Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

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PadraicHenryPearse

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you are parroting the Israeli narrative, look at the language of your posts, the Israeli crimes are abtract and murders but the Palestinians is cold blooded and specific. This narrative permeates all your posts.

I dont know how many times I am required to condemn the loss of life, I'll go one further and say the loss of life of combatants and non combatants is truly terrible. war/conflict is a failure of diplomacy.

The responsibility for that loss of life is the occupiers who have carried out numerous and well documented atrocities way beyond what happened last weekend and its enablers who equally in other conflicts have done similar. Yet Hamas and the Palestinians are considered less then human

Sportacus

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 10, 2023, 08:07:00 PMyou are parroting the Israeli narrative, look at the language of your posts, the Israeli crimes are abtract and murders but the Palestinians is cold blood and specific. This narrative permeates all your posts.

I dont know how many times I am required to condemn the loss of life, I'll go one further and say the loss of life of combatants and non combatants is truly terrible. war/conflict is a failure of diplomacy.

The responsibility for that loss of life is the occupiers who have carried out numerous and well documented atrocities way beyond what happened last weekend and its enablers who equally in other conflicts have done similar. Yet Hamas and the Palestinians are considered less then human
I can assure you I'm thinking for myself and not parroting anybody.  Glad you condemn it.
I wouldn't agree the responsibility for the loss of life is entirely the occupiers.  No matter how many atrocities Israel is responsible for, the answer is not for Hamas to carry out atrocities.  To suggest the Hamas members who murdered civilians bear no responsibility for said deaths is nonsensical.

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: Sportacus on October 10, 2023, 08:29:20 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 10, 2023, 08:07:00 PMyou are parroting the Israeli narrative, look at the language of your posts, the Israeli crimes are abtract and murders but the Palestinians is cold blood and specific. This narrative permeates all your posts.

I dont know how many times I am required to condemn the loss of life, I'll go one further and say the loss of life of combatants and non combatants is truly terrible. war/conflict is a failure of diplomacy.

The responsibility for that loss of life is the occupiers who have carried out numerous and well documented atrocities way beyond what happened last weekend and its enablers who equally in other conflicts have done similar. Yet Hamas and the Palestinians are considered less then human
I can assure you I'm thinking for myself and not parroting anybody.  Glad you condemn it.
I wouldn't agree the responsibility for the loss of life is entirely the occupiers.  No matter how many atrocities Israel is responsible for, the answer is not for Hamas to carry out atrocities.  To suggest the Hamas members who murdered civilians bear no responsibility for said deaths is nonsensical.

you don't even know you parroting which isn't surprising even when pointed out to you.

there would be no Hamas without Israel and Israeli actions, 2.2m Palestinians wouldn't be caged and no need for resistence..

seafoid

The latest Israeli Bs is that Hamas beheaded 40 babies. Zionists put the n in cuts.


https://twitter.com/Israel/status/1711730914471092404

burdizzo


PadraicHenryPearse

There are reports that Shani Louk is alive but has a serious head injury on twitter and accompanying video by her mother.. hesitant to post this but seems a few difference sources reporting this.

Sportacus

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 10, 2023, 08:33:21 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 10, 2023, 08:29:20 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 10, 2023, 08:07:00 PMyou are parroting the Israeli narrative, look at the language of your posts, the Israeli crimes are abtract and murders but the Palestinians is cold blood and specific. This narrative permeates all your posts.

I dont know how many times I am required to condemn the loss of life, I'll go one further and say the loss of life of combatants and non combatants is truly terrible. war/conflict is a failure of diplomacy.

