Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

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Irish-America for the most part is very pro-Israel and Jewish politicians in Democratic Party in USA have been very pro Ireland and very supportive of the Good Friday Agreement, and less friendly to DUP (not helped when Donaldson told Chuck Schumer to read a history book). Sinn Fein has close ties with Irish-America and raises lots of money there. They have even managed to have close ties with Republican/Right Wing Irish-American politicians. People like Peter King. Sure even Trump ended up at a Sinn Fein fundraiser once. In many ways it's remarkable how they do it. But abstaining is an example. They will not alienate that base. Will any of them boycott Biden on Saint Paddy's Day. That would be a No.

All well and good but they've called for the Israeli ambassador to be expelled before have they not? And not that long ago if memory serves me right...

Of course they did and Ogra Sinn Fein collected 80,000 signatures. But at the same time they are not going to meet Chuck who personally told Sinn Fein he supports a United Ireland and took the nationalist side on Brexit having expelled the ambassador. He is now the man sending all the money to Israel to defend itself and wipe out Gaza. He even said it's not enough money. But that is how SF operate. It's why they are against fox hunting in 26 and voted for it in the 6. It's why they can break the 26 rules on accepting foreign money and use the 6 county rules to amass huge amounts, much from these out of touch Irish-Americans but who are strong on Irish Unity. They are for housing but not in my neighbourhood where there's votes to be got. They can hold these contradictory positions because they are aided by the same dumb Irish electorate that has also greatly benefited FFFG for last 100 years.

SF will soon find being a protest party and a party of government are two very different things. Watch as they abandon many of their "official positions"

Yeah. They wouldn't be the first political party to ever change their tune.

They should adopt that as their party slogan. I remember, no return to the status quo and Irish Language act now. Both quickly abandoned.

[LeoMc]

Read some interesting commentary on this where someone thinks that the "western world" are maneuvering towards  blaming Netanyahu for this with the desired outcome being it is perceived Israel is not the problem at all and if he gets ousted then that will be presented as the problem having gone away.

The existence of the state of Israel is not the problem. The creation of the state created the problem but it has been accepted by the PLO, Hamas, etc.
The (majority of the) people of Israel are not the problem.

The problem is the current government of Israel and the extreme right wing Zionist settlers that prop up that government (Mafodal, Otzma even Shas) at a very bloody cost.

Most talks this century have come close to a solution, land swaps, security, some right of return, etc, but catering to those extremist settlers who would welcome the end of days has scuppered every deal.

Leaving aside Gaza, their ongoing activities in the West Bank and Netenyahus facilitation of it show clearly where the problem lays.

[seafoid]

Read some interesting commentary on this where someone thinks that the "western world" are maneuvering towards  blaming Netanyahu for this with the desired outcome being it is perceived Israel is not the problem at all and if he gets ousted then that will be presented as the problem having gone away.

The existence of the state of Israel is not the problem. The creation of the state created the problem but it has been accepted by the PLO, Hamas, etc.
The (majority of the) people of Israel are not the problem.

The problem is the current government of Israel and the extreme right wing Zionist settlers that prop up that government (Mafodal, Otzma even Shas) at a very bloody cost.

Most talks this century have come close to a solution, land swaps, security, some right of return, etc, but catering to those extremist settlers who would welcome the end of days has scuppered every deal.

Leaving aside Gaza, their ongoing activities in the West Bank and Netenyahus facilitation of it show clearly where the problem lays.

Israeli society is the problem.  GDP per head is $55,000 and $1500 in Gaza.
The Palestinians are the majority now . It's a trope about money.

[seafoid]

16 Israeli soldiers were killed in Gaza yesterday.
Israelis don't like dead soldiers

[Itchy]

Sinn Fein have now called for the Ambassador to be expelled following pressure from within the party. Better late than never.

[seafoid]

Read some interesting commentary on this where someone thinks that the "western world" are maneuvering towards  blaming Netanyahu for this with the desired outcome being it is perceived Israel is not the problem at all and if he gets ousted then that will be presented as the problem having gone away.

The existence of the state of Israel is not the problem. The creation of the state created the problem but it has been accepted by the PLO, Hamas, etc.
The (majority of the) people of Israel are not the problem.

The problem is the current government of Israel and the extreme right wing Zionist settlers that prop up that government (Mafodal, Otzma even Shas) at a very bloody cost.

Most talks this century have come close to a solution, land swaps, security, some right of return, etc, but catering to those extremist settlers who would welcome the end of days has scuppered every deal.

Leaving aside Gaza, their ongoing activities in the West Bank and Netenyahus facilitation of it show clearly where the problem lays.

It depends on how Israel is defined. The borders of Israel now include Gaza and the West Bank..

[Sportacus]

Sinn Fein have now called for the Ambassador to be expelled following pressure from within the party. Better late than never.

They say the Ambassadors role in Ireland "is now untenable". How was it tenable yesterday?

[JoG2]

Sinn Fein have now called for the Ambassador to be expelled following pressure from within the party. Better late than never.

They say the Ambassadors role in Ireland "is now untenable". How was it tenable yesterday?

Some boys are hard pleased

[Eire90]

will sinn fein be calling for the american ambassador to be expelled

[Tony Baloney]

will sinn fein be calling for the american ambassador to be expelled

Principles are easily bought and sold when you're $F.

[Armagh18]

will sinn fein be calling for the american ambassador to be expelled

If they'd any balls. And the ze German one.

[Sportacus]

Sinn Fein have now called for the Ambassador to be expelled following pressure from within the party. Better late than never.

They say the Ambassadors role in Ireland "is now untenable". How was it tenable yesterday?

Some boys are hard pleased

What changed in a day??

[ONeill]

Dungiven lad with spray paint was gonna go clean mad.

[Rossfan]

They saw all the lefties were about to outleft them?

[seafoid]

https://www.thenation.com/article/world/israel-gaza-intelligence-cyber-shield/