Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

[J70]

Lads, whine all you like about Biden and your preference for Trump. The default US position is pro-Israel - anyone who wishes to get anywhere near leadership in the country has to toe that line. Within that framework, it is only the Democratic Party which pushes back in any way against the land theft and the treatment of the Palestinians. Ironically, the majority of Jewish Americans are Democrats. It's the hardline Orthodox and Hasidic communities, with whom a lot of you lads would fine common cause on vaccines and other issues, who vote Republican, in no small part due to their views on settlements and so on.

This is very true. And same in UK. Starmer has to toe the line. You don't get elected without having the Jewish vote and the Jewish press on your side. Call it a bullshit Antisemitic trope or whatever but it is the truth.

I don't think it's that simple.

Is The NY Times "Jewish press"?

They're getting criticized for reporting "Palestinian sources" blaming Israel for the hospital bombing. They feature plenty of articles criticizing Israel, especially Netanyahu and the settlement policy.

The Jewish vote? Most of that goes to the Dems, who are less well disposed towards "Israel right or wrong " than the GOP.

[Rossfan]

Only 95% ?

[marty34]

The fact there's people on here who believe the lies of the IDF and the Israeli government is staggering.

People actually believe Islamic jihad and Hamas have bypassed Israel's siege and got their hands on hi tec weapons and then only decided to use them last night. Then the first time they use the weapon it mis fires and lands on a hospital.

Which then just happens to be the same hospital Israel bombed days earlier and had warned everyone inside to evacuate in 3 seperate warnings over the previous days.

Really?

And you believe maniacs who cut people heads off and murdered babies less than a two weeks ago

Are these the beheaded babies that Joe Biden saw and then that he didnt see. The same ones Israel said happened but then couldnt confirm they happened.

I would believe anyone ahead of lying Israels and lying America. Both have lied and lied and lied for decades about a whole manner of things, from 9/11 to Iraq to Gaza. Only the most stupid people could take anything they say at face value.

I can't believe that there's people on here who believe everything Israel and America says.

The biggest liars in the world.

And a few sneaky regarders on here for Israel and their campaign of genocide, which has went on for years.

 

[Eamonnca1]

Well today they're just going full on denial that the hospital attack happened at all. Because the building wasn't totally demolished, it's still standing, therefore there's no rubble, no bodies, just a bit of flying glass and minor injuries. Those burned out vehicles in the car park? There's no bodies in them. Didn't happen. Nothing to see here. Move along.

[Armagh18]

Lads, whine all you like about Biden and your preference for Trump. The default US position is pro-Israel - anyone who wishes to get anywhere near leadership in the country has to toe that line. Within that framework, it is only the Democratic Party which pushes back in any way against the land theft and the treatment of the Palestinians. Ironically, the majority of Jewish Americans are Democrats. It's the hardline Orthodox and Hasidic communities, with whom a lot of you lads would fine common cause on vaccines and other issues, who vote Republican, in no small part due to their views on settlements and so on.

This is very true. And same in UK. Starmer has to toe the line. You don't get elected without having the Jewish vote and the Jewish press on your side. Call it a bullshit Antisemitic trope or whatever but it is the truth.

Sure look at the assassination job they did on Corbyn.

[J70]

Only 95% ?

Poll of voters from earlier this year

https://news.gallup.com/poll/472070/democrats-sympathies-middle-east-shift-palestinians.aspx

[burdizzo]

Only 95% ?

Poll of voters from earlier this year

https://news.gallup.com/poll/472070/democrats-sympathies-middle-east-shift-palestinians.aspx

Good source.
Republicans admire strength, Democrats favour weakness!

[seafoid]

UK Labour was  captured by the Zionists in 2020 and Starmer is a whore for Zionism but there are interesting tensions developing now with ordinary Brits horrified by the savagery of the Israeli response.
Ireland was never fertile ground for Zionism. It's really interesting, the difference.

[J70]

Only 95% ?

Poll of voters from earlier this year

https://news.gallup.com/poll/472070/democrats-sympathies-middle-east-shift-palestinians.aspx

Good source.
Republicans admire strength, Democrats favour weakness!

Nah, Dems have sympathy for the less fortunate, Republicans contempt.

[weareros]

UK Labour was  captured by the Zionists in 2020 and Starmer is a whore for Zionism but there are interesting tensions developing now with ordinary Brits horrified by the savagery of the Israeli response.
Ireland was never fertile ground for Zionism. It's really interesting, the difference.

Apart from The Hill of Tara which they dug up in early 1900s searching for Noah's Ark.

[burdizzo]

Only 95% ?

Poll of voters from earlier this year

https://news.gallup.com/poll/472070/democrats-sympathies-middle-east-shift-palestinians.aspx

Good source.
Republicans admire strength, Democrats favour weakness!

Nah, Dems have sympathy for the less fortunate, Republicans contempt.

Heh. Democrats ARE the less fortunate?

[armaghniac]

I can't believe that there's people on here who believe everything Israel and America says.

I can't believe that anyone thinks that Hamas are any more reliable. You have to look at the evidence.

[Kidder81]

I can't believe that there's people on here who believe everything Israel and America says.

I can't believe that anyone thinks that Hamas are any more reliable. You have to look at the evidence.

It's insane. Few on here will be deleting posts here I would think in a few months

[J70]

Only 95% ?

Poll of voters from earlier this year

https://news.gallup.com/poll/472070/democrats-sympathies-middle-east-shift-palestinians.aspx

Good source.
Republicans admire strength, Democrats favour weakness!

Nah, Dems have sympathy for the less fortunate, Republicans contempt.

Heh. Democrats ARE the less fortunate?

Some are, some aren't.

But let's not derail this thread.

[Itchy]

I can't believe that there's people on here who believe everything Israel and America says.

I can't believe that anyone thinks that Hamas are any more reliable. You have to look at the evidence.

It's insane. Few on here will be deleting posts here I would think in a few months

Israel already been proven to be lying so if posts are to be deleted it'll be pro Israel ones