 10 with 10 minutes to go and a man up. Then Tipp took control, got a lucky goal (per the commentator quinlivan touched the ball on the ground) and then got some good scores.
We had a few chances to put it away but had wides or turnovers. We need to be more clinical when it comes to finishing off games. Having said that it's a fantastic victory to go to Thurles and come home with two points. Great game by young O'connor, himself and McIntyre might be the best midfield partnership we have had in a long time.
I'm delighted that we took three points off the top two teams favored for promotion. We have a few injuries, Keelan Cawley with a shoulder injury and young Davey. It seemed a Tipp player was badly injured at the end too, hopefully none of the injuries are too serious.
Best start to a league campaign for us in a long time. Yahoo
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 10, 2017, 01:29:20 PM
Sorry Laoislad.
As they say in The Godfather fillums - nothing personal - it's just business.
Having seen Laois stink out my sitting room last Sat evening I fear for ye going into this one.
If I am wrong I will stand you a chicken burger at yon fancy takeaway in Portlaoise in May after the Leinster El Classico.
I'll have a smokey bacon burger and a curry cheese chips please..... ;D
Poor game in Drogheda. Weather of course was a factor. Louth just about deserved win but ref blew up 1 min early with Longford in possession. He signalled 4 mins added time at end but only played 3 so who knows. We cuda got last gasp equaliser.
Quote from: laoislad on February 12, 2017, 05:15:17 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 10, 2017, 01:29:20 PM
Sorry Laoislad.
As they say in The Godfather fillums - nothing personal - it's just business.
Having seen Laois stink out my sitting room last Sat evening I fear for ye going into this one.
If I am wrong I will stand you a chicken burger at yon fancy takeaway in Portlaoise in May after the Leinster El Classico.
I'll have a smokey bacon burger and a curry cheese chips please..... ;D
Happy to oblige.
Useless. Armagh v Antrim in March could be to avoid relegation.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 12, 2017, 05:17:20 PM
Poor game in Drogheda. Weather of course was a factor. Louth just about deserved win but ref blew up 1 min early with Longford in possession. He signalled 4 mins added time at end but only played 3 so who knows. We cuda got last gasp equaliser.
If they've any decency they'll offer you a replay.
Armagh are brutal. The short kickout from a poor keeper cost them dear.
Quote from: Orior on February 12, 2017, 05:27:56 PM
Useless. Armagh v Antrim in March could be to avoid relegation.
Officially our bitches now....
That Armagh defeat had to be seen to be believed, I've never seen a goalie directly responsible for such a turnaround. 1-2 he gave away in last 10mins with Armagh cruising. I feel sorry for him now as that'll be hard to come back from.
"If they've any decency they'll offer you a replay."
Brilliant Jinxy, just brilliant !
Quote from: laoislad on February 12, 2017, 05:41:22 PM
Quote from: Orior on February 12, 2017, 05:27:56 PM
Useless. Armagh v Antrim in March could be to avoid relegation.
Officially our bitches now....
Are ye sure ye used the right number of subs this time ?
Twould be a shame if ye had to play them again
Any comment from McGeeney afterwards?
Very disappointing comment about the keeper. A young lad trying to break onto the team and making a couple of mistakes; lacking in confidence and trying to do his best standing in nets on a freezing cold day. It is comments like this that can cause young lads to contemplate their self worth and to dwell on the negative. This was not Ronaldo, or Suarez, but a volunteer, amateur who was doing his best. SO what if he made a mistake. No one died. Armagh lost a stupid NFL match in Division 3. Try to leave the Brolly stuff to Brolly.
For the second week in a row Armagh have thrown away victory. Cruising it looked like Laois had no way back but Armagh managed to find a way to give it away. Overall rookie mistakes gifted Laois both goals and a number of points.
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Quote from: laoislad on February 08, 2017, 05:51:06 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 08, 2017, 04:40:14 PM
ahh sure Armagh are missing just as many but you still have to get on with it...Laois by 6 ;)
A February Division 3 game against a reserve Laois team..Bet you'll have an open top bus parade if ye beat us though ;D
Getting your excuses in early, I see.
I guess it's not me who needs the excuses.....
Quote from: sligoman2 on February 12, 2017, 04:09:49 PM
Yahoo great result for us, we played exceptional football for 60 minutes and were up by 10 with 10 minutes to go and a man up. Then Tipp took control, got a lucky goal (per the commentator quinlivan touched the ball on the ground) and then got some good scores.
We had a few chances to put it away but had wides or turnovers. We need to be more clinical when it comes to finishing off games. Having said that it's a fantastic victory to go to Thurles and come home with two points. Great game by young O'connor, himself and McIntyre might be the best midfield partnership we have had in a long time.
I'm delighted that we took three points off the top two teams favored for promotion. We have a few injuries, Keelan Cawley with a shoulder injury and young Davey. It seemed a Tipp player was badly injured at the end too, hopefully none of the injuries are too serious.
Best start to a league campaign for us in a long time. Yahoo
Quinlivan gathered the ball and then slipped before getting up and finishing, didn't think he fouled the ball.
Been saying the whole time how far off it we are and today proved it. Last week antrim only had one forward this week sligo had plenty who could take scores. Very nice brand of football from ye. Absolutely no complaints with the result, we could have won it but sligo were value for a big win and would've been robbery if we got anything out of it. The little break will hopefully bring us on, resultso went well today that everyone is still in or around the same points still at this point. Louth are the only team on full points but I'd imagine there is a lot more scope for improvement in other teams and I'll be surprised if louth can keep it up. Our next game away to laois will decide which one of us will be going for promotion and who'll be fighting relegation. Antrim even at this stage look to be gone. Congrats to sligo today
Quote from: bennydorano on February 12, 2017, 05:46:19 PM
That Armagh defeat had to be seen to be believed, I've never seen a goalie directly responsible for such a turnaround. 1-2 he gave away in last 10mins with Armagh cruising. I feel sorry for him now as that'll be hard to come back from.
What is it with Armagh and keepers. As brutal as he was it must me management policy to persist with the short kickout no matter how many of the opposition are close by!!
Great win but seriously 10pts up with 15 mins to play and a man extra and we scrap over the line. I'm sorry but we have to learn to close out games and stop collapsing. This win felt tainted for me with that end as it happens all too often. Our defence is still porous. Our forward line is fantastic though and with hughes to come back in we should take Antrim next day. That'll be the test of us mentally.
Quote from: Seany on February 12, 2017, 05:50:15 PM
Very disappointing comment about the keeper. A young lad trying to break onto the team and making a couple of mistakes; lacking in confidence and trying to do his best standing in nets on a freezing cold day. It is comments like this that can cause young lads to contemplate their self worth and to dwell on the negative. This was not Ronaldo, or Suarez, but a volunteer, amateur who was doing his best. SO what if he made a mistake. No one died. Armagh lost a stupid NFL match in Division 3. Try to leave the Brolly stuff to Brolly.
The keeper cost Armagh the match ffs can you not even call a football game now without taking into accounts the players feelings.
Blame the clown on the sideline and his defensive mentality not the goalkeeper.That was among the worst performances I've seen from Armagh in over 40 years.I lost count of the number of times players in good scoring positions opted to pass and not shoot,revealing a disturbing lack of confidence and the concession of needless frees showed the defence has little confidence either.
If Paddy O'Rourke or the two Brians were producing this crap their heads would now be rolling.
As it stands the worst ever Down and Armagh teams will meet in Newry this summer each managed by a clown.😡
Quote from: T Fearon on February 12, 2017, 06:13:15 PM
Blame the clown on the sideline and his defensive mentality not the goalkeeper.That was among the worst performances I've seen from Armagh in over 40 years.I lost count of the number of times players in good scoring positions opted to pass and not shoot,revealing a disturbing lack of confidence and the concession of needless frees showed the defence has little confidence either.
If Paddy O'Rourke or the two Brians were producing this crap their heads would now be rolling.
As it stands the worst ever Down and Armagh teams will meet in Newry this summer each managed by a clown.😡
At least you're leaving Brendan Rodgers alone ;)
I don't think you can accuse Armagh of being overly defensive so far this year, there's definitely a more attacking minded approach. We're shit defensively but that's a different matter.
Apart from the obvious GK mistakes today, we'd a poor MF & you could drive a bus through the middle of our defence.
On a bitter cold day Armagh for the 2nd week in a row beat themselves and any Laois men there would agree that Armagh threw it away but credit where it's due Laois kept at it and you never look a gift horse in the mouth, Laois took advantage of Armagh giving them what they wanted in the last 5 mins. The weird thing is sitting there watching the game i was actually expecting a nervy finish, if there is a hard way of doing something Armagh will find it.
I do believe Armagh have the best footballers available to them on their panel so that part of the management has worked but to constantly cave in when the heat is on for the last 5-10 mins of a game is unacceptable. Armagh keeper did rightly until the penalty incident (or his kick to a Laois player that led to the penalty) and i think that wrecked his confidence as he done it again shortly after for Laois to equalise or take the lead just can't remember which one but if i'm being honest Armagh were pretty poor in front of goal all afternoon and only improved when Jamie Clarke was introduced.
Armagh has at least two 1 on 1's with Laois keeper and either messed it up or didn't pass to the man in a better position (J Clarke was screaming for one and didn't get it). That Laois keeper could shift...several times he bombed up the pitch with a solo and one of the times he actually carried to Armagh's 45m line from his own goal line before anyone from Armagh decided to close him down.
Thought Armagh game was extremely poor
We were ponderous and defensively naive
Won't abuse the keeper but 3 points out of 4 are dropped due to goal keeping errors
Game though was lost on the bench
Tactics or lack of them.
Really feel that we have wasted the last 3 years winning 2 out of our last 12 competitive league or championship games.
Simply awful
Quote from: naka on February 12, 2017, 06:48:49 PM
Thought Armagh game was extremely poor
We were ponderous and defensively naive
Won't abuse the keeper but 3 points out of 4 are dropped due to goal keeping errors
Game though was lost on the bench
Tactics or lack of them.
Really feel that we have wasted the last 3 years winning 2 out of our last 12 competitive league or championship games.
Simply awful
I would go as far to say that the last 10 years have been wasted. No follow up to the AI squad from the U21s and minors of any great note. On field mismanagement, off field incompetence. Thankfully I've the fall back of a club that knows what they're doing and where they're going...ye have to wonder what it might be if the right people where involved....
Quote from: naka on February 12, 2017, 06:48:49 PM
Thought Armagh game was extremely poor
We were ponderous and defensively naive
Won't abuse the keeper but 3 points out of 4 are dropped due to goal keeping errors
Game though was lost on the bench
Tactics or lack of them.
Really feel that we have wasted the last 3 years winning 2 out of our last 12 competitive league or championship games.
Simply awful
Bit of perspective here i dont see anyone abusing the keeper merely pointing factually he cost Armagh this match.
Quote from: T Fearon on February 12, 2017, 06:13:15 PM
Blame the clown on the sideline and his defensive mentality not the goalkeeper.That was among the worst performances I've seen from Armagh in over 40 years.I lost count of the number of times players in good scoring positions opted to pass and not shoot,revealing a disturbing lack of confidence and the concession of needless frees showed the defence has little confidence either.
If Paddy O'Rourke or the two Brians were producing this crap their heads would now be rolling.
As it stands the worst ever Down and Armagh teams will meet in Newry this summer each managed by a clown.😡
Bad weekend for Armagh and Spurs eh Tony...
Quote from: T Fearon on February 12, 2017, 06:13:15 PM
Blame the clown on the sideline and his defensive mentality not the goalkeeper.That was among the worst performances I've seen from Armagh in over 40 years.I lost count of the number of times players in good scoring positions opted to pass and not shoot,revealing a disturbing lack of confidence and the concession of needless frees showed the defence has little confidence either.
If Paddy O'Rourke or the two Brians were producing this crap their heads would now be rolling.
As it stands the worst ever Down and Armagh teams will meet in Newry this summer each managed by a clown.😡
Blame must clearly be laid at the door of the two Brians for giving us high expectations. We're back where we deserve.
Tipp are still favorites with PP to win out the Division which is nuts after watching them today . Sligo were up for it fair play to them . Tipp are missing players but that`s no excuse , have a way better panel this year and should have more in them than what went on for the first 60 minutes today !
Good win for Sligo again today, they really do play a nice brand of football and along with Clare were the most impressive team I seen in division 3 last year. It would be good to see them go up.
Laois pulled out a big win which was badly needed, they probably won't have to worry about relegation now and a win in their next game should see them right in the promotion hunt with good players to comeback into their team.
Armagh are stuck in a rut.
Armagh need a rethink. Either Geezer rethinks how we set up or the county needs to rethink who manages the team.
Mcgeeney is guilty of basic basic errors
Delighted with that very unexpected win and coupled with last week it has been a really good start to the season. We do have good forwards who can score which I suppose gives us a chance most days.....think we probably convert a pretty high % of possession into scores. We have weaknesses though which have been there for a long time, most mentioned by Sligonian earlier. I don't think we'd be able to compete in Div2 to be truthful. Armagh and Tipp clearly have problems. And Sligonian is right about the Antrim game - mentally this will be a big challenge for us but a win is what we need.
Sligoman2 - you can't take the word of the OceanFM commentators at all. I know it's all you have to go on but tread carefully with what they're saying. On a couple of occasions I listened to them as I watched the game myself and it was ridiculous at times.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 12, 2017, 05:46:48 PM
"If they've any decency they'll offer you a replay."
Brilliant Jinxy, just brilliant !
I love it. ;D
It is great not to be the same division as Laois and Louth.
Lost a bucketload on Tipp/Armagh double - what the hell is going on with them?
The first goal for Laois was the fault of the management, the way the team was set up in the first half gave Laois an overlap, could have been two shortly after. I am disappointed with the performance of the management, no discernible structure on the park, they weren't beaten by the better team but by them selves.
For a supposedly defensive set up, Armagh were left wide open in the 1st half. Countless time Laois were left to steam through the middle and it was only a matter of time before they scored the goal. I was amazed that Armagh managed to come in level at the break.
Tightened up defensively in the 2nd half and for ten mins Clarke and Soup as a 2 man FF line was causing big problems (Carke in particular was great). But you cant only play well for about 10 mins and expect to win a match.
I thought for the majority of the game Armagh were strong in the tackle and did well to turn over a decent bit of ball.
The discipline of Forker is a serious issue too. But instead we make him captain.
Enough has already been said about our keeper....
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 12, 2017, 10:19:07 PM
Delighted with that very unexpected win and coupled with last week it has been a really good start to the season. We do have good forwards who can score which I suppose gives us a chance most days.....think we probably convert a pretty high % of possession into scores. We have weaknesses though which have been there for a long time, most mentioned by Sligonian earlier. I don't think we'd be able to compete in Div2 to be truthful. Armagh and Tipp clearly have problems. And Sligonian is right about the Antrim game - mentally this will be a big challenge for us but a win is what we need.
Sligoman2 - you can't take the word of the OceanFM commentators at all. I know it's all you have to go on but tread carefully with what they're saying. On a couple of occasions I listened to them as I watched the game myself and it was ridiculous at times.
Yeah I know that Seanie but what they lack inaccuracy they make up for in enjoyment.. They are Sligo to the core which is not a bad thing.
Hard to believe ourselves and Louth are the top teams at this stage..
Quote from: lurganblue on February 13, 2017, 12:07:08 PM
For a supposedly defensive set up, Armagh were left wide open in the 1st half. Countless time Laois were left to steam through the middle and it was only a matter of time before they scored the goal. I was amazed that Armagh managed to come in level at the break.
Tightened up defensively in the 2nd half and for ten mins Clarke and Soup as a 2 man FF line was causing big problems (Carke in particular was great). But you cant only play well for about 10 mins and expect to win a match.
I thought for the majority of the game Armagh were strong in the tackle and did well to turn over a decent bit of ball.
The discipline of Forker is a serious issue too. But instead we make him captain.
Have to agree with you on Forker, discipline comes from the line as well, it is obviously acceptable to have him continuously carded.
Enough has already been said about our keeper....
I saw somewhere that the ref told the linesman there was 3 mins added time and not the 4 that the linesman showed.
(BTW the sign was put up on the 36th min)
So a bit of a communications screw up but there ya go. We'll take our baytin.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 13, 2017, 01:02:34 PM
I saw somewhere that the ref told the linesman there was 3 mins added time and not the 4 that the linesman showed.
(BTW the sign was put up on the 36th min)
So a bit of a communications screw up but there ya go. We'll take our baytin.
Just another reason why a clock should be used for county matches. I don't understand why players are kept in the dark (somewhat) around how much time is remaining..
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Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 13, 2017, 01:02:34 PM
I saw somewhere that the ref told the linesman there was 3 mins added time and not the 4 that the linesman showed.
(BTW the sign was put up on the 36th min)
So a bit of a communications screw up but there ya go. We'll take our baytin.
Just another reason why a clock should be used for county matches. I don't understand why players are kept in the dark (somewhat) around how much time is remaining..
There's a clock in he athletic grounds. Though it does stop at 35 and doesn't show time added on
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Quote from: naka on February 12, 2017, 06:48:49 PM
Thought Armagh game was extremely poor
We were ponderous and defensively naive
Won't abuse the keeper but 3 points out of 4 are dropped due to goal keeping errors
Game though was lost on the bench
Tactics or lack of them.
Really feel that we have wasted the last 3 years winning 2 out of our last 12 competitive league or championship games.
Simply awful
Bit of perspective here i dont see anyone abusing the keeper merely pointing factually he cost Armagh this match.
Have you been on the county forum mate
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Quote from: No wides on February 12, 2017, 07:26:03 PM
Quote from: naka on February 12, 2017, 06:48:49 PM
Thought Armagh game was extremely poor
We were ponderous and defensively naive
Won't abuse the keeper but 3 points out of 4 are dropped due to goal keeping errors
Game though was lost on the bench
Tactics or lack of them.
Really feel that we have wasted the last 3 years winning 2 out of our last 12 competitive league or championship games.
Simply awful
Bit of perspective here i dont see anyone abusing the keeper merely pointing factually he cost Armagh this match.
Have you been on the county forum mate
No I was posting and reading this thread alone kid, sure why not bring up stuff you heard down the pub. He was accusing folk of abusing the keeper on
this thread.
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Quote from: naka on February 12, 2017, 06:48:49 PM
Thought Armagh game was extremely poor
We were ponderous and defensively naive
Won't abuse the keeper but 3 points out of 4 are dropped due to goal keeping errors
Game though was lost on the bench
Tactics or lack of them.
Really feel that we have wasted the last 3 years winning 2 out of our last 12 competitive league or championship games.
Simply awful
Bit of perspective here i dont see anyone abusing the keeper merely pointing factually he cost Armagh this match.
Have you been on the county forum mate
No I was posting and reading this thread alone kid, sure why not bring up stuff you heard down the pub. He was accusing folk of abusing the keeper on this thread.
I wasn`t accusing anyone of abusing the keeper was just saying it can be easy to pick on him after the debacle that was the last 5 minutes
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Quote from: naka on February 12, 2017, 06:48:49 PM
Thought Armagh game was extremely poor
We were ponderous and defensively naive
Won't abuse the keeper but 3 points out of 4 are dropped due to goal keeping errors
Game though was lost on the bench
Tactics or lack of them.
Really feel that we have wasted the last 3 years winning 2 out of our last 12 competitive league or championship games.
Simply awful
Bit of perspective here i dont see anyone abusing the keeper merely pointing factually he cost Armagh this match.
Have you been on the county forum mate
There has been a lot of criticism of the keeper on the armagh forum and some of that has split over into abuse. Poster have been warned about their language and the abuse. But the moderators have in turn gone over the top.
In the last 24 hours I have had my posts amended, deleted and now I have been banned form the site (banned completely from viewing the site nevermind actually posting). I did not post any abuse nor use any abusive language (in fact I never criticised the goal keeper or any other player). Nor did I use any inappropriate language.
I merely asked questions about the direction we are going and that was enough to have me permanently banned (no previous bad record either). I asked where we are on our 5 year plan. And the reason being quoted by the moderator for me being banned is that I asked these questions.
The totalitarian intolerance of dissent or questions and all this talk of 5 year plans is something George Orwell would struggle to make up.
Armagh fans lose the run of themselves too much.
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Armagh fans lose the run of themselves too much.
You'd think they should be used to Laois beating them at this stage.
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Quote from: general_lee on February 14, 2017, 11:32:35 AM
Armagh fans lose the run of themselves too much.
You'd think they should be used to Laois beating them at this stage.
How you scored more than our 16 points I'll never know, considering your maths ability.
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Quote from: naka on February 12, 2017, 06:48:49 PM
Thought Armagh game was extremely poor
We were ponderous and defensively naive
Won't abuse the keeper but 3 points out of 4 are dropped due to goal keeping errors
Game though was lost on the bench
Tactics or lack of them.
Really feel that we have wasted the last 3 years winning 2 out of our last 12 competitive league or championship games.
Simply awful
Bit of perspective here i dont see anyone abusing the keeper merely pointing factually he cost Armagh this match.
Have you been on the county forum mate
No I was posting and reading this thread alone kid, sure why not bring up stuff you heard down the pub. He was accusing folk of abusing the keeper on this thread.
Kid? Down the pub? What are you on about?
Fair enough about this thread but have a look at the thread on the county forum. Plenty of people abusing the keeper there
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Quote from: naka on February 12, 2017, 06:48:49 PM
Thought Armagh game was extremely poor
We were ponderous and defensively naive
Won't abuse the keeper but 3 points out of 4 are dropped due to goal keeping errors
Game though was lost on the bench
Tactics or lack of them.
Really feel that we have wasted the last 3 years winning 2 out of our last 12 competitive league or championship games.
Simply awful
Bit of perspective here i dont see anyone abusing the keeper merely pointing factually he cost Armagh this match.
Have you been on the county forum mate
No I was posting and reading this thread alone kid, sure why not bring up stuff you heard down the pub. He was accusing folk of abusing the keeper on this thread.
Kid? Down the pub? What are you on about?
Fair enough about this thread but have a look at the thread on the county forum. Plenty of people abusing the keeper there
No one on here was, the tone of the post implied they were, i disagreed - what exactly is your issue?
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Quote from: naka on February 12, 2017, 06:48:49 PM
Thought Armagh game was extremely poor
We were ponderous and defensively naive
Won't abuse the keeper but 3 points out of 4 are dropped due to goal keeping errors
Game though was lost on the bench
Tactics or lack of them.
