The DUP thread

[LC]

DUP party officers meeting today/tonight to discuss the current negotiations.
Are they about to go back into Stormont?

Bryson in full flow, time they ignored that bollox but the loyalist "stakeholders" and the OO will also have their say, yet they still get on their high horse over "SF/IRA"!!!
Dodds and Sammy will be trying to scupper this as well.

Donaldson could sell this as a win, but he lacks backbone and will need to read the room as patience is running out on the DUP with the NHS in freefall and the education sector looking at a swathe of redundancies if more budget isn't secured for 2024.

If DUP / Shinners et all walked back into Stormont in the morning they would not have and never will have the competency (brains) to fix things.  There is £2.5 billion carrot being dangled so why do the British Government not just give the money to the Civil Service, who are currently running the country, and let them get on with things.  When it comes to fiscal management our elected representatives are to often blinded by their political alleigances when it comes to the allocation of public money whether it be Irish Language, bonfires, housing and the slush fund of all slush funds the 'community' groups.  Putting money towards Irish Language / bonfires scores brownie points with their core vote and they would far rather do this than put their heads together to see what needs to be done to have for example prevent Causeway Hospital maternity being relocated to Antrim or ensuring Daisy Hill and SWAH are able to offer a better service than they currently are.  If they cant wrap a tricolour or union jack around it they don't give a f@@k.

What's the Irish language got to do with anything?

I think his point is that it's not one bit important in the grand scheme of things, has been a major issue that's been heavily focused on but whether it was implemented or not really doesn't positively impact the country as a whole in real terms.

Could not have put it better myself nrico.

Nothing against the Irish Language but access to a decent healthcare service will always be a greater benefit, and I would like to think more important for the majority of people, than if the local road signs are in Irish or not.

Nothing against the Irish language BUT.....

You can't pick and choose things.  Health is the most important thing imo also but it doesn't work like that.

Where do you stop?

Don't fund cricket because it not that popular.

Don't fill potholes in Fermanagh because that's where the least people in the north live.

Where do you stop and who decides?

Funny you pick out the Irish language when you could pick out a 100 other things.

The Irish language has been discriminated against for hundreds of years.  More recently by the unionist regime in the north.

The Shinners have hijacked the Irish Language and have used it as a stick to ram down the throats of unionists at every opportunity.  The IL Act was a real red line for SF a while back and M O'N was very vocal about it.......in English of course, dont recall her being interviewed on TG4 much.

[armaghniac]

The Shinners have hijacked the Irish Language and have used it as a stick to ram down the throats of unionists at every opportunity.  The IL Act was a real red line for SF a while back and M O'N was very vocal about it.......in English of course, dont recall her being interviewed on TG4 much.

All the unionists had to do was agree and there was no longer an issue.

[LC]

The Shinners have hijacked the Irish Language and have used it as a stick to ram down the throats of unionists at every opportunity.  The IL Act was a real red line for SF a while back and M O'N was very vocal about it.......in English of course, dont recall her being interviewed on TG4 much.

All the unionists had to do was agree and there was no longer an issue.

SF knew fine rightly the DUP would not agree to it however it help feeds the narrative it is all their fault and not ours as to why things don't get sorted. The Shinners are a lot of things but they are not stupid.

[armaghniac]

The Shinners have hijacked the Irish Language and have used it as a stick to ram down the throats of unionists at every opportunity.  The IL Act was a real red line for SF a while back and M O'N was very vocal about it.......in English of course, dont recall her being interviewed on TG4 much.

All the unionists had to do was agree and there was no longer an issue.

SF knew fine rightly the DUP would not agree to it however it help feeds the narrative it is all their fault and not ours as to why things don't get sorted. The Shinners are a lot of things but they are not stupid.

There are things that should be done and they should be done whatever shit the DUP want to stir. It is 25 years after the GFA, this should all have been done 20 years ago and it has nothing to do with current shortfalls in the health service.

