Hawkeye

[Jell 0 Biafra]

I'd say the issue is whether the "through the post" graphic was accurate.

[screenexile]

Not sure but Derry had one that went to Hawkeye and myself and all the Derry fans cheered it as a score only for Níl to come up.

How can a system like that get it so wrong? Especially the Walsh one that was horrendous.

Even with that yes the right decision was made but if it's given wide at the time how was it overturned? What is the precedent for that? Was video evidence used?

Does that mean video evidence can be used for other things during a game? Big issues for the GAA going forward with Hawkeye!

[marty34]

Problem before, a few years ago, was Hawkeye was using a football metric for a hurling game or vice-versa.

They made a few blunders.

Somebody didn't press the correct button for the sport that was being played that day.

Waste of money if they can't get it right.

[balladmaker]

What's the chances they had it calibrated for hurling last weekend and forgot to flick it to football.

[ranch]

I can't believe Derry just rolled over during HT and agreed that the score be allowed.
Gallagher could well have argued that the time it took to check Hawkeye denied Derry the chance for a quick kick out. Galway won the subsequent kick out and Comer scored.
Also, the Glass effort was never shown again after being given wide, despite looking like a point to most people. If the game had been closer at the end the GAA would be in an awkward spot.

[thewobbler]

I can't believe Derry just rolled over during HT and agreed that the score be allowed.
Gallagher could well have argued that the time it took to check Hawkeye denied Derry the chance for a quick kick out. Galway won the subsequent kick out and Comer scored.
Also, the Glass effort was never shown again after being given wide, despite looking like a point to most people. If the game had been closer at the end the GAA would be in an awkward spot.

Maybe It wasn't "rolling over".

Maybe it was a case of looking at a replay and agreeing, "yep that's a point, any blind **** can see that, and for it not to stand would be completely wrong".

Integrity is NEVER a bad trait Ranch.

[onefineday]

I can't believe Derry just rolled over during HT and agreed that the score be allowed.
Gallagher could well have argued that the time it took to check Hawkeye denied Derry the chance for a quick kick out. Galway won the subsequent kick out and Comer scored.
Also, the Glass effort was never shown again after being given wide, despite looking like a point to most people. If the game had been closer at the end the GAA would be in an awkward spot.

Maybe It wasn't "rolling over".

Maybe it was a case of looking at a replay and agreeing, "yep that's a point, any blind **** can see that, and for it not to stand would be completely wrong".

Integrity is NEVER a bad trait Ranch.

I disagree, it shouldn't have been reversed, there shouldn't have been an ability for it to be reversed by anyone. The referee's decision is final and all that.
It was particularly obvious in the incident yesterday, but it's the same in any game. What happens after a decision is reflective of what's gone before. There's the mental impact, Galway had just seen a good score denied, that gives them an injustice to avenge, the referee was also flummoxed, he played extra extra time which gave Galway the time to work a score. Also, the delay meant Derry had fewer kick out options.
So it's not about integrity on this one, it's about how this option cannot be available in field sports
And say what you will, it was an incredible momentum swing in the stadium.

[quit yo jibbajabba]

Agree on the momentum swing. Although well beat (so not sour grapes) the Derry team battled well to go in at ht one up, then as you walk out all of a sudden its level and inside a minute youre a point down.

Would be curious to know when the team and management were made aware the point was to stand

[Milltown Row2]

It's always an 'injustice' to the losing team, complaining about giving the actual score back looks like sour grapes..

Derry were shite that's what lost the game. There would  have been gurning from Derry one's looking that score reinstated for them had it went against them..

As for the referees decision is final and all that, Hawkeye overturns referees decisions in many games at Thurles and Croke, yes it malfunctioned yesterday but the right call was given in the end.

I'd be more curious about when management realised if we continue to play like this we are going to lose?

[Saffrongael]

What's the craic with Hawkeye when the graphic shows the ball going through the post and is therefore a "Nil", obviously it's impossible for the ball to go through. Why doesent it show it going either side of the post ?

[Milltown Row2]

What's the craic with Hawkeye when the graphic shows the ball going through the post and is therefore a "Nil", obviously it's impossible for the ball to go through. Why doesent it show it going either side of the post ?

Through the virtual post is the same as going through the actual post if it was extended. Directly over the post is and always has been a wide, so I'm assuming that's why it gives it a Nil

[tonto1888]

I can't believe Derry just rolled over during HT and agreed that the score be allowed.
Gallagher could well have argued that the time it took to check Hawkeye denied Derry the chance for a quick kick out. Galway won the subsequent kick out and Comer scored.
Also, the Glass effort was never shown again after being given wide, despite looking like a point to most people. If the game had been closer at the end the GAA would be in an awkward spot.

Maybe It wasn't "rolling over".

Maybe it was a case of looking at a replay and agreeing, "yep that's a point, any blind **** can see that, and for it not to stand would be completely wrong".

Integrity is NEVER a bad trait Ranch.

I disagree, it shouldn't have been reversed, there shouldn't have been an ability for it to be reversed by anyone. The referee's decision is final and all that.
It was particularly obvious in the incident yesterday, but it's the same in any game. What happens after a decision is reflective of what's gone before. There's the mental impact, Galway had just seen a good score denied, that gives them an injustice to avenge, the referee was also flummoxed, he played extra extra time which gave Galway the time to work a score. Also, the delay meant Derry had fewer kick out options.
So it's not about integrity on this one, it's about how this option cannot be available in field sports
And say what you will, it was an incredible momentum swing in the stadium.

the referee's decision was a point and that was reversed

[onefineday]

It's always an 'injustice' to the losing team, complaining about giving the actual score back looks like sour grapes..

Derry were shite that's what lost the game. There would  have been gurning from Derry one's looking that score reinstated for them had it went against them..

As for the referees decision is final and all that, Hawkeye overturns referees decisions in many games at Thurles and Croke, yes it malfunctioned yesterday but the right call was given in the end.

I'd be more curious about when management realised if we continue to play like this we are going to lose?

No, Hawkeye assists the referee to come to a decision, it did the same this time. It appears as though pressure was then put on Derry to agree to reverse the decision? It's all bizarre and illogical that a decision reached on the pitch can be retrospectively amended without play being restarted from that point onwards.

[onefineday]

Final point on this. In 2019 tipp v Wexford, Wexford shot for a point was stopped by tipp keeper, he started an attack which ended up with tipp scoring a goal. Hawkeye buzzed the ref, told him the ball stopped by the tipp keeper had actually crossed the plane and was a point. The tipp goal was ruled out, the point awarded and play restarted with a puck out. That's all correct and how the system should work.
Yesterday, that couldn't happen because play had restarted and we were at half time, so that had to be the end of it and it could not be revisited.
If Hawkeye had been aware of the problem before the teams were back in the dressing room, but after Comer's point, you'd think that the Walsh 45 would have been given, Comer's point ruled out and play would have restarted with a Derry kickout, there's no other way this could have been addressed fairly.

[GiveItToTheShooters]

It went over the bar, so it was rightly given a point in the end. Nothing else to see here.