Really feel that we have wasted the last 3 years winning 2 out of our last 12 competitive league or championship games.
Simply awful
Bit of perspective here i dont see anyone abusing the keeper merely pointing factually he cost Armagh this match.
Have you been on the county forum mate
No I was posting and reading this thread alone kid, sure why not bring up stuff you heard down the pub. He was accusing folk of abusing the keeper on this thread.
Kid? Down the pub? What are you on about?
Fair enough about this thread but have a look at the thread on the county forum. Plenty of people abusing the keeper there
No one on here was, the tone of the post implied they were, i disagreed - what exactly is your issue?
you being a prat, as usual. I thought that was pretty obvious. Kid
Whatsapp group getting some traffic these days.
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Thought Armagh game was extremely poor
We were ponderous and defensively naive
Won't abuse the keeper but 3 points out of 4 are dropped due to goal keeping errors
Game though was lost on the bench
Tactics or lack of them.
Really feel that we have wasted the last 3 years winning 2 out of our last 12 competitive league or championship games.
Simply awful
Bit of perspective here i dont see anyone abusing the keeper merely pointing factually he cost Armagh this match.
Have you been on the county forum mate
There has been a lot of criticism of the keeper on the armagh forum and some of that has split over into abuse. Poster have been warned about their language and the abuse. But the moderators have in turn gone over the top.
In the last 24 hours I have had my posts amended, deleted and now I have been banned form the site (banned completely from viewing the site nevermind actually posting). I did not post any abuse nor use any abusive language (in fact I never criticised the goal keeper or any other player). Nor did I use any inappropriate language.
I merely asked questions about the direction we are going and that was enough to have me permanently banned (no previous bad record either). I asked where we are on our 5 year plan. And the reason being quoted by the moderator for me being banned is that I asked these questions.
The totalitarian intolerance of dissent or questions and all this talk of 5 year plans is something George Orwell would struggle to make up.
Sounds like have finally flipped. It's been heading that way for a while
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Quote from: naka on February 12, 2017, 06:48:49 PM
Thought Armagh game was extremely poor
We were ponderous and defensively naive
Won't abuse the keeper but 3 points out of 4 are dropped due to goal keeping errors
Game though was lost on the bench
Tactics or lack of them.
Really feel that we have wasted the last 3 years winning 2 out of our last 12 competitive league or championship games.
Simply awful
Bit of perspective here i dont see anyone abusing the keeper merely pointing factually he cost Armagh this match.
Have you been on the county forum mate
No I was posting and reading this thread alone kid, sure why not bring up stuff you heard down the pub. He was accusing folk of abusing the keeper on this thread.
Kid? Down the pub? What are you on about?
Fair enough about this thread but have a look at the thread on the county forum. Plenty of people abusing the keeper there
No one on here was, the tone of the post implied they were, i disagreed - what exactly is your issue?
you being a prat, as usual. I thought that was pretty obvious. Kid
Why because I can't mind read that the original poster was referencing an external site. Take a reddner benny.
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Quote from: naka on February 12, 2017, 06:48:49 PM
Thought Armagh game was extremely poor
We were ponderous and defensively naive
Won't abuse the keeper but 3 points out of 4 are dropped due to goal keeping errors
Game though was lost on the bench
Tactics or lack of them.
Really feel that we have wasted the last 3 years winning 2 out of our last 12 competitive league or championship games.
Simply awful
Bit of perspective here i dont see anyone abusing the keeper merely pointing factually he cost Armagh this match.
Have you been on the county forum mate
No I was posting and reading this thread alone kid, sure why not bring up stuff you heard down the pub. He was accusing folk of abusing the keeper on this thread.
Kid? Down the pub? What are you on about?
Fair enough about this thread but have a look at the thread on the county forum. Plenty of people abusing the keeper there
No one on here was, the tone of the post implied they were, i disagreed - what exactly is your issue?
you being a prat, as usual. I thought that was pretty obvious. Kid
Why because I can't mind read that the original poster was referencing an external site. Take a reddner benny.
You can't mind read? What? You do make me laugh sunshine, I will give ye that
Armagh just can't beat Laois....That was a Laois team missing 9 yes Nine players who would probably start if not injured or away at the moment.
Laois Abu!!!!!!!!1
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Quote from: naka on February 12, 2017, 06:48:49 PM
Thought Armagh game was extremely poor
We were ponderous and defensively naive
Won't abuse the keeper but 3 points out of 4 are dropped due to goal keeping errors
Game though was lost on the bench
Tactics or lack of them.
Really feel that we have wasted the last 3 years winning 2 out of our last 12 competitive league or championship games.
Simply awful
Bit of perspective here i dont see anyone abusing the keeper merely pointing factually he cost Armagh this match.
Have you been on the county forum mate
No I was posting and reading this thread alone kid, sure why not bring up stuff you heard down the pub. He was accusing folk of abusing the keeper on this thread.
Kid? Down the pub? What are you on about?
Fair enough about this thread but have a look at the thread on the county forum. Plenty of people abusing the keeper there
No one on here was, the tone of the post implied they were, i disagreed - what exactly is your issue?
you being a prat, as usual. I thought that was pretty obvious. Kid
Why because I can't mind read that the original poster was referencing an external site. Take a reddner benny.
You can't mind read? What? You do make me laugh sunshine, I will give ye that
Show me the post on this thread - or keep taking the reddner benny.
FFS lads can you take this elsewhere.
Leave the thread to discussing the games in Div 3 and less of this abuse that's way above slagging or I'll get Ziggy in!
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Quote from: naka on February 12, 2017, 06:48:49 PM
Thought Armagh game was extremely poor
We were ponderous and defensively naive
Won't abuse the keeper but 3 points out of 4 are dropped due to goal keeping errors
Game though was lost on the bench
Tactics or lack of them.
Really feel that we have wasted the last 3 years winning 2 out of our last 12 competitive league or championship games.
Simply awful
Bit of perspective here i dont see anyone abusing the keeper merely pointing factually he cost Armagh this match.
Have you been on the county forum mate
No I was posting and reading this thread alone kid, sure why not bring up stuff you heard down the pub. He was accusing folk of abusing the keeper on this thread.
Kid? Down the pub? What are you on about?
Fair enough about this thread but have a look at the thread on the county forum. Plenty of people abusing the keeper there
No one on here was, the tone of the post implied they were, i disagreed - what exactly is your issue?
you being a prat, as usual. I thought that was pretty obvious. Kid
Why because I can't mind read that the original poster was referencing an external site. Take a reddner benny.
You can't mind read? What? You do make me laugh sunshine, I will give ye that
Show me the post on this thread - or keep taking the reddner benny.
What on earth does 'you can't mind read' mean kiddo? For what it's worth I never said anyone referenced an external site. I did though. Now, stop behaving like a child 'benny'
On a serious note though no wides. Did you see the county forum? Some of the abuse there was bang out of order
Quote from: tonto1888 on February 15, 2017, 05:14:48 PM
On a serious note though no wides. Did you see the county forum? Some of the abuse there was bang out of order
Undoubtedly true with quite a few posters shown the door. When you think about it though the Laois manager admitted that they targeted the Armagh kickouts and bar one critical mistake the keeper had a fairly good game. The mistake did probably cost the game though.
Quote from: tonto1888 on February 15, 2017, 05:14:48 PM
On a serious note though no wides. Did you see the county forum? Some of the abuse there was bang out of order
I didnt to be fair. Personal abuse is uncalled for and probably by folk who never kicked a ball in their lives.
I do agree he was having a decent game. Wasn't the only one to give away scores but ultimately in his position your mistakes are noticed a lot more. Don't know who was banned from the county forum but some people definitely deserved it
Quote from: Throw ball on February 15, 2017, 06:47:10 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on February 15, 2017, 05:14:48 PM
On a serious note though no wides. Did you see the county forum? Some of the abuse there was bang out of order
Undoubtedly true with quite a few posters shown the door. When you think about it though the Laois manager admitted that they targeted the Armagh kickouts and bar one critical mistake the keeper had a fairly good game. The mistake did probably cost the game though.
Not everyone who was shown the door was dealing in abuse
Quote from: mcklatchee on February 15, 2017, 07:30:00 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on February 15, 2017, 06:47:10 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on February 15, 2017, 05:14:48 PM
On a serious note though no wides. Did you see the county forum? Some of the abuse there was bang out of order
Undoubtedly true with quite a few posters shown the door. When you think about it though the Laois manager admitted that they targeted the Armagh kickouts and bar one critical mistake the keeper had a fairly good game. The mistake did probably cost the game though.
Not everyone who was shown the door was dealing in abuse
Some were bucked out the window, while it was still closed.
Quote from: Orior on February 15, 2017, 08:16:20 PM
Quote from: mcklatchee on February 15, 2017, 07:30:00 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on February 15, 2017, 06:47:10 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on February 15, 2017, 05:14:48 PM
On a serious note though no wides. Did you see the county forum? Some of the abuse there was bang out of order
Undoubtedly true with quite a few posters shown the door. When you think about it though the Laois manager admitted that they targeted the Armagh kickouts and bar one critical mistake the keeper had a fairly good game. The mistake did probably cost the game though.
Not everyone who was shown the door was dealing in abuse
Some were bucked out the window, while it was still closed.
Who all was banned? Were they all guilty of personal abuse? No sympathy for them if they were.
What riles me is that Fox just decided I was asking a question that somebody didn't want asked and I'm turfed out for that. Still its not North Korea, yet
There's been loads of bans on the Armagh forum?
Maybe someone will set up a breakaway Armagh forum? GAA forum of Armagh?
Been banned from June 8)
Quote from: Throw ball on February 15, 2017, 06:47:10 PM
When you think about it though the Laois manager admitted that they targeted the Armagh kickouts and bar one critical mistake the keeper had a fairly good game. The mistake did probably cost the game though.
Felt sorry for young McNiece. He is a talented keeper and had a decent enough game. The one major mistake cost us a goal from a penalty, with a man sent off in the process. He then panicked a bit when Laois drew level and rushed a further short kickout in an attempt to get us going - the Laois defender anticipated, intercepted and slotted the winning point.
As is always the case, the keeper's error is highlighted and there has been little if any mention of the (at least) four goal opportunities we absolutely butchered. I thought for the most part of that game we were very poor and should still have won by about eight points, but there ye go. :-\
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on February 16, 2017, 12:56:19 AM
Quote from: Throw ball on February 15, 2017, 06:47:10 PM
When you think about it though the Laois manager admitted that they targeted the Armagh kickouts and bar one critical mistake the keeper had a fairly good game. The mistake did probably cost the game though.
Felt sorry for young McNiece. He is a talented keeper and had a decent enough game. The one major mistake cost us a goal from a penalty, with a man sent off in the process. He then panicked a bit when Laois drew level and rushed a further short kickout in an attempt to get us going - the Laois defender anticipated, intercepted and slotted the winning point.
As is always the case, the keeper's error is highlighted and there has been little if any mention of the (at least) four goal opportunities we absolutely butchered. I thought for the most part of that game we were very poor and should still have won by about eight points, but there ye go. :-\
100% agree...I know the Keeper made a few mistakes at the end which killed us but as you stated the 3-4 one on one with the Laois keeper for me was the defining moments...if we'd have taken half of them it wouldn't have mattered what Armagh keeper done. Armagh just can't seem to kill teams off when they're on top and it's always a nervy last 10 mins with them no matter who they're playing
Where is this Armagh Forum? On the keeper he made mistakes, but surely he is following the instructions on kick out strategy? No need for abuse though.
On a side note, i though armagh should have had their own penalty when soup was wiped out after clarke louped one across to him. but sure no matter.
It is amazing the evolution of the goalkeeping position over the last few years. So much importance to a team now
I was right behind the nets for that, Campbell half pulled out of going for the ball fullblooded and got himself cleaned in the process, never a penalty.
Quote from: BennyCake on February 15, 2017, 09:49:30 PM
There's been loads of bans on the Armagh forum?
Maybe someone will set up a breakaway Armagh forum? GAA forum of Armagh?
Or maybe they should stop banning people on a whim.
It's on the official county website. It's not some private plaything
Any of the regular contributors to the Armagh forum know why people are being banned? Are they happy that they are being banned?
How does this rest with the county? Its the official site. Should it not be a bit more accountable?
Quote from: bennydorano on February 16, 2017, 04:37:55 PM
I was right behind the nets for that, Campbell half pulled out of going for the ball fullblooded and got himself cleaned in the process, never a penalty.
Happy enough with that. I would have been a lot further away than yourself
Quote from: smelmoth on February 16, 2017, 10:41:24 PM
Any of the regular contributors to the Armagh forum know why people are being banned? Are they happy that they are being banned?
How does this rest with the county? Its the official site. Should it not be a bit more accountable?
Joke of a forum. Everyone is treated like children ffs. I only use it during the summer for club results coming in.
Quote from: bennydorano on February 16, 2017, 04:37:55 PM
I was right behind the nets for that, Campbell half pulled out of going for the ball fullblooded and got himself cleaned in the process, never a penalty.
I was at that end of the Ground in the main stand and couldn't disagree with that...As for the Armagh website, it is a bit OTT but at the same time there are a lot of young very immature lads on it who would not take long to get out of hand and give out personal abuse to players. A tight ship needs run there and i think that's why the moderator is a bit OTT, if i'm right in thinking i think the County Board asked for the site to be closed down a few years ago due to personal abuse by posters...
I was looking across from the stand when Campbell went down,
he half pulled out as benny says, and the keeper hardly touched him it was never a penalty
Quote from: illdecide on February 17, 2017, 09:54:17 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on February 16, 2017, 04:37:55 PM
I was right behind the nets for that, Campbell half pulled out of going for the ball fullblooded and got himself cleaned in the process, never a penalty.
I was at that end of the Ground in the main stand and couldn't disagree with that...As for the Armagh website, it is a bit OTT but at the same time there are a lot of young very immature lads on it who would not take long to get out of hand and give out personal abuse to players. A tight ship needs run there and i think that's why the moderator is a bit OTT, if i'm right in thinking i think the County Board asked for the site to be closed down a few years ago due to personal abuse by posters...
There isn't any controversy about posters being banned for abuse when the abuse has crossed a line but its clear that some have been banned for other reasons
Quote from: lurganblue on February 17, 2017, 09:16:21 AM
Quote from: smelmoth on February 16, 2017, 10:41:24 PM
Any of the regular contributors to the Armagh forum know why people are being banned? Are they happy that they are being banned?
How does this rest with the county? Its the official site. Should it not be a bit more accountable?
Joke of a forum. Everyone is treated like children ffs. I only use it during the summer for club results coming in.
It's potentially a very good forum. Excellent functionality, good updates and some excellent posters. But there is a sensitivity to criticism or even questioning that is not healthy and therefore not healthy for the gaa in Armagh. If a county board official was asked should posters be banned for asking questions about the direction current management was taking us be banned I doubt they would say yes and yet that is what is happening on part of our official county website
Quote from: smelmoth on February 16, 2017, 10:41:24 PM
Any of the regular contributors to the Armagh forum know why people are being banned? Are they happy that they are being banned?
How does this rest with the county? Its the official site. Should it not be a bit more accountable?
Too many are sitting idly by and letting this shite prevail. Some post here but are not raising their voices on the county website. Why???????
Quote from: illdecide on February 17, 2017, 09:54:17 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on February 16, 2017, 04:37:55 PM
I was right behind the nets for that, Campbell half pulled out of going for the ball fullblooded and got himself cleaned in the process, never a penalty.
I was at that end of the Ground in the main stand and couldn't disagree with that...As for the Armagh website, it is a bit OTT but at the same time there are a lot of young very immature lads on it who would not take long to get out of hand and give out personal abuse to players. A tight ship needs run there and i think that's why the moderator is a bit OTT, if i'm right in thinking i think the County Board asked for the site to be closed down a few years ago due to personal abuse by posters...
For me it's not about abuse. I abused nobody. The Armagh posters will know that or can look it up. They are banning people for nefarious reasons
Quote from: illdecide on February 17, 2017, 09:54:17 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on February 16, 2017, 04:37:55 PM
I was right behind the nets for that, Campbell half pulled out of going for the ball fullblooded and got himself cleaned in the process, never a penalty.
I was at that end of the Ground in the main stand and couldn't disagree with that...As for the Armagh website, it is a bit OTT but at the same time there are a lot of young very immature lads on it who would not take long to get out of hand and give out personal abuse to players. A tight ship needs run there and i think that's why the moderator is a bit OTT, if i'm right in thinking i think the County Board asked for the site to be closed down a few years ago due to personal abuse by posters...
I think they're of that opinion at the moment too
Quote from: tonto1888 on February 17, 2017, 10:00:39 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 17, 2017, 09:54:17 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on February 16, 2017, 04:37:55 PM
I was right behind the nets for that, Campbell half pulled out of going for the ball fullblooded and got himself cleaned in the process, never a penalty.
I was at that end of the Ground in the main stand and couldn't disagree with that...As for the Armagh website, it is a bit OTT but at the same time there are a lot of young very immature lads on it who would not take long to get out of hand and give out personal abuse to players. A tight ship needs run there and i think that's why the moderator is a bit OTT, if i'm right in thinking i think the County Board asked for the site to be closed down a few years ago due to personal abuse by posters...
I think they're of that opinion at the moment too
Then delete the abusive posts, warn or ban the abusive posters and leave the rest of us alone.
Anybody want to talk about the big game in Longford. Some team news for an old exile would be helpful.
Big game for us v Antrim. A win and we are definitely in the promotion hunt, a loss and we are back in the middle of the pack. Hopefully we can play like the first 50 minutes against Tipperary, if we do we can win it.
Fingers crossed, we have a good record against Antrim but it's never easy to come out of belfast with 2 points. Haven't heard any team news yet on injuries etc..
Do or die game for Antrim.
Quote from: omochain on February 20, 2017, 10:02:23 PM
Anybody want to talk about the big game in Longford. Some team news for an old exile would be helpful.
A win is an absolute must. Can't help with the team as I've gone back to Manchester tonight myself
Quote from: sligoman2 on February 21, 2017, 09:17:50 PM
Big game for us v Antrim. A win and we are definitely in the promotion hunt, a loss and we are back in the middle of the pack. Hopefully we can play like the first 50 minutes against Tipperary, if we do we can win it.
Fingers crossed, we have a good record against Antrim but it's never easy to come out of belfast with 2 points. Haven't heard any team news yet on injuries etc..
Do or die game for Antrim.
We tried to get too cute against Tipp by withdrawing Murf and Paddy O'Connor (understand the thinking but for the sake of 10-15 minutes it was a daft move). We need to be able to go and win in Antrim. The good things about our guys is we usually manage to keep the scoreboard ticking over even if we're not playing all that well. This gives us a chance against most sides.
Just to remind Armagh lads coming to Longford on Sun there is no seated area - unless you get a Ard Comhairle type ticket for the small VIP section which is usually reserved for the older folks.
The sheltered area is standing only behind the town goals.
The rest of the standing area along the 'near' side of the pitch is exposed to the elements.
So bring lots of wet gear.
Sorry about this - the main seated area stand is deemed unsafe and is being worked on to try and fix the problems.
Looking forward to this and REVENGE for the Div 2 defeat in Armagh a few years ago which annoyed me greatly at the time due to the cynical nature of the Armagh game (but equally whingeing annoys me too).
Quote from: sligoman2 on February 21, 2017, 09:17:50 PM
Big game for us v Antrim. A win and we are definitely in the promotion hunt, a loss and we are back in the middle of the pack. Hopefully we can play like the first 50 minutes against Tipperary, if we do we can win it.
Fingers crossed, we have a good record against Antrim but it's never easy to come out of belfast with 2 points. Haven't heard any team news yet on injuries etc..
Do or die game for Antrim.
Sadly I am not sure you will have too many issues with Antrim :( Hope I'm wrong!
Quote from: omochain on February 20, 2017, 10:02:23 PM
Anybody want to talk about the big game in Longford. Some team news for an old exile would be helpful.
Looks like a similar line out to a fortnight ago. Same keeper and still no Jamie Clarke.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 23, 2017, 02:33:44 PM
The rest of the standing area along the 'near' side of the pitch is exposed to the elements.
So bring lots of wet gear.
Sorry about this - the main seated area stand is deemed unsafe and is being worked on to try and fix the problems.
I still remember a serious wetting in Longford 15 odd years ago. Damp spot.
Quote from: Orior on February 24, 2017, 04:32:24 PM
Quote from: omochain on February 20, 2017, 10:02:23 PM
Anybody want to talk about the big game in Longford. Some team news for an old exile would be helpful.
Looks like a similar line out to a fortnight ago. Same keeper and still no Jamie Clarke.
As always I would be very surprised if the named team starts for us.
And I hope it doesn't. Anto can do a job for us but he should be competing with the half forwards. Would prefer to see Clarke in there. His omission is a nonsense that will hopefully be corrected before throw in
Quote from: Orior on February 24, 2017, 04:32:24 PM
Quote from: omochain on February 20, 2017, 10:02:23 PM
Anybody want to talk about the big game in Longford. Some team news for an old exile would be helpful.
Looks like a similar line out to a fortnight ago.
Hopefully the same result.
Hon Longford..
Not looking good for Laois
Quote from: seafoid on February 25, 2017, 08:23:14 PM
Not looking good for Laois
Pity we can't play Armagh every week.
Good win for Tipp up in Portlaoise but a fairly pedestrian game. Tipp are trying to be a bit harder to score on this year.
Good win while still not playing great, was really worried for us when quinlivan went off. 10 different scorers on the night and our defending and tackling in the 2nd half was as good as I've seen from us for a while.
Quote from: tippabu on February 25, 2017, 11:18:43 PM
Good win while still not playing great, was really worried for us when quinlivan went off. 10 different scorers on the night and our defending and tackling in the 2nd half was as good as I've seen from us for a while.
Quite a defensive set up tippabu. Lot of men retreating as soon as the kick out is lost.
Quote from: tippabu on February 25, 2017, 11:18:43 PM
Good win while still not playing great, was really worried for us when quinlivan went off. 10 different scorers on the night and our defending and tackling in the 2nd half was as good as I've seen from us for a while.
Keane was superb tackling back and Fox and Kiely very good all round . Starting to come together now and Hannigan back as well .
