Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

[Eire90]

looks like the houthis are about to get bombed

[Hound]

BBC

Iran seizes oil tanker St Nikolas near Oman

"Iranian state media, quoting the navy, said the seizure was in retaliation for the ship and oil it had aboard being confiscated by the US last year. "

Recently updated the report

That's how it works as more information becomes available from reliable sources 

The BBC gets equal abuse from the far right and far left. All morons or gullible eejits who take their cues from social media.

The BBC is not perfect, and in my view at times goes too far sometimes to prove to the Tories that it is not anti- Tory,  but Jeremy Bowen is their lead reporter in Israel and Palestine and he's as good as there is. To suggest the BBC is somehow in the pocket of Israel is , as I've said, moronic. And then you'll get the real extremists quoting the grayzone, the mouthpiece of Putin and China, and it won't take any reader long to see the obscene lies it pedals about Ukraine and Taiwan.

Sky news just had on ex Tory and Labour advisors talking about the Houthi situation. The ex Labour advisor was brilliant. Said of course no problem with Britain protecting shipping lanes but compared to the tens of thousands Israel are killing it's pretty much immaterial. No reprimands to Israel, no sanctions, no nothing. Caught the presenter and the Tory on the hop and they couldn't argue with him.
Then the next guy on, a former ambassador to Saudi and Iraq, also supposed to talk about the Houthis took his cue from the Labour guy and also said it well passed time for the Brits to say enough is enough to the Israelis.

Maybe public opinion is finally getting through.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

BBC

Iran seizes oil tanker St Nikolas near Oman

"Iranian state media, quoting the navy, said the seizure was in retaliation for the ship and oil it had aboard being confiscated by the US last year. "

Recently updated the report

That's how it works as more information becomes available from reliable sources 

The BBC gets equal abuse from the far right and far left. All morons or gullible eejits who take their cues from social media.

The BBC is not perfect, and in my view at times goes too far sometimes to prove to the Tories that it is not anti- Tory,  but Jeremy Bowen is their lead reporter in Israel and Palestine and he's as good as there is. To suggest the BBC is somehow in the pocket of Israel is , as I've said, moronic. And then you'll get the real extremists quoting the grayzone, the mouthpiece of Putin and China, and it won't take any reader long to see the obscene lies it pedals about Ukraine and Taiwan.

Sky news just had on ex Tory and Labour advisors talking about the Houthi situation. The ex Labour advisor was brilliant. Said of course no problem with Britain protecting shipping lanes but compared to the tens of thousands Israel are killing it's pretty much immaterial. No reprimands to Israel, no sanctions, no nothing. Caught the presenter and the Tory on the hop and they couldn't argue with him.
Then the next guy on, a former ambassador to Saudi and Iraq, also supposed to talk about the Houthis took his cue from the Labour guy and also said it well passed time for the Brits to say enough is enough to the Israelis.

Maybe public opinion is finally getting through.

Once again labelled extremist for calling out bias in reporting. I understand I am using social media but Mona is a pultizer winner. I already discussed in this thread how language matters.

https://twitter.com/MonaChalabi/status/1740767114754232703?t=L_gIE8r6hWM3A_13srMFzg&s=19

sky news - 3 or 4 year old young lady!!

https://twitter.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1744414371348902297?t=5E1tqlxo5D_pndyuPP3Vaw&s=19


Israeli leading paper - reporting what grayzone did months ago and was based on Israeli media reporting.

https://twitter.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1745477333979467843?t=212QCggAuMriSESUJ9ZIuQ&s=19

[ThomasMullan]

BBC

Iran seizes oil tanker St Nikolas near Oman

"Iranian state media, quoting the navy, said the seizure was in retaliation for the ship and oil it had aboard being confiscated by the US last year. "

Recently updated the report

That's how it works as more information becomes available from reliable sources 

The BBC gets equal abuse from the far right and far left. All morons or gullible eejits who take their cues from social media.

