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Title: Next Laois football manager
Post by: SCFC on July 27, 2017, 08:22:19 AM
Well,  Creedon is now gone. So new thread.
Who do we want? Let's be realistic too.
I'd gamble on Chris Conway.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on July 27, 2017, 08:56:50 AM
Pillar has this sewn up.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Joeythelips on July 27, 2017, 09:04:06 AM
Well looking at the brightside we can't get relegated whoever it is.  :D

Again like everyone else I would like to see a Laois man in charge but one with any sort of management experience are thin on the ground. Maybe a management team of former players, I thought Derek Conroy did a decent job when in charge of u-21s, Conway and Higgins have good experience while some on here suggest Clancy deserves a crack. If you could get 3 of those working together it could be a good set up and give them a couple of years to get things right. The targets are not earth shattering, get promotion from Div 4 and try and be the 3rd best team in Leinster, anything more is bonus territory.

One thing is for sure whoever gets it they have one serious difficult task ahead of them.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Joeythelips on July 27, 2017, 09:09:02 AM
Pillar has this sewn up.

I hope that is fiction, I would not even listen to the games on the radio if he was given the job.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on July 27, 2017, 09:09:59 AM
You'd have to think Billy Sheehan would be a great appointment.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 27, 2017, 09:11:47 AM
Joey the two or three involved in theory is a good thing but never works out like that.  I think it's a one man gig unless the others are happy to work under someone but you can's have them all as equals.  But make this next appointment a Laois one and not some auld fella the County Board are pals with. 

Clancy for me, not against Chris, Joe or Malachy.  But no way to Billy Sheehan
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: redsetanta on July 27, 2017, 09:13:33 AM
Is Billy Sheehan involved with the Cork senior footballers?
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 27, 2017, 09:18:45 AM
A coach with them
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: welcomehome on July 27, 2017, 09:18:59 AM
i am sorry to  say i would have none of the people mentioned...They were good footballers,but not for laois manager....
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on July 27, 2017, 09:19:08 AM
Is Billy Sheehan involved with the Cork senior footballers?
He was.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Unison on July 27, 2017, 09:21:53 AM
Billy Sheehan for me!
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 27, 2017, 09:24:44 AM
Any of you ever had Billy Sheehan as a manager because Ballyroan did, good coach forget it as a manager.  He was part of a dreadful Cork set up who had a comeback against Mayo who had taken off most of their defence.  He would prepare us well for Waterford who Cork were all out to beat by a point.  Why are our own not good enough and mention anyone from anywhere else and instantly they are the man.  Billy Sheehan is not a Laois Man no matter how many of you waffle on about his dedication and commitment.  He is from Austin Stacks in Kerry he threw his hat in with Laois and Emo and when they did not work he tried to go to Kilcruise when that did not work he headed to St Judes and now his with Cork.   No he is not a Laois Man.

We don't have money so any talk of paying big bucks is not going to happen. 
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: SCFC on July 27, 2017, 09:31:10 AM
Billy Sheehan? If we paying that kind of bucks again, why not get someone decent? Get a Laois man in.
Anyway, I hear the job is already filled. Mick Dempsey in for a second term.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: redsetanta on July 27, 2017, 09:39:09 AM
Very good news if it's true SCFC. A much different animal than he was when he last managed us. Great contacts within the game and a man with vast experience and knowledge. Very highly thought of with our hurling neighbours. A great appointment id true.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on July 27, 2017, 09:41:01 AM
like i said interview all parties see who has that extra factor,if its higgins,malachy,conway,billy,clancy  you ring the clubs they have been
with see what they brought to there area the club the players get a feel for the guy your employing to do this very important job,this man has to have charisma a tactical brain but most of all this is the important bit lads COMMAND the respect of the players be no fool be strong be passionate about wanting to win and let that feed to the laois people to the backers of laois gaa that put money into this county set up,i for one think its an attractive job i would like players input into the whole thing,i dont want a bluffer i want to see a fit laois team playing with passion but playing to a plan and not the stuff we have all seen last couple of years
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: GAA-SMART on July 27, 2017, 09:44:24 AM
It'll be someone like John Evans, we can kid ourselves with the "Laois Man" appointment but won't happen.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 27, 2017, 09:50:14 AM
Mick Dempsey would you leave it out, shows your age.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: seafoid on July 27, 2017, 10:22:41 AM
Is there nobody from the golden generation of Laois football who could be guided by an older manager with experience as part of a 5 year plan? Laois are going around in circles at the moment.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on July 27, 2017, 10:48:42 AM
Is there nobody from the golden generation of Laois football who could be guided by an older manager with experience as part of a 5 year plan? Laois are going around in circles at the moment.
When was this golden generation? I must have missed it.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: SCFC on July 27, 2017, 11:56:15 AM
Mick Dempsey would you leave it out, shows your age.
What does this mean?
I heard he's in line for the job and posted it here.
Don't attack the poster.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: blueandwhite1 on July 27, 2017, 12:02:14 PM
Mick Dempsey would you leave it out, shows your age.

Sure he would never be good enough for us. What has he done anyway except play for Laois, manage Laois U21s and Seniors previously and win 8 hurling All-Irelands as a coach with Kilkenny. What would he know...
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 27, 2017, 12:11:49 PM
Right must contact Davy Fitz then, because winning hurling all Irelands and football are the same thing.  Its 15 years since he managed a club, 20 since a county and more than 20 since u21.  I never understood why we keep going back to him.  No slur on Mick he was top class when he was there,  but Gaelic Football has moved on.  Maybe he could come on Eamonn Kennedy's backroom team as that where his experience of late lies.

I know there are a lot of boys who have respect for Mick on here, but he has been involved in the appointing and interviewing of managers over the last few years and the results would not fill me with confidence.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on July 27, 2017, 12:27:35 PM
why do them lads guidence for jays sake there all nearly 40 years old,i no lads like malachy but he is over a team that was going for ten in row and with the best club quality on show he is my club team manager but i also would like him tested in a leeser club to see can he bring them up a level,higgins did that with kileen conway in tipperary and clancy no matter wat you say brought ballyraon up so it will be interesting to see wat graigue  do this weekend,,again interview them all
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: welcomehome on July 27, 2017, 12:34:44 PM
What people forget,there is a big difference in managing a club,than a county...
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on July 27, 2017, 12:36:00 PM
why do them lads guidence for jays sake there all nearly 40 years old,i no lads like malachy but he is over a team that was going for ten in row and with the best club quality on show he is my club team manager but i also would like him tested in a leeser club to see can he bring them up a level,higgins did that with kileen conway in tipperary and clancy no matter wat you say brought ballyraon up so it will be interesting to see wat graigue  do this weekend,,again interview them all

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Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 27, 2017, 12:37:49 PM
What people forget,there is a big difference in managing a club,than a county...

If that was the case only county managers would get county jobs.  Portlaoise at their best would prob operate comfortably in Div 3.  None of them could be worse than TOF, Lillis or  Creedon even if they tried.  Experience only matters with the top teams as they are operating at a certain level.  We are hiring washed out journey men that no one else wants,  I would rather gamble on our own and maybe we can manufacture a good one.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Unison on July 27, 2017, 12:41:49 PM
why do them lads guidence for jays sake there all nearly 40 years old,i no lads like malachy but he is over a team that was going for ten in row and with the best club quality on show he is my club team manager but i also would like him tested in a leeser club to see can he bring them up a level,higgins did that with kileen conway in tipperary and clancy no matter wat you say brought ballyraon up so it will be interesting to see wat graigue  do this weekend,,again interview them all

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Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: portlaoisekid on July 27, 2017, 01:13:26 PM
Serious question, Is there a real appetite from our county board for us to be the best we can be?

I don't think so, too many CB members only interested in their own agenda for us as a county to be the best we can be.

GAA in this county is a mess, the only reason we get national attention in July is because we are the laughing stock of the GAA again. The good time boys of football.

No one decent will get it, a half hearted yes man who will do as he is told by our CB will get it. More money down the drain.

Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 27, 2017, 02:58:43 PM
Here are the potential candidates so far, I'm assuming they all want it ? ? ? ?

http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/07/27/10-potential-candidates-laois-football-managers-job/
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Unison on July 27, 2017, 04:14:45 PM
Here are the potential candidates so far, I'm assuming they all want it ? ? ? ?

http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/07/27/10-potential-candidates-laois-football-managers-job/

There are some crazy options here!!
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Laois Laois on July 27, 2017, 05:22:50 PM
Get rid of Kavangh when we are at it ... Management appointments during his tenure have been woeful at best
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on July 27, 2017, 05:36:19 PM
Get rid of Kavangh when we are at it ... Management appointments during his tenure have been woeful at best
He's gone. What stooge replaces him is another matter entirely.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 27, 2017, 06:15:08 PM
From RTE Sport

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Peter Creedon and his Laois management team have stepped away from their positions, after just one season in charge.

There had been speculation over the Cork native's position as Laois boss in recent days but Creedon has confirmed that he and his backroom members will not seek reappointment for 2018.

"Although we had the support of the County Board executive and the Laois players, we feel that staying on would have been divisive for the county, given the nature of a recent board meeting," Creedon said.

"This type of generalisation of there being a drink culture in the squad is deeply unfair and divisive given that we were aware of only one incident where three players were absent from an early training session on Easter Monday," he added.

"The management were not aware of any issues regarding a drinking culture and, in recent discussions with players, we found they were at a loss to explain or substantiate such rumours."

Creedon and his backroom team oversaw huge progression with the Tipperary footballers before Liam Kearns continued that project to great effect.

However, Creedon accepts that it was a disappointing season with Laois - they were relegated to Division 4 on the final day of the NFL and ultimately bowed out of the Championship against Clare.

"It was disappointing," the former Tipp manager said. "However, inches of a post were the difference to us being relegated or staying up and throughout the league we had a number of injuries to contend with.

"Trying to blood new players proved hard as well - but we accept that results were poor and that an inability to keep 15 players on the pitch ultimately led to relegation.

"The training increased in intensity for the championship, though, and our players responded with an emphatic victory over Longford. The improved levels of fitness and spirit in the team and our game-plan worked well on the day.

"Two weeks later, unfortunately, our second half performance against Kildare was very flat.

"We regrouped in the qualifiers and defeated Wicklow but then Clare proved to be too good for us in our last game of the season. Again, I felt our second half showing was again very flat once we were reduced to 14 men."
 

The outgoing management feel that Laois are in the midst of a rebuilding process and says that patience is now required.

"Constant reference to the 2003 All Ireland minor winning teams back-boning the current senior team is now irrelevant," Creedon continued.

"Unfortunately, as we tried to bring new players in, we found a lack of understanding from keyboard warriors, and some club delegates. A fairer analysis of results over the last four years will show that Laois have slipped and are now playing catch up with Kildare and Meath, in particular, in Leinster.
"The County Board has put in place fantastic training facilities and excellent mentors for the underage development squads. If all parties in Laois pull together those investments will pay dividends.

"With a dedicated and unified group of young players they can work their way back to the top," Creedon said.

"We leave with our heads held high. The officials of the county board supported us all year and everything that we asked for was given to the panel. We had an excellent medical team, great kit men, and a panel of genuine players who gave huge effort to the cause. Maybe the results did not reflect their effort but they gave 100 per cent to all training sessions and games."
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 27, 2017, 07:01:10 PM
Bye Peter thanks for reading, should have gone sooner or better still return your expenses.   It was on your watch that this county sank to it's lowest level in nearly 50 years.  Cork are looking for a new manager I am sure you will be top of their list.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: The Monument Road on July 27, 2017, 09:33:14 PM
why do them lads guidence for jays sake there all nearly 40 years old,i no lads like malachy but he is over a team that was going for ten in row and with the best club quality on show he is my club team manager but i also would like him tested in a leeser club to see can he bring them up a level,higgins did that with kileen conway in tipperary and clancy no matter wat you say brought ballyraon up so it will be interesting to see wat graigue  do this weekend,,again interview them all
Ah lads give him a chance. You have to read it backwards. Makes more sense ;D
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Unlaoised on July 27, 2017, 09:41:58 PM
Pete mcgrath is hardly going to travel from Down 😁😁😁😁

If he did he would be a great mentor to one or two that are mentioned on the list .


I seen 4 of these lads at the match tonight
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on July 27, 2017, 10:26:52 PM
A committed and fit Laois team will/would get promotion from Division 4 next year. In that regard it is a relatively attractive job for someone starting off.
A mentor would be useful
Tommy Lyons? Billy Morgan (if he doesn't get the Cork job)?
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on July 27, 2017, 10:53:06 PM
A committed and fit Laois team will/would get promotion from Division 4 next year. In that regard it is a relatively attractive job for someone starting off.
A mentor would be useful
Tommy Lyons? Billy Morgan (if he doesn't get the Cork job)?
Jesus, Billy Morgan isnt going to bother his hole travel to Laois at his age.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on July 27, 2017, 11:51:44 PM
A committed and fit Laois team will/would get promotion from Division 4 next year. In that regard it is a relatively attractive job for someone starting off.
A mentor would be useful
Tommy Lyons? Billy Morgan (if he doesn't get the Cork job)?
Jesus, Billy Morgan isnt going to bother his hole travel to Laois at his age.

If the man is a realistic contender for the Cork job (and we are told he is) age isn't a problem.
You are talking about less than two hours of a drive (on a motorway) for a job that has no huge responsibility or workload and that would be fairly well compensated
If we can afford Creedon and his extensive backroom team, we can afford a Laois man plus an experienced advisor (who wouldn't be required every night).

I don't know whether he would or wouldn't be bothered his hole, but age obviously isn't a factor when his club mate is on national TV proposing him for the job.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Dave like the tv channel on July 27, 2017, 11:54:51 PM
like i said interview all parties see who has that extra factor,if its higgins,malachy,conway,billy,clancy  you ring the clubs they have been
with see what they brought to there area the club the players get a feel for the guy your employing to do this very important job,this man has to have charisma a tactical brain but most of all this is the important bit lads COMMAND the respect of the players be no fool be strong be passionate about wanting to win and let that feed to the laois people to the backers of laois gaa that put money into this county set up,i for one think its an attractive job i would like players input into the whole thing,i dont want a bluffer i want to see a fit laois team playing with passion but playing to a plan and not the stuff we have all seen last couple of years

Christ, James Joyce has nothing on you.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 28, 2017, 01:08:14 AM
Creedon: Drinking allegations made us look like 'laughing stocks'

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=273622

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Outgoing Laois football manager Peter Creedon has once again denied that there was a drink culture within his squad.
Speaking on the RTE GAA Podcast today, the Cork native strongly rejected the allegations which were raised by delegates at a county board meeting two weeks ago, saying that the suggestions made the players and management look like "laughing stocks".
"Not once throughout the whole year did any person come to me or Gary (Kavanagh) or Tom (McKettrick), who were based and living in Laois, with information regarding players constantly drinking or whatever," he told RTÉ's GAA Podcast.
"I wasn't following the players around all the time but to the best of our knowledge there wasn't a drink culture there and it was really bad form to have it splashed across the media because not only does it make the players and ourselves look like laughing stocks, it's not a positive reflection on Laois either.
"Some of the things that were being said about us in Laois were just off the wall really."
The O’Moore men suffered relegation to Division 4 of the National League and 10-point qualifier defeat to Clare in the championship during Creedon’s sole season in charge, with Creedon claiming to have had only one discipline issue with players during the year.
"There was one morning were three players failed to show but they were dealt with. One player didn't play for two championship matches after that as a consequence for his actions,” he said.
"We were being accused of being too quiet and too nice with the players but at the same time we were slowly putting in place the actual structures needed going forward."
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: seafoid on July 28, 2017, 01:12:19 AM
Banty
Turlough O Brien
James Horan
Whoever the Mullinalaghta manager is

Just get a manager and stop shitehawking
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on July 28, 2017, 08:34:48 AM
A committed and fit Laois team will/would get promotion from Division 4 next year. In that regard it is a relatively attractive job for someone starting off.
A mentor would be useful
Tommy Lyons? Billy Morgan (if he doesn't get the Cork job)?
Jesus, Billy Morgan isnt going to bother his hole travel to Laois at his age.

If the man is a realistic contender for the Cork job (and we are told he is) age isn't a problem.
You are talking about less than two hours of a drive (on a motorway) for a job that has no huge responsibility or workload and that would be fairly well compensated
If we can afford Creedon and his extensive backroom team, we can afford a Laois man plus an experienced advisor (who wouldn't be required every night).

