Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

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burdizzo

Trouble is, raping and parading dead victims around in the back of trucks IS the work of backward savages. Yes, these people are the same as the "people of the middle east", but they are the same people as ISIS, also. They are not "like us" (and nor do they want to be). This left-wing obsession w/ the Palestinian cause is baffling. Just victim-worshipping: "oh, they can do what they like since they've been wronged". They certainly HAVE been wronged, there's no doubt, but decapitating and hacking the hands off young lads isn't the work of a civilised people. As I said, the Jews should just have been sent to Madagascar in the '30s, and an awful lot of trouble would have been averted.

seafoid

Quote from: burdizzo on October 10, 2023, 08:02:15 AMTrouble is, raping and parading dead victims around in the back of trucks IS the work of backward savages. Yes, these people are the same as the "people of the middle east", but they are the same people as ISIS, also. They are not "like us" (and nor do they want to be). This left-wing obsession w/ the Palestinian cause is baffling. Just victim-worshipping: "oh, they can do what they like since they've been wronged". They certainly HAVE been wronged, there's no doubt, but decapitating and hacking the hands off young lads isn't the work of a civilised people. As I said, the Jews should just have been sent to Madagascar in the '30s, and an awful lot of trouble would have been averted.
Shooting kids for sport is also despicable. It is hard to understand  a situation if you don't take everything into account. The framing of Palestinians as backward savages is Israeli and colonial.  It's what the powerful always said about northern nationalists. It's designed to deflect attention from genuine grievances.

 

trailer

Quote from: burdizzo on October 10, 2023, 08:02:15 AMTrouble is, raping and parading dead victims around in the back of trucks IS the work of backward savages. Yes, these people are the same as the "people of the middle east", but they are the same people as ISIS, also. They are not "like us" (and nor do they want to be). This left-wing obsession w/ the Palestinian cause is baffling. Just victim-worshipping: "oh, they can do what they like since they've been wronged". They certainly HAVE been wronged, there's no doubt, but decapitating and hacking the hands off young lads isn't the work of a civilised people. As I said, the Jews should just have been sent to Madagascar in the '30s, and an awful lot of trouble would have been averted.

There will be some amount of dead bodies by the time this is all over.

imtommygunn

I don't think it's ever really over though.

burdizzo

Quote from: seafoid on October 10, 2023, 08:21:02 AM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 10, 2023, 08:02:15 AMTrouble is, raping and parading dead victims around in the back of trucks IS the work of backward savages. Yes, these people are the same as the "people of the middle east", but they are the same people as ISIS, also. They are not "like us" (and nor do they want to be). This left-wing obsession w/ the Palestinian cause is baffling. Just victim-worshipping: "oh, they can do what they like since they've been wronged". They certainly HAVE been wronged, there's no doubt, but decapitating and hacking the hands off young lads isn't the work of a civilised people. As I said, the Jews should just have been sent to Madagascar in the '30s, and an awful lot of trouble would have been averted.
Shooting kids for sport is also despicable. It is hard to understand  a situation if you don't take everything into account. The framing of Palestinians as backward savages is Israeli and colonial.  It's what the powerful always said about northern nationalists. It's designed to deflect attention from genuine grievances.

 

Northern Ireland had some dark days, and there were despicable acts - not confined to the republicans, let me tell you. However, conflating Irish nationalism with the Palestinian cause is self-defeating and degrading. Why liken yourself to the losers of history?! Palestinians, as I said before, are not actually liked that much across the Arab world. Sure, they're trotted out from time to time as a grievance, but no one really cares. It was like Saddam, he tried to rally the Arab world around him by invoking the Palestinians, but there was a deafening silence. I know he was desperate, and there were other factors (as there always are), but maybe there's a reason they're not liked?