Quote from: Horse Box on February 26, 2017, 12:16:05 AM
Quote from: tippabu on February 25, 2017, 11:18:43 PM
Good win while still not playing great, was really worried for us when quinlivan went off. 10 different scorers on the night and our defending and tackling in the 2nd half was as good as I've seen from us for a while.
Keane was superb tackling back and Fox and Kiely very good all round . Starting to come together now and Hannigan back as well .
Fox was brilliant....went from having a non existing midfield to Jack and casey doing really well and now George getting back. That ape was at the game again and mouthed off again to laois people leaving early almost started a row.....he's a f**king ape and massive embarrassment. Bad weather due this week, we are ment to be on first next week in a double header with the hurlers, I can guarantee we won't be allowed play and cut up the pitch on the hurlers and wouldn't be surprised if they move our game from semple
Granard getting ready to welcome the passing Armagh traffic.
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Quote from: tippabu on February 26, 2017, 03:23:07 AM
Quote from: Horse Box on February 26, 2017, 12:16:05 AM
Quote from: tippabu on February 25, 2017, 11:18:43 PM
Good win while still not playing great, was really worried for us when quinlivan went off. 10 different scorers on the night and our defending and tackling in the 2nd half was as good as I've seen from us for a while.
Keane was superb tackling back and Fox and Kiely very good all round . Starting to come together now and Hannigan back as well .
Fox was brilliant....went from having a non existing midfield to Jack and casey doing really well and now George getting back. That ape was at the game again and mouthed off again to laois people leaving early almost started a row.....he's a f**king ape and massive embarrassment. Bad weather due this week, we are ment to be on first next week in a double header with the hurlers, I can guarantee we won't be allowed play and cut up the pitch on the hurlers and wouldn't be surprised if they move our game from semple
Seen that . Hopefully the Football Board stands up and insists on the game going ahead in Thurles , our days of being second class citizens is over >:( !
Disaster congrats Antrim
2 points scored in the second half
Armagh win by 2. Feck me. We gifted them so much. Must say though some of their supporters would give a panadol a headache.
Had to move twice so I wouldn't get vexed over the abuse towards the ref and the Longford players.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 26, 2017, 03:50:43 PM
Armagh win by 2. Feck me. We gifted them so much. Must say though some of their supporters would give a panadol a headache.
Had to move twice so I wouldn't get vexed over the abuse towards the ref and the Longford players.
I apologise on behalf of my fellow supporters. There's a lot of frustration about.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 26, 2017, 03:50:43 PM
Armagh win by 2. Feck me. We gifted them so much. Must say though some of their supporters would give a panadol a headache.
Had to move twice so I wouldn't get vexed over the abuse towards the ref and the Longford players.
Just think how the various keepers have felt over the last while. Hope you realise we are not all like that! To be fair the referee wasn't great. He must have tried to book everyone on the field and there was hardly a bad tackle. Then he failed to black card Grugan for the most obvious foul of the match.
I thought Armagh looked great for about 15 minutes in the first half. For the rest of the match they were barely average. As for gifting scores - Armagh give you 2 goals in the second half from silly mistakes!
Armagh beyond a joke at this stage I'm afraid.Another huge lead surrendered almost against another third division team
Quote from: T Fearon on February 26, 2017, 07:33:21 PM
Armagh beyond a joke at this stage I'm afraid.Another huge lead surrendered almost against another third division team
In case it escaped your attention we are a division 3 team too
QuoteAs for gifting scores - Armagh give you 2 goals in the second half from silly mistakes!
Yes. This is true.
LOL at Tony complaining about Armagh playing a Division 3 side in Division 3!
Just to clarify on the supporters. It was mainly the women who were the culprits.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 26, 2017, 07:58:07 PM
QuoteAs for gifting scores - Armagh give you 2 goals in the second half from silly mistakes!
Yes. This is true.
LOL at Tony complaining about Armagh playing a Division 3 side in Division 3!
Just to clarify on the supporters. It was mainly the women who were the culprits.
You don't have to tell an Armagh man about the women complaining. They are all Ireland champions at it!
Just hope the wife doesn't read this. :P
Armagh may be in Division 3 currently but it is not their natural habitat.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 26, 2017, 07:58:07 PM
QuoteAs for gifting scores - Armagh give you 2 goals in the second half from silly mistakes!
Yes. This is true.
LOL at Tony complaining about Armagh playing a Division 3 side in Division 3!
Just to clarify on the supporters. It was mainly the women who were the culprits.
Fearon as a human being is without excuse. He has little intelligence, no moral decency and absolutely no integrity but I think you are being unfair him (anyone detecting humour in this has misinterpreted me)
Armagh are making Division 3 teams look better that they are
Quote from: T Fearon on February 26, 2017, 08:16:31 PM
Armagh may be in Division 3 currently but it is not their natural habitat.
It will be, if we don't get promotion.
A win is a win and, if we get our act together we are still in with a shout for promotion, but we have serious issues.
Its fair to judge a keeper on their shot stopping and another keeper today and we still have issues there. The keeper is key to kick outs and we still have a lot to do there but more than half the team have to be involved in that and the management have to take responsibility for coordinating that,
But the defensive strategy needs a full rethink. By that I mean it needs to be abandoned and a new strategy put in place. We are killing the keeper and full back line by letting runners and quick ball get at them too easily. We have taken the ultra negative tactic of turning our back on lost possession and retreating back to the blanket and applied it to the ultra positive tactic of letting half backs bomb forward. It doesn't work. It cannot work. get rid
Grugan a joy to watch.
A ball winner like Murnin can work well with Soupy, Jaime and O'Neill sniffing around. Soupy is wasted when he stands around in the half forward area
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 26, 2017, 07:58:07 PM
QuoteAs for gifting scores - Armagh give you 2 goals in the second half from silly mistakes!
Yes. This is true.
LOL at Tony complaining about Armagh playing a Division 3 side in Division 3!
Just to clarify on the supporters. It was mainly the women who were the culprits.
How could you tell?
To secure promotion Armagh will have to beat both Louth and Tipp,the only other non natural Div 3 teams in this section this season,a tall order indeed,when we are leaking goals,and have a different trial goalkeeper for every game.
Quote from: T Fearon on February 26, 2017, 09:50:04 PM
To secure promotion Armagh will have to beat both Louth and Tipp,the only other non natural Div 3 teams in this section this season,a tall order indeed,when we are leaking goals,and have a different trial goalkeeper for every game.
Tipp are pure D3 if you look at historical results
Quote from: smelmoth on February 26, 2017, 08:53:41 PM
Its fair to judge a keeper on their shot stopping and another keeper today and we still have issues there. The keeper is key to kick outs and we still have a lot to do there but more than half the team have to be involved in that and the management have to take responsibility for coordinating that
Enough players have been tried and enough time wasted. The playing collective don't seem to know what is going on. The great coaches work on the mantra "if they don't know it I haven't taught it".
I hear they are complaining on the Armagh county website about the lack of traffic after a victory. If you ban the posters they are somewhat less likely to post
Quote from: T Fearon on February 26, 2017, 08:16:31 PM
Armagh may be in Division 3 currently but it is not their natural habitat.
Wake up and smell the coffee. Its your second time in div 3 in 3 years. Thats natural habitat territory right there.
Armagh are in Division 3 for the second time in three seasons due to poor management.Our natural habitat is upper Div 2.
To toss away commanding leads in three consecutive fixtures is outrageous and evidence that no lessons are being learned.
Quote from: T Fearon on February 26, 2017, 11:40:28 PM
Armagh are in Division 3 for the second time in three seasons due to poor management.Our natural habitat is upper Div 2.
To toss away commanding leads in three consecutive fixtures is outrageous and evidence that no lessons are being learned.
It's your natural habitat despite the fact you haven't finished a league season there since 2012 when you were relegated from Div 1?
Quote from: sligoman2 on February 26, 2017, 03:33:21 PM
Disaster congrats Antrim
2 points scored in the second half
We carry two lads who are anonymous from play every week for their frees. When they miss the frees we're in big trouble. We're still a long way off being a good team. That said I think conditions yesterday (same for everyone I know) really hamper a light, footballing team like ourselves. Bad defeat but probably makes up for the stolen point against Armagh.
QuoteOur natural habitat is upper Div 2
Oh this is so funny.
We look forward to playing ye again in Armagh next year. Hopefully we'll survive the carnage that may lie ahead.
If Division 3 is such an insult then perhaps, like Sisyphus, you are doomed to stay there for ever.
Following this Armagh team is a frustrating pastime. At times in the first half we didn't look like a Division 3 team as some of the football played was very good with excellent movement off the ball and great use of the kick pass. An inside line of Andrew Murnin and Jamie Clarke is a great asset to have. Jamie's handling in the tackle was poor at times though as he couldn't get away from his man on a heavy pitch.
Having said that we looked more like a Division 4 team at times in our defending in the second half as we mixed the sublime with the ridiculous, it would put years on you looking at it.
We have the makings of an excellent forward line who will rack up serious scores but our defending and goalkeeping is haphazard to say the least.
Shamrock Shore, no county has a monopoly on unruly supporters as we had a few Longford lads beside us who shouted the "c*nt" word fairly liberally throughout the match at the Armagh players and spent most of their time trying to get a rise out of us.
Every county has them....
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 27, 2017, 10:03:31 AM
QuoteOur natural habitat is upper Div 2
Oh this is so funny.
We look forward to playing ye again in Armagh next year. Hopefully we'll survive the carnage that may lie ahead.
If Division 3 is such an insult then perhaps, like Sisyphus, you are doomed to stay there for ever.
I wouldn't be surprised if Geezer actually has the Armagh lads rolling boulders up a hill in training.
Quote from: Jinxy on February 27, 2017, 01:38:42 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 27, 2017, 10:03:31 AM
QuoteOur natural habitat is upper Div 2
Oh this is so funny.
We look forward to playing ye again in Armagh next year. Hopefully we'll survive the carnage that may lie ahead.
If Division 3 is such an insult then perhaps, like Sisyphus, you are doomed to stay there for ever.
I wouldn't be surprised if Geezer actually has the Armagh lads rolling boulders up a hill in training.
Unfortunately results don't lie, we are in Div 3 because of poor play, and self imposed wounds. Armagh needs a radical rethink in terms of management, Geezer has tried but I'd not be sure the resources are available to improve things and whilst calling for his head is an obvious reaction, I don't think it would help. Adding Oisin or a McEntee might help.
Quote from: Jinxy on February 27, 2017, 01:38:42 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 27, 2017, 10:03:31 AM
QuoteOur natural habitat is upper Div 2
Oh this is so funny.
We look forward to playing ye again in Armagh next year. Hopefully we'll survive the carnage that may lie ahead.
If Division 3 is such an insult then perhaps, like Sisyphus, you are doomed to stay there for ever.
I wouldn't be surprised if Geezer actually has the Armagh lads rolling boulders up a hill in training.
Why Jinxy?
They have angered the Gods.
Quote from: mcklatchee on February 26, 2017, 10:55:27 PM
I hear they are complaining on the Armagh county website about the lack of traffic after a victory. If you ban the posters they are somewhat less likely to post
Was reading it there myself. I am not banned but just cannot be arsed posting. Its been whittled down to a few blind yes men. A complete echo chamber
Quote from: mcklatchee on February 26, 2017, 10:55:27 PM
I hear they are complaining on the Armagh county website about the lack of traffic after a victory. If you ban the posters they are somewhat less likely to post
Plenty people not banned are missing. Not just now but they always go missing after a win. Too many happy to give it out when we lose.
Quote from: LCohen on February 27, 2017, 10:42:49 PM
Quote from: mcklatchee on February 26, 2017, 10:55:27 PM
I hear they are complaining on the Armagh county website about the lack of traffic after a victory. If you ban the posters they are somewhat less likely to post
Was reading it there myself. I am not banned but just cannot be arsed posting. Its been whittled down to a few blind yes men. A complete echo chamber
I'll head to get the guide dog at the weekend.
Quote from: Throw ball on February 28, 2017, 12:32:52 AM
I'll head to get the guide dog at the weekend.
See if you can get a spare one for me while you're at it.
I think this one issue is so symptomatic of a wider GAA issue - putting the boot in to those who are prepared to give of their time for others.
I cannot speak of any individual cases, but I do know that we have had challenging issues with the contributions of some of our 'supporters' in the past. That dated back to Barry Coleman's time and eventually he simply threw the head up and closed his site. Into that vacuum came the Armagh GAA Forum and I think it is a great site and offers a range of great services - the fact that they choose to not tolerate people putting the boot into our own is deserving of commendation - not criticism.
Maybe it's me that's doing something wrong - I've been an active member here, on the Armagh Forum, on Reservoir Dubs and on Boards, to name but a few and have not been banned yet. Still, for those not banned and who don't like the way the house rules are applied, then I suggest you vote with your feet, or better still, start your own forum up. Wouldn't mind seeing how long your patience would last moderating with a few solicitors letters landing at your door.
A thankless task, moderating a supporters' forum. Fair play to anyone who takes it on.
Quote from: tippabu on February 11, 2017, 08:10:13 AM
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Tipp were bad but had enough in the second half . Fair play to Antrim who gave it everything . Sorry to the away support for the @rsehole in the Stand , he`s not wanted at Tipp games by the home support !
I take it thats the lad with a shaved head and glasses?
Yep . Seen him at the Munster Junior B game in December between Arravale (He`s from Tipp Town I reckon ) and Oola , neighbouring Clubs , different counties and he walking along the sideline past the Oola dugout giving guff , surprised he didn`t get his boll@ck kicked in :o ! ! !
yeah thats the one, hes at every game. hes def not the full shilling (in a serious way not piss take), doesnt excuse him though, hes a danger and gets people wound up. Its hard to keep quiet when you hear some of the shite he constantly comes out with and he gets people from tipp and opposing counties riled up.
This guy was a nightmare the other night...He was roaring at me and the kids i was with as we left to get down to the corner just as Tipp were about to take the free off the ground from which the goal came from...
I knew he wasn't the full shilling but he was upsets the kids ...I ignored him he was so busy shouting "going home early are we " Go on home ya Clowns" he missed his team goal.....
We used to have one of these lads in Laois about 10-12 years ago but thankfully like a few more unwanted bandwagoners he is no longer attending matches!
By the way I was impressed by Tipp the other night despite Laois being short so many Tipp were well organised and very good in the tackle.
The non existent Laois midfield and the farce of a Black card for donie Kingston certainly helped their cause.
Nice to see Quinlivan get such a good reception from the Laois support going off ...He gave great entertainment to the neutrals last year.
I was impressed with number 23 Jack Kennedy in midfield he was mobile and gave off the right ball.
Fox was immense ...Josh Keane is also a very good player.
with O hallorhan Acheson and Bill maher all to come back Tipp should be in the race for the top spots...
Laois have to beat sligo to have any hope.
With up to 9 players still missing it will be a tough ask
Quote from: Unlaoised on February 28, 2017, 01:36:35 PM
By the way I was impressed by Tipp the other night despite Laois being short so many Tipp were well organised and very good in the tackle.
The non existent Laois midfield and the farce of a Black card for donie Kingston certainly helped their cause.
Nice to see Quinlivan get such a good reception from the Laois support going off ...He gave great entertainment to the neutrals last year.
I was impressed with number 23 Jack Kennedy in midfield he was mobile and gave off the right ball.
Fox was immense ...Josh Keane is also a very good player.
with O hallorhan Acheson and Bill maher all to come back Tipp should be in the race for the top spots...
Laois have to beat sligo to have any hope.
With up to 9 players still missing it will be a tough ask
Jack Kennedy I'd have high hopes for. Josh Keane is a bit of a frustrating one to me. Works hard but does awful daft things at times. As for the lads coming back, O'Halloran was playing on Saturday, and Acheson is in Dubai, so I don't think he'll be back. Bill Maher will be a big addition back. The thing here is I was happy to see Fahy, Kennedy, Casey, Moloney and COnnors all looking like they could at least play some sort of role in Inter County Football. Last year that depth just wasn't there.
What's the story with Jason Lonergan do any of the Tipp lads know?
Quote from: Unlaoised on February 28, 2017, 01:27:47 PM
Quote from: tippabu on February 11, 2017, 08:10:13 AM
Quote from: Horse Box on February 11, 2017, 01:04:06 AM
Quote from: tippabu on February 10, 2017, 10:06:14 PM
Quote from: Horse Box on February 05, 2017, 04:58:49 PM
Tipp were bad but had enough in the second half . Fair play to Antrim who gave it everything . Sorry to the away support for the @rsehole in the Stand , he`s not wanted at Tipp games by the home support !
I take it thats the lad with a shaved head and glasses?
Yep . Seen him at the Munster Junior B game in December between Arravale (He`s from Tipp Town I reckon ) and Oola , neighbouring Clubs , different counties and he walking along the sideline past the Oola dugout giving guff , surprised he didn`t get his boll@ck kicked in :o ! ! !
yeah thats the one, hes at every game. hes def not the full shilling (in a serious way not piss take), doesnt excuse him though, hes a danger and gets people wound up. Its hard to keep quiet when you hear some of the shite he constantly comes out with and he gets people from tipp and opposing counties riled up.
This guy was a nightmare the other night...He was roaring at me and the kids i was with as we left to get down to the corner just as Tipp were about to take the free off the ground from which the goal came from...
I knew he wasn't the full shilling but he was upsets the kids ...I ignored him he was so busy shouting "going home early are we " Go on home ya Clowns" he missed his team goal.....
We used to have one of these lads in Laois about 10-12 years ago but thankfully like a few more unwanted bandwagoners he is no longer attending matches!
Can only apologise, at least ye only have to listen to him for one game, we have to listen to the c*nt at every game and as hasuch been said nobody amongst the tipp support wants him there
Jack is a great prospect, still a bit light and will probably catch him a few games, needs to bulk up a touch.
Jason is still struggling to get over an injury, he shouldn't be far away.
We are starting to get lads back, Acheson is near enough irreplaceable with what he did and is a big loss. Still have shaughnessy, macdonald, Bill maher, Hannigan to come back from last year's team. Things look like they are coming together now after the first two games, hopefully another slight improvement now again this weekend
How's O'Riordan getting on in Oz?
Would this year be make or break for him?
Quote from: Jinxy on February 28, 2017, 02:36:58 PM
How's O'Riordan getting on in Oz?
Would this year be make or break for him?
He made his first senior start there last week I think. I'm not sure this is make or break, but if he makes the panel this year, he's probably right on, or ahead of, schedule.
Quote from: tippabu on February 28, 2017, 02:25:13 PM
Quote from: Unlaoised on February 28, 2017, 01:27:47 PM
Quote from: tippabu on February 11, 2017, 08:10:13 AM
Quote from: Horse Box on February 11, 2017, 01:04:06 AM
Quote from: tippabu on February 10, 2017, 10:06:14 PM
Quote from: Horse Box on February 05, 2017, 04:58:49 PM
Tipp were bad but had enough in the second half . Fair play to Antrim who gave it everything . Sorry to the away support for the @rsehole in the Stand , he`s not wanted at Tipp games by the home support !
I take it thats the lad with a shaved head and glasses?
Yep . Seen him at the Munster Junior B game in December between Arravale (He`s from Tipp Town I reckon ) and Oola , neighbouring Clubs , different counties and he walking along the sideline past the Oola dugout giving guff , surprised he didn`t get his boll@ck kicked in :o ! ! !
yeah thats the one, hes at every game. hes def not the full shilling (in a serious way not piss take), doesnt excuse him though, hes a danger and gets people wound up. Its hard to keep quiet when you hear some of the shite he constantly comes out with and he gets people from tipp and opposing counties riled up.
This guy was a nightmare the other night...He was roaring at me and the kids i was with as we left to get down to the corner just as Tipp were about to take the free off the ground from which the goal came from...
I knew he wasn't the full shilling but he was upsets the kids ...I ignored him he was so busy shouting "going home early are we " Go on home ya Clowns" he missed his team goal.....
We used to have one of these lads in Laois about 10-12 years ago but thankfully like a few more unwanted bandwagoners he is no longer attending matches!
Can only apologise, at least ye only have to listen to him for one game, we have to listen to the c*nt at every game and as hasuch been said nobody amongst the tipp support wants him there
No need for you to apologise ...As I said he was upsetting people and kids around me if it was my kids it might have been a different story...I know by the time I got down to the corner of the stand just after the Tipp goal had crossed the line(i had a perfect view)He had got into some sort of an argument...
As I said I didn't take much notice I seen him in Thurles before...One of these days he will get a black eye for himself...
Can only apologise, at least ye only have to listen to him for one game, we have to listen to the c*nt at every game and as hasuch been said nobody amongst the tipp support wants him there
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Well said and it will be someone from the Tipp Support that gives Penfold a kicking !
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on February 28, 2017, 09:30:38 AM
Quote from: Throw ball on February 28, 2017, 12:32:52 AM
I'll head to get the guide dog at the weekend.
See if you can get a spare one for me while you're at it.
I think this one issue is so symptomatic of a wider GAA issue - putting the boot in to those who are prepared to give of their time for others.
I cannot speak of any individual cases, but I do know that we have had challenging issues with the contributions of some of our 'supporters' in the past. That dated back to Barry Coleman's time and eventually he simply threw the head up and closed his site. Into that vacuum came the Armagh GAA Forum and I think it is a great site and offers a range of great services - the fact that they choose to not tolerate people putting the boot into our own is deserving of commendation - not criticism.
Maybe it's me that's doing something wrong - I've been an active member here, on the Armagh Forum, on Reservoir Dubs and on Boards, to name but a few and have not been banned yet. Still, for those not banned and who don't like the way the house rules are applied, then I suggest you vote with your feet, or better still, start your own forum up. Wouldn't mind seeing how long your patience would last moderating with a few solicitors letters landing at your door.
People cross lines or break rules and they risk being banned.
I abused nobody. I broke no rules.
I was banned without warning because I asked a question about the direction we are going. If that is crossing a line then the "echo chamber" reference is apt and contributors should know that is the penalty for crossing that particular line and that is the sort of "fan site " they are left with
Anyone from Sligo know a cheap B&B to stay up in Saturday night?
Looking forward to the trip up there really enjoyed it the last time which was a few years back 2011
Laois were in better shape back then getting to the division 2 league final only loosing to very good Donegal team by a point
3-4-2011
Sligo 2-08 - 1-14Laois -Markievicz Park, Sligo
Scores from Sligo -A Marren 2-4 (1-0 pen, 2f), A Costello 0-2, S Davey, E O'Hara 0-1 each
Scores from Laois -M J Tierney 0-5 (2f), B Quigley 1-0, J O'Loughlin, D Strong, C Begley 0-2 each, G Kavanagh, R Munnelly, N Donoher 0-1 each
Lots of bnb's available - the pitch is on the pearse road and there are plenty bnb's nearby. Sligo park hotel (or whatever it's called now) is less than a half mile away too.