I don't know whether he would or wouldn't be bothered his hole, but age obviously isn't a factor when his club mate is on national TV proposing him for the job.
Ah would you stop, I saw Billy Morgan a few months ago and the man looks like another clean shirt would do him. Where the f**k would we be going asking that man to drive to Laois 3 times a week? Morgan is a dyed in the wool Cork man as well, what f**king interest would he have bothering his hole in Laois? Theres no Teddy Mc in Billy Morgan. Lets try and be realistic here.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: portlaoisekid on July 28, 2017, 08:56:03 AM
Creeden has more to say since he lost his job than he has all year. Obviously getting his speak in early for his next gig.

He failed to mention though that Laois were probably the most unfit team in Ireland or they were tactically inept in every facet of the game.

The drinking of a few doesn't cover up for the fact that Peter and his mgt team oversaw the worst year in Laois senior football in living memory and the year was an unmitigated disaster.

The manager has to take some responsibility.

Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Unison on July 28, 2017, 09:37:48 AM
Creeden has more to say since he lost his job than he has all year. Obviously getting his speak in early for his next gig.

He failed to mention though that Laois were probably the most unfit team in Ireland or they were tactically inept in every facet of the game.

The drinking of a few doesn't cover up for the fact that Peter and his mgt team oversaw the worst year in Laois senior football in living memory and the year was an unmitigated disaster.

The manager has to take some responsibility.

And the CB wanted to reappoint him!!
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: SpeculativeEffort on July 28, 2017, 09:38:17 AM
Why dont we go after Dessie Farrell or someone else who is cutting their teeth in Dublin football. That is who the whole country is chasing. He would put structures in place and bring professionalism anyway.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on July 28, 2017, 10:28:53 AM
Ah would you stop, I saw Billy Morgan a few months ago and the man looks like another clean shirt would do him.

I guess you know more than Tomas O Se so with regard to his health, energy levels and current capabilities. 
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on July 28, 2017, 10:50:06 AM
Ah would you stop, I saw Billy Morgan a few months ago and the man looks like another clean shirt would do him.

I guess you know more than Tomas O Se so with regard to his health, energy levels and current capabilities.
TOS put his name forward for the Cork job, not the f**king Laois one, some 200KM away. Seriously, catch yourself on a bit.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on July 28, 2017, 11:03:35 AM
Ah would you stop, I saw Billy Morgan a few months ago and the man looks like another clean shirt would do him.

I guess you know more than Tomas O Se so with regard to his health, energy levels and current capabilities.
TOS put his name forward for the Cork job, not the f**king Laois one, some 200KM away. Seriously, catch yourself on a bit.

So a man that could MANAGE Cork- a job with serious pressure, expectation, scrutiny and criticism, is not capable of sitting in a car 2-3 times a week, travelling (or being driven) up a motorway for a couple of hours and acting as an advisor?
I never proposed him as Laois manager.

He may well have no interest in such a position, but TOS thinking he is fit to manage Cork and you making him out to be some sort of invalid doesn't exactly square up.
I think I'll go with TOS' judgement on this one.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on July 28, 2017, 11:17:07 AM
Ah would you stop, I saw Billy Morgan a few months ago and the man looks like another clean shirt would do him.

I guess you know more than Tomas O Se so with regard to his health, energy levels and current capabilities.
TOS put his name forward for the Cork job, not the f**king Laois one, some 200KM away. Seriously, catch yourself on a bit.

So a man that could MANAGE Cork- a job with serious pressure, expectation, scrutiny and criticism, is not capable of sitting in a car 2-3 times a week, travelling (or being driven) up a motorway for a couple of hours and acting as an advisor?
I never proposed him as Laois manager.

He may well have no interest in such a position, but TOS thinking he is fit to manage Cork and you making him out to be some sort of invalid doesn't exactly square up.
I think I'll go with TOS' judgement on this one.
You're a crazy man, crazy. Insane. Off the reservation. Loola. Dippy. Deeply.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Andy06 on July 28, 2017, 12:00:43 PM
Creeden has more to say since he lost his job than he has all year. Obviously getting his speak in early for his next gig.

He failed to mention though that Laois were probably the most unfit team in Ireland or they were tactically inept in every facet of the game.

The drinking of a few doesn't cover up for the fact that Peter and his mgt team oversaw the worst year in Laois senior football in living memory and the year was an unmitigated disaster.

The manager has to take some responsibility.

And the CB wanted to reappoint him!!

For this reason alone there should be joyous celebrations when that collective bunch of muppets stand down.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Tony on July 28, 2017, 12:35:42 PM
Get a Laois man in. Save money. We don't need an outside manager to come in for a couple of years and then leave. We'll likely get promoted, whoever we get. But it's not going to be a vintage year. Get the fitness levels up, get a panel of committed players, and that's it. That's all we can hope for in 2018 as it'll be a good few years before we're properly competitive again. Focus on underage now for a few years and senior will take care of itself. Some of the outside names being mentioned are absolutely ridiculous. Conway or Malachy would do well. Maybe Clancy at a push. Doesn't really matter. Just make sure we have committed players and fitness. Tactics is a bonus. Nevermind the journeymen like Banty. We do not need that again.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbbey on July 28, 2017, 01:22:05 PM
Realistically it doesn't matter who we get in they will be under pressure from the start from supporters, a few bad performances in the league or even the o'byrne cup and their head will be called for, whats a realistic target for laois next year, probably getting out of division 4, beating anyone in leinster outside of dublin, kildare and meath and beating a division 4 or lower division 3 team in the qualifiers
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: blueandwhite1 on July 28, 2017, 01:22:46 PM
Why dont we go after Dessie Farrell or someone else who is cutting their teeth in Dublin football. That is who the whole country is chasing. He would put structures in place and bring professionalism anyway.

The structures in Dublin cost millions every year from club revenue and directly from Croke Park. They also have a population of 1.2 million. Nobody will be able to replicate that in Laois. We do need to take a leaf from other counties though and learn how to develop players from 16 to 23 into athletes. As well as the lack of football skills, the difference in the physical conditioning between our senior club / county footballers and other counties is staggering. The likes of Dublin, Mayo, Kildare, Kerry are starting to produce lads that are physically transformed and look more like aussie rules players by the time they are 23 or 24. That is what Creedon meant when he said there is a five year journey. Even if you have the footballers, to compete at a modern level you have to have it all -

Skill, Pace, organization, physicality, athleticism, commitment, belief.

We at the moment, have none of the above.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: GAA-SMART on July 28, 2017, 02:34:10 PM
We wouldnt beat the top teams in Division 1 Dublin at the moment, maybe compete strongly against mid table ones, that is the reality.  Maybe it takes a Laois guy to take the team, but he has to be given the time required to do the job, we cant keep blaming guys, Cian O Neill for example is on record as saying it takes 3 years for a full plan to be integrated longer term, we need that plan and we need it now.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on July 28, 2017, 04:15:51 PM
Malachy is from my own club but look he has not been the best manager the club has had,i said before he is manager of portlaoise that were going for ten in a row so the players he inherited were winners already,he lost it on the line along with tommy in last years final which was plain too see,Conway for me i havent seen him with a senior side yet i mean inspiring the lesser clubs,,joe has a good record clancy made progress in Ballyroan,,also john sugru is another name worth mentioning,,,i want a laois man also like tony says i hope we get one
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 28, 2017, 05:03:17 PM
john sugru is another name worth mentioning,,,i want a laois man also like tony says i hope we get one

So John Sugrue is a Laois man now, is he ? ?
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 28, 2017, 05:25:18 PM
List of candidates from the Leinster Express

While Peter Creedon's departure was only confirmed this morning, thoughts have invariably turned to who will replace him at the helm of the Laois senior football team.
It is a massive task facing whoever is handed the reins in the coming weeks or months. With the support base fractured and football in general suffering from widespread apathy, perhaps a local man is best qualified to unite the county and bring some buzz and confidence back to the set up.
Below, we list off the best of the potential candidates from within the county, while also listing some possible candidates from beyond the Laois border.

1. Joe Higgins
Has been in the running in the past, and of the local candidates, has one of the strongest CVs going. Managed the Laois Ladies to an All-Ireland semi-final, as well as taking Arles-Killeen to a county final, while he also had a spell in charge of Graiguecullen. A hugely popular figure with the Laois support base.
2. Malachy McNulty
Brought Portlaoise to the Leinster club final in 2015, which they narrowly lost to Ballyboden St Enda's. Contested the Laois SFC final last year too, which they lost to Stradbally, but still highly regarded in the club. Thorough and very well prepared, he may not have had a playing career to match some other candidates on this list but he has done well in management thus far. How he fares this year with Portlaoise, who look like they will be missing a handful of regulars, will be a big test of his managerial acumen.

3. John Sugrue
He was apparently the players choice to replace Mick Lillis, the Kerry man has been based in Laois for a number of years now. Has previously worked with Kerry at U-21 and senior level, and has also coached at development squad level with Laois. Runs his own physiotherapy practice in Portlaoise, and has played for Park-Ratheniska, so would have a good knowledge of the local club scene, and of what talent is coming through.
4. Chris Conway
Still playing for Arles-Kilcruise, Conway has been doing impressive work with Knockbeg, who continue to compete in the Leinster Colleges 'A' championship. He won a Tipperary SFC title with Thomas McDonagh's, an area team eligible to pick from nine different clubs in North Tipperary, back in 2011. He has been touted in the past for the minor job, given his success at Knockbeg.
5. Padraig Clancy
Like Higgins and Conway, a hugely popular figure around the county from his time playing. He is relatively green in management circles, with two years in charge of Ballyroan Abbey under his belt. He is currently in charge of Graiguecullen, a side many are expecting big things from this year, so the coming months will tell us more about his managerial ability.
6. Derek Conroy
Another former player, he had a spell in charge of the Laois U-21s, and got some good performances out of them. He has managed at club level in Laois, so has a good handle on what talent is out there. Having done well with many of the players that need to be introduced to the senior panel, if he's not the manager, having him involved in some form could be very beneficial.


OUTSIDE CANDIDATES

Martin Murphy (Offaly)
Has lead Stradbally to two SFC titles, in separate decades, and has shown himself astute in preparing teams. It would be a significant jump for the Gracefield club man to make, but he has a good record in the county.
Colin Kelly (Louth)
Lead the Wee County to back-to-back league promotions in 2016 and 2017, although they didn't particularly impress in the championship. Improved Louth all the same, and is on the market now after stepping down after this year's championship defeat.
Pete McGrath (Down)
Was in charge of the Fermanagh team which impressively accounted for Laois in the NFL last year, he also brought them to an All-Ireland quarter-final and Division 2 of the NFL. Universally respected, and having twice managed the Down minor team, he has a good record in working and improving young players, which any prospective manager must have. Down is long way north for the commute, but the motorway makes things easier.
Fergal O'Donnell (Roscommon)
An impressive track record with his native county, he won an All-Ireland minor title back in 2006, their first in 55 years, and won Connacht titles with Roscommon as a player and manager (in 2010). Took a second stint in charge of the Roscommon minors, getting them to an All-Ireland semi-final, before going back in charge of the senior team, in a joint arrangement with Kevin McStay. Stepped down from that role late last year.
Anthony Cunningham (Galway)
Worked with the panel in 2016 during Mick Lillis' tenure, he was well received by the players, who had hoped he might have stayed on. Obviously known for his exploits with the Galway hurlers, he has a strong football record also, and would at least have some background in working within Laois.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Giovanni on July 28, 2017, 05:40:08 PM
If we want to get the best manager possible, Pete McGrath is head and shoulders above all the others being mentioned.

If we want to try to nurture some homegrown managerial talent, then my vote would go to Chris Conway.

I'm not sure which strategy is the best one.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Butch Cassidy on July 28, 2017, 06:32:57 PM
A combined team of Pete and Conway would be good Giovanni.

The next appointment is crucial and hope getting relegated doesn't restrict the financial side of getting in a good management team.

It's a tough job though but you see teams getting momentum  and going from division 4 to division 2 but you need everyone putting their shoulder to the wheel.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Tony on July 28, 2017, 06:48:16 PM
The appointments over the last few years have been crucial, too Butch. When TOF came in, that was the real time to get an excellent manager - a time when we had a decent squad at a good age bracket to do something of note. 4 years and 3 unsuccessful managers later, it's too late to do anything of note. Justin McNulty had them on the right track, we just needed to refine it. TOF, Lillis and PC have been disasters. Now we're at sea at senior, really. We'll have to focus on underage now. Forget Pete McGrath, that is NOT going to happen. Get the Laois option, someone decent, and focus on underage. Pete M and his team would be ridiculously expensive and for what? We're division 4. We need to transition now and build for the next 5 - 10 years with quality underage coaching and structures. If Pete McGrath arrives, do you think he'll be in Laois in 2022? No way. It's got to be a cheaper Laois man option - we've got to look at the long term now rather than a knee jerk appointment like that.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Gmac on July 28, 2017, 07:49:27 PM
Get Ross in as manager knows who the fakers are ,knows what it takes to be successful and would have respect of everyone in county , what have we got to lose
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Butch Cassidy on July 28, 2017, 08:21:30 PM
Good points Tony. Does anyone close to the underage setup know if the structures are in place and we're making improvements? U17s were good this year but we need that consistently over the next 5-10 years like Kildare are doing at minor.

Big urban areas like Portlaoise, Portarlington, Mountmellick and Graigue need to targeted as they are not producing enough senior footballers.

Portlaoise seem to have fallen back at underage with St Paul's, Ballyroan and Portarlington doing well. Why is this?
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Giovanni on July 29, 2017, 02:51:06 PM
I wouldn't have thought that Fermanagh have much financial  clout and they were able to afford him. I would be against the idea of going for the cheaper option just because it's cheaper.

I think the idea of going for a Laois manager is right as long as it's not just a shot in the dark. The problem is that it will be a shot in the dark with most of the Laois  candidates being mentioned.

If there is a genuine belief that Chris Conway or Joe Higgins should be given until 2022 (which I doubt), then it seems sensible to have someone like Pete McGrath involved in the short term.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Tony on July 29, 2017, 03:23:19 PM
It's highly unlikely that Pete McGrath would like to manage Laois. Besides, reading the article below, it's hard to see why we would want him anyway. Usually, the players know best as they're working with the manager face to face multiple times a week. Voting him out on a vote of 21 - 9 doesn't say a lot about Fermanagh players confidence in him at all.

http://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2017/07/17/news/mcgrath-points-finger-at-players-1085706/

In reality, the only men we can get from outside the county are journeymen, looking for a bit of cash on the side. They have no real passion for Laois. As a division 4 team, we cannot attract anyone decent from outside the county. It's simply not an attractive job for any good manager with a good track record.

It's got to be a passionate Laois man, with a bit of good experience, well respected, and has a plan to take us forward. That's realistically the best we can get. We're not knocking on the doors of the top tier anymore - we have to be realistic about who we can get.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 29, 2017, 03:55:48 PM
Tony you coming over to the dark side?  Clancy for me hopefully I am right and he can get a tune out of Graigue in this year's championship.  I think he was underrated in Ballyroan and he did a big job down here.  I could be wrong and he could be dreadful with Graigue but I do feel he has an X Factor that few have .  I am sure Don will call me an idiot but we shall see.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Target Man on July 29, 2017, 04:11:39 PM
I don't really care if we go outside or inside, just get whoever we think is best. Selection of outside candidates likely to be limited.

Im surprised John Sugrue is not being mentioned more, seems like the outstanding local candidate to me. The rest of the local candidates seem ,looking purely at results, to be a bit of a gamble. I think Conway would be good, but as with most of others hasnt enough of a record to make him a definite 1st choice for job. Mark Rooney, imo, has as good a record as most mentioned in this thread

If we go outside we need to get it right (easier said than done). Stay away from the Banty/Cribbin/Flanagan circuit of managers. In an ideal world I'd like James Horan but close to 0 chance of that. Someone like Colm Collins (if doesnt go back to Clare) might be an option, he has done a serious job with Clare.

The backroom team will be as important as the manager. County board needs to appoint the right man and back him fully. I see clubs meant to have nominations in by Fri. Seems very rushed, if one was of a suspicious nature one might think there is some sharp practice going on
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Tony on July 29, 2017, 04:27:13 PM
I wouldn't complain too much if John Sugrue got the job either. He's based in Laois and is highly regarded. He didn't want the job a couple of years ago after the players looked to get him as manager but who knows, maybe things have changed.