general_lee

Quote from: burdizzo on October 10, 2023, 08:02:15 AMTrouble is, raping and parading dead victims around in the back of trucks IS the work of backward savages. Yes, these people are the same as the "people of the middle east", but they are the same people as ISIS, also. They are not "like us" (and nor do they want to be). This left-wing obsession w/ the Palestinian cause is baffling. Just victim-worshipping: "oh, they can do what they like since they've been wronged". They certainly HAVE been wronged, there's no doubt, but decapitating and hacking the hands off young lads isn't the work of a civilised people. As I said, the Jews should just have been sent to Madagascar in the '30s, and an awful lot of trouble would have been averted.
The sooner right wing nutjobs learn to distinguish the difference between Hamas and Palestinian civilians, the better. 

blasmere

Quote from: burdizzo on October 10, 2023, 08:36:57 AM
Quote from: seafoid on October 10, 2023, 08:21:02 AM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 10, 2023, 08:02:15 AMTrouble is, raping and parading dead victims around in the back of trucks IS the work of backward savages. Yes, these people are the same as the "people of the middle east", but they are the same people as ISIS, also. They are not "like us" (and nor do they want to be). This left-wing obsession w/ the Palestinian cause is baffling. Just victim-worshipping: "oh, they can do what they like since they've been wronged". They certainly HAVE been wronged, there's no doubt, but decapitating and hacking the hands off young lads isn't the work of a civilised people. As I said, the Jews should just have been sent to Madagascar in the '30s, and an awful lot of trouble would have been averted.
Shooting kids for sport is also despicable. It is hard to understand  a situation if you don't take everything into account. The framing of Palestinians as backward savages is Israeli and colonial.  It's what the powerful always said about northern nationalists. It's designed to deflect attention from genuine grievances.

 

Northern Ireland had some dark days, and there were despicable acts - not confined to the republicans, let me tell you. However, conflating Irish nationalism with the Palestinian cause is self-defeating and degrading. Why liken yourself to the losers of history?! Palestinians, as I said before, are not actually liked that much across the Arab world. Sure, they're trotted out from time to time as a grievance, but no one really cares. It was like Saddam, he tried to rally the Arab world around him by invoking the Palestinians, but there was a deafening silence. I know he was desperate, and there were other factors (as there always are), but maybe there's a reason they're not liked?

So you basically see them as sub human. Says it all about you!
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Rudi

I'm on the centre right end of the spectrum, but I can tell right from wrong. All you need to do is look at goggle maps, the Palestinian people hemmed into an open jail in 2 small parcels of land, while Israelis have ample space to move freely. The Israelis regularly guilty of war crimes.
If people want to see the real face of the far right, look no further than Netanyahu & his cronies. Disgusting but not surprising he is supported by Von der Leyen & Biden. Look around us in europe, we have savages to the south & east.
Von der Leyen is our leader, the Germans, French & Dutch our overlords, the yanks our source of income via multinationals, we are somewhat complicit in this gross terrorism.
For balance Hamas are a bad shower too, shooting & capturing civilians is an act of gross barbarity, yer one captured on video, screaming for her life, is now dead. Thats painfully bad for optics & losses sympathy, even if the state of Israel are the real aggressors here.
One could argue that Israelis voted in this Netanyahu regime (although only marginally), I still struggle with death of innocents. The international community need to intervene, but thats not going to happen, what choice do the people of Palestine have? This is as ugly as it gets.
As Irish people we should not stand with the Israelis we need to be decent & some how support the impoverished from Palestine.

Armagh18

Quote from: Rudi on October 10, 2023, 08:45:10 AMI'm on the centre right end of the spectrum, but I can tell right from wrong. All you need to do is look at goggle maps, the Palestinian people hemmed into an open jail in 2 small parcels of land, while Israelis have ample space to move freely. The Israelis regularly guilty of war crimes.
If people want to see the real face of the far right, look no further than Netanyahu & his cronies. Disgusting but not surprising he is supported by Von der Leyen & Biden. Look around us in europe, we have savages to the south & east.
Von der Leyen is our leader, the Germans, French & Dutch our overlords, the yanks our source of income via multinationals, we are somewhat complicit in this gross terrorism.
For balance Hamas are a bad shower too, shooting & capturing civilians is an act of gross barbarity, yer one captured on video, screaming for her life, is now dead. Thats painfully bad for optics & losses sympathy, even if the state of Israel are the real aggressors here.
One could argue that Israelis voted in this Netanyahu regime (although only marginally), I still struggle with death of innocents. The international community need to intervene, but thats not going to happen, what choice do the people of Palestine have? This is as ugly as it gets.
As Irish people we should not stand with the Israelis we need to be decent & some how support the impoverished from Palestine.
Yup.

