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Title: PSNI recriutment
Post by: Truth hurts on February 04, 2020, 09:49:29 AM
19 years ago the GAA abolished rule 21 with Down GAA at the forefront of this. The PSNI are not having a recruitment drive and what i want to ask posters from the six counties, how would you club react to a senior footballer joining the PSNI? Young cops are still forced to move away which is a shame
Title: Re: PSNI recriutment
Post by: illdecide on February 04, 2020, 10:06:34 AM
Not for the GAA section...General discussion?
Title: Re: PSNI recriutment
Post by: Truth hurts on February 04, 2020, 10:10:11 AM
Its about GAA clubs and there attitude towards PSNI?
Title: Re: PSNI recriutment
Post by: GetOverTheBar on February 04, 2020, 10:11:37 AM
Personally wouldn't bother me if one of my team mates joined the PSNI. Would be a great career for someone I suppose - life is tough enough and they would get enough headache from all sorts without a teammate adding to something that's really none of their business anyway.
Title: Re: PSNI recriutment
Post by: Truth hurts on February 04, 2020, 10:16:58 AM
I get the "personally" bit but would GAA clubs really get behind them?
Title: Re: PSNI recriutment
Post by: GetOverTheBar on February 04, 2020, 10:28:01 AM
Quote from: Truth hurts on February 04, 2020, 10:16:58 AM
I get the "personally" bit but would GAA clubs really get behind them?

Who knows, it's still a tricky subject. In my own club the old PSNI/RUC were involved in the killing of club members - Do I think our club would be keen to give approval? No.

I'd hazard a guess you'd be lucky to get any kind of popular support in Tyrone/Armagh/Derry or Antrim.

But the GAA has to move on, as do we all. I just don't think it's going to be in this generation.
Title: Re: PSNI recriutment
Post by: TheOptimist on February 04, 2020, 10:43:26 AM
Quote from: Truth hurts on February 04, 2020, 10:16:58 AM
I get the "personally" bit but would GAA clubs really get behind them?

The trouble unfortunately with getting behind someone is that you are putting them out there, for want of a better term, whereas due to a very small minority in the community it is safest for that person to keep their head down. If I were to join (I'm not) I certainly wouldn't want it broadcast.
Title: Re: PSNI recriutment
Post by: BennyCake on February 04, 2020, 11:11:03 AM
I think the recent RIC thing has shown that people's memories are long.

Also, when the PSNI pose for photos in Crossmaglen  with machine guns, that hardly helps the whole situation.

Clubs can say all the right things, but someone may have a problem with a club member joining them, and shout abuse or attack him/her... but the club can't be responsible for every single one of their members, or indeed those locals who aren't members.

The local church, school, club, scouts, pensioners club, choir etc could say all the right things, but it only takes one person to say or do something. That doesn't mean that all those associations/clubs havent done enough, it's just that one person has a problem. It also doesn't mean the whole community have a problem with it.
Title: Re: PSNI recriutment
Post by: Truth hurts on February 04, 2020, 11:36:06 AM
I don't have a problem with anyone with the PSNI but its not a career that i would want my son to take up if you know what i mean. I know that the clubs in Down who voted for the abolition came in for a lot of abuse and would still get jibes about it. Ulster GAA is seen as being very proactice with PSNI but on ground level I do not think this happens. In the south everyone knows a guard from their village, I can honestly say that i do not know any police officer !
Title: Re: PSNI recriutment
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on February 04, 2020, 01:50:55 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on February 04, 2020, 09:49:29 AM
19 years ago the GAA abolished rule 21 with Down GAA at the forefront of this. The PSNI are not having a recruitment drive and what i want to ask posters from the six counties, how would you club react to a senior footballer joining the PSNI? Young cops are still forced to move away which is a shame

Personally it would not worry me, but quiet a few in our club would struggle with it. Put it this way he would be transferring to another club away from Derry City for safety. There have been 3 pipe bomb attacks on catholic officers within a mile of our pitch
Title: Re: PSNI recriutment
Post by: red hander on February 04, 2020, 02:21:16 PM
PSNI still run at a senior level by RUC clique.
Title: Re: PSNI recriutment
Post by: naka on February 04, 2020, 02:47:13 PM
psni/ruc is probably similiar to the issues surrounding the civil war in the south in the decades thereafter.
for what its worth it probably will take another passage of time before the nationalist population are entirely comfortable with the psni.
for myself i wouldn`t want my son or daughter joining up but that`s probably because i am in my 50s and remember the troubles etc  whilst still hankering for the united ireland.
time is a healer so hopefully my children`s children will have a different view.
Title: Re: PSNI recriutment
Post by: Taylor on February 04, 2020, 02:50:50 PM
Quote from: the_daddy on February 04, 2020, 10:41:33 AM
Quote from: Truth hurts on February 04, 2020, 10:16:58 AM
I get the "personally" bit but would GAA clubs really get behind them?

What professions do clubs "get behind"? I've been sitting on the club committee for a good few years and don't think a players occupation has ever been discussed.

