Niall Ewing Interview "This is not what I signed up for"

Started by Kuwabatake Sanjuro, July 14, 2018, 10:45:26 PM

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Dinny Breen

Quote from: Rossfan on July 19, 2018, 04:56:42 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 19, 2018, 04:42:31 PM
Have standards in Antrim improved?
Let's have Cavan v Galway next year.
That should improve the Cavan lads.

You said it improved standards, has Antrim improved?
#newbridgeornowhere

Rossfan

It wasn't me said it improved standards.
Antrim's standards falling for a while now. Weren't they in the Leinster Championship a few years ago.
I'd imagine they have a fair few more hurlers than Carlow or Westmeath so why were they not in the tier 2 Final?
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Franko

Quote from: Syferus on July 19, 2018, 04:46:26 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 19, 2018, 04:38:53 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 19, 2018, 03:34:44 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 19, 2018, 03:05:47 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 19, 2018, 12:56:00 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 15, 2018, 09:47:43 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 15, 2018, 09:37:57 AM
2015 Nicky Rackard Cup Final.
Totally irrelevant question.

And was it shown live this year on National TV?

The only irrelevancy is tiered completions, Tommy Murphy, Christy Ring, McDonagh and Rackard. Standards drop crowds drop interest drops TV drops.

There is a reason why Turkeys don't vote for Christmas.

The standards in those hurling competitions haven't dropped at all. They've improved if anything.


I'd imagine lads would be putting more in when they have a realistic chance of winning a competition.

You'd be imagining wrong.

So, when Roscommon were regularly getting hammered out the gate by Galway in the now defunct Connacht hurling championship they were putting more effort in than what they do now when they've a realistic chance of winning a Nicky Rackard??

What are you basing this on?

Do you know anything all about the state of Roscommon hurling to even utter this thought?

He's right.  They most definitely do.  How about you answer his question for a change, instead of your usual play-the-man routine?

imtommygunn

Antrim doesn't have that big a hurling population. The hurling standards would never improve the way the christy ring was. The 2nd tier this year was great. Problem in hurling is when you drop a competition  standards drop significantly. If this were introduced in football it would be different. Hurling has so much difference in pace between levels. (The standards are up and down in antrim hurling. It depends who turns out really but our clubs haven't won ulster in 2 years and probably won't for a year or two so standards probably have dropped a bit but i think appetite for the county team has too which doesn't help).

Footballers definitely haven't improved.

Kuwabatake Sanjuro

Quote from: johnnycool on July 19, 2018, 04:38:53 PM


So, when Roscommon were regularly getting hammered out the gate by Galway in the now defunct Connacht hurling championship they were putting more effort in than what they do now when they've a realistic chance of winning a Nicky Rackard??

What are you basing this on?

To be fair looking back at some of the scorelines of the Galway games they were fairly respectable. Obviously Galway weren't the strongest back then but these days Roscommon would do well to get within 30.

johnnycool

Quote from: Syferus on July 19, 2018, 04:46:26 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 19, 2018, 04:38:53 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 19, 2018, 03:34:44 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 19, 2018, 03:05:47 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 19, 2018, 12:56:00 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 15, 2018, 09:47:43 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 15, 2018, 09:37:57 AM
2015 Nicky Rackard Cup Final.
Totally irrelevant question.

And was it shown live this year on National TV?

The only irrelevancy is tiered completions, Tommy Murphy, Christy Ring, McDonagh and Rackard. Standards drop crowds drop interest drops TV drops.

There is a reason why Turkeys don't vote for Christmas.

The standards in those hurling competitions haven't dropped at all. They've improved if anything.


I'd imagine lads would be putting more in when they have a realistic chance of winning a competition.

You'd be imagining wrong.

So, when Roscommon were regularly getting hammered out the gate by Galway in the now defunct Connacht hurling championship they were putting more effort in than what they do now when they've a realistic chance of winning a Nicky Rackard??

What are you basing this on?

Do you know anything all about the state of Roscommon hurling to even utter this thought?

It was always so IMO.

One run out against a disinterested Galway didn't make it any better back in the day.

Mid and lower tier counties don't have the playing base and with a huge step up in professionalism by the counties with the resources to do so have left a unsurmountable gap between the haves and the have nots.

This is not the fault of these tiered competitions but at least most hurling counties are playing competitive games over the summer and have an achievable target to aim for.

Let's be real, most footballing counties aren't within an asses roar of an AI title as its left to the select few and by and large has been the case, just like hurling.

The promotion of said competitions is a whole other debate and the "hurling" presidents who presided over the downgrading of these competitions need their holes booted.