Itchy

Quote from: burdizzo on October 10, 2023, 08:36:57 AM
Quote from: seafoid on October 10, 2023, 08:21:02 AM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 10, 2023, 08:02:15 AMTrouble is, raping and parading dead victims around in the back of trucks IS the work of backward savages. Yes, these people are the same as the "people of the middle east", but they are the same people as ISIS, also. They are not "like us" (and nor do they want to be). This left-wing obsession w/ the Palestinian cause is baffling. Just victim-worshipping: "oh, they can do what they like since they've been wronged". They certainly HAVE been wronged, there's no doubt, but decapitating and hacking the hands off young lads isn't the work of a civilised people. As I said, the Jews should just have been sent to Madagascar in the '30s, and an awful lot of trouble would have been averted.
Shooting kids for sport is also despicable. It is hard to understand  a situation if you don't take everything into account. The framing of Palestinians as backward savages is Israeli and colonial.  It's what the powerful always said about northern nationalists. It's designed to deflect attention from genuine grievances.

 

Northern Ireland had some dark days, and there were despicable acts - not confined to the republicans, let me tell you. However, conflating Irish nationalism with the Palestinian cause is self-defeating and degrading. Why liken yourself to the losers of history?! Palestinians, as I said before, are not actually liked that much across the Arab world. Sure, they're trotted out from time to time as a grievance, but no one really cares. It was like Saddam, he tried to rally the Arab world around him by invoking the Palestinians, but there was a deafening silence. I know he was desperate, and there were other factors (as there always are), but maybe there's a reason they're not liked?

Burdizzo, as well as being a horrible right wing racist it appears will now lecture us on the conflict in the North, all the way from battle hardened Laois no less. As well as being an expert on skin colour and the history of the troubles he has also carried out extensive surveys where he has determined that the Palestinians are "losers" and "are not liked" by the majority of Arabs. We can only imagine this work took him decades to complete given the sheer volume of Arabs in the world. I would also like to congratulate him in putting his hatred of their skin colour aside so he could carry out this great work.

burdizzo

Ha ha! Good ole Itchy, with his astute observations (ahem!), meaningless moralising, and baseless conjecture! What a contributor!

Franko

Quote from: burdizzo on October 10, 2023, 08:36:57 AM
Quote from: seafoid on October 10, 2023, 08:21:02 AM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 10, 2023, 08:02:15 AMTrouble is, raping and parading dead victims around in the back of trucks IS the work of backward savages. Yes, these people are the same as the "people of the middle east", but they are the same people as ISIS, also. They are not "like us" (and nor do they want to be). This left-wing obsession w/ the Palestinian cause is baffling. Just victim-worshipping: "oh, they can do what they like since they've been wronged". They certainly HAVE been wronged, there's no doubt, but decapitating and hacking the hands off young lads isn't the work of a civilised people. As I said, the Jews should just have been sent to Madagascar in the '30s, and an awful lot of trouble would have been averted.
Shooting kids for sport is also despicable. It is hard to understand  a situation if you don't take everything into account. The framing of Palestinians as backward savages is Israeli and colonial.  It's what the powerful always said about northern nationalists. It's designed to deflect attention from genuine grievances.

 

Northern Ireland had some dark days, and there were despicable acts - not confined to the republicans, let me tell you. However, conflating Irish nationalism with the Palestinian cause is self-defeating and degrading. Why liken yourself to the losers of history?! Palestinians, as I said before, are not actually liked that much across the Arab world. Sure, they're trotted out from time to time as a grievance, but no one really cares. It was like Saddam, he tried to rally the Arab world around him by invoking the Palestinians, but there was a deafening silence. I know he was desperate, and there were other factors (as there always are), but maybe there's a reason they're not liked?