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 01, 2017, 05:26:35 PM
Lots of bnb's available - the pitch is on the pearse road and there are plenty bnb's nearby. Sligo park hotel (or whatever it's called now) is less than a half mile away too.
Sligo park and riverside booked out unfortunately ...Laois squad staying in the Park hotel I think!
Quote from: Unlaoised on March 02, 2017, 09:56:51 AM
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 01, 2017, 05:26:35 PM
Lots of bnb's available - the pitch is on the pearse road and there are plenty bnb's nearby. Sligo park hotel (or whatever it's called now) is less than a half mile away too.
Sligo park and riverside booked out unfortunately ...Laois squad staying in the Park hotel I think!
Any amount of B&B's are along Pearse Road either side of the run by Markievicz Park. Other hotels are much further away and mainly on the other side of the town or in the town centre itself. Alternatively if you prefer to make a night of it on Saturday you could always opt for Strandhill instead, the Strand should be decent on Saturday nights, I'm sure Seanie would attest to that.
Quote from: Owenmoresider on March 02, 2017, 05:51:33 PM
Quote from: Unlaoised on March 02, 2017, 09:56:51 AM
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 01, 2017, 05:26:35 PM
Lots of bnb's available - the pitch is on the pearse road and there are plenty bnb's nearby. Sligo park hotel (or whatever it's called now) is less than a half mile away too.
Sligo park and riverside booked out unfortunately ...Laois squad staying in the Park hotel I think!
Any amount of B&B's are along Pearse Road either side of the run by Markievicz Park. Other hotels are much further away and mainly on the other side of the town or in the town centre itself. Alternatively if you prefer to make a night of it on Saturday you could always opt for Strandhill instead, the Strand should be decent on Saturday nights, I'm sure Seanie would attest to that.
Glasshouse or Southern Hotel are in the centre of town a nice 30 minute uphill walk to Markievicz (I'd get a taxi!). As the lads have said there are a fair few B&B's along Pearse Road which is very close to the ground. I only live out the road so I'd never have need for booking accommodation in the town so sorry I can't be more specific.
Only with the help of God will we get a result in Tipp this Sunday.
We're the warm up to the hurling.
Relegation becoming a major worry for me now :'(
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 03, 2017, 09:39:35 AM
Only with the help of God will we get a result in Tipp this Sunday.
We're the warm up to the hurling.
Relegation becoming a major worry for me now :'(
Tipp were poor against Antrim and Sligo, a bit better and more promising against Laois. Whether that is the beginning of a steady improvement for them, or just a blip on a road of inconsistency has yet to be determined. Don't panic yet.
Are you heading down?
Any of you Offaly men heading up North for Sundays game
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 03, 2017, 09:42:18 AM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 03, 2017, 09:39:35 AM
Only with the help of God will we get a result in Tipp this Sunday.
We're the warm up to the hurling.
Relegation becoming a major worry for me now :'(
Tipp were poor against Antrim and Sligo, a bit better and more promising against Laois. Whether that is the beginning of a steady improvement for them, or just a blip on a road of inconsistency has yet to be determined. Don't panic yet.
Are you heading down?
Ach no. Not this time. Still scarred from the game there in the AIQs a few years ago where they ate us.
I think the next one I'll get to is the Antrim game in Corrigan Park in Belfast.
Will all the games Escape the Weather in this Division this Sunday I have my doubts ....Laois would only love for it to be called off we are missing so many key players through injury!
I wonder will the Tipperary Footballers be allowed play in Semple Stadium before the hurlers?
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 03, 2017, 05:50:41 PM
I wonder will the Tipperary Footballers be allowed play in Semple Stadium before the hurlers?
Don't mind if it's before or after just as long as it's played in semple
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 03, 2017, 05:50:41 PM
I wonder will the Tipperary Footballers be allowed play in Semple Stadium before the hurlers?
Hearing longford game postponed, hurling still goes ahead
Confirmed. Timmy Floyd just sent around text. Provisionally fixed for next weekend. Hurling goes ahead. I knew they wouldn't let the football ruin the pitch for the Hurlers. I'm glad they didn't ship it off to clonmel or tipperary town.
WHAT?
The game is postponed so as not to inconvenience the hurlers!
FFS - is there no other ground in Tipp that could have hosted it?
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 04, 2017, 01:55:07 PM
WHAT?
The game is postponed so as not to inconvenience the hurlers!
FFS - is there no other ground in Tipp that could have hosted it?
There are other grounds but they may not have been any better.
If both games were postponed I could understand it.
But bump the poor relation cos it doesn't really matter.
Not sure how this will affect our 'run in' with the crucial games to come v Sligo, Laois and Antrim.
Still find it hard to believe that there isn't a ground, in all of Tipp, that has a drained pitch that could have hosted the game.
Anyway.......
Weather here in Sligo has been dire and is awful today. Hard to see the game going ahead in Markievicz tomorrow if this keeps up.
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 04, 2017, 03:34:56 PM
Weather here in Sligo has been dire and is awful today. Hard to see the game going ahead in Markievicz tomorrow if this keeps up.
Move it to Easkey or Enniscrone, be worth a few points surely. ;D
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 04, 2017, 01:55:07 PM
WHAT?
The game is postponed so as not to inconvenience the hurlers!
FFS - is there no other ground in Tipp that could have hosted it?
Awful messing with the Kildare fixture last year as well. Poor relations..
Quote from: Owenmoresider on March 04, 2017, 03:51:48 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 04, 2017, 03:34:56 PM
Weather here in Sligo has been dire and is awful today. Hard to see the game going ahead in Markievicz tomorrow if this keeps up.
Move it to Easkey or Enniscrone, be worth a few points surely. ;D
Not too many of our team would have played a lot in those spots I'd guess.
There's a retweet up on Sligo GAA that the game is to go ahead in Markievicz subject to a morning pitch inspection. The hurling game beforehand has been moved elsewhere.
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 04, 2017, 01:36:37 PM
Confirmed. Timmy Floyd just sent around text. Provisionally fixed for next weekend. Hurling goes ahead. I knew they wouldn't let the football ruin the pitch for the Hurlers. I'm glad they didn't ship it off to clonmel or tipperary town.
Or Nenagh , I know Eire Og were contacted to see if McDonagh was available !
10 mins into the second half Armagh 5-15 0-6 Offaly.
Sligo 0-7 Laois 2-6 HT
Louth 2:8-1:7 Antrim , 10 Minutes left !
10 mins left Armagh 6-18 0-8 Offaly.
I think Pat Flanagan's days are numbered in Offaly, there has been a good bit of discontent lately from their supporters and a result like that can't be tolerated by a proud county like Offaly. The players are limited to be fair but a result like that only happens when there is a serious lack of motivation and organisation.
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 05, 2017, 03:25:31 PM
I think Pat Flanagan's days are numbered in Offaly, there has been a good bit of discontent lately from their supporters and a result like that can't be tolerated by a proud county like Offaly. The players are limited to be fair but a result like that only happens when there is a serious lack of motivation and organisation.
3 weeks ago : Offaly 0-23 - 1-07 Antrim
Today : Armagh: 6-22 - Offaly 0-10 !
:o :-[ :-\ !
Pitch in thurles doesn't exactly look unplayable...surely they could have just swapped the two games and put hurling on first
Any score from Sligo Laois game?
Sligo won 0-18 to 2-10
Fair auld relegation battle for division 4 now. Armagh have gone from a points difference of +1 to +31, the best in all 4 leagues I think.
Great result, we were pure shyte in the first half and were getting hammered until meaney decided to be a meaney and punch Niall Murphy in the face and was duly rewarded with an early shower. Second half we scored 11 points (10 from play), and open Laois up with quick ball.
Great to see Pat Hughes back and Cian Breheny. Massive performance from Keelan Cawley who is back from a shoulder injury.
Hard luck to Laois, we are out of relegation zone and back in the promotion hunt.
Hard luck to St Attractas yesterday.
Quote from: Horse Box on March 05, 2017, 03:51:47 PM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 05, 2017, 03:25:31 PM
I think Pat Flanagan's days are numbered in Offaly, there has been a good bit of discontent lately from their supporters and a result like that can't be tolerated by a proud county like Offaly. The players are limited to be fair but a result like that only happens when there is a serious lack of motivation and organisation.
3 weeks ago : Offaly 0-23 - 1-07 Antrim
Today : Armagh: 6-22 - Offaly 0-10 !
:o :-[ :-\ !
Something badly wrong here
Quote from: Horse Box on March 05, 2017, 03:51:47 PM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 05, 2017, 03:25:31 PM
I think Pat Flanagan's days are numbered in Offaly, there has been a good bit of discontent lately from their supporters and a result like that can't be tolerated by a proud county like Offaly. The players are limited to be fair but a result like that only happens when there is a serious lack of motivation and organisation.
3 weeks ago : Offaly 0-23 - 1-07 Antrim
Today : Armagh: 6-22 - Offaly 0-10 !
:o :-[ :-\ !
Is this the Offaly of Seamus Darby, the Lowry brothers and the Connor brothers?
https://youtu.be/Wxgju-2xbfQ (https://youtu.be/Wxgju-2xbfQ)
https://youtu.be/Kba6NYKQH5k (https://youtu.be/Kba6NYKQH5k)
https://youtu.be/PICamSfnA2o (https://youtu.be/PICamSfnA2o)
Tough for Offaly today. Armagh have had the chances to put up big scores in a few matches but it clicked today. They were 10 up after 9 minutes and there was no way back from there. I am sure Offaly are not as bad as the score suggests.
Armagh are willing to get men forward. For no more than 5 minutes did Offaly look capable of punishing us for that. The big score early on insured no vulnerability to the trademarked collapse. We should be punishing teams like this and today we did. No point saying against better opposition it wouldn't have been that easy. Today we beat what was in front of us. The Tipp match is the only real signal we get from this division on how we might do against Down.
Scorers from today's game:
Charlie Vernon 0-01
Niall Rowland 1-0
Stephen Sheridan 0-2
Ben Crealey 0-02
Rory Grugan 1-03
Anto Duffy 1-01
Niall Grimley 1-03
Jamie Clarke 0-02
Stefan Campbell 1-04
Andrew Murnin 1-02
Gavin McParland 0-01
Oisin McKeever 0-01
TBH the scoreline probably flattered Offaly, on a number of occasions Armagh took a fisted point when a goal could have been one. Armagh's forward line functioned very well today, it's good to see Murnin back, and playing well. Ciaran McKeever at full forward is interesting, he was excellent at winning ball and laying it off to an incoming runner.
Armagh were very impressive but how shite were Offaly. We do have a very potent forward division and once again we were great to watch going forward, the well documented troubles are at the other end of the field, but Brendan Donaghy has defo given us a bit of badly needed solidity at CHB. We're still not great at MF although you wouldn't have thought it today as I thought two of our standouts were Grimley & Sheridan.
Armagh's full forward line is top class, it was a joy to behold. Grimley and Grugan were excellent too, as was Brendy and Charlie at the back. Today will have brought the young lads on in leaps and bounds. Great to be smiling leaving the Athletic Grounds today for a change!
Armagh were enjoyable to watch but jeez it was like a game for a pitch opening.
Offaly were awful but that said the Armagh full forward line was lethal.
Jamie I think won everything that came his way.
Defence still very shaky but good to see James Morgan on the line so I would assume he will get minutes against Louth.
Hopefully Andy Mallon comes back and then we can start focusing on our mourner neighbours.
For me though things starting to take shape.
Quote from: Take Your Points on March 05, 2017, 04:56:58 PM
Quote from: Horse Box on March 05, 2017, 03:51:47 PM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on March 05, 2017, 03:25:31 PM
I think Pat Flanagan's days are numbered in Offaly, there has been a good bit of discontent lately from their supporters and a result like that can't be tolerated by a proud county like Offaly. The players are limited to be fair but a result like that only happens when there is a serious lack of motivation and organisation.
3 weeks ago : Offaly 0-23 - 1-07 Antrim
Today : Armagh: 6-22 - Offaly 0-10 !
:o :-[ :-\ !
Is this the Offaly of Seamus Darby, the Lowry brothers and the Connor brothers?
https://youtu.be/Wxgju-2xbfQ (https://youtu.be/Wxgju-2xbfQ)
https://youtu.be/Kba6NYKQH5k (https://youtu.be/Kba6NYKQH5k)
https://youtu.be/PICamSfnA2o (https://youtu.be/PICamSfnA2o)
Had the pleasure of meeting the great Matt Connor at the game today. Was just thinking what was going through his mind about Offaly today. Must be hard not to look back to those great times in the 70s and 80s. The Offaly supporters around me seemed fairly passive and resigned to things. Was struck by the lack of anger.
As for Armagh, as others have said our strength is in the forward line, particularly the full forwards. They showed good team play today which brought about the goals, passing to the man in the better position. Good to see that. The defence tightened up a lot in the second half but Offaly were a busted flush at that stage. We looked fairly suspect any time Offaly did attack us in the first half and based on that i would worry what damage a good team would do to us. The way we're set up at the moment it looks like being a straight shootout from game to game -with the best forwards winning out.
Our manager wasn't too impressed with the Semple Stadium shenanigans judging by the article on balls.ie
"We're Fuming" - Longford Manager's Anger At Tipperary Fixture Debacle
Amid a Congress which placed the issue of a prospective, regimented fixture list high on the agenda, the GAA has witnessed a flagrant disregard for existing fixtures on successive weekends. Last weekend, the clash between Tyrone and Cavan, fixed for a half-flooded Healy Park was called off just an hour before throw-in.
This weekend, we saw another postponement in the Allianz Football League, although in contrast, this decision was notable for early it was made. Longford were due to face Tipperary as part of a double-header in Semple Stadium this afternoon, a 1pm throw-in preceding the hurling game between Tipperary and Clare, fixed for 3pm. The football game, however, was postponed at 12.30pm on Saturday afternoon, while the hurling went ahead as planned. The Longford game has yet to be refixed, but is expected to be played next weekend.
Longford manager Denis Connerton spoke exclusively to Balls.ie to articulate his frustration with the entire situation, saying that he and his panel are "fuming" with the fact that the game could not be played this weekend.
We heard yesterday afternoon that the match was cancelled because the pitch would not be able to take two matches. Of course, the football had to go and not the hurling, which is very annoying from our point of view, because we had all of our preparation done for the match, we had our travel arrangements made, our catering, and what have you.
It's the only match off in the four divisions in the National Football League, so you would have to wonder about other venues in Tipperary, and why there wasn't another pitch available.
I was given a reason that the pitch was not able to play two matches.
We were informed very early. At around 12.30pm yesterday, we were notified that the game was off. That was very early to call the game off.
The canceling of the game hits Longford hard. Following an opening day victory over Offaly, Longford lost narrowly to Louth and Armagh in rounds two and three, so even the consolidation of Division Three status will be hurt by fixture congestion and the lack of availability of their full squad, issues exacerbated by the postponing of this afternoon's game.
That affects us greatly. We will be without our under-21s next weekend. We would have had them this weekend, after their exploits against Kildare [in the Leinster U-21 championship earlier this week]. Now we will not have them in our squad next weekend, that's four players out of our squad. Also, we now have to play four matches in three weeks, which, for a small county, with limited resources, is going to be very, very difficult.
We're fuming that the match has been called off today. There's a reason for the weeks' break in the National League: it's an opportunity for teams to refresh themselves. That opportunity has been denied to us now. We will have to play four matches in three weeks, and we will have to travel to three of those matches.
We have to do all that [planning] all over again. At this stage, we don't know whether the match is on a Saturday, or whether the match is on a Sunday. And we don't even know the time, we don't even know the date, and we don't even know the venue of the match.
Connerton reiterates his belief that the game should not have been postponed, and that Longford should have been given the opportunity to find an alternative venue. Having been denied that opportunity, Connerton says that home advantage should be awarded to Longford in the refixed game.
We're very annoyed over it. When there wasn't a venue in Tipperary to host that match, at that early stage we'd have found a venue to host it: either in Longford, or, if needs be, it should have been moved to an Offaly venue, or a Laois venue, or another neutral venue that could have staged the game. I don't believe that the match should have fallen this weekend.
We feel that we should get a home venue in this game. We were ready to travel, it is not our fault that the match was called off, and we are now faced with playing three matches away from home in three weeks, and one single match at home, and it is not our fault that match fell.
This issue is sure to further sour relations between the respective counties. Last May, Tipperary agreed to fulfill a challenge match against Longford to mark the opening of the new pitch at the Carrickedmond club, but reneged on the agreement the day prior to the match. Longford were ultimately forced to play an As vs Bs challenge match instead, having been unable to secure an alternative opponent.
The Tipperary county board did not respond to our calls for comment at the time of publication.
Match should have went ahead, no question
Great result for us and typical of our Jekyll and Hyde nature we seem to mixed the sublime with the ridiculous. When we move the ball quickly and are disciplined in defence including getting our matchups correct we can be a very good outfit. Delighted we have 5 points on the board before we hit into the U21 championship. We should give the U21's first call on the likes of Paddy O'Connor, Kyle Cawley, O'Kelly Lynch and co from now.
Wasn't able to go to game but great to see how well Coen did. Has had his issues over the years but he does offer more than Mark at this stage. Brilliant to see Hughes back. Cian Breheny can be hit and miss but his athleticism and some of the things he can do are unique so we need to harness that and get more consistency from him. I don't know why he's been in and out of the team over the last 20 odd months but we need him. Keelan seems to have given a super returning performance. Great lad. 5 points from play from Murf, some crucial ones when we were not functioning in the first half. Ross a huge loss as we seem to be pretty threadbare in the fb line.....hope he's not out long and Daniel Maye can get back into the mix.
Commiserations to Attractas. Thought they'd do it but nevertheless doing great work at developing players.
Former Offaly star Paraic Sullivan has used Twitter to defend the Faithful players:
In disbelief at some of the comments regarding football results at the weekend. It's alarming how many people are shocked by this. The game has changed significantly yet we still expect a competitive competition. It's not a level playing field. All teams have different populations, amount of clubs, funding, amenities and previous success.
We are nearing professional standards in regards to time spent training and workload expected from players. Because of this, the teams with the best set-up(s) will prosper. It's just basic common sense.
Having a professional set-up in which the players train like athletes, recover like athletes and are athletes breeds success. All the rules and parameters have changed yet people's opinions and expectations remain the same. The game has evolved significantly in a short period and because the majority of the counties do not have the resources, funding or forward thinking, not only are they lagging behind but being embarrassed.
"It's not the players' fault. I can't reiterate that enough but unless there is some way of capping the funding or implementing something so that it is somewhat even across the board, we are in danger of seriously losing some teams from competing. That is the stark reality, and it's really sad to think that might happen.
To our own supporters, please give the guys a break. Offaly has a population of 75,000 people and has eight senior teams. Let's get real with our expectations. 1971, '72 and '81 are gone. No comparisons to today. Serves no purpose.
Players have full-time jobs, long commutes and other commitments. Lay off!
I could see Armagh winning well I backed them -5 but I didn't see that coming!
Armagh has a population of 174,792. It would be fair to say you could halve that population for the Protestant people who don't play GAA so i'd say population wise they'd be similar. I do agree with him on the funding though, it's a case of the rich getting richer (or the fit getting fitter ;))
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 06, 2017, 09:38:46 AM
Our manager wasn't too impressed with the Semple Stadium shenanigans judging by the article on balls.ie
"We're Fuming" - Longford Manager's Anger At Tipperary Fixture Debacle
Amid a Congress which placed the issue of a prospective, regimented fixture list high on the agenda, the GAA has witnessed a flagrant disregard for existing fixtures on successive weekends. Last weekend, the clash between Tyrone and Cavan, fixed for a half-flooded Healy Park was called off just an hour before throw-in.
This weekend, we saw another postponement in the Allianz Football League, although in contrast, this decision was notable for early it was made. Longford were due to face Tipperary as part of a double-header in Semple Stadium this afternoon, a 1pm throw-in preceding the hurling game between Tipperary and Clare, fixed for 3pm. The football game, however, was postponed at 12.30pm on Saturday afternoon, while the hurling went ahead as planned. The Longford game has yet to be refixed, but is expected to be played next weekend.
Longford manager Denis Connerton spoke exclusively to Balls.ie to articulate his frustration with the entire situation, saying that he and his panel are "fuming" with the fact that the game could not be played this weekend.
We heard yesterday afternoon that the match was cancelled because the pitch would not be able to take two matches. Of course, the football had to go and not the hurling, which is very annoying from our point of view, because we had all of our preparation done for the match, we had our travel arrangements made, our catering, and what have you.
It's the only match off in the four divisions in the National Football League, so you would have to wonder about other venues in Tipperary, and why there wasn't another pitch available.
I was given a reason that the pitch was not able to play two matches.
We were informed very early. At around 12.30pm yesterday, we were notified that the game was off. That was very early to call the game off.
The canceling of the game hits Longford hard. Following an opening day victory over Offaly, Longford lost narrowly to Louth and Armagh in rounds two and three, so even the consolidation of Division Three status will be hurt by fixture congestion and the lack of availability of their full squad, issues exacerbated by the postponing of this afternoon's game.
That affects us greatly. We will be without our under-21s next weekend. We would have had them this weekend, after their exploits against Kildare [in the Leinster U-21 championship earlier this week]. Now we will not have them in our squad next weekend, that's four players out of our squad. Also, we now have to play four matches in three weeks, which, for a small county, with limited resources, is going to be very, very difficult.
We're fuming that the match has been called off today. There's a reason for the weeks' break in the National League: it's an opportunity for teams to refresh themselves. That opportunity has been denied to us now. We will have to play four matches in three weeks, and we will have to travel to three of those matches.
We have to do all that [planning] all over again. At this stage, we don't know whether the match is on a Saturday, or whether the match is on a Sunday. And we don't even know the time, we don't even know the date, and we don't even know the venue of the match.
Connerton reiterates his belief that the game should not have been postponed, and that Longford should have been given the opportunity to find an alternative venue. Having been denied that opportunity, Connerton says that home advantage should be awarded to Longford in the refixed game.
