Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

[Itchy]

The Democrats have a sizable pro Palestinian caucus-whereas the Republicans  wouldn't.

The Republican base and Trump supporters in particular would be very pro Israeli and wouldn't have an ounce of sympathy for the Palestinians

It could end up costing Biden the election as there are a lot of disaffected Democrats who say they will stay home over this issue.

Whether saner heads will prevail when they see the alternative (and HIS and his party's attitude towards the Palestinians if they are single issue voters) remains to be seen.

I love the way you think the alternative is worse. THEY ARE ALL THE SAME. All in the pockets of same big business and same big lobby groups. Biden v Trump doesn't make a bit of difference, a pair of horrible wankers

Itchy, that is nonsense.

If you want to make the case that Biden is in the wrong on what Israel is doing, you've plenty to support that.

But calling him (or most other politicians) the same as Trump overall is just pure clueless.

But sure go ahead and stick it on the US politics thread if you want to make that argument.

Listen we had 100 years here of people convincing themselves that FF and FG were different to each other. If you think the USA is a democracy when both candidates are owned by the same people, well good for you.

[J70]

The Democrats have a sizable pro Palestinian caucus-whereas the Republicans  wouldn't.

The Republican base and Trump supporters in particular would be very pro Israeli and wouldn't have an ounce of sympathy for the Palestinians

It could end up costing Biden the election as there are a lot of disaffected Democrats who say they will stay home over this issue.

Whether saner heads will prevail when they see the alternative (and HIS and his party's attitude towards the Palestinians if they are single issue voters) remains to be seen.

I love the way you think the alternative is worse. THEY ARE ALL THE SAME. All in the pockets of same big business and same big lobby groups. Biden v Trump doesn't make a bit of difference, a pair of horrible wankers

Itchy, that is nonsense.

If you want to make the case that Biden is in the wrong on what Israel is doing, you've plenty to support that.

But calling him (or most other politicians) the same as Trump overall is just pure clueless.

But sure go ahead and stick it on the US politics thread if you want to make that argument.

Listen we had 100 years here of people convincing themselves that FF and FG were different to each other. If you think the USA is a democracy when both candidates are owned by the same people, well good for you.

I live in the US, I follow politics closely, I see and hear Trump's corrosive policies, rhetoric and influence (which are way out of what was the political norm) daily. If you want to discuss it, bring it to the US politics thread. I don't want to derail this one.

[johnnycool]

The Democrats have a sizable pro Palestinian caucus-whereas the Republicans  wouldn't.

The Republican base and Trump supporters in particular would be very pro Israeli and wouldn't have an ounce of sympathy for the Palestinians

It could end up costing Biden the election as there are a lot of disaffected Democrats who say they will stay home over this issue.

Whether saner heads will prevail when they see the alternative (and HIS and his party's attitude towards the Palestinians if they are single issue voters) remains to be seen.

I love the way you think the alternative is worse. THEY ARE ALL THE SAME. All in the pockets of same big business and same big lobby groups. Biden v Trump doesn't make a bit of difference, a pair of horrible wankers

Itchy, that is nonsense.

If you want to make the case that Biden is in the wrong on what Israel is doing, you've plenty to support that.

But calling him (or most other politicians) the same as Trump overall is just pure clueless.

But sure go ahead and stick it on the US politics thread if you want to make that argument.

Listen we had 100 years here of people convincing themselves that FF and FG were different to each other. If you think the USA is a democracy when both candidates are owned by the same people, well good for you.

I live in the US, I follow politics closely, I see and hear Trump's corrosive policies, rhetoric and influence (which are way out of what was the political norm) daily. If you want to discuss it, bring it to the US politics thread. I don't want to derail this one.

Thousands of dead Palestinian children can't tell the difference between Trump and Biden.

[Itchy]

2.3m people displaced from their homes
Gaza flattened into rubble
23k civilians dead
9k children dead
1k children with amputations, most with no Anesthetic
Biden hugs Nethanyahu, refers to him being on his team
Biden refuses to call for a ceasefire
Biden vetos all efforts at holding Israel to account at UN

How exactly will Trump be worse? The two of them are the vilest pieces of shit I can imagine.

[whitey]

2.3m people displaced from their homes
Gaza flattened into rubble
23k civilians dead
9k children dead
1k children with amputations, most with no Anesthetic
Biden hugs Nethanyahu, refers to him being on his team
Biden refuses to call for a ceasefire
Biden vetos all efforts at holding Israel to account at UN

How exactly will Trump be worse? The two of them are the vilest pieces of shit I can imagine.

You know that Trump essentially tried to ban Muslims from entering the United States the day after he was sworn in?