The responsibility for that loss of life is the occupiers who have carried out numerous and well documented atrocities way beyond what happened last weekend and its enablers who equally in other conflicts have done similar. Yet Hamas and the Palestinians are considered less then human
I can assure you I'm thinking for myself and not parroting anybody.  Glad you condemn it.
I wouldn't agree the responsibility for the loss of life is entirely the occupiers.  No matter how many atrocities Israel is responsible for, the answer is not for Hamas to carry out atrocities.  To suggest the Hamas members who murdered civilians bear no responsibility for said deaths is nonsensical.

you don't even know you parroting which isn't surprising even when pointed out to you.

there would be no Hamas without Israel and Israeli actions, 2.2m Palestinians wouldn't be caged and no need for resistence..
'Resistance' great, and totally justified.  Killing babies and unarmed civilians (from either side) unjustifiable and far beyond any talk about whose fault it is. 

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: Sportacus on October 10, 2023, 08:53:09 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 10, 2023, 08:33:21 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 10, 2023, 08:29:20 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 10, 2023, 08:07:00 PMyou are parroting the Israeli narrative, look at the language of your posts, the Israeli crimes are abtract and murders but the Palestinians is cold blood and specific. This narrative permeates all your posts.

I dont know how many times I am required to condemn the loss of life, I'll go one further and say the loss of life of combatants and non combatants is truly terrible. war/conflict is a failure of diplomacy.

The responsibility for that loss of life is the occupiers who have carried out numerous and well documented atrocities way beyond what happened last weekend and its enablers who equally in other conflicts have done similar. Yet Hamas and the Palestinians are considered less then human
I can assure you I'm thinking for myself and not parroting anybody.  Glad you condemn it.
I wouldn't agree the responsibility for the loss of life is entirely the occupiers.  No matter how many atrocities Israel is responsible for, the answer is not for Hamas to carry out atrocities.  To suggest the Hamas members who murdered civilians bear no responsibility for said deaths is nonsensical.

you don't even know you parroting which isn't surprising even when pointed out to you.

there would be no Hamas without Israel and Israeli actions, 2.2m Palestinians wouldn't be caged and no need for resistence..
'Resistance' great, and totally justified.  Killing babies and unarmed civilians (from either side) unjustifiable and far beyond any talk about whose fault it is.
Quote from: Sportacus on October 10, 2023, 08:53:09 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 10, 2023, 08:33:21 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 10, 2023, 08:29:20 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 10, 2023, 08:07:00 PMyou are parroting the Israeli narrative, look at the language of your posts, the Israeli crimes are abtract and murders but the Palestinians is cold blood and specific. This narrative permeates all your posts.

I dont know how many times I am required to condemn the loss of life, I'll go one further and say the loss of life of combatants and non combatants is truly terrible. war/conflict is a failure of diplomacy.

The responsibility for that loss of life is the occupiers who have carried out numerous and well documented atrocities way beyond what happened last weekend and its enablers who equally in other conflicts have done similar. Yet Hamas and the Palestinians are considered less then human
I can assure you I'm thinking for myself and not parroting anybody.  Glad you condemn it.
I wouldn't agree the responsibility for the loss of life is entirely the occupiers.  No matter how many atrocities Israel is responsible for, the answer is not for Hamas to carry out atrocities.  To suggest the Hamas members who murdered civilians bear no responsibility for said deaths is nonsensical.

you don't even know you parroting which isn't surprising even when pointed out to you.

there would be no Hamas without Israel and Israeli actions, 2.2m Palestinians wouldn't be caged and no need for resistence..
'Resistance' great, and totally justified.  Killing babies and unarmed civilians (from either side) unjustifiable and far beyond any talk about whose fault it is.

so it just happens in a vacuum. you don't think we/someone should try and prevent it happening again and again or is it just better when it's only Palestinians 'dying' slowing and the world can turn a blind eye.

there is occupier and occupied there is fault

Sportacus

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 10, 2023, 08:59:09 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 10, 2023, 08:53:09 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 10, 2023, 08:33:21 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 10, 2023, 08:29:20 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 10, 2023, 08:07:00 PMyou are parroting the Israeli narrative, look at the language of your posts, the Israeli crimes are abtract and murders but the Palestinians is cold blood and specific. This narrative permeates all your posts.