;D

He says it like it's new information

seafoid

Quote from: burdizzo on October 10, 2023, 08:36:57 AM
Quote from: seafoid on October 10, 2023, 08:21:02 AM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 10, 2023, 08:02:15 AMTrouble is, raping and parading dead victims around in the back of trucks IS the work of backward savages. Yes, these people are the same as the "people of the middle east", but they are the same people as ISIS, also. They are not "like us" (and nor do they want to be). This left-wing obsession w/ the Palestinian cause is baffling. Just victim-worshipping: "oh, they can do what they like since they've been wronged". They certainly HAVE been wronged, there's no doubt, but decapitating and hacking the hands off young lads isn't the work of a civilised people. As I said, the Jews should just have been sent to Madagascar in the '30s, and an awful lot of trouble would have been averted.
Shooting kids for sport is also despicable. It is hard to understand  a situation if you don't take everything into account. The framing of Palestinians as backward savages is Israeli and colonial.  It's what the powerful always said about northern nationalists. It's designed to deflect attention from genuine grievances.

 

Northern Ireland had some dark days, and there were despicable acts - not confined to the republicans, let me tell you. However, conflating Irish nationalism with the Palestinian cause is self-defeating and degrading. Why liken yourself to the losers of history?! Palestinians, as I said before, are not actually liked that much across the Arab world. Sure, they're trotted out from time to time as a grievance, but no one really cares. It was like Saddam, he tried to rally the Arab world around him by invoking the Palestinians, but there was a deafening silence. I know he was desperate, and there were other factors (as there always are), but maybe there's a reason they're not liked?
Power is not about being liked. The Iranians don't have to like the Palestinians to work with them. It's not a reality TV show. People all over the region have great sympathy for them

Yemenis https://twitter.com/Kuffiyateam/status/1710700102967296419

seafoid

Quote from: Armagh18 on October 10, 2023, 05:47:10 AMHow did Israel with their state of the art military not see this coming? Or did they need an excuse to justify totally wiping out the Palestinians?
Netanyahu convinced Israelis that they could have a technological solution to the Israeli Palestinian conflict and that Israel would be guaranteed security. So they invested in walls and fences and remote machine guns based in observation towers. Because he promised them security they could have parties close to the Gaza border. Then Hamas fooled them by pretending it wasn't interested in fighting. the first thing Hamas did was disable the observation towers.

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Itchy

Quote from: Franko on October 10, 2023, 09:26:20 AM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 10, 2023, 08:36:57 AM
Quote from: seafoid on October 10, 2023, 08:21:02 AM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 10, 2023, 08:02:15 AMTrouble is, raping and parading dead victims around in the back of trucks IS the work of backward savages. Yes, these people are the same as the "people of the middle east", but they are the same people as ISIS, also. They are not "like us" (and nor do they want to be). This left-wing obsession w/ the Palestinian cause is baffling. Just victim-worshipping: "oh, they can do what they like since they've been wronged". They certainly HAVE been wronged, there's no doubt, but decapitating and hacking the hands off young lads isn't the work of a civilised people. As I said, the Jews should just have been sent to Madagascar in the '30s, and an awful lot of trouble would have been averted.
Shooting kids for sport is also despicable. It is hard to understand  a situation if you don't take everything into account. The framing of Palestinians as backward savages is Israeli and colonial.  It's what the powerful always said about northern nationalists. It's designed to deflect attention from genuine grievances.

 

Northern Ireland had some dark days, and there were despicable acts - not confined to the republicans, let me tell you. However, conflating Irish nationalism with the Palestinian cause is self-defeating and degrading. Why liken yourself to the losers of history?! Palestinians, as I said before, are not actually liked that much across the Arab world. Sure, they're trotted out from time to time as a grievance, but no one really cares. It was like Saddam, he tried to rally the Arab world around him by invoking the Palestinians, but there was a deafening silence. I know he was desperate, and there were other factors (as there always are), but maybe there's a reason they're not liked?

;D

He says it like it's new information

Its a shit hot take from the smartest guy in the Irish Freedom Party