[Nanderson]

TUV admit to being behind intimidation posters outside DUP members office's. Unionism has never been more divided

[imtommygunn]

Usually a dup stunt. Hard not to laugh.

[marty34]

DUP party officers meeting today/tonight to discuss the current negotiations.
Are they about to go back into Stormont?

Bryson in full flow, time they ignored that bollox but the loyalist "stakeholders" and the OO will also have their say, yet they still get on their high horse over "SF/IRA"!!!
Dodds and Sammy will be trying to scupper this as well.

Donaldson could sell this as a win, but he lacks backbone and will need to read the room as patience is running out on the DUP with the NHS in freefall and the education sector looking at a swathe of redundancies if more budget isn't secured for 2024.

If DUP / Shinners et all walked back into Stormont in the morning they would not have and never will have the competency (brains) to fix things.  There is £2.5 billion carrot being dangled so why do the British Government not just give the money to the Civil Service, who are currently running the country, and let them get on with things.  When it comes to fiscal management our elected representatives are to often blinded by their political alleigances when it comes to the allocation of public money whether it be Irish Language, bonfires, housing and the slush fund of all slush funds the 'community' groups.  Putting money towards Irish Language / bonfires scores brownie points with their core vote and they would far rather do this than put their heads together to see what needs to be done to have for example prevent Causeway Hospital maternity being relocated to Antrim or ensuring Daisy Hill and SWAH are able to offer a better service than they currently are.  If they cant wrap a tricolour or union jack around it they don't give a f@@k.

What's the Irish language got to do with anything?

I think his point is that it's not one bit important in the grand scheme of things, has been a major issue that's been heavily focused on but whether it was implemented or not really doesn't positively impact the country as a whole in real terms.

Could not have put it better myself nrico.

Nothing against the Irish Language but access to a decent healthcare service will always be a greater benefit, and I would like to think more important for the majority of people, than if the local road signs are in Irish or not.

Nothing against the Irish language BUT.....

You can't pick and choose things.  Health is the most important thing imo also but it doesn't work like that.

Where do you stop?

Don't fund cricket because it not that popular.

Don't fill potholes in Fermanagh because that's where the least people in the north live.

Where do you stop and who decides?

Funny you pick out the Irish language when you could pick out a 100 other things.

The Irish language has been discriminated against for hundreds of years.  More recently by the unionist regime in the north.

The Shinners have hijacked the Irish Language and have used it as a stick to ram down the throats of unionists at every opportunity.  The IL Act was a real red line for SF a while back and M O'N was very vocal about it.......in English of course, dont recall her being interviewed on TG4 much.

Are you sure you're not Jim Allister of the TUV?

For some reason you're doubling down on the Irish language (again) when I raised the point that you could bring up 100 more areas where money could be 'diverted' to the health service.

[marty34]

TUV admit to being behind intimidation posters outside DUP members office's. Unionism has never been more divided

I think the other 'loyalist stakeholders' now realise that the DUP are looking for a way to get back in again with their list of 7 unfulfilled and are turning up the heat on them. 

[Snapchap]

The Shinners have hijacked the Irish Language and have used it as a stick to ram down the throats of unionists at every opportunity.  The IL Act was a real red line for SF a while back and M O'N was very vocal about it.......in English of course, dont recall her being interviewed on TG4 much.

Is there a single argument re the Language Act that you haven't blindly taken from the TUV?? In response to the above and your previous posts on the topic:

1. A Language Act is a financial drop in the ocean. It never has been about a choice between funding the heath service and funding a Language Act. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and suggest that you are just indulging in a bit of political point scoring and that you aren't really so stupid as to actually believe it's a choice of being able to fund one or the other.

2. How have SF "hijacked" the Irish Language and "rammed it down unionists throats"? By using it?? Is it your view that the sectarian intolerance of the indigenous Language of the place where we actually live should be not only tolerated but a actively facilitated?