I dont know how many times I am required to condemn the loss of life, I'll go one further and say the loss of life of combatants and non combatants is truly terrible. war/conflict is a failure of diplomacy.

The responsibility for that loss of life is the occupiers who have carried out numerous and well documented atrocities way beyond what happened last weekend and its enablers who equally in other conflicts have done similar. Yet Hamas and the Palestinians are considered less then human
I can assure you I'm thinking for myself and not parroting anybody.  Glad you condemn it.
I wouldn't agree the responsibility for the loss of life is entirely the occupiers.  No matter how many atrocities Israel is responsible for, the answer is not for Hamas to carry out atrocities.  To suggest the Hamas members who murdered civilians bear no responsibility for said deaths is nonsensical.

you don't even know you parroting which isn't surprising even when pointed out to you.

there would be no Hamas without Israel and Israeli actions, 2.2m Palestinians wouldn't be caged and no need for resistence..
'Resistance' great, and totally justified.  Killing babies and unarmed civilians (from either side) unjustifiable and far beyond any talk about whose fault it is.
Quote from: Sportacus on October 10, 2023, 08:53:09 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 10, 2023, 08:33:21 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 10, 2023, 08:29:20 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 10, 2023, 08:07:00 PMyou are parroting the Israeli narrative, look at the language of your posts, the Israeli crimes are abtract and murders but the Palestinians is cold blood and specific. This narrative permeates all your posts.

I dont know how many times I am required to condemn the loss of life, I'll go one further and say the loss of life of combatants and non combatants is truly terrible. war/conflict is a failure of diplomacy.

The responsibility for that loss of life is the occupiers who have carried out numerous and well documented atrocities way beyond what happened last weekend and its enablers who equally in other conflicts have done similar. Yet Hamas and the Palestinians are considered less then human
I can assure you I'm thinking for myself and not parroting anybody.  Glad you condemn it.
I wouldn't agree the responsibility for the loss of life is entirely the occupiers.  No matter how many atrocities Israel is responsible for, the answer is not for Hamas to carry out atrocities.  To suggest the Hamas members who murdered civilians bear no responsibility for said deaths is nonsensical.

you don't even know you parroting which isn't surprising even when pointed out to you.

there would be no Hamas without Israel and Israeli actions, 2.2m Palestinians wouldn't be caged and no need for resistence..
'Resistance' great, and totally justified.  Killing babies and unarmed civilians (from either side) unjustifiable and far beyond any talk about whose fault it is.

so it just happens in a vacuum. you don't think we/someone should try and prevent it happening again and again or is it just better when it's only Palestinians 'dying' slowing and the world can turn a blind eye.

there is occupier and occupied there is fault
I think it's tragic beyond words and most of the world is turning a blind eye.  And now some of the big hitters will be even more pro-Israeli.  I don't know how to move it forward and that has probably got a lot harder in the last few days. But some of the things that happened were unjustifiable and so bad/bloodthirsty that context is actually irrelevant.

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: Sportacus on October 10, 2023, 09:08:02 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 10, 2023, 08:59:09 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 10, 2023, 08:53:09 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 10, 2023, 08:33:21 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 10, 2023, 08:29:20 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 10, 2023, 08:07:00 PMyou are parroting the Israeli narrative, look at the language of your posts, the Israeli crimes are abtract and murders but the Palestinians is cold blood and specific. This narrative permeates all your posts.

I dont know how many times I am required to condemn the loss of life, I'll go one further and say the loss of life of combatants and non combatants is truly terrible. war/conflict is a failure of diplomacy.