We're very annoyed over it. When there wasn't a venue in Tipperary to host that match, at that early stage we'd have found a venue to host it: either in Longford, or, if needs be, it should have been moved to an Offaly venue, or a Laois venue, or another neutral venue that could have staged the game. I don't believe that the match should have fallen this weekend.
We feel that we should get a home venue in this game. We were ready to travel, it is not our fault that the match was called off, and we are now faced with playing three matches away from home in three weeks, and one single match at home, and it is not our fault that match fell.
This issue is sure to further sour relations between the respective counties. Last May, Tipperary agreed to fulfill a challenge match against Longford to mark the opening of the new pitch at the Carrickedmond club, but reneged on the agreement the day prior to the match. Longford were ultimately forced to play an As vs Bs challenge match instead, having been unable to secure an alternative opponent.
The Tipperary county board did not respond to our calls for comment at the time of publication.
As a Tipp Football Supporter I am also very disappointed , from what I hear the game could have gone ahead . Nenagh was looked into , but Eire Og wouldn`t give the use of it . The Tipp Team and Management want games played in Thurles anyway . Can`t remember the last time a competitive Senior Football game was played in Nenagh ( played the Dubs in a friendly there last year ) .
Tipp longford officially fixed for Saturday at 5 as double header with kilkenny match!!
Quote from: Take Your Points on March 06, 2017, 02:45:08 PM
Former Offaly star Paraic Sullivan has used Twitter to defend the Faithful players:
In disbelief at some of the comments regarding football results at the weekend. It's alarming how many people are shocked by this. The game has changed significantly yet we still expect a competitive competition. It's not a level playing field. All teams have different populations, amount of clubs, funding, amenities and previous success.
We are nearing professional standards in regards to time spent training and workload expected from players. Because of this, the teams with the best set-up(s) will prosper. It's just basic common sense.
Having a professional set-up in which the players train like athletes, recover like athletes and are athletes breeds success. All the rules and parameters have changed yet people's opinions and expectations remain the same. The game has evolved significantly in a short period and because the majority of the counties do not have the resources, funding or forward thinking, not only are they lagging behind but being embarrassed.
"It's not the players' fault. I can't reiterate that enough but unless there is some way of capping the funding or implementing something so that it is somewhat even across the board, we are in danger of seriously losing some teams from competing. That is the stark reality, and it's really sad to think that might happen.
To our own supporters, please give the guys a break. Offaly has a population of 75,000 people and has eight senior teams. Let's get real with our expectations. 1971, '72 and '81 are gone. No comparisons to today. Serves no purpose.
Players have full-time jobs, long commutes and other commitments. Lay off!
Valid points re disparity in resources. Misses the point if he thinks merely having the financial or indeed playing resources makes the difference. Resources make life easier for those who know how to marshal them.
Valid points re the ask on modern players. That's the bit that needs intervention
We were going to tank someone as soon as we sorted our defence or met someone who didn't know how to attack or someone who just gave up. Still don't know what category Offaly fell into yesterday
Tipp coounty board antics regarding their football team .Disgusting as it it probably reflect how many Hurling teams are treated in Football counties.
the pity is how good tipp are and there is still more to be got out of them,
this year could be the most competitive munster championship in a generation or two
Quote from: rosnarun on March 06, 2017, 06:46:32 PM
Tipp coounty board antics regarding their football team .Disgusting as it it probably reflect how many Hurling teams are treated in Football counties.
the pity is how good tipp are and there is still more to be got out of them,
this year could be the most competitive munster championship in a generation or two
Makes no sense (not your post, the decisions) Im shocked they are putting tipp longford on now before the tipp kilkenny game, maybe there was a genuine fear last week with the forecast not to play two games last weekend but i really wouldnt be surprised to the grass in templetouhy was been told to be cut and have the place ready "just in case".
Quote from: LCohen on March 05, 2017, 05:37:00 PM
Armagh are willing to get men forward. For no more than 5 minutes did Offaly look capable of punishing us for that. The big score early on insured no vulnerability to the trademarked collapse. We should be punishing teams like this and today we did. No point saying against better opposition it wouldn't have been that easy. Today we beat what was in front of us. The Tipp match is the only real signal we get from this division on how we might do against Down.
I got there at half time and seen an Armagh team score 3 11 in the second half, unreal. We had one wide in the first half and few in the second.
I think we will get promoted and the players are playing with confidence, I also think we will make wee boys out of them hours next to us come championship time.
Quote from: stew on March 07, 2017, 06:16:34 PM
Quote from: LCohen on March 05, 2017, 05:37:00 PM
Armagh are willing to get men forward. For no more than 5 minutes did Offaly look capable of punishing us for that. The big score early on insured no vulnerability to the trademarked collapse. We should be punishing teams like this and today we did. No point saying against better opposition it wouldn't have been that easy. Today we beat what was in front of us. The Tipp match is the only real signal we get from this division on how we might do against Down.
I got there at half time and seen an Armagh team score 3 11 in the second half, unreal. We had one wide in the first half and few in the second.
I think we will get promoted and the players are playing with confidence, I also think we will make wee boys out of them hours next to us come championship time.
One swallow doesn't make a summer and ye have League Leaders Louth next . If ye don`t win that one 9 is the max number of points Armagh can get , that will hardly be enough !
I honestly think it will come down to the last day with tipp on 10, Armagh and Sligo on 9 and Louth on 8 with Louth needing us to beat Armagh but everyone else with it in their own hands (all 4 playing each other last game) (we'll prob go out and get her by Longford this weekend now!!)
Quote from: tippabu on March 07, 2017, 07:56:22 PM
I honestly think it will come down to the last day with tipp on 10, Armagh and Sligo on 9 and Louth on 8 with Louth needing us to beat Armagh but everyone else with it in their own hands (all 4 playing each other last game) (we'll prob go out and get her by Longford this weekend now!!)
I hope you are right
Any Longford people on here , if so how do ye think ye will go tomorrow . Are the Under 21s playing ?
Quote from: Horse Box on March 10, 2017, 06:16:39 PM
Any Longford people on here , if so how do ye think ye will go tomorrow . Are the Under 21s playing ?
Presume they are, hasn't their under 21 game been put back a week
Tipp started like a train 2-4 to 0-1 up after 9 minutes.
Tipperary 2-8 Longford 0-5 after 20 minutes.
Longford have woken up a bit but sounds like Tipp forward line is doing wreck.
http://tippfm.com/
Tipperary 2-9 Longford 0-9 30 minutes
Longford have done better the last 10 minutes and closed the gap a bit, with the goals the only difference now.
Longford doing a Barcelona?
Tipp 2-09
Long 0-12 almost half time
Tipperary 2-10 Longford 0-12
Longford started off slowly but have done a very solid sounding job of getting back into it with the gap down to 4 points at half-time.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 11, 2017, 05:38:50 PM
Longford doing a Barcelona?
Tipp 2-09
Long 0-12 almost half time
I'd say it sounds like Longford got more on top at mid-field as the game went on - both sets of forwards seem to have both defences in a bit of bother whenever they get the ball - both sides with 12 scores apiece and only a small number of wides/missed efforts.
Listening to radio seems like a daycent Longford crowd travelled. Unless early Kilkennys are there doing an ABT
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 11, 2017, 05:44:52 PM
Listening to radio seems like a daycent Longford crowd travelled. Unless early Kilkennys are there doing an ABT
Can't see too many Kilkenny hurling folk arriving early to see Tipp or Longford play football.
All over now!
3-15 to 0-15 :'(
Tipperary 3-17 Longford 0-18 FT
The scores in the first few minutes were crucial for Tipperary - Longford never closed the gap - I think the nearest they got was 3 points.
Was always going to be a massive ask to close the gap with Longford not getting a goal. They did have one notched off for square ball; sounded like a clear-cut decision but if Longford had got a goal there, it would be a big boost coming down the final straight. 3-17 a big score to concede but I'd rate the Tipp attack as strongest in the Division.
Battle for promotion between Louth (8 points) Tipp (6 points) and Sligo and Armagh (5 points) while 4 teams on 2 points apiece in the relegation battle Longford, Laois, Antrim and Offaly.
Score difference is Longford -8 , Laois - 19, Antrim- 19 and Offaly -27.
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 11, 2017, 05:57:10 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 11, 2017, 05:44:52 PM
Listening to radio seems like a daycent Longford crowd travelled. Unless early Kilkennys are there doing an ABT
Can't see too many Kilkenny hurling folk arriving early to see Tipp or Longford play football.
If ye watched the hurling you would know why.
Laoislad will be happy.
was at louth Armagh game yesterday
Armagh looked far sharper and fitter,
its actually a joy to see grugan and Clarke link up, Sheridan and grimly also played well and the block at the end from morgam who was excellent when he came on was fantastic
forker sent off in the first minute was unfortunate but as I didn't see it arriving 5 minutes late I can`t comment.
Armagh look too strong for this league but the defeat to laois may come back to haunt them .
for me there are more reasons to be positive at the moment especially now the kick out strategy seems to be working.
now to get andy mallon back and we will be well placed for the down men
For lovers of open and good football the relegation battle between Laois and Longford is live on eir sport next Sat night.
A win for Longford will see us safe for another year in Div 3. Anything else will mean a trip to Belfast looking for a result.
Have Laois been in Div 4 in recent memory? I cannot recall.
As regards yesterday's match I posted something in the Provisional Div 3 thread. Hope the Ocean FM lads got home safe to familiar environs. The lads were horrid depressed on the radio.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 20, 2017, 11:37:26 AM
For lovers of open and good football the relegation battle between Laois and Longford is live on eir sport next Sat night.
A win for Longford will see us safe for another year in Div 3. Anything else will mean a trip to Belfast looking for a result.
Have Laois been in Div 4 in recent memory? I cannot recall.
As regards yesterday's match I posted something in the Provisional Div 3 thread. Hope the Ocean FM lads got home safe to familiar environs. The lads were horrid depressed on the radio.
Longford by 17 points. You could play Niall Sheridan and you would still win.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 20, 2017, 11:37:26 AM
For lovers of open and good football the relegation battle between Laois and Longford is live on eir sport next Sat night.
A win for Longford will see us safe for another year in Div 3. Anything else will mean a trip to Belfast looking for a result.
Have Laois been in Div 4 in recent memory? I cannot recall.
As regards yesterday's match I posted something in the Provisional Div 3 thread. Hope the Ocean FM lads got home safe to familiar environs. The lads were horrid depressed on the radio.
They live in an alternative reality to most of the rest of us. I think it's a clever tactic by the county board to make sure people go to games cos otherwise you'd have no idea what happened.
Laois and longford makes it interesting. Realistically you would expect armagh to beat antrim so antrim will need to beat longford in the last game.
I saw the fixtures somewhere on this board...
Laois sligo last game?
Then there is offaly who could do something yet too.
Remaining games
Saturday, March 25, 2017
Athletic Grounds 19:00 Armagh v Antrim
Portlaoise : 19:00 Laois v Longford
Sunday, March 26, 2017
Markievicz Park 15:00 Sligo v Offaly
Semple Stadium 15:00 Tipperary v Louth
Sunday, April 02, 2017
Corrigan Park, Belfast 14:00 Antrim v Longford
Gaelic Grounds, Drogheda 14:00 Louth v Sligo
Athletic Grounds 14:00 Armagh v Tipperary
O Connor Park, Tullamore 14:00 Offaly v Laois
Armagh need a point from the Tipp game, but on recent form this seems possible.
This table is more up to date.
Allianz FL3 P W D L Dif Pts
Louth 5 4 0 1 8 8
Tipperary 5 4 0 1 22 8
Armagh 5 3 1 1 44 7
Sligo 5 2 1 2 -1 5
Longford 5 2 0 3 -3 5
Antrim 5 2 0 3 -17 4
Laois 5 1 0 4 -22 2
Offaly 5 1 0 4 -41 2
Quote from: ardchieftain on March 20, 2017, 09:18:46 PM
This table is more up to date.
Indeed it is, sure why would GAA.ie have the proper table?
Sloppy work from Armaghniac.
1 from 3 to go down it looks like and 2 from 5 to go up...( well likely 2 from 3)
Tight division. Sligo could maybe make it yet looking at fixtures.armagh 2 home games which suits them. Tipp and Armagh big game but then there are a lot of big games both ends in there.
Divisions 2 and 3 best of the lot.
Team P W D L +/- Pts.
1 Tipperary 5 4 0 1 22 8
2 Louth 5 4 0 1 8 8
3 Armagh 5 3 1 1 44 7
4 Sligo 5 2 1 2 -1 5
5 Longford 5 2 0 3 -3 4
6 Antrim 5 2 0 3 -17 4
7 Laois 5 1 0 4 -22 2
8 Offaly 5 1 0 4 -31 2
Paddy Power
Tipperary 1/5
Armagh 8/15
Louth 5/6
Sligo 11/2
Not sure that Tipp are such a good bet, there has to some chance of being beaten by both Louth and Armagh.
Quote from: armaghniac on March 20, 2017, 09:49:21 PM
Paddy Power
Tipperary 1/5
Armagh 8/15
Louth 5/6
Sligo 11/2
Not sure that Tipp are such a good bet, there has to some chance of being beaten by both Louth and Armagh.
If tipp beat Louth next weekend we go up no matter what and our last game against Armagh doesn't matter as we'd have Louth on the head to head. Likewise if Louth beat us then they go up automatically on the head to head no matter what the only difference is if Louth beat us then we would have a game against Armagh where a win would put us up and not Armagh.
Longford Sligo game yesterday was entertaining without the quality being too high - lot of sloppy, silly mistakes from both sides, especially win terms of shooting. Longford conceded 2 soft goals but seemed more dangerous in attack. Silly sending off of the experienced Harrison was a big turning point but Longford should have been out of sight early in second half but spurned Id say 2-4 in about 5 minutes!
Overall, fairly typical division 3 fare, pernickty ref who wont be seen come summer and Longford performing pretty true to form n terms of good in attack but porous and open at the back despite having plenty of players back! Good enough to stay up and hopefully should be bale to pick up at least 1 point from last 2 games, even though away form is patchy to say the least. Heres to a good showing from the U-21s Wed night!
Quote from: armaghniac on March 20, 2017, 09:49:21 PM
Paddy Power
Tipperary 1/5
Armagh 8/15
Louth 5/6
Sligo 11/2
Not sure that Tipp are such a good bet, there has to some chance of being beaten by both Louth and Armagh.
True , Tipp have been slow out of the traps v Offaly , Antrim and Sligo . Clawed 2 of them back and nearly caught Sligo ! If Tipp can start solidly against Louth we should win it handy , Armagh will be something else entirely . Armagh should win the Division Final but I hear the their backs are a weak link , if so Tipp have the forwards and it should be a high scoring game in the last round and indeed the Final should they both make it !
Quote from: Horse Box on March 21, 2017, 12:37:07 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 20, 2017, 09:49:21 PM
Paddy Power
Tipperary 1/5
Armagh 8/15
Louth 5/6
Sligo 11/2
Not sure that Tipp are such a good bet, there has to some chance of being beaten by both Louth and Armagh.
True , Tipp have been slow out of the traps v Offaly , Antrim and Sligo . Clawed 2 of them back and nearly caught Sligo ! If Tipp can start solidly against Louth we should win it handy , Armagh will be something else entirely . Armagh should win the Division Final but I hear the their backs are a weak link , if so Tipp have the forwards and it should be a high scoring game in the last round and indeed the Final should they both make it !
Armagh defence wasn't up to scratch in some of the earlier games, but things have tightened up and the likes of James Morgan now being back is a big help. Louth got a number of fine long range points, you cannot stop those, but had trouble getting through.
You'd expect Armagh and Tipp to progress, but then I expected Armagh to have beaten Laois and Sligo.
After our performance v Longford I'm amazed we have 5 points. Total rubbish from us and Harrison was not the difference. It was pathetic listening to it on ocean fm, only for the 2 goals from Coen and the wastefulness of the Longford forwards we would have been beAten by alot more. Offaly have every chance
How is Carew still over Sligo, must be his third year there? The tactics a few years ago in Connacht final against Mayo were desperate. He should have went after that.
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 21, 2017, 11:03:47 PM
How is Carew still over Sligo, must be his third year there? The tactics a few years ago in Connacht final against Mayo were desperate. He should have went after that.
Agree. He's a joke. Our players are decent and we're able to score which is keeping us around mid table but the consistent inconsistency tells you everything. I could be here all day giving examples but I'm tired of it at this stage.
LOL at my initial predictions
Champions: Laois
Promoted: Armagh
Relegated: Antrim and Sligo
So - upon mature reflection here's the latest
Champions: Tipp
Promoted: Armagh
Relegation: Offaly and Laois
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 22, 2017, 03:47:40 PM
LOL at my initial predictions
Champions: Laois
Promoted: Armagh
Relegated: Antrim and Sligo
So - upon mature reflection here's the latest
Champions: Tipp
Promoted: Armagh
Relegation: Offaly and Laois
You'll be looking to have another stab at it next week?
He'll be needing another stab at it next week for sure!!
Anyone know if there's radio coverage of the Armagh-Antrim match?
Armagh struggling , 6-6 at Half time !
Armagh pulling away and laois winning by a bit so antrim dragged right into it now :(
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 25, 2017, 08:19:31 PM
Armagh pulling away and laois winning by a bit so antrim dragged right into it now :(
Antrim just missed a penalty to level it
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 25, 2017, 08:19:31 PM
Armagh pulling away and laois winning by a bit so antrim dragged right into it now :(
Laois done everything they could to throw it away.
Awful game in Armagh,
Both teams and the ref contrived to make the game mediocre and pedestrian.
Armagh must have hit 20 wides and needed the keeper to save a penalty to get the points
Saying that Antrim stuck to their task and flung over some great points but the majority of their scores came from frees.
A game that will not last long in the memory banks.
Armagh game was poor enough but I enjoyed it. Antrim set up very defensively and successfully frustrated Armagh all night, Armagh wasted a lot of opportunities in the first half and I felt it was gonna be one of those nights. Antrim will quite rightly feel they could've got something from the game, the missed pen near the end was the final nail in their coffin, swiftly followed by a loss of discipline as things got very nasty near the end and 4 men got the line, Sheridan for Armagh and 3 Antrim men! Vernon, McKeever & the Keeper probably the pick of Armagh team, Rowland is growing on me too.
Worrying thing about tonight was how easily Antrim frustrated Armagh, Monaghan, Tyrone & Donegal would all have a similar defensive nous, but with a lot more more serious options up front.
Ref was brutal.
A poor Armagh performance with the keeper saving the day. Armagh shooting was poor, with the exception of several great scores, two in particular from Charlie Vernon stood out. Referee was a disaster, he fuelled the heated exchanges late on resulting in the sending offs. At home to Tipperary next week, Armagh will need to improve big-time on today's performance to guarantee promotion. Armagh's inability to make in-roads in the Antrim defence doesn't bode well for meeting better opposition later on in the year.
Ref was a total bomb scare...He was actually blowing before contact was made, Gaelic Football is now a non contact sport and is pissing me off TBH. Antrim's players really lost their discipline at the end and their no9 threw and hit the Ref with the ball and then walked straight over to Armagh player in front of the ref and put his two fists into Armagh man face. Antrim no 5 played well and was a threat all evening but had a nasty streak to him with a few off the ball stuff. Armagh went 5 pts up and Ref just decided to give them everything and punish Armagh for scoring, was a poor game but it's easy to work out that Armagh can't break teams down when the opposition play defensive and pull 14 men behind the ball
Quote from: balladmaker on March 25, 2017, 11:06:33 PM
A poor Armagh performance with the keeper saving the day. Armagh shooting was poor, with the exception of several great scores, two in particular from Charlie Vernon stood out. Referee was a disaster, he fuelled the heated exchanges late on resulting in the sending offs. At home to Tipperary next week, Armagh will need to improve big-time on today's performance to guarantee promotion. Armagh's inability to make in-roads in the Antrim defence doesn't bode well for meeting better opposition later on in the year.
If we win today armagh will beat us by 20 odd points next week as we'll be taking it as a much needed week off pretty much, if we lose today itll be a winner takes all next week but again feel with it being our 4 match in 4 weeks that we mightnt quiet have the legs. Hopefully next week doesnt matter to us after today
I see that armaghgaa board has banned me for saying 'it's a load of balls'...and it wasn't even criticising an armagh player!!
Where do they get these refs? That boy refereeing the Armagh game last night was as bad as I've seen in a while.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 26, 2017, 09:17:47 AM
I see that armaghgaa board has banned me for saying 'it's a load of balls'...and it wasn't even criticising an armagh player!!
In fairness you shouldn't be making strange at a suspension from Armagh county board.!
Sligo are actually safe thankfully
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 26, 2017, 11:48:39 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 26, 2017, 09:17:47 AM
I see that armaghgaa board has banned me for saying 'it's a load of balls'...and it wasn't even criticising an armagh player!!
In fairness you shouldn't be making strange at a suspension from Armagh county board.!
Touché 😂
Shocking display again from us.
Very disappointing for the second week in a row, terrible defending, terrible passing terrible shooting - something needs to be done...
Great win for Louth
Well done Louth.
Sweet Lord. Some climax at the bottom (MATRON).
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 26, 2017, 04:50:20 PM
Well done Louth.
Sweet Lord. Some climax at the bottom (MATRON).
Incredible situation in Division 3. I haven't looked at the fixtures but is it the case that all eight have something to play for in the last games?
Quote from: Esmarelda on March 26, 2017, 04:53:05 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 26, 2017, 04:50:20 PM
Well done Louth.
Sweet Lord. Some climax at the bottom (MATRON).
Incredible situation in Division 3. I haven't looked at the fixtures but is it the case that all eight have something to play for in the last games?
Not quite - Louth are promoted so can take it handy ;) - Armagh v Tipp for promotion and all the other 5 could get relegated
Some result for Louth
I thought Tipp were bankers but just goes to show
Armagh Tipp a good test for both next week.
Looking forward to it .
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 26, 2017, 04:50:20 PM
Well done Louth.
Sweet Lord. Some climax at the bottom (MATRON).
The two biggest derbies in sport on next weekend....
Liverpool v Everton and Laois v Offaly..
There is a small chance Sligo can get relegated but it would take a miracle, we would have to lose by 15pts to louth and antrim v longford and laois v offaly both end in draws, cannot happen surely
Do a €20 double on the draws just in case, ease the pain if it came to pass.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 26, 2017, 09:17:47 AM
I see that armaghgaa board has banned me for saying 'it's a load of balls'...and it wasn't even criticising an armagh player!!