The BBC is not perfect, and in my view at times goes too far sometimes to prove to the Tories that it is not anti- Tory,  but Jeremy Bowen is their lead reporter in Israel and Palestine and he's as good as there is. To suggest the BBC is somehow in the pocket of Israel is , as I've said, moronic. And then you'll get the real extremists quoting the grayzone, the mouthpiece of Putin and China, and it won't take any reader long to see the obscene lies it pedals about Ukraine and Taiwan.

Sky news just had on ex Tory and Labour advisors talking about the Houthi situation. The ex Labour advisor was brilliant. Said of course no problem with Britain protecting shipping lanes but compared to the tens of thousands Israel are killing it's pretty much immaterial. No reprimands to Israel, no sanctions, no nothing. Caught the presenter and the Tory on the hop and they couldn't argue with him.
Then the next guy on, a former ambassador to Saudi and Iraq, also supposed to talk about the Houthis took his cue from the Labour guy and also said it well passed time for the Brits to say enough is enough to the Israelis.

Maybe public opinion is finally getting through.

Well said.

The repugnant Russian propaganda outlet GrayZone waits with open arms for all the disenchanted western 'freethinkers'. Disbelieve absolutely everything on the BBC, swallow everything on GrayZone.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

The BBC has not reported as far as I can see like Israeli media has and the grayzone has how the Israelis killed both Hamas and Israelis on October 7th.

Some people like to throw about labels, and misinterpret pointing out bias and how important the use of language is in reporting as saying all reporting from a news organisation cannot be trusted or is unreliable when this isn't what is said.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

if i was a sceptic, id think the timing of the increased UK and US posturing and potential escalation  towards the Houthis is linked to South African actions.

[Milltown Row2]

if i was a sceptic, id think the timing of the increased UK and US posturing and potential escalation  towards the Houthis is linked to South African actions.

So what's the link between the South Africans and the Houthis?

[PadraicHenryPearse]

if i was a sceptic, id think the timing of the increased UK and US posturing and potential escalation  towards the Houthis is linked to South African actions.

So what's the link between the South Africans and the Houthis?

Well, it's not been mentioned too much but the South Africans have taken a case to the ICJ, a case the UK and the US are not happy about.

An escalation in military activity against the Houthis might just relegate or minimise any reporting of said case and will focus the world media instead on the Red Sea and Yemen rather than on the ICJ. 

[ThomasMullan]

The BBC has not reported as far as I can see like Israeli media has and the grayzone has how the Israelis killed both Hamas and Israelis on October 7th.

Some people like to throw about labels, and misinterpret pointing out bias and how important the use of language is in reporting as saying all reporting from a news organisation cannot be trusted or is unreliable when this isn't what is said.

GrayZone - the no 1 Russian propaganda misinformation outlet on the internet. - it all makes sense now PHP.

You wouldn't happen to follow any of these chaps would you by any chance?

Max Blumenthal
Aaron Mate
Scott Ritter (everyone's favourite disgraced paedophile weapons inspector)
George Galloway
Gonzalo Lira
Lowkey
John Moran
Caitlin Johnston
Patrick Lancaster
Michael Tracey
Medea Benjamin
Eva Bartlett
Graham Phillips
Kim DotCom
Clare Daly
Mick Wallace

Go on - be honest - how many did I get?

[Milltown Row2]

if i was a sceptic, id think the timing of the increased UK and US posturing and potential escalation  towards the Houthis is linked to South African actions.

So what's the link between the South Africans and the Houthis?

Well, it's not been mentioned too much but the South Africans have taken a case to the ICJ, a case the UK and the US are not happy about.

An escalation in military activity against the Houthis might just relegate or minimise any reporting of said case and will focus the world media instead on the Red Sea and Yemen rather than on the ICJ. 

Are you being serious? Are you a crackpot conspiracy theorist?