The responsibility for that loss of life is the occupiers who have carried out numerous and well documented atrocities way beyond what happened last weekend and its enablers who equally in other conflicts have done similar. Yet Hamas and the Palestinians are considered less then human
I can assure you I'm thinking for myself and not parroting anybody.  Glad you condemn it.
I wouldn't agree the responsibility for the loss of life is entirely the occupiers.  No matter how many atrocities Israel is responsible for, the answer is not for Hamas to carry out atrocities.  To suggest the Hamas members who murdered civilians bear no responsibility for said deaths is nonsensical.

you don't even know you parroting which isn't surprising even when pointed out to you.

there would be no Hamas without Israel and Israeli actions, 2.2m Palestinians wouldn't be caged and no need for resistence..
'Resistance' great, and totally justified.  Killing babies and unarmed civilians (from either side) unjustifiable and far beyond any talk about whose fault it is.
Quote from: Sportacus on October 10, 2023, 08:53:09 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 10, 2023, 08:33:21 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on October 10, 2023, 08:29:20 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 10, 2023, 08:07:00 PMyou are parroting the Israeli narrative, look at the language of your posts, the Israeli crimes are abtract and murders but the Palestinians is cold blood and specific. This narrative permeates all your posts.

I dont know how many times I am required to condemn the loss of life, I'll go one further and say the loss of life of combatants and non combatants is truly terrible. war/conflict is a failure of diplomacy.

The responsibility for that loss of life is the occupiers who have carried out numerous and well documented atrocities way beyond what happened last weekend and its enablers who equally in other conflicts have done similar. Yet Hamas and the Palestinians are considered less then human
I can assure you I'm thinking for myself and not parroting anybody.  Glad you condemn it.
I wouldn't agree the responsibility for the loss of life is entirely the occupiers.  No matter how many atrocities Israel is responsible for, the answer is not for Hamas to carry out atrocities.  To suggest the Hamas members who murdered civilians bear no responsibility for said deaths is nonsensical.

you don't even know you parroting which isn't surprising even when pointed out to you.

there would be no Hamas without Israel and Israeli actions, 2.2m Palestinians wouldn't be caged and no need for resistence..
'Resistance' great, and totally justified.  Killing babies and unarmed civilians (from either side) unjustifiable and far beyond any talk about whose fault it is.

so it just happens in a vacuum. you don't think we/someone should try and prevent it happening again and again or is it just better when it's only Palestinians 'dying' slowing and the world can turn a blind eye.

there is occupier and occupied there is fault
I think it's tragic beyond words and most of the world is turning a blind eye.  And now some of the big hitters will be even more pro-Israeli.  I don't know how to move it forward and that has probably got a lot harder in the last few days. But some of the things that happened were unjustifiable and so bad/bloodthirsty that context is actually irrelevant.

I am out after this, wasting my time with an apologist for occupiers.  unjustifiable  and bloodthirsty things have been committed by the Israelis frequently for 75+ years and they are  fully supported by US EU and UK..

seafoid

Context is never irrelevant in political disputes. 

Eamonnca1


burdizzo

Quote from: seafoid on October 10, 2023, 09:23:39 PMContext is never irrelevant in political disputes.

That is probably true. I suppose it ultimately comes down to who you feel "more like". Personally, I can't identify w/ the ISIS-like medieval barbarity imposed on people who have a more western-like life-style. I mean, I don't love the Jews, or anything, but I'd probably see more of myself in them than in the Palestinians. Irish people who want to see themselves as victims of history (although they have also reaped the spoils of same) like to identify with the Palestinians. This baffles me. Culturally they are miles away. Obviously, the Jews are far from wonderful, either, but culturally, are just a little bit closer. In the end, you believe what you like. But, having seen what ISIS did, I can certainly believe that Hamas decapitated babies and raped young ones. I suppose Israel's decapitating is a little bit more sophisticated and less primeval...

Armagh18


whitey

Quote from: Armagh18 on October 10, 2023, 09:54:20 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 10, 2023, 09:40:31 PM
Thats disgraceful. Western media is so biased it is unreal.

What he  posted is a pile of nonsense-i just went on Twitter and there's other posts from the same Twitter handle using the term "killed" for the victims in Gaza