This will be a 3-5 year job for someone to get Laois back to decent standard again, the the incoming manager ought to know that. I wish we had a Laois based man similar to Cian O' Neill in Kildare. He's doing a fantastic job there in fairness. Tactically astute, focus on S&C, progressive, passionate about his own county. Do we have any of that description in Laois? If he's missing one of those key 4 components, he's not going to be successful in the long-term. I fear that we'll get someone the standard of Lillis or TOF to be honest. We haven't made a good appointment since Justin McNulty.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 29, 2017, 06:51:52 PM
Club Nominations not worth a jot,  they are a PR exercise the appointment completely in the hands of the executive.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Tony on July 29, 2017, 09:13:13 PM
We beat Armagh 3 times last year - Twice in the championship and once in the league. And now here they are a year later looking good for their quarter final appearance after a great performance VS a Kildare team who annihilated us earlier this year.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on July 29, 2017, 09:42:38 PM
We beat Armagh 3 times last year - Twice in the championship and once in the league. And now here they are a year later looking good for their quarter final appearance after a great performance VS a Kildare team who annihilated us earlier this year.

Bring back Mick Lillis!
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on July 29, 2017, 09:49:05 PM
Ballyroanabu I agree with you ,,your team was in half the shape last night compared to last year and looked a lot of the time as if yee  didn't no what yer were at? I just see the difference in pat and Clancy,, tonite I seen my own club manager look clueless at times mail struggled,,port should have cleaned out Killeen but tactically were all wrong look a good side with a good manager over them would cause problems, looking forward to the games tmw
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on July 29, 2017, 11:50:09 PM
I wish we had a Laois based man similar to Cian O' Neill in Kildare. He's doing a fantastic job there in fairness. Tactically astute, focus on S&C, progressive, passionate about his own county. Do we have any of that description in Laois?

Interestingly, back in the day (possibly as McNulty's replacement) Cian's name was once proposed on Laoistalk and was derided by several posters.
Even more interestingly I heard his name mentioned in the presence of a relatively influential CB member (probably even more influential now!) and he repeated almost verbatim the reasons from Laoistalk as to why he shouldn't be offered the job!

I'm fairly sure Cian was still with Tipp hurlers at the time & it was wondered would he be interested in going out on his own!
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: on the hop on July 30, 2017, 09:30:02 AM
We beat Armagh 3 times last year - Twice in the championship and once in the league. And now here they are a year later looking good for their quarter final appearance after a great performance VS a Kildare team who annihilated us earlier this year.

Armagh were in superb shape, unreal fitness levels in fairness for both teams. That takes serious commitment but unfortunately we have players not interested in reaching that level
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Unison on July 30, 2017, 10:13:00 AM
I think we should take heart from Armagh's unbelievable turnaround during the year and their performance last night. If they can do it, why not Laois? We need to put in place a good regime headed by a dedicated man aided by good coaches. We need to select 20 to 25 players from the county who dont't just want to wear the jersey, but who are committed enough to make sacrifices. Some complain that we do not have good defenders, and this may be true, but surely, with the right coach, good defenders can be produced. And the same goes for other areas on the field.

We can make progress, but we need the right man in charge and a good support system for him and the players. The County Board have failed badly in past, but they must get it right now and find a man who is determined to turn things around for Laois.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: OTF on July 30, 2017, 03:46:54 PM
We beat Armagh 3 times last year - Twice in the championship and once in the league. And now here they are a year later looking good for their quarter final appearance after a great performance VS a Kildare team who annihilated us earlier this year.

True..... but we wouldn't want to lose sight of the fact that we are a team in decline in both age and in terms of new talent coming through. Armagh on the other hand have a lot of young players coming through and they have Jamie Clarke back.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on August 01, 2017, 10:10:16 AM
Now the strength and conditioning coach speaks out..
http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/08/01/laois-sc-coach-says-players-management-made-laughing-stock/
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on August 01, 2017, 10:59:16 AM
Now the strength and conditioning coach speaks out..
http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/08/01/laois-sc-coach-says-players-management-made-laughing-stock/ ;D
f**k him, who does he think he is giving interviews? Jackie Cahill can piss off too digging up shite on us. He should be told where to go the next time he arrives on Fr Browne Avenue. That fella going on about wondering about getting back into the intercounty game, a prerequisite of getting a job as a S&C coach is proof that you can actually get a team fit. Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 01, 2017, 11:33:40 AM
Now the strength and conditioning coach speaks out..
http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/08/01/laois-sc-coach-says-players-management-made-laughing-stock/

Agree with the above. What basis was there for this guy been giving a platform in national papers?
You came in, got paid (probably cash), it didn't work out. Now you are threatening to never again make your expertise available to intercounty teams!
I think a Special Congress should be called immediately to pass a motion ensuring this doesn't happen!
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on August 01, 2017, 11:55:05 AM
I think they're all jumping on the bandwagon trying to get their names in the papers, the man should be ashamed to call himself a S&C coach looking at the fitness of our senior panel.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Unlaoised on August 01, 2017, 12:07:26 PM
I think they're all jumping on the bandwagon trying to get their names in the papers, the man should be ashamed to call himself a S&C coach looking at the fitness of our senior panel.

This.....I haven't said too much on the whole thing...

I got the impression that he was very easy on the players hence they all liked him and they were not as fit as they should have been.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on August 01, 2017, 12:11:35 PM
Spare a thought for this guy, he could lose his job because of a rumour about a few players having a pint. Give me a break.

Hes has some neck coming out in the papers, but lets not lose track of the real mudslinger here, eh Jackie?
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 01, 2017, 05:21:07 PM
Spare a thought for this guy, he could lose his job because of a rumour about a few players having a pint. Give me a break.

Hes has some neck coming out in the papers, but lets not lose track of the real mudslinger here, eh Jackie?

Interesting that the Tipp boys in the National media are coming out to bat for Creedon! Cahill and Lawlor are doing a good job of ensuring that Creedon comes out of this with his hands clean.
An important selling point for the County Boards of the many other manager less counties around!
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Tony on August 01, 2017, 07:01:47 PM
In fairness to Creedon, if we're solely discussing the DRINKING issue, I do believe him when he says he didn't know about it. It seems to me that a LOT of people involved, if not almost ALL people involved with laois this year, INCLUDING nearly all players, did not know about it.

Do we have a DEFINITIVE story on what actually happened? There are so, so many different tales passed off as truth. I can only imagine that a very small amount of players were involved and not often (ie once or twice). It certainly doesn't sound like a "drinking culture" throughout most of the squad. I'd love to know who was drinking, how regularly etc. They've no business being in a Laois jersey if it was prolonged. Give your place to someone who wants it more than you, who deserves it more than you.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Give and Go on August 01, 2017, 07:11:53 PM
County Board meetings are strange places. Its too easy make an unsubstantiated statement about players / management and walk away after destroying reputations. It shouldn't be allowed happen like that.

A couple of things strike me in these situations

The first criticism that is usually heard after a loss is .... they weren't fit. Usually based on little evidence, usually an opinion not a fact. To make a determination on fitness one would need to see fitness test results and training data.

Players on teams coached by Creedon seem to rate him highly. I am not equating like him with rating him. They rate him.

Many of the panel have been competing on the inter county scene for quite a long time now and perhaps that extra couple of percent in performance levels needed to be competitive isn't there any longer.

The panel is not as strong as in previous years and it is a time of transition.

Expectations of supporters are unrealistic.

No reason to not support the players or management next year; anyone playing for the county deserves respect and not these deplorable headlines.

I know one top inter county footballer, in another county, who quit because of the vile abuse he suffered by anonymous posters on forums. Comments should never be abusive or personal of players or managers.

It isn't all about the manager. All partners in a county - the County Executive, clubs, players, supporters are culpable for the environment around playing for a county. It can be toxic or supportive.

Leadership from the top is crucial in setting a county on the right trajectory.

It would be great to see a Laois man take the reins; the only way to improve coaching in the county is to give opportunities to local coaches / managers.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: seafoid on August 01, 2017, 07:31:23 PM
Is there nobody in Laois with a bit of money to help the footballers ?
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on August 02, 2017, 07:56:41 AM

The first criticism that is usually heard after a loss is .... they weren't fit. Usually based on little evidence, usually an opinion not a fact. To make a determination on fitness one would need to see fitness test results and training data.

They werent fit.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on August 02, 2017, 08:52:45 AM
This is what Ross thinks about this sorry mess...
http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/08/02/munnelly-hits-creedons-critics-says-future-undecided/
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 02, 2017, 09:51:18 AM
Peter Creedon and his backroom staff did not get reappointment because they were dreadful.  All this "spinning" shows to me that he is a clever fellow, however as a coach he was dreadful.  Any other counties S&C coach come out like this,  he should be ashamed of himself as Laois were in poor condition this year.  He was dreadful.   It's time we ignore the Newspapers and have a look at whats actually going on, fact or fiction.  As I have said before this strategic review is a waste of paper as there are too many Laois men involved with vested interests.

High Fielder if it's so easy coach defense why are more not doing it, your talking only 2-3 counties doing it properly.    I do think it can be coached myself but why are more not doing it and I don't think they are all stupid.


Just a thought is it possible that the reason so many of the Laois players liked the setup was the fact it was too cosy, a few could have been livened up.  It just seemed too happy for a ship that was sinking. 
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Joeythelips on August 02, 2017, 09:53:16 AM
County Board meetings are strange places. Its too easy make an unsubstantiated statement about players / management and walk away after destroying reputations. It shouldn't be allowed happen like that.

A couple of things strike me in these situations

The first criticism that is usually heard after a loss is .... they weren't fit. Usually based on little evidence, usually an opinion not a fact. To make a determination on fitness one would need to see fitness test results and training data.

Players on teams coached by Creedon seem to rate him highly. I am not equating like him with rating him. They rate him.

Many of the panel have been competing on the inter county scene for quite a long time now and perhaps that extra couple of percent in performance levels needed to be competitive isn't there any longer.

The panel is not as strong as in previous years and it is a time of transition.

Expectations of supporters are unrealistic.

No reason to not support the players or management next year; anyone playing for the county deserves respect and not these deplorable headlines.

I know one top inter county footballer, in another county, who quit because of the vile abuse he suffered by anonymous posters on forums. Comments should never be abusive or personal of players or managers.

It isn't all about the manager. All partners in a county - the County Executive, clubs, players, supporters are culpable for the environment around playing for a county. It can be toxic or supportive.

Leadership from the top is crucial in setting a county on the right trajectory.

It would be great to see a Laois man take the reins; the only way to improve coaching in the county is to give opportunities to local coaches / managers.

Good post. I know the reports going around about players drinking and the like is what makes headlines but I think it is fair to say that most people don't judge the management on this despite whatever is said at county board meetings.

Peter Creedon I'm sure worked very hard and is very well respected judging by players comments (especially senior players like JOL and Munnelly), but as with any management team in any sport they are judged on performances and results.

Fair enough he only had one season and it can be argued that the standard of football in the county is very low and he does not have a big pool of top class footballers to form a really competitive panel who push each other to be successful, but his job is to manage the resources at his disposal and going on what we saw this year he could not get the best out of the players at his disposal.

One main complaint among supporters that kept cropping up was fitness levels. I have not seen Laois play in the flesh this year and have only watched highlights of games so cannot judge, but I have spoken to people and read a lot of comments which indicate that fitness was a big issue, I spoke to someone who was at the Kildare game who said they players struggling fitness wise after 20 mins. Again this is second hand information but the fact that this complaint arises a lot would suggest it is an issue. You are right it would be nice to see some data regarding it but people are entitled to judge with their eyes.

Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Unlaoised on August 02, 2017, 11:19:28 AM
I was at five league games and all the championship games ..

Laois were not fit this year ...End of story...I don't care what the players say...I know we have a few the wrong side of 30 and a few with miles on the clock but they were blowing out of their arses more times this year in the first half in games it wasn't even funny.

We lost big leads to Sligo and died in other games including offaly this seemed to blamed on disipline but in truth one man shouldn't make a massive difference.


The same against Clare in the last game they were running at us in droves and O'Loughlin getting sent off didn't change that.

Wicklow late on we nearly the the game go...Wicklow in all fairness.

Creedon might be a nice man and have a top team in place which the players liked but that top team didn't get the best or even 3/4 of the best out of some of our players in my opinion .

He was backed into a corner a bit from delegates rash statements about drinking etc but maybe its for the best he went.

Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on August 02, 2017, 11:25:45 AM
time for nominations
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: blueandwhite1 on August 02, 2017, 12:09:00 PM
I wouldn't dispute that we weren't sufficiently fit this year however all the fitness in the world won't make slow guys fast.

For most of the league and all of the championship we could not handle pace. Longford troubled us with pace, Kildare and Clare destroyed us for pace. We couldn't keep up with them without fouling them and we couldn't get away from them when we had the ball. I believe that if we were the fittest team in the country this year it would have made very little difference to our fortunes.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: The Monument Road on August 02, 2017, 12:31:54 PM
time for nominations
. Nominations are futile as IMO the next manager has already been decided upon. It will be interesting to see what club nominates the Ex Louth football manager.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: portlaoisekid on August 02, 2017, 01:17:59 PM
Who is that?
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: portlaoisekid on August 02, 2017, 01:24:05 PM
good god
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on August 02, 2017, 01:24:20 PM
Who is that?

Colin Kelly steps down as Louth manager following Longford defeat

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Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Unison on August 02, 2017, 02:13:24 PM
Kelly?  Someone on this forum else said that Mick Dempsey was the next manager. I think there is a bit of kite flying going on here.

Having made repeated disastrous appointments in the past, surely the CB are doing to consult before they make another bad decision.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on August 02, 2017, 03:22:09 PM
lets hope gerry leaves us with some form of legacy because he hasnt been great at the top job
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Unlaoised on August 02, 2017, 04:35:45 PM
Colm Kelly is a strong rumour doing the rounds...Story is he is mad for the Job...
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: redsetanta on August 02, 2017, 04:42:35 PM
Stability is what's needed no another fly by manager.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on August 02, 2017, 05:02:08 PM
Colm Kelly is a strong rumour doing the rounds...Story is he is mad for the Job...
Is it Colm Kelly from St. Joseph's or Colin Kelly, former Louth manager you mean?
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on August 02, 2017, 05:21:29 PM
colm kelly my arse ,his love of laois thats why he wants the job,local man young and energetic  save money in process thats way forward
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Unison on August 02, 2017, 06:01:58 PM
Is it Colm Or Colin?
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Andy06 on August 02, 2017, 09:24:11 PM
I heard the Colin Kelly story myself, that the job is pretty much his. Not really sure what to make of it though. I'd be doubtful of the rumour on the basis I hadn't heard anything about interviews taking place.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on August 02, 2017, 10:28:52 PM
If Gerry and the officials pick someone like Colin Kelly and don't interview all people mentioned locally or that are nominated this will cause a lot of trouble
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: portlaoisekid on August 03, 2017, 08:40:31 AM
What link does Kelly have with the CB or someone on it ?, because its obvious his name hasn't been pulled out of thin air.

If true , This all sounds like a inside job of the highest order.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: High Fielder on August 03, 2017, 09:46:32 AM
I have no interest in another failed inter county manager either. If jobs are given on the basis of who you know, then there's no place for these people on a County Board. I'd rather give one of our own a chance. Clubs need to vote against this sort of stuff
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: redsetanta on August 03, 2017, 10:07:41 AM
Well it's about time the clubs showed a bit of balls and stood up against this. Club executives should be getting their mandate from their club. Time to act is now!
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 03, 2017, 10:29:38 AM
BallyroanAbbey have nominated Clancy, but have stipulated a preference for a locally based candidate.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: The Monument Road on August 03, 2017, 01:02:53 PM
If Gerry and the officials pick someone like Colin Kelly and don't interview all people mentioned locally or that are nominated this will cause a lot of trouble
People MENTIONED LOCALLY AND ON THIS FORUM cant be interviewed.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on August 03, 2017, 01:09:03 PM
If Gerry and the officials pick someone like Colin Kelly and don't interview all people mentioned locally or that are nominated this will cause a lot of trouble
And the mask slips
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 03, 2017, 01:11:31 PM
I'd find it hard to believe the Colin Kelly rumour. It'd be a very difficult sell for Gerry & co.
Something they might do as a last resort, but not as a fait accompli this early in the process.
Don't believe it myself.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on August 03, 2017, 03:01:01 PM
john sugru is another who would be an ideal candidate young trained kerry lives local and im sure the lads would respect him to he hasnt been mentioned much but could be a very good man and has delivered workshops for laois GAA
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: welcomehome on August 04, 2017, 11:30:38 AM
I see where fergal byron...donie norton michael murphy who was manager of the heritage this three-man committee have being selected  in picking the new laois manager....
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Heshs Umpire on August 04, 2017, 12:49:22 PM
I see where fergal byron...donie norton michael murphy who was manager of the heritage this three-man committee have being selected  in picking the new laois manager....
Good luck to them. It's a big responsibility getting this one right. Personally I'd like to see a young Laois manager get it. Any of the names being mentioned here, Clancy, Conway, Higgins could be worth a try. Mick Lawlor is also a name I'd like to see in the mix, if he were interested.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Unison on August 04, 2017, 01:02:21 PM
I suspect that Mick Lawlor would love to be involved at some level. It has to be someone who sees this job as a long term project i.e. building a new team of players who are committed to playing for the county. Looking at the likes of Portarlington last night, alone, I think there is some young talent that can be worked with.