Still banned from mid June for using the F word at 3am, I prob went too far about a black card in the 1st minute of our reserve final but I would have accepted a rap on the knuckles. But to be still banned is disappointing. It was was my main source of info regarding the
gaa scene in Armagh.
PS the info in bold auto corrected to 'the gay scene' schoolboy humour was had here :)
Tipp shouldn't be depending on the last day to go up
Quote from: seafoid on March 26, 2017, 09:38:44 PM
Tipp shouldn't be depending on the last day to go up
How did Tip play today
At half time seemed to be going according to plan but they seemed well beaten in the second half.
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on March 26, 2017, 09:32:32 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 26, 2017, 09:17:47 AM
I see that armaghgaa board has banned me for saying 'it's a load of balls'...and it wasn't even criticising an armagh player!!
Still banned from mid June for using the F word at 3am, I prob went too far about a black card in the 1st minute of our reserve final but I would have accepted a rap on the knuckles. But to be still banned is disappointing. It was was my main source of info regarding the gaa scene in Armagh.
PS the info in bold auto corrected to 'the gay scene' schoolboy humour was had here :)
I was banned for saying 'it's a loada balls in my opinion '. Ridiculous levels of censorship. They can keep their forum.
Quote from: naka on March 26, 2017, 09:50:46 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 26, 2017, 09:38:44 PM
Tipp shouldn't be depending on the last day to go up
How did Tip play today
At half time seemed to be going according to plan but they seemed well beaten in the second half.
Firstly congrats to Louth.
We were terrible today as we were against Offaly and Sligo and poor against antrim too. Im giving us next to no chance up in Armagh next week, not only is our fitness way off our precision and general plays is still nowhere near where it needs to be. We didnt get back to training until after the new year this year and Kearns has always said its the cork game that will define our year. I dont agree with this, feel we need to be playing in a stronger division if we are to continue our progression but we'll just have to see whats what. (This isnt some kerry "yerra" type talk about the armagh game, honestly give us very very little hope).
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 26, 2017, 09:17:47 AM
I see that armaghgaa board has banned me for saying 'it's a load of balls'...and it wasn't even criticising an armagh player!!
They will be talking about you for posting that on here.
There was some crap posted about me and I was banned for asking a question. I think some doubt that is actually true. Maybe they should PM the moderator rather than guessing
Quote from: tippabu on March 26, 2017, 09:58:49 PM
Quote from: naka on March 26, 2017, 09:50:46 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 26, 2017, 09:38:44 PM
Tipp shouldn't be depending on the last day to go up
How did Tip play today
At half time seemed to be going according to plan but they seemed well beaten in the second half.
Firstly congrats to Louth.
We were terrible today as we were against Offaly and Sligo and poor against antrim too. Im giving us next to no chance up in Armagh next week, not only is our fitness way off our precision and general plays is still nowhere near where it needs to be. We didnt get back to training until after the new year this year and Kearns has always said its the cork game that will define our year. I dont agree with this, feel we need to be playing in a stronger division if we are to continue our progression but we'll just have to see whats what. (This isnt some kerry "yerra" type talk about the armagh game, honestly give us very very little hope).
No harm to Louth but Tipp and ourselves should each have had promotion wrapped up by now. Now it looks like a winner takes all championship match. Onwards and upwards for the winner and an ideal confidence builder for the real championship. For the loser it's real blow as each team has had issues in the league and to end on this low will turn the focus back on those issues.
Hope you enjoy the trip to Armagh but also hope it's a long road back to Tipperary
If Armagh repeat last night's showing against Tipp we'll be staying in Div 3.As it is I wouldnt be over confident about getting a result against last year's All Ireland semi finalists.
Quote from: T Fearon on March 26, 2017, 10:39:38 PM
If Armagh repeat last night's showing against Tipp we'll be staying in Div 3.As it is I wouldnt be over confident about getting a result against last year's All Ireland semi finalists.
ah here we cant both lose next week!!!
our league and championship form is chalk and cheese if last year is anything to go by and this years league taking a similar path
I'd be more confident if the match was in Tipp tbh. Armagh just don't perform in Athletic Ground's, should be interesting and a game that'll probably go to the wire. I just hope a decent ref gets the game ::)
So Tipp and Armagh were bookies favourites in post 1, one will pay out but the less favoured Louth are already there. I think Armagh can do it and sure it will be handy to play Louth again next year.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 26, 2017, 01:18:40 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 26, 2017, 11:48:39 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 26, 2017, 09:17:47 AM
I see that armaghgaa board has banned me for saying 'it's a load of balls'...and it wasn't even criticising an armagh player!!
In fairness you shouldn't be making strange at a suspension from Armagh county board.!
Touché 😂
It's quite a while since a post on this board has made me laugh ...
McGeeney is beginning to look old I thought
(http://www.irishnews.com/picturesarchive/irishnews/irishnews/2017/03/20/184411718-8ef535de-62a6-47b7-8a98-aa3057f56949.jpg)
How's Jamie playing since he came back?
I was standing just behind the photographer when he was taking this photo of the Armagh manager watching CJ McGourty line up a penalty on Saturday night that would have put Antrim a point up with a few minutes left.
Mc Geeney is saying to himself "If this goes in and we get beaten by Antrim at home I'm for the high jump".
Jamie Clarke was in Conor Hamills back pocket for 70 mins.
Armagh would need to improve for this weekend against Tipp ro have any chance. I think they possibly took Antrim for grabnted but it was a gentle reminder that Armagh are still a long way off where they need to be. It was the first tiime they really struggled for scorexzs in this years league campaign and but for a good penalty save they probably would have been beaten. You just don't know what you woill get from Armagh from one game to the next. Massive game this weekend thougfh for the long term development of this side. If McGeeney fails to get promotion this season then I find it hard to see him keeping his job next season unless they miraculously get to a provincial final or an AI q-final.
Quote from: bannside on March 27, 2017, 02:30:37 PM
I was standing just behind the photographer when he was taking this photo of the Armagh manager watching CJ McGourty line up a penalty on Saturday night that would have put Antrim a point up with a few minutes left.
Mc Geeney is saying to himself "If this goes in and we get beaten by Antrim at home I'm for the high jump".
Jamie Clarke was in Conor Hamills back pocket for 70 mins.
In fairness he had about 12 others helping him out!
Quote from: sligoman2 on March 26, 2017, 04:38:56 PM
Shocking display again from us.
Very disappointing for the second week in a row, terrible defending, terrible passing terrible shooting - something needs to be done...
It would absolutely depress you. It's that old adage about the definition of insanity - doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Trying the same guys who have continually failed is going to get us nowhere. I know we didn't have the U21's but there were good young lads on the bench who deserved a shot and didn't get it, one from my own club in particular (and it was guys from other clubs who were asking us why he wasn't getting a run).
Besides this though it is abundantly clear that there is no clear gameplan and if there is it's abandoned at the first hint of pressure. Attack wise Murphy and Hughes looked like they had the beating of their men and Coen was buzzing around off them. After Murf's goal we stopped getting good ball in quickly and allowed their double sweeper to get back (they were slow at doing this but we were laboured coming out with it). It seemed to me that Offaly had done their homework and allowed certain Sligo players (who are poor distributors) to get on the ball time and time again. So we abandoned any efforts to get the ball in quickly and by the end of the game Murphy was moved out the field - effectively we took our most dangerous attacker out of the game ourselves. Defensively there is simply no plan whatsoever bar filter as many players back as possible. There are always lots of guys back but no one seems to know what they're doing and often you have 3 or 4 guys in the middle hiding behind each other.
It's the lack of evidence of progress or development of a plan(s) that's the most disappointing. We've always had selection issues bar when Forde copped on after the Connacht final disaster of 2002 - that's unlikely to change while certain people wield as much influence as they do.
I'd be very worried about New York if they're as good as they were last year.
Quote from: bannside on March 27, 2017, 02:30:37 PM
I was standing just behind the photographer when he was taking this photo of the Armagh manager watching CJ McGourty line up a penalty on Saturday night that would have put Antrim a point up with a few minutes left.
Mc Geeney is saying to himself "If this goes in and we get beaten by Antrim at home I'm for the high jump".
Jamie Clarke was in Conor Hamills back pocket for 70 mins.
The penalty would have levelled the game on Saturday night.
Quote from: mackers on March 27, 2017, 03:24:41 PM
Quote from: bannside on March 27, 2017, 02:30:37 PM
I was standing just behind the photographer when he was taking this photo of the Armagh manager watching CJ McGourty line up a penalty on Saturday night that would have put Antrim a point up with a few minutes left.
Mc Geeney is saying to himself "If this goes in and we get beaten by Antrim at home I'm for the high jump".
Jamie Clarke was in Conor Hamills back pocket for 70 mins.
In fairness he had about 12 others helping him out!
Bollocks, anyone with that many men behind the ball can make any player look bad, in an open game is where the rubber meets the road, not a game were a creative player gets stifled.
I assume that there are no parking issues around Corrigan Park in Belfast....never been to Belfast for a match.
It will be a tense time. Makes Sky's Super Sunday look pathetic.
Quote from: yellowcard on March 27, 2017, 02:35:28 PM
Armagh would need to improve for this weekend against Tipp ro have any chance. I think they possibly took Antrim for grabnted but it was a gentle reminder that Armagh are still a long way off where they need to be. It was the first tiime they really struggled for scorexzs in this years league campaign and but for a good penalty save they probably would have been beaten. You just don't know what you woill get from Armagh from one game to the next. Massive game this weekend thougfh for the long term development of this side. If McGeeney fails to get promotion this season then I find it hard to see him keeping his job next season unless they miraculously get to a provincial final or an AI q-final.
I swear I'm not sandbagging here, look at the league, yeve hammered teams and even where ye dropped points ye were well in control in them games, we struggled past Antrim, Sligo should've beaten us by 10 points, laois we were good, longford we had the game won after 10 mins and let longford right back into it, offaly were 6 up in the 2nd half and we managed to comeback and beat us, Louth beat us handy this weekend.....its been all very unimpressive from us. 8/11 is an unbelievable price for ye at the weekend. Also this is our 4th game in 4 weeks so that's against us too. Now I hope to God ye are as bad as some of ye are making out but I doubt it and imagine I'll be quoting this on Monday saying I told you so!!
The reality is all the teams in this division have warts as well as quality and pretty much everyone can beat everyone. Home advantage, getting tactics right on a day, getting a few breaks - these are the crucial factors deciding games. Teams are inconsistent and inaccurate with their execution- were all in Div3 for a reason! From what Id have expected at the outset Armagh and Tipperary have been very disappointing, particularly Tipp. Sunday will be interesting.
Just having a look to see who's still living in the old neighbourhood.
Might be moving back soon .
Quote from: FermGael on March 28, 2017, 11:54:02 AM
Just having a look to see who's still living in the old neighbourhood.
Might be moving back soon .
Lol...crying it out. Div 2 looked a right tight div too this year, hopefully we'll be moving up but Tipp game is going to tough.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 28, 2017, 10:18:42 AM
I assume that there are no parking issues around Corrigan Park in Belfast....never been to Belfast for a match.
It will be a tense time. Makes Sky's Super Sunday look pathetic.
Should have no problem at all, park along the road outside the pitch and you'll be alright and be able to get away quick enough too.
Didn't see Sunday's game but it sounded pretty dire, never really believed we were serious challengers for promotion but to throw away two very winnable games like that, not to mention the defeat in Belfast a while back, when we'd taken 5/6 points off the three most fancied teams in the division is disappointing to say the least. And yes the same names do somehow keep cropping up, tried and failed.
Good luck going to Belfast...you might never be heard of again :P. We had to host them last week and it wasn't nice but the 2000 police on guard kept them at bay ;)
Quote from: FermGael on March 28, 2017, 11:54:02 AM
Just having a look to see who's still living in the old neighbourhood.
Might be moving back soon .
Aye. Will someone pull us up a chair to the fire, old friend returning after his travels.
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 28, 2017, 05:16:22 PM
Quote from: FermGael on March 28, 2017, 11:54:02 AM
Just having a look to see who's still living in the old neighbourhood.
Might be moving back soon .
Aye. Will someone pull us up a chair to the fire, old friend returning after his travels.
For 1 year only, if the last 10 years are anything to go by. The yo-yo of the NFL.
Quote from: shark on March 28, 2017, 05:36:52 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 28, 2017, 05:16:22 PM
Quote from: FermGael on March 28, 2017, 11:54:02 AM
Just having a look to see who's still living in the old neighbourhood.
Might be moving back soon .
Aye. Will someone pull us up a chair to the fire, old friend returning after his travels.
For 1 year only, if the last 10 years are anything to go by. The yo-yo of the NFL.
Absolutely, if we keep the strong panel we have this year you'd be hoping for another promotion. Although I seem to remember having similar thoughts early last year :-X
I have just been banned from Armagh website for apparently "Foul & Abusive language" which i'm 100% certain did not take place...the one thing i can say is i had a strange phone call yesterday at lunch time asking me to take part in a survey, the first question they asked my was how i travel to work (which is fair enough) the second question was do i have a nickname to which is said "yes" and instantly terminated the call so i'm wondering was i hacked??? I didn't give them any info regarding myself but someone was clearly at their work...
Got a ban myself for using the word fcuk in a non-abusive way, granted there is only 1 moderator (I think) to oversee everything but what's the point of the forum if you can't discuss without running the risk of getting thrown off if he feels it's not acceptable! Side note, it's annoying you can't lurk either without having to sign in, unlike here ;)
Clearly, I'm not trying hard enough on the Armagh forum.
yeah i got a strongly worded email from them one time for using the work f*ck but not directing it at anyone in particular. this is your final warning type jab...
i've very little interest in what goes on in that forum except for club results so havent been back in quite a while.
Is the moderator Dana on that blasted Armagh forum? The amount of effs I give as to who is banned on a regional forum is less than 1.
Can we discuss Super Sunday, or at least have another mass said.
Who will survive?
Who will fall?
Who will join Louth getting a new site in a better locale?
How do we welcome back Croi?
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 29, 2017, 06:31:51 PM
How do we welcome back Croi?
We don't, we are getting outta here.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 29, 2017, 06:31:51 PM
Is the moderator Dana on that blasted Armagh forum? The amount of effs I give as to who is banned on a regional forum is less than 1.
Can we discuss Super Sunday, or at least have another mass said.
Who will survive?
Who will fall?
Who will join Louth getting a new site in a better locale?
How do we welcome back Croi?
Do you not have to still be in the division to welcome someone back? 8)
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 29, 2017, 06:31:51 PM
Is the moderator Dana on that blasted Armagh forum? The amount of effs I give as to who is banned on a regional forum is less than 1.
Can we discuss Super Sunday, or at least have another mass said.
Who will survive?
Who will fall?
Who will join Louth getting a new site in a better locale?
How do we welcome back Croi?
I think Armagh will bate the unbackable Tipp
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 30, 2017, 09:23:10 AM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 29, 2017, 06:31:51 PM
Is the moderator Dana on that blasted Armagh forum? The amount of effs I give as to who is banned on a regional forum is less than 1.
Can we discuss Super Sunday, or at least have another mass said.
Who will survive?
Who will fall?
Who will join Louth getting a new site in a better locale?
How do we welcome back Croi?
Do you not have to still be in the division to welcome someone back? 8)
LOL. We could be moving onto your site soon enough for sure......feck sake >:(
Armagh Tipp is intriguing
both sides will see this as a litmus test for their development .
as an Armagh man I think we are a work in progress and if we can refine the tactics we are using we will move forward in the next 2/3 years. hopefully next year won`t see a return to the puke football of last year.
regarding the game I think we should win if we keep matters simple and move the ball forward at pace.
its disappointing that Shields, Murnin and Rafferty are still unfit and the news that Donaghy is out with a broken thumb doesn`t bode well. for me I want to see O Neill starting.
midfield will be interesting as to whom is picked but apart from that I think the team picks itself although strangely I would start Forker and see if he has learnt from his issues over the past two week. He must be busting a gut to prove the doubters and critics wrong. .
I can't decide what way this is going to go on Sunday...Tipp obviously have a bit more quality than what we have played so far but seem to be down a cylinder in comparison to last year (Injuries or peaking for summer rather than Feb/March...Dunno). It really depends on How Tipp set up to play and if they frustrate Armagh the fans don't be long in letting the team know their frustrations which plays into the hands of the opposition.
I'm not at all confident and If Donaghy is out with a broken Thumb/Finger in defence it will be a concern, Armagh certainly have the quality to win but are so unpredictable especially at home...DRAW wrote all over it and i'd take that TBH and how that will happen is Armagh winning by 3-4 pts with 10 mins to go and Tipp coming back at us with a very nervy ending...
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 30, 2017, 10:19:12 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 30, 2017, 09:23:10 AM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 29, 2017, 06:31:51 PM
Is the moderator Dana on that blasted Armagh forum? The amount of effs I give as to who is banned on a regional forum is less than 1.
Can we discuss Super Sunday, or at least have another mass said.
Who will survive?
Who will fall?
Who will join Louth getting a new site in a better locale?
How do we welcome back Croi?
Do you not have to still be in the division to welcome someone back? 8)
LOL. We could be moving onto your site soon enough for sure......feck sake >:(
Will have a concrete mix ready for the drains on Sunday. Doesn't matter if its Longford, Offaly or Laois who moves onto the site. :P
Having watched most Armagh games this year, I would back them to get the job done as they have developed as each game has progressed, although this will be there toughest match so far!
Last time out Antrim frustrated them and Armagh were extremely wasteful in attack as a result, if they can correct this I would have them winning no problem.
Forker is a great player and really needs game time for the summer, although it would be too hard replacing anyone along the half forward line or half back line, all doing rightly!
QuoteDoesn't matter if its Longford, Offaly or Laois who moves onto the site.
Don't forget Antrim is there in the mix and Sligo are not 100% safe
Quote from: illdecide on March 30, 2017, 11:28:02 AM
I can't decide what way this is going to go on Sunday...Tipp obviously have a bit more quality than what we have played so far but seem to be down a cylinder in comparison to last year (Injuries or peaking for summer rather than Feb/March...Dunno). It really depends on How Tipp set up to play and if they frustrate Armagh the fans don't be long in letting the team know their frustrations which plays into the hands of the opposition.
I'm not at all confident and If Donaghy is out with a broken Thumb/Finger in defence it will be a concern, Armagh certainly have the quality to win but are so unpredictable especially at home...DRAW wrote all over it and i'd take that TBH and how that will happen is Armagh winning by 3-4 pts with 10 mins to go and Tipp coming back at us with a very nervy ending...
We are definitely aiming to be peaking for the cork game, Kearns has been very open about that even before the league started....we aren't missing too many through injury we had near enough our full team out v Louth. We def won't frustrate ye Sunday, we play the opposite to what he faced against Antrim and it'll be a case of trying back ourselves in an open game. One thing about our team, it's still very very young
Tipp weren't that open against Laois. It was quite a defensive setup. I wouldn't be surprised if it was similar on Sunday.
Quote from: naka on March 30, 2017, 10:32:54 AM
Armagh Tipp is intriguing
both sides will see this as a litmus test for their development .
as an Armagh man I think we are a work in progress and if we can refine the tactics we are using we will move forward in the next 2/3 years. hopefully next year won`t see a return to the puke football of last year.
regarding the game I think we should win if we keep matters simple and move the ball forward at pace.
its disappointing that Shields, Murnin and Rafferty are still unfit and the news that Donaghy is out with a broken thumb doesn`t bode well. for me I want to see O Neill starting.
midfield will be interesting as to whom is picked but apart from that I think the team picks itself although strangely I would start Forker and see if he has learnt from his issues over the past two week. He must be busting a gut to prove the doubters and critics wrong. .
Donaghy has been an important part of the tightening up in defence and will be a loss. It would be great if Forker got a reputation for busting his own gut.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 30, 2017, 12:11:57 PM
QuoteDoesn't matter if its Longford, Offaly or Laois who moves onto the site.
Don't forget Antrim is there in the mix and Sligo are not 100% safe
We're about 98% safe. I think we'll lose to Louth but probably not get hammered by 15 points. If we do end up going down it will be fully deserved. After taking 3 points in our first two game against Armagh and Tipp we have only added 2 more since. With the U21's playing on Saturday we'll be short a few but with Louth already up I doubt they'll go to town on us. Hopefully!
Quote from: armaghniac on March 30, 2017, 02:15:52 PM
Quote from: naka on March 30, 2017, 10:32:54 AM
Armagh Tipp is intriguing
both sides will see this as a litmus test for their development .
as an Armagh man I think we are a work in progress and if we can refine the tactics we are using we will move forward in the next 2/3 years. hopefully next year won`t see a return to the puke football of last year.
regarding the game I think we should win if we keep matters simple and move the ball forward at pace.
its disappointing that Shields, Murnin and Rafferty are still unfit and the news that Donaghy is out with a broken thumb doesn`t bode well. for me I want to see O Neill starting.
midfield will be interesting as to whom is picked but apart from that I think the team picks itself although strangely I would start Forker and see if he has learnt from his issues over the past two week. He must be busting a gut to prove the doubters and critics wrong. .
Donaghy has been an important part of the tightening up in defence and will be a loss. It would be great if Forker got a reputation for busting his own gut.
I would say that he now has a reputation as a man who can be got at and riled
Antrim v Longford Tough one Antrim by 1 or possibly a draw
Louth v Sligo Louth by 2pts
Armagh v Tipp Draw
Offaly v Laois Laois by 2pts but hoping Offaly by 40pts
Antrim v Longford Draw
Louth v Sligo Louth by 4pts
Armagh v Tipp Armagh by 2pts
Offaly v Laois Laois by 5pts
antrim v Longford Antrim by 2
Louth v Sligo louth by 4
Armagh v Tipp Armagh by 3
Offaly V Laois Draw
Antrim v Longford Longford
Louth v Sligo Louth
Armagh v Tipp Tipp
Offaly v Laois Laois
Antrim v Longford Antrim
Louth v Sligo Sligo
Armagh v Tipp Tipp by 67 points
Laois v Offaly Laois
Antrim v Longford Longford
Louth v Sligo Louth
Armagh v Tipp Armagh
Laois v Offaly Laois
Would Tipp bring much support for an important game?
