19 years ago the GAA abolished rule 21 with Down GAA at the forefront of this. The PSNI are not having a recruitment drive and what i want to ask posters from the six counties, how would you club react to a senior footballer joining the PSNI? Young cops are still forced to move away which is a shame
Not for the GAA section...General discussion?
Its about GAA clubs and there attitude towards PSNI?
Personally wouldn't bother me if one of my team mates joined the PSNI. Would be a great career for someone I suppose - life is tough enough and they would get enough headache from all sorts without a teammate adding to something that's really none of their business anyway.
I get the "personally" bit but would GAA clubs really get behind them?
Quote from: Truth hurts on February 04, 2020, 10:16:58 AM
I get the "personally" bit but would GAA clubs really get behind them?
Who knows, it's still a tricky subject. In my own club the old PSNI/RUC were involved in the killing of club members - Do I think our club would be keen to give approval? No.
I'd hazard a guess you'd be lucky to get any kind of popular support in Tyrone/Armagh/Derry or Antrim.
But the GAA has to move on, as do we all. I just don't think it's going to be in this generation.
Quote from: Truth hurts on February 04, 2020, 10:16:58 AM
I get the "personally" bit but would GAA clubs really get behind them?
The trouble unfortunately with getting behind someone is that you are putting them out there, for want of a better term, whereas due to a very small minority in the community it is safest for that person to keep their head down. If I were to join (I'm not) I certainly wouldn't want it broadcast.
I think the recent RIC thing has shown that people's memories are long.
Also, when the PSNI pose for photos in Crossmaglen with machine guns, that hardly helps the whole situation.
Clubs can say all the right things, but someone may have a problem with a club member joining them, and shout abuse or attack him/her... but the club can't be responsible for every single one of their members, or indeed those locals who aren't members.
The local church, school, club, scouts, pensioners club, choir etc could say all the right things, but it only takes one person to say or do something. That doesn't mean that all those associations/clubs havent done enough, it's just that one person has a problem. It also doesn't mean the whole community have a problem with it.
I don't have a problem with anyone with the PSNI but its not a career that i would want my son to take up if you know what i mean. I know that the clubs in Down who voted for the abolition came in for a lot of abuse and would still get jibes about it. Ulster GAA is seen as being very proactice with PSNI but on ground level I do not think this happens. In the south everyone knows a guard from their village, I can honestly say that i do not know any police officer !
Quote from: Truth hurts on February 04, 2020, 09:49:29 AM
19 years ago the GAA abolished rule 21 with Down GAA at the forefront of this. The PSNI are not having a recruitment drive and what i want to ask posters from the six counties, how would you club react to a senior footballer joining the PSNI? Young cops are still forced to move away which is a shame
Personally it would not worry me, but quiet a few in our club would struggle with it. Put it this way he would be transferring to another club away from Derry City for safety. There have been 3 pipe bomb attacks on catholic officers within a mile of our pitch
PSNI still run at a senior level by RUC clique.
psni/ruc is probably similiar to the issues surrounding the civil war in the south in the decades thereafter.
for what its worth it probably will take another passage of time before the nationalist population are entirely comfortable with the psni.
for myself i wouldn`t want my son or daughter joining up but that`s probably because i am in my 50s and remember the troubles etc whilst still hankering for the united ireland.
time is a healer so hopefully my children`s children will have a different view.
Quote from: the_daddy on February 04, 2020, 10:41:33 AM
Quote from: Truth hurts on February 04, 2020, 10:16:58 AM
I get the "personally" bit but would GAA clubs really get behind them?
What professions do clubs "get behind"? I've been sitting on the club committee for a good few years and don't think a players occupation has ever been discussed.
+1
Through advertisements, the GAA have fully endorsed this British police force. Make no bones about it or have any qualms; the GAA are in favour if this.
What part of Britain are they policing?