I hope Fergal and co. come up with the right man. They should talk to all concerned parties, current players, ex-players, coaches around the county, possibly even some supporters.

I would prefer that a committed Laois man with innovative ideas got the job. But if it has to be an outsider, then so be it.

No pressure on Fergal and co., but get us the right man!!!!

Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: portlaoisekid on August 04, 2017, 03:21:56 PM
Don't envy the groups task to find a manager .

Is there money there to fund a top class mgt team?
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: High Fielder on August 04, 2017, 03:56:34 PM
If there is don't waste it. Keep it for when we have a talented and dedicated crop. This group aren't it.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Giovanni on August 04, 2017, 04:07:33 PM
An interesting and maybe reasonable way to look at it.  This group have had a lot of resources fired at them over the last 5 or 6 years and it could be said that they have not made the best of it.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: High Fielder on August 04, 2017, 04:31:33 PM
It has taken me a long time to realise that we don't have the players. We have some, but not enough. We have a number of talented players who would have been superstars years ago but they don't work hard enough. Let's wait until we have them and do the best we can locally with what we've got. No point getting too excited
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 04, 2017, 04:41:10 PM
It has taken me a long time to realise that we don't have the players. We have some, but not enough. We have a number of talented players who would have been superstars years ago but they don't work hard enough. Let's wait until we have them and do the best we can locally with what we've got. No point getting too excited

So do we just stay in Division 4? Falling further and further behind? Diminishing interest year upon year from prospective young players, supporters and sponsors?
Do we pull out of IC football competitions?

Bizarre way of looking at things.

The best 35/36 in the county at any given time deserve whatever resources are available at that particular time.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Unison on August 04, 2017, 04:49:38 PM
It certainly is a funny attitude. If we don't put resources in at adult level then young players will question the purpose of playing at underage level. Ridiculous.

Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Unison on August 04, 2017, 04:54:10 PM
It is all the more reason to think long term when appointing a new man to the job. It must be someone who is charged with bring through what ever young talent we have and building a team over the years.

Perhaps this new manager should asked to work closely with those who run the underage setup in the county.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: High Fielder on August 04, 2017, 05:07:06 PM
It has taken me a long time to realise that we don't have the players. We have some, but not enough. We have a number of talented players who would have been superstars years ago but they don't work hard enough. Let's wait until we have them and do the best we can locally with what we've got. No point getting too excited

So do we just stay in Division 4? Falling further and further behind? Diminishing interest year upon year from prospective young players, supporters and sponsors?
Do we pull out of IC football competitions?

Bizarre way of looking at things.

The best 35/36 in the county at any given time deserve whatever resources are available at that particular time.
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What do you think has been happening the last few years? Good luck flogging that dead horse.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: High Fielder on August 04, 2017, 05:09:40 PM
It certainly is a funny attitude. If we don't put resources in at adult level then young players will question the purpose of playing at underage level. Ridiculous.

As opposed to putting young players into a panel that are not good enough and just blend in. Which is what we're doing now. Even more ridiculous
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 04, 2017, 05:18:56 PM
1) At what point do we decide that *bing* now our players are good enough to deserve being prepared properly
2) What exactly are we going to judge this good enough against?
3) If we produce some good minor or U21 players over the next few years do we refuse to allow them to join the senior panel? In case they would be cross contaminated like!
4) What players are going to commit endless hours representing YOUR county during this "resource-less" period?

Mental. Stupid. Unbecoming. Ill-informed. (Take your pick)
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: High Fielder on August 04, 2017, 05:24:32 PM
Get off your high horse. I think they're not good enough, and do you know what, results and league standing support that view point. You don't have to agree with me, and in all honesty I couldn't give two f**ks whether you do or don't. But don't dare brandish me or talk down to me. Don't even try, because you wouldn't dare do it to my face. Now settle yourself down
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 04, 2017, 05:34:27 PM
You are talking shite. There is no sense in what you are saying and it is impossible to implement without falling off the face of intercounty football forever.

And finally,
I addressed your suggestion, not you.
I don't know anything about you, and don't want you.

Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: High Fielder on August 04, 2017, 05:39:58 PM
There was no need for your tone or your condescending comments. That's a few times you've seen fit to rattle me but it ends now. I won't be spoken down to by a keyboard bully
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Giovanni on August 04, 2017, 05:48:26 PM
There will be a limited supply of resources available for the preparation of teams over say a 10 year period. It is true that this amount is not fixed (for example if the team was successful, more resources would be available) but, in any case, the amount is limited.

High Fielder has raised the possibility of an alternative to the strategy of simply putting as much money as possible into the team in any given year.

I think this is reasonable. If, for example, you think that the current bunch of players have not delivered and are not likely to deliver (which is a reasonable way to think given the last few years) and, at the same time, you see a bunch of talented 14-18 year olds coming through, would it not be reasonable to pull back a little on the funding of the senior team and to nurture the young lads. When they start coming through, you will have assembled a war chest of resources that would allow these good young lads to compete with the bigger counties.

I don't think ideas like that should be entirely dismissed. It's not to suggest that the Senior Team doesn't need a manager or doesn't need any resources but maybe priorities could be readjusted a little for a few years.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 04, 2017, 05:57:01 PM
There was no need for your tone or your condescending comments. That's a few times you've seen fit to rattle me but it ends now. I won't be spoken down to by a keyboard bully

Oh right ye? I'll await further developments on this.

There will be a limited supply of resources available for the preparation of teams over say a 10 year period. It is true that this amount is not fixed (for example if the team was successful, more resources would be available) but, in any case, the amount is limited.

High Fielder has raised the possibility of an alternative to the strategy of simply putting as much money as possible into the team in any given year.

I think this is reasonable. If, for example, you think that the current bunch of players have not delivered and are not likely to deliver (which is a reasonable way to think given the last few years) and, at the same time, you see a bunch of talented 14-18 year olds coming through. Would it not be reasonable to pull back a little on the funding of the senior team and to nurture the young lads. When they start coming through, you will have assembled a war chest of resources that would allow these good young lads to compete with the bigger counties.

I don't think ideas like that should be entirely dismissed. It's not to suggest that the Senior Team doesn't need a manager or doesn't need any resources but maybe priorities could be readjusted a little for a few years.

I understand what you are saying. But it's a long time since we have over extended ourselves funding our senior teams in either code.
There is no real suggestion that U21/minor/devlopment squads are being neglected in any major way. We are progressing with improving OMP and devloping our training centre.
The evidence isn't there to suggest that we are over funding senior teams relative to other areas in need of progress. Nobody has suggested going for a Micko/Davy type figure and pissing away phenomenal sums.

To actually take a decision to willfully neglect your premier team would be sporting suicide.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: High Fielder on August 04, 2017, 06:04:13 PM
Stop forcing home points that weren't made to score points. Nobody said neglect. Just don't spend fortunes. Nobody said neglect but you keyboard warrior
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 04, 2017, 06:06:08 PM
There is some mental comments going on here, give up on the Senior Team we would well and truly be buried if that happens.  I told people on here 1 year ago Creedon had to go as apart from his football the commercial disaster of his managerial stint is brutal.    The Senior Team is your selling point for a county you have to do everything possible to make them attractive to fans,  young players coming through.  I am truly terrified we are heading down the Offaly Road of having a fantastic county ground and a team not fit to grace it.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 04, 2017, 06:07:54 PM
Stop forcing home points that weren't made to score points. Nobody said neglect. Just don't spend fortunes. Nobody said neglect but you keyboard warrior

I'll make whatever points I like, however I like!

And please don't call me names from behind a computer screen. There's a name for that, but I can't remember it ::)

And btw the definition of "neglect" is "to fail to care for properly". Not putting the best possible set up in charge of your premier team is "neglect".
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: High Fielder on August 04, 2017, 06:19:54 PM
And I didn't say that either. I said don't spend fortunes on a panel that are failing. When you try to mince someone at least do it properly little boy
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 04, 2017, 06:23:52 PM
And I didn't say that either. I said don't spend fortunes on a panel that are failing. When you try to mince someone at least do it properly little boy

Keyboard warrior?
Little boy?

Go talk to someone would ya.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: High Fielder on August 04, 2017, 06:26:48 PM
Stop taking people out of context. You do it a lot. It's poor form. You didn't get away with it this time.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Tony on August 04, 2017, 07:27:10 PM
Lads, there's a private messaging service on GAA boards, why not go in there and call each other names and give the rest of us a break .

In fairness, I'm no stranger to arguments on here but at least I'm always right  ;).

Calm it down anyway the both of ye, it's just opinions and opinions are fair game whatever they are. Now settle, grab a pint and enjoy the long weekend.

 

Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 04, 2017, 07:33:10 PM
Stop taking people out of context. You do it a lot. It's poor form. You didn't get away with it this time.

Was going to leave it, but no I won't!

You were wrong about Creedon, and refused to accept it for months. You are wrong again!
You are talking in random generalities and there are huge holes in what you are saying- but hey don't dare discuss the flaws in some one else's ideas.....on a discussion board.....heaven forbid!!

Other nonsense ramblings that come to mind;

Suggesting Mick Dempsey- ye I'd say he's waiting by the phone.
Drinking alcohol would show up in players "samples"
The CB should suspend the players who were drinking
You are going to stop contributing financially to Laois GAA until you find out who the drinkers are (how is that investigation proceeding for you btw?!)

Calling people "keyboard warriors", "little boy" and a few weeks ago someone else was a "clown".

You are a fabulous contributor! Keep it up!
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 04, 2017, 07:33:54 PM
Stop taking people out of context. You do it a lot. It's poor form. You didn't get away with it this time.

Oh no, are you on the way over?! :D
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on August 04, 2017, 08:32:03 PM
Wow, that escalated quickly.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on August 04, 2017, 10:28:50 PM
Wahoo and I wasn't involved in the argument for once,, fight fight fight,, on a positive not I like the committee that's in place for picking the manager although I would have liked Donie  norton also involved in the team set up I like him  and the way Heath toppled stradbally
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: OTF on August 05, 2017, 03:23:20 PM
1) At what point do we decide that *bing* now our players are good enough to deserve being prepared properly
2) What exactly are we going to judge this good enough against?
3) If we produce some good minor or U21 players over the next few years do we refuse to allow them to join the senior panel? In case they would be cross contaminated like!
4) What players are going to commit endless hours representing YOUR county during this "resource-less" period?

Mental. Stupid. Unbecoming. Ill-informed. (Take your pick)

Just because someone holds a different point of view should they have to put up this level of abuse ???
This forum is rapidly growing down hill. Hogan Stand with all its faults has moderators.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 05, 2017, 04:43:31 PM
Stall the ball OTF

There are a fair few lads on here who are condescending to say the least.  Keyser is well entitled to stand his ground.   

If we wanted to be on the Hogan Stand we would be there.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: OTF on August 05, 2017, 05:44:48 PM
Stall the ball OTF

There are a fair few lads on here who are condescending to say the least.  Keyser is well entitled to stand his ground.   

If we wanted to be on the Hogan Stand we would be there.

Standing your ground.....O !!!
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 05, 2017, 06:49:30 PM
YAWN
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Giovanni on August 05, 2017, 09:41:59 PM
Keyser and High Fielder are easily two of the most interesting posters on here.

Personally, I'm much more interested in reading their opinions on the football rather than on each other.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 06, 2017, 01:48:03 AM
1) At what point do we decide that *bing* now our players are good enough to deserve being prepared properly
2) What exactly are we going to judge this good enough against?
3) If we produce some good minor or U21 players over the next few years do we refuse to allow them to join the senior panel? In case they would be cross contaminated like!
4) What players are going to commit endless hours representing YOUR county during this "resource-less" period?

Mental. Stupid. Unbecoming. Ill-informed. (Take your pick)

Just because someone holds a different point of view should they have to put up this level of abuse ???
This forum is rapidly growing down hill. Hogan Stand with all its faults has moderators.

Just to be clear (and it may well not be clear from what I wrote) that last line was regarding the opinion stated, not the poster. I know nothing of the poster.
The line
Mental. Stupid. Unbecoming. Ill-informed. (Take your pick)
was in relation to the opinion offered.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: OTF on August 06, 2017, 06:31:40 PM
1) At what point do we decide that *bing* now our players are good enough to deserve being prepared properly
2) What exactly are we going to judge this good enough against?
3) If we produce some good minor or U21 players over the next few years do we refuse to allow them to join the senior panel? In case they would be cross contaminated like!
4) What players are going to commit endless hours representing YOUR county during this "resource-less" period?

Mental. Stupid. Unbecoming. Ill-informed. (Take your pick)

Just because someone holds a different point of view should they have to put up this level of abuse ???
This forum is rapidly growing down hill. Hogan Stand with all its faults has moderators.

Just to be clear (and it may well not be clear from what I wrote) that last line was regarding the opinion stated, not the poster. I know nothing of the poster.
The line
Mental. Stupid. Unbecoming. Ill-informed. (Take your pick)
was in relation to the opinion offered.

Ok point taken.
Agree with Giovanni I enjoy both of ye most of the time.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on August 07, 2017, 12:15:53 AM
Quote
Ok point taken.
Agree with Giovanni I enjoy both of ye most of the time.

Me too, funny thing is you are both usually very good and well informed posters, people who make this forum interesting so this silly stuff is doing neither ye or the rest of us any favours.
In fairness to the rest of the posters here and for the continued success of this forum could you please continue this kind of stuff on the private message system that's available here as Tony suggested.

It's the constant lack of respect for other peoples opinions that drives lads away from forums like this and I certainly don't want that to happen here as its the only way supporters can get together and express opinions on the games in our county that we all love. There are no moderators here so we depend on the common sense and respect of everyone here to keep this place in order.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: redsetanta on August 07, 2017, 01:55:12 AM
Well said Junior.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on August 07, 2017, 03:09:31 AM
Agree but a lot of lads make no sense her :)
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on August 07, 2017, 05:21:16 AM
Agree but a lot of lads make no sense her :)
You're some mule
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 07, 2017, 08:36:07 AM
After all that Don
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: The Monument Road on August 07, 2017, 10:07:29 AM
Agree but a lot of lads make no sense her :)
You're some mule
The offspring of a donkey and a horse (strictly, a male donkey/jackass and a female horse/mare), typically sterile and used as a beast of burden.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on August 07, 2017, 12:06:54 PM
Agree but a lot of lads make no sense her :)
You're some mule
The offspring of a donkey and a horse (strictly, a male donkey/jackass and a female horse/mare), typically sterile and used as a beast of burden.
With a bit of luck this particular mule is also sterile.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 07, 2017, 12:22:38 PM
I might be missing the point, but if every difference of opinion is settled via PM then I don't think there will be much posted. It's dead enough as it is, particularly from a hurling POV.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: High Fielder on August 07, 2017, 01:01:27 PM
Nobody minds an exchange of views but calling people's posts, and by extension them, idiotic, stupid and mental, is too much. I've been guilty of it myself under provocation but not straight off the bat. I don't intend on letting it happen again as its bullying at its most base level. These things would never be done to your face.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 07, 2017, 01:12:09 PM
Nobody minds an exchange of views but calling people's posts, and by extension them, idiotic, stupid and mental, is too much. I've been guilty of it myself under provocation but not straight off the bat. I don't intend on letting it happen again as its bullying at its most base level. These things would never be done to your face.