Quote from: illdecide on March 31, 2017, 11:41:09 AM
Would Tipp bring much support for an important game?
There's one bus going up.
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 31, 2017, 11:42:27 AM
Quote from: illdecide on March 31, 2017, 11:41:09 AM
Would Tipp bring much support for an important game?
There's one bus going up.
Seriously? and assuming there'll be a wad of car loads going up maybe a few hundred? Jasus that's poor, i'd have thought in an important game like that and a nice we trip to the North you'd have brought up a decent crowd.
Quote from: illdecide on March 31, 2017, 12:14:27 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 31, 2017, 11:42:27 AM
Quote from: illdecide on March 31, 2017, 11:41:09 AM
Would Tipp bring much support for an important game?
There's one bus going up.
Seriously? and assuming there'll be a wad of car loads going up maybe a few hundred? Jasus that's poor, i'd have thought in an important game like that and a nice we trip to the North you'd have brought up a decent crowd.
Hurlers play in a quarter final against Offaly as well though.
Last I heard two busses, know of a few going up the night before and will get the few driving, 100/150.....maybe up at it. Hurlers playing 1/4 final will cut down on a few. Nothing new with these numbers and won't affect the team most importantly
Couldn't miss that Offaly match - they'll be pushed all the way in that one!
In all seriousness, i'm presuming there are hurling supporters and football supporters and minimal overlap between the two groups?
There are people who attend hurling games, far more of them than attend football games. Most people would like both teams to do well, but very few will travel to football games.
Well i suppose that's the difficulty of the dual County, obviously Armagh have a Hurling team but they're a footballing County and that's why they get a good turn out from their supporters.
Quote from: naka on March 30, 2017, 03:23:25 PM
antrim v Longford Antrim by 2
Louth v Sligo louth by 4
Armagh v Tipp Armagh by 3
Offaly V Laois Draw
How the hell can we be favourites, this shower were in the AISF last year!
Tipp's form has been patchy at best. They were decent in Portlaoise, but very average to poor in the other games. Losing at home to Louth when automatic promotion was the prize is a bad indicator.
I expect Armagh to win by 6 points or more.
Quote from: stew on March 31, 2017, 03:06:20 PM
Quote from: naka on March 30, 2017, 03:23:25 PM
antrim v Longford Antrim by 2
Louth v Sligo louth by 4
Armagh v Tipp Armagh by 3
Offaly V Laois Draw
How the hell can we be favourites, this shower were in the AISF last year!
Antrim v Longford Draw
Louth v Sligo Sligo
Armagh v Tipp Tipp
Offaly V Laois Laois
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 31, 2017, 03:09:16 PM
Tipps form has been patchy at best. They were decent in Portlaoise, but very average to poor in the other games. Losing at home to Louth when Automatic Promotion was the prize is a bad indication.
I expect Armagh to win by 6 points or more.
They knew they had two bites at it, I think they will win by a point, I am well used to heartbreak with Armagh and expect nothing else come Sunday.
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 31, 2017, 03:09:16 PM
Tipp's form has been patchy at best. They were decent in Portlaoise, but very average to poor in the other games. Losing at home to Louth when automatic promotion was the prize is a bad indicator.
I expect Armagh to win by 6 points or more.
Tipp were similar last year as far as I remember. But they were well drilled for the summer
Quote from: seafoid on March 31, 2017, 04:59:21 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 31, 2017, 03:09:16 PM
Tipp's form has been patchy at best. They were decent in Portlaoise, but very average to poor in the other games. Losing at home to Louth when automatic promotion was the prize is a bad indicator.
I expect Armagh to win by 6 points or more.
Tipp were similar last year as far as I remember. But they were well drilled for the summer
Tipp had an absolute avalanche of injuries during the league last year; they have had nothing like the same number missing this time around in the league.
Quote from: illdecide on March 31, 2017, 11:41:09 AM
Would Tipp bring much support for an important game?
Tipp Supporters in Dublin taking a Bus also !
Quote from: DuffleKing on March 31, 2017, 01:41:39 PM
Couldn't miss that Offaly match - they'll be pushed all the way in that one!
In all seriousness, i'm presuming there are hurling supporters and football supporters and minimal overlap between the two groups?
Would go only for having something on Saturday night . Get to as many Tipp Football games as I can , have absolutely no interest in that Hurling rubbish !
Armagh
1 x red, 3 x yellow, 2 x black
Tipp
0 x red, 1 x yellow, 1 x black
So Louth were 16/1 back in January
Anyone know on what Tipp radio station the Armagh v Tipp game will be carried? Any help would be appreciated.
Quote from: Oraisteach on April 01, 2017, 04:46:16 PM
Anyone know on what Tipp radio station the Armagh v Tipp game will be carried? Any help would be appreciated.
It's not...updates only.
Quote from: stew on March 31, 2017, 03:06:20 PM
Quote from: naka on March 30, 2017, 03:23:25 PM
antrim v Longford Antrim by 2
Louth v Sligo louth by 4
Armagh v Tipp Armagh by 3
Offaly V Laois Draw
How the hell can we be favourites, this shower were in the AISF last year!
I think come the summer tipp will be a different beast.
They will be in the championship far longer than Armagh
Just think with home advantage Armagh will win.
Thanks, tippabu
Tipp goal in last second to win by 1
In all my years of watching gaa
The ref should be ashamed
How did he make the decisions in the last couple of minutes against Clarke
Fair play to tipp though they dug in and got the result
Laois relegated. Jaysus
Antrim down ?
Quote from: Minder on April 02, 2017, 03:50:58 PM
Antrim down ?
RTE :
Full-time: Antrim 1-13 Longford 0-16
Seven minutes into injury time and Longford equalise against Antrim and that is the point that keeps the midlanders in Division 3 and sends the Ulster side down.
Felt sick at the end of that, not one defender with the brains to jump on thon fellas back and bring him down. The free he gave against Clarke at the end was scandalous, his marker fouling Clarke all day and getting away with murder.
Best team beaten but that's of no comfort to anyone, 2 goals off 2 big hoofs into the square (great final goal), Mckeever brought into sweep looked to have sorted that problem.
Murnin my MOTM, grugan, grimley very good too. Campbell & Clarke quiet.
We've been rode by refs in this division big time. Ulster shitfest to look forward to in next year's league too. ::)
Glad i availed of the 6/4 Tipp win.At the end of the day we were a missed penalty away from a home defeat by Antrim,conceded three second half goals today in front of a partisan home crowd,lost at home to Laois and tossed away an 8 point lead in Sligo.Utter rubbish.
I aged 20 years in Corrigan Park. Some game. That said Antrim, with 2 man advantage, should have closed it out.
Sounds like a right sickener for Armagh but what a result for Tipperary. The importance of that for long term football in Tipperary cannot be overestimated.
Absolutely gutted! Referees aside we shoulf have won this division going away.
The nightmare of being an Armagh fan continues, at least i know whats coming but it is still like getting kicked in the nuts!
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 02, 2017, 04:52:33 PM
Sounds like a right sickener for Armagh but what a result for Tipperary. The importance of that for long term football in Tipperary cannot be overestimated.
A game played in good spirits today.
The problem Armagh supporters have is that it looked like others had that thougyt too.
Armagh need to watch those southern teams and learn tobe cynical
No shame in being beaten by AI semi finalists surely?
Very difficult to take that result in Armagh today. Worst thing was that it was predictable. Laois, Sligo, Galway last year. There's a theme of doing this. Plenty of lovely footballers in Armagh, many that wouldn't look out of place in Division 1, but there's also a crippling naivety and dearth of footballing intelligence that makes these circumstances almost inevitable.
The manner that we attacked that last Tipp kick out was criminally idiotic. The final play of the game with nothing short of a goal doing for them and we attack that kick out as if it was the first one of the day. No thought from the boys on the pitch, and presumably no instruction from the men on the line, that this was an exceptional situation and to make sure the the house was properly minded first and foremost. Ball breaks out the back of the midfield and the Tipp man has 40 yards of space to run into. Brainless stuff.
There's a lot of ability bubbling away in that Armagh panel, more than at any time in the last 10 years, and with a few breaks and some decent direction they could be making their way back to the business end of things. But the mentality and character that repeatedly throws up days like today needs to go.
Quote from: T Fearon on April 02, 2017, 04:41:15 PM
Glad i availed of the 6/4 Tipp win.At the end of the day we were a missed penalty away from a home defeat by Antrim,conceded three second half goals today in front of a partisan home crowd,lost at home to Laois and tossed away an 8 point lead in Sligo.Utter rubbish.
The ref decided the outcome of this match and that is not the first time. His general display was poor. That said I wouldn't disagree with your assessment Tony. Some players not up to standard. Jamie Clarke was excellent today of limited service. Murnin best player on the pitch by a street. Change of management needed, new ideas.
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 02, 2017, 04:52:33 PM
Sounds like a right sickener for Armagh but what a result for Tipperary. The importance of that for long term football in Tipperary cannot be overestimated.
Not as culturally important as Aherla making history.
Offaly must be near some of Kilkenny's records for goals conceded in a league campaign. And they still stayed up ahead of Laois.
Quote from: bennydorano on April 02, 2017, 04:25:18 PM
Felt sick at the end of that, not one defender with the brains to jump on thon fellas back and bring him down.
That was the first thing came into my head too Benny. The leading teams in the country would have pulled the Tipp ball carrier down when he was outside the 14. I think it was Murnin who was close to him and he retreated (ie defending the situation like he didn't want to give a point away). Holy Christ.
We are so naive; and it looks like it stems from the sidelines. This was also apparent against Antrim when the Antrim keeper had a massive kick out and was regularly driving it past midfield, yet we had no one standing in that position. This allowed Antrim to get back into the game.
And that free against Jamie must be one of the worst decisions of all time. Jamie out in front, man pulling the togs and jersey off Jamie, Jamie still manages to win the ball yet gets penalised for something.
We need to forget about referees. It's hard to be objective when looking at your own county but the likelihood that every ref is against us and that we have to work harder for our frees every week is remote.
We played really well in patches today. Murnin excelled but Grugan was the star. Tired a little but a big shift beforehand. Nice football when we go quick but have to stop carrying the ball forward. It kills us.
Where were the brains at the end. Players celebrating a point that changed nothing. The line and the seniors should have had the presence to get our house in order.
We seemed to let the breeze dictate our second half tactics. Right subs but each too late
Lads blaming refs is always the talk of people with small mentalities. A ref can influence a result with a last minute decision but the reality is that if you're relying on a refs decision going for/against you in the last minute to save/end your campaign then there's something not right. Armagh should have coasted the division with the talent available. Big thinking needed.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 02, 2017, 06:06:42 PM
Lads blaming refs is always the talk of people with small mentalities. A ref can influence a result with a last minute decision but the reality is that if you're relying on a refs decision going for/against you in the last minute to save/end your campaign then there's something not right. Armagh should have coasted the division with the talent available. Big thinking needed.
+1
Quote from: Sandy Hill on April 02, 2017, 08:15:48 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 02, 2017, 06:06:42 PM
Lads blaming refs is always the talk of people with small mentalities. A ref can influence a result with a last minute decision but the reality is that if you're relying on a refs decision going for/against you in the last minute to save/end your campaign then there's something not right. Armagh should have coasted the division with the talent available. Big thinking needed.
+1
Nobody is to blame but ourselves.
Now to the serious business of playing championship football. I look forward to us hammering seven shades of shite out of Down. )
Quote from: stew on April 02, 2017, 08:30:29 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on April 02, 2017, 08:15:48 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 02, 2017, 06:06:42 PM
Lads blaming refs is always the talk of people with small mentalities. A ref can influence a result with a last minute decision but the reality is that if you're relying on a refs decision going for/against you in the last minute to save/end your campaign then there's something not right. Armagh should have coasted the division with the talent available. Big thinking needed.
+1
Nobody is to blame but ourselves.
Now to the serious business of playing championship football. I look forward to us hammering seven shades of shite out of Down. )
After a wonderful league campaign we have nothing to loose!
It's lose ffs...Not loose.
Quote from: laoislad on April 02, 2017, 08:33:39 PM
It's lose ffs...Not loose.
au contraire laoislad; the Armagh defence has been far too loose for most of this league campaign
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 02, 2017, 06:06:42 PM
Lads blaming refs is always the talk of people with small mentalities. A ref can influence a result with a last minute decision but the reality is that if you're relying on a refs decision going for/against you in the last minute to save/end your campaign then there's something not right. Armagh should have coasted the division with the talent available. Big thinking needed.
Another big under achievement.
All will be forgotten with a positive championship but another whimper like last year and I cannot see how Geezer can be retained for another year.
Stew you won't beat anyone out the gate.Armagh are rubbish and crumble under pressure.Get rid of all the fancy dans and take in more Crossmaglen players who have a set of balls.
Down hammering Armagh out the gate in Newry will be a day to remember
The ref's decision to award a free to Tipp instead of a free to Jamie Clarke was as blatantly wrong a decision as I've ever seen. However, only ourselves to blame for once again throwing away a game where we were on top for most of it. Serious naivity from Armagh to allow that killer goal at the end, most other teams would have nailed the man on the ball outside the 14 and settled for the point, was obvious it was the last play of the game, and Armagh should have prevented a goal at all costs, nuts!
Only a decent run in the Championship will save Geezer at this stage. The players are there and Armagh can play some great football, but the leaky defence and lack of footballing brain in the team need to be sorted. Well done Tipp.
Quote from: Throw ball on April 02, 2017, 04:58:39 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 02, 2017, 04:52:33 PM
Sounds like a right sickener for Armagh but what a result for Tipperary. The importance of that for long term football in Tipperary cannot be overestimated.
A game played in good spirits today.
The problem Armagh supporters have is that it looked like others had that thougyt too.
Armagh need to watch those southern teams and learn tobe cynical
Rubbish. No need to be cynical. Need to be clinical.
Reacting quickly to short kick out opportunities.
Setting up for opposition kick outs instead of celebrating a meaningless score.
Looking up to see men in front of goal unopposed.
Taking clear point opportunities.
Having a dead eye free taker with either foot.
Keeping disciplined and staying out of trouble.
Having kick out strategies up and ready for first game of the season.
Having a tactic to cope with runners through the middle.
Moving the ball quicker than extra defenders can retreat.
We need to be clinical in all these respects. Failing to address these and wasting time on shyte talk like being more cynical or more like southern teams is pissing away the talent these players have. You wouldn't do that if you hated the lads so I don't see why so called fans should be at it. Lift your eyes and think
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 02, 2017, 06:06:42 PM
Lads blaming refs is always the talk of people with small mentalities. A ref can influence a result with a last minute decision but the reality is that if you're relying on a refs decision going for/against you in the last minute to save/end your campaign then there's something not right. Armagh should have coasted the division with the talent available. Big thinking needed.
Tipp were robbed of promotion 2 years ago in Armagh when the Ref play 4 minutes for injuries instead of what was shown on the board which was 2 minutes , Armagh kicked the winning score in this period . So its swings and roundabouts , goes against you one day , for you the next .
Was at the game and the scenes at the end were mental . Fair play to the Armagh support , a really friendly helpful bunch , best of luck for the rest of the year !
Just as an aside,with this promotion, it now means 4 of the 6 Munster counties will operate in the top 2 divisions in 2018. Has that ever happened before?
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 02, 2017, 10:29:21 PM
Just as an aside,with this promotion, it now means 4 of the 6 Munster counties will operate in the top 2 divisions in 2018. Has that ever happened before?
Dunno but the 3 Munster Derby games in D2 will be competitive and can only be good for the game in general in Munster .
We are now sadly and indisputably a third division team.Lucky to get out of it two years ago,not good enough for the second division last season,and not good enough to get out of division 3 this year.Thats the real tragedy.
I just wonder what the reaction to this from Armagh supporters would have been if the two Brians or Paddy O'Rourke were presiding over this.
Quote from: Horse Box on April 02, 2017, 10:12:14 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 02, 2017, 06:06:42 PM
Lads blaming refs is always the talk of people with small mentalities. A ref can influence a result with a last minute decision but the reality is that if you're relying on a refs decision going for/against you in the last minute to save/end your campaign then there's something not right. Armagh should have coasted the division with the talent available. Big thinking needed.
Tipp were robbed of promotion 2 years ago in Armagh when the Ref play 4 minutes for injuries instead of what was shown on the board which was 2 minutes , Armagh kicked the winning score in this period . So its swings and roundabouts , goes against you one day , for you the next .
Was at the game and the scenes at the end were mental . Fair play to the Armagh support , a really friendly helpful bunch , best of luck for the rest of the year !
Nice comments. Fair play to you.
Quote from: T Fearon on April 02, 2017, 10:51:24 PM
We are now sadly and indisputably a third division team.Lucky to get out of it two years ago,not good enough for the second division last season,and not good enough to get out of division 3 this year.Thats the real tragedy.
I just wonder what the reaction to this from Armagh supporters would have been if the two Brians or Paddy O'Rourke were presiding over this.
Too much talk of building, young team, missing players. Dig out your match programmes from 2009 to 2011. Consider the players and the stage in their career they were at. McGeeney has better players available to him today than O'Rourke had then. By every objective yardstick we are not realising our potential. To kick on we need to park the culture of excuses
Anyone know where I could find highlights of the Armagh - Tipp game ?
Decent win for us today in Drogheda though it admittedly wasn't a make or break game for Louth, could really have won it by more only for some poor shooting at times. There is the makings of a decent team there if the selection and tactics are right, which hasn't been the case too often but perhaps things might change, they might well have to be to escape NY intact in a few weeks time.
Quote from: smelmoth on April 02, 2017, 10:59:21 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on April 02, 2017, 10:51:24 PM
We are now sadly and indisputably a third division team.Lucky to get out of it two years ago,not good enough for the second division last season,and not good enough to get out of division 3 this year.Thats the real tragedy.
I just wonder what the reaction to this from Armagh supporters would have been if the two Brians or Paddy O'Rourke were presiding over this.
Too much talk of building, young team, missing players. Dig out your match programmes from 2009 to 2011. Consider the players and the stage in their career they were at. McGeeney has better players available to him today than O'Rourke had then. By every objective yardstick we are not realising our potential. To kick on we need to park the culture of excuses
To kick on we need someone to work on the defence
Goals scored against it too easily .
I would chase some of those hangers on standing on the line
As I said to my brother yesterday what to heck does Denis Hollywood need to run on the pitch every 30 seconds
By doing that he isn't watching the game
Against Sligo penalty in last minute
Against Antrim penalty in last couple of minutes
Against Laois a goal and a couple of points in last few minutes
Against Tipp 1-2 in last 4 minutes
Against Down in MCKenna cup a 7 point turnaround in last couple of minutes
Against Galway last year goal last kick of the game
Let's be realistic that's shocking and questions need to be asked
McGeeney reminds me of Liam Brady. An exceptional player but not a manager. Sometimes drive is not enough
Quote from: seafoid on April 03, 2017, 08:09:57 AM
McGeeney reminds me of Liam Brady. An exceptional player but not a manager. Sometimes drive is not enough
He has the best PR machine ever.
He was a good player, no more.
He has been a disastrous manager. Kildare are only just recovering now from his tenure. And we've ended up with a clown in charge because "he worked with McGeeney". Watching Armagh the first day I thought they'd blitz the division but the silly errors that enabled us steal a draw that day keep being repeated. For a manager who is supposed to be so professional in his approach it defies belief that these basic things can't seem to get sorted.
Corrigan Park very like a club ground. No stands or seats but the clubhouse overlooking the pitch was grand for my 82 year old mother to watch the game in comfort in.
We did our best to lose it. Missed goals, missed scorable frees and then, to cap it, conceded a penalty from a hail Mary high ball midway through second half. 2nd yellow for our defender and ergo down to 14. Penalty converted and our comfortable 4 pt lead was down to 1.
5 mins later it got worse when a soccer-esque sliding tackle merited a straight red and we were down to 13. Antrim tails up with the wind.
We could have gone down to 12 or even 11 when a clothes line tackle and an agricultural tackle only merited yellow. Nobody in Longford could have complained if they were red. The second tackle was where the 6 or so minutes of injury time came from as the Antrim player had a hurt shoulder or collar bone.
Antrim when one up from a free and I thought that was it. But we did a panzer like movement down the field, and Antrim panicked, conceded a free and that was the equaliser and the full time whistle blew.
Looking at the new tenants in the 2018 Div 3 and the existing ones, we will be red hot favourites to be relegated next year. I cannot see points coming from anywhere judging by what I have seen this year.
Cannot even see who we'll play at home. Westmeath, Sligo, Armagh and Offaly are away matches at least.....
Very good SS. A panzer like movement :)
QuoteCannot even see who we'll play at home. Westmeath, Sligo, Armagh and Offaly are away matches at least.....
Westmeath - we've won in de dump before, we'll win in de dump again
Sligo - Marky Park, it's a fortress ... not
Aaaaaaargh - you're kidding me
Offaly - a doss in Mullock Mór
Almost embarrassed to post here now......complete robbery yesterday. We were very poor again yesterday but quinlivan, what can you say, being double and triple marked and scores a brilliant hat trick. After the Louth game I said no chance I was travelling to Armagh, Jesus I'm glad I did now. Must say any Armagh fans was talking to before and after the game were great.
Quote from: tippabu on April 03, 2017, 10:15:33 AM
Almost embarrassed to post here now......complete robbery yesterday. We were very poor again yesterday but quinlivan, what can you say, being double and triple marked and scores a brilliant hat trick. After the Louth game I said no chance I was travelling to Armagh, Jesus I'm glad I did now. Must say any Armagh fans was talking to before and after the game were great.
Yes, we're actually quite nice to meet in person. And we'll look after your women very well too.
Jaysus it's frustrating being an armagh supporter. Another game thrown away fs. 1st half we should have went in more ahead. some poor handling mistakes at crucial moments.
If we could defend we would be a decent team. Even with 14/15 men in our own half we couldnt prevent a goal. That's criminal. Armagh are where they deserve to be unfortunately. It seems they are slow to learn their lesson.
Jesus you'd think it was the end of the world. Yes I'd prefer Armagh to be playing Division 2 next year (let's face it - not exactly full of world beaters) but the reality is a combination of factors including bad luck have left us where we are.