If you don't think Trump would be worse for the Palestinians, all I can say is believe whatever you want

[Itchy]

2.3m people displaced from their homes
Gaza flattened into rubble
23k civilians dead
9k children dead
1k children with amputations, most with no Anesthetic
Biden hugs Nethanyahu, refers to him being on his team
Biden refuses to call for a ceasefire
Biden vetos all efforts at holding Israel to account at UN

How exactly will Trump be worse? The two of them are the vilest pieces of shit I can imagine.

You know that Trump essentially tried to ban Muslims from entering the United States the day after he was sworn in?

If you don't think Trump would be worse for the Palestinians, all I can say is believe whatever you want

Tell me what he'll do that's worse than above?
Trump's a sc**bag, so is Genocide Joe

[whitey]

2.3m people displaced from their homes
Gaza flattened into rubble
23k civilians dead
9k children dead
1k children with amputations, most with no Anesthetic
Biden hugs Nethanyahu, refers to him being on his team
Biden refuses to call for a ceasefire
Biden vetos all efforts at holding Israel to account at UN

How exactly will Trump be worse? The two of them are the vilest pieces of shit I can imagine.

You know that Trump essentially tried to ban Muslims from entering the United States the day after he was sworn in?

If you don't think Trump would be worse for the Palestinians, all I can say is believe whatever you want

Tell me what he'll do that's worse than above?
Trump's a sc**bag, so is Genocide Joe

Ehhhh..........plenty


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna120846

[Itchy]

Open your eyes lad "refugee" is code for ethnic cleansing. Nethanyahu wants the population to be "refugees" so he can plant Gaza with Jews.

Trump is actually doing the Gazans a favour here although he's so stupid he probably doesn't realise it.

[whitey]

Open your eyes lad "refugee" is code for ethnic cleansing. Nethanyahu wants the population to be "refugees" so he can plant Gaza with Jews.

Trump is actually doing the Gazans a favour here although he's so stupid he probably doesn't realise it.

So if the United States (under Trump) refused to accept "refugees" from Gaza he is doing them a favor...makes all the sense in the world, now that you've explained it

[Itchy]

I wouldn't expect it to make sense to you. It would be like Spain/Portugal agreeing to accept Native American refugees when the first settlers went to America and slaughtered them and stole their land.

[whitey]

I wouldn't expect it to make sense to you. It would be like Spain/Portugal agreeing to accept Native American refugees when the first settlers went to America and slaughtered them and stole their land.

Explain it to me in layman's terms how it is to the Palestinians benefit if Trump "enforced a ban on immigrants from certain countries, and for the first time, he included Gaza."

[Armagh18]

I wouldn't expect it to make sense to you. It would be like Spain/Portugal agreeing to accept Native American refugees when the first settlers went to America and slaughtered them and stole their land.

Explain it to me in layman's terms how it is to the Palestinians benefit if Trump "enforced a ban on immigrants from certain countries, and for the first time, he included Gaza."

Even a simpleton could see his reasoning there I'd have thought. You can agree or disagree with it but surely you can see the point he's making.

[seafoid]

Biden and Trump are both neoliberal and both Zionist. Biden is less extreme than Trump and he makes some changes but not enough.

[J70]

I wouldn't expect it to make sense to you. It would be like Spain/Portugal agreeing to accept Native American refugees when the first settlers went to America and slaughtered them and stole their land.

Explain it to me in layman's terms how it is to the Palestinians benefit if Trump "enforced a ban on immigrants from certain countries, and for the first time, he included Gaza."

Even a simpleton could see his reasoning there I'd have thought. You can agree or disagree with it but surely you can see the point he's making.

So Trump refusing to accept Gazan refugees would be a factor in Israel deciding whether or not to ethnic cleanse the Gaza Strip?

All of his other completely lopsided current and past policies and pronouncements with respect to this conflict are irrelevant? Israel wouldn't expect Trump's rubber stamp in that matter like in all others, including his ending of official US opposition to the West Bank land thefts and his moving of the embassy from Tel Aviv and official recognition of Jerusalem as the Israeli capital?

[whitey]

I wouldn't expect it to make sense to you. It would be like Spain/Portugal agreeing to accept Native American refugees when the first settlers went to America and slaughtered them and stole their land.

Explain it to me in layman's terms how it is to the Palestinians benefit if Trump "enforced a ban on immigrants from certain countries, and for the first time, he included Gaza."

Even a simpleton could see his reasoning there I'd have thought. You can agree or disagree with it but surely you can see the point he's making.

Haven't a clue what he's talking about

Makes zero sense to me

Hypothetically speaking, if 100,000 Palestinians  (women, children and the sick and elderly) were allowed to leave Gaza and given refugee status in the United States by Biden, how does Trump refusing them entry help them?