Make whatever extensions you want!  Out of curiousity- how are you going to stop it?!
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: blueandwhite1 on August 07, 2017, 05:39:58 PM
I might be missing the point, but if every difference of opinion is settled via PM then I don't think there will be much posted. It's dead enough as it is, particularly from a hurling POV.

The football forums have become infantile slagging forums and lads with agendas having a go at each other. Particularly since one or two, everyone will know who I mean, have become frequent posters. There is no useful information coming through. I would rather have a civilized, quiet hurling forum than read the drivel that is posted on the football equivalent.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on August 07, 2017, 07:54:43 PM
To be fair, blueandwhite1, most posters here are very well informed and post stuff that is very interesting to read. Lets not cause a divide between the hurling and football forums as we all want the same thing and that is success. I do take your point though, there has been a bit of silliness here lately and I'm sure readers from other counties who visit here must be having a great laugh at our expense.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 07, 2017, 08:42:35 PM
Can see them rushing on here alright  :-\
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on August 08, 2017, 08:48:05 AM
I'm sure readers from other counties who visit here must be having a great laugh at our expense.
Ah lads.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: clonadmad on August 08, 2017, 10:13:15 AM
Infantile carry on,these past few pages from some I expected more from and some I didn't.

The reality is that noone from outside the county bar a low ranking expense hound will touch this county with a shitty stick,we are a div 4 county with the attendant structural failings.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: redsetanta on August 08, 2017, 10:44:17 AM
Total sea change in Laois between hurling and football right now. The hurlers a much better prospect for any potential managers. Footballers will need a Laois man for the job as the post will only attract a fly by night manager similar to the likes of Teddy McCarthy with the hurlers a few years ago and we certainly don't want to go down that route.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on August 08, 2017, 12:17:44 PM
I agree, a local guy with passion for Laois is what we need right now, another year and another failed outside manager would be a total disaster.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: blueandwhite1 on August 08, 2017, 01:28:36 PM
The most important question we need to be asking in my view is not who the next senior manager will be, but what group of people will take responsibility for underage development and player pathways in Laois, and how will the county board resource them. Personally I think this needs to be a mix of former stars who are respected (Clancy, Tom Kelly, Beano, Joe Higgins etc) and a few outsiders that have overseen developmental progress in other counties. Perhaps someone from Tyrone or Dublin for example.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Laoisguy on August 08, 2017, 03:33:43 PM
The most important question we need to be asking in my view is not who the next senior manager will be, but what group of people will take responsibility for underage development and player pathways in Laois, and how will the county board resource them. Personally I think this needs to be a mix of former stars who are respected (Clancy, Tom Kelly, Beano, Joe Higgins etc) and a few outsiders that have overseen developmental progress in other counties. Perhaps someone from Tyrone or Dublin for example.

In complete agreement....this is imperative and a huge part of the strategic committee review
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Unlaoised on August 08, 2017, 04:26:18 PM
Not sure about the three intrusted to pick the next manager...Byron yes but the other two??
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: ILikeStrawberryJam on August 08, 2017, 10:45:25 PM
Colm ORourke made some good points last night on the bigger picture.

Joe canning article was a good read too  ..

There has to be a tiered championship

Would take a while to bed in but we would wonder then why it wasnt always there.

Local man for the laois jod and a ten year plan to try and make us competitive again ..
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: blueandwhite1 on August 10, 2017, 11:45:13 AM
Colm ORourke made some good points last night on the bigger picture.

Joe canning article was a good read too  ..

There has to be a tiered championship

Would take a while to bed in but we would wonder then why it wasnt always there.

Local man for the laois jod and a ten year plan to try and make us competitive again ..

Yep, but in a tiered championship we are probably in the lowest tier right now!
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Unison on August 10, 2017, 11:50:58 AM
Colm ORourke made some good points last night on the bigger picture.

Joe canning article was a good read too  ..

There has to be a tiered championship

Would take a while to bed in but we would wonder then why it wasnt always there.

Local man for the laois jod and a ten year plan to try and make us competitive again ..

Yep, but in a tiered championship we are probably in the lowest tier right now!

Maybe, but that gives us the opportunity to build a new team.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: OTF on August 10, 2017, 12:40:43 PM
Colm ORourke made some good points last night on the bigger picture.

Joe canning article was a good read too  ..

There has to be a tiered championship

Would take a while to bed in but we would wonder then why it wasnt always there.

Local man for the laois jod and a ten year plan to try and make us competitive again ..

Yep, but in a tiered championship we are probably in the lowest tier right now!

In county equivalent
Junior B
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Uisce on August 10, 2017, 01:00:02 PM
Colm ORourke made some good points last night on the bigger picture.

Joe canning article was a good read too  ..

There has to be a tiered championship

Would take a while to bed in but we would wonder then why it wasnt always there.

Local man for the laois jod and a ten year plan to try and make us competitive again ..

Yep, but in a tiered championship we are probably in the lowest tier right now!

In county equivalent
Junior B

Ideal, lads be expected to have a few pints before a game then!  ;)
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: OTF on August 10, 2017, 01:25:27 PM
Colm ORourke made some good points last night on the bigger picture.

Joe canning article was a good read too  ..

There has to be a tiered championship

Would take a while to bed in but we would wonder then why it wasnt always there.

Local man for the laois jod and a ten year plan to try and make us competitive again ..

Yep, but in a tiered championship we are probably in the lowest tier right now!

In county equivalent
Junior B

Ideal, lads be expected to have a few pints before a game then!  ;)

Never thought of that very good
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Butch Cassidy on August 10, 2017, 01:30:16 PM
There should be 8 groups of 4. Top 2 go to play for 'Sam' and bottom 2 play for 'Paidi'. Last 16 games open draw with first playing second and played on a knockout basis. Therefore everyone has the chance to play for the big one.

Both finals to be played on the same day with u17 final taking out  of Croker.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on August 10, 2017, 03:15:21 PM
what have these last few points got to do with the laois managers job???
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Unlaoised on August 11, 2017, 03:45:25 PM
what have these last few points got to do with the laois managers job???

Good point.....

I hear the Colm Kelly(Louth) rumours have died down ...The Panel favor a Laois man!
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on August 11, 2017, 06:04:29 PM
Thank God for that....
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: OTF on August 11, 2017, 07:01:11 PM
what have these last few points got to do with the laois managers job???

Job description
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: TheGiantSquid on August 12, 2017, 11:54:51 AM
John Sugrue is nailed on for the position it seems, my good mole in CB told me!! Interesting appointment to say the least.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Tony on August 12, 2017, 03:57:35 PM
I won't believe it 'till I see it; way too many rumours were off the mark this year.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on August 12, 2017, 05:22:45 PM
You could be right he has done a lot with the Heath this year too and Donnie is on the commitee,,, if it's a laois man at the minute there's one man for me on what I'm seeing
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: SCFC on August 12, 2017, 06:37:03 PM
Second half was decent enough alright.
Looks like the weasel might have to come up with something else to keep his club senior!🙄
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 12, 2017, 07:59:21 PM
Don't know where your getting that squid,  they may like him but not sure the clubs will ratify an outside appointment.  Most of the clubs want a Laois man for the job, don't think any senior club nominated him for job.  I don't think the executive would like their nomination getting voted down, if they nominate Sugrue this is quite likely to happen. Maybe the County Board are braver than I think, but it would show really poor reading of the game within Laois.

Honestly couldn't see why people would have a problem with Sugrue?
Seems to be respected, has as good a record as anyone working within Laois, has a professional qualification that somewhat informs preparation etc.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on August 12, 2017, 09:21:08 PM
Sugrue be mad to touch that job.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Unison on August 12, 2017, 09:23:43 PM
Second half was decent enough alright.
Looks like the weasel might have to come up with something else to keep his club senior!🙄

 ;) ;) Very Good. It'll be interesting to see what transpires.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on August 12, 2017, 10:43:11 PM
Joint management with surgu and one of our own??
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Target Man on August 13, 2017, 01:48:26 AM
John Sugrue is capable, but why this county continually ignores it's own verges on idiotic.  Malachy McNulty  is tearing it up with Portlaoise this year, Clancy is doing a fine job with Graigue and there is Joe Higgins and Chris Conway.  Why in gods name to we continually go for someone who can never have the same passion for Laois Football no matter how hard they try.   Could you actually imagine Kerry in this position considering someone from Laois.  The Laois job is much more than a managers job at the moment it's going to a P R exercise among the clubs and sponsors.  This is not about a coach or manager this is actually about someone reigniting the fire in Laois Football.

It is most definitely about a manager. Why are the candidates you pointed out better than Sugrue?

If the only reason you can give is they were born in Laois....
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Tony on August 13, 2017, 12:02:12 PM
John Sugrue is practically a Laois man at this stage and has a far better CV compared with some Laois men up for the job. That's just the truth of it. I'd be happy with him taking over. He also knows a lot about s&c, has a good managerial track record and is based in Laois. You say we gamble on outsiders ballyroanabu but lets not pretend Clancy or Higgins is not a major gamble too.

I was up for a Laois man taking over unless a very good candidate shows up. If Sugrue is interested, I'd choose him hands down.

And enough of the anti billy sheehan talk. He's more passionate about Laois than almost anyone out there. We'd do very well to have him involved in some capacity.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Tony on August 13, 2017, 04:20:48 PM
Billy Sheehan is at every Laois match, home and away. Not only that, he also shows up with his kids togged out head to toe in Laois gear. He was absolutely passionate about Laois and still is. I remember being out in the same bar as almost the entire Laois squad a couple of years back after a defeat in the championship. Most were drinking and trying to forget about it but Billy was depressed in a corner. Tried to talk to him - he was inconsolable over the defeat. That's how much it means to him. I wouldn't pick him as manager yet but as I say, to have him involved in some capacity would be great in my opinion.

Listen Ballyroan, if the perfect Laois manager existed he'd be in the role. There's no anti-Laois bias IN LAOIS. Many Laois men have got the role over the years - so I'm not sure what you're on about to be honest. If I was to pick a Laois man it'd be Malachy, hands down. But does he even want it?
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 13, 2017, 04:47:15 PM
Tony you are deluded there has always been an anti Laois bias in Laois.  Different Clubs are always scheming against each other, If one springs to mind in the recent past Pat Roe good enough for 2 or 3 other counties they could not be bothered with him here.  How else could TOF get a job here ran out of Galway and yet he pitches up here, no questions asked.  Billy Sheehan is not from Laois and never will be and let him cry for whoever he wants.  He did not even know where EMO was when he first came,  He is some man for the Laois matches considering his with Cork.  If any of you deluded chaps wants to believe Billy Sheehan is a Laois Man then continue on.  But I am sure I can dig out his Stacks video.   He also is also a mad Liverpool fan does that make him a scouser.  Like before Tony you are far too close to the county board to have a neutral point of view.  This time last year you were all about Creedon.   
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: TheGiantSquid on August 13, 2017, 05:24:29 PM
You have a vendetta against Billy Sheehan Mr. Scully!!
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Tony on August 13, 2017, 06:40:47 PM
Some serious nonsense coming out of your head BallyroanAbu. Mick Lillis is practically a Laois man, Sean Dempsey is most definitely a Laois man - both recent Laois managers. If there was a clear Laois canditate he'd be in the position in a flash. The fact that we're naming Malachy McNulty as the forerunner - a young man just 2 seasons into his club managerial career - suggests definitely that we don't have clear laois candidates without risk. Come on now, common sense. Laois men don't mind a Laois man in charge, ONCE HE'S RIGHT FOR THE JOB. Enough with the conspiracy theory that we don't value other Laois men. Something boiled up in your own head there. And lay off Billy, he gave his all for this county, zero chance you'd say any of that nonsense to his face.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: ILikeStrawberryJam on August 13, 2017, 07:29:43 PM
Malachy has no interest in the Laois job.

People can be passionate about a county that werent necessarily born there

Let the county board interview the candidates .. just no mercenaries ..

Lets just get the best candidate for the job
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 13, 2017, 07:44:04 PM
If, after an interview process involving people who know what they are talking about, Sugrue appears to be a stronger candidate that the likes of McNulty, Higgins and Clancy then he should get the job.
He might technically be a Kerry man, but there is the world of difference between his situation and those on the managerial merry go round looking for handy dosh.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on August 13, 2017, 08:42:17 PM
You have a vendetta against Billy Sheehan Mr. Scully!!
I wonder why that would be, hmmmm let me think

Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 13, 2017, 09:09:12 PM
You have a vendetta against Billy Sheehan Mr. Scully!!
I wonder why that would be, hmmmm let me think

This is above the heads of many of us! Any further information forthcoming?
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 13, 2017, 10:06:22 PM
Keysee I have no faith in the interview process as they have turned up some turnips so far.

That is a fair enough point.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: oneflewoverthecuckoonest on August 13, 2017, 10:28:28 PM
I spoke with one of the 3 man interview committee, and not one person has even been pencilled in for a meeting, let alone a short list been composed. Names have been proposed, some by clubs and the teasing out process(checking out who may actually be interested will commence soon).

keyser....the mr scully reference, is because he was the ballyroan guy running round behind Clancy with a tactics board last year, much to the mirth of many, suspect the guy is star struck(if you can be) by Clancy.

I tend to believe that John Sugrue's record within Laois is far from hectic, just my opinion.

Billy Sheehan is a marmite character...I felt he gave it his all when in the blue and white and fulfilled a disciplined role when with McNulty...........he was a coach with Cork footballers in 2017, and whether we like it or not, Cork footballers are much higher up the football food chain than Laois, and evidently he was appreciated in Cork.

my preferred team, would be Mick Dempsey as manager, with Clancy, Conway and Sheehan(fitness) as assistants/coaches.........Dempsey with more experience could take the heat as manager and the others as younger bucks could learn the ropes.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 13, 2017, 10:41:06 PM
my preferred team, would be Mick Dempsey as manager, with Clancy, Conway and Sheehan(fitness) as assistants/coaches.........Dempsey with more experience could take the heat as manager and the others as younger bucks could learn the ropes.

That would be absolutely fantastic....but why would Dempsey take the job?
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on August 13, 2017, 11:22:53 PM
Giant eejit not squib give me the difference between a coach and a manager,,???
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on August 13, 2017, 11:29:13 PM
Also getting personal by trying to name someone who has valid points is a cowardly act name yourself you giant gimp/ squid with no foundation,, This evenings games ballyabu yee we're a shadow of yereselves unfit over weight totally different from what I expect and seen ,, killeshin we're full value for there win and will rattle my neighbours,,a lot of good ties ahead in two weeks time Killeen for me we're lucky but will progress against a very bad ballyroan side ,, no one will beat my portlaoise 
Title: W
Post by: Bud Wiser on August 13, 2017, 11:30:51 PM
my preferred team, would be Mick Dempsey as manager, with Clancy, Conway and Sheehan(fitness) as assistants/coaches.........Dempsey with more experience could take the heat as manager and the others as younger bucks could learn the ropes.

That would be absolutely fantastic....but why would Dempsey take the job?
Why would anyone want the job?
Title: Re: W
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 13, 2017, 11:51:11 PM
my preferred team, would be Mick Dempsey as manager, with Clancy, Conway and Sheehan(fitness) as assistants/coaches.........Dempsey with more experience could take the heat as manager and the others as younger bucks could learn the ropes.

That would be absolutely fantastic....but why would Dempsey take the job?
Why would anyone want the job?

There is quite the difference between ANYONE wanting to test themselves at intercounty level and Mick Dempsey. I'm not going to bother expanding further on that.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 14, 2017, 04:18:12 AM
I spoke with one of the 3 man interview committee, and not one person has even been pencilled in for a meeting, let alone a short list been composed. Names have been proposed, some by clubs and the teasing out process(checking out who may actually be interested will commence soon).

keyser....the mr scully reference, is because he was the ballyroan guy running round behind Clancy with a tactics board last year, much to the mirth of many, suspect the guy is star struck(if you can be) by Clancy.

I tend to believe that John Sugrue's record within Laois is far from hectic, just my opinion.

Billy Sheehan is a marmite character...I felt he gave it his all when in the blue and white and fulfilled a disciplined role when with McNulty...........he was a coach with Cork footballers in 2017, and whether we like it or not, Cork footballers are much higher up the football food chain than Laois, and evidently he was appreciated in Cork.


my preferred team, would be Mick Dempsey as manager, with Clancy, Conway and Sheehan(fitness) as assistants/coaches.........Dempsey with more experience could take the heat as manager and the others as younger bucks could learn the ropes.