3. A majority of parties and a majority of MLAs were in favour of an Irish Language Act, it was not just a SF policy.

4. An Irish Language Act does not involve road signs all being translated to Irish.

5. Does Michelle O'Neill her to be a fluent Irish speaker to believe that the language needs legislative protection in the area to which it is indigenous? By that logic, should only gay people have been allowed to lobby for marriage equality?

[pbat]

TUV admit to being behind intimidation posters outside DUP members office's. Unionism has never been more divided

I think the other 'loyalist stakeholders' now realise that the DUP are looking for a way to get back in again with their list of 7 unfulfilled and are turning up the heat on them. 

Get the popcorn

[trailer]

DUP party officers meeting today/tonight to discuss the current negotiations.
Are they about to go back into Stormont?

Bryson in full flow, time they ignored that bollox but the loyalist "stakeholders" and the OO will also have their say, yet they still get on their high horse over "SF/IRA"!!!
Dodds and Sammy will be trying to scupper this as well.

Donaldson could sell this as a win, but he lacks backbone and will need to read the room as patience is running out on the DUP with the NHS in freefall and the education sector looking at a swathe of redundancies if more budget isn't secured for 2024.

If DUP / Shinners et all walked back into Stormont in the morning they would not have and never will have the competency (brains) to fix things.  There is £2.5 billion carrot being dangled so why do the British Government not just give the money to the Civil Service, who are currently running the country, and let them get on with things.  When it comes to fiscal management our elected representatives are to often blinded by their political alleigances when it comes to the allocation of public money whether it be Irish Language, bonfires, housing and the slush fund of all slush funds the 'community' groups.  Putting money towards Irish Language / bonfires scores brownie points with their core vote and they would far rather do this than put their heads together to see what needs to be done to have for example prevent Causeway Hospital maternity being relocated to Antrim or ensuring Daisy Hill and SWAH are able to offer a better service than they currently are.  If they cant wrap a tricolour or union jack around it they don't give a f@@k.

What's the Irish language got to do with anything?

I think his point is that it's not one bit important in the grand scheme of things, has been a major issue that's been heavily focused on but whether it was implemented or not really doesn't positively impact the country as a whole in real terms.

Could not have put it better myself nrico.

Nothing against the Irish Language but access to a decent healthcare service will always be a greater benefit, and I would like to think more important for the majority of people, than if the local road signs are in Irish or not.

Nothing against the Irish language BUT.....

You can't pick and choose things.  Health is the most important thing imo also but it doesn't work like that.

Where do you stop?

Don't fund cricket because it not that popular.

Don't fill potholes in Fermanagh because that's where the least people in the north live.

Where do you stop and who decides?

Funny you pick out the Irish language when you could pick out a 100 other things.

The Irish language has been discriminated against for hundreds of years.  More recently by the unionist regime in the north.

The Shinners have hijacked the Irish Language and have used it as a stick to ram down the throats of unionists at every opportunity.  The IL Act was a real red line for SF a while back and M O'N was very vocal about it.......in English of course, dont recall her being interviewed on TG4 much.

Are you sure you're not Jim Allister of the TUV?

For some reason you're doubling down on the Irish language (again) when I raised the point that you could bring up 100 more areas where money could be 'diverted' to the health service.

SF greatest achievement was forcing nurses to strike for the first time ever in Northern Ireland. Shamed them back in. The same scenes outside Hillsborough last week should do the same for the DUP.

[Applesisapples]

sinn fein and dup wiping whatsapps messages   but aye sinn fein and dup are good people.

Anyone wanna explain this "story" to Eire90?

No point, he will believe what suits.

[nrico2006]

Irish Language is dead. Complete waste of effort and resources trying to do anything about it.

[Orior]

Irish Language is dead. Complete waste of effort and resources trying to do anything about it.

That statement is complete and utter nonsense.

[manfromdelmonte]

Irish Language is dead. Complete waste of effort and resources trying to do anything about it.

Imagine if the Israelis had said that back in 1948