[PadraicHenryPearse]

this is my one time ill reenage with you but just to show once again how you are completely wrong and misinterpret everything. 

it does seem everything comes back to Russia with you, something you accuse others of regarding the US... my initial comment to you was related to exactly that.

to answer your question, lowkey is the only one I follow, I think i followed George Galloway at one stage but I must of unfollowed. I follow c400 and didn't realise Stephen Fry was one which might surprise you. I haven't  heard of half those people.

[Itchy]

The BBC has not reported as far as I can see like Israeli media has and the grayzone has how the Israelis killed both Hamas and Israelis on October 7th.

Some people like to throw about labels, and misinterpret pointing out bias and how important the use of language is in reporting as saying all reporting from a news organisation cannot be trusted or is unreliable when this isn't what is said.

GrayZone - the no 1 Russian propaganda misinformation outlet on the internet. - it all makes sense now PHP.

You wouldn't happen to follow any of these chaps would you by any chance?

Max Blumenthal
Aaron Mate
Scott Ritter (everyone's favourite disgraced paedophile weapons inspector)
George Galloway
Gonzalo Lira
Lowkey
John Moran
Caitlin Johnston
Patrick Lancaster
Michael Tracey
Medea Benjamin
Eva Bartlett
Graham Phillips
Kim DotCom
Clare Daly
Mick Wallace

Go on - be honest - how many did I get?

Strange that you have that list to hand.

What are your thoughts on the fact that Grayzone posted stories early days that people like you ridiculed because Grayzone are Russia apologists etc. But now we know much of what they said was true. Israel did kill scores of their own people on Oct 7th. Were they just lucky this time?

What about the mainstream media that many have defended who just regurgitated word for word everything Israel released which we now know was 90% lies? Is there no accountability for those media outlets. Should we declare them "us/Israel affiliated media" as I basically believe nothing at face value that they write.

[ThomasMullan]

this is my one time ill reenage with you but just to show once again how you are completely wrong and misinterpret everything. 

it does seem everything comes back to Russia with you, something you accuse others of regarding the US... my initial comment to you was related to exactly that.

to answer your question, lowkey is the only one I follow, I think i followed George Galloway at one stage but I must of unfollowed. I follow c400 and didn't realise Stephen Fry was one which might surprise you. I haven't  heard of half those people.

So you don't follow GrayZone but you know what they are reporting (as per your post above)? Did I 'misinterpret' you again?

(p.s. Max and Aaron are the chief grifters behind GrayZone)

[Itchy]

Here is Mac Blumenthal asking a question today. Do you have a problem with this question or should we just write it off as he's a Russian apologist.

https://twitter.com/TheGrayzoneNews/status/1745523401106575842?t=gB_lH9Y-gEtt3VgIXKpmiQ&s=19

The answer from the US is truly pathetic, that's where the focus should be. Not the man who asked the question

[PadraicHenryPearse]

if i was a sceptic, id think the timing of the increased UK and US posturing and potential escalation  towards the Houthis is linked to South African actions.

So what's the link between the South Africans and the Houthis?

Well, it's not been mentioned too much but the South Africans have taken a case to the ICJ, a case the UK and the US are not happy about.

An escalation in military activity against the Houthis might just relegate or minimise any reporting of said case and will focus the world media instead on the Red Sea and Yemen rather than on the ICJ. 

Are you being serious? Are you a crackpot conspiracy theorist?

I am serious (kinda), I am not a conspiracy theorist.

In a world where the President of the US can tell everyone he saw evidence of beheaded babies that doesn't exist and can arm and support the genocide of over 22k palestinans, I am open to almost anything.

I dont know if you are aware of the comment made on 9/11 by a Uk Labour aide, "a good day to bury bad news".

In summary, something to draw attention away from the ICJ would i think be in the interests of the US and UK, I don't think suggesting that is a conspiracy, infact I think TD Cathal Berry on the tonight show (who is a ****) might just said suggested similar.