Quote from: Truth hurts on February 04, 2020, 09:49:29 AM
19 years ago the GAA abolished rule 21 with Down GAA at the forefront of this. The PSNI are not having a recruitment drive and what i want to ask posters from the six counties, how would you club react to a senior footballer joining the PSNI? Young cops are still forced to move away which is a shame
I doubt our club could ever live with the shame of having a footballer in its ranks
Well if there is an election in the 26 counties you might embrace the PSNI
(https://www.irishnews.com/picturesarchive/irishnews/irishnews/2020/02/04/151317218-bce19bf0-5599-4be3-b612-0e882915c429.jpg)
Who truly, gives a f**k?
how many unemployed gaa players is there
Great to see all the major political parties behind the PSNI. I obviously see the long game here, to have a fair and just society we need Catholic Nationalist representation in the PSNI. Problem is in a lot of areas of Northern Ireland if you say you're in the PSNI you're likely to be a target and feel very very unsafe. This needs to change.
I think my club would reflect the nationalist population in general, some wouldn't give a hoot, some would be apprehensive whereas some would be 100% opposed. It's kind of like your son coming out as gay, there's nothing wrong with it youd just prefer he didn't
Quote from: Eire90 on February 05, 2020, 01:00:07 AM
how many unemployed gaa players is there
At County Level?
Can....worms.....
It was good to see MoN and GK attend the PSNI recruitment day. Whilst it remains disappointing that some within policing hark back to the bad old days we need to move on. Nationalist communities and GAA clubs need to back local people when they join the PSNI. It does not help however to have the Police Federation badge proudly championing the RUC badge, it does not help when the Chief Constable pose in Cross with boys armed like they are in Iraq and it does not help when recruits are questioned about their partners hailing from South Armagh. PSNI needs to understand that this is stereotypical profiling, does it mean that no one from SA is welcome because they might be contaminated. So PSNI needs to try harder as do we as nationalists. Change from within.
Quote from: Applesisapples on March 03, 2020, 11:29:31 AM
It was good to see MoN and GK attend the PSNI recruitment day. Whilst it remains disappointing that some within policing hark back to the bad old days we need to move on. Nationalist communities and GAA clubs need to back local people when they join the PSNI. It does not help however to have the Police Federation badge proudly championing the RUC badge, it does not help when the Chief Constable pose in Cross with boys armed like they are in Iraq and it does not help when recruits are questioned about their partners hailing from South Armagh. PSNI needs to understand that this is stereotypical profiling, does it mean that no one from SA is welcome because they might be contaminated. So PSNI needs to try harder as do we as nationalists. Change from within.
Nothing to do with GAA clubs.
Quote from: Applesisapples on March 03, 2020, 11:29:31 AM
It was good to see MoN and GK attend the PSNI recruitment day. Whilst it remains disappointing that some within policing hark back to the bad old days we need to move on. Nationalist communities and GAA clubs need to back local people when they join the PSNI. It does not help however to have the Police Federation badge proudly championing the RUC badge, it does not help when the Chief Constable pose in Cross with boys armed like they are in Iraq and it does not help when recruits are questioned about their partners hailing from South Armagh. PSNI needs to understand that this is stereotypical profiling, does it mean that no one from SA is welcome because they might be contaminated. So PSNI needs to try harder as do we as nationalists. Change from within.
Who is MoN and GK
MIchelle O'Neill and Gerry Kelly?
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 03, 2020, 12:54:08 PM
MIchelle O'Neill and Gerry Kelly?
It was posted today so I thought it was GAA personnel.
Quote from: theticklemister on March 03, 2020, 12:39:12 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on March 03, 2020, 11:29:31 AM
It was good to see MoN and GK attend the PSNI recruitment day. Whilst it remains disappointing that some within policing hark back to the bad old days we need to move on. Nationalist communities and GAA clubs need to back local people when they join the PSNI. It does not help however to have the Police Federation badge proudly championing the RUC badge, it does not help when the Chief Constable pose in Cross with boys armed like they are in Iraq and it does not help when recruits are questioned about their partners hailing from South Armagh. PSNI needs to understand that this is stereotypical profiling, does it mean that no one from SA is welcome because they might be contaminated. So PSNI needs to try harder as do we as nationalists. Change from within.
Who is MoN and GK
YEP