I got a little annoyed by this, but then realised my only crime is to wear my heart on my sleeve.  Most people on here have a fair idea who I am and I have never shied away from it.   I have also said I think Clancy is something special,  I expected nothing more than ridicule(my wife found the star struck thing funny) however I suppose I have to find courage in my convictions when it does not exactly go with the crowd.    Maybe the same people who thought of me with mirth were those dozy f**kers who ratified TOF, Lillis and Creedon.  But good luck to you on getting Mick Dempsey ratified.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Giovanni on August 14, 2017, 09:15:25 AM
It's the smart men that see the "mirth" in people trying to do things properly at club level that make this county what it is. Division 4.

I don't know too much about what's happening at club level but these kind of personalised comments that denigrate people in this way are sickening.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Joeythelips on August 14, 2017, 10:09:03 AM
What is the situation regarding this? From what I read in club match reports it sounds like there are some decent your players coming through at club level. Im not saying they are ready for inter county step up but the least they deserve is the next Laois management team to be taking a look at them in action during the championship, clubs like Ballylinan, Portarlington, Ballyfin and Rosenallis to name a few sound like they have young players with potential.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: portlaoisekid on August 23, 2017, 08:55:25 AM
Any word on the new manager?

So many names being mentioned but it seems the word is that its a Laois man who the CB want to appoint.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on August 23, 2017, 09:14:44 AM
im hearing different Paul Curran and John Evans both good CVS looking hot along with john sugru,experience im hearing comming against clancy and the lesser big names
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: GAA-SMART on August 23, 2017, 09:22:13 AM
Curran will hang around Plunkets for another year , he only wants 1 job and if he comes to Laois unlikely he will get the Dubs when he wants it, besides, he would be getting in or around the same up there than what we could be paying him and he doesnt have to travel.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on August 23, 2017, 09:23:25 AM
Billy has it wrapped up.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: GAA-SMART on August 23, 2017, 10:05:50 AM
Billy Sheehan? The barrel obviously has been scrapped no end
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on August 23, 2017, 10:07:27 AM
dunno i always found him annoying and i think the players will to no doubting his passion for laois i would never question that but as a manager is he the person to pull us all together lads i dont know,selector maybe but manager for me no,paul curran i find interesting but im sure the three lads will find the most suitable candidate
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Tony on August 23, 2017, 11:33:01 AM
I like Billy and I'd like to see him involved with the setup but not as manager yet.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: SCFC on August 23, 2017, 12:31:37 PM
Anyone who says they're hearing this lad or that lad is bullshitting.
The committee haven't got anywhere near that stage yet.
An internal appointment is more likely though from what I've heard.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: portlaoisekid on August 23, 2017, 01:17:58 PM
Have they a time frame in place for the new mgr to be in place ?

As for Billy I wouldn't mind him on board, I haven't heard his name mentioned around yet . If was a betting man I'd say it'll be Clancy or Conway as new manager.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Tony on August 23, 2017, 01:35:06 PM
I think Don was having a laugh about mentioning Billy as manager, to be fair. He won't be manager.

It'd be good to get a manager in before early September. That's when you really need to set out your stall and plan for the year ahead. Ideally the lads need to be set a personal winter training programme, starting in October.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Tony on August 23, 2017, 05:12:20 PM
My preference would be in this order:

Sugrue,
M. McNulty,
Clancy,
Conway,
Curran,
Evans.

I don't believe other names are realistic, like Mick Dempsey or Billy Sheehan.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Uisce on August 24, 2017, 09:31:12 AM
Banty leaving Wexford puts another name in the hat.. one which I would not be surprised with!
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: redsetanta on August 24, 2017, 09:37:07 AM
Banty is just a gun for hire at this stage. No good to Laois!
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: GAA-SMART on August 24, 2017, 09:38:16 AM
Banty is just a gun for hire at this stage. No good to Laois!

Unlikely, he left Wexford because of a 2 hr 15m drive without traffic, to get to Portloaise is about 1hr 55m drive, doubt he is ditching Wexford over 20 minutes
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Tony on August 24, 2017, 10:16:23 AM
We need someone who the players and fans respect, so that rules Banty out.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: OTF on August 24, 2017, 10:27:18 AM
We need someone who the players and fans respect, so that rules Banty out.

I know  what you'r saying Tony ...... but does that person actually exist.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Uisce on August 24, 2017, 10:58:18 AM
Banty is just a gun for hire at this stage. No good to Laois!

Unlikely, he left Wexford because of a 2 hr 15m drive without traffic, to get to Portloaise is about 1hr 55m drive, doubt he is ditching Wexford over 20 minutes

I wouldn't believe that as a reason, Eamon Kelly left Offaly because of work commitments, a couple of months later he was Laois manager. I wouldn't want Banty but it's just one I wouldn't be surprised with.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 24, 2017, 11:01:22 AM
Banty main area of work is Dublin I am sure he has an apartment there,  would not be for me.

I think a lot of you are missing a serious point unless the Manager we appoint is capable of attracting serious financial support we are going to be very much in a promotion/relegation cycle between Div 3 & 4.  If Laois continue this cycle of mediocrity there is very little chance of attracting money.  A lot of people disagree with me on this Sugrue, McNulty are excellent coaches however Laois need far more than just one man and without financial resources we have very little in the way of a backroom setup.  We need someone capable of been (A) able to attract financial resources (B)Able to attract people to donate time (C)Have such a personality that players will actually agree to tog for Laois (D ) Challenge the County Board to step up (E) also attract the fair weather fans back its ok having people like us at matches but we do not pay the bills.  Laois Football needs some to create a feel good factor otherwise we are going to go into some cycle of dreadfulness.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 24, 2017, 12:45:26 PM
I know what you're saying BA, but look at the hurlers backroom team last year- that was hardly cheap? There does seem to be some money there to spend.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: portlaoisekid on August 24, 2017, 01:26:39 PM
Will they spend it on a top class set up or waste it on a journeyman out for a quick earner??
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 24, 2017, 02:15:42 PM
Keyser I think the Hurlers had a lot of people doing it for the love of the game( which in fairness to hurling you see quite a bit of).   Maybe the money is there but if the rumoured amount Creedon got is true,  there is not that much to go round.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Unlaoised on August 24, 2017, 03:15:38 PM
Banty is in for the Fermanagh Job I think!
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 24, 2017, 04:31:40 PM
Keyser I think the Hurlers had a lot of people doing it for the love of the game( which in fairness to hurling you see quite a bit of).

Kelly, Moran, Gleeson, McConville...........
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on August 24, 2017, 10:47:11 PM
Ballyroanabu I think they are seriously good points and one of the best posts you have written,,, this isn't even a but who could do what you want ?? But I agree totally with your post
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 25, 2017, 12:26:01 AM
Will they spend it on a top class set up or waste it on a journeyman out for a quick earner??

Agree 100%. I've said it before. There are people within Laois who can manage (ala Cheddar). Spend the money on the set up, not on a figurehead.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: portlaoisekid on August 25, 2017, 09:00:30 AM
Will they spend it on a top class set up or waste it on a journeyman out for a quick earner??

Agree 100%. I've said it before. There are people within Laois who can manage (ala Cheddar). Spend the money on the set up, not on a figurehead.
If only the football side had a man like cheddar?  Then we would be flying....
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: redsetanta on August 25, 2017, 09:11:42 AM
http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/08/25/search-new-laois-football-manager-nearing-end/ (http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/08/25/search-new-laois-football-manager-nearing-end/)
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 25, 2017, 09:28:11 AM
I was going to use the Cheddar example for football, always felt he was in the right direction but should have stayed clear of being manager more like a CEO of the Hurling Board.  He is a great example of the way forward.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Butch Cassidy on August 25, 2017, 09:54:49 AM
Any update on who the foofball manager is going to be? Heard Sheehan has been at the recent games and even taking notes
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on August 25, 2017, 12:07:38 PM
no word it all seems very quiet at the minute
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: portlaoisekid on August 25, 2017, 01:05:10 PM
I've heard it twice in the last hour that Chris Conway has the job.

Hardly a concrete gauge but still there's no smoke without fire.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: GAA-SMART on August 25, 2017, 02:22:19 PM
I've heard it twice in the last hour that Chris Conway has the job.

Hardly a concrete gauge but still there's no smoke without fire.

I'd be happy enough with that, heard there was an attempt for Ryan but i think Conway would do a good job.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Joeythelips on August 25, 2017, 02:45:55 PM
Whoever it is needs a serious backroom team, hope they give it to a Laois man along the lines of the names suggested. We are in Division 4 and its not like there are host of brilliant external managers out there. Give it to a Conway, Higgins or someone of similar ilk who knows Laois football well and is passionate and will bring something new to the table, a young manager with plenty of enthusiasm and energy is needed. As I say whoever it is has a huge task on their hands but with a bit of support form players, supporters and CB we can hopefully get out of Div 4 and try and compete with likes of Meath and Kildare in Leinster.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Unison on August 25, 2017, 02:54:39 PM
I think Chris Conway would be a good choice. However, he needs to be given time to build a new team with what young talent is in the county. It would be nice to get out of Div 4 next year, but I don't think it is imperative. I would rather see 4 or 5 new players introduced and staying down, than going up with exactly the same team / panel as we have seen over the last few years. Its time to look to the future and a new team. Conway could be the man!!
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on August 25, 2017, 05:11:13 PM
chris i think is having another baby so i dont think he even went for the job im hearing billy sheehan but praying his not the manager involved maybe but not manager
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Tony on August 25, 2017, 05:22:43 PM
So many rumours, i'm just going to wait till it's announced. Kelly, Banty, Clancy, Ryan, Evans, Sugrue all strongly rumoured to be favourites. now Conway and billy. I'll we waiting for the official word.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: The Monument Road on August 25, 2017, 05:28:33 PM
chris i think is having another baby so i dont think he even went for the job im hearing billy sheehan but praying his not the manager involved maybe but not manager
Fair play 1980. Id give it to Chris but now that he is about to give birth he will be busy :D
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on August 25, 2017, 05:38:21 PM
tony think your right
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: welcomehome on August 27, 2017, 03:05:00 PM
personally i wouldnt give it to chris conway...dont think he has de right temperment for it...thats just my opinion...
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Laois fan on August 27, 2017, 04:47:59 PM
Laoistoday spotted billy sheehan watching clonaslee vs mountmelick
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: justinn on August 27, 2017, 06:24:41 PM
Billy watched the first half then headed off, maybe to watch second half of Stradbally and Arles.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on August 27, 2017, 09:53:33 PM
What have I been telling ye lads
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 27, 2017, 10:00:48 PM
What have I been telling ye lads

I don't think the current CB would have the balls to give him the job!
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on August 27, 2017, 11:06:36 PM
I don't think the clubs would vote him in and the players wouldn't listen to him either as I said as a player massive commitment but you couldn't listen to the chap
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 27, 2017, 11:27:22 PM
I don't think the clubs would vote him in and the players wouldn't listen to him either as I said as a player massive commitment but you couldn't listen to the chap
Both combined mean there is no way he will get the job.
The CB be terrified that
1) The clubs would say no & turn them into a laughing stock
2) He would be a failure & his "qualifications" for getting the job would be scrutinised in light of failure.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on August 28, 2017, 07:55:51 AM
So the clubs are finally going to grow a backbone and stand up to the CB? And THIS is what they are going to make a stand on? We're fucked as a county.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on August 28, 2017, 08:57:18 AM
john sugru could be the man
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on August 28, 2017, 08:59:44 AM
john sugru could be the man
No good, the boys on here want an inside man. The last one we had was such a success after.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 28, 2017, 08:59:57 AM
So the clubs are finally going to grow a backbone and stand up to the CB? And THIS is what they are going to make a stand on? We're fucked as a county.

I would beg to differ Don, Billy is one of the most divisive candidates out there.  I have nothing personal against Billy but it shows how out of touch the county board is to even contemplate him.  It really is not the time for Billy Sheehan to be proposed as a candidate.  I would argue his C.V is no better or worse than local candidates.  The clubs have been stewing for a row with the county board,  it's going to take a brave county board to propose Billy Sheehan as the manager.

Would Emo even vote for him? 
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on August 28, 2017, 09:02:45 AM
Which clubs are stewing for a row? Its funny that now is the time to have that row, have they been happy with how things have been going up to this point?
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 28, 2017, 09:14:36 AM
Were the clubs happy, or more likely so busy trying to keep their own shows running that they have taken their eye off the ball.   
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on August 28, 2017, 09:19:47 AM
Were the clubs happy, or more likely so busy trying to keep their own shows running that they have taken their eye off the ball.
Its great to see them finally standing up anyway. Their delegates didn't seem to have much issues with rubber stamping everything the CB put before them up to this point. it seemed all it took was mention of Billy Sheehan to rise them from their slumber. This could signal a whole new direction for the County. I for one support your uprising.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 28, 2017, 10:36:17 AM
So the clubs are finally going to grow a backbone and stand up to the CB? And THIS is what they are going to make a stand on? We're fucked as a county.

Well I do think if the infamous "Drinkgate" CB meeting hadn't have gone the way it did, myself & Tony would still be arguing over how much time a Mr. P. Creedon should get. I do think that meeting shook the CB a little, and I do think that they were happy enough to retain P. Creedon up to that point.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Faugheen on August 28, 2017, 10:52:59 AM
Billy sitting by himself on the terrace in O Moore Pk yesterday evening taking notes  ::) 8)
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on August 28, 2017, 10:53:38 AM
So the clubs are finally going to grow a backbone and stand up to the CB? And THIS is what they are going to make a stand on? We're fucked as a county.

Well I do think if the infamous "Drinkgate" CB meeting hadn't have gone the way it did, myself & Tony would still be arguing over how much time a Mr. P. Creedon should get. I do think that meeting shook the CB a little, and I do think that they were happy enough to retain P. Creedon up to that point.
One delegate telling stories with no evidence to back it up, is an uprising?
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: The Monument Road on August 28, 2017, 11:08:33 AM
Billy sitting by himself on the terrace in O Moore Pk yesterday evening taking notes  ::) 8)
I was at three different venues over the weekend and he was also at them. He is a shoe in and only needs ratification. Ratification is a 100% certainty. Also the number of candidate proposals from CLUBS yes clubs was very low. Some of the local names mentioned here like Clancy, Higgins and Chris  had no interest whatsoever. Emo ( and two other clubs) proposed Billy and he is now our new manager. Best of luck billy,
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: High Fielder on August 28, 2017, 11:11:31 AM
Well said Monument. If he gets it good luck to him. He was good enough for Cork but not the begrudgers in Laois. Some shite you have to listen to. Good luck to whoever actually wants the job and gets it.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 28, 2017, 11:40:35 AM
So the clubs are finally going to grow a backbone and stand up to the CB? And THIS is what they are going to make a stand on? We're fucked as a county.

Well I do think if the infamous "Drinkgate" CB meeting hadn't have gone the way it did, myself & Tony would still be arguing over how much time a Mr. P. Creedon should get. I do think that meeting shook the CB a little, and I do think that they were happy enough to retain P. Creedon up to that point.
One delegate telling stories with no evidence to back it up, is an uprising?

No, but several prominent delegates spoke out strongly against his reappointment. (Conway, Lawlor, Burke etc)
I honestly think the CB would have went away, conducted a "review" and come back and proposed him for reappointment if this hadn't of happened. I never mentioned anything about uprising etc but I do think those at the top are politically skilled enough to read which way the wind is blowing.
I wouldn't have thought Billy would have been acceptable to the clubs of Laois, that's why I don't think they will chance it.
The delegates above effectively stood up to the CB on reappointing Creedon, they won't chance putting a stupid appointment in front of them (not saying BS would be a stupid appointment.
I said here months ago that he is the type of character who would be ideal in the backroom, wouldn't have expected him to be given the manager's gig.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 28, 2017, 11:43:16 AM
Emo ( and two other clubs) proposed Billy and he is now our new manager. Best of luck billy,

I thought there was some fall out between Billy & Emo?
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on August 28, 2017, 11:43:43 AM
So the clubs are finally going to grow a backbone and stand up to the CB? And THIS is what they are going to make a stand on? We're fucked as a county.

Well I do think if the infamous "Drinkgate" CB meeting hadn't have gone the way it did, myself & Tony would still be arguing over how much time a Mr. P. Creedon should get. I do think that meeting shook the CB a little, and I do think that they were happy enough to retain P. Creedon up to that point.
One delegate telling stories with no evidence to back it up, is an uprising?