Fine margins saw us relegated to this division and fine margins have kept us here... but Is it McGeeney's fault grown men don't have the gumption to take a black card in the dying minutes when defending a tight lead? Is it McGeeneys fault "supporters" chastised a player to the extent he no longer wanted to play for his county? The man isn't immune from criticism - his inability to organise a sound defence is baffling given that's where he played his trade for 20 odd years. But the reality is bar CV we lack any real leadership from 1-9 and with McKeever not really able for 60 mins at I/c level and Andy Mallon seemingly not interested (?) it's hard to see who can shore up the defence.
That all said the team have shown glimpses of what they're capable of, with players to return and fitness to improve on, lessons to learn I am quite confident of beating Down in the championship who are led by what can only be described as a complete idiot. They somehow managed to hold onto their Division 2 status (no doubt will go to their heads) and will probably enter the game as warm favourites though I don't think they have the players to deal with our forward unit especially if all are fit and available.
I have said it many times that our record in AG is so poor and i can't understand it. The old AG was a real hard place for teams to come and win no matter who we played but the new AG is like an open invitation for away teams to come and take what you like...can't understand it TBH. I'd play every game away from home only for the financial repercussions.
On the game itself i can't understand how players can be so naive in the last piece of action...Feck me that Tipp player would have been decapitated anywhere else running through but our boys just let them sally on thru, Armagh were a 7-8pt better team than Tipp yesterday and came away with nothing. As someone else stated it's more or less expected now supporting Armagh and no matter how bad the beating is it just doesn't shock you as we're used to it and almost expect it...
Sure look even T Fearon had £10,000 on Tipp yesterday...fair play Tony the Bookie must hate the sight of you
Just saw this pop up on facebook...
http://www.punditarena.com/gaa/bbarry/video-tipperary-goal-armagh/
Quote from: omagh_gael on April 03, 2017, 04:12:49 PM
Just saw this pop up on facebook...
http://www.punditarena.com/gaa/bbarry/video-tipperary-goal-armagh/
Atrocious defending
Quote from: seafoid on April 03, 2017, 04:15:14 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on April 03, 2017, 04:12:49 PM
Just saw this pop up on facebook...
http://www.punditarena.com/gaa/bbarry/video-tipperary-goal-armagh/
Atrocious defending
It's actually worse than i thought at the time
frig
that's criminal
even worse than I thought
Well you can't accuse Armagh of cynical defending anyway! Alas.
Tipp really made the most of it though.
I don't want to watch that!
That's f*cking hilarious.
A general posting for those who have been banned from the Armagh forum. How do you find out why you have been banned. Due to a family wake and funeral i have not been posting on it. I went on today to see comments on yesterdays match and just get a message that my IP address is banned. Any udeas?
Down must be looking forward to getting a last minute Armagh guard of honour.
Quote from: Throw ball on April 03, 2017, 05:10:22 PM
A general posting for those who have been banned from the Armagh forum. How do you find out why you have been banned. Due to a family wake and funeral i have not been posting on it. I went on today to see comments on yesterdays match and just get a message that my IP address is banned. Any udeas?
I went on it today as well to read a few posts, my IP Address is banned too. I very rarely if ever post on it. So not sure why I got banned.
Quote from: Throw ball on April 03, 2017, 05:10:22 PM
A general posting for those who have been banned from the Armagh forum. How do you find out why you have been banned. Due to a family wake and funeral i have not been posting on it. I went on today to see comments on yesterdays match and just get a message that my IP address is banned. Any udeas?
Same as myself ThrowBall, just seen that this afternoon. It looks like an administrative error! I had a couple of posts after the game but nothing overly negative. You're a level headed poster. If they ban you then might as well close the thing down.
Quote from: omagh_gael on April 03, 2017, 04:12:49 PM
Just saw this pop up on facebook...
http://www.punditarena.com/gaa/bbarry/video-tipperary-goal-armagh/
10 Armagh players allowed themselves to be taken out of it by the kick out. When they knew all they had to do was prevent the goal. 5 lads hanging around the forward line not even interested in getting back to mind the house. Serious lack of smarts there. Embarrassing, really.
On the Armagh forum, my IP has been banned too despite not posting there for good while. Looked at it earlier today and things had taken a fairly negative turn. They must have decided to pull it for a while, maybe for good. Don't reckon it'd be much loss at this stage. Several good posters about it, but reasoned conversation had become more and more difficult to find. Too many extreme posters, either hyper critical or nauseatingly optimistic. The constant chat about soup did my head in too.
Quote from: AFS on April 03, 2017, 05:50:25 PM
On the Armagh forum, my IP has been banned too despite not posting there for good while. Looked at it earlier today and things had taken a fairly negative turn. They must have decided to pull it for a while, maybe for good. Don't reckon it'd be much loss at this stage. Several good posters about it, but reasoned conversation had become more and more difficult to find. Too many extreme posters, either hyper critical or nauseatingly optimistic. The constant chat about soup did my head in too.
I posted the above link on the Armagh forum about half an hour ago, but my IP number is now banned, so it is technical thing for whatever reason.
Banned also
Tbf I criticised game management
We didn't need a point to go 2 up
We needed to keep the ball
With 31/40 seconds left we should have kept possession.
Quote from: AFS on April 03, 2017, 05:50:25 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on April 03, 2017, 04:12:49 PM
Just saw this pop up on facebook...
http://www.punditarena.com/gaa/bbarry/video-tipperary-goal-armagh/
10 Armagh players allowed themselves to be taken out of it by the kick out. When they knew all they had to do was prevent the goal. 5 lads hanging around the forward line not even interested in getting back to mind the house. Serious lack of smarts there. Embarrassing, really.
On the Armagh forum, my IP has been banned too despite not posting there for good while. Looked at it earlier today and things had taken a fairly negative turn. They must have decided to pull it for a while, maybe for good. Don't reckon it'd be much loss at this stage. Several good posters about it, but reasoned conversation had become more and more difficult to find. Too many extreme posters, either hyper critical or nauseatingly optimistic. The constant chat about soup did my head in too.
It was fairly obvious most of the second half that Tipp were sniffing for goals. Their ability to kick points was fairly poor and they didn't seem to want to take that option. Apart from loose defending we lack cuteness/game smarts in these situations. The more experienced players in the side should be getting the message across out on the pitch but it's not happening. A more seasoned type around midfield wouldn't go amiss.
Cast your mind back 5 years.The much maligned Paddy O'Rourke oversaw a league win in Tralee,though relegation from Division 1 came after a narrow defeat against Donegal (who would become All Ireland Champions five months later)in Ballybofey.Then a commendable performance against Tyrone was followed by a narrow defeat in the qualifiers away to Roscommon (the result of a dire second half) and O'Rourke resigned (presumably before he was sacked) This looks like a golden age however compared to the present day
Thanks for response people. I enjoy the forum for the most part and it is very good at keeping you up to date on club matches etc.
Tony there are many things wrong with county team at miwasnute but we can see potential. That was not obvious under POR. If you thing Geezer us getting an easy run you have not been around the county.
Quote from: Throw ball on April 03, 2017, 07:17:06 PM
Thanks for response people. I enjoy the forum for the most part and it is very good at keeping you up to date on club matches etc.
Tony there are many things wrong with county team at miwasnute but we can see potential. That was not obvious under POR. If you thing Geezer us getting an easy run you have not been around the county.
Sounds like an admin error but I wouldn't put anything past that forum. I was at wedding a few years back that clashed with a game. Another guest was a armagh forum member and we used the forum on my phone to track updates. He warned me that the moderator was f**king with his account and true enough as soon we used his account to log in my phone or at least the webpage was haywire. In the end I had to get the work IT department to fix it. It's their phone.
Believe me there is something rotten in that forum
Quote from: T Fearon on April 03, 2017, 07:07:35 PM
Cast your mind back 5 years.The much maligned Paddy O'Rourke oversaw a league win in Tralee,though relegation from Division 1 came after a narrow defeat against Donegal (who would become All Ireland Champions five months later)in Ballybofey.Then a commendable performance against Tyrone was followed by a narrow defeat in the qualifiers away to Roscommon (the result of a dire second half) and O'Rourke resigned (presumably before he was sacked) This looks like a golden age however compared to the present day
Tony we are a seriously different outfit from then.
Properly coached we could go places.
Mc geeney genuinely is getting severe criticism in the county and he is aware of it.
Quote from: naka on April 03, 2017, 08:58:10 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on April 03, 2017, 07:07:35 PM
Cast your mind back 5 years.The much maligned Paddy O'Rourke oversaw a league win in Tralee,though relegation from Division 1 came after a narrow defeat against Donegal (who would become All Ireland Champions five months later)in Ballybofey.Then a commendable performance against Tyrone was followed by a narrow defeat in the qualifiers away to Roscommon (the result of a dire second half) and O'Rourke resigned (presumably before he was sacked) This looks like a golden age however compared to the present day
Tony we are a seriously different outfit from then.
Properly coached we could go places.
Mc geeney genuinely is getting severe criticism in the county and he is aware of it.
We should be a seriously different outfit.
Better players now than then.
It's a simple statement of fact that O'Rourke got more out of his playing resources than McGeeney is getting. And he didn't have players dropping out.
Quote from: armaghniac on April 03, 2017, 04:25:56 PM
Well you can't accuse Armagh of cynical defending anyway! Alas.
Tipp really made the most of it though.
That's clueless defending at any time but given the game conditions it was even worse.
Armagh have been great to watch this year, fantastic at times going forward, against Div 3 sides right enough, but it's much better than last year.
I genuinely think we have the makings of a very good side, I don't see the value of ditching McGeeney at the minute (& it's never gonna happen anyway folks - he got 5 years for a reason), he's got a squad of players who look like they would run through walls for him. Obviously there's work on the defensive side required, nothing wholesale unless we want to revert to an awful Tyroneesque gameplan. I'd say there's been some valuable lessons learned in that league campaign. We're a Midfielder or 2 and a CHB (young one) away from being a proper outfit anyway.
Quote from: bennydorano on April 03, 2017, 11:25:38 PM
Armagh have been great to watch this year, fantastic at times going forward, against Div 3 sides right enough, but it's much better than last year.
I genuinely think we have the makings of a very good side, I don't see the value of ditching McGeeney at the minute (& it's never gonna happen anyway folks - he got 5 years for a reason), he's got a squad of players who look like they would run through walls for him. Obviously there's work on the defensive side required, nothing wholesale unless we want to revert to an awful Tyroneesque gameplan. I'd say there's been some valuable lessons learned in that league campaign. We're a Midfielder or 2 and a CHB (young one) away from being a proper outfit anyway.
OK don't ditch Geezer, I personally have the utmost respect for him as a man and the player he was. But he needs help, there are good players there and a better organised team wouldn't have coughed up those goals.
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 04, 2017, 07:26:51 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 03, 2017, 11:25:38 PM
Armagh have been great to watch this year, fantastic at times going forward, against Div 3 sides right enough, but it's much better than last year.
I genuinely think we have the makings of a very good side, I don't see the value of ditching McGeeney at the minute (& it's never gonna happen anyway folks - he got 5 years for a reason), he's got a squad of players who look like they would run through walls for him. Obviously there's work on the defensive side required, nothing wholesale unless we want to revert to an awful Tyroneesque gameplan. I'd say there's been some valuable lessons learned in that league campaign. We're a Midfielder or 2 and a CHB (young one) away from being a proper outfit anyway.
OK don't ditch Geezer, I personally have the utmost respect for him as a man and the player he was. But he needs help, there are good players there and a better organised team wouldn't have coughed up those goals.
This isn't a slagging or anything but after the game Sunday and the warm up done all the Armagh player lined up in 2 lines and all high 5ed each other....i dunno, maybe tis all team building and moral or something but I wondered what the players thought, if it was me if be wondering what the f*ck is this shite....all of them heading off to the pub and having a big blow out would've done the world of good
Quote from: Billys Boots on April 03, 2017, 09:36:50 AM
QuoteCannot even see who we'll play at home. Westmeath, Sligo, Armagh and Offaly are away matches at least.....
Westmeath - we've won in de dump before, we'll win in de dump again
Sligo - Marky Park, it's a fortress ... not
Aaaaaaargh - you're kidding me
Offaly - a doss in Mullock Mór
Think we're due to play you in Mullingar next year Billy. Also dump is a bit strong, sure it's only one of the stands that is sinking into the ground... 8)
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on April 04, 2017, 10:16:31 AM
Quote from: Billys Boots on April 03, 2017, 09:36:50 AM
QuoteCannot even see who we'll play at home. Westmeath, Sligo, Armagh and Offaly are away matches at least.....
Westmeath - we've won in de dump before, we'll win in de dump again
Sligo - Marky Park, it's a fortress ... not
Aaaaaaargh - you're kidding me
Offaly - a doss in Mullock Mór
Think we're due to play you in Mullingar next year Billy. Also dump is a bit strong, sure it's only one of the stands that is sinking into the ground... 8)
Pull up the chair there Croí and welcome back. All to look forward to next year and, yes, we'll be playing ye in Mullingar. There is a plan now (hello 6 million euro) to do a 'Leaning Tower of Pisa' job on the stands in Pearse Park. But when that commences is anyone's guess.
Quote from: tippabu on April 04, 2017, 07:51:03 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 04, 2017, 07:26:51 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 03, 2017, 11:25:38 PM
Armagh have been great to watch this year, fantastic at times going forward, against Div 3 sides right enough, but it's much better than last year.
I genuinely think we have the makings of a very good side, I don't see the value of ditching McGeeney at the minute (& it's never gonna happen anyway folks - he got 5 years for a reason), he's got a squad of players who look like they would run through walls for him. Obviously there's work on the defensive side required, nothing wholesale unless we want to revert to an awful Tyroneesque gameplan. I'd say there's been some valuable lessons learned in that league campaign. We're a Midfielder or 2 and a CHB (young one) away from being a proper outfit anyway.
OK don't ditch Geezer, I personally have the utmost respect for him as a man and the player he was. But he needs help, there are good players there and a better organised team wouldn't have coughed up those goals.
This isn't a slagging or anything but after the game Sunday and the warm up done all the Armagh player lined up in 2 lines and all high 5ed each other....i dunno, maybe tis all team building and moral or something but I wondered what the players thought, if it was me if be wondering what the f*ck is this shite....all of them heading off to the pub and having a big blow out would've done the world of good
Maybe they did hit the pub? Would have done them the world of good if they had.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on April 04, 2017, 11:02:16 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on April 04, 2017, 10:16:31 AM
Quote from: Billys Boots on April 03, 2017, 09:36:50 AM
QuoteCannot even see who we'll play at home. Westmeath, Sligo, Armagh and Offaly are away matches at least.....
Westmeath - we've won in de dump before, we'll win in de dump again
Sligo - Marky Park, it's a fortress ... not
Aaaaaaargh - you're kidding me
Offaly - a doss in Mullock Mór
Think we're due to play you in Mullingar next year Billy. Also dump is a bit strong, sure it's only one of the stands that is sinking into the ground... 8)
Pull up the chair there Croí and welcome back. All to look forward to next year and, yes, we'll be playing ye in Mullingar. There is a plan now (hello 6 million euro) to do a 'Leaning Tower of Pisa' job on the stands in Pearse Park. But when that commences is anyone's guess.
Good to be back SS. I suppose us Midlands folks will have to be civil to each other what with all the nordies throwing their weight around. Where in the name of Christ are ye going to find 6 million?
Quote from: Armamike on April 04, 2017, 11:04:33 AM
Quote from: tippabu on April 04, 2017, 07:51:03 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 04, 2017, 07:26:51 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 03, 2017, 11:25:38 PM
Armagh have been great to watch this year, fantastic at times going forward, against Div 3 sides right enough, but it's much better than last year.
I genuinely think we have the makings of a very good side, I don't see the value of ditching McGeeney at the minute (& it's never gonna happen anyway folks - he got 5 years for a reason), he's got a squad of players who look like they would run through walls for him. Obviously there's work on the defensive side required, nothing wholesale unless we want to revert to an awful Tyroneesque gameplan. I'd say there's been some valuable lessons learned in that league campaign. We're a Midfielder or 2 and a CHB (young one) away from being a proper outfit anyway.
OK don't ditch Geezer, I personally have the utmost respect for him as a man and the player he was. But he needs help, there are good players there and a better organised team wouldn't have coughed up those goals.
This isn't a slagging or anything but after the game Sunday and the warm up done all the Armagh player lined up in 2 lines and all high 5ed each other....i dunno, maybe tis all team building and moral or something but I wondered what the players thought, if it was me if be wondering what the f*ck is this shite....all of them heading off to the pub and having a big blow out would've done the world of good
Maybe they did hit the pub? Would have done them the world of good if they had.
I hope so
Quote from: tippabu on April 04, 2017, 11:38:35 AM
Quote from: Armamike on April 04, 2017, 11:04:33 AM
Quote from: tippabu on April 04, 2017, 07:51:03 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 04, 2017, 07:26:51 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 03, 2017, 11:25:38 PM
Armagh have been great to watch this year, fantastic at times going forward, against Div 3 sides right enough, but it's much better than last year.
I genuinely think we have the makings of a very good side, I don't see the value of ditching McGeeney at the minute (& it's never gonna happen anyway folks - he got 5 years for a reason), he's got a squad of players who look like they would run through walls for him. Obviously there's work on the defensive side required, nothing wholesale unless we want to revert to an awful Tyroneesque gameplan. I'd say there's been some valuable lessons learned in that league campaign. We're a Midfielder or 2 and a CHB (young one) away from being a proper outfit anyway.
OK don't ditch Geezer, I personally have the utmost respect for him as a man and the player he was. But he needs help, there are good players there and a better organised team wouldn't have coughed up those goals.
This isn't a slagging or anything but after the game Sunday and the warm up done all the Armagh player lined up in 2 lines and all high 5ed each other....i dunno, maybe tis all team building and moral or something but I wondered what the players thought, if it was me if be wondering what the f*ck is this shite....all of them heading off to the pub and having a big blow out would've done the world of good
Maybe they did hit the pub? Would have done them the world of good if they had.
I hope so
A number of them did you will be glad to hear. Although the keeper played a match for his club.
Hope you enjoyed your trip to Armagh.
Good luck on saturday
Quote from: Throw ball on April 04, 2017, 06:31:14 PM
Quote from: tippabu on April 04, 2017, 11:38:35 AM
Quote from: Armamike on April 04, 2017, 11:04:33 AM
Quote from: tippabu on April 04, 2017, 07:51:03 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 04, 2017, 07:26:51 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 03, 2017, 11:25:38 PM
Armagh have been great to watch this year, fantastic at times going forward, against Div 3 sides right enough, but it's much better than last year.
I genuinely think we have the makings of a very good side, I don't see the value of ditching McGeeney at the minute (& it's never gonna happen anyway folks - he got 5 years for a reason), he's got a squad of players who look like they would run through walls for him. Obviously there's work on the defensive side required, nothing wholesale unless we want to revert to an awful Tyroneesque gameplan. I'd say there's been some valuable lessons learned in that league campaign. We're a Midfielder or 2 and a CHB (young one) away from being a proper outfit anyway.
OK don't ditch Geezer, I personally have the utmost respect for him as a man and the player he was. But he needs help, there are good players there and a better organised team wouldn't have coughed up those goals.
This isn't a slagging or anything but after the game Sunday and the warm up done all the Armagh player lined up in 2 lines and all high 5ed each other....i dunno, maybe tis all team building and moral or something but I wondered what the players thought, if it was me if be wondering what the f*ck is this shite....all of them heading off to the pub and having a big blow out would've done the world of good
Maybe they did hit the pub? Would have done them the world of good if they had.
I hope so
A number of them did you will be glad to hear. Although the keeper played a match for his club.
Hope you enjoyed your trip to Armagh.
Good luck on saturday
It was definitely better than our trip up 2 years ago!! We played exactly as we've played all year performance wise and there's not a person there who wouldn't agree that it was daylight robbery. Something encouraging about getting promoted without having a performance about 6 out of 10, 2 months now to get fully fit now and improve in our play for the cork match. Saturday is a bonus now, it would be great to win but no sleep will be lost if we are beat
Tipp do the 3 goal thing again in the final, to win 3-19 to 0-19. Mind you 19 points is fairly respectable also. However stopping the goals would seem to be the path to beating them.
Quote from: armaghniac on April 08, 2017, 09:02:06 PM
Tipp do the 3 goal thing again in the final, to win 3-19 to 0-19. Mind you 19 points is fairly respectable also. However stopping the goals would seem to be the path to beating them.
Correct and right. They are a goals team. They score heavily at times alright. Good spread of scorers too.
Watching Kerry the purveyors of pure football taking a black card to win the game and thinking about the naivety of Armagh last week
It simply shows why Armagh will win nothing
They don't have the Smarts to win at all costs
Quote from: naka on April 09, 2017, 07:11:15 PM
Watching Kerry the purveyors of pure football taking a black card to win the game and thinking about the naivety of Armagh last week
It simply shows why Armagh will win nothing
They don't have the Smarts to win at all costs
+1 but even they almost left it too late and too close to goal.
Imagine, an Armagh team needs to learn cynicism from Kerry.
Longford due 4 games at homes next year , will be travelling to Sligo, Armagh and Offaly. At worst 3 of Westmeath, Derry, Fermanagh and Wexford will be at home. At best all 4 . As we travelled to all the counties who were either promoted or relegated, we should be at home to those counties who came down from 2 and up from 4 . Will be confirmed around September / October
Hope Armagh have 4 away games, def play better away from home than half of them muppet's in AG who need locked up. Of course financially you need the home games for the dosh
They should play all their games away from the Athletic Grounds. Play home games in Cross. They have not been able to create a fortress AG mentality. Go back to Cross and leverage the us "agin" the world mentality.
Quote from: omochain on April 16, 2017, 05:40:50 AM
They should play all their games away from the Athletic Grounds. Play home games in Cross. They have not been able to create a fortress AG mentality. Go back to Cross and leverage the us "agin" the world mentality.
It's not the ground that is the problem, it's the mental strength for the last 10 minutes of the game that needs to be worked on. The AI winning side developed that mental strength that all winning teams will have.
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 16, 2017, 02:07:21 PM
Quote from: omochain on April 16, 2017, 05:40:50 AM
They should play all their games away from the Athletic Grounds. Play home games in Cross. They have not been able to create a fortress AG mentality. Go back to Cross and leverage the us "agin" the world mentality.
It's not the ground that is the problem, it's the mental strength for the last 10 minutes of the game that needs to be worked on. The AI winning side developed that mental strength that all winning teams will have.
How many years did it take to develop that mentality? You can't buy it