+1
Title: Re: PSNI recriutment
Post by: theticklemister on February 04, 2020, 06:42:36 PM
Through advertisements, the GAA have fully endorsed this British police force. Make no bones about it or have any qualms; the GAA are in favour if this.
Title: Re: PSNI recriutment
Post by: Rossfan on February 04, 2020, 07:29:44 PM
What part of Britain are they policing?
Title: Re: PSNI recriutment
Post by: Craigyhill Terror on February 04, 2020, 07:56:57 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on February 04, 2020, 09:49:29 AM
19 years ago the GAA abolished rule 21 with Down GAA at the forefront of this. The PSNI are not having a recruitment drive and what i want to ask posters from the six counties, how would you club react to a senior footballer joining the PSNI? Young cops are still forced to move away which is a shame

I doubt our club could ever live with the shame of having a footballer in its ranks
Title: Re: PSNI recriutment
Post by: armaghniac on February 04, 2020, 09:37:09 PM
Well if there is an election in the 26 counties you might embrace the PSNI

(https://www.irishnews.com/picturesarchive/irishnews/irishnews/2020/02/04/151317218-bce19bf0-5599-4be3-b612-0e882915c429.jpg)
Title: Re: PSNI recriutment
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2020, 11:20:41 PM
Who truly, gives a f**k?
Title: Re: PSNI recriutment
Post by: Eire90 on February 05, 2020, 01:00:07 AM
how many unemployed gaa players is there
Title: Re: PSNI recriutment
Post by: trailer on February 05, 2020, 12:52:43 PM
Great to see all the major political parties behind the PSNI. I obviously see the long game here, to have a fair and just society we need Catholic Nationalist representation in the PSNI. Problem is in a lot of areas of Northern Ireland if you say you're in the PSNI you're likely to be a target and feel very very unsafe. This needs to change.

Title: Re: PSNI recriutment
Post by: general_lee on February 05, 2020, 12:55:11 PM
I think my club would reflect the nationalist population in general, some wouldn't give a hoot, some would be apprehensive whereas some would be 100% opposed. It's kind of like your son coming out as gay, there's nothing wrong with it youd just prefer he didn't
Title: Re: PSNI recriutment
Post by: GetOverTheBar on February 05, 2020, 01:48:33 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on February 05, 2020, 01:00:07 AM
how many unemployed gaa players is there

At County Level?

Can....worms.....
Title: Re: PSNI recriutment
Post by: Applesisapples on March 03, 2020, 11:29:31 AM
It was good to see MoN and GK attend the PSNI recruitment day. Whilst it remains disappointing that some within policing hark back to the bad old days we need to move on. Nationalist communities and GAA clubs need to back local people when they join the PSNI. It does not help however to have the Police Federation badge proudly championing the RUC badge, it does not help when the Chief Constable pose in Cross with boys armed like they are in Iraq and it does not help when recruits are questioned about their partners hailing from South Armagh. PSNI needs to understand that this is stereotypical profiling, does it mean that no one from SA is welcome because they might be contaminated. So PSNI needs to try harder as do we as nationalists. Change from within.
Title: Re: PSNI recriutment
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 03, 2020, 12:14:43 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on March 03, 2020, 11:29:31 AM
It was good to see MoN and GK attend the PSNI recruitment day. Whilst it remains disappointing that some within policing hark back to the bad old days we need to move on. Nationalist communities and GAA clubs need to back local people when they join the PSNI. It does not help however to have the Police Federation badge proudly championing the RUC badge, it does not help when the Chief Constable pose in Cross with boys armed like they are in Iraq and it does not help when recruits are questioned about their partners hailing from South Armagh. PSNI needs to understand that this is stereotypical profiling, does it mean that no one from SA is welcome because they might be contaminated. So PSNI needs to try harder as do we as nationalists. Change from within.

Nothing to do with GAA clubs.
Title: Re: PSNI recriutment
Post by: theticklemister on March 03, 2020, 12:39:12 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on March 03, 2020, 11:29:31 AM
It was good to see MoN and GK attend the PSNI recruitment day. Whilst it remains disappointing that some within policing hark back to the bad old days we need to move on. Nationalist communities and GAA clubs need to back local people when they join the PSNI. It does not help however to have the Police Federation badge proudly championing the RUC badge, it does not help when the Chief Constable pose in Cross with boys armed like they are in Iraq and it does not help when recruits are questioned about their partners hailing from South Armagh. PSNI needs to understand that this is stereotypical profiling, does it mean that no one from SA is welcome because they might be contaminated. So PSNI needs to try harder as do we as nationalists. Change from within.

Who is MoN and GK
Title: Re: PSNI recriutment
Post by: imtommygunn on March 03, 2020, 12:54:08 PM
MIchelle O'Neill and Gerry Kelly?
Title: Re: PSNI recriutment
Post by: theticklemister on March 03, 2020, 01:37:44 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 03, 2020, 12:54:08 PM
MIchelle O'Neill and Gerry Kelly?

It was posted today so I thought it was GAA personnel.
Title: Re: PSNI recriutment
Post by: Applesisapples on March 04, 2020, 12:15:31 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on March 03, 2020, 12:39:12 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on March 03, 2020, 11:29:31 AM
It was good to see MoN and GK attend the PSNI recruitment day. Whilst it remains disappointing that some within policing hark back to the bad old days we need to move on. Nationalist communities and GAA clubs need to back local people when they join the PSNI. It does not help however to have the Police Federation badge proudly championing the RUC badge, it does not help when the Chief Constable pose in Cross with boys armed like they are in Iraq and it does not help when recruits are questioned about their partners hailing from South Armagh. PSNI needs to understand that this is stereotypical profiling, does it mean that no one from SA is welcome because they might be contaminated. So PSNI needs to try harder as do we as nationalists. Change from within.

Who is MoN and GK
YEP