No, but several prominent delegates spoke out strongly against his reappointment. (Conway, Lawlor, Burke etc)
I honestly think the CB would have went away, conducted a "review" and come back and proposed him for reappointment if this hadn't of happened. I never mentioned anything about uprising etc but I do think those at the top are politically skilled enough to read which way the wind is blowing.
I wouldn't have thought Billy would have been acceptable to the clubs of Laois, that's why I don't think they will chance it.
The delegates above effectively stood up to the CB on reappointing Creedon, they won't chance putting a stupid appointment in front of them (not saying BS would be a stupid appointment.
I said here months ago that he is the type of character who would be ideal in the backroom, wouldn't have expected him to be given the manager's gig.
Until these delegates vote down something put in front of them by the CB, I believe nothing. Everyone needs their All Ireland tickets.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 28, 2017, 12:58:00 PM
Maybe.
But I would take it as fact that the CB wanted to reappoint Creedon. After the CB meeting they knew they wouldn't get away with it. Do delegates (& clubs) need to stand up to the CB more? Yes, I agree with you.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: The Monument Road on August 28, 2017, 01:08:07 PM
So the clubs are finally going to grow a backbone and stand up to the CB? And THIS is what they are going to make a stand on? We're fucked as a county.

Well I do think if the infamous "Drinkgate" CB meeting hadn't have gone the way it did, myself & Tony would still be arguing over how much time a Mr. P. Creedon should get. I do think that meeting shook the CB a little, and I do think that they were happy enough to retain P. Creedon up to that point.
One delegate telling stories with no evidence to back it up, is an uprising?

No, but several prominent delegates spoke out strongly against his reappointment. (Conway, Lawlor, Burke etc)
I honestly think the CB would have went away, conducted a "review" and come back and proposed him for reappointment if this hadn't of happened. I never mentioned anything about uprising etc but I do think those at the top are politically skilled enough to read which way the wind is blowing.
I wouldn't have thought Billy would have been acceptable to the clubs of Laois, that's why I don't think they will chance it.
The delegates above effectively stood up to the CB on reappointing Creedon, they won't chance putting a stupid appointment in front of them (not saying BS would be a stupid appointment.
I said here months ago that he is the type of character who would be ideal in the backroom, wouldn't have expected him to be given the manager's gig.
Until these delegates vote down something put in front of them by the CB, I believe nothing. Everyone needs their All Ireland tickets.
In this case the club delegates will vote on something put before them by CLUBS.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on August 28, 2017, 01:43:14 PM
So the clubs are finally going to grow a backbone and stand up to the CB? And THIS is what they are going to make a stand on? We're fucked as a county.

Well I do think if the infamous "Drinkgate" CB meeting hadn't have gone the way it did, myself & Tony would still be arguing over how much time a Mr. P. Creedon should get. I do think that meeting shook the CB a little, and I do think that they were happy enough to retain P. Creedon up to that point.
One delegate telling stories with no evidence to back it up, is an uprising?

No, but several prominent delegates spoke out strongly against his reappointment. (Conway, Lawlor, Burke etc)
I honestly think the CB would have went away, conducted a "review" and come back and proposed him for reappointment if this hadn't of happened. I never mentioned anything about uprising etc but I do think those at the top are politically skilled enough to read which way the wind is blowing.
I wouldn't have thought Billy would have been acceptable to the clubs of Laois, that's why I don't think they will chance it.
The delegates above effectively stood up to the CB on reappointing Creedon, they won't chance putting a stupid appointment in front of them (not saying BS would be a stupid appointment.
I said here months ago that he is the type of character who would be ideal in the backroom, wouldn't have expected him to be given the manager's gig.
Until these delegates vote down something put in front of them by the CB, I believe nothing. Everyone needs their All Ireland tickets.
In this case the club delegates will vote on something put before them by CLUBS.
Lets wait with baited breath.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Tony on August 28, 2017, 01:52:44 PM
Not so sure if Billy Sheehan will get the job, but if he does I'd be pleased enough. He ticks a lot of the boxes:

1: He's passionate about Laois football
2: He's incredibly tactically minded (just look at this article http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/laois-star-billy-sheehan-on-how-to-beat-the-blanket-defence-31386943.html  ) with a good head for the game and a knowledge of how good S&C is paramount.
3: He's committed and hard-working.
4: He has the respect of the players (and any player who doesn't show up just because Billy is named manager doesn't deserve to have the honour of putting on the jersey anyway)
5: He would be prepared to commit to Laois for at least 3 years and knows the club scene inside out.

He has a few question marks over his head, for example: he doesn't have huge experience. But then again which potential canditate does have excellent managerial experience.

I hear Malachy, Higgins and Clancy are not interested.
I haven't heard what John Sugrue thinks but I do believe he'd be another good option, but we don't have many other good options.

What we need most is someone who has PASSION for the county and who will really invest his all into the job. Lillis, TOF and Creedon failed at that. At least we know Billy will give his all. Good luck to him if he gets it.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: steven seagal on August 28, 2017, 02:02:55 PM
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4: He has the respect of the players (and any player who doesn't show up just because Billy is named manager doesn't deserve to have the honour of putting on the jersey anyway)

That's an important point, he was players rep when he was on the panel, if you talk to anyone that played with him, they always speak very highly of him. Not all Laois fans took to him, but the players loved Billy. Building up a good relationship with the players will be important for the new manager, especially if we bring in a load of young lads who'll need a bit of confidence.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 28, 2017, 03:14:55 PM
Tony don't know where your getting that Higgins, Clancy are not interested.  Don't know about Malachy or Sugrue.   Billy Sheehan is not a passionate Laois Man, thus Neymar is passionate for Barcelona when he kisses the badge.  Tony I have no doubt of your passion for Laois.  Billy is a passionate GAA MAN,  but his allegiance to this county is one of convenience.   He was only here as long as it suited him and he has returned because it suited him.  I am sure he is a nice fella on a personal level,  but in my opinion he is petrol on a fire.  It is not of his making, but the County Board should they try to implement this will further drive a wedge between themselves and some of the clubs they claim to represent.  I honestly have no idea how you make Billy a passionate Laois Man.  Tony you called me an idiot when I told you Creedon was a dreadful appointment(that was last September), you also claimed that he was popular with the team (they died with their boots on for him ???).  Well I am telling you the appointment of Billy Sheehan has the possiblity of being a whole lot worse(I don't doubt he has some coaching ability) but like Creedon he has no hope of being universally popular among the Laois GAA public, in fact he is quite the opposite, he is very polarising.  Without the fans, clubs, sponsors and potential players being behind you, it makes any chance of success nearly impossible.

I don't forsee Billy doing much in 3 years except getting out of Div 4 but hey ho whats 3 wasted years.

While I am passionate for Laois Football,  I won't be a mug for it.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: The Monument Road on August 28, 2017, 03:34:32 PM
Tony don't know where your getting that Higgins, Clancy are not interested.  Don't know about Malachy or Sugrue.   Billy Sheehan is not a passionate Laois Man, thus Neymar is passionate for Barcelona when he kisses the badge.  Tony I have no doubt of your passion for Laois.  Billy is a passionate GAA MAN,  but his allegiance to this county is one of convenience.   He was only here as long as it suited him and he has returned because it suited him.  I am sure he is a nice fella on a personal level,  but in my opinion he is petrol on a fire.  It is not of his making, but the County Board should they try to implement this will further drive a wedge between themselves and some of the clubs they claim to represent.  I honestly have no idea how you make Billy a passionate Laois Man.  Tony you called me an idiot when I told you Creedon was a dreadful appointment(that was last September), you also claimed that he was popular with the team (they died with their boots on for him ???).  Well I am telling you the appointment of Billy Sheehan has the possiblity of being a whole lot worse(I don't doubt he has some coaching ability) but like Creedon he has no hope of being universally popular among the Laois GAA public, in fact he is quite the opposite, he is very polarising.  Without the fans, clubs, sponsors and potential players being behind you, it makes any chance of success nearly impossible.

I don't forsee Billy doing much in 3 years except getting out of Div 4 but hey ho whats 3 wasted years.

While I am passionate for Laois Football,  I won't be a mug for it.
Its a fact. Both not interested at this stage
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 28, 2017, 03:41:02 PM
Thats rubbish, why did they bother been interviewed if they are not interested.  I would think attending the interview would be a statement of intent.   
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: High Fielder on August 28, 2017, 04:04:09 PM
Maybe they just went in out of courtesy. You've done enough canvassing for them here that they probably got an invite. Do you know for certain if they were interested or not? Would Billy's qualifications not be better, having been a number 2 with Cork?
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on August 28, 2017, 04:52:50 PM
as i stated he must have qualifications to coach but the qualification to manage is a  totally differant art lads thats the key point and not many people have that skill,coaching in cork is different than managing cork,but if he gets it ill wish him the best of luck 
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: High Fielder on August 28, 2017, 04:57:39 PM
Same old Laois. We know better always. Still haven't got the players.......
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: OTF on August 28, 2017, 05:30:01 PM
Tony don't know where your getting that Higgins, Clancy are not interested.  Don't know about Malachy or Sugrue.   Billy Sheehan is not a passionate Laois Man, thus Neymar is passionate for Barcelona when he kisses the badge.  Tony I have no doubt of your passion for Laois.  Billy is a passionate GAA MAN,  but his allegiance to this county is one of convenience.   He was only here as long as it suited him and he has returned because it suited him.  I am sure he is a nice fella on a personal level,  but in my opinion he is petrol on a fire.  It is not of his making, but the County Board should they try to implement this will further drive a wedge between themselves and some of the clubs they claim to represent.  I honestly have no idea how you make Billy a passionate Laois Man.  Tony you called me an idiot when I told you Creedon was a dreadful appointment(that was last September), you also claimed that he was popular with the team (they died with their boots on for him ???).  Well I am telling you the appointment of Billy Sheehan has the possiblity of being a whole lot worse(I don't doubt he has some coaching ability) but like Creedon he has no hope of being universally popular among the Laois GAA public, in fact he is quite the opposite, he is very polarising.  Without the fans, clubs, sponsors and potential players being behind you, it makes any chance of success nearly impossible.

I don't forsee Billy doing much in 3 years except getting out of Div 4 but hey ho whats 3 wasted years.

While I am passionate for Laois Football,  I won't be a mug for it.

Universal approval  !!!    are you for real, ask Micko ( during his time in Kerry) Ger Lougnane, Dave Fitz,  Harte,   Paudi,  Rochford,  have the county love him the other have well.....Laois no different at least ???

If we had Jim Gavin and the funding available to him where would that get us next year or  the year after  ???   division 3  and probably back to  division 4. because we simply don't have the players.

Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 28, 2017, 05:58:19 PM
Sustained  cash will get you along way regardless of talent.  You may not win All Irelands but you will be competitive. 
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: High Fielder on August 28, 2017, 06:37:54 PM
You have to have the talent. The local Championship shows how weak Laois really is. I commend ANYONE who wants to come in and give it a go. I wouldn't envy them in the slightest because in my opinion the standard of player is the worst it has ever been. The whole manager thing is a smokescreen. We don't have the players but nobody wants to admit that. Give it to Billy, Sugrue or whoever and just get on with it. Try to make things better in the future.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on August 28, 2017, 07:39:59 PM
Is there a meeting tonight on this?
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Tony on August 28, 2017, 09:35:20 PM
Ballyroanabu, if he's not passionate about Laois football, then why does he attend nearly all Laois games, bringing his two young kids draped head to toe in Laois gear with him?

I for one do not understand some people's anger for him. Sure he was out of line sometimes on the pitch but he gave his absolute all for Laois every time he played with us and was very proud to play for us. I don't believe he was the most talented player at all but he made up for it with heart and determination. If he brings the same attitude of determination to the managerial role, we can do a lot lot worse, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 28, 2017, 10:54:28 PM
Sugrue got it, I have no doubts about his credit ability as a coach. It's a hard one for me as I think Sugrue is quite a nice fella, and quite clever.  My problem is the continual overlooking of Laois Club Candidates, maybe I am wrong but we are continually over hyping any experience elsewhere.  It's no different from any other Laois appointment that is they overlook their own.  His selectors will be interesting, I don't see the clubs having any problem with him.  I just feel the whole selection process offers no path for a Laois Club Candidate.  While in the short term that's fine I don't think it will bring us any long term gains regardless of where he is based. 

It does seem odd how long since we have appointed a candidate born in Laois, maybe it's just the mentality of the place.






Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 28, 2017, 11:01:52 PM
Happy with that decision.
Good coach by all accounts. Outside perspective. Local with a vested interest.
As good as was possible IMO.
Also no reason any of Sheehan/Clancy/Conway couldn't be involved.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on August 28, 2017, 11:20:05 PM
I would like to congratulate john, I do feel sorry doh for joe,mal and Clancy who have stook there kneck  out to progress club teams for no advantage to get the top job,best of luck john surgu
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on August 29, 2017, 12:29:49 AM
EXCLUSIVE: New Laois senior football manager revealed

Ex-Kerry U-21 manager John Sugrue will be sent forward for ratification in the coming days.


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Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Tony on August 29, 2017, 02:40:46 AM
Happy with that appointment, my number 1choice got it and the choice of the players. Perhaps others involved in the setup as selectors including billy sheehan or other former players. Well done to byron and all involved. John is a highly regarded coach, and as I said, was the best qualified for the role in my opinion. Hopefully he has the required energy and determination for the role as it's a big task to get us moving in the right direction again. Best of luck to him and all involved for 2018.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Unison on August 29, 2017, 09:34:18 AM
Good luck to John Sugrue. Its a tough job, but expectations are not high at the moment. My advice would be to concentrate on youth.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: redsetanta on August 29, 2017, 09:46:45 AM
Considering the options and the task at hand Sugrue is as good a man as was out there. Yes, it would have been good to get a Laois man but at least Sugrue lives in the county and knows the scene. It will be a tough job because although expectations will not be high he will be expected to take Laois up from Div 4. Maybe, if the rumours are true about Sheehan taking notes at the games, he will be brought on board as well.
It's a far better appointment than the likes of Banty, Paul Curran, Ryan and Pillar as had been mentioned in posts here.
B
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: blueandwhite1 on August 29, 2017, 10:30:16 AM
Ballyroanabu, if he's not passionate about Laois football, then why does he attend nearly all Laois games, bringing his two young kids draped head to toe in Laois gear with him?

I for one do not understand some people's anger for him. Sure he was out of line sometimes on the pitch but he gave his absolute all for Laois every time he played with us and was very proud to play for us. I don't believe he was the most talented player at all but he made up for it with heart and determination. If he brings the same attitude of determination to the managerial role, we can do a lot lot worse, in my opinion.

I'm with you Tony. The only people I have ever heard that have a problem with him are a couple of faceless people on here who seem to have a personal vendetta against him. I always said that if half of the footballers in Laois showed nearly as much passion for Laois as Billy did, we would not be where we are now. I have always been a big fan.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on August 29, 2017, 10:32:47 AM
I'm overjoyed its Sugrue. Glad he decided to take it, we should thank our lucky stars.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on August 29, 2017, 10:45:35 AM
Delighted with that appointment.  Sugure should have got the job before Lillis,  he was by far the better candidate but thank god we have him now. For once in this county can we now get behind this management team and support whoever gets on the panel. This county needs support more than ever before and this is when real supporters step up.
It's very easy to support a winning team but also very easy to turn your back on a losing side. It's not going to be easy to get out of Division 4 so let's all learn to be patient and get behind both management team and the footballers and do our bit to achieve that goal
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 29, 2017, 11:19:12 AM
If you would care to elaborate on a personal vendetta, I don't know Billy Sheehan have never any substantial dealings with him.  I would also say in relation to Sugrue he seems the favoured candidate, I would set the targets a little lower.  There is no doubt he has the potential to be successful,  he will need serious financial backing over the next couple of years.  The County Board have appointed him it is now time to get the chequebook out.   

To the fella that said no one gets universal backing it seems Sugrue got it.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Tony on August 29, 2017, 12:54:07 PM
Sugrue appointment was a no brainer. Thankfully he's interested in the job. I know a couple of years back he wasn't interested. He must be in a far better position now to take over.

Ballyroanabu, if a better Laois born candidate existed he'd be named manager, I've no doubt about it. Sugrue is Laois based, has a quality CV, and is well respected by players and spectators alike. We still have a huge uphill battle though.

Would love to see cahir healy, Paul cahilane and Boyle back from their exile for 2018. Hopefully the younger lads like luttrell & moore will really come along in standard this year. Would also like to see ross involved in any capacity. We can't afford any major dropouts but at the same time it's best to have 100% commitment from all players. If anyone doesn't want to play for Laois it's best they don't show up. Looking forward to seeing Sugrue's background team. Also expecting us to be far fitter for 2018 compared to the last few years.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 29, 2017, 01:16:12 PM
Sugrue appointment was a no brainer. Thankfully he's interested in the job. I know a couple of years back he wasn't interested. He must be in a far better position now to take over.

Ballyroanabu, if a better Laois born candidate existed he'd be named manager, I've no doubt about it. Sugrue is Laois based, has a quality CV, and is well respected by players and spectators alike. We still have a huge uphill battle though.

Would love to see cahir healy, Paul cahilane and Boyle back from their exile for 2018. Hopefully the younger lads like luttrell & moore will really come along in standard this year. Would also like to see ross involved in any capacity. We can't afford any major dropouts but at the same time it's best to have 100% commitment from all players. If anyone doesn't want to play for Laois it's best they don't show up. Looking forward to seeing Sugrue's background team. Also expecting us to be far fitter for 2018 compared to the last few years.

I don't have any arguments with that.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Joeythelips on August 29, 2017, 05:38:22 PM
Im glad we have an appointment in place so they (and hopefully his backroom team) can get a good look now at the latter stages of the club championship. He needs to be given few years to really build a team, new players need to be blooded but there are some decent young players out there who could be moulded into decent inter county players with a good coach and lots of hard work.

I have no real opinon of the man himself, he does not seem to have outstanding credentials but seems to be well thought off by current and former players (although Creedon got similar praise). Fair enough he seems to be the best candidate, but the county board need to try and put some measures in place that the next manager is a Laois man as at this stage no one will bother to coach teams. There should be some pathway to County managers position if they are good enough.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on August 30, 2017, 12:42:24 AM
The Laois Official GAA website is as bad as it ever was, still not a word on there about our potential new manager.
Thank God for this forum or we would be totally in the dark about what's going on ...
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 30, 2017, 01:53:48 PM
The Laois Official GAA website is as bad as it ever was, still not a word on there about our potential new manager.
Thank God for this forum or we would be totally in the dark about what's going on ...

We don't have a new manager! As you said yourself it's only potentially going to happen!
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Unlaoised on August 30, 2017, 04:28:54 PM
I hope its John ...Good man good coach and best we could have hoped for...

Its onwards and upwards now....
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Tony on August 30, 2017, 05:04:51 PM
John is some gas man in fairness but also very knowledgable and a great coach. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on August 30, 2017, 06:42:53 PM
The Laois Official GAA website is as bad as it ever was, still not a word on there about our potential new manager.
Thank God for this forum or we would be totally in the dark about what's going on ...

We don't have a new manager! As you said yourself it's only potentially going to happen!

I just mean news in general, the only thing on there is team news when the county team are playing and the last thing on it is a statement thanking Peter Creedon and his management team.
Surely there must be some news of interest to Laois supporters that could be put on there to keep an interest in the site and to make it worthwhile for the sponsers.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on August 30, 2017, 08:58:15 PM
Not one dissenting voice... WOW!

http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/08/30/overwhelmingly-positive-social-media-reaction-proposed-new-laois-manager/
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on August 30, 2017, 09:35:29 PM
Great coach and I'm sure will be a good manager also I'm happy with appointment
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 30, 2017, 10:08:31 PM
The Laois Official GAA website is as bad as it ever was, still not a word on there about our potential new manager.
Thank God for this forum or we would be totally in the dark about what's going on ...

We don't have a new manager! As you said yourself it's only potentially going to happen!

I just mean news in general, the only thing on there is team news when the county team are playing and the last thing on it is a statement thanking Peter Creedon and his management team.
Surely there must be some news of interest to Laois supporters that could be put on there to keep an interest in the site and to make it worthwhile for the sponsers.

Fair point.
It's generally well kept except the news section, which is as bad as you are saying!
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: TheGiantSquid on August 30, 2017, 11:48:30 PM
Apologies folks I was in Spain the last week! Id like to go on record and say to BallyroanAbu it was only a slight jest at him, whoever said the starstruck thing about Clancy and that whole paragraph was out of order, hes a passionate man at the end of the day and I respect him. Also it seems I may have been right about Sugru or at least my sources were!!
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on September 01, 2017, 01:57:37 PM
Laois to opt for former Kerry coach

http://www.hoganstand.com/Laois/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=275132&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: town1980 on September 12, 2017, 10:47:24 AM
all quiet here was john sugru rattified??is there a management team in place?
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on September 12, 2017, 10:51:44 AM
all quiet here was john sugru rattified??is there a management team in place?
Who?
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on September 16, 2017, 11:02:41 AM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2017/0915/904973-colm-orourke-has-a-point-this-blue-wave-wont-break/

Colm O Rourke has a point is the caption
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on September 16, 2017, 01:10:59 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2017/0915/904973-colm-orourke-has-a-point-this-blue-wave-wont-break/

Colm O Rourke has a point is the caption
Real insightful stuff from Conor.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Unlaoised on September 20, 2017, 11:13:35 AM
So John sugure has got the gig...

He has appointed Brian stack of Kerry as coach(he was here with TOF)

Eoin Kearns former Ballyroan player and Brian Delaney of Park as his selcetors

Gone with Dublin guy for S/C training

Same physio back room team.

All sorted at the meeting last night!
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: clonadmad on September 20, 2017, 11:42:10 AM
http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/09/20/revealed-new-laois-football-managers-backroom-team/
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on September 20, 2017, 11:51:19 AM
Great news, looks like a great appointment. The only way is up.... :)
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: portlaoisekid on September 20, 2017, 03:26:59 PM
On the face of it , its a great looking set up. Lets hope all the players that he wants on board commit and we can start moving forward as a county again. We have been so poor for so long, its time we sorted ourselves out.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on September 20, 2017, 05:24:55 PM
On the face of it , its a great looking set up. Lets hope all the players that he wants on board commit and we can start moving forward as a county again. We have been so poor for so long, its time we sorted ourselves out.
Agreed. Its a great opportunity. Everything is positive about him. He's the best manager they could have dreamed to get in our current situation. When you think of some of the names bandied about, we should be very grateful. Its a hugely important period coming up for the future of football in this county. Some think we can't go any lower, I'd be very wary of that. Here's hoping we won't.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Tony on September 20, 2017, 06:20:39 PM
Obviously it would have been much better to have him appointed much earlier (post mcnulty) rather than the other managers we got from 2013 - 2017 but hindsight is great.

Better late than never, that is some background team he has set up.

S & C Coach Cannon will be very important. As a sprinter himself, hopefully he can work on improving the pace of the team. Even a yard or two would help. And overall fitness, we badly need it. We're surely one of the slowest teams in the country at present.

Have to say I'm optimistic enough for 2018 in terms of doing well in  Div 4 and building for the future. Hopefully all will commit. I don't think we'll be knocking on Leinster's doors or anything in 2018 but an improvement on the last few years would be positive. Getting to a League final and back to croke park is a realistic target as well as bringing on some more talent. Hopefully Sugrue and setup can do what some of us thought Creedon would do.

Best of luck to all involved.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Giovanni on September 20, 2017, 06:53:18 PM
I would agree with Tony that we must be one of the slowest teams in the country and this is surely one of our most serious weaknesses. While the S&C guy might make some marginal differences here (which would, of course, be a help), I hope the new setup will take a look at some more pacy players from the club scene. Alan Farrell and Eoin Buggie have been good additions over the last while and bring some pace and stamina. We need a few more new ones with more pace along those lines.

I add my good luck wishes to the new management team and hope they get all the support needed both from the County Board and the Laois supporter base.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Butch Cassidy on September 20, 2017, 09:14:32 PM
Have the u17 and u20 roles been filled yet? Be good to have a link between them and the senior role. Ideally we'd have a full time S&C coach overseeing all grades ala Brian Cullen with the Dubs
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on September 21, 2017, 12:08:07 PM
Looks like Billy is moving on...

Former Laois player linked with Offaly coaching role
http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/09/21/former-laois-player-linked-offaly-coaching-role/ (http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/09/21/former-laois-player-linked-offaly-coaching-role/)
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on September 27, 2017, 10:35:09 AM
Sugrue appointed for 1 year term, I assume if we don't get promoted he will join the long list of managers who will be removed and blamed for the appalling state of football in this county.

http://www.rte.ie/amp/907850/
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Laoisguy on September 27, 2017, 12:13:56 PM
1 year contract what does that say?

 >:(
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: GAA-SMART on September 27, 2017, 01:04:32 PM
No point in giving him 3-4 years, if we don't get out of 4 and early championship knock out yee be all on here again calling for heads. Maybe he only wanted a year.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: clonadmad on September 27, 2017, 01:15:46 PM
No point in giving him 3-4 years, if we don't get out of 4 and early championship knock out yee be all on here again calling for heads. Maybe he only wanted a year.

He requested more than a year
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: GAA-SMART on September 27, 2017, 01:27:54 PM
Makes no difference 1 or 20, if he does a good job then give him the 20 years
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on September 27, 2017, 01:59:08 PM
No point in giving him 3-4 years, if we don't get out of 4 and early championship knock out yee be all on here again calling for heads. Maybe he only wanted a year.
The man spoke of the need to rebuild, etc. They know what he's about. They could at least have shown some courage in their conviction for once and given him 3 years.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on September 27, 2017, 03:28:23 PM
1 year or 4 does it matter ? If he is a success he will get longer, if not he will be let go anyway.  I think he is a smart guy, Kearns is from our club is a equally a smart cookie who knows the ins and outs of Laois Club Football.  Don't know piles about Delaney but by the looks of it these guys will be a success and we will have them for the long haul.

It is imperative the county board backs them with serious money to get the right people in the back room.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on September 27, 2017, 03:44:25 PM
1 year or 4 does it matter ? If he is a success he will get longer, if not he will be let go anyway. 
Its about a show of confidence. Of course it means little, especially in the GAA, but its about perception and strength.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: BallyroanAbu on September 27, 2017, 03:55:44 PM
You have a point.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: clonadmad on September 27, 2017, 04:57:06 PM
Makes no difference 1 or 20, if he does a good job then give him the 20 years

Sugrue comes in for the year and now has a 1 year plan in place,short termism isnt the way to go be it management in sport,politics or business.

After 4 managers in 4 years,It was important for the CB to be seen to back their man.

He had looked for more than 1 year to put his structures in place and was knocked back,a great start.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on September 27, 2017, 07:36:29 PM
I really don't think it matters what length of "contract" these managers get. If they do well, they stay on. If they don't, and there are question marks around discipline, preparation or other management related matters, they get "let off".

The clever thing to do would have been to privately assure Sugrue of his security, and present him to the county board meeting as our manager for the foreseeable future. Putting a length of term on a GAA manager is pointless.

Unlike others gone before him he has the background, experience and I believe he has as much of vested interest as is possible for a non-insider. He has worked with Laois Senior footballers before and was deemed good enough by the players. There is no reason he won't be a success- relative to what "success" means for us.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: GAA-SMART on October 09, 2017, 09:52:35 AM
Has a minor management been put in place?
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: SCFC on October 09, 2017, 02:39:12 PM
Has a minor management been put in place?
I'd say they have to wait until the under 17 is over in case the incoming manager might actually spot someone.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: OTF on October 09, 2017, 04:42:49 PM
Is there minor next year , I thought minor was finished.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: SCFC on October 10, 2017, 12:23:03 AM
Is there minor next year , I thought minor was finished.

Minor continues on with age limit dropping to under 17
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: OTF on October 10, 2017, 01:00:37 PM
OK!!
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: justinn on October 13, 2017, 03:56:07 PM
DIVISION 4

Round 1: Saturday, January 27th: Laois v Limerick, London v Carlow; Sunday, January 28th: Antrim v Leitrim, Wicklow v Waterford

Round 2: Sunday, February 4th: Leitrim v Laois, Limerick v Carlow, London v Wicklow, Waterford v Antrim

Round 3: Saturday, February 10th: Laois v Waterford; Sunday, February 11th: Antrim v Wicklow, Carlow v Leitrim, London v Limerick

Round 4: Sunday, February 25th: Leitrim v Limerick, Waterford v Carlow, Wicklow v Laois, London v Antrim

Round 5: Saturday, March 3rd: Carlow v Wicklow, London v Leitrim; Sunday, March 4th: Laois v Antrim, Limerick v Waterford

Round 6: Sunday, March 11th: London v Laois; Sunday, March 18th: Antrim v Carlow, Waterford v Leitrim, Wicklow v Limerick

Round 7: Sunday, March 25th: Carlow v Laois, Leitrim v Wicklow, Limerick v Antrim, London v Waterford
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: The Monument Road on October 13, 2017, 04:08:14 PM
DIVISION 4

Round 1: Saturday, January 27th: Laois v Limerick, London v Carlow; Sunday, January 28th: Antrim v Leitrim, Wicklow v Waterford

Round 2: Sunday, February 4th: Leitrim v Laois, Limerick v Carlow, London v Wicklow, Waterford v Antrim

Round 3: Saturday, February 10th: Laois v Waterford; Sunday, February 11th: Antrim v Wicklow, Carlow v Leitrim, London v Limerick

Round 4: Sunday, February 25th: Leitrim v Limerick, Waterford v Carlow, Wicklow v Laois, London v Antrim

Round 5: Saturday, March 3rd: Carlow v Wicklow, London v Leitrim; Sunday, March 4th: Laois v Antrim, Limerick v Waterford

Round 6: Sunday, March 11th: London v Laois; Sunday, March 18th: Antrim v Carlow, Waterford v Leitrim, Wicklow v Limerick

Round 7: Sunday, March 25th: Carlow v Laois, Leitrim v Wicklow, Limerick v Antrim, London v Waterford
And the Laois bandwagon rolls into Ruislip ..
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Uisce on October 13, 2017, 04:16:12 PM
Wow, only kind of dawns on you the standard in division 4 when you see the fixtures laid out like that!
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Unlaoised on October 13, 2017, 04:47:36 PM
Nice to have Antrim at home...

London away is great trip I went with the hurlers a few years back was great banter.

Carlow is good one to have away because its so close.

Limerick is nice one to have at home as I think they will be our main threat.

wicklow away could be sticky.

Waterford at home should be 2 points in the bag

Leitrim at home would have been nicer but we can't have it all
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Give and Go on October 13, 2017, 05:32:49 PM
Nice to have Antrim at home...

London away is great trip I went with the hurlers a few years back was great banter.

Carlow is good one to have away because its so close.

Limerick is nice one to have at home as I think they will be our main threat.

wicklow away could be sticky.

Waterford at home should be 2 points in the bag

Leitrim at home would have been nicer but we can't have it all

So Laois and Limerick to go up?
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Dave like the tv channel on October 13, 2017, 07:06:14 PM
how da fuk are we down this low? We wouldn't spit on these teams a few years ago, now we're doing battle with them.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on October 14, 2017, 12:21:39 PM
how da fuk are we down this low? We wouldn't spit on these teams a few years ago, now we're doing battle with them.
Lawyer fucked us.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on October 14, 2017, 06:46:08 PM
how da fuk are we down this low? We wouldn't spit on these teams a few years ago, now we're doing battle with them.
Lawyer fucked us.


Who in God's name is Lawyer ? ? ? ?
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Keyser Söze on October 14, 2017, 10:54:19 PM
how da fuk are we down this low? We wouldn't spit on these teams a few years ago, now we're doing battle with them.
Lawyer fucked us.


Who in God's name is Lawyer ? ? ? ?

 ;D
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on October 15, 2017, 06:59:21 AM
how da fuk are we down this low? We wouldn't spit on these teams a few years ago, now we're doing battle with them.
Lawyer fucked us.


Who in God's name is Lawyer ? ? ? ?

 ;D
He gets it.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: steven seagal on October 15, 2017, 06:39:49 PM
It's always bitterly disappointing when someone misses a fairly clear cut Shawshank Redemption reference
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Don Draper on October 15, 2017, 09:44:30 PM
It's always bitterly disappointing when someone misses a fairly clear cut Shawshank Redemption reference
And it every GAA mans favourite film like.
Title: Re: Next Laois football manager
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on October 16, 2017, 01:10:11 AM
God I'm slow